1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Alrighty, welcome once again everybody to Big Blue Kickoff live 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: here on Giants dot Com. The number, as always to 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: call is two oh one four or five one three. 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: I am Russ Salzburg, joined today by John Schmolke, the 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: first time that we are united. My friends. What's up Rus? 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: How are you? What's up? Well? The question is not 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: what's up with me? It's what's up with the Giants? 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: And you know, John, you were there yesterday. I gotta 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: tell you of when I say you were there yesterday, 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: you were in the locker room with me, and you know, 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: based on first impressions, you know, I don't want to 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: put too much pressure on the guy, but they got 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: ahold of jam On Brown to play and to help 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 1: on the offensive line. If he could be half as 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: good on the field as he was talking and standing 16 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: by his locker, I think, uh uh, using another sport, 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: I think the Giants will have hit a home run 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: because he was very impressive. Just his attitude, his confidence, 19 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: standing by a lot of talking like a man. I 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: thought he was. He was all business and I'm ready 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: to go. Yeah. Look, I think he was here. He 22 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: was very personable. He's a big guy. I mean he 23 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: he those are three real path Yeah. He he looks 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: more like a tackle than he does a guard in 25 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: terms of his heighting his stature. Um, if you go 26 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: to Giants dot com, folks, I did a two and 27 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: a half minute one on one with him, you can 28 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: check that out. Um. Real good dude. And he's young 29 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: too for us. He's only twenty four years old. Um, 30 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: he's on the last year of his rookie contract. So 31 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: he's someone that Pat Schrumer said at his press conference 32 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: yesterday they hoped to plug in as quickly as possible. 33 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 1: He was asked specifically if that could happen as early 34 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: as Monday night. He said, yeah, we're gonna try so. 35 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: He could be a big part of this thing real soon. 36 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: I what impressed me about him though, you know, I 37 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: didn't realize he's only twenty four years old. I mean 38 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: the fact that he's twenty four very mature, very mature 39 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: in his answers. Um. He was asked specifically, Look, he's 40 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: going from the Rams, you know, and when he left 41 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: the Rams he was eight. They were eight. No, he's 42 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: come to the Giants are and one and seven. So 43 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: they asked them, Uh, you know, a couple of people 44 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: asked about, you know, do you gotta gear yourself up 45 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: and get yourself mentally ready. What's it like going from 46 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: a team like that to a one and seven team 47 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: in last place? And he was real emphaticed He says, Look, 48 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you're eight and one, it doesn't 49 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: matter if you won in seven. It's football, and you 50 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: are a pro, and you are you prepare yourself to 51 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: play each and every game. And you know what, it 52 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: wasn't cliche stuff, you know what. It wasn't that standard 53 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, nonsense. It was he was just the guy. 54 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm I'm really surprised that you tell me that he was. Uh. 55 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: I thought he was, you know, maybe twenty eight, very 56 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: very mature for a young man. And like I say, uh, listen, 57 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: I would expect. Nobody has told me anything. I don't 58 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: know if anybody has told you anything. But my guests 59 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: would be that, uh he moves into guard and uh 60 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: police would I would think police stays at center and 61 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: Greco goes back to being what they've gotta be here for, 62 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: which is a backup. Yeah, I would expect, and he's 63 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: twenty that's my fault, close enough, But um he yeah, 64 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: I think right guards his spot, and then who winds 65 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: up at center. Gregor ro Poli will see, but I 66 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: think right guard is certainly the spot he will wind 67 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: up in and talking to him, I think the interesting part. 68 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: I asked him what's tougher here, Jim on is it 69 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: learning the playbook or is it learning kind of the 70 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: nuances of the Giants offense and working with the guys 71 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: that you're gonna be next to that you haven't played 72 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: with before. And he said, look, play plays or plays. 73 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: There's only so many running plays you can run. But 74 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: it's the nuances of the Giants system, of their offense, 75 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: of the guys he's playing alongside and learning, you know, 76 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: how to play with them. Is when you play on 77 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: the offensive line, it's so much chemistry. It's knowing what 78 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: the guy next to you is gonna do without having 79 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: to look at him and ask him. So that's something 80 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: that will develop in time. It's not gonna come right away, 81 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: but it's something that he thinks he can figure out 82 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: relatively quickly, you know. And Jeff Figgles was here yesterday. 83 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: We were talking about it. You know, it was there 84 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: was some calls. I think our friend lend from Columbia, 85 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: Maryland called and you know, saying, well, you don't want 86 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: to get the guys who are let go. You want 87 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: to get the guys who who were picked up which 88 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: forced the guy to be let go. But you gotta 89 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: remember something on certain teams. Listen, there are guys on 90 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: certain teams that would be starters in a lot of 91 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: places in the league, just that they're stuck behind. You know, 92 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: some good players. I think he was one of those guys. 93 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: And let's be frank, it wasn't just the Giants who 94 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: put in waivers on him. They had quite a few 95 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: people interested in the Yeah, and look, it's November. All 96 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: pros aren't falling off teams here. You know that they 97 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: don't grow on trees. So you pick up the best 98 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: players that are available. If they're better than the players 99 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: on your roster, you take them. You're develop them, and 100 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: you see what you can do. Now. I don't think 101 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: anyone's gonna tell anyone out there that somebody that was 102 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: let go by another NFL team is gonna come in 103 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: here and be the magic wand silver bullet that solves 104 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: all their problems on the offensive line. That's not gonna happen. Here, 105 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean he can't help and make things 106 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: a little bit better and to have a chance to 107 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: do it quickly. Okay, Having said that, listen, you know 108 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: my attitude. Days everybody's talking about, well, what's gonna happen, 109 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, with the quarterback, and what's happening with this 110 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: and with that ELI starting Monday. We know that exactly, 111 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: ELI start starting Monday. And from a giant standpoint, you know, 112 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: I've said this before and when you won in seven, 113 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: that has to be the mandate. You win the game 114 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: by any means necessary. Don't don't start. We had some 115 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: calls yesterday. I forget his name, good guy you I'm 116 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: sure you've spoken to him before. He was looking through 117 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: the schedule and and he's looking through the other schedules 118 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: and he's trying to figure out you know, the other 119 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: teams in the NFC e's they have a tough schedule too, 120 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: And if he's already had to figure it out, if 121 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: things fall the Giants way, maybe we can still get 122 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: to And I said, listen, before you win two in 123 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: a row, you gotta win one in a row and 124 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: then you go from there. Let's take care of business. 125 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: Let the Giants take care of business out in San Francisco, 126 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: then they can worry about Tampa Bay back home, and 127 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: then I believe it's the Eagles. But you just gotta 128 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: correct the situation going on. And I thought coming out 129 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: of the break, I didn't get a chance to talk 130 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: to you after you know, the Pat Sherman's uh, you know, 131 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: get together with us yesterday, nor after the locker room. 132 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 1: But I thought Sherman was pretty upfront and candid about 133 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: everything and says, listen, everybody's got to play better. You know. 134 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: It wasn't a mandate. You know, I saw some of 135 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: this nonsense which the back page had back page of 136 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: the Daily News had for you know, here it is 137 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,559 Speaker 1: when was it say four more quarters? Well, that wasn't 138 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: a message to Eli Manning. The message was to everybody, listen, 139 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: we all have to play better. If you keep losing games. Listen, 140 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: they're obligated to find out what they got on the 141 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: roster with everybody along the line. You don't want to 142 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: make the same mistakes you made last year. Hey. Look, 143 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: I talked to Eli after every game, and the first 144 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: thing he says to me is that I need to 145 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: play better. So I mean this isn't late breaking news here, um, 146 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: And look, there's still a key aims to go. The 147 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: National Football League is not the NBA where you just 148 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: roll guys out and if you lose, you lose. These 149 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: guys are literally putting life in limb on the line 150 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: every time they step out there. It's the responsibility of 151 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: the coach to give the team the best chance to 152 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: win every time they go out there. And Eli Manning 153 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: gives this team the best chance to win as their 154 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: starting quarterback. Now, that doesn't mean that he's the next 155 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: quarterback for the next five years and he's the future. 156 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: He's starting nine years old. Look, we get that. Math 157 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: is math um, let's note. I think it's seven. I'm sorry, correct, 158 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: you're right, absolutely, And those are two different issues. And 159 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: where the Giants stand now, he gives him the best 160 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: chance to win. That's why he's gonna play. And they 161 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: asked him, well, why do you talk to Eli? Specifically said, well, 162 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: he's the quarterback, he's the most important position on the team, 163 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: and he's a captain. So you're gonna have those individual 164 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: conversations and and I don't think people should take more 165 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: out of that than than coach Hermer said, they well, 166 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that, because that that was my attitude. 167 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: And he said Sherman said to everybody, roll with it, 168 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: and he which way you want, you know, take out 169 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: of it what you want. So I guess that's that's 170 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: inviting everybody to speculate. But he didn't need to invite 171 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: everybody to speculate. That's gonna happen, you know, when he 172 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: wakes up in the morning. But whenever the coach says 173 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: anything about the quarterback, you know, the years go up. 174 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: You know. I was talking with former Giants GM a 175 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, Ernie a Corsi, and Ernie said, listen, 176 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: Ernie's the guy who brought uh Eli Manning to the Giants, 177 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: and he's the guy said he's Russ Eli or anybody else. 178 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: The quarterback is the lightning rod. It does not matter 179 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: who was right, who was wrong, who was good who 180 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: was not. The quarterback remains the lightning rod. You know, 181 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: it is. It's the biggest position in all the sports 182 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: when you think about it, it really is because football 183 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: is the most team oriented sport of all the sports, 184 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: and it's got to start with the quarterback. So you know, 185 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: nobody's touching the ball more than the center and the quarterback. 186 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: Two oh one, nine nine four or five one three 187 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: is the number. Want to remind everybody big look kickoff 188 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: Live here is presented by corps Light. Download the cores 189 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: Light Rewards app to win yourself amazing Giants prizes out 190 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: the season. John, when you say we opened up the 191 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: phone lines stood, go to our buddy, uh in Ala Mucci. 192 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: It is Chris, Chris. How are you doing today? You're 193 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: wrong with Russ doing one of us? Hi? Hi John, Hi, us? 194 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: Of course, how are you doing? Hey? It's good? Good, 195 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: So you know today to my surprise, the Giants, I 196 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: don't know if it was announced yet, but it looks 197 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: like they've they've released. Is that confirmation released on the 198 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: punt returner Quadre Anderson. Yes, I'm a little shocked. I 199 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: mean he's he's actually been a bright spot for a 200 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: couple of games and uh a little a little surprised 201 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: at that move with what your thoughts is that? Is 202 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: that to pave the way maybe for Corey Coleman well well, 203 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: to do some returns. What do you think? Oh? I think, well, John, 204 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: maybe you know a little more than I do. I 205 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: don't know obviously Corey Coleman. I think that's out of 206 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: the reason he can be cut or was cut. Listen, 207 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: they needed to make room for m R J McIntosh, 208 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: who was just added to the roster, so, uh, listen, 209 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: he was drafted by them. I'm guessing, and this is 210 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: just guessing, Johnson. I don't know if you know anything different. Um, 211 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: I would think that they're gonna try and figure out 212 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: a way to bring Quadre Henderson back. Yeah, and look worse, 213 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: I don't think that they want to use a roster 214 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: spot on a guy that just don and I think 215 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: that's really the bottom line, and they can't use him 216 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: anywhere else. He's a return man and that's it. Um. 217 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: And I think Joel Davis coming back from concussion, maybe 218 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: you use him on punts. Yeah, and then Corey Coleman 219 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: as well. So yeah, I think they'll figure out a 220 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: way to get around it. And I just think they 221 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: don't want to have a guy taking up a roster 222 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: spot that just does returns. And I really think that's 223 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: pretty much what Quadre Henderson is. Yeah, Chris, Yeah, I 224 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: think you know it wasn't they in Like I'm obviously listen, 225 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: both of us will be the first ones to tell you. 226 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: He certainly gave them a boost. But I think that's 227 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: the reasoning behind it. I don't think in my mind, 228 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't think he's completely ruled out of the future, 229 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: but that was the reasoning behind that. I think John 230 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: just spelt it out. The other guys, Davis and Coleman, 231 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, offer you, um other options besides just returning. 232 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: You remember this this team is one and seven, they're 233 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: not seven and one. They you know, they can't just 234 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: afford that one position. Yeah, right, I got it, and 235 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: Jamon Brown very impressed with that pick up. I think, 236 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully next year he could he could solidify 237 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: that right guard spot. Um I do you touch upon 238 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: it last week? But besides that point, I also wanted 239 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: to say, you know, the Giants, since they had Sean O'Hara, 240 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: I always go back to the offensive line. But that's 241 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, this anchor at the center position. I know 242 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: right now we're not going to change anything, but it's just, 243 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's pretty ironic h in itself that 244 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: you have to go back to Sean O'Hara. Was the 245 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: last time when the Giants were able to run the 246 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: ball and they had a uh, you know, an anchor 247 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: at center. Now David Boss. You know, he did okay, 248 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: but he was injured quite a bit. And even back 249 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: then in two thousand and eleven, we didn't have a 250 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: great running game like Paul Paul alluded to. We we 251 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: were sporadic. We had our moments. But um, how what 252 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: what you're what you're feeling? I'm moving forward with Howipelo 253 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: next year? Do you really feel like, uh, you know, 254 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: center is gonna be uh uh something that Giants will 255 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: look at in either the draft for you, yeah, I mean, Chris, 256 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: They've they've invested in in the center position. You mentioned 257 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: David Boss to use a second on draft pick on 258 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: Weston Richburg. So those are two significant investments since Shanahwa 259 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: retired and left. Um that they have made the center 260 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: position that hasn't worked out the way they wanted to obviously, Um, 261 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: I think how Appeal will be back, have a chance 262 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: to compete for that job next year. But will they 263 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: look the other way and say, oh, we don't need 264 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: to make any improvement at this spot in the off season. No, 265 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: They'll explore all their options and if they see something 266 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: out there that makes sense. I'm sure, they'll bring in 267 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: another body. You know, they didn't plan on Hawapeo being hurt. 268 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: You know, we you know, we were getting the conversation 269 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: yesterday about wow while you know, letting Brett Jones go. Listen, 270 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm the first one to tell you I was a 271 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: big fan of Brett Jone. I was sorry. I think 272 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: everybody in the organization was was a fan. They made 273 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: the decision to go with Halapio. Listen, if you know, 274 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: you would have had the foresight to know he was 275 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: gonna get hurt, they never would have traded Brett Jones. 276 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: But Halapio. Let me tell you what. Halapio going down 277 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: caused a domino effect that had very negative you know, um, 278 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: I had very much negative effects throughout because it created 279 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: the domino of this guy coming in and this guy 280 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: moving over. It just wasn't good. Yeah, no, absolutely, all right, guys, 281 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: thanks for thanks for the info and uh thanks Chris, 282 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: thank you. Two five one three is the number. Let's 283 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: now go down to New Orleans and check in with Nead. 284 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: Is that am I saying it right? Neurad? Yeah, you're 285 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: saying that right? Alright? That doing alright? Buddy? Yeah? My 286 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: question is, yeah, I think giants, you have to get 287 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: back to a little fundamental like we get all we 288 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: go a running back that we need, but you know, 289 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: we like I say, I think we need to find 290 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: our little damn lega, our Dame Megat tax and older 291 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: them in which we got already and get from a 292 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: little fair fair for us. Even Nara was one thing 293 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: real quick. You don't need David Megat. Se Kwan Barkley 294 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: is your third down back. If anything, you want to 295 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: add somebody to maybe do some of the first and 296 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: second down work. He's an excellent receiver. You want him 297 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: on the field on third down. So if you want 298 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: to pair him with somebody, that's fine. But I would 299 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: never take se Kwan off Barkley off the field in 300 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: passing situations. He's far too dynamic. Yeah, yeah, that's what 301 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, give him a little breathe, like a 302 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: little you know, another little bag. Get to give him 303 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: a breathe. Well, yeah, you gotta remember one thing. And 304 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: thanks for the calling, my friend. But but I think again, 305 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: we keep repeating ourselves. But the truth is the truth. 306 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley, and I've said this john Less, God forbid, 307 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: he's injured. You know why even saying things like that, 308 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: you're doing exactly. You're talking about a guy. He's a 309 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: potential Hall of Famer. Okay, But having said that, here 310 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: is this stud running back. Yet the Giants have lacked 311 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: a running game. Se Kwan Barkley has more negative yard 312 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: rushes than anybody in the league, and and a lot 313 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: of it. The passes, the little outpasses to him haven't 314 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: gone for anything that's not Quan that's you know, this 315 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: is why Jaman Brown is one of the reasons they 316 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: got him. I mean, the offensive line needs to be 317 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: improved all the way around. Yeah. Absolutely. And I'm bringing 318 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: up the number here because Tom Rock had it in 319 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: his story over the weekend and I thought it was 320 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: an excellent stat and and it kind of vibes to 321 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: what you were talking about russa in in terms of 322 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: s Kwon Barkley, and you look at his numbers, you know, 323 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: the guys on pace to have two thousand yards of 324 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: two thousand yards total scrimmage yards. I mean, he's gonna 325 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: have a thousand yards receiving thousand yards rushing if he 326 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: continues on this pace. But if you take his carries 327 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: this year, his seven longest rushes have gone for two 328 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: hundred sixty six yards. His other one hundred and four 329 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: have gone for two hundred and fifty. You can't sustain 330 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: drives that way. Yeah, you'll make a couple of big plays. 331 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: We've got a couple of touchdowns that way. But if 332 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: you're constantly in second and nine and second and tendant, 333 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: second and eleven with this offensive lying pass protecting the 334 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: way it is, you know how much of a chance 335 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: you know? Um, I don't know if you had a chance. 336 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: Jeff and I were talking about it yesterday. I don't 337 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: know if you had a chance to watch the Ramp 338 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: Saints game this week. I did. It was great game. 339 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: Did you catch that remark? I'll bet you did unless 340 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: you were busy playing with the baby. But Troy Aikman 341 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: brought out a point and they showed it on the 342 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: screen like and stop motion. He was talking about. You know, 343 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: if there is one thing that Drew Brees had gotten 344 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: criticized over the years or viewed as a negative, was 345 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: his height, his size. So he showed something. He showed 346 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,239 Speaker 1: the past protection he was getting. Not only were there 347 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: no rams near him, but the lanes were wide open 348 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: and and Troy Aikman said, Drew Brees could have been 349 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: forget five eleven, he could have been five ft tall. 350 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: That's what happens when you have an offensive line that's 351 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: taking care of business for you, and they might have 352 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: the best offense this year. But that's a significant, significant thing. 353 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: You know. People always they're just talking about Eli, and 354 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: it's because it's Eli and the passing game they forget. Like, 355 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: what was that number you said about the running the 356 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: Russian His seven longest rushes have gone for two hundred 357 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: sixty six yards, seven longest to sixties six and his 358 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: other one hundred and four have gone for two hundred 359 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: and fifty three, which is about two and a half 360 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: yards per cary. Think about that. And most of those 361 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: those seven long ones, uh, they were on his own. 362 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, he made chicken salad out of chicken fertilize. 363 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: You know what. Most of those short ones are on 364 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: his own too. Yeah, that's that happens to be a 365 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: very good point because there were a lot of times 366 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: he was hit behind the line of scrimmage and instead 367 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: of it being negative, even though he has so many, 368 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: so many of those negative rushes, he make something out 369 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: of it. Instead of being negative too. It will be one, yeah, 370 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: no question about it. That's you know, people forget that. 371 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: And again this is not piling on the offensive line, 372 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: but that's a discussion that it just seems to be people. 373 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: You know, here we are eight games into the season, 374 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: We're going into the Giants ninth game Monday night. And 375 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, as much as we've heard complaints here, I 376 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: know John's heard that, I've heard it. All the other 377 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: hosts have heard it that you know, talks about the 378 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: offensive line. Our friend Charlie and Portland Maine certainly calls 379 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: us to talk about it. Friend is very very very 380 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: casually used there. But but but you know, really, folks, 381 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: it's it's a situation that is there, and it's not 382 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: just the passing game, you know. You know, he also 383 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: brought up a point, um uh, somebody brought it up 384 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: about Solder is not playing any different really then he 385 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: played in New England. The differences and I don't know 386 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: if it was eight somebody brought it up, the differences. 387 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: Brady was able to step up, and great point. You 388 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: can step up. He was able to step up with 389 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 1: the Patriots, but he can't step up here because when 390 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: you step when he's trying. When Elis tried to step 391 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: up with the Giants, it's been clogged. There's been no 392 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: place to step up to believe it or not. I 393 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: know people you know and Pro Football Focus does their 394 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: grading with some of these players, and take it with 395 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: the grain assault Obviously they don't know the playbook and 396 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: you don't take them for you know, golden role. This 397 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: is what it is. But his grade from them this 398 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: year is basically identical to what his grade has been 399 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: with the Patriots. It's about the same. So look, I'm 400 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: not telling you he's playing like an all prole, but 401 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: we knew that when he came here. He had never 402 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: made a Pro Bowl with the Patriots, so you know 403 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: what you were getting, and you're right. The fact that 404 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: Eli is not able to step up and move to 405 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: other portions of the pocket because the depth of the 406 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: pocket is not being you know, sustained by the guards 407 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: in the center. It makes things difficult for the tackles too. 408 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: Two oh one four or five one three is the 409 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: number again. Gotta remind all of you wonderful folks out 410 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: there that big Blue Kickoff Live here is presented to 411 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: you by cores Light. Download the cores, light rewards, app 412 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: to win yourself amazing Giants prizes throughout the season. Um, 413 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: I want one thing that I took away from the 414 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: locker room yesterday. You know quite frankly, John, I've felt 415 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: that way throughout this season and the guys, you know, 416 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: it is not a negative locker room. And when I 417 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: say it's not a negative locker room, it's not like 418 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: these guys, well they're just going cavalier. They don't care 419 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: about the losses. Trust me, they care about the losses. 420 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: But I just think it's not like last year. Guys 421 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: aren't sitting ground in corners and factions. Uh, you know, 422 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: no one's getting suspended. Everyone showed up after the bye week, 423 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: which is good. No, but but but really there's been 424 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: no uh you know, there has been finger pointing. Everybody 425 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: has been They're trying, they're trying to get stuff fixed. 426 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: Is their frustration you at top to bottom throughout the organization, 427 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: including people sitting here and you people sitting out there. 428 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: That comes with the territory. Nobody likes to lose. But 429 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: look one and seven. You know, as ourselves would say, 430 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: you're you are what your record says you are. No 431 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: one's running front of me. Yeah no, but but it's 432 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: there's only one place to go for them is up, 433 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, and that's you know, to me, he's got 434 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: to start Monday night. Yeah, Russ, It's funny, you know. 435 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: I've watched them forty Niners this week, you know, heading 436 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: into the game, and they're better than their record would indicate. 437 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: Their only two and seven. They haven't had their bye 438 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: week yet. And one number that jumps out for me 439 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: this year on the season, the forty Niners are minus 440 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: thirteen internal ratio. Only one team is worse than minus fifteen. 441 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: That's the Temp Bay Buccaneers. So they've had thirteen more 442 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: giveaways than they've had takeaways this year. Their offenses right 443 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: higher than the Giants yardage wise, their defenses right higher 444 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: than the Giants yardage wise. They're big buggaboo this year 445 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: has been their turnovers. So that's something that's gonna be 446 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: really important for the Giants on Monday. They have to 447 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: protect the ball and they got to take the ball 448 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: away from the forty Niners. Both these teams are have 449 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: similar issues in that way. The Giants are minus four 450 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: this year, I believe, So that's a big deal for 451 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: this game. You need to force the Niners into mistakes, 452 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: because if they play a clean game, they're not a 453 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: bad football team despite their record. Well, you know, Pat 454 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: Sherman said something yesterday. Uh, I don't know exactly, but 455 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm paraphrase and something in the effect of give us 456 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: one more touchdown each game, and the record is far 457 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,239 Speaker 1: more different than one and seven. You know, could very 458 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: well be four and three. I mean, and you know, 459 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: just to say, well, you can say that about anybody, 460 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: but think about all the times in the red zone 461 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: when you're coming up empty. I mean, think about that 462 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: if you just go half the time. So it's what's 463 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: the expense you gotta finish? You know, that's been a problem, 464 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: you know, all season long. And you know what, how 465 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: about this, I was thinking we would think about this. Yesterday, 466 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: they go down to Houston, they beat the Texans. ELI 467 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: has a great game nine two nineties something yards and 468 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: two t ds. Since they beat the Texans in Houston, 469 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: the Texans haven't lost. They go to Carolina, they lose 470 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: on a sixty three yard field goal, and Carolina has 471 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: been you know, a red hot team since then. Yeah, 472 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: they look one of the best teams in the conference. 473 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: So I mean it's crazy. You know, um, you should have, 474 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: would have, could have, doesn't mean a hill of beans. 475 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: The record is you are what your record says you are. 476 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: There are one and seven. But you look at a 477 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: situation and it's not easy. You're not difficult to say that. 478 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 1: You know, things could be a little different if they 479 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: had any kind of good fortune. I mean, it's been 480 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: the head scratch are going back to last season. You're 481 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: losing on a what was it a sixty one yard 482 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: field going yeah, Elliott, by Elliot, you're losing a sixty 483 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: three I mean, and it wasn't just like with twenty seconds, 484 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: it was with the bagger in the heart at the buzzer, 485 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, really just uh, neither gain. They have not 486 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: caught any breaks this year. Uh, there's no question about 487 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: And that happens in the NFL, and some teams are 488 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: good enough to overcome some of those things. And right 489 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: now where the Giants are, they're not. You know, they 490 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: don't have the roster and everything else going their way 491 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: to overcome those types of mistakes. And that I think 492 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: Russ kind of goes back to what's been happening on offense. 493 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: To aside from the red zone issues, which like you mentioned, 494 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: are prevalent. They're moving the ball, they've been okay the 495 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: last few years, they just can't get the ball in 496 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: the end zone. The other problem you have is is 497 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: overall negative plays. You mentioned the negative plays in the 498 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: rushing game, well, throwing the penalties on offense and then 499 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: throwing the manning sacks. And the Giants I believe have 500 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: the third most total negative plays in football. They have 501 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: the second most negative yardage in football over the course 502 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: of the year. And much like we talked about before, 503 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: that's gonna put you in a bunch of second along, 504 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna put you a bunch of third and long. 505 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: And it's very difficult for a team like this coming 506 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: off a three and thirteen season that's churned over probably 507 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: over six by now of their roster. It's hard to 508 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: overcome that sort of stuff. It just is. And the 509 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: Giants have to clean that stuff up, and it starts 510 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: up front. But look, it's on everybody, and Russ I've 511 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: been saying this on on the show because we'ven been together. 512 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: But when you're one in seven, everyone's in the Foxhol together. 513 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: The players are in the Foxhol, coaches in the Foxhol, 514 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: the g ms in the Foxhol, the trainers are in 515 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: the Foxhol, strengthening conditions in the Foxhel. Everyone's in it together. 516 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: You don't get to one in seven because only one 517 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: part of what's going on is a problem. Everything is 518 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: a problem, and everyone's working together to try to fix it. 519 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just looking at um Ellies his completion rate. 520 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: I just lost it. Second best of his career. It's 521 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: right now, it's the best of his career. Now. I 522 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: I know the nay sayers gonna say, oh, yeah, come on, 523 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: but it is. It is the right now, it's the 524 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: best of his career. At sixty eight point three, he's 525 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: got twenty three in seventy seven yards. Let's let's go back. 526 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: Let me give you some of the games this season 527 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: of his yardage. Okay to seven to fifty five six. Now, 528 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: some of that does come at the end of games 529 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: when his to score games, and that's fair. But you 530 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: can say that about everybody that that is fair. But 531 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: we're talking about I mean, really, when you look at it, 532 00:27:54,080 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: you know there's enough there if if given a little 533 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: bit of help, the fortunes of this team could be 534 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: a lot different. Yeah, then throw in the aspect of 535 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: of what John was talking about, those those are staggering. 536 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: That's a staggering, uh statistics. Seven his seven longest yards 537 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: were for a total say Quean two sixty six, the 538 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: hundred and four, the other hundred and four, two hundred 539 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: and fifty three yards. I mean, that's that's mind boggling. 540 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: It's not good. And this is a guy who has 541 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: overcome and you know, done better than any expectations you 542 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: might have had for him. And he a prety high 543 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: expectation for second overall pick. But he's been as good, 544 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: if not better than advertised. But like everybody, look, you 545 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: mentioned it before, football is a it's the biggest team 546 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: game there is. You know, Baseball players can go up 547 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: there they have their individual batting average, home runs or 548 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: one on one with the picture and in a lot 549 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: of ways, it's a one on one sport in the 550 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: you know, cocoon of a team can take over absolutely 551 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: and there's only five guys on the floor once, right, So, 552 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: but the NFL is different. Ten guys on the field 553 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: at the same time can all do the right thing. 554 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: If one guy screws up, the whole thing goes to hell. 555 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: So it's what. It's one of those things where small 556 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: things here there can really have a larger effect on 557 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: what's going on. Um, and that's why there isn't a 558 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: silver bullet solution and there's no Well if you change 559 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: a everything's gonna be fun. You change one guy, that'll 560 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: be okay. And Pat Schremer said that it was either 561 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: right after the by going into the Bybrus he was 562 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: asked about, um, you know, how do you fix this? 563 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: And he goes, well, guys, if there was one thing 564 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: to fix, I want to fix that back in week three. 565 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: It's not that simple. It's it's a lot more complex 566 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: than that they seen. That's a good point and that 567 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: also points to Jiman Brown. I don't want to put 568 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: all kinds of pressure on Jaman Brown. But Pat Shermer, 569 00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, I had a chance to chat with him 570 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: a bit it afterwards, uh after the locker room, you know, 571 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: we were in into each other and he seemed extremely excited, 572 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: as was Dave Getleman about Brown joining the team. They 573 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: just feel he's not just a big guy. He's not 574 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: not just a big body. They feel he's a player 575 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: and a player that can help and listen that that 576 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: has been a glaring problem. We're talking about Eli Manning, 577 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: were talking about Sa Kwan Barkley, we're talking about negative 578 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: you odd rush's, we're talking about in the failures in 579 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: the red zone. It all adds up to a point 580 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: of concern that needs to be corrected. We've had certainly 581 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: had enough calls, I know, so so hopefully, hopefully it 582 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: can get corrected. I want to see Evan Ingram had 583 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: a big second half. Well you know what, I'm glad 584 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: you brought that up because we know he's been hurt 585 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: and he missed three games. He missed three games, but um, 586 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: he's got to play better. Yeah, he can't at the drops. 587 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: He has a higher drop rate than last year, believe 588 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: it or not. I think it's something twelve percent verse 589 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: ten percent. And look, they have not been able to 590 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: get him down the field. He's quote a bunch of 591 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: short passes. Run him down the scene, you know, let 592 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: him use his athleticism, speed, his height to to bring 593 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: some attention away from Barkley, from Shepard, from from from Beckham. 594 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: We just haven't seen him get utilized in that way yet. 595 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: And I think if they can figure out a way 596 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: to get him out there, and I don't they have 597 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: to use him to protect some times to help out 598 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: the offensive one. I get it, but he's too good 599 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: of an athlete not to be a bigger part of 600 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: this offense. He's also well, let me ask you a question. Sure, 601 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: do you think that has something to do with the 602 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: way he's utilized. You know, he's not your prototypical tight end. No, 603 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: he's more of a receiver. He's more of a or 604 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: what what you know? A lot of time, it's a 605 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: lot of times, and the term is used in basketball. 606 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: He's a tweener. They don't know if he's a swing 607 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: man of forward, a guard. I I call him a tweener, 608 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: but he's more of a pass catcher than a tight end. Yeah, 609 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: but I think the way the Giants with red Ellison 610 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,959 Speaker 1: as your more traditional tight end, and you could run 611 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: them both out there at the same time. And it's 612 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: not like the Giants have a slot receiver or number 613 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: three receiver that's you know, burning the world down here. 614 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: You know, after Beckham and Shepherd, they've basically just been 615 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: sliding guys in and out based on injuries. Russell Shepherd, 616 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: Cody Latimer, Benny Fowler. Was there a couple of weeks ago. 617 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be kind of interesting to see 618 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: how Corey Coleman gets you. Yeah, and I think and 619 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: that he's a guy now has been here a couple 620 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: of weeks with the buy. Maybe he could figure things out. 621 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: But there's no reason Ingram shouldn't be that third guy. 622 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: I don't care if he's a receiver or tight end. 623 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: He should be that third guy. And I know Barkley's 624 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: obviously in the mix two he might be the second guy. Actually, 625 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: it's funny enough with his fifty catches, but Ingram should 626 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: be in that mix. And I think he can stretch 627 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: the field a little bit, and you know, you can 628 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: get that tight end down that seam without the quarterback 629 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: having to hold the ball a long time either. You know, 630 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: it's not like he's gont run a double moving things 631 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: like that. Just haven't run straight down the field and 632 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: then let the zone adjust to him. And that can 633 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: get teams out of some of those zone defenses that 634 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: I think had given the offense some issues. Two oh 635 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: one four or five one three the number again. Gotta 636 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: remind all of you wonderful people out there. Big Blue 637 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: Kickoff Live here presented to you by Corps Light down 638 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: Load the Course Light Rewards after win yourself Amazing Giants 639 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: prizes throughout this two thousand and eighteen campaign. Let's go, 640 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: let's stay local in Jersey, check in with has has. 641 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: How you doing to that You're on with Russ and John? 642 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: All right? What are you doing Fells Time? New Year? 643 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: In a while? I want to talk about the offensive lawn, John, 644 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: you know to do about this? And the thing about 645 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: what I've seen is in the beginning, when we first 646 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: had the draft, I believe we blew it, not by 647 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: not taking sake Juan Barkley, because that was a great pick, 648 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: but after her Nandez, we didn't pick up any more 649 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: offensive linemen, and we should have. We should have stopped 650 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: piled as a much picks that we had offensive line 651 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: and centers, guards, whatever they were, just so that we 652 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: can have them. And I think that that was the 653 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: mistake that we need not addressing that um fully. And 654 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, picking up the defensive player was great, and 655 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: I have no problem with that. But the problem is 656 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: that the reason why ELI is getting bad so much 657 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: is because the offensive line is so terrible that they 658 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: can't even block a stone sitting in front of them, 659 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: and that's bad. These are professional football players who get 660 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: paid to play, and your technique is supposed to hold 661 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: up against other professional players, and when they do not, 662 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: the quota back gets to blame. And it's not all 663 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: Eli's fall. He has held the ball a little bit 664 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: longer than what he did last year. But I'm just 665 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 1: saying if we would, if we wouldn't addressed the offensive lines, 666 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: then we wouldn't necessarily be having these problems right now. 667 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: But here's the yeah, well one thing, yeah, because one 668 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: thing real quick, you know, once you got past that 669 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 1: second round, I'm not sure there are any starting caliber 670 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: plug and play lineman left. Yeah that in the fourth, 671 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: in the fourth or fifth round, maybe you could have 672 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: drafted guy like Jamarco Jones out of Ohio State who 673 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: kind of dropped a little bit, but he hasn't really 674 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: played yet this year. I don't know how good he 675 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: really is. Uh. Tyroll Crosby out of Oregon another guy 676 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: who dropped in the draft, but he had some foot 677 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: issues which kind of is what pushed him down the 678 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: draft boards with people. Um, those are the only two 679 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 1: guys that were available late at tackle that I think 680 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: maybe could have helped down the road. But honestly, when 681 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: me and Paul did our show on Day two of 682 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: the draft and we looked at who was available in 683 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: the third round aside from those two tackles, and both 684 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: guys end up being available in the fifth, So obviously 685 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: you don't want to pick him in the third. Um, 686 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: there weren't any other offensive lineman where I said, you 687 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: know what, I need to have this guy. The Frank 688 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: Ragnows were gone, the Billy Prices were gone. You know, 689 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: all those guys that you thought you could play right 690 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: away weren't on the board anymore. Because offensive line has 691 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: become such a position to scar see in the league 692 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 1: that teams now hit these guys high. So, UM, I 693 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: don't think once you got past that second round there 694 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: was somebody there. And I don't want to give back 695 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 1: b J Hill and Lorenzo Quarter either, by those guys 696 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: look like they're gonna be pretty good players. I don't 697 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: think there was anyone there that would have helped now. Now, 698 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: maybe in two or three years when you're gonna pick 699 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: in the third, fourth and fifth round can help you. Yeah, 700 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: sure that's possible. I'm not gonna argue that. But now, 701 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: solving the Giants problems in two thousand and eighteen. I'm 702 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: not sure those guys are on the board. Yeah, you know, 703 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: has I I think you make a fair point, but 704 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: I think you know, John explained it to you, you know, 705 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: pretty well on the money Listen. Uh, if you wanted 706 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: to stockpile some guys maybe for the future, but think 707 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: about it. Uh, you know, you got Will Hernandez on 708 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 1: the offensive line, he's starting. So what like you're saying, 709 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 1: if they if they would have drafted differently this past 710 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: draft and would have helped this season, and they wouldn't 711 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: be in this predicament. So you're saying, I don't want 712 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: to put words in your mouth, but basically the suggestion 713 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: is you've got Will Hernandez and then then you're gonna 714 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: have lower round draft picks where you have to do 715 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: in three rookies, especially lower round guys all on the 716 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: line together. Well well, well, my my my point would 717 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: be is that even though we got Will Hernandez in 718 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: the second round, we still would be able to power 719 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: or get some paper offensive linemen because the ones that 720 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: we had a very good. So if you have whether 721 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 1: you get in the supplement draft or whether you get 722 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: a free egy, whatever it was, bring in a wholest 723 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: linement then you can so you can work them out. 724 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: And knowing that Eric Flowers was already he was a 725 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: bust okay, he wasn't effisient enough on Brent Jones. They 726 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: let him go. What I don't agree with, but I understand, 727 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 1: and you know how appeal he had just clean in 728 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: so you really didn't know. So I'm just saying, gave 729 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: us an our falls, an opportunity and not limit our hands, 730 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean as far as as far 731 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 1: as the way we had to play. So but I 732 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: think Jaman Brown and I'm just gonna hang up with this. 733 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 1: I think Jaman Brown is a great pick up because 734 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: watch how the pocket mound if once they start to 735 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: get in sync, how how it will be able to 736 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: to have it and opened up some thanks. I appreciate, 737 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: all right, has thank you. I understand where Hawses coming from, 738 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: but I don't totally agree simply because you touched on 739 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: it before. When you know when Halapio went down that 740 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: that I don't listen. I'm not saying he is bard 741 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,760 Speaker 1: oats Okay, I'm not saying he's He's was a budding 742 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, but they put a lot of stock 743 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: in him. They had so much faith in him. They 744 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: traded Brett Jones and they had Greco there too, they 745 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: thought could be depth at that position. Yeah. Well but 746 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: but Greco was there for exactly for what he did. 747 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: He was a backup. So but Halapia goes down, that 748 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: screwed things up because now the guy you had as 749 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: a backup now needed to be your starter. And I 750 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: think the point I want to make the Hawes too 751 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: is Hawes, I think they did what you wanted them 752 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: to do, maybe just not the way you wanted them 753 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,919 Speaker 1: to do it. They had und acted free agent Evan 754 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: Brown Um, who's still here, I believe on thee it's 755 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: on the active roster, right Dave Evan Brown have not 756 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: mistake and I think he is right. And they have 757 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: a couple of guys on the practice squad. They had 758 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 1: a bunch alignment in here in the spring and the 759 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: summer competing. I mean they did not bring back players 760 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: from last year. Their only returning players are Flowers Um 761 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: and then John Jerry, who both eventually got cut, and 762 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 1: the two centers Halapio and Brett Jones, and then Chad 763 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: Wheeler who barely played last year. So they did bring 764 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: in a slew of new guys. I mean, at the 765 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 1: start of the year, Russ not one guy was starting 766 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: in the same position they were the year before, and 767 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: four guys were brand new. The only guy that was 768 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: still there was Flowers, and he was on the right 769 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: side instead of the left. So to me, they did 770 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: try to completely overhaul this thing. Now, the results aren't 771 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: what you want, and it's you're more than fair to 772 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: criticize that, and we're not gonna argue with you, but 773 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: they certainly tried to overhaul this thing as much as 774 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: they can in one here. But remember, guys, it's hard 775 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: to fix an offensive line in one off season. It's 776 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: just too hard to do. There aren't a bunch of 777 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 1: good offensive lineman floating around ready to be picked up 778 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: for low cost. They just don't exist anymore. You know, folks, 779 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: I think you know. The Giants didn't go out and 780 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:21,399 Speaker 1: tell you or myself or John here or anybody else 781 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: who sits here. The Giants didn't say everything is fixed, 782 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: We're all good. A lot of people, fans and media 783 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: all felt, well, you know what, this is a potential 784 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: playoff team. Well, you know how many times has a 785 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: three and thirteen team, A three and thirteen team been 786 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 1: penciled in as a possible playoff team the following season. 787 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that happens too frequently. I can't tell 788 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: your us how many people got mad at me when 789 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: I said during the off season that they went a 790 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 1: night that would be a good improvement, and people like 791 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: that's not enough. You know. I hold on to usually 792 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 1: the you know from the newspapers, in particular the Post 793 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 1: and the Daily News, the the preseason previews and the picks. No, 794 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: but think about it the year before, going into last season. 795 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: Going into last season, I mean ten and six, nine 796 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,839 Speaker 1: and seven playoff team, YadA, YadA, YadA. I pulled out 797 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: going into this season, I couldn't find the Daily News 798 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: when I found the Post. You know what, the Giants 799 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: as nine and seven. Now the Giant organization, Dave Gettleman 800 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: and and and Shermer didn't say we're gonna be nine 801 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: and seven. This is you know, the media. So you know, 802 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people decided this was going to be 803 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: a playoff team. I mean three and thirteen, you know, 804 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: eight and Nate, think about that, that would have been 805 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 1: a major improvement. Yeah. Now obviously it's gonna be real 806 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: hard to get there from seven. So I mean, odds 807 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,240 Speaker 1: are that's not gonna happen. But like you said, a couple, 808 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: you know, bounces of the ball here or there. Maybe 809 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 1: there are three and four in stead and one in 810 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: seven or three and five. What if the kids might 811 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: be even if it was three and five then and 812 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: eight you're saying, you know, what a little balance you 813 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: think about it, But three and thirteen people had daffodils 814 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: dancing in their head. Three and thirteen, you're gonna go 815 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,879 Speaker 1: right away, and all of a sudden you're gonna become 816 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: a playoff team. Now, I'm not gonna lie to you. 817 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: One and seven is shocking to me. I would think 818 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: it is to you. None of us would see that coming. 819 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,359 Speaker 1: And my prediction was consistent before the year of Russ. 820 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: I said, if the Giants are sitting there and they're 821 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 1: playing in a meaningful football game, in that game against 822 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 1: the Redskins the second week in December, that means you 823 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: had yourself a pretty good year, because that means you're 824 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: in the mix for a wild card spot of the division. 825 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,919 Speaker 1: Maybe you're a couple of games back and if you're 826 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: in a meaningful game in that you know, second or 827 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: third week at the December and you're still playing for 828 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: something coming off three or thirteen, you can't give yourself 829 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: a better opportunity than that. No, I mean, well let's 830 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: see that is Yeah, you got Frisco Tampa Bay Philly. Yeah, 831 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: you know, you're right, Yeah, that that was a good 832 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 1: way to look. If you're in the mix on December 833 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,280 Speaker 1: ninth with four games to play, all three and thirteen, 834 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: I'll take it. And you know what, maybe you get hot, 835 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: maybe you win a couple of those games, you managed 836 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 1: to squeak in and if you don't, you don't. But 837 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 1: that's not a bad position to be it Now, they're 838 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: obviously not in that position. No, it's but again, none 839 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: of us would see one and seven. But again I 840 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 1: didn't see things like a fifty six yeard field goal 841 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: is time running out and you know some of that 842 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: stuff as well. Also, you know, I hate to go 843 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: back to like last year, oh, the collapse last year, 844 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: and you know we all know the whole drama and 845 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 1: everything from last season, but um, remember the game. You 846 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: didn't lose one, you didn't lose two, you lost three. 847 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: Wide receiver is what what was it broken legs or yea, 848 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 1: the entire receiving. That's why last year was different than 849 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 1: this year. You know, last year started poorly, but then 850 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 1: everybody got hurt. So once you got to the second 851 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: half of the season, you're playing guys off the street everywhere. 852 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: It was a disaster. It was one step above sand 853 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 1: Lod football. Yeah. I mean you were playing guys that 854 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: have met each other like three days before in the 855 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: locker room, so that was different. You haven't while you've 856 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: had some injuries like Hallapeo for example, it has not 857 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 1: been a plague like it was last year with all 858 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: your best players being out. So that's why I think 859 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: one and seven, at least for me, is a little 860 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: more disappointing because a lot of the guys are out there. 861 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 1: But that's also why I think if you do a 862 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: couple of these things better, like red zone offense, like 863 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: converting on third and long little bit better being in 864 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: third and manageable a lot more, you can still win. 865 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: You know, maybe maybe you can go five dred at 866 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: the wrestler. Maybe you can go four and four, you know, 867 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 1: and and do your best and try to get as 868 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: many wins as you can. And I think this team 869 00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,320 Speaker 1: is far more capable of winning games in the member 870 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 1: in December then the mash unit that was left on 871 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 1: the field for the final two months of the year 872 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, I think for them to do that, 873 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: they just gotta I gotta play that well, you gotta 874 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: play better, and you gotta feel good about yourself. And 875 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,280 Speaker 1: how do you start feeling good about yourself? But getting 876 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 1: a couple what is it, vitamin W getting a couple 877 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: of w's. I mean, listen, they're playing Frisco in Frisco 878 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: and then they're home to Tampa Bay winnable games. Let's 879 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: say let's say you won two games, well, then you're 880 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: going into Philadelphia on November feeling good about yourself as 881 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: opposed to like waways me because if you lost the 882 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: up two upcoming games, well then who the hell knows 883 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. Okay, we don't don't even want to 884 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 1: think that, but yeah, then then you're going into and 885 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 1: then you know, as as Pat Shermer said yesterday when 886 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: he spoke told us, you know, he spoke to Eli, 887 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,320 Speaker 1: he told every body, the media, you can roll it 888 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 1: at any which way you want. Know. The game plan 889 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 1: is I spoke with Eli, everybody. We all got to 890 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: play better. But the game plan is, we believe in 891 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: you Eli. We're gonna support you, Eli, And the game 892 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: plan is for Eli and the Giants to win games. 893 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 1: And that decision is going to take care of itself. Yeah, 894 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: and then you get that stretch of four games which 895 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: have some bittable matchups. You got the Bears, who are 896 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: a good team, but they're not unbeatable, especially if you 897 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 1: got them on their home field. The Redskins now are 898 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 1: an absolute mess ross in terms of their injuries on 899 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,359 Speaker 1: their offensive line, so that their left tackle, both their 900 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 1: guards are gonna be out for a long time. We 901 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: know about their injuries for Chris Thompson, James and crowd 902 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 1: of their receivers, So who knows what they're going to 903 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 1: be at that point. And then you're home to Tennessee 904 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 1: and they're not very good. You go on the road 905 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 1: to India, they're not great, and then your home December Dallas, 906 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 1: who might have a fired coach on their hands by 907 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 1: then who knows, Yeah, who knows? Who knows? It's right? 908 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: So I mean it's well, the NFC East is that 909 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: nine wins so all you need maybe eight in this 910 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: crazy season. That could very well be the case. And 911 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: a wild card ain't coming out of the NFC. No, 912 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean that that would make for a wild situation. 913 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: By the way, we're talking about Evan Brown. Evan is 914 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: active on a roster, but he has been inactive every 915 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: game thus far this season. Two h one four five 916 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: one three is the number getting folks. Gotta remind all 917 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: of you that Big Blue Kickoff Live here is presented 918 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: by Corps Light, So download the cores Light Rewards app 919 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 1: to win yourself amazing Giants prizes throughout the season. So 920 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,359 Speaker 1: what else jumped out of you rust on the bye 921 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,799 Speaker 1: week watching football over the weekend without the Giants? Um, 922 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: what jumped out at me? I'll tell you what jumped 923 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 1: out of me. If if we're just gonna digress a 924 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: little bit from the Giants in a losing effort, what 925 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: jumped out at me is the Los Angeles Rams are 926 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 1: really really good. So the same both, no not, I'm 927 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 1: not without question, and you know it was you know, uh, 928 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 1: Drew Brees was a little motivated I think with the 929 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 1: Rams coming in and you know what will show you. 930 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 1: But let me tell you what the Rams. We're getting 931 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: blown out. They were getting blown out, and not only 932 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 1: did they come back, they came back with a fury, 933 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: they tied the end. They tied the game. Uh, it 934 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,959 Speaker 1: was terrific the way it was a fun game to watch. 935 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 1: You know what. The most fun about that game was 936 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 1: not being a fan of either team, where you can 937 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 1: just sit back and enjoy the game. I mean sometimes 938 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 1: those are just fun, Like you get done with your 939 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 1: giants and I'm not sitting on the edge of the seat. 940 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm not making notes. Let me just sit back and watch. 941 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: And that's how I watched that game. But the Rams 942 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: came roaring back. Now they answered, Uh to the Saints credit, 943 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: but you know a score. That was a nail biter. 944 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 1: That was a hell of a football break game. And 945 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 1: it just showed me. I was on the phone with 946 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,400 Speaker 1: the buddy after the game. It says they passed the 947 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,880 Speaker 1: acid test, not that they didn't earlier in the season. 948 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 1: You know they were eight no, but to get to 949 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: that juncture and in that game, and you know, they 950 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: weren't at home where they came back. They were in 951 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: New Orleans coming back, and they came back with a vengeance. 952 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,320 Speaker 1: I was very impressed. I will be shocked. Well, to me, 953 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 1: that's your NFC. Uh, well, that's my second question. Do 954 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 1: you give any other team in the NFC Vikings Panthers, 955 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: a team from the NFC North to give any the Eagles? 956 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 1: Do you give anybody else a chance against those two 957 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 1: teams and you put anybody near their level at this well, 958 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 1: I think those are the two best teams. But when 959 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: you start not giving anybody a chance like that's when 960 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,959 Speaker 1: it bites you on a rear like the former Super 961 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: Bowl champions. Sure that that's exactly right. I I listen, 962 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 1: you want to know what if the Eagles get into 963 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 1: the playoffs. I'm not ruling out the Eagles. How can 964 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: you with that pass rush? Don't And there's still the champs, okay, 965 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: until they thrown them, they're they're alive in there. And 966 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 1: you know again, listen, we've hello, here's your giant's helmets. 967 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 1: Nine and seven, ten and six is whatever it was, 968 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,839 Speaker 1: wild cards? You know, winning four games on the road, 969 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,399 Speaker 1: come on, you know? So to me, uh, it's who 970 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: gets out at the time. But clearly I think those 971 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,240 Speaker 1: are the two best. But I'm not ring out anybody 972 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 1: else now. The in the well obviously the Chiefs. They're fun, 973 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 1: They're they're really fun to watch. Now and listen, I 974 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 1: love um Mahomes. I think the kid is he's a 975 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,399 Speaker 1: video game, just just electric to watch. Speaking of video games, though, 976 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean and like some of that yardage. I'm not 977 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 1: taking anything away from I think he's your m v 978 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: P thus far. But having said that, I mean he 979 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: throws a little past bye bye, so long, farewell, seventy 980 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 1: yards and you know adios. Yeah, I mean it's insane. 981 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,720 Speaker 1: So you have the Chiefs, you have obviously Tom Brady 982 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 1: and the uh Tom Brady and the Patriots. I'll tell 983 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 1: you a team to watch. Chargers. I like them too. 984 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that, really really good. I think 985 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:40,680 Speaker 1: they got, you know, some defense, they got some great receivers, 986 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 1: and you know what, they can get Joey Bosa back. 987 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,840 Speaker 1: That would help a lot to get Bosa back. And 988 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 1: you know what, Philip Rivers as yet to win a 989 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And that's not his fault either, No, no, no, 990 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:54,920 Speaker 1: but but I'm saying, yeah, but you know, you always 991 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 1: talk about you know, Eli is not on an island 992 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 1: here sending with Philip Rivers. That guy's he's he's a 993 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame level court back, but he just hasn't 994 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 1: had the help he's needed over the last ten years 995 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 1: to get there. You know what? Um again, I know 996 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 1: if I mentioned it before. I was talking with Ernie 997 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 1: of Corsi UH a couple of weeks ago, and I 998 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 1: asked Ernie about, you know, when you're picking a quarterback 999 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,399 Speaker 1: or you're acquiring a quarterback, signing one, whatever the case, 1000 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 1: maybe what's the mindset? And the mindset is can the 1001 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 1: guy deliver the super Bowl? Can he delivered the Super Bowl? Uh? 1002 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 1: Can he deliver when the game is on the line 1003 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 1: with two minutes to go? That's the situation. And you 1004 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 1: know what. You know what Ernie said to me when 1005 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,919 Speaker 1: they made their last drive in Confluence first Super Bowl. 1006 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 1: He said he was sitting with his son and he 1007 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 1: looked at his son on the Giants last drive and said, 1008 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 1: this is why. This is why we got Eli Manning. 1009 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 1: And now we're gonna find out if the reason gets answered. Yeah, 1010 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:03,799 Speaker 1: And you know the funny here's the funny thing, Rus. 1011 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,240 Speaker 1: I think all three of those quarterbacks wound up exactly 1012 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 1: where they needed to be. I don't know if Roethlisberger 1013 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 1: could have survived in New York. I don't know if 1014 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers could have survived in New York. And I 1015 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 1: think this was the perfect place for Eli. I think 1016 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh was the perfect place for Roethlisberger in terms of 1017 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 1: the town and the atmosphere. And I think Rivers got 1018 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 1: where he needed to go in San Diego. I think 1019 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 1: the guys wound up where they needed to go. Um. 1020 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 1: Obviously two of the guys have WONND up with Super Bowls, 1021 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 1: and Roethlisberger and Manning. Rivers hasn't UM. But I always 1022 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 1: remember Philip Rivers when we played through that he played 1023 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 1: an ANFC Championship game against the Patriots with a torn 1024 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 1: a CM. But that that was a that was I 1025 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 1: used this word very carefully. That was a heroic performance. 1026 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 1: Heroic You know what you bring up something that it's 1027 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 1: a very interesting point. They ended up where they were 1028 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 1: supposed to ended up or where they needed to end up. 1029 00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:02,239 Speaker 1: You know, Eli Manning doesn't have that outgoing personality that 1030 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 1: he mind you, Eli can be a very funny guy, 1031 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,880 Speaker 1: very funny, very very funny. But Eli does not have 1032 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 1: that outgoing personality that you see or you saw with 1033 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:19,320 Speaker 1: regularity from big brother Peyton. But Eli's disposition, especially in 1034 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 1: the world we live in now and the last ten years, 1035 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 1: and you know fit well, he's a fifteen but last 1036 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean going through certain things, not everybody can stand 1037 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 1: up to that. Eli. He's been able to stand up 1038 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 1: with and I think having his personality has had a 1039 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 1: lot to do with it. Do you think the Steelers 1040 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: have a shot this year? I think yes. Oh you 1041 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 1: know what, good good point. And you know there's another. 1042 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up the Steelers. There's another point. Now, 1043 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 1: Levian Bell has not been around. Okay, what's the running 1044 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 1: James James conn Okay, I want you to understand something, folks, 1045 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 1: because here's again we're beating it into the ground. So 1046 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 1: be it with offensive line. You know what kind of 1047 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 1: offensive line? The Pittsburgh Steelers have not bad at all. 1048 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 1: They have potentially three Pro bowlers on markets. Pouncing is 1049 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 1: a perennial going away a bit and yea yeah, cash 1050 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,320 Speaker 1: this room, you're talking about three potential, three potential Pro bowlers. 1051 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:29,720 Speaker 1: Not only has what's his name Roethlisberger turned turned it around, 1052 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,760 Speaker 1: but this Connor has been great. Don't you think having 1053 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 1: that great offensive line has something to do with think yeah, absolutely. 1054 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 1: And you know the funny thing though, and almost watching them, 1055 00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,239 Speaker 1: something's missing this year, like they turn it over too much. 1056 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 1: I don't know if Roethlisberger maybe, you know, I was 1057 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 1: waiting to really turn it onto the playoffs this I 1058 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,760 Speaker 1: don't know. There's a native data A nice one against 1059 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 1: the Ravens last week and classic AFC North. You know, 1060 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,319 Speaker 1: that was a very big win, very nice win, wasn't 1061 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,840 Speaker 1: it in Baltimore's it was, yes, I mean that's in 1062 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,799 Speaker 1: Baltimore against the team. You know, everybody was talking about 1063 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,719 Speaker 1: the Ravens. A lot of people think the Ravens have 1064 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,320 Speaker 1: the best defense in the league. It's pretty good. No, no, 1065 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 1: it is. I'm not saying no, but a lot of 1066 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,960 Speaker 1: people view it as the best. So all of a 1067 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,240 Speaker 1: sudden you have that, you know what, I stand corrected? 1068 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: So who the things we mentioned we got the Patriots, 1069 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, Steelers, and well you know what I had mentioned, 1070 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,720 Speaker 1: the charges, the Chiefs and and not necessarily the Chiefs, 1071 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 1: Patriots and charges. I wouldn't throw out the I would 1072 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: throw out the Steelers. You get you know they've been there. 1073 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 1: Of course, guys have been there, So how can you 1074 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: you know dismiss them. I uh uh, listen what we're 1075 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 1: talking about. We're talking about them were no, no, no. 1076 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is we want the Giants to 1077 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,719 Speaker 1: get the number two on Monday Night. I'll tell you what. 1078 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,359 Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of pressure on Andy Reid 1079 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,400 Speaker 1: once he gets to the playoffs. Has they finished like 1080 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,319 Speaker 1: fourteen and two or thirteen and three. You know, he's 1081 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,759 Speaker 1: never been the guy. He's never been the finish that's 1082 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 1: been able to get over the hump. And his game 1083 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:06,320 Speaker 1: planning and his schematics are so like other worldly great, 1084 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 1: but that in game stuff in the postseasons just come 1085 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 1: back to bite him again and again, whether it was 1086 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,480 Speaker 1: in Philly or then in Kansas City. Now, with this 1087 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 1: talent that he's got, I know, their defense isn't very 1088 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 1: good and that could end up being the end of him. 1089 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 1: And if that happened, so be it. That's not Andy 1090 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 1: Reid's fault. But there's a little pressure on him once 1091 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 1: he gets to the playoffs to you know, put a 1092 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 1: couple wins together. Look even lose to the Patriots in 1093 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,600 Speaker 1: the hit Championship game. Is the Patriots Belichickers Brady whatever. 1094 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,360 Speaker 1: But the Chiefs can't come out, get a bye and 1095 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,880 Speaker 1: then go losing the second round. No, No, that would 1096 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 1: be a epic disaster. That's that's an epic disaster for 1097 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,760 Speaker 1: anybody who but given his history, it will make even 1098 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 1: worse for him. It just makes it worse because he 1099 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 1: hasn't been able as as we say, to finish the deal. 1100 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 1: But speaking of finishing the deal, we are finishing the 1101 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 1: deal right now, right here. 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That's the 1111 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 1: day after the Giants hopefully win their second game of 1112 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: the season over the forty nine is in Frisco. Until then, 1113 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 1: Bye bye, so long and farewell.