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Speaker 3: Right, and it's a perfect time to pivot to our guest.

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Speaker 3: Willie Cologne played nine seasons in the NFL, and two

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Speaker 3: of those teams don't have a quarterback next year. Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: Steelers in my New York Jets. Willie, how you doing

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Speaker 3: a man? What's sub brother? You look good?

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Speaker 4: Look at us? Who would have thought?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know I remember doing stuff with you back

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Speaker 3: in the day out here in LA and Anna would

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Speaker 3: love to pick your brain because you're a Jets guy.

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Speaker 3: Tough times for our Jets. I know the staff will

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Speaker 3: be upset that I'm starting here. I gotta start with

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Speaker 3: the Jets. We don't have a quarterback next year. We've

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Speaker 3: got an embattled coach at Aaron Glenn. We got a

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Speaker 3: weak quarterback market in free agency. Ain't get Fernando Mendoza one.

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Speaker 3: What are we doing at quarterback?

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Speaker 5: And for the Jets, well, that's a good question to

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Speaker 5: just have to find their way out of quarterback purgatory

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Speaker 5: as you mentioned right now. For me, I know you,

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Speaker 5: I just heard you talk about Malik Willis. I would

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Speaker 5: take a shot at him right now. I think the

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Speaker 5: Jets really just need competent quarterback play.

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Speaker 4: You know, when Aaron Glenn got the.

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Speaker 5: Position, he told Jet Nation and Jet fans, we're gonna

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Speaker 5: have a physical outfit. We're gonna go out there, play

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Speaker 5: rough and tough, and we're gonna win games, and you're

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Speaker 5: gonna be proud of us.

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Speaker 4: Outside of Week one.

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Speaker 5: Of last year against the Pittsburgh Steelers, there's nothing to

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Speaker 5: be proud of. Right Like when we saw the Jets

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Speaker 5: go against the Steelers and the way they played, I'm like,

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Speaker 5: oh man, if this is what he's talking about, sign

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Speaker 5: us up.

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Speaker 4: None of that fell into fruition.

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Speaker 5: After that game, solely because of the quarterback play was

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Speaker 5: so poor.

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Speaker 4: If you're the Jets right now.

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Speaker 5: I understand you don't want to go out there and

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Speaker 5: take a long shot. I maybe I don't know Malik

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Speaker 5: Willis or Mariota, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 5: you can't survive the way you survived last year. I mean,

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Speaker 5: this team finished with three and fourteen and it was

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Speaker 5: just bad. This team was done before Halloween, so they

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Speaker 5: got to figure that out. I also think, you know,

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Speaker 5: you have two you have the second pick and you

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Speaker 5: have the sixteenth pick.

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Speaker 4: You have to dive into the defense.

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Speaker 5: Go get you an edge rusher, maybe get some help

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Speaker 5: in the secondary, use those picks defensively, and overall, man,

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Speaker 5: you just got to get back to being a competent

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Speaker 5: football team.

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Speaker 4: They're not competent. It's something to holes all over this team.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be it's gonna take a long road to

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Speaker 5: kind of fill those voice.

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Speaker 4: But nevertheless, starts with the.

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Speaker 5: Quarterback, find some help defensively in the draft, and hopefully

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Speaker 5: this thing can turn around for you.

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Speaker 2: J meck and look at that. Look at that stat

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Speaker 3: Games with zero offensive touchdowns since twenty fifteen. The Jets

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Speaker 3: buy a mile are number one. And then at the

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Speaker 3: bottom of the screen, Woody Johnson interferes with Jets defensive

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're a dumpster fire. It stinks.

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Speaker 3: You know. Here's my only problem with going after Malik

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Speaker 3: Willis or whoever you're not, you're gonna be too good

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Speaker 3: to get like a top three pick Willie, and I

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Speaker 3: believe they need to just I know you don't want

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Speaker 3: only way to get that great quarterback or get you know,

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Speaker 3: Arch Banding or CJ. Carror whoever, is to be terrible.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look at the Raiders. They essentially don't.

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Speaker 4: Huh like they've been terrible. I love you want them

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Speaker 5: The reason I like the Milik Willis pick up is

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Speaker 5: because you have Frank Wright, who's an OC who has

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Speaker 5: the ability to develop young quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: You have a good office line. You're gonna have to

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Speaker 4: chain Breese Hall to the building.

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Speaker 5: That seems like he wants out, but he's your best

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Speaker 5: offensive weapon outside of Garrett Wilson. You also have an

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Speaker 5: office line once again, who can protect a young guy

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Speaker 5: like that. So for me, it just makes sense that

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Speaker 5: can at least give you some hope on Sunday, right

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Speaker 5: like the Jets have no hope. We were sold that

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Speaker 5: Justin Fields was going to be the guy, like he

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Speaker 4: Let's pack him up, right.

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Speaker 5: And so if you're the Jets, you need you need

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Speaker 5: an adult at the position. If they can get that

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Speaker 5: next year's draft, where the quarterback drafts sposed to be better,

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Speaker 5: hopefully there's hope there, But.

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Speaker 4: Right now you need something.

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Speaker 5: You can't go into the season and looking at having

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Speaker 5: this offense look like what they looked like last year.

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Speaker 2: And last one on the Jets.

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Speaker 3: Can you even envision a scenario where the owner is

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Speaker 3: meddling with the defensive game plan, which is what's being

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Speaker 3: alleged right now.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn wanted to.

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Speaker 3: Hire a certain guy and then he was told them

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Speaker 3: the owner has a defensive game plan that doesn't align

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's rough.

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Speaker 4: Man. Well, I don't know if all that's true. I

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Speaker 4: honestly though, I think it comes. This is what I believe.

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Speaker 5: I believe Aaron Glenn was hired to be a defensive

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Speaker 5: I think the job he did in Detroit was so

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Speaker 5: significant that Woody Johnson's like, hey man, I'm paying you

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Speaker 5: twelve million dollars.

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Speaker 4: Right, you lead our defense. Right, you figure it out.

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Speaker 5: Why would you bring like a guy like Link Martindale

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Speaker 5: somebody else in the building to do what ultimately I'm

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Speaker 5: hiring you to do. So my mindset, if I'm Woody,

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Speaker 5: I'm like Doug, it's time for you to show up

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Speaker 5: right whole. You're not only a former Jet you know

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Speaker 5: the market. You've been able to survive the media firestorm.

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Speaker 5: We need you to show up and make this defense relevant.

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Speaker 5: They have pieces now, they need more, right, they need

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Speaker 5: some help on the back end. But nevertheless, man, Aaron Glenn,

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Speaker 5: Aaron Glenn in that department because honestly, j MG, like

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Speaker 5: you said, you're a Jets fan. Dude, can you point

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Speaker 5: out what's Aaron wing superpower as a head coach?

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Speaker 2: No, as of now, we don't know at all.

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Speaker 4: You know that's not great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go to the other team you played for,

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Speaker 3: William Pittsburgh Steelers. Listen, they're not in great shape right now.

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is waffling. Mike McCarthy may or may not

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Speaker 3: there's the Ben Roethlisberger stuff. Big Ben's been gone for

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Speaker 3: a minute, and now there's all this beef.

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Speaker 2: You know the Steelers. You know, Big Ben? Do you

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Speaker 2: have you picked a side yet.

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Speaker 4: In this one? I hate this?

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Speaker 5: Do you me?

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Speaker 4: Is that what you're looking for?

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Speaker 5: You're looking for me to say I hate this, I

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Speaker 5: don't like this, I don't like this is a brotherhood,

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Speaker 5: this is a family, and somehow family business is now.

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Speaker 4: On the street.

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Speaker 5: That's not the steal away and that's not how we

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Speaker 5: handle ourselves when you leave this still of locker room.

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Speaker 4: We're all considered ambassadors of the brand. And I'll say this,

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Speaker 4: and it's tough because I'm trying to like be careful

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Speaker 4: with my words. You know, Ben Roethlisberger is like a

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Speaker 5: When I was drafted in two thousand and six to

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Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh Steelers, he was the alpha male in the

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Speaker 5: seek valid I wanted to seek validation through him because

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Speaker 5: he was the guy that say that's a stealer.

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Speaker 4: And that's not a stealer.

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Speaker 5: James Harrison is like my brother as well, So I

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Speaker 5: have close ties to all these individuals.

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Speaker 4: That's a part of this story.

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Speaker 5: Nevertheless, I think it's important to give Ben Roethlisberger grace,

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Speaker 5: right because I think when he retired and he stepped

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Speaker 5: I could have handled situations better.

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Speaker 4: I could have been better with teammates.

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Speaker 5: Now that he's in his forties and a father of too,

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Speaker 5: closed doors. Because thing about this, Ja Mac. Three guys

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Speaker 5: know who they are, Ben Roethlisberger, Joey Porter, and Marquise Pouncy.

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Speaker 5: Whatever grip you had with Ben Roethlisberger, you could have

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Speaker 5: had that behind the great Stealer curtain. So Dow does

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Speaker 5: that Does that mean Joey Porter shouldn't have said anything

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Speaker 5: is an iconic figure in a stealer history. Nevertheless, there's

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Speaker 5: a certain way we have to conduct hold ourselves, if

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Speaker 5: you will, as former Steelers and even president Steelers. Still

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Speaker 5: the public on a podcast Valet was Cam Haywhi's podcast.

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Speaker 5: You know, we just got to be more careful. I

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Speaker 5: got a lot of love for all those brothers. I

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Speaker 5: just wish you didn't go public.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if Big Ben started it, but

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Speaker 3: I'll ask Willie, do you think there's a racial element

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Speaker 3: to this Big Ben Tomlin Porter?

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Speaker 4: No, No, that's nonsense. I know, I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't even know what that component would be like.

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Speaker 5: You would have to help me. I don't even Ben seems.

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Speaker 3: To be taking a lot of shots at Tomlin on

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Speaker 3: Tomlin was beloved and then Big Ben, I don't want

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Speaker 3: to say he started it, you know whatever, but he

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Speaker 3: seemed to go after Tomlin a little bit down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: We need a new voice in the locker room and.

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Speaker 3: Unable to win postseason games, it just felt weird Tomlin again.

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Speaker 2: Nobody goes after Tomlin.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the reason I'm confused about the racial component

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Speaker 5: because there's another person who's an African American who's been

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Speaker 5: very vocal about Mike Tomlin, and that's James Harrison, right,

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Speaker 5: And so that's why I'm confuse with the statement.

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Speaker 4: Nevertheless, man, it's okay to have.

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Speaker 5: Gripes about how you felt about the great Mike Tomlin,

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Speaker 5: whether you think he was great or you thought he

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Speaker 5: simply was handed the keys to a porch and he

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Speaker 4: Whatever. The man's a winner very much.

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Speaker 5: How I perceive Ben Roethlisberger, He's a runner very much

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Speaker 5: how I perceive Joey Porter and James Harrison. We're all

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Speaker 5: we lived in an area still a football where it

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Speaker 4: And it was real. Now that we all all older men.

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Speaker 5: They send Jacobe Myers to Jacksonville. Now it valid they

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Speaker 5: I've covered the New York Jets. I know what this

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Speaker 5: And if you're Clint Kubiak and you're joining the system

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Speaker 4: Teams in football win one. You know what a winning

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Speaker 5: And if you feel like a young quarterback is going

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Speaker 5: be more excuse me better if you will, and in

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Speaker 4: I'm this other mindset. You put a lot, you can

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Speaker 5: On your quarterback early if you put a lot on

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Speaker 4: I feel like you build a team up, plug him

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Speaker 5: I think he struggles off script, but when you have

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Speaker 4: That was once with the Bucks, right, so kind of

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Speaker 5: I just I think he's I think he's the best

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Speaker 3: All right, Willie, we could wrap up with this Kenneth

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Speaker 2: Parade is like, yeah, he wants more money.

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Speaker 3: And then it was like dead silence, and it's like, whoa, well,

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Speaker 3: I'm a little surprised by this, but we have seen

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Speaker 5: I mean, I understand I understand the want to keep him, right.

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Speaker 5: I think he was highly productive, especially within this offense,

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Speaker 4: I thought he set the tone for the Seahawks.

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Speaker 5: Ultimately, will kind of stabilize that offense, allowed Sam Darnold

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Speaker 4: Think he's great in between the tackles. He's shifty.

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Speaker 5: Nevertheless, there's the younger guys who I think who can

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Speaker 5: What he does on special teams, what he asked to

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Speaker 5: like that go somewhere else and make Hey. I think

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Speaker 2: Wow Bold, I like it.

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Speaker 3: Willie Cologne, former NFL player Steelers Jets, catch him on

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Speaker 3: first things first, Willie, thanks a lot, buddy, Thanks Sharp

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Speaker 3: Rachel tells us why someone in the NBA doesn't think

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Speaker 2: League, and it's not me because I'm a Luca guy.

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Speaker 6: Well, Jason. The Athletic Hold players it last weekend's All

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Speaker 6: Star Game, and they asked who's the greatest player in

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Speaker 6: the world, And the player said, Nikolai jkicch Well, one

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Speaker 2: Take a listen, Anthony Edwards is the best player in

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Speaker 2: our league today. Did you just say Anthony Edwards is

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Speaker 2: the best player in the NBA.

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Speaker 4: He's the best player in the NBA.

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Speaker 7: Yes, he is.

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Speaker 8: You can't watch a game on any given night against

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Speaker 8: person is better than Anthony Edwards. Even no Jokic is

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Speaker 8: offensively no, I listen, I love Jokicic, no question about it.

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Speaker 9: But no.

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Speaker 6: Look, Rich Paul has legit earned the right to say

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Speaker 6: whatever he wants about the NBA. I, however, and apparently

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Speaker 6: with Nikola Jokich. Where are you on this comparison?

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Speaker 2: Let me ask a question on a question.

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Speaker 3: Sure, do you believe that if somebody makes their teammates better,

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Speaker 3: makes everyone better, that's more valuable than just a great

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Speaker 6: Yes, okay, or at least it is an ingredient in

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Speaker 3: Luka and Jokic raise everyone's level around them. Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 3: is an awesome player, he doesn't make his teammates better.

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Speaker 2: Defender.

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Speaker 6: I'm agree with that Nikoli is a better defender than Luca, Luca.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's all in defense.

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Speaker 3: I would give it to Edwards, but his assists and

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Speaker 2: And the gravity, he doesn't make everyone else on the

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Speaker 2: Wolves awesome, and some.

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Speaker 6: Degree Jokic does by any stretch. And also, Jokich is

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Speaker 6: a better basketball player. I'm sorry he is. There's a

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Speaker 6: reason that the players who play the game say he

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Speaker 6: is the best player in the world. And by the way,

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Speaker 6: they have said that for several years in a row.

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Speaker 6: This is not like a new controversial he is he's

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Speaker 6: the best. I don't know. Again, I appreciate rich He's

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Speaker 6: been around, he knows certainly knows basketball.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Ant's better than SGA.

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Speaker 6: At the moment?

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Speaker 4: No? Oh?

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Speaker 6: No, interesting, okay, I mean I.

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Speaker 3: Would go aunt over Sga. I think it's I think

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Speaker 3: it's yo kitchen, Luca.

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Speaker 6: I love Anthony Edwards as a player. He's the most

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Speaker 6: charismatic guy in the NBA right now, is it in

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Speaker 6: Rich Paul's clients? I'm not saying this is why Rich

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Speaker 6: Yo Kitchen's legacy is not quite as bright as.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if his client lists in front of me,

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Speaker 3: but you know the most important one.

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Speaker 6: All right, let's talk about Let's talk about what's going

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Speaker 6: on in Indiana and Chicago. Jason, I am so fired. Yes, yes, yes, okay,

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Speaker 6: all right now, Indiana lawmakers this morning just voted unanimously

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Speaker 6: to clear a path for the Bears to build a

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Speaker 6: new Dome stadium in Hammond, Indiana, and the Bears released

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Speaker 6: a statement right after that basically saying let's go. They

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Speaker 6: said this fulfills their quote vision to build a world

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Speaker 6: class stadium near Wolf Lake in Hammond. Now, to make

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Speaker 6: this story spicier, after the vote, after the Bears released

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Speaker 6: the statement, the Illinois House they had been scheduled to

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Speaker 6: have their own hearings just this morning about spending some

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Speaker 6: of their state money for a new suburban Chicago stadium.

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Speaker 6: They canceled it. They canceled a hearing and the stadium

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Speaker 6: from the governor, the statement from the governor's office said

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Speaker 6: Illinois was ready to move forward with this bill. It said,

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Speaker 6: and then quote this morning, we were surprised to see

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Speaker 6: a statement lauding Indiana and not even ignoring Illinois. Now, Jason,

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Speaker 6: I went to school in Chicago. I covered the Bears

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Speaker 6: a lot when I covered the NFL. The idea of

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Speaker 6: a team whose ownership is worth one and a half

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Speaker 6: billion dollars going to Indiana instead of staying in Chicago

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Speaker 6: for tax money just blows my mind. These are the

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Speaker 6: Chicago Bears. You know, the two stadiums that the Chicago

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Speaker 6: Bears have played with in their history, Wrigley Field for

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Speaker 6: fifty years and then Soldier Field for the last fifty

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Speaker 6: plus years. The history there, the history with its fan base,

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Speaker 6: which is one of the greatest fan bases in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: And look, Espian's Courtney Cronin, who I really respect, was

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Speaker 6: on the radio this morning and said, look, the McCaskey family,

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Speaker 6: they just aren't liquid enough to build their own stadium.

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Speaker 6: They do need this taxpayer money. Jason, you are not

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Speaker 6: the owners of a team like the Chicago Bears. You

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Speaker 6: are the stewards of a team like the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 6: And if you don't have the resources to keep the

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Speaker 6: Bears in Chicago, you sell the team to someone who does.

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Speaker 6: You do, not hold on to it for the vanity

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Speaker 6: of holding onto it, and move them to Indiana. I

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Speaker 6: am so fired up.

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Speaker 3: Wow, they're probably not going to sell the team, right,

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Speaker 3: I know you think they should, but they're probably not going.

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Speaker 6: To sell them one the Lakers, Jeanie Buss and the

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Speaker 6: Bus family.

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Speaker 7: That's a point.

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Speaker 6: They did not have the same resources to operate as

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Speaker 6: a lot of their competition around the NBA, and they

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Speaker 6: sold the team that someone who does. And by the way,

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Speaker 6: that was her family legacy, and she did what was

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Speaker 6: best for the team. I am sorry, this is this

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Speaker 6: is the Chicago Bears. What are we talking about?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 2: I was just trying to look up where this Dome

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Speaker 2: stadium would be. How far is this from, like the

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Speaker 2: important from soil Hartfield.

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Speaker 6: It's about an hour in traffic, but there's always traffic.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's not that bad. But it's in Indiana.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, that's from the city center. A

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Speaker 6: lot of Chicago Bears fans live an hour and north

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Speaker 6: of the CEME. So now you're talking about and by

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Speaker 6: the way, are they going to become the Indiana Bears.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they can't be the Chicago Bears anymore. You're

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Speaker 6: talking about are we changing the name of the team.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry. If you own the Chicago Bears, you either

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Speaker 6: figure out I made a wake at work, make it

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Speaker 6: work in Chicago, or you sell the team to someone

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Speaker 6: who does. By the way, that no great hardship for

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Speaker 6: what eight million dollars or whatever? It would be a

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Speaker 6: billion rather.

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Speaker 2: Where are you, townpayer?

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Speaker 6: You know the low for Yeah, look, I am not

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Speaker 6: a fan of spending tax payer money on stadiums for billionaires.

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Speaker 6: You know, we just had the Into It Dome built here.

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Speaker 6: We just had Sofi Stadium built here in La. Both

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Speaker 6: of those buildings were built by ownership. Now these are

515
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Speaker 6: very rich owners, but that's what it takes. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 6: And there was some state money on some of the infrastructure,

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Speaker 6: like the highways and you know, electric lines and all

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Speaker 6: that stuff. But everyone does benefit for that, and I'm

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Speaker 6: okay with that. But you were talking about a time

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Speaker 6: in America. The economics are tough for a lot of

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Speaker 6: Americans right now, and to say we are going to

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Speaker 6: give a billionaire family taxpayer money for a stadium and

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Speaker 6: not only do it, but to move the team to

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Speaker 6: Indiana the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 4: I'm not in for it now.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like it's going to get ugly. You just

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Speaker 2: got me into this.

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Speaker 6: It's ugly already. I don't like it. All right, let's

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Speaker 6: move on to something nicer. Also, I'm hyped up about

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Speaker 6: but in the good way. I want to give you

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Speaker 6: an Olympic update, Jason, USA women's curling. The US team

533
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Speaker 6: just this morning advanced to the semifinals with the seven

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Speaker 6: to six win over Switzerland. The game went into extras.

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Speaker 6: It was a super clush performance. It came down to

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Speaker 6: the last rock. It was a walk off when and

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Speaker 6: I had to tell you, Jays, this is a special

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Speaker 6: team that's led by two sisters. They both had babies

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Speaker 6: in the last year and a half. Coming back from

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Speaker 6: that wasn't as easy as they had hoped. They weren't

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Speaker 6: in the shape they needed to be to qualify for

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Speaker 6: the Olympics. They didn't qualify for the Olympics. There are

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Speaker 6: a lot of people around the sport who thought, eh,

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Speaker 6: maybe they're past it now, maybe they should still be

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Speaker 6: doing this. And they were like, like hell, we shouldn't

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Speaker 6: be doing this. They got back into their groove. They

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Speaker 6: got the last spot in the Olympic tournament, doing this

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Speaker 6: last chance qualifier in British Columbia, and now look at them,

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Speaker 6: they are in the semi finals. I am so proud

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Speaker 6: of this team. I'm a board members I mentioned at

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Speaker 6: the top of the show for USA Curling. They're great.

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Speaker 6: I love this win. I love how so many of

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Speaker 6: the American teams are doing over in Italy.

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Speaker 4: That's good.

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Speaker 3: I've seen the videos of curling invitations at work and

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Speaker 3: funny stuff. I don't really know much about the sport,

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Speaker 3: but congratulations, that's awesome.

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Speaker 2: It's like a positive story.

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Speaker 6: And their babies are in the stands watching their MoMA.

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Speaker 6: Really yes, it's so much fun watch this team play

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Speaker 6: the semis. They play fast for one again.

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Speaker 2: All right, Rachel with the news. Well that's the news,

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Speaker 2: and thanks for stopping by The Herd Line News.

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Speaker 7: All right.

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Speaker 3: Coming up next, Chris Filika the Bear are gonna drop by.

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Speaker 3: We got some Final four bets. Maybe we'll talk a

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Speaker 3: little NFL draft bets, NBA futures all that.

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Speaker 4: Next.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noon Easter, not am Pacific.

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Speaker 3: You know him well from college football's big noon kickoff, Chris.

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Speaker 2: I know you're a forlorn Jets fan like myself.

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Speaker 3: You won't get into the Jets, but I want to

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Speaker 3: jump right into the NFL draft. Raiders sitting pretty at one.

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Speaker 3: Everyone has them taking Mendoza. But memory serves the last

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Speaker 3: time we talked Mendoza you were not out on him,

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Speaker 3: but just not as bullish on him as a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Is that accurate?

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Speaker 7: Yea, I would. I would say the thing that I

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Speaker 7: have the issue with that issue.

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Speaker 9: But situation with the Raiders is you are, along with

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Speaker 9: the Jets, one A, one B in terms of worst rosters.

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Speaker 7: In the league.

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Speaker 9: You took a kind of a novelty pick last year

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Speaker 9: with Ashton gent where you took a running back sixth

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Speaker 9: overall in the draft and put him in a position

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Speaker 9: where they were with a terrible roster you weren't going

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Speaker 9: to do very well. I just worry that if you

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Speaker 9: draft mendoz in number one and put him in surround

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Speaker 9: him with that team he's he may not have great success.

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Speaker 7: And who knows what happened happens a year? When does

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Speaker 7: that affect him long term.

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Speaker 9: If I'm the Raiders, I hope that somebody is enabored

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Speaker 9: with him wants to trade up, because the twenty twenty

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Speaker 9: sixth draft is about acquiring assets for the twenty twenty

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Speaker 9: seven draft. If I'm the Raiders and I can't trade out,

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Speaker 9: I would be considered doing something like taking an offensive

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Speaker 9: lineman or taking the defender of your choice, maybe to

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Speaker 9: pair with Max Crosby in that division, doing nothing in

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Speaker 9: that division with the.

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Speaker 7: Broncos, Chiefs, and Chargers.

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Speaker 9: So take so taking the impact defensive player number one,

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Speaker 9: or an offensive lineman. Take a quarterback, maybe at the

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Speaker 9: top a round two, knowing that you're going to be

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Speaker 9: right back in the same position next.

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Speaker 2: Love him as a Jets fan.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to trade up for Mendoza, but I

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Speaker 3: will gladly draft him one. If it doesn't work out,

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Speaker 3: we're drafting again next year with an amazing I mean

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Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smithson. The mix next year it's loaded. All right,

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Speaker 3: let's let's go. Let's pivot to college basketball, Chris, I

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Speaker 3: know you love college hoops. First, you have a take

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Speaker 3: on the Darren Peterson. I don't even know what we're

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Speaker 3: calling it self. Imposed, I need to chill out. I

615
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Speaker 3: got cramping, hamstring, illness, ankle. It's always something. Bill Self

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Speaker 3: seems like he's done with this.

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Speaker 9: It seems like Bill Self has finally reached his breaking

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Speaker 9: point with this. He's done all that he's could all

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Speaker 9: year and no know he's been flu whatever. It feels

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Speaker 9: like last night kind of was the breaking point here.

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Speaker 9: It looks like he's ready for the NBA with all

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Speaker 9: the sulible posed load management that he has. But I

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Speaker 9: think when you watch the guy play, he is an

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Speaker 9: impact scorer and impact player. It's going to be fascinating

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Speaker 9: to see if he does go number one in the

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Speaker 9: draft or if Flemings from Houston maybe.

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Speaker 4: Goes up there.

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Speaker 9: All this that's why I think Adam Silver in the

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Speaker 9: NBA in general, why this tanking thing is such a

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Speaker 9: big deal. This is a great draft at the top,

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Speaker 9: and I think you're going to have franchises really positioning

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Speaker 9: for players here.

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Speaker 7: But I hate seeing a guy hopefully in March madness.

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Speaker 9: Hopefully the time the NCAA tournament comes around, we'll see Peterson.

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Speaker 7: Playing in full strength all the time.

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Speaker 2: Would you advise betting on Kansas futures?

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Speaker 3: Obviously not now you want to wait for them to

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Speaker 3: lose and then bet if it gets depressed a little.

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Speaker 2: But it's just the uncertainty of him not playing. They're

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Speaker 2: very good without him.

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Speaker 3: I've seen some numbers that say they're still a top

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Speaker 3: five team without Peterson, just the depth, you know, March.

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Speaker 2: Madness, the way that's officiated. Would you bet on Kansas

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Speaker 2: to win it all?

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't.

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Speaker 9: I don't think they are up there with the contenders.

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Speaker 9: I think you have a very clear group of contenders

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Speaker 9: this year. I have people talking about, oh, there maybe

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Speaker 9: twenty teams or whatever that can maybe win the title.

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Speaker 9: I don't see it that way at all. I think

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Speaker 9: you got Michigan, I think you've got Duke. I think

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Speaker 9: you've got Arizona, Houston probably it's going to be right

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Speaker 9: on that one line. Florida maybe right right right there

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Speaker 9: in the mix for.

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Speaker 7: That one line. I think you're looking at a group

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Speaker 7: of teams like that.

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Speaker 9: Kansas I think could potentially make a run, but ultimately

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Speaker 9: push comes to shove.

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Speaker 7: I don't think they are in that Michigan Duke Duke

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Speaker 7: type class.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, you know, we love the Big ten here. Illinois

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Speaker 3: is a monster. They're getting healthy. Yeah, stri Yokovic is

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Speaker 3: so good he's not even their best player anymore. With

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Speaker 3: another freshman, another team with an awesome freshman over under

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Speaker 3: one and a half Big Ten teams in the final four,

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Speaker 3: Oh that's it, I could say.

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Speaker 7: Too, because I am very, very high on Illinois. I've

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Speaker 7: been Illinois a couple of.

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Speaker 9: Weeks back right around the time of that Purdue game

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Speaker 9: to reach the Final four, because they have all of

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Speaker 9: the ingredients that you need. They've got multiple guys who

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Speaker 9: are multiple bigs. They got multiple guys on the on

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Speaker 9: the on the floor who can shoot the three, and

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Speaker 9: they've got a young point, a young player who's not

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Speaker 9: afraid to take over a game.

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Speaker 7: And you get Boswell back at the point corposition too.

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Speaker 9: So Illinois is a team that absolutely can make a

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Speaker 9: deep run in addition to Michigan, who is a very

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Speaker 9: deserving favorite to win it all, even though I am

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Speaker 9: not wordy just to hand Michigan the title yet, because

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Speaker 9: while they are the best team, every now and then

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Speaker 9: they're susceptible to maybe going cold from the outside, like

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Speaker 9: they did early on against Northwestern.

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Speaker 7: Every now and then they have a struggle.

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Speaker 9: From the line and maybe don't put games away or

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Speaker 9: let teams maybe back in seemingly a little bit, so

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Speaker 9: tournament's a little bit different pressure. But Illinois absolutely is

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Speaker 9: a team that I would not want to see pop

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Speaker 9: up as the two seed if I'm a one seat

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Speaker 9: in that region.

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Speaker 3: Michigan and tendency to either blow teams out, we haven't

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Speaker 3: seen a lot of close games from them. They're just

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Speaker 3: waxing folks. They play Duke Saturday in a huge game

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Speaker 3: in DC. I'm seeing here in Michigan three and a half.

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Speaker 3: That's a little more than I would have liked, But

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Speaker 3: that's a lot of respect for Michigan neutral site it is.

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Speaker 9: I always looking at the Ken Palm numbers here just beforehand,

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Speaker 9: and it's got Michigan minus two.

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Speaker 7: Michigan protected to be a two point favorite.

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Speaker 9: So there might even be people people who see that

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Speaker 9: three and a half and might even be apt to

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Speaker 9: take to it.

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Speaker 7: Maybe the number comes down.

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Speaker 9: A little bit of a middle, but I think I

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Speaker 9: think Michigan is just a little bit deeper and a

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Speaker 9: little bit better than do I'm just looking forward to

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Speaker 9: a great regular season college basketball game because we've had

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Speaker 9: so many to see.

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Speaker 7: To see two elite teams like this officially. Look at

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Speaker 7: the week we've had with you.

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Speaker 9: You've had Arizona in Texas, Tech in Houston, h Iowa,

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Speaker 9: stay playing in big games. It's been a really good,

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Speaker 9: awesome product this year. For those who they say the

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Speaker 9: college basketball regular season really doesn't matter or a meaning

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Speaker 9: thing and isn't very entertaining, it's been quite the opposite

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Speaker 9: this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let me get you out of here. On this

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Speaker 3: NBA Finals. Is there a futures pick that you like?

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Speaker 2: I don't mind throwing a dart. I like Nick Spurs.

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Speaker 3: Is there any matchup you would you would look at

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Speaker 3: now to consider wagering on.

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Speaker 9: I think the Nuggets are probably the team that draw

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Speaker 9: my eye, and the West the Spurs do as well.

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Speaker 9: But I would be looking to play again into Oklahoma City, Uh,

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Speaker 9: just because you saw the road that they had last year,

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Speaker 9: nearly picked off in the playoffs, and maybe if Halliburton

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Speaker 9: doesn't get hurt, they may lose games of the finals.

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Speaker 9: You got a healthier Nuggets team now. The Spurs obviously

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Speaker 9: have their numbers. I'd be looking towards, uh look maybe

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Speaker 9: to go a tag team against Oklahoma State. And I

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Speaker 9: think the way that Calves have been playing since the

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Speaker 9: hard and trade, they're going to continue to get better

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Speaker 9: as well. Maybe maybe a Spurs calves or a Nuggets

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Speaker 9: calves that might be kind of enticing.

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Speaker 2: I didn't hear Lakers. Did I hear Lakers?

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Speaker 7: Or no, no, you didn't know you did? You did

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Speaker 7: not hear that? Maybe honestly, the Lakers next year, let's idea.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do that.

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Speaker 3: Chris philaka the Bear, thanks a lot, buddy, enjoy the

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Speaker 3: games this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Catch Chris obviously on Big Noon Kickoff. All right, Rachel,

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Speaker 2: we survived.

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Speaker 4: Well what a show.

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Speaker 2: We didn't even talk about tanking in the NBA. We're

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Speaker 2: saving that for tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: Such good stuff. Yeah, and the owner went off with

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Speaker 6: by that tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, I I try not to go on just

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Speaker 3: as show. Yes, okay, uh and maybe a little more

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Speaker 3: Olympics talk, Eileen do Yeah, I would like to talk

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Speaker 3: about that. I don't know ready, I don't go.

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Speaker 2: America is ready for it.

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Speaker 6: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Well, actually they don't really like let's just start, okay.

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Speaker 9: So that was fun.

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Speaker 2: One day down, one to go. Thanks to all our

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Speaker 2: great gifts. See you tomorrow,