1 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? John middle Kop that me 2 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: three and out podcast, That would be the podcast of 3 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: just about a quarter and a half. I think there's 4 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: seven minutes left in this game, Monday Night Football. I 5 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: wanted to wait till the starters Flacco and I think 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: the story of this game, uh, beside the defensive ends. 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the Fangio defense is gonna be fantastic, but 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: it's gotta be Jimmy Garoppolo and Kyle Shanahan and just 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: that disaster because that was a disaster. Now it's a 10 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: preseason game. I'm not gonna overreact too much, but we'll 11 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: dive into that in a second. It's gotta be probably 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: my favorite show of the year so far. Uh diving, 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: You better believe Mike Mayock Antonio Brown, there's actually been 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: some kind of new news, but it's just it doesn't 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: really matter. Same ship, different pile. It never ends when 16 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: it comes to the Raiders with Antonio Brown, just drip, drip, 17 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: drip drip. It's always something the Giants and their owner 18 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: picking the starting quarterback, like what a what a sneaky 19 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: dysfunctional franchise. The New York Giants are Zeke's agents, and 20 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: Zeke embarrassed themselves today for saying they were disrespected by 21 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: by Jerry Jones comments. I was offended for Jerry Jones 22 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: by Zeke's agents comments. I'm not kidding. They were just 23 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: they were egregious. And then the Middlecoff mail Bag, like always, 24 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: John Middlecoff is my Instagram handle d MS wide open. 25 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: You slide up in those d M s. We do 26 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail Bag for those of you that are new, 27 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: and I just answer your questions here on the podcast. 28 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: So let's start with Monday Night Football and uh, the 29 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: Monday and Football podcast is so bad. I muted my 30 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: TV and I listened to the Niners game on the radio. 31 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: You could not pay me test it tour and you 32 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: know I I get more comments from my buddies in 33 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: the league about how terrible the Monday Night broadcast is 34 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: than just like b s and about players. That's how 35 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: truly terrible this broadcast is. I don't know what they're 36 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: gonna do in upcoming years, but they can't keep rolling 37 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: this thing out. This is money and night football, you know, 38 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: Madden Gruden and now this come on, guys, be better. 39 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: And that's what Jimmy Garoppolo has to be be better. 40 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: And I'm not just blaming Jimmy Garoppolo, like the forty 41 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: Niners have a seven and a half million dollar a 42 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: year offensive coordinator. Because I started, we talked about Kyle 43 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: like he was the oct not even necessarily the head 44 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: coach that there is this season, and I've been a 45 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: big fan of Jimmy and I One thing I've learned, 46 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: probably since in the media more than when I worked 47 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL, is I gotta be careful sometimes. And 48 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: my buddy Lewis Riddick used to give me crap when 49 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: I worked in the league about anointing guys too fast, 50 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: and I have maybe because I see the best and guys, 51 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm a glass half full guy, especially with players. I 52 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: was a big Jimmy Garoppolo guy. I thought his work 53 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: in New England, how high Bill Bill thought about him. 54 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: Then those games those last five years, or excuse me, 55 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: the last five games of two thousands event team. But 56 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: it has not been smooth sailing those three games last year. 57 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: He was rusty. He didn't quite look his smooth And 58 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: because what happens, defenses get to adapt, they get film 59 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: on you. I saw it when I worked in the 60 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: NFL with Michael Vick. Michael Vick was in prison for years, 61 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: was just out of sight, out of mind, and then 62 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: he was the backup and then boom, all of a sudden, 63 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: he becomes the starter, almost wins. The m v P 64 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: paid him a ton of money. Then all year these 65 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: defensive coordinators had film new to to go against him. 66 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: Like whatever business you're in, the longer year competition has 67 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: to figure you out your strengths and weaknesses, the easier 68 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: it is for them to come after you. Right, It's 69 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: it's no different than a player, the more. That's why 70 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: when you're a great player, when you're Von Miller, when 71 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: you're Peyton Manning, when you're Tom Brady, when you're Lebron James, 72 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: I mean Mike Trout, any sport and you have a 73 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: decade worth of film and they still can't beat you. 74 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: That that's great. Now, Clearly in the NFL you have 75 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: to pay. And Jimmy was a unique situation. It's just 76 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: it's it might be an outlier situation. I don't know 77 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: what the forty diners should have done. I I supported 78 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: them paying him. I would have paid him too. They 79 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: really had no choice. They could have franchised him. Well, 80 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: what would they have done this year coming off the 81 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: a c L. Maybe got him on some sort of 82 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: short term deal, but he's still had enough film out there. 83 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: Someone would have paid him big money coming off in 84 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: a c L. So he kind of they were kind 85 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: of stuck between a rock and a hard place. Now, 86 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: the more games Jimmy plays like what we just witnessed. 87 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: Now again it is preseason football and they have been 88 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: playing against the Denver Broncos the last three days in practice. 89 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: Uh So I'm not gonna put too much stock into 90 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: the games because as a as a listener, d M 91 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: me last week and I thought this was the perfect analogy. 92 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: He's like, I viewed preseason games like a pro day. 93 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: They are set up for you to succeed if you 94 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: screw up, That's why it's that's when it's a problem. 95 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: Now this whenever you do joint practice with people, it's 96 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: always a little unique. Bradley Chubb clearly had a feel 97 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: for Joe Staley, who's not as bad of a player 98 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: as he looked. Uh and maybe, and I know Jeff Schwartz, 99 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: former NFL player, big fan of the show. He's tweeted 100 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: about a bunch that Like, the hardest time for a 101 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: player is usually between preseason game one and preseason game two. 102 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: Your legs are heavy now, not with a quarterback, but 103 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: for lineman. And Joe Staley was bad tonight. I mean 104 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: he was getting smoked. Bradley Chubb might be an All 105 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 1: Pro this year. Like that's that's the hard part about tonight. 106 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: Like you know what the Denver Broncos might be, They're 107 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: gonna be a top five defense because you know why, 108 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: that's what Vic Fangio does. He produces top five defenses, 109 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: especially when he has talent. And this might be the 110 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: best pass rushing duo he's ever had. I mean, seriously, 111 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: like a mod and Brooks and Alton Smith were pretty 112 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: damn elite, but Von Miller and Bradley Chubb are better. 113 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: I got news for you, Khalil mack and and Floyd 114 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: pretty good. But I take these two guys. I mean, 115 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb would have twelve sacks as a rookie. But 116 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo looked awful. He looked like a guy that's 117 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: played ten games in his career coming off at a 118 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: c L look rusty. The timing was off. People are 119 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: tweeting at me as happy feet. You don't have happy 120 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: what happy feet are, or when you freak out and 121 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: no one is actually there. Jimmy was getting hit in 122 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: the teeth, which is also a problem. Sometimes your offensive 123 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: linement are gonna get smoked. You can't make poor decisions. 124 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: Jimmy easily could have thrown two pick sixes is night 125 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: or he did throw a pick but he could have 126 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: thrown another pick six. I guess he did not throw 127 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: a pick six. He could have thrown one pick six 128 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: and he threw another pick. He could have easily had 129 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: multiple interceptions like it was awful. He looked lost out there. Now, 130 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: I do think there's a chance the Denver Broncos make 131 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: teams look lost. But I get back. I talked about 132 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: this on my last the podcast on Friday. No excuses 133 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: for Kyle Janhan. He's on year three of a forty 134 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: five million dollar deal. He's making seven and a half 135 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: million dollars. It's time to win. For Jimmy Garoppolo, it's 136 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: time for him to play. Well, it's really that simple. 137 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm so tired of the excuses with the forty niners. Well, 138 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: if this guy could just stay healthy, well, Kyle's picked 139 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: the entire team. He's had three years to overhaul the roster. 140 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: I got news for everyone. John lynch answers the Kyle Shanahan. 141 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan's the boss. I've I've given Kyle excuses the 142 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: last two years because they've had had you know, they 143 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: started O'Brian Hoyer again, Kyle chose him. Then when Jimmy came, 144 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: they won a little bit, and then Jimmy got hurt 145 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: and they sucked again. But they've drafted the top ten 146 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: two years in a row. If that happens again, I 147 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: got news for you. It turns out Kyle is not 148 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: a good head coach. He may be a good offensive coordinator. 149 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: Good head coaches win in this league. They win in 150 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: this league. So at the end of this year, to me, 151 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: if Kyle doesn't have nine or ten wins by year three, 152 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: he's just not a good head coach. It's really gonna 153 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: be that simple. The great part about the NFL the 154 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: formula is pretty easy for determining success and failures with 155 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: head coaches. When you win, you're a good coach. If 156 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: you don't win, you're a loser. Especially the more like 157 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: if you're a one and done. Guy. Maybe you got 158 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: a raw deal, you know, But I'll tell you this 159 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: vance Joseph lasted two years. Van Show is not a 160 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: good coach. He's not a good head coach, and I 161 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't hire him to be my defensive coordinator. Kyle for me, 162 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: the jury is starting to be out. I got the 163 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: juries out on Kyle, and I've been one of his 164 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: biggest supporters. I thought Kyle or I mean Colins saying 165 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: he's built, he's gonna be the next Bill Belichick might 166 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: be a little strong. But the heat's on, the pressure 167 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: is on, like it is time to win. We've been 168 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: annointing this team the last two years. They're gonna make 169 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs. This is their year. Well, they've drafted the 170 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: top ten two years in a row. McGlinchey Bosa Okay, 171 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: mcglinchey's good. Time for Bosta to be good. Well, what's 172 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: happened with Bosa? Well, he's injured. Why is he injured? Well, 173 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: he's always injured. Uh, just time for some of your 174 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: DFOD where's he? Well, he's injured? Two? Well, he's always injured. Well, 175 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: he played last year sixteen games with the Kancie Chiefs. 176 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: All these players that you've acquired over the Dante Pettish 177 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: you drafted. You trade it up to get him in 178 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: the second round. See him makes some plays, Debo, Samuel 179 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurt always got see him all makes some plays. 180 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: That's what with coaches do Belichick, Andy Tomlin? They just 181 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: find players and the players are good and the teams win. 182 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: Why because good coach Pete Carroll just finds ways to win. 183 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: If Kyle is a good coach, it's time for him 184 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: to win. Now. We've put him on a pedestal and 185 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: I'm I'm guilty and I've given him excuse for the 186 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: last couple of years. But he's not the offensive coordinator. 187 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: He's the head coach. Bill O'Brien. You know Bill O'Brien 188 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: does flawed, guy, not good, can't work well with people. 189 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: But his teams win. He makes the playoffs. At the 190 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: end of the day, say what you want about Bill Obrian. 191 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: His teams win, Like, are we just gonna are we 192 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: gonna be? Four years in the best record Kyle's had 193 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: his eight and eight? And again this is not just 194 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: based on tonight. I don't even give a shit about 195 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: the preseason game, but I just know this for Kyle Shanahan, 196 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: who I've been arguing like, is he McVeigh? Is he McVeigh? 197 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: And here's what I know about McVeigh. McVey showed up 198 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: for the Rams. Jared Goff couldn't take a snap from 199 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: under center. Their team was a joke in the debacle. 200 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: He's been there two years and they just keep winning. 201 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: They won the division twice, They've won multiple playoff games, 202 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: they've hosted multiple playoff games. They just win games. So 203 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: like mcveig is a good coach. Matt Naggy shows up 204 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: for the Bears. They've sucked forever, won the division. Doug 205 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: Peterson got to Philly Chip Kelly had ruined the roster. 206 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: Two years later, he wins the super Bowl. You know 207 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: what turns out, Doug Peterson's a good coach. Bruce Arians, 208 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: you know what we're probably doing, Tampa win. You know 209 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: why Bruce Area is a good coach. We don't have 210 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: to guess. I just know Kyle right now. It's just 211 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: a lot of excuses, a lot of I think he's good. 212 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: And I do think Kyle is good. I do. I 213 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: believe in him as a play caller. He's a dynamic 214 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: offensive mine. I believe in Jimmy Garoppolo has a talent 215 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: I do. I think I was the one thing. I 216 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: think he canna be a top five quarterback. It's just 217 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: time to show it now. It's a great part about 218 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: the NFL to bottom line business there. We're at the 219 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: point now with this regime, like it's time for those 220 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: two guys really to prove their worth. Like you know 221 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: what Vick fan Joe is gonna do in Denver. I 222 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: don't know if their offense is gonna be good, their 223 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: defense is gonna kick ass. Like again, I have no 224 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: clue about the offense. Like Kyle, this offense should be 225 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: really good. I'm not again, I'm not trying to overreact 226 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: to the preseason game. But my point I could have 227 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: made the same point in the middle of late May, 228 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: in April, in June. He's built his team. We've annointed 229 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: this guy, and rightfully so. He's proven to be a 230 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: dynamic offensive coach. But coaching as the head coach is 231 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: about more than just calling plays. His players think really 232 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: highly of him, as they should. He's a smart guy. 233 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: They seem to respond to what he does. But it's 234 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: just it's just time to get it done. In San Francisco. Okay, 235 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: let's get into you know, one of my favorite stories ever. 236 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: It's currently going on right now with the Oakland Raiders, 237 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: Mike Mayock, John Gruden, Drew Rosenhouse, Antonio Brown and this 238 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: this is my wheelhouse. I used to for those who 239 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: don't know, I used to have a radio show in 240 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: the Bay Area. And when I was at that radio 241 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: station they had they were partners with the Raiders, and 242 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: I used to do pre and post game uh for 243 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: the Raiders and got to know them on a pretty 244 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: intimate level. And coming from the Eagles, you know, which 245 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: you'd easily be a top three or four organization in 246 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: all of the NFL. It was pretty clear. And like 247 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: most people in Northern California, I don't think many people 248 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: outside this area realize it's like the Yankees and the Mets, 249 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's probably like a twenty to one 250 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: ratio around here, Niners to Raiders. And like people like me, 251 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: who was you know, grow up and born and raised 252 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: in Northern California if you were born in the eighties, 253 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: which I was, two things. The Raiders weren't even here 254 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: into the forty. Niners dynasty was in mid fur so 255 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: as I started coming into my own as a football watcher, 256 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: like early nineties, it was Steve Young, Jerry Rice, Joe Montana, 257 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: Bill Walsh running a lot like the Niners owned this 258 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: area for twenty plus years and one huge and then 259 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: during the Internet Age, the Niners had a stranglehold on 260 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: the area and the Raiders became just the ultimate dysfunctional franchise. Meanwhile, 261 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: the Niners were pretty dysfunctional too until Hardbog got here. 262 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: But there the Raiders are used to chaos. And I 263 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: said one of the funniest lines of the of all 264 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: of Hard Knocks, And as I'm recording this, I'm doing 265 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: it on Monday, so only two episodes were out was 266 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: the first episode when John Madden was talking about the 267 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: Seven Man Sled and he said that he used the 268 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: seven Man Sled to cure the hangover because the Raiders 269 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: team was full of dudes that partied probably in the 270 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: mid seventies. The group of Raiders are arguably the hardest 271 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: partiers we've ever seen. That also one they'd be right, 272 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: they'd be right there with the eighties, six mets, drugs, alcohol, 273 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: you name it, they did it. The Snake Freddie Blitnikoff 274 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: including the coach. I mean, I don't think Madden was 275 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: maybe as normal as we think about him back then. 276 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: The Raiders are dysfunctioned. That's all they know. And some people, 277 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: like when I grew up, I knew people in my life, 278 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: either parents or grandparents that were very successful, made a 279 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: lot of money, and they were functioning alcoholics. Most people 280 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: I've known in my life, like my experience, the alcoholics 281 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: I've known have been functioning alcoholics and have have done 282 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: really well in life. So I've never really been around 283 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: a nonfunctioning alcoholic. And I've heard stories and I'm sure 284 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: many people listening. It ruins families. I mean I I 285 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: have like second and third hand experiences with it, but 286 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: never like my close friends or my family, the people 287 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: in my life that were I would quote unquote alcoholics 288 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: functioned at a really high level. It did not mess 289 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: with their life at all that that I got to see. Obviously, 290 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: it ruins a lot of lives, and I think that's 291 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: a good example. Like some organizations, like in Philadelphia we 292 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: handled chaos pretty well obviously, the Steelers and the and 293 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: the Patriots that I would consider them like, because in 294 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: the NFL there is chaos, so there are either the 295 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: functioning alcoholics and then the people that can't handle it. 296 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: And I know this for a fact that of all 297 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: the places Antonio Brown could have gone, the Raiders and 298 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: their infrastructure, even with Mayok and Gruden down here, are 299 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: not equipped to handle a guy like this. It's where 300 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: the dysfunctional go to rot and go to die and 301 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: go to just be a disaster, because I've seen it firsthand. 302 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: With the organization. They're there for an NFL organization, They're 303 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: very very small time now Gruden and Mayock aren't. But 304 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: the ethos of the organization, I mean Mark Davis. Listen, 305 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: I like Mark Davis. I know people around the Bay 306 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: Area think that I hate Mark Davis. I have never 307 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: had a bad interaction with Mark Davis. He used to 308 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: get mad when I would talk they should hire Hardball, 309 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: even though the irony was they ended up interviewing Hardball. 310 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: But when w Sloman person he was great. Now some 311 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: of their other personnel, not not football people, but non 312 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: football people that they are some of, and I'm trying 313 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: to say this nicely, some of the biggest clowns I've 314 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: ever been around. I mean, just people that I can't 315 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: believe they were in the position, the power they were 316 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: in and their biggest problem haven't had in the front 317 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: row seat with the with the Eagles. And I've got 318 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: to know a lot of people with the Niners over 319 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: the years, is like they're big picture thinkers, especially the 320 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: business people, because if you do it right in the NFL, 321 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: you print cash. The people with the Raiders could never 322 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: figure it out. And then obviously the football people for 323 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: a long period of time were terrible. Now finally they 324 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: got two guys that are clearly pretty high level individuals. 325 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: And I think you saw it with Jon Gruden is. 326 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: John Gruden is like the modern day version Al Davis. 327 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: He does not care about character. I mean he says 328 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: he does, and once he has the team he wants it, 329 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: but for the most part, he doesn't care. That's why 330 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is on the Raiders. They got him for 331 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: a third round pick for a reason. No other team 332 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: wanted him, and no or no other team was willing 333 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: to part with a pick and give him money. The 334 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: Raiders did both. Don't get it. He didn't come to 335 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: the Raiders because they're the Raiders, or the Silver and 336 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: Black or any of that. As Colins says, the nostalgic bs. 337 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: He came to the Raiders for thirty million dollars. It's 338 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: that simple, end of story. Now here's the thing, Gruden 339 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: coach anybody, he doesn't care. Clearly, they got Richie incognito, 340 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: they got Bontest Burfett, and they acquired Antonio Brown, so 341 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: independing on who you talk to, they got rid of 342 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: Khalil Mac owner doesn't have enough cash. Really that simple. 343 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: And when to pay a guy ninety million dollars, he 344 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: doesn't have ninety million dollars in the bank when they're 345 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: trying to move. They're already so pressed in terms of 346 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: loans and stuff. It was the right financial move they 347 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: thought for the franchise. And part of the reason Gruden, 348 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: I think costs ten years a hundred million dollars. There's 349 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: a Raider tax there. Your organization is too big, just 350 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: too crazy, too dysfunctional to not pay me a premium 351 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: when I'm John Gruden. So John Gruden benham Over took 352 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: every penny, and as he should. I'm a capitalist, like 353 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: take as much moneys you can get. But if that 354 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: was the Steelers or the Eagles or the Patriots, does 355 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: it cost have a hundred billion dollars again, John Gruden, 356 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: probably not. But here's the thing with Mike Mayock, and 357 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: I've met him a couple of times. I know people 358 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: that when I worked with in Philly are really tight 359 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: with him. He's I've sleep from that area. A lot 360 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: of people in the league are very close with Mike, 361 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: just as a fan of Mike Mayock. And I would 362 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: imagine a lot of people listening to this podcast. If 363 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: you've watched the NFL Draft coverage, you watched NFL Network, 364 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: assuming you do that because it's an NFL podcast, you 365 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: have a pretty good idea what Mike mack likes and 366 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: what he doesn't like. And I'd say the number one 367 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: thing he despises is fluff, just a bunch of bs 368 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: that comes a lot of times with professional athletes. It's 369 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: why he loves like your high character as kickers. It's 370 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: why he was all in on clil Mac. Remember, and 371 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: there are things about Clowney that he didn't love. I 372 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: promise you this, and I don't know this for a fact, 373 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: but I'm confident about it that Mike Mayock did not 374 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: want Antonio Brown on his team. But Mike Mayock, despite 375 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: being the general manager, is not in control of the roster. 376 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: The hundred million dollar man is, so he was vetoed 377 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: on that. Well, when Mike Mayock this would have been 378 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: on Sunday, walked over the reporters mid practice and went 379 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: on his thirty nine second little rant I said, you 380 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: know what, this is an old school guy whose philosophical 381 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: beliefs kind of come from Belichick, who's just had enough. 382 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: This guy is not at practice after we gave him 383 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: a thirty million dollar bonus because of a helmet, and 384 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: it'd be one thing if well half the league's complaining 385 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: about it. He's the only human that can't figure out 386 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: the helmet. But of course this happened with the Raiders, 387 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: because of course Antonio Brown would come to the Raiders, 388 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: would burn off his feet and would refuse to put 389 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: on a helmet that literally every other player in the 390 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: league ninety times thirty one plus eighty nine on the 391 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: Raiders have figured out a way to wear the new 392 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: style helmets that are being worn for the safety of 393 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: these players and their own individual brains. But Antonio Brown, 394 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, not only refuses to wear it, he 395 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: will just leave and the Raiders, unlike the majority of teams, 396 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: now still go to a destination for training camp. The 397 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: way it works NAPA. If you haven't been there Wine Country. Obviously, 398 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: there's this Marriott, and behind the Marriott is like this 399 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: junior high school. But between in the junior high school 400 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: and the Marriott, they were like three or four fields 401 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: so you can run practice. It's really cool. So the 402 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: Marriott backs right up to these fields and you can 403 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: build the weight room on the side, and then you 404 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: got all the practice fields and there's even enough space 405 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: to put stay it so you can have fans. It's 406 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: really cool. It's badass. Jerry Jones has said he's looked 407 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: into it. I'm sure the forty Niners are looking into it. 408 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: There will be an NFL team if the Raiders leave 409 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: that spot in the next year or two, the go 410 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: to NAPA. I promise you that it's badass. So Antonio Brown, 411 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: who lives in Florida, I think he's rent in the 412 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: house I've heard down in the South Bay, like the 413 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: pala Alto area where Stanford is. If he's gonna leave 414 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: the hotel, where the hell is he going? Like, is 415 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: he going to the mall? Is going to rent a house? 416 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: I don't understand where he's going now as of recording 417 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: of this, Mortenson reported that he did show up to 418 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: the team meeting today. But this is a disaster. I mean, 419 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: Mike Mayock had to basically give their best player and 420 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: don't get it twisted. He's the best player on the 421 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: Raiders by a country mile and ultimatum you're or enter, 422 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: you're out, and I they're gonna trade him. Be hard 423 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: to trade him. You probably have to bite the bullet 424 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: and take like a six or seven. You're not gonna 425 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: cut him because financially it doesn't make sense. This is 426 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: the problem. This is why Mike Mayock would fundamentally be 427 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 1: opposed to this type player because he's so good the 428 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: moment you acquire that guy and then you then you 429 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: financially empower him. He's got you by the balls. So 430 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: they're like, Mike Mayock can act like a tough guy, 431 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: and I think he is, and I think yesterday was 432 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 1: piste off and it was awesome. I mean it was sweet, 433 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: but there's only so much he can do. Like they 434 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: need Antonio Brown, they need him for a week one. 435 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: They're kind of screwed. And this is why I said 436 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: it didn't make any sense. Once you get rid of 437 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: clear back, and you get rid of Mark Cooper and 438 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: you get all these draftnicks. I thought they were starting 439 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: over at scratch. But the problem is John Gruden changed 440 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: his mind every ten minutes. He has unlimited amounts of power, 441 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: he has all this money, He's unfire able. No one 442 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: can tell him anything, mainly because no one in the 443 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: building knows what the hell they're doing beside Gruden and 444 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: Mayock and some of Gruden's coaches. So it's just it's 445 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: it's a ship show. That that's really what it is. 446 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: And the sad thing is and I feel, and I 447 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: know a lot of older Raider fans like this still 448 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: hold on to like the seventies and the early eighties 449 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: eighties with Stabler and Tom Flores and Jim Plunkett and 450 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: Fred Blitt and a Cough and Howie Long. I mean, 451 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: they have some of the most iconic players ever. The 452 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: old Room in what they call like where their conference 453 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: room is, it is called the Hall of Fame room 454 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: because Al Davis, I think, has introduced the most amount 455 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: of people inside the Hall of Fame in the history 456 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: of the NFL. They are so far away from that 457 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen, it's not even funny. And I 458 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: said it all along that this team the Bay Area 459 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: is on one of the great twenty year stretches in 460 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: financial history. There is more goddamn money around this place. 461 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: I need to get my hands on more. But even 462 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: a guy like me that can start from scratch multiple 463 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: times and make a lot of money, it's pretty easy. 464 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: There's a lot of cash flowing around here. Jed York 465 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: is swimming in it is absolutely swimming in cash. And 466 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: the Raiders, now, I'll defend them a little bit. The 467 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: politicians in Oakland probably one of the more messed up 468 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: little communities in America, but still they have they have 469 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,719 Speaker 1: a famous brand. It's the NFL. I mean, the Warriors 470 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: are crushing it, the Giants are crushing it, the Niners 471 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: are crushing it, win or loose. They printing money. The 472 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: Riders have never been able to turn a profit, and 473 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: they're just gonna move and figure out how to turn 474 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: a profit. So why I always said I I listen. 475 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: I think the league is in a very very tough 476 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: spot allowing them to go. Obviously they had to allow 477 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: them go when the money was free, but the infrastructure 478 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: of non football people's not there. And then even with 479 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: the football people. Now John Gruden, who you thought would 480 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: come back, kind of guns blaze and can't even handle 481 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: his own players. So it's just this organization. It's just 482 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: always something with them, drip drip, drip drip, and and 483 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: Raider fans get so offended, especially in this area because 484 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: they're kind of the redheaded step child of the other team. 485 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: It's they're always compared to the Niners. The Niners always 486 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: get more media coverage. Even the nine are the craziest 487 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,239 Speaker 1: things that come out of there are never quite as 488 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: crazy as stuff that umes from the Raiders. And it 489 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: never ends, it never ends. And it's like Drew Rosenhouse, 490 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: Drew Rosenhouse is made, as someone tweeted at me today, 491 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: he could sell sand to the King of Egypt. He 492 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: could sell ice to an Eskimo. Drew Rosenhouse was born 493 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: for chaos. Terrell Owens, Tyreek Kill, Antonio Brown. I watched 494 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: him talking, not even sweating. It's just normal to him. 495 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: He thrives in that environment. Honestly, I think he likes 496 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: it when his players are kind of crazy, made for it, 497 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: like it just doesn't even FaZe him. Some agents want 498 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: no part of guys like that. I think Drew Rosenhouse. 499 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: Maybe it keeps him interesting, maybe it keeps him locked in. 500 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, but he clearly likes a player kind 501 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: of on edge. He doesn't mind it, and when they 502 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: do kind of cross the ledge, he's right there with him. 503 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: He's the opposite of the Raiders, Like when chaos hits them, 504 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: they're double screwed because they're never good enough and second 505 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: of all, they're never equipped to handle it. Rosenhouse like 506 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: doesn't even flinch. It's like he's like a everyone you know, 507 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: when there's like a fire or something and the first 508 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: respondals all run in and everyone's running out, it's like Rosenhouse. 509 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: Most organizations run away from craziness. Rosenhouse runs at it. 510 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: And I've always been entertained by Rosenhouse. His brand is 511 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: pretty special to me. His brand is kind of chaos. Obviously, 512 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: the most you know, memorable moment was Terrell Owens in 513 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: the in the driveway, But today kind of making the 514 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: television rounds, this is Drew Rosenhouse. He He's made for this. 515 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: The Raiders are not, and it's already a complete disaster. 516 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: And it's where I will always defend Derek Carr if 517 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: you think that you could have put Peyton Manning or 518 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: Tom Brady or John Elway in this organization, they would 519 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: have succeeded. You're out of your mind. They would have failed. 520 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: This organization destroys people's careers, and the guys are lucky 521 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: enough to get away from it and then still have success. 522 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: Even some of Al Davis is crazy quote unquote, Mrs 523 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: Darius Hayward Bay still playing the league. Mike Mitchell went 524 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: on to have a long career like once the guy 525 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: Khalil act. You know, he was doing well and then 526 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: even he had to get away and became He's gonna 527 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: become an all time He's gonna become a Hall of 528 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: Famer with the Bears. This organism Amori boom. It's crazy, crazy, 529 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: and in Oakland goes to Dallas kills it. This organization 530 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: brings players down and it's sad, and it always starts 531 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: at the top with ownership. But the thing about you 532 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: Mark Davis is he's not like some micro manager. He 533 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: is so dependent on his little cronies around him. The 534 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: non football people did they create this, and it's just 535 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: a never ending cycle. So when the Raiders moved to 536 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: Las Vegas, nothing is going to change. They're just gonna 537 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: owe an astronomical amount of money on the stadium, which 538 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: they've never been able to make money. And it makes 539 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: me nervous. Like if I was Roger Goodell, I'd be like, 540 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: oh my god, what did we get ourselves into? And 541 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: as long as Mark Davis alive, he's gonna own this team. 542 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: So I mean, one day the ownership will change and 543 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: will probably the healthiest thing to ever happen to the franchise. 544 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: But this is and I think it's crazy. At the 545 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: end of the day, Mike Mayock all these chances over 546 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: the year is to come back to the league. And 547 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: I get when you're the Raiders nostalgia. It's really cool 548 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: for football fan and clearly Mas a football fan. But 549 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: he he might have hitch his wagon like many players 550 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: this this this might be a short lived career for 551 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: him with the Oakland Raiders. Okay, let's dive into the 552 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: New York Giants and their ownership. I think if you 553 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: read about any successful business, whether it's football, whether it's finance, 554 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: whether it's I don't know, NBA, any walk of life, medical, sales, farming, operation, 555 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: you name it. The guy that runs the organization, whether 556 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: he's the owner, whether he's a CEO, whatever he does, 557 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: whether he's a head coach. You can't micro manage everything. 558 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: It's impossible. As your business grows, there's just too much 559 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: going on. You will waste time, you will be less 560 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: efficient if you would tempt to get into everyone's business. 561 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 1: Now you can keep tabs on things, but there are 562 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: certain things you should focus on more than you did 563 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: before you own the company, right or before you became 564 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: CEO of the company or whatever. You just there's only 565 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: so much you can do. Just like what you do 566 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: as a quarterback coach, you're gonna do different stuff when 567 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: you're the head coach or even the coordinator. Well, when 568 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: you own a football team, you especially in two thousand nineteen, 569 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: you're paying a head coach anywhere between five and ten 570 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: million dollars, and you're paying a GM a couple of 571 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: million bucks. Depending on who you are, that number changes, 572 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: but you are paying them a lot of money to 573 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: decide who plays and who doesn't play. And right now, 574 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: the New York Giants might have the biggest micro manager 575 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: owner in the league. And I was told this because 576 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: I was, like, I bet two years ago when when 577 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, you know, spurned Indianapolis and Matt Patricia was 578 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: kind of interviewing around. I was told there's no way 579 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: he'll go to the New York Giants from someone that knows. 580 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: And I said why, and they said because as Belichick's 581 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: never been comfortable with their ownership. He thinks they dabbled 582 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: too much. And Mara's brother, I think his name is 583 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: Chris Mara, is also in the front office. He's like 584 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 1: basically the assistant GM, like he runs personnel stuff. So 585 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: they are they're not. They're a little closer in terms 586 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: of raiders than nostalgia and holding on now. They're much 587 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: much higher level. They've obviously won championships with Tom Coughlin, 588 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: and I don't think they did it with Tom Coughlin. 589 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: You know, people weren't downing Tom coflin what to do, 590 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: but for the most part with Macadoo and then clearly 591 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: right now with Pat Shermer, John Mara is deciding who 592 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: should be the starting quarterback. Here is the quote from 593 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: Pat Shermer. Because one thing is pretty clear and I 594 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: told everyone this, which is as crazy as Dave Gentleman's 595 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: pick of Daniel Jones wasn't six. The crazy part was 596 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: not the player. Because I've said this on this podcast 597 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 1: multiple times. I had friends in the se see they 598 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: all had first round grades on the guy. Now, they 599 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: did not think it was a top ten pick. But 600 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,239 Speaker 1: if you want to take him at seventeen, no one 601 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: was gonna argue with you. Pretty clear he would have 602 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: been there at seventeen. I am very confident of that. 603 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: They could have taken Daniel Jones and seventeen. They could 604 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: have drafted Josh Allen at six. But whatever, we've moved 605 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: past that. But when when Daniel Jones proves that I 606 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: got news for He's probably better than Eli Manning. Right now, 607 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,479 Speaker 1: you just play him because Eli Manning, you last won 608 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl in two thousand and eleven. It's two 609 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. Stop holding onto the past. The past is over. 610 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: I get piste off around these parts with the San 611 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: Francisco Giants. They do the same thing, like talk about 612 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: we're winning world championship in two thousand ten or two 613 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: thousand and twelve, two fourteen. Now you win three. It's like, guys, 614 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: it's two thousand nineteen, and finally this year people started 615 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: moving on. I hate holding onto the past when it 616 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: limits you from moving forward. Now, if you can hold 617 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: onto the past and move forward, like the Patriots are 618 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: good at that, the Warriors are getting good at that. 619 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: Certain teams are good at that, most teams are not. 620 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: Here's what Schremer said after the game regarding a quote 621 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: unquote quarterback controversy. John Mara owns the team. Right, We're 622 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: on the same page. There really is not much more 623 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: to say. I think I've been saying it all along. 624 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: I just don't get a sense once in a while 625 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: that when I answer the questions, none of you believe me. Well, 626 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: you heard it from the owner. So basically, bat Tremer's saying, 627 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: whether I'm saying it or not, the owner said it, 628 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: Eli is going to start, and I just take a 629 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: step back. Whired God's Green Earth? Is John Mark commenting 630 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: on Eli Manning being the starter? Or who if Daniel 631 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: Jones is gonna be the starter? You hired Pat Shermer. 632 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, I think Pat Shermer's the 633 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: worst head coach in the NFL. I believe that to 634 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: my core. That's just an opinion I have. I might 635 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: be wrong. I'm pretty sure I'm closer to being right 636 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: though than wrong, And I think Gettelman is an egomaniac 637 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: guy in his late sixties is living in a little 638 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: bit in the past. I would never have hired him 639 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: with a ten foot poll. But even if they had 640 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: hired Bill Belichick or Ron Wolf or you know whoever, 641 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: they could have Jim Harbaugh, it would have been a 642 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: problem because John Mara can't keep his fingers off this 643 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: quarterback situation. If Eli Manning beats Daniel Jones out in 644 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: training camp, he should be the starter. If Daniel Jones 645 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: you feel like, is better than Eli Manning, this is 646 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen not to you should start him because 647 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: this situation. Also, Dave Gettleman made the comparison to we 648 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: want to do it like the Chiefs did. Do you 649 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: know what the Chiefs did? They sat Patrick Mahomes because 650 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: that year I'm pretty sure they won the division and 651 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: Alex Smith had his best year of his career. Eli 652 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: Manning is coming off a pretty down year and he's 653 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: just he's got very good player anymore. He can't move 654 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: behind an offensive line that's average at best. Well, Dania 655 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: Jones a much better athlete, and it's pretty clear he's 656 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: not bad player. He's really accurate. He's probably got a 657 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: better r at this point than Eli Manning. See if 658 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: if it's even close, why delay the inevitable? This is 659 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: not a twenty year old, wasn't the a fifth year 660 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: senior like this is a pretty mature individual. He's not 661 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: coming from community college. He's coming from Duke, you know, 662 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: probably a top seven or eight academic institution in America. 663 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: And if he's capable of handling it, put about there. Now, 664 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: if Eli Manning beats him out in training camp, which 665 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: I'd be hard pressed to think he could, maybe he 666 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: can just because you kind of rig it toward him. Okay, 667 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: but why does the owner have anything to do with this? 668 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: You know where the owner has nothing to do with anything. 669 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: All the good teams, every team in America. Now, maybe 670 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: Robert Kraft got involved with Jimmy Garoppolo, but that was 671 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna change Tom brady status that season. He 672 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: would never tell Bill Belichick who to start. Now, he 673 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: may say, Bill, you can't cut Tom Brady. But the 674 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: way that season played out, Tom Brady he ended up 675 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: winning the Super Bowl. They wouldn't have been able to 676 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: move on from as a super Bowl champ anyway, you 677 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: can't dictate who's starting and who's not starting. As an owner, 678 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: what's important paying your coach all this money, especially in 679 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: football where it is a little more complicated, especially with 680 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: with quarterback, where it's clear you can't win with Eli 681 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: Manning anymore. You invested a very, very high pick, Like 682 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 1: in a perfect world. You know what, the Chiefs would 683 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: tell you, we were lucky we had Alex Smith and 684 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 1: it may be the best thing to ever happened for Mahomes, 685 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: and it probably did help, but they did lose out 686 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,959 Speaker 1: on a year of Mahomes. Is there a chance even 687 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: as a rookie and I don't know this, you'd have 688 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: to ask coach reader Beach and even deep down they 689 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: don't quite know because they didn't see it. Could they 690 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: have been better that Mahomes the first year? Seriously? And 691 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: you also, maybe maybe he wins, maybe wins the MVP 692 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: as a rookie. I mean it's not probably likely, but 693 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: maybe he throws thirty five touchdowns. Maybe instead of losing 694 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: Tennessee in the first round, they win a couple games. 695 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: Now it's hard to maybe they lose a couple more 696 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: games in the regular season. Who knows, But like, the 697 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 1: one problem with the way they did it with Mahomes 698 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: sitting in that year was you do kind of waste 699 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: the year of him on a cheap contract. Now they 700 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: knew it going in, but then once they got their 701 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: hands on them, they realized, Holy hell, this guy is 702 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: really good, but there's nothing they could do. Part of 703 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: having what's so the strength of having a young quarterback 704 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: is when you draft him in the first round, you 705 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: have him for four years on a cheap contract, a 706 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: really cheap contract relative to what you pay the guys, right, 707 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: So you wasting a year and they've even talked about 708 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: wasting a two year. That's the whole you know, kind 709 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: of Billy being. Advantage of drafting a first round quarterback 710 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: is you can load up other parts of your team, 711 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: and the Chiefs immediately went into that mode last year 712 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: with Sammy Watkins trading for Frank Clark going to get 713 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: the honey Badger. But their timeline, because he didn't start 714 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 1: that first year, is kind of a three year window 715 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: before Mahome starts making huge. So if if you did 716 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: hit on Daniel Jones, which I would imagine if Pat 717 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: Shermer or Dave Gettleman was saying here, we're gonna make 718 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: you all look stupid because we think we hit on them. 719 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: And I it just going off two preseason games. I'll 720 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: be the first to say it looks awesome. And maybe 721 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: they do hit on him, but if you do hit 722 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 1: on him, play him now. None of your fans like, 723 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 1: stop holding on to two thousand and eleven. It's two 724 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, John Mara, get out of the personnel meeting. 725 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: Let them tell you what they're going to do. That's 726 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: why you hired these people. If they think Daniel Jones 727 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: is better, he should play now. Pat Shermer is just 728 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: the ultimate, you know, team company man. But that's embarrassing. 729 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: Like that quote to me, jumped out saying the Giants 730 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: might be one of the sneaky biggest debacles in the NFL, 731 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: just the way their franchises ran. Now they're one of 732 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: the more profitable ones. They have one of the biggest 733 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: fan bases because of where they play. But don't let 734 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: that get twisted. They got major issues. Okay, let's die 735 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: been to the Cowboys, who were basically the profitable good 736 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 1: version of what the Raiders kind of wish. They were 737 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: pretty dysfunctional. But again, like a lot of teams in 738 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: the NFL they can handle this function. And Zeke, I 739 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: want to play you this bit or this sound. It's 740 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: not a bit. I mean Jerry Jones is actually talking 741 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: about when he's asked about Paulard, the young running back 742 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 1: who's had a good preseason, looks pretty talented. Actually here 743 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: here's Jerry Jones netated with zl Okay. So Jerry, I 744 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: don't think he quite knew the camera was on him 745 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,919 Speaker 1: at first, but it was really pretty harmless, like when 746 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: you listen to that that everyone's laughing. The question was, 747 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: do you think Pollard is your best negotiating ploy? And 748 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: he dropped Zeke, Who he's kidding again? How could it 749 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 1: be that emotional? Zeke? He drafted you fourth overall. Every 750 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: time you get in trouble, he's got your back. So 751 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: then his agent comes out and tells more reports some 752 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: guy named Rocky Arnas Sasio. I've I've never heard of 753 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: this guy now, granted, like one of the reasons I 754 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: can let it rip where I think a lot of 755 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: people in the media don't. I'm not friends that many agents, 756 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: they don't dictate my thoughts. I pissed the friends that 757 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: I do have I probably piss them off sometimes, you know, 758 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 1: I'm buddies. The Cliff Kingsbury's agent came on my show, 759 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: I don't know six months ago I blasted Cliff Kingsbury 760 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: like we have in in my relationships with you know, 761 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: people in the league. They might get mad at some 762 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: things I say. I mean, that's just part of the 763 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: reason I am who I am. You know, I I 764 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: don't get I don't buddy buddy with agents because I 765 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: will not support their client if I think they're in 766 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: the wrong or were they play back, I'm not. I 767 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: can't show for you that way. Here's what Ezekiel Elliott, 768 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott was not amused with Saturday. Zeke you Zeke 769 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: who quit from Jerry Jones and thought it was disrespectful. 770 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: According to Elliot's agent, I didn't think it was funny, 771 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: and neither did Zeke. We actually thought it was disrespectful. 772 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: What did you guys think when you ran into the 773 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: law for the fifteen times as being in the league 774 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: for three years? What do you think when you got 775 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: spending for six games and Jerry Jones went to war 776 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 1: let me repeat, went to war with Roger goodell over 777 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: you what do you think when when Jerry Jones, when 778 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: everyone told him he was an idiot, you should not 779 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: draft a running back fourth overall, you should take Jalen 780 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: Ramsey stood up and turned in the Zeke card. What 781 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 1: do you think about Jerry Jones supporting you across every line? Clearly, 782 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: if you watched the video, Jerry's laughing, it's not that funny. 783 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: It's not disrespectful. He's made you countless offers. You've put 784 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: yourself in this situation. I'd argue that Zekiel Elliott and 785 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: his agent have been disrespectful to Jerry Jones. You're offten 786 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: Cobb when he's paid you a premium. He supported you 787 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: through just, let's frankly, being an idiot, being an idiot, 788 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: not being able to do the right things, and you 789 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: can't figure it out, and you get all sensitive, become 790 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: a sensitive Sally, become like Kevin Durant over a pretty 791 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: innocuous comment which he's clearly laughing and joking about, like 792 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 1: this is why I can't deal with agents, Like is 793 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: he serious in that quote? We felt disrespected? Did you 794 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: feel disrespected when he's offered you like forty five million 795 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: dollars and you keep turning it down? Like what are 796 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,760 Speaker 1: you guys talking about? And this type stuff, which maybe 797 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: I'm more worn out of it now than ever because 798 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 1: I follow the NBA so closely and having Kevin Durant 799 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: and just the stupid NBA stories that I've had to 800 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: deal with in my backyard for the last couple of years. 801 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: This this and Antonio Brown, it feels very NBA ish, Like, hey, guys, 802 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 1: there is no disrespect. They've paid you like thirty million 803 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 1: dollars through your first four years to play running back. 804 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: Now you're really good player, but you've been in troubled NonStop, 805 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: and Jerry Jones is still trying to pay you and 806 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: you consistently turned down his offers. So like this is 807 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: a type story. Honestly kind of pisses me off because 808 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: one there if they're either saying that because they're trying 809 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: to get public, I don't know like support on their side. 810 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: Most humans with common sense look at you like you're 811 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 1: an idiot too. Do they really believe that? Like? Are 812 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: they honestly disrespected by that? And I never wanted to 813 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: tell someone when they should be or shouldn't be mad 814 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: or triggered or whatever. We're all our own person. You 815 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 1: can get mad at whatever you want. It might maybe 816 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: it's a character flaw of me. I don't. I'm not 817 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: offended by much. I really am not, And maybe that 818 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,399 Speaker 1: helps me live my life on social media a lot 819 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: easier because I just now I'm just unaffected by anything 820 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: I see. I was offended by this. If I was 821 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: a Cowboy fan, I'd be a little piste off, like 822 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: what what's because you know what, Jerry Jones is not 823 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: running he's not running a clown show. He's trying to 824 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: win a super Bowl. He's made offers all these guys. 825 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. Hey, Zeke, Well you're off 826 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: in Cabo Claim and you're down to five drinking my ties, 827 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: eating card Asada street tacos, which I wouldn't blame you, uh, 828 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: and getting your lift on and running on the beach. 829 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 1: Dak Amari in the other eighty nine guys are here working. 830 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: We're building the foundation to try to win. You know, 831 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: last year we want a playoff game. This year we 832 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: want to win two or three. So if you were 833 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: they're not paid yet, they're having no issues. We're not 834 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: having you know, I guess a little bit with Dak 835 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: pissing contest through the media, and maybe that's a character 836 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,760 Speaker 1: flaw a little bit of Jerry that when you always 837 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 1: talk to the media, obviously they're gonna ask you about 838 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: the main stuff. And Jerry's got a big personality. You know, 839 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: I'd be a terrible NFL owner. I just wouldn't talk 840 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: to the media because if I did, I just b 841 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: s and I would say ship like that. I think 842 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: most of us would. So you're probably best off just 843 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: never saying anything and just avoiding the cameras. But Jerry 844 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: likes it, and Jerry's team you can do whatever he wants, 845 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: but to be if they're truly offended by that comment, 846 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 1: we just learned Zeke's agent or two of the two 847 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,320 Speaker 1: the most easily triggered people we have in America. Okay, 848 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: let's get into the middle. Cup mail back. It's where 849 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,800 Speaker 1: I answer your questions from Instagram into my d M s, 850 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 1: which a lot of you guys have slid into and uh, 851 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it. So we got a cup some 852 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: old ones here. Start with I can't even read this 853 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 1: guy's name, Hey, John, can you explain why people hate 854 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 1: Goodell so much? I personally think he's a decent commissioner 855 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: and booing him on Draft night makes no sense unless 856 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: I'm missing something, you know. I think the most basic 857 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,479 Speaker 1: element of this is people hate power and people hate 858 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: successful people. And the media really went after him. I mean, 859 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,919 Speaker 1: the Ray Rice thing was a debacle. There's no way 860 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: around it. If he saw the video, and it'd be 861 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: it would be hard pressed to think he didn't see 862 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 1: the video. I also think the media looks at the 863 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: NFL like the conservative league, unlike the NBA that they 864 00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: view as the liberal league. I really believe this. In 865 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: the media, we all know of them are extreme left wingers, 866 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: and they just know the Goodell's the guy leading the charge, 867 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: even though he's technically not. He works for the owners, 868 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: so they go after him. Uh And it was you 869 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: easy to use him as a symbol of their hate, 870 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 1: you know. And I also think that Goodell, you know, 871 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: the one thing that always bothers me about the media 872 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 1: when they go after the the NFL. I say this 873 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: all the time. The NFL is not the police. If 874 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: a guy doesn't get arrested or he's let off. The 875 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 1: NFL is a private sector business. They have two goals, 876 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 1: make money and try to win games. The individual franchise, 877 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: but Roger has one, and that's print cash for everybody. 878 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: So like everyone is so caught up and thinking he's 879 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: he's not an FBI investigator here, that's not his job, 880 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 1: that's not the role of his of his business, of 881 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: what he's been paid forty five million to do. And 882 00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: someone tweeted out, I guess CBS merged with some company 883 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: me and they listed like a list of some of 884 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 1: these CEOs from like Robert, not Robert, but who's the 885 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: CEO of Bob Iger? And what less moon Vez used 886 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 1: to make at CBS. I mean, the CEOs of these 887 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: major companies are making fifty to a d million dollars 888 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,919 Speaker 1: a year, Like that's what CEOs make. So I also 889 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,919 Speaker 1: think people are jealous that Roger makes so much money. Yeah, 890 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: he runs a twelve billion dollar business. They pay him 891 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: forty five million dollars. Welcome to the private sector. Maybe 892 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: they don't teach that at Syracuse in the journalism school. 893 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of it is is with 894 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 1: the media and their hatred toward hatred is the wrong 895 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 1: word probably, but you know, capitalism sometimes at the highest 896 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: level bothers them and they freak. Now, Roger did some 897 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: things that like he should have been criticized for the 898 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 1: Ray Rice stuff. But you know, for the most part, 899 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: the league has been a booming success under his watch. 900 00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 1: I don't always agree with everything he does. Uh, but 901 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: he has the power. Why because the players gave it 902 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: to him. You know, at the end of the day, 903 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: the players gave it to him. They decided that he 904 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 1: should have the power the the NFL Union, which is 905 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: all the players. That happened, So I'm with you, Like 906 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 1: I'll tell you he's not a good commissioner, Adam Silver. 907 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: He does nothing under his watch, Like his his claim 908 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: to fame was kicking Donald Sterling out of the league. Like, 909 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 1: oh wait to get him there? Adam, you mean just 910 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 1: a known slum lord racist who's worked in the league 911 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,320 Speaker 1: for thirty five years. That's your crowning achievement. Because the 912 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: ratings are plumbing on your watch. The consumers constantly getting 913 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 1: screwed when they go to these games and the players 914 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 1: are sitting. You would never hear the media speak a 915 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: terse word about Adam Silver. I'll promise you, I'll tell 916 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: you he was a good commissioner. David Stern. Media didn't 917 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: always love David Stern. You know, if the commissioner doesn't 918 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 1: like you in a pro sports league. Probably means your 919 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 1: sports league is doing well, unless you're bud Sea League 920 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: and then you're just a clown. What is the Jets 921 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: biggest need? Corner, defensive end, offensive tackle, or wide receiver? 922 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,879 Speaker 1: What it makes sense for them to offer a fourth 923 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 1: round pick for Clowney four? I would offer a fourth 924 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: round pick for Clowney. I would offer a fourth round 925 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 1: pick for Clowney if I was the Jets. Now. Do 926 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,439 Speaker 1: I think that Joe Douglas, their new general manager, would 927 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 1: do it? Probably not. I was hearing someone talk on 928 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: a podcast or maybe a coach talking that they think 929 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 1: their offensive line man. It might have been on Peter 930 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: King's podcast that they felt pretty strong about their offensive 931 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,240 Speaker 1: line or better I think than the outside people think. Uh, 932 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, the wide receivers have looked pretty good with 933 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: Sam Donald Levian won't play all preseason, but we know 934 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 1: he's a star. They did lose Avery Williams, but they 935 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: got Leonard Williams. You drafted Quinn and Williams, so their 936 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 1: front should be pretty solid. They got Jamal Adams, who's 937 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,399 Speaker 1: a playmaker. I like their team. I think either them 938 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: or the Bills are gonna be I don't know which one. 939 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 1: I leaned the Jets, but the Bills are kind of 940 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 1: growing on me. With Josh Allen balling, one of those 941 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 1: two teams gonna win nine games, I'm not sure. And 942 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 1: if you said, like middle Coff, you've gotta put a 943 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,360 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, I probably just put five on both. I 944 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: don't feel confident about either, but I am confident one 945 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,399 Speaker 1: of the two of them is gonna be good because 946 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,919 Speaker 1: I like Adam Gates, I love Donald I like I 947 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: like Sean McDermott a lot. Their defense is gonna be good. 948 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's really growing on me. One of those two 949 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 1: teams are gonna be good. I'm telling you, I promise you. 950 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm a new hand listener, and I was wondering what 951 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: your thoughts are on the Colts plus the luck situation 952 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,399 Speaker 1: following tonight's game. Brissette looks solid tonight, and of course 953 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 1: the Colts have a good offensive pieces do you think 954 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 1: the Colts will end up being fine if luck mrs 955 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 1: worst case probably up to like four games? Well, so 956 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 1: this You probably sent this to me on Saturday night, 957 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 1: and I watched the first couple of drives Jacoby had 958 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,439 Speaker 1: a great drive where you hit Ebron in the back 959 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: of the end zone. Eric Keybron is just turned into 960 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: a monster. You know, it's crazy in this league. It's 961 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: a little like this is the NBA too, but definitely 962 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL, where sometimes a first round pick, for 963 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:04,280 Speaker 1: whatever reason, scheme fit, immaturity, physical immaturity just doesn't work 964 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: and then he goes to his new place. And I mean, 965 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: Erica Ebron is the best version. I mean, he's becoming 966 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 1: a lock pro bowler every year touchdown he had double coverage. 967 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: Who are they playing the Bengals. I did see a 968 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,719 Speaker 1: clip though of Andrew Luck warming up and he looked 969 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: pretty good. Just his his legs obviously we know shoulders 970 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 1: okay now, but the bone. He did some bag drills. 971 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 1: I feel like Andrew Luck is not gonna miss a 972 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,479 Speaker 1: game now. I don't have any inside information or anything. 973 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: I'm just going off a Twitter video, but I would 974 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,359 Speaker 1: be you know, what's August nineteen. I'd be a little 975 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 1: shocked if Andrew Luck missed the game. I am not 976 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,440 Speaker 1: expecting him to miss any games, but I'm with you. 977 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,799 Speaker 1: If he had to miss four, I think a three 978 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 1: and one or two and two with Jacoby. No problem. 979 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 1: Jacobe is gonna be a starter in the league next year. 980 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: I know Dak Zeke and Amari is the talk in Dallas, 981 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: But why is no one paying attention to Trafick fred 982 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: Travis Frederick coming back in my opinion, top three center 983 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,720 Speaker 1: in the league is coming back to a great online 984 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 1: and haven't heard a word about it. Uh, you know, 985 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 1: as I'm gonna put this about as simply as I can. 986 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 1: No one cares about offensive lineman really until they're gone. 987 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 1: You know, in this in the league, the talking points 988 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: or quarterbacks and skill guys and coaches, we don't talk 989 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: about guards and centers. You know, it's kind of hell. 990 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,800 Speaker 1: It kind of bores me. And I talked about football 991 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 1: for a living. Now, I hear you, he's a stud. 992 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 1: If he's playing there in good shape. If they can 993 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 1: get their starting offensive lineman on the field, and Zeke 994 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 1: comes back and dacks there, and Amri he's there, they're good. 995 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 1: Their defense is really good. I've I've kind of I mean, 996 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,720 Speaker 1: I might lean picking the Cowboys to the Super Bowl. 997 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 1: I'm becoming a little less confident with Zeke. I don't 998 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 1: I don't never know when he's coming back from Cobo. 999 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: If Jerry's gonna trade him on, what the hell is 1000 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: gonna happen? Mar He's kind of banged up with a 1001 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: bad heel, But yeah, I don't know. So I just 1002 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 1: think it's simple. Did people get people? The casual fan 1003 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 1: and most people that probably listen to this aren't like 1004 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 1: red seven football stuff. You know every offensive line but 1005 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 1: fantasy football. You know the quarterbacks, you know the skill guys, 1006 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,840 Speaker 1: you know the running backs. We just don't care about centers, 1007 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 1: you know, even the best ones. I mean, I got 1008 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson in my backyard. Rodney Hudson has been a 1009 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: top you know, probably ten offensive lineman in the NFL 1010 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 1: for five six straight years. I bet most NFL fans 1011 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 1: couldn't point him out in the lineup. Okay, you think 1012 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 1: he's embarrassed this on well, well a b. You think 1013 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 1: he's embarrassed about his dumbass with the cryotherapy and his 1014 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 1: feet are worse than everyone thinks hbo boost for hard 1015 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,520 Speaker 1: knocks and all the drama, or just a diva and 1016 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 1: he's trying to prove a point to the NFL all 1017 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 1: the eyes on me, or he's just proving a point 1018 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 1: to the Raiders and his teammates that he's the man 1019 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,240 Speaker 1: and he does what he wishes. I e. Trainer, trainer 1020 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 1: at the Raiders practice and all this stuff. Uh, you know, 1021 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 1: I I've kind of stopped trying to figure Antonio Brown out. 1022 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of it all. He's a 1023 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 1: big diva, he's a big me guy. He's gonna do 1024 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 1: anything he wants. I think he legitimately hates the new helmet. 1025 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 1: I think that he thought he could wear the old helmet. 1026 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 1: I think he's so rich and powerful he knows that 1027 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 1: he can kind of do whatever he wants. I'd be 1028 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 1: a little shocked. Like people say that this is for 1029 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 1: the for the Hard Knocks cameras, I disagree. Like you 1030 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: saw it, watch Mike Mayock talk. Why why would he 1031 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 1: allow like, let's say Hard Knocks came to him with 1032 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: an idea they were gonna run like a real world 1033 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: the Hills, you know, a fake storyline. Why would he 1034 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: let this happen? I I think they would not allow it, 1035 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 1: no chance, you know, for his it does It does 1036 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 1: make some sense when you say it out loud from 1037 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,320 Speaker 1: HBO standpoint, because it is really good for the ratings 1038 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 1: and people do care. I I just I'm telling you 1039 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,799 Speaker 1: I have a hard time imagining the Raiders signing off 1040 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 1: on the hard Knocks faking a story for Antonio Brown, 1041 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 1: like I think this is legitimately real. I think he 1042 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: hates the the new helmet. I think that at the 1043 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 1: end of the day. I think that's the biggest issue. 1044 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,319 Speaker 1: He legitimately hates the new helmet for whatever reason, he 1045 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 1: can't see it's not comfortable. I don't know he loves 1046 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: his old helmet. Doesn't quite add up. Question for the 1047 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 1: pod what do you think the best case, worst case 1048 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 1: scenario for the Jets is this year? And how do 1049 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,359 Speaker 1: you think the revamped old line will do. I gotta 1050 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 1: get a lot of Jets questions. Like I said, I'm 1051 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,239 Speaker 1: going back and forth on them and the Bills. I'd 1052 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 1: probably lean the Jets. I think there's a chance maybe 1053 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 1: the Jets go nine and seven, eight and eight and 1054 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,879 Speaker 1: the Bills go seven and nine, like they're both kind 1055 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 1: of in that same realm. I think the best case 1056 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 1: scenario for the Jets is Sam Donald has like an 1057 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,759 Speaker 1: m v P type season, you know, and for him 1058 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be like Mahomes. They don't quite have the weapons. 1059 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,320 Speaker 1: It would probably be like thirty five touchdowns and maybe 1060 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,759 Speaker 1: ten picks, which ten picks would be a big deal 1061 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,360 Speaker 1: for him because he's inclined to throw some throw some interceptions. 1062 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 1: And Levian Bell has a huge year. Their defense is 1063 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,839 Speaker 1: good under Greg Williams, I I think, so the best 1064 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 1: case scenario is there is just have a really really explosive, 1065 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 1: you know, really explosive offense and their defensive solid and 1066 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: Adam Gates a really good coach and Sam Donald is 1067 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,760 Speaker 1: just a superstar. Worst case scenario, their offensive lines and disaster. 1068 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 1: Levian's really rusty. Sam kind of struggles, they don't get 1069 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 1: much pass rush, and they suck and they win five 1070 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 1: or six games. But you look at Adam Gates's history, 1071 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,320 Speaker 1: like Adam Gates wins, So I would probably lean no 1072 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 1: on that. That'll do it. That'll be my last question. Well, 1073 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,439 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. The forty niner game now is twenty three 1074 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 1: to nine. That's a great thing about the preseason is 1075 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 1: if your starter suck, like, you don't get any credit 1076 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,319 Speaker 1: for anything that else happens after the game, you know, 1077 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: like beginning in the second quarter, no one cares. It's 1078 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,399 Speaker 1: all about the starters. That's the only questions Kyle's gonna 1079 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 1: get after this game, twenty three to nine, forty Niners 1080 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 1: in a route, even though it feels like they got 1081 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 1: blown out. It's kind of crazy how the preseason works. 1082 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening. Those d ms are wide open. You 1083 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 1: can slide up been him at John middlecoff my Instagram handle. 1084 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,240 Speaker 1: Come on and play baby, and I'll answer your questions 1085 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,879 Speaker 1: right here. Three Now Podcast audios, have a good week. 1086 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:08,359 Speaker 1: Talk soon.