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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Fantasy Flex podcast from the Action Network

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Speaker 3: and Fantasy Labs. On your hope for Chris Raybon. It's

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Speaker 3: NFL Week twelve. We got our player Projections episode. I'll

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Speaker 3: be joined by one of the most accurate rankers and

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Speaker 3: gonna dive into our top five at each skill position discussed.

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Speaker 2: Players were high and lo on give out some props

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Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 3: But of course we start with our cardio kings, which

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Speaker 3: are the players ran the most routes without a target?

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Speaker 2: Kerner, what's up? Who we got for cardio king going

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Speaker 2: on in? Uh? Last week's a week eleven kids, we're

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Speaker 2: You all ground me, you'll king?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so tight end. The cardio king was Drew Sample,

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Speaker 1: it is. But the cardio king was Khalif Raymond with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean against the Eagles. It does make

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Speaker 3: And then it was like Goff never had time, as

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Speaker 2: All Right, start with quarterback Top five four Week twelve.

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Speaker 1: What do you got Lamar Jackson, Drake May, Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 1: I'm low on Joe Flacco to open the week. You know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have it. I have Daniel Jones. The actual

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Speaker 3: You gotta kind of not go into recency buys, but

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Speaker 3: it's hard with these two. I just start percent That's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just start both of those guys. Oh yeah, all right,

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Speaker 3: I mean it's you know, there's always that question because

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Speaker 3: But I feel good about Gibbs against the Giants. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Where do you have Rico? Is he like six?

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Speaker 1: I'm high on Trevion Henderson. He's my RB ten. I

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Speaker 3: I'm giving it about sixty forty Henderson right now with

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like like this is like a week

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Speaker 1: I'm projecting bashall Tuton to be fine and play through

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Speaker 3: So they're ten and a half point favorites right now.

436
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Speaker 3: Last week they were two and a half point underdogs,

437
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,119
Speaker 3: so that's not a usual game script for the Lions.

438
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 3: And it was worse than that because you got outdoor golf,

439
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,399
Speaker 3: like all just couldn't couldn't keep drives going. I mean

440
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,160
Speaker 3: they were about to set the record at one point

441
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 3: for turnovers on downs. I feel like they had like

442
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 3: five in a row. Do you remember that, Like in

443
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 3: the middle of it was like five straight possessions they

444
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:52,640
Speaker 3: turned it over on down.

445
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Speaker 1: That's not good. They didn't set the record. I wouldn't

446
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 1: be shocked if they set the record there was a

447
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 1: team with more than that.

448
00:20:58,800 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't hear anything.

449
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 3: I'm just assuming I could. I could have just not

450
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,360
Speaker 3: heard it and it was posted somewhere. But either way,

451
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 3: either way, I mean, that's that when they don't finish

452
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 3: a possession on downs and it finishes, you know, in

453
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 3: the opposing red zone, that's good news for Montgomery because

454
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 3: Gibs is gonna finish some on his own, sometimes just explosively,

455
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 3: and so can Jamo. But you know, Montgomery a monra

456
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 3: those guys they need to be a little bit closer

457
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 3: so a game like the Giants, who just are future

458
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Speaker 3: in run defense. I think this this sets it well

459
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Speaker 3: for Montgomery because he could also get carries weight if

460
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 3: they're assaulting away a lead, so like him of the

461
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 3: most you know, guys like Kenneth Gaden and Emmanuel Wilson

462
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 3: still kind of depend on the status of their starters,

463
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 3: but would be high in them as well. If they

464
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 3: were too, if their starters were to miss.

465
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Speaker 2: Who are you long?

466
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Speaker 1: H yeah, you tease it there. Rashawn White against the Rams,

467
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: he's my RB forty three. But it's it's almost impossible

468
00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 1: to project the Bucks backfield this early the way because

469
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: as Bucky Irving might return this week, he got in

470
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 1: some practice last week. They're going to try to ramp

471
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: it up this week. Who knows if he's going to

472
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 1: return or not, but that would obviously be just a

473
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 1: massive blow to Rashad White's value. But even if Bucky's out,

474
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: you know, Sean Tucker, you mentioned it earlier on the

475
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: Waivers pod, but Sean Tucker's been playing well enough. I

476
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 1: think he's going to be the lead back at least

477
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 1: on early downs for them going forward until Bucky's back.

478
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: Even then he might keep that job, who knows, But

479
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 1: White should still handle the passing down work if Bucky's out,

480
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: And this is you know, against the Rams, So this

481
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 1: could be a trailing game script where he does scene

482
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: up picking work. But you know, his stock is certainly

483
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: trending down with BUCkies, you know, Penning return and Shawn

484
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: Tucker playing well. You know, White was offering rby one

485
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: value at times when when Buckie was first out. So

486
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Speaker 1: just seeing him all the way down jarby forty three,

487
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: just if you've been banking on him, you got to

488
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,120
Speaker 1: start making plans that you know, he's gonna be more

489
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 1: of a bench stash at this point. If Bucky remains out,

490
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: you might be able to use him. But yeah, he's

491
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 1: treading down a ton in my projections, all the way

492
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: down to RB forty three to open the week.

493
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Speaker 3: Yes, definitely, I mean it's it's the writings on the

494
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 3: wall now, I mean this game. I guess there could

495
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 3: be gamescript favoring him either way, but Tucker squored a

496
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 3: receiving touchdown last game.

497
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Speaker 2: So uh, I'm all.

498
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Speaker 3: On breissee Hall against Baltimore, And this is just one

499
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 3: where I think, like in initial projections, he's probably gonna

500
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 3: come out with a highre But Baltimore has fixed its

501
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 3: run defense, I think, you know, compared to early in

502
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 3: the year when they were just terrible, you know, moving

503
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 3: some guys around, you know, into the box and you know,

504
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 3: using their their rookie safety a bit more.

505
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,479
Speaker 2: So. I'm just concerned with the game script here.

506
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 3: The Jets are just so unpredictable that you never know

507
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 3: exactly what we're getting out of Bressee Hall in the

508
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 3: passing game now, like it's it hasn't been as consistent

509
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 3: as in previous years with Rogers just dumping it off.

510
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 3: You have Justin Fields and Tyrod Taylor who aren't gonna

511
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 3: check down as much, so you're depending on the running game.

512
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 3: And I don't think it's going to be a strong

513
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 3: of a match up against Baltimore. So you know, Brisall

514
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 3: is kind of a that more of a low end

515
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 3: RB two now where I think initially I probably would

516
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 3: have made him like an RB one low and RB

517
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 3: one in a matchup like this, But Baltimore's defense I

518
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 3: think trending up and the Jets just still a mess.

519
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 3: I mean, who knows who's going to be their receiving corps.

520
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 3: Who knows at some point Davis might mix in more

521
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 3: as well. You know this their season just seems in

522
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 3: the gutter. So going up against Baltimore, I don't love

523
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 3: it for Breeze here all right, RB prop who we got?

524
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, So this Browns Raiders game is a battle of

525
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: rookie running backs. So I'm going to go Quinchawn Judkins

526
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: versus Fashion Gente rushing yards, and I'm going to make

527
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: Judkins a pretty big favorite here. I'm gonna go with

528
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 1: minus seventeen and a half rushing yards for Judkins. Who

529
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: are you taking?

530
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Speaker 2: Oh man? I mean what did Gent? You have? Seven? Yeah?

531
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: Monday Night again, cowboy.

532
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Judkins looks great, but yeah he ran seventeen times

533
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: for fifty nine yards last week. Obviously you know he's

534
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: playing on a bad team too, But yeah, I think.

535
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's tough.

536
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go genty here just because I do have

537
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 3: it pretty close. I think it Judkins has a little

538
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: bit more of a question mark of the game script too,

539
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 3: just because they're on the road. I mean, the Raiders

540
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 3: haven't been favored very often, so yeah, I'm gonna go genty.

541
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Speaker 3: But it's tough because the Browns have been the Browns

542
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 3: defense for what it's work, though, has not been as

543
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 3: good on the road, so that could work in Gent's favor.

544
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: That's been a theme for them for a few seasons, right,

545
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah it makes sense.

546
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 2: All right, See, I'm gonna go yeah, yeah, that's so disgusting, but.

547
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, fight inclusive receiving yards. Genty obviously gets a booster.

548
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: It just seems like they've kind of considered dump offs

549
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: to him to be, you know, more effective way to

550
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: get him the ball in space and you know, kind

551
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: of an extension of the run game. But yeah, that's

552
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: a tough matchup though still, even if the Browns have

553
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: been kind of shake down the road.

554
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's every week's a tough match because they

555
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 3: got like three of their offs alignment on and.

556
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557
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we'll get to wide receivers at a moment,

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Speaker 3: for Week twelve, Kurna, who you like?

575
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: I got a mon ra JSN, Puka Nakua who's not

576
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: even a full time receiver anymore, which is crazy, Uh, Rashi,

577
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: Rice and Cede Lamb.

578
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 3: Yeah it's uh, Puka's what seventy five percent routes run

579
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 3: rate lately or something?

580
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 2: Still still balling out though.

581
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's them. That's the plan, right with all the

582
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: heavy tight end personnel. Have DeVante out there, give Puka breather,

583
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: and then when Pooka's out there, you target him. So

584
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: it's it's been working for them.

585
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: Yep, that's I'm sticking with those top two JSN, Puoka Mana, Rashi,

586
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 3: Rice and Cede Lamb. If Chase was to play, you

587
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: would be back in there. But yeah, you know, Scott

588
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 3: got a projective out for now. So yeah that that

589
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 3: leaf Puka is the number two, and I don't I

590
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: don't feel bad about it, honestly, because yeah, they're they're

591
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 3: just too efficient right now. I'm not I'm not too

592
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 3: worried about about the routes. It's like Stefan Diggs with

593
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 3: the Bills one year, I think it was a couple

594
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: years ago, Tyreek Hill two. It's like sometimes they would

595
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 3: have like seventy five eighty percent route run rates, but still,

596
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 3: you know, get targeted so much that it doesn't matter.

597
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: I think Puka is kind of in that same boat

598
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 2: as them.

599
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 3: They're just trying to preserve him because they got playoffs,

600
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 3: like they they're trying to get that, you know, deep

601
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: into the playoffs this year. So it makes sense, all right,

602
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 3: who are you high on a wide receiver? Uh, finally

603
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: get to talk about this guy on this pid. But

604
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: Luther Burden the third against the Steelers. You know, he's

605
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 3: very talented rookie who they took in the second round.

606
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 3: I think he was a first round talent, but he's

607
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 3: been you know, buried on the depth chart to start

608
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 3: his career. Really their number four receiver, and I don't.

609
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: Think it's that dissimilar to jsn Ceedee Lamb when they

610
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: you know, started out as the number three target in

611
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: their offense. I don't think he's quite that caliber of

612
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: a prospect, but he's I think he's gonna be legit

613
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: when he does get playing time and you know, higher

614
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: up on the target packing order. But last week we

615
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: finally saw him leap frog Oladay Zakias. You know, Burden

616
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: had a sixty one percent routes run rate, Zikias fell

617
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: all the way down to a nineteen. So that was

618
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: the first step to Burden's breakout. And I think he

619
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: could push wide receiver three value in this role specifically,

620
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: But now he's you know, in a doomsday or DJ

621
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: more specifically, injury away maybe even Loveland from being like

622
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: a potential wide receiver two in my opinion, so I

623
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: think he should be rostered by most teams heading into

624
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: these you know, final weeks of the fantasy regular season,

625
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: just given his upside. But I think now he's kind

626
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: of getting enough time where he could be, you know,

627
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: a wide receiver three flex in the right spot. So

628
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, I have him as my wide receiver thirty

629
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: seven this week, which is probably my highest rank for

630
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: him all season. So I think the Luther Burden the

631
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: third train is about to leave the station, and next

632
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: up is a guy I don't think I've ever mentioned

633
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: on this pod, but Mac Hollins. I'm high on Mac

634
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: Hollins just because you know, the Patriots wide receiver room

635
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: has been just too volatile behind Stefan Diggs to trust anybody.

636
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: But you know, Hollins has really stepped up the past

637
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: couple of games. This is back to back games now

638
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: where he's run an eighty percent or higher route run rate,

639
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: and you know part of that is due to Kishon

640
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: Boody being out, but it's it's been really Kyle Williams,

641
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: the rookie, kind of filling in for him. So even

642
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: if Booty returns, I think Hollins has kind of carved

643
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: out this role for himself where I think he's still

644
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: going to be out there a ton, and you know,

645
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: he's earned the trust of Drake May. He's seeing a

646
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: ton of targets now, and I just think he kind

647
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: of landed in the best situation where he got to

648
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: land with the new team, with Drake May having a

649
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: year two legit breakout in kind of a murky wide

650
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: receiver room, and Hollins has been kind of sneaky good

651
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: his entire career where anytime he has a chance to

652
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,239
Speaker 1: step up, he usually does. So I just think right

653
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: now we can kind of trust Matt Hollins is like

654
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: a low, low end wide receiver three with some upside,

655
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: especially against the Bengals. So I'm high on MATC. Collins

656
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 1: this week. I think we can kind of trust him

657
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: enough to use him in certain spots.

658
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the question everybody wants to know is

659
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: is Booty still up in the air.

660
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: Bootyi's are always up in the air, but yeah, this week,

661
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: uh top in the week, Yeah, booties are up in

662
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: the air.

663
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's expected to practice Wednesday, but uh, you know,

664
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: who knows what As well as, like you said, the

665
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: other guys are playing like Drake Maye, just making everybody

666
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: look good out there, So I don't think they need

667
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 3: to rush him back. They've been fairly healthy, you know,

668
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 3: this whole year, so they probably want to stay like that.

669
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: So we'll see.

670
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 3: But yeah, I would expect Williams to go down and

671
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 3: Efton Chisholm to just be relegated to you know, kick

672
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: returns if he suits up at all. Yeah, I'm high

673
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: on Devonte Smith this week. I think, you know, it's

674
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: kind of been a flip flop. We've seen it with

675
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: the Eagles, with you know, Brown and Smith. It just

676
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 3: depends on the matchup. You have a man coverage heavy

677
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 3: matchup like the Detroit Lions, you're gonna see more aj Brown.

678
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: You have a zone heavy matchup like the the Packers

679
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 3: the week before, you're gonna see more Smith. I think

680
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: it kind of flips back to Smith a little more.

681
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: This week.

682
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: Dallas has been one of the zone heavier teams. They

683
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: tried to mix it up a little bars the year

684
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 3: has progressed. But still, you know, I'm not kind of

685
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: looking at it as okay Brown got you know, he

686
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: did get a ton of targets, didn't get at the

687
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: endzone unfortunately, But uh, it's it's not like I think

688
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: Brown is going to continue to be just like a

689
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 3: squeaky wheel, non dependent on the matchup, like he'll be

690
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: involved but as he should be. But I think Smith

691
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 3: is going to be, you know, do better than he

692
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: did against the Detroit Lions, where he was kind of shaky.

693
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: So like Smith this week against Dallas, especially, you know

694
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 3: with the with the way the coverages kind of line

695
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 3: up for the receivers.

696
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: Who are you low on at wide receiver?

697
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm low on Jordan Addison Against the Packers last week,

698
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: I cashed in. I took his under three and a

699
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: half receptions last week. That was an easy win, just

700
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: mainly because he's just been seeing a ton of targets

701
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: downfield and J. J. McCarthy has been, let's face it,

702
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: awful in his first real season, So just not an

703
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: ideal role for Addison to have have to see you know,

704
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: consistent you know production. But now they're gonna be on

705
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: the road and what could be freezing tents against a

706
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: defense that's really good at you know, limiting explosive play.

707
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: So I think this is a really tough spot for Addison.

708
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: I have wide receiver thirty eight to open the week.

709
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: I personally think that's too high, So I think by

710
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 1: the end of the week he's probably gonna be outside

711
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: my top forty. But it's been just kind of a

712
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: disappointing season for McCarthy and you know, the passing attack unfortunately.

713
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, Addison's gonna be probably you know, a sit

714
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: for me this week and going forward.

715
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's yeah, this Green Bay defense is

716
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: no joke. They do play a lot of his own

717
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: so actually live with the explosives. So unless they kind

718
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: of switch up their game plan, yeah, it would be

719
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: rough for everybody. Involved.

720
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 3: Really, I have Jefferson as well as he's been in

721
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: a while. He's like my wireshreert eighteen, which is surprising.

722
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, yeah crazy, But yeah, I was like,

723
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 3: he's hurting too. This is the first time I've seen

724
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 3: him projected under five receptions. For me, it's just like

725
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 3: McCarthy's just showering the whole entire you know, fancy landscape

726
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 3: with this team.

727
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: I am low on DJ Moore. You kind of alluded

728
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: to it with the you know Burden call. I like

729
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: it too.

730
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 3: I have them essentially the same ranking right now, which

731
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 3: is not good for DJ Moore because he should be

732
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 3: higher than the team's number three receiver, but he his

733
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 3: routes run rate also dropped a little bit, uh, just

734
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 3: over the last month or so, and now with Burdon

735
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 3: kind of being promoted, it's like, even if DJ Moore

736
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: is playing his normal routes run rate, you know, around

737
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: eighty eight percent, Burden commands more targets, so he's gonna

738
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: be on the field more with uh, you know, together

739
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 3: with more as opposed to earlier in the year where

740
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 3: Burden was more of Moore's direct backup.

741
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: So that could just lower the target share.

742
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: And then you also mentioned like love Wind is back,

743
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 3: you know with Comet, so that also kind of lowers

744
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: things a little for everybody involved. So h DJ Moore

745
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 3: without the kind of benefit of a you know, a

746
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 3: run game too, because he you know, he was also

747
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: getting those carries and now it's you have Monoga and

748
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: I in swift, so you're not as likely I think,

749
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 3: to give him carries. So everything is kind of trending

750
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 3: down for DJ more just a tiny bit, but overall

751
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: that lowers the entire projection to where he's you know,

752
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 3: he's like a low end wide receiver three and just

753
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: like Burden at this point. So in no rush to

754
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: start him because we don't really know where the where

755
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: the role is going to end up. And I mentioned

756
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 3: its Pittsburgh defense trending up, not his lible I think,

757
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: to just be exploited, you know, down the field or

758
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 3: anything like that. So yeah, I think it's just tough

759
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 3: for DJ Moore, tough for his managers to kind of

760
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 3: get a read on, you know, whether he'll be consistent,

761
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 3: but I think most of weeks he probably won't be,

762
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 3: So I'm out on him.

763
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he hasn't had a target right over twenty

764
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: percent all season, which is insane. Uh, and his at

765
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: has been over twenty yards the past two weeks. I

766
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: think he's like a reception market fade this week. But

767
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: he's he's essentially like a rich man's Jalen Hyatt right now.

768
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: It's kind of what his underlife looks like, right right,

769
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: Am I wrong?

770
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I mean you have more but yeah, oh gosh, yeah,

771
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: it's it's been.

772
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: It's been a nightmare season for for DJ Moore, and

773
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: now the Bears seem to be trending towards like more

774
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: heavy personnel, you know, running game COMBT love wind focus,

775
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 3: Like I think their top receiver Dunesday last week his

776
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 3: routes run rate was only like in the mid eighties,

777
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: which that just signals, like, you know, it's getting heavier

778
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 3: personnel time.

779
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: So this could be it could be just a year

780
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 2: long thing.

781
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: Like I don't know if More ever regains any type

782
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: of value or has one of those like breakout games

783
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 3: going forward, we shall see. But yeah, all right, wide

784
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 3: receiver prop a lot of guys to choose from, just

785
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 3: a lot of upheaval in the UH. Some of these

786
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 3: wide receiver rooms. Last couple of weeks. Let's see, let's

787
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: go with Ricky Piersall receiving yards against Carolina on Monday night,

788
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 3: because you would have to wait to start him. So

789
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be another one of those guys

790
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 3: probably a question mark. Now, he did play a ton

791
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: uh over Kendrick Bourne, so that's good. But I'm gonna

792
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 3: stay's receiving yardage line at forty three and a half.

793
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: Ooh on my head, that sounds a bit right. Oh yeah,

794
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: I have forty six as his average. I'm gonna go

795
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: under here, but just a couple of yards. Yeah, it

796
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: seems like Juwan Jennings is kind of the alpha wide

797
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: receiver right now. I think that'll just continue this week.

798
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: But and I he's already been ruled out this week, right, Yeah,

799
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 1: he's no like he's still weeks away. Yeah, he's still weaks.

800
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: Playing this year?

801
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: Is he in bed?

802
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: Like?

803
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: Will he play this year? Would be like minus one

804
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: ten each way at this point, right, I mean we're

805
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: getting deep in the season and he's still weeks away.

806
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a chance he doesn't return this yet.

807
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: Maybe he returns about playoffs or something. But yeah, yeah,

808
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: I'd say that's a pretty good line. I'm just gonna

809
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: lean under here.

810
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, Piers Will still has like he did this year

811
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 3: to where it's like most guys are healthy, he would

812
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: have these stretches where he just completely especially with party,

813
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: just completely disappears.

814
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

815
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's hard, but you would think they would

816
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 3: want to get him going just because he was so

817
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 3: unproductive last week.

818
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: But who who knows.

819
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's he's another just tough projection. I

820
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 3: think the thing about you, he's not he's probably not playing.

821
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: He's he's got to.

822
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 3: Get through one of those Thursday practices where everyone gets hurt.

823
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: It's like he probably would just come back and get

824
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 3: hurt in practice or something like that. Yeah.

825
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like typically, like you know, he didn't he's

826
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: not seeing a big target right this year, but he

827
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: had a higher A dot earlier in the season, and

828
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 1: last week it was just ten and a half yards downfield.

829
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: So even if he does, you know, get more targets,

830
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: they're not downfield. So yeah, he just seems like a

831
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: kind of a lower floor, lower ceiling officer right now.

832
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: I mean it's hard to even use his at because

833
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: he had so it's just a small sample.

834
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: This year.

835
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, he's I mean, I still have him

836
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: as a border wide receiver. Three's just I think it's

837
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: a very volatile, very momatile projection.

838
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: Yes, Kittle just popping off lately. He's more of the

839
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: third target. Yeah, makes sense, or a fourth target with McCaffrey. Yeah, yeah,

840
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: all right, tight end top five. I'm sorting it. This

841
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: is the first time I'm looking at it. Oh, I

842
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: just mentioned George Kittle number one. That's not a type

843
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: that I'm sticking with. That's my raw dog product projection

844
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: traded Bride number two, I would imagine he does. And

845
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: Mike tight end one this weekend, brock Bauers tight end three.

846
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: So a stack top three, and then I got Kelsey

847
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: and Tyler Warren to close it out. Yeah.

848
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 3: McBride, Kittle, Bauers, Warren, Kelsey top five. I think that's

849
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 3: pretty pretty standard this week Kelsey's Kelsey's looking good out there. Yeah,

850
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 3: worried about him, but he's come on strong. I think

851
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 3: tough matchup last week too, and he did. He did

852
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 3: really well.

853
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: Who are you high on?

854
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: Well? I mentioned this guy on the waiver pod. I

855
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: got to talk about again. It's a j barner against

856
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: the Titans. This week, you know, coming off that really

857
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: big ten catch, seven yard game. We talked about that

858
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: like that, He's probably not gonna be able to replicate that.

859
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: That was just kind of an extreme pass heavy game

860
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: strip with Darnold throwing a ton of interceptions and they're

861
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: facing the rams, So probably not going to see that

862
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: level of you know, receiving usage the rest of the way.

863
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: But it was encouraging to see his routes run rate

864
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: top out at eighty percent, which is a season high

865
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: last week. And I kind of mentioned that with you know,

866
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: Rashid Shaheed there, they have Cup Tory Horton might return

867
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: this week. They're really trying to get you know, three

868
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: receivers on the field as much as they can, or

869
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 1: at least more so with everyone healthy. So that's really

870
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: coming at the expense of Elijah Arroyo, who I'm very

871
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: high on as you know a rookie, and you know,

872
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 1: Barner's look good, so I don't think, you know, Arroyo

873
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: is really a threat for him at all, But specifically

874
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: with Arroyo, he's running their toush push play where every week,

875
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: you know, he's getting one or two design carries, a

876
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago they used him at the goal line,

877
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: so it's not without question that we could see him

878
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: score a couple more rushing touchdowns the rest of the way,

879
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: which is why I'm saying he's like Taysom Hill with

880
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: a higher floor right now. So I think he's the

881
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: guy that we have to take notice of. And he's

882
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: pushing you know, tight end one value already, but I

883
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: just think he has a ton of upside being in

884
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: on this tush push play to where I think he

885
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: has a serious upside.

886
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

887
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 3: No, it's definitely helps to kind of project and project

888
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: those out because, like you know, those tight ends that

889
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: get rushing attempts usually they are those short yardage carries.

890
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 3: Now Andrews was, I was projecting him for rushing times

891
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 3: he actually got like a what is thirty yards five?

892
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

893
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what happened.

894
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: They got creative. Instead of just going up the middle,

895
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: he just rolled out and nobody was around, so he

896
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: just you know, twenty thirty yards out. So they're putting

897
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: they're adding wrinkles to these tush push plays. But yeah,

898
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: Andrews is the Ray version because like you always pointed out, ever,

899
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: your Lamar Jackson just doesn't rush for touchdowns.

900
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't need to.

901
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 3: I mean it makes sense, like it's like you don't

902
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: want him reaching the ball out taking hits at the

903
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 3: goal on you have other guys to do that.

904
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think Barner is kind of in that.

905
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 3: Darnold hasn't ran run as much either as he used

906
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: to early in his career, so that's kind of helped

907
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 3: in the receiving game for for Barner.

908
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 2: And then yeah, he gets their short yardage those those runs.

909
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 3: So like him, Uh, I'm high on I think it

910
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 3: was a guy who were low on last week or

911
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 3: in the past. But Hunter Henry, I think this is

912
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: a good week for him against the Bengals. They've just

913
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: been futured against tight ends. They're their front sevens just decimated.

914
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a bad defense all the way around.

915
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: But in a game like this, you know, I think

916
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: the Patriots could be leading for just a long time.

917
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: That would be more what a more one to two personnel.

918
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: Now Hooper has been.

919
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 3: Out so or he was out last week, so if

920
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 3: he doesn't play, Henry pretty much gets all the tight

921
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 3: end snaps. You know, you have the west Over were

922
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 3: kind of the HVAC role, but as far as the

923
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 3: receiving game goes, I think Henry in a good spot.

924
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: Got six targets four catches last week, notting crazy, and

925
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 3: he hasn't really been a top tight end this year

926
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 3: just because of the receivers. But I think in this

927
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 3: Cincinnati is one of those few teams Carolina Pittsburgh, they

928
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: tend to give up a ton to tight ends over receivers.

929
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 2: So give me some hunter.

930
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: Henry.

931
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: This who he opens the week is my tight end eight,

932
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: which is a lot higher than he's been in what

933
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 3: month and a half probably, So yeah.

934
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, last week I was low on him until Austin

935
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: Hooper was ruled out and then I was like, who

936
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: the hell are they going to give the snaps to?

937
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 1: So I gave him all to Henry, and sure enough

938
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: they're like they didn't use Westover at all. I think

939
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: Henry was like the only tight end and they just

940
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: elevated CJ. Who the hell is this? So that's not

941
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's somebody out there that is Appalachian state legend.

942
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: CJ's dippery asshole, but I don't know who that guy is.

943
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: But it just it just probably means that Hooper's probably

944
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: thing out this week again, we'll see.

945
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 2: It's another like yeah, yeah, yeah, you should know who

946
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 2: that is. It's like him.

947
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 3: It's like you got these guys with the R E

948
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: last names that get like elevated and then they're just

949
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: gonna Like last week it was the Giants guy, Uh,

950
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: David Camper was elevated over like like there was no

951
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 3: Ray Ray.

952
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: Right, but yeah, it's just like yeah, yeah it was. Yeah,

953
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, but yeah I noticed that too, Like,

954
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: who the hell is this guy? It's rare that I

955
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: can see a guy that I had just no clue

956
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: as being a preseason de generate. I typically know who

957
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: these guys are, but I didn't know who that guy was.

958
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just saw that. I was like I was

959
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: looking at the rosters. I was like, yeah, Ray Ray

960
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: is not here.

961
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 3: I was, oh, yeah, because he's still a freaking uh

962
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: elevation Like that's like some of these guys aren't like

963
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 3: Gave Davis. I believe we'd still have to get elevated

964
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 3: this week too, so we watch out for that a

965
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 3: few guys like that.

966
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 2: But either way, Uh, let's see what are we doing?

967
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: Uh tight ends? We are well on who you got?

968
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a low on Harold Fannon Jr. Against the Raiders.

969
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: And I hate to do this because I'm still very

970
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: high on Fannin as a talent, but I just think

971
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: his stock did take a hit with the Browns deciding

972
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: to keep David Joku and not trading him before the deadline.

973
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: So you know, Fan's gonna be kind of in a

974
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: time share with Joku the rest of the way as

975
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: long as he's healthy. But next year, when I move

976
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: on from Djoku, possibly, you know, Fans gonna have this

977
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: tid in room all to himself. But you know, just

978
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 1: within this offense, we've seen Jerry Judy's usage get an uptick,

979
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: and he had mentioned that that's kind of due to

980
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: Tommy Rees, the offensive coordinator, now taking over play calling

981
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: duty since the bye week, So that's a trend I noticed.

982
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: As Judy is getting more involved, Cedric Tillman's back commanding

983
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: target so it's just a little bit tougher for Fan

984
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: Junior to get productive. I mean, he's still seeing a

985
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: really good target rate and playing time, but just with

986
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: all these other mouths to feed in an offense which

987
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: George Sanders might be the starting quarterback this week, I

988
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: saw his prop opened up at one hundred and sixty

989
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: passing yards, which is right around where I have them.

990
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: So this is a game where I think they're just

991
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: gonna continue to lean on the run, lean on their defense,

992
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: and that's that's just going to kind of limit Fan E.

993
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: Junior's upside. So you know, he's tight end nineteen for me. Again,

994
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: he probably needed Joku to get traded away or miss

995
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: time to be kind of a consistent tight end one.

996
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: So he's just a guy that I'm just a little

997
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: bit lower on since the trade deadline.

998
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's I think this is another one of those

999
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 3: situations where you got to the inactives could come into

1000
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 3: play or give at least give us a hint as

1001
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 3: to their plans, because I noticed that they called up

1002
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 3: Cayden Davis or that, Yeah he signed to the roster

1003
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 3: or something. So he's a wide receiver, but he's not

1004
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: gonna play. He's gonna play special team. And then they active.

1005
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 3: They had white Heart and Baits active, so they had

1006
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 3: four tight ends active. If that's their plan going forward,

1007
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 3: that would mean they would have like less receiver routes

1008
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 3: because Davis wouldn't really be expected to run routes, so

1009
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 3: that could actually be good for the tight ends because

1010
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: it means like a guy like fan In, like Onck,

1011
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 3: he wouldn't have to block because they'd have white Heart

1012
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 3: and Baits, and like there'd be no special teams like

1013
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 3: for like one of the like three or four tight

1014
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 3: ends like white Heart and Baits, they could, they could,

1015
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 3: they probably both play on special teams, but they would

1016
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 3: like it wouldn't be as much of a you know,

1017
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 3: a role that they would have to be worried about

1018
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 3: with fan In. So I think, yeah, Fannin could be fine,

1019
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 3: but I agree. I mean, he's been trending down with

1020
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: Najoka and standards is terrible, so it might.

1021
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: Not It might not matter.

1022
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: Around as my point, but yeah, I love him as

1023
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: a talent still. I think next year, next year he's

1024
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: probably gonna be a top ten option, depending who the

1025
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: hell they have at quarterback. But I'm still high on

1026
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: him long term.

1027
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely, he's he looks good out there. But yeah,

1028
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 3: should I meant one sixty gross?

1029
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: Right? But net? I mean he could be like under

1030
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: one hundred if he could take the set.

1031
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 3: I am low on Dalton Schultz and this is just

1032
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,959
Speaker 3: kind of matchup base you know, Buffo has been number

1033
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 3: twelve against tight ends, have been pretty good at womening

1034
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 3: tight ends. And then you have you know, all those

1035
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 3: receivers playing now like five receivers, you know, Higgins Noel

1036
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 3: are are kind of well, especially Higgins trending up. And

1037
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 3: then uh, you have Stover returned so earlier in the

1038
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 3: year that the plan was for Stover to get a

1039
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: little more involved Schultz he's just not a good blocker,

1040
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 3: so he's been banged up. But now that Stover's back,

1041
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 3: I wonder if Stover kind of eats into some of

1042
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 3: the early down snaps. I'm kind of a little weary

1043
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 3: of that compared to a guy like Harrison Bryant. So

1044
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 3: just lowered lowering Shultz a little bit. I don't think

1045
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 3: he's trustable as a top you know, twelve option the

1046
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 3: way he's been over the past month or so going forward,

1047
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 3: So low on Schultz for me.

1048
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: Tight end prop that's that's you what you got.

1049
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go with h two kind of mid

1050
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 1: range tight end one types. I haven't projected very close,

1051
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: So just want you to kind of break the tie here.

1052
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: But it's Jake Ferguson versus Kyle Pitts half PPR. I'll

1053
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: make Ferguson like it's a pick them. I mean we're

1054
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: talking about the scoring system that's like down to the

1055
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: decimal anyway, So it's it's a pick them. Who are

1056
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 1: you taking?

1057
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have them, I have them closer than I want.

1058
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,479
Speaker 2: But Pitts is just such a low floor.

1059
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 3: I'm on Ferguson. I've always been highering Ferguson. I'm gonna like,

1060
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 3: I'm the projections. I have him pretty even, so I'm

1061
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 3: but I'm going Ferguson. I just trust the floor a

1062
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 3: lot more.

1063
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: I'm not You're not gonna get me. You're not gonna

1064
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 2: get me to take conference for anything.

1065
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't know who I want you to take. I

1066
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: just Ferguson with you know, Lamb back, his target share

1067
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: has taken a hit. He had those really big games

1068
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: with Lamb out and now Pickens is you know, out

1069
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: of this world good. So yeah, he's got some target competition.

1070
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, Kyle Pitts with London out, but Kirk Cousins

1071
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 1: is under center makes it kind of a murky projection.

1072
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: So I have them, yeah, essentially tied dope in the week.

1073
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just going with a better player. That's what

1074
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hear. I hope, hope it works out. It

1075
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 3: has I mean with Kyle Pittson, it just it. Man, frustrating,

1076
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 3: all right, Dad is gonna do it.

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