1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: On this episode of Newtsworld. My guest today has had 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: a legendary career as a college football coach for forty 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: years before being elected the United States Senate to represent 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: the state of Alabama. He first joined me on Newts 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: World in January twenty twenty two and we had a 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: great conversation about what it was like to go from 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: head coach to the US Senate. He's joining me today 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: to discuss issues he's leading on in the Senate regarding 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: the impact on the new Title nine policies we're going 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: to have on female athletes and his recent decision to 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: implement holds on the Department of Defense due to the 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: military's new abortion rules. So I'm really pleased to welcome 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: back my guest, Senator coach Tommy Tuberville. Tommy, welcome, and 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: thank you for joining me again in Newtsworld. 15 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: Glad to be here just to. 16 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: Have people understand how well you understand the Title nine issue. 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: You spent forty years in higher education as a college 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: football coach. You were at the University of Miami, Texas, 19 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: a and m head coach at the University of Mississippi, 20 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: then head coach at Auburn University, where you coached for 21 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: eleven years. You led the Tigers to five Western Division titles, 22 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: one SEC championship, and in two thousand and four you 23 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: were the National Coach of the Year. You also had 24 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: head coaching stops at Texas Tech and Cincinnati, so you've 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: really had a lot of experience in athletics and a 26 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: lot of experience of Title nine. And when you did 27 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: retire after the twenty sixteen season, you were one of 28 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: the top fifty most winning football coaches of all time, 29 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: which is why our earlier podcast was so much fun 30 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: talking with you about lessons of coaching and what it's 31 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: like then to be in the US Senate. Given that background, 32 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: what's your sense of how the entire Biden administration approach 33 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: to Title nine is going to affect women in sports. 34 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: Well, one thing you didn't mentioned, Newt was when I 35 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: first started coaching, I started coaching girls' sports also along 36 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: with men's sports, and that was at the very beginning 37 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: of Title nine. And it's one of the things that 38 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: I've seen up here that has really worked in the 39 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: federal government is Title nine. And a lot of people 40 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: were for it, a lot of people were against it 41 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 2: at that time, but it has done so much for 42 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: girls and women in sports all over our country. It's 43 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: built leadership, it's built work ethic, it's done the things 44 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: that boys had the opportunity to do before. Title nine 45 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: and Title nine, for those that really don't know, just 46 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: basically made it even for men and women's sports. If 47 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: you did something for men through the government, you had 48 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: to do the same thing for women. In my goodness, 49 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: how that success is really enhanced girls and women all 50 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: over our country. And look at the leaders we have now, 51 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: and a lot of it is because of sports. Now, 52 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: Joe Biden and his administration are attacking Title nine, and 53 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: there's a lot of people that were for Title nine 54 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: newt years ago that are attacking it the same way. 55 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: And for some reason, I don't understand it, because what's 56 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: going on now will really affect Title nine. It's going 57 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 2: to tear it up. It's going to tear it from 58 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: inside out, Like our country is being destroyed from inside 59 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: out right now. And we have to get control of 60 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: this and this transgender issue. You know, listen, I'm not 61 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: against it. Whatever you want to be in our country, 62 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: you'd be that, But that doesn't give you the opportunity 63 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: to destroy other people's lives, and that's what's happening through 64 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: transcender biological boys participating in girls sports, and it's going 65 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: to continue to tear it down. And the Biden administration 66 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: is adamant on taking away the gender of women, and 67 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: we're going to keep fighting that up here because it's 68 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: unsafe and it's wrong what they're trying to do. 69 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: It seems to me that if you're born male, that 70 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: there are things that happen in terms of testosterone and 71 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: muscle build up and what have you, that even if 72 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: you do go through a sex change operation, you still 73 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: have enormous advantages over virtue of all females. What am 74 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: I missing here. 75 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: Well, you're not missing anything. This is just a situation 76 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: where federal government wants to step in and basically attack 77 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: gender in this country. Right now, there's some states that 78 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: have twenty or thirty different genders that you can put 79 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: on your driver's license. I really don't understand it. There's 80 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: a man and a woman in our country. It's been 81 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: that way for thousands of years, but people want to 82 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: change it. And again, I don't care what people want 83 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: to think that they are or want to try to 84 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,119 Speaker 2: change the way that they are to be something else. 85 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: The problem with this, it would be like saying, Okay, 86 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: we're going to let NFL football players play in a 87 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: junior high football league. I mean, that's basically what you're 88 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 2: doing here, and it's not fair. It's not fair to 89 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: the women and girls in this country that want the 90 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: opportunity to play sports and to learn from that situation. 91 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: But they also want if they're going to participate, they 92 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: want to have the opportunity to have success. And now 93 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: that we've got biological boys playing in women's sports, it's 94 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 2: going to continue to grow and grow and grow because 95 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: as of May, obviously Joe Biden and his group are 96 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: trying to change Title nine where you have to let 97 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: biological boys play in women's sports. It's going to rip 98 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: the heart and soul out of this bill, and it's 99 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: going to rip the heart and soul out of young 100 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: men and young women and girls across this country. It's 101 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: just a shame that we even have to talk about this. 102 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: Isn't this also basically a position where when you are 103 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: dealing with this, they are repealing Title nine for all 104 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: practical purposes, they're ending the set aside for women to 105 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: be able to fully participate in sports, Biological men have 106 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: won twenty eight women's sports titles since two thousand and three. 107 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: That just strikes me is totally wrong. What does that 108 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: say to every woman who is trying to compete in 109 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: a particular sport to realize that no matter how good 110 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: they get, that some guy is going to beat them 111 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: out and that guy is then going to have the 112 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: women's title. Back when you were coaching girls basketball that 113 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: first four years, if men had been able to compete, 114 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: I suspect they were have been the entire basketball team exactly. 115 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 2: And what you just mentioned about twenty eight titles in 116 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 2: the NCAA twenty eight where women's sports, some kind of league, 117 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: some kind of championship was won by a biological boy 118 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: over the last fourteen fifteen years, and it's going to 119 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: be more and more if we continue to let this happen. 120 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 2: That's not counting the championships that are won in the 121 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: elementary level, the junior high level, the high school level. 122 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: It's going to be a total takeover of these kids 123 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: that are transitioning or say they're transitioning to women. It's 124 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 2: going to be a total takeover or boys in women's sports. 125 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: And we can't allow that to happen. We have to 126 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: allow young girls and women to be able to compete. Now, 127 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 2: I see now where some of these girls, like the 128 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: rappin'o or whatever her name is, a soccer players all 129 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: in for a transition and all in for these transgender 130 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: biological boys participate in women's sports. Well, I got news 131 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 2: for her. If we'd have done this twenty five years ago, 132 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: we'd have never heard of her. She would not have 133 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 2: been able to compete in the sports she competed in 134 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: and had the success she had. If she was going 135 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: to have to compete against biological men, that had never happened. 136 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: So she got her success because of Title nine. Now, 137 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: for some reason, she wants to try to destroy Title 138 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: nine through transgender boys playing and men playing in women's sports. 139 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: It's absolutely lunacy. 140 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: You've introduced the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act, 141 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: which would preserve title line. What would it actually do? 142 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: Knud? Just going through the House this week they had 143 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: pretty much the same bill, and what it does. It 144 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: pretty much says that if you allow biological boys or 145 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: men to play in a sport that is funded by 146 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: federal funds, then you lose that federal funding. We've got 147 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: to find some way to hold her feet to the 148 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: fire on this. But as we've seen in this new 149 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: amendment that Joe Biden in the White House is going 150 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: to put in starting in May, that they are allowed 151 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: to play and you can't take federal funding. And if 152 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: you don't allow them to play, they will take federal 153 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: funding away from you. And so it's just the opposite. 154 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: Our building the House and our building the center is 155 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: just the opposite. You lose your federal funding if you 156 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: allow biological boys to play in women's sports. And again, 157 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: their amendment is just the opposite of what we're trying. 158 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: They are absolutely trying to destroy Title nine, and they 159 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: say they're not and they're not trying to destroy Title nine. 160 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: That's not what they're trying to destroy. Gender. They don't 161 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 2: want to be any thoughts about their being a gender. 162 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: They want us to basically have one gender in this country, 163 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: and that's not what it's supposed to be. This country 164 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: is built on moral values. It was built on God 165 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: and our constitution, and that's what we need to go by. 166 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: When you say that they're going to change us. Do 167 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: they have the authority under Title nine as it's written 168 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: for the President to redefine it this way. 169 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: Well, they don't because we're saying it's not institutional. But 170 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: they're trying to do everything. They're trying to go around 171 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: Road Wade. Now that it's going back to the States. 172 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: They're trying to circumvent and go around the rule of 173 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: law and the constitution to make taxpayers pay for abortions 174 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: and all those things. So they're trying to take any 175 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: avenue they possibly can to go around the rule of 176 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: the law and the moral values of this country to 177 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: implement their values and the things that they believe in. 178 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 2: And that's not what this country was built on. 179 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: Your other major initiative, which is I think showing a 180 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: great deal of courage on your part, talk about what's 181 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: happening at the Defense Department on abortion and why you've 182 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: taken such a strong position. 183 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: Well, what happened, Speaker, as I would say, in July, 184 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: we got wind after Roe Wade came down that the military, 185 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 2: the Department of Defense was going to change the abortion 186 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: policy for our military on their own, and we couldn't 187 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: get a briefing from them. They just basically were going 188 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: to hide it from us and just bring it out 189 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: and say here it is, we're going to change it. 190 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: And so around Thanksgiving this past year, finally, after letter 191 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 2: and calls to the Department Offense and Sector Austin and 192 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: his group of minions over there, we finally got him 193 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: to say, okay, well, we're going to give you a briefing. 194 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: So they gave us a briefing and it took about 195 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: thirty minutes, and after about a minute, I'm going to 196 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 2: wait a minute. Wait a minute. So you're going to 197 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: change the law in this country without going through Congress. Listen, 198 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: we can stop right there. Basically, what they said, we're 199 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 2: going to start allowing more abortions in the military. And 200 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: now we already have an abortion policy and it's if 201 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: you have rape, incest, or harmed in the mom The 202 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 2: military has done for years, have done abortions, and that 203 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: was the policy. That was the policy was passed down 204 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: from Congress. But after Roe Wade, they said, well, we're 205 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: not gonna be able to get this to Congress. They 206 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 2: might be able to if they tried it, but we're 207 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: going to implement it ourselves. So now they're basically saying 208 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: taxpayers are gonna have to fund abortions, not only for 209 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: the military, but also their dependents, and we're going to 210 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: put them on an airplane and travel them to a 211 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 2: state of their choice where they can have an abortion. 212 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: And my letter right after that hearing was to Secretary Austin, 213 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: and I said, now, listen, I understand what you're trying 214 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: to do here, but you're trying to change the law. 215 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: And last I looked, y'all weren't elected to Congress. We were, 216 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: and that's what we do here in the Capital. We 217 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: set laws for the country and for the taxpayers. And 218 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 2: you're not going to do this. And if you do, 219 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put a hold on every flag general, admiral 220 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: or even some of your Seville nominees, and you're not 221 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: gonna be able to get them through unless you go 222 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: through regular order, which would take forever. And so they implemented, 223 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: I think February the eighth, they went ahead and implemented 224 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 2: this new policy. And when they did that, I implemented my 225 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: holes on all the flagship officers and across our military. 226 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: Now a lot of people are very upset about it, 227 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 2: but the taxpayers are not required to pay for abortions 228 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 2: in this country. That's basically what the High Amendment says. 229 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 2: So they're breaking the law, and so we've got a 230 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: standoff as we speak. But I'm not budget and so 231 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: if they want to get these nominees through, they can 232 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: take them through regular order, which right now we've got 233 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: up close to two hundred nominations. That would take a 234 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: long long time to get them through. But to get 235 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: them through, that's what they're going to have to do, 236 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: or they're going to bring the bill to the floor 237 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: and make people vote on it and see what people 238 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 2: how they vote through each Senator and through each Congressman, 239 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 2: and get them on the record of how they're going 240 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: to vote for taxpayers paying for abortions. 241 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: I noticed this based on the research you all have 242 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: been doing, that the Department of Defense, with a very 243 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: limited number of abortions that are allowed under current law, 244 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: with in cases of rape incests or pregnancies to threat 245 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: in the life of the mother, the Department Offense has 246 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: averaged less than twenty abortions per year. But with this 247 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: new rule, the estimate is that we'll go up to 248 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: forty one hundred a year. That's two hundred and five 249 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: times more abortions paid for by the Defense Department than 250 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: under current law. So what they're suggesting here is in 251 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: many ways almost as big as radical a change as 252 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: they're attempting in Title nine. And you've stood firmly and 253 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: blocked it. And I'm curious, what's the response when you're 254 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: exercising the legitimate power of the Senate to block nominations 255 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: and to force the president to pay attention. But what 256 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: has been the reaction in general to you've taken such 257 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: a strong stand. 258 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: Well, I've gotten a lot of support from all over 259 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 2: the country from my state of Alabama. I've got a 260 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: lot of support on our side in the Senate and 261 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 2: the Republic inside. Not one hundred percent yet, but I'm 262 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: still working on that. But it's the process of which 263 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: they're doing it, Speaker, you know, again, as I said 264 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: after Roadway, they've been looking for any avenue in which 265 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: to do abortions. Now. The one thing that they did change, 266 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: other than the pain the taxpayer's paying for this abortion, 267 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: is they can do it at any time. It's abortion 268 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: on demand, and which a majority of the people across 269 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: the country don't believe in. But sixty percent of the 270 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: people we poll that sixty percent of the people are 271 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: behind us across country on this. Taxpayers should not have 272 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: to fund abortions. It's against the law. But we've got 273 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: a lot of pushback. The leader of the Senate, which 274 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: has been very vocal against me. The week before we 275 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: got out for recess a couple of weeks ago, he 276 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: started his Our Morning talk on the Senate floor about me, 277 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: about how I was holding up progress in this country, 278 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: and he went for four days straight just pounding on me. 279 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: But that's fine, as I told him in a speech 280 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: on the floor that when they try to do a 281 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: cr against me, I said, listen, I've been in coaching 282 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 2: for forty years. I've been called everything already. You can't 283 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: call me anything new, So come on, bring it on, 284 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: because I'm standing behind the Constitution and the taxpayers of 285 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: this country, and. 286 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: I suspect in Alabama having Schumer attack you is not 287 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: exactly a hardship. One of the things, though, that's kind 288 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: of a big lie, is this argument that what you're 289 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: doing is unprecedented. In fact, I think you pointed out 290 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: in a Wall Street Journal uphed which I thought was 291 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: pretty effectively entitled the Pentagon shouldn't wage culture work that 292 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: In fact, historically the Senate has often indicated that it 293 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: wants the executive branch to pay attention by holding up 294 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: promotions including I think I was really surprised to learn this. 295 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: On one occasion in nineteen ninety two they upheld the 296 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: promotion and transfer of about nine thousand Navy and Marine 297 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: officers till they got the attention of the Navy. That 298 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: is a real impact. And why comparison what you've done 299 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: so far is pretty mild. 300 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: Well, one thing too, and you know this speaker, that 301 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: you don't have a lot of power in the Senate 302 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 2: when you're in the minority. And since I've been here 303 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: for two years and going into my third year, we've 304 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: obviously been in the minority. We have no control of anything. 305 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: But the power that you do have is you can 306 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 2: object and you can put a hold on somebody. And 307 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: when you do that, now they can get these people 308 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: voted on, but they have to do it one at 309 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: a time. For the people listening right now, we do 310 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: them in groups of one hundred, one hundred and fifty 311 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: two hundred, and they just kind of passed through committee 312 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: and they go through just a regular vote unanimous consent 313 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: and they're approved. But when you put a hold on somebody, 314 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: they can get one through but they've got to go 315 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: through regular order, which one at a time, they go 316 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: through committee, and then they come to the floor and 317 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: people vote on them. And so that's what I'm making 318 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: them do. I'm making them work. We haven't done a 319 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: lot of work up here since January. We've been on 320 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: vacation morning, we've been in the office. But that's because Schumer, 321 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: the leader of the Senate is he knows he can't 322 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: get much done because we have the house control of 323 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: the House, because he can't spend any money, and that's 324 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: all they like to do up here, spend money. It's 325 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: a unique situation, but we do have some power win 326 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: win the minority, and so I've got a hold on them, 327 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: and they're going to have to find some way to 328 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 2: get around this. Bring it to a full vote on 329 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 2: this new policy, and if it passes, it passes. But 330 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: I think they're afraid to put their name on this bill. 331 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: To be honest with you, then. 332 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,479 Speaker 1: You have to go home and explain to people why 333 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: you want to use their tax money to pay for abortions. 334 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: And it just strikes me it's not part of why 335 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: we have a Department of Defense. Everything they've done under 336 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: Biden on trying to create a woke Department of Defense, 337 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: so I think is actually weakened our ability to protect America. 338 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: I hope we don't have war with anybody right now 339 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 2: new because they have absolutely tried to bring our military 340 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: to its needs. Through all there's woke policies. You wouldn't 341 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: believe the things that they're trying to do and continue 342 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: to do. American taxpayers don't know anything about. But as 343 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: I tell Secretary Austin every time he comes to a 344 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 2: posture hearing in front of Armed Services Committee, you know, 345 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: I tell him, Hey, we don't need a woke military, 346 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 2: we need a killing machine. People need to fear us 347 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: across the world, and they don't fear us anymore because 348 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:06,479 Speaker 2: we're more worried about transgender restrooms, about the wokeism that 349 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 2: we teach with all of our military. Right after the 350 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: January sixth, two years ago, the first thing that Sector 351 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 2: Austin did was he put everybody through in a quite extremism 352 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: test to make sure that white nationalists weren't in our military, 353 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: which is the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life. 354 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 2: But that's this administration. Our country is struggling right now. 355 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: We have got more problems and you can stir with 356 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: a stick. And it's all caused by this White House 357 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: of Joe Biden. 358 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: And another example of that radicalism, which I'm a little 359 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: surprised that they're so tone deaf to the American people, 360 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: but this new propose by the Environmental Protection Agency that 361 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: would actually try to force Americans to have two out 362 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: of every three cars be electric by twenty thirty two. 363 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it seems to me that when the country 364 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: understands that considering the current gas powered cars are ninety 365 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: three percent of all new car sales, so they want 366 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: to move from seven percent to sixty seven percent in 367 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: really a very short time. And of course the average 368 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: electric vehicle is sixty four thousand dollars well, the average 369 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: compact gas powered cars about twenty six thousand, So it 370 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: really hits the poor and the working Americans hardest. But 371 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: what's your view of this whole notion that EPA is 372 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: going to somehow by bureaucracy, coerce us into buying cars 373 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: we don't want to buy. 374 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 2: It's about total control by the Democratic Party in the 375 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: far left, this climate agenda that they have with John 376 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: Kerry running all over the world preaching the world's coming 377 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: to an end. In set the nineteen sixties, they've predicted 378 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: something every ten years is going to happen. They've been 379 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 2: dead wrong on all of it, and they're dead wrong 380 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 2: on this this country, in this world. Newt was built 381 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 2: on cheap energy, and we've got abundance of fossil fuels 382 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: in this country and other places. We're actually putting a 383 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 2: restraint on everybody in this world by us not going 384 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 2: out and fully implementing the fossil fuels we have in 385 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: this country. But they can't do what they're doing. They 386 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 2: know they can't. They're trying to push this agenda where 387 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: they get to a point. And I saw today I 388 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 2: read something early this morning. I get up early and 389 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 2: read John carry says, we're gonna get this to the 390 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: point where there's no return, and that's exactly what they're 391 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: trying to do. I went to several car manufacturers a 392 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, even in my state, and they're 393 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 2: transitioning to a huge amount of EV cars, and I said, well, 394 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: first of all, where you're gonna get you batteries from? 395 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: I mean, who's gonna charge these things? I mean, there 396 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: is no common sense to this new there's no plan. 397 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 2: All their plan is to get everybody under the control 398 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: of the federal government and force people to go the 399 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 2: EV route, which people can't afford it. As you just said, 400 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: the expense is unbelievable. They're not gonna be able to 401 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: afford to charge it, and we can't make enough electricity 402 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: for all these things. There's no plan, no common sense. 403 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 2: And it's the same thing every day I hear hear 404 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 2: from this Bide administration and Democrats is we're gonna do 405 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 2: it for the American people. They're not doing it for 406 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: the American people. They're doing it for the government, and 407 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 2: if we don't stop it, we're gonna be in huge trouble. 408 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's more accurate to say they're doing 409 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: it to the American people, not for the American people. 410 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: Your state is a surprisingly big manufacturer of cars, isn't it. 411 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 2: We make Mercedes cars, we make Hondai Toyota. I was 412 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: glad to hear one CEO had a little bit of 413 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: common sense. Toyota's CEO said, you know, I don't believe 414 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,239 Speaker 2: this is gonna work. I mean, we're not gonna get off. 415 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna build a few EV cars, but we're not 416 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: gonna get into it. Forty to fifty sixty percent. Ford 417 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 2: is building a three billion dollar battery plant in southern 418 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: Tennessee as we speak, three billion Ford Motor Company. Where 419 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 2: are they going to get their minerals from? They all 420 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: come from China. What are they think's going on over there? 421 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 2: They think this is a bed of roses in China. 422 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 2: Right now, where we're going to be able to just 423 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: do and buy anything we want from China. That's not 424 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: going to happen. We're going to be behind the eight ball. 425 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: And of course, the very people on the left who 426 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: want to force you on an electric car are opposed 427 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: to mining those minerals in the United States, so they 428 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: want to block us from producing our own minerals. Who 429 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: are forcing us into buying batteries to use Chinese minerals, 430 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: and the whole thing is crazy. You recently introduced the 431 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: Stop Dangerous Sanctuary Cities Act. Can you explain what you're 432 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: trying to accomplish there? 433 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: Well, the biggest thing going on right now, and you 434 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: and I just talked about a lot of problems for 435 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: the last twenty twenty five minutes. The biggest problem in 436 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 2: our country right now is the border being open, you 437 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: can take away China. You listen to President Trump the 438 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 2: other day in his speech, he says, everything that's going on, 439 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: we're going to implode from within, and that is exactly 440 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: what's going on. Happened. I've been to the border several times. 441 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: People from one hundred and eighty four different countries have 442 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 2: come across the border, China, Russia. They're not coming here 443 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: to help us. They're coming in and take this country over. 444 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 2: And so we've got to stop these cities that are 445 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: basically on the verge of destruction anyway to continue to 446 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 2: allow people coming in there to be on welfare, to 447 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 2: be on food stamps, to put them up and spend 448 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 2: tax payers money. So we're trying to put some pressure 449 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: on these sanctuary cities where they've got some laws against 450 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 2: what they're doing, but they're not going to listen anyway. 451 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 2: We can push this all we want, but they're not 452 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: going to listen to it. But we've got to control 453 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 2: our border. New we might just be months away from 454 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 2: no return. It's just like the climate hoax that they're 455 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: pushing on us. We're going to get to the point 456 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: where what they're doing, there's no way to return back 457 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 2: to going back to fossil fuels. The same thing with 458 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 2: the border. They continue this, there's not going to be 459 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 2: in returned to normalcy down there. We're going to be 460 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 2: out of hand so much that the federal government's just 461 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 2: going to have to take over everything, and that's what 462 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 2: they want. 463 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: On the Secretary of Homeland Security test to Ice with 464 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: a straight face, he says, the border is under control. 465 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: How can he say something that's that patently dishonest. 466 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: They can't tell the truth. And the entire White House. 467 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: You listen to this young girl they get up there, 468 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: given briefings every day from the White House. She just 469 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: makes her own stuff up. They can't tell the truth. 470 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: They really can't. Nothing that they're doing is for the 471 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 2: American people is for big government. Nothing that they're doing 472 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 2: is to help educate our kids and give kids an 473 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: opportunity that you and I had growing up. Everything is 474 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: taken away to where it's total control. But big government, 475 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 2: the breocracy up here is just tenfold. It's out of hand. 476 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 2: We're dead broke, and they want to continue that path 477 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: to where again it says there's no return that even 478 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 2: when we do take over as Republican and as an 479 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: American group of people up here that wants to run 480 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: this government, it's going to be impossible to get it 481 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 2: turned around. 482 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: They're trying to dig such a deep hole that we 483 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: won't be able to fill it up. They still have 484 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: great faith in the American people, and I think that 485 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: they're going to support the kind of things you're doing. 486 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: And across the board, what you're doing is applying common 487 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: practical sense against a very radical, extremist agenda that the 488 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: other side is trying to push through no matter what. 489 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: And I think, frankly, leaders like you are making a 490 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: difference by having the courage to stand and fight and 491 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: to draw a line in the sand. And I agree 492 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: with you. I think on some of these issues they 493 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: really don't want to be recorded on the other side, 494 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: but they realize that back home some of the stuff 495 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: is so unpopular that it's going to become toxic to 496 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: their re election opportunities. I want to thank you for 497 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: joining me, but it's fascinating to watch you because you 498 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: had such a decisive career as a head coach. You 499 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: know so much about making decisions and living with them, 500 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: about having crowds that applaud one week and yell at 501 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: you the next week and just doing your job despite it. 502 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: And I think that's really served you well in the Senate. 503 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: I think it's allowed you to focus on what matters, 504 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: to not be too bounced around by the normal challenges 505 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: of politics. I want to wish you well, but I 506 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: also think that the people of Alabama did a great 507 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: thing in sending you to the Senate, and I think 508 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: you're going to be one of those senators who makes 509 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: a difference by having the courage to stand up and fight. 510 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: So I really appreciate you taking the time to share 511 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: with us what you're currently up to. 512 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 2: Well, thank you speaking. It's great to be on again. 513 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 2: But we work for the American people. I think sometimes 514 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 2: people ever forget that. We've got to build more jobs, 515 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: we've got to protect jobs, and we've got to give 516 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: people an education to where they can live a great life. 517 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 2: And right now, this federal government wants people not to 518 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 2: have a good education, not to have jobs, but work 519 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 2: for the government in terms of taking a paycheck. And 520 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: if we don't stop that, we're going to end up 521 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 2: just like a lot of these socialist countries across the 522 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: Big Pond. And we do not want that. We want 523 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 2: to be an American country that's got freedom and have 524 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 2: the rights to do whatever you want to do and 525 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 2: achieve whatever you want to achieve achieve. 526 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more and I really appreciate 527 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: you taking the time to share those thoughts with us. 528 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: Thank you to my guest Senator Coach Tommy Tubberville. You 529 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: can learn more about Coach Tuberville's work and the US 530 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: Senate on our show page at newsworld dot com. NEWT 531 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: World is produced by Gingrish three sixty and iHeartMedia. 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