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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: show on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: It is high noon in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. That means it's

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Speaker 2: our number three of our mini camp coverage here on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. It's a special edition of the Drive

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Speaker 2: West s Yuler Matt Williamson. An hour left here today

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Speaker 2: on our penn ultimate day down here in mister Rooney's

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Speaker 2: backyard at the upmc rooney Sports Complex. Practice will be

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Speaker 2: getting going here in about an hour. Plenty of moving

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Speaker 2: and shaking this morning. A lot of attention obviously on

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Speaker 2: the offense, Matt, as we've been discussing, and we all

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Speaker 2: know with the addition of Aaron Rodgers DK Metcalf being

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Speaker 2: here for the first time as well too, and.

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Speaker 3: That was mentioned too, like when we're down here, the

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Speaker 3: offense is in the correct the fields right in front

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Speaker 3: of us, correct roam around. We got these headsets on

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Speaker 3: and we're trotting with all you guys, so I don't

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Speaker 3: see much defense that.

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Speaker 4: Is exactly right.

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Speaker 2: And with that, as you can imagine, Arthur Smith a

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Speaker 2: popular person to talk to all the time, but especially

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Speaker 2: this week, and he took a few minutes after before.

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Speaker 3: We get there. I just want to make this note

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Speaker 3: too about Rogers adjusting to this offense. So I went

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Speaker 3: through it yesterday. But Arthur Smith and Lafloor were together

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Speaker 3: with the Titans. Lafloor gets a head job in Green Bay,

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Speaker 3: wants to take Arthur Smith with him. Rabel says, no,

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Speaker 3: we'll make you the offensive coordinator. So they were, and

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Speaker 3: then Lafloor coaches Rogers Bay.

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Speaker 4: They speak a lot of the same language.

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Speaker 3: So, including Lafloor, two of Rogers's last three play callers

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Speaker 3: were all from this tree, you know, including one with

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Speaker 3: the Jets. So his adjustment to this offense will take

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Speaker 3: five seconds, all right.

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Speaker 2: With the somewhat background that he already has his and

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Speaker 2: his footballing brain.

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Speaker 4: I think about two seconds is a good.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll be adding to it before you know

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Speaker 3: it completely digests it.

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Speaker 5: You know, I.

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Speaker 2: Completely agree Arthur Smith taking some time just about an

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Speaker 2: hour ago to catch up with the media and discuss

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Speaker 2: everything that's been happening this week at mini camp.

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Speaker 4: Here's what the Steelers OC had to say.

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Speaker 3: Hard things you can bring you to football.

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Speaker 6: There's a lot, you know, I've got to know Aaron

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Speaker 6: outside of football the last couple of years. I mean,

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Speaker 6: you're talking about one of the all time great quarterbacks

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Speaker 6: and the things he's accomplished in this league. Really enjoyed,

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Speaker 6: you know, obviously getting to know him as a you know, player, coach,

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Speaker 6: relationship with the football stuff. I'm just really excited.

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Speaker 5: To have him here. It's gonna be a fun journey.

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Speaker 6: Uh, you know, I know we're only a couple of

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Speaker 6: days in, but he's been awesome game.

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Speaker 5: Got a lot of things in the game. But he'll well,

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Speaker 5: you know, every year is going to be different.

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Speaker 6: You have ball depending on you know, obviously who you've

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Speaker 6: got personnel wise and strategically, you know, things you want

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Speaker 6: to evolve to. And that's a lot of times how

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Speaker 6: Rosterson's getting made. And then you see it through offseason acquisitions,

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Speaker 6: free agency draft. Uh, when you put those strategies in place,

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Speaker 6: like leave evallved every year, you know, you you have

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Speaker 6: to so a lot of times out of necessity. And really,

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Speaker 6: you know, had a a lot of different quarterbacks with

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Speaker 6: a lot of different skill sets, and in our job,

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Speaker 6: especially as a coach, is you know, play to the

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Speaker 6: strengths of your players. And then we have our foundation

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Speaker 6: things that don't change. But whether you lean into certain schemes,

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Speaker 6: you have to year you adapt again to the personnel

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Speaker 6: you've got. Uh, That's what we try to.

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Speaker 5: Do and ultimately to win games and and set guys

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how much have you been in playing to buy

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Speaker 2: in shananthan he does And how do you think that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was saying a lot of players I've had.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it just goes back to when you know,

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Speaker 6: I've been fortunate. I've been in a lot of different systems,

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Speaker 6: and even as a defensive coach, you're wondering terminology from

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Speaker 6: defensive coordinators, and you know when you get into the

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Speaker 6: some of the terms. It just helps you as you're

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Speaker 6: like you've got some fineriarity with it. So a little

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Speaker 5: I mean Matt change.

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Speaker 6: When Matt Lafleur and I were together in eighteen and

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Speaker 6: then he goes to Green Bay and I changed some terms.

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Speaker 6: You know, I changed some terms like the gating coordinator.

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Speaker 6: You know, whether you wanna call plays a little bit different,

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Speaker 6: problem solve. But you have reference points and that helps.

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Speaker 6: And uh, you know obviously no one Todd Downing who

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Speaker 5: With the Jets. Uh, you know you change. I got

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Speaker 6: I mean you always try to empower people and try

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Speaker 6: to improve as a coach. You know, you hire, you know,

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Speaker 6: staff changes. You try to if they's a better way

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Speaker 6: to call something or whatever, same thing. You pick players' brains.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you didn't never stop learning. I mean I

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Speaker 6: just think of guys. It's not always the starter. Like

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Speaker 6: I really appreciated Kyle Allen, and you know, he was

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Speaker 6: a guy who's been a different system to pick his brain,

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Speaker 6: how they did something in a place he's been and

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Speaker 6: that's how you learn and learn.

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Speaker 5: What other people are doing or something that may help you.

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Speaker 5: So it's no different with Aaron ever.

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Speaker 4: Think you just mentioned in powering the players and you

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Speaker 4: know it's a while until you get on the field

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Speaker 5: But how much freedom do you into private Aaron having

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Speaker 5: to be able to change the play call?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I know that's a hot button issue.

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Speaker 6: Here is the first place I've ever been in in

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Speaker 6: the NFL, Like you know, so you get a little

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Speaker 6: of the history of place. And again, every quarterback is different,

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Speaker 6: and every offensive scheme is different. And again I've never

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Speaker 6: here how he did things. So you know, sometimes when

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Speaker 6: a lot of times last year I've like every quarterback

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Speaker 6: so you know, not to get two people in the.

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Speaker 5: Weiser, the scheme.

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Speaker 6: But you're talking about we've got multiple things and have

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Speaker 6: just like we did last year, and it didn't change,

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Speaker 6: you know, with Justin or Russ and the way we

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Speaker 6: you want to put those in audibles. Great, but we

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Speaker 6: never fundamentally changed. I mean, we obviously schematically shifted to

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Speaker 6: but the operation ever changed. So whatever fantastical narrative was

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Speaker 6: that we're just calling plays of the line, I don't

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Speaker 5: Year wasn't good enough. And as a leader you take

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Speaker 6: But there's multiple issues and we got to be play

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Speaker 6: we're rolling. We didn't and that's where you got to

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Speaker 6: be accountable as a leader. And so obviously we had

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Speaker 6: a different set up this year roster wise, obviously new player,

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Speaker 6: it's d K, Aaron, some of the other guys we

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Speaker 6: every year's a different journey and it's a it's exciting,

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Speaker 6: uh to have Aaron here and to get to work

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Speaker 4: You guys get hold you guess they called them generals.

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Speaker 2: How it's a sort of interested with how good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a better question for Omar and Mike. But

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Speaker 6: just just I could tell you, cause I've bet in

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Speaker 6: about every building set up different, how they wanna do personnel,

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Speaker 6: personnel transactions. Sometimes you know, you get a list of

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Speaker 6: guys and you give your opinion, and my job is

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Speaker 6: so different from player to player.

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Speaker 5: But ultimately that's yeah, you know Omar and Mike and

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Speaker 5: those are those decisions, and that's a better question for them.

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Speaker 4: Have you fixed that four praying about what it's like

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Speaker 4: to do Sharon?

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Speaker 5: It all?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I talk to a lot of people, just as

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Speaker 6: Aaron probably talked a lot of people too.

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Speaker 5: I mean that's pretty normal. You know, any player you've had,

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Speaker 5: I mean, same thing with DK. You know, I had A. J.

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Speaker 6: Brown and then they were their good buddies and college teammates.

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Speaker 6: And he done his homework. I'd done my homework. It's

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Speaker 6: why you need to do it on the front end

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Speaker 5: In the draft to know the league.

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Speaker 6: And uh sure, but again, you know, take opinions for everybody.

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Speaker 6: But you know, circumstances changed, and you know when you

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Speaker 6: get til you really get to know somebody and who'll

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Speaker 6: spend a ton of bound.

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Speaker 5: Together and like come looking forward to him, what do

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Speaker 5: you think he does? Well? You know, with just this agent,

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Speaker 5: we face almost.

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Speaker 6: Sis and well, you know, you really look at the

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Speaker 6: end of last year. I mean, the guy's throwing the

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Speaker 6: mean you talk about one of the greatest passers in

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Speaker 6: the history of this game. I mean, uh, and not

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Speaker 6: many guys have thrown the ball from the football like

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Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 5: And obviously he's still doing that at a high level. Uh.

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Speaker 6: I believe he sets up in similar yesterday. You know, again,

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Speaker 6: where you have a guy like I had Matt Ryan

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Speaker 6: at in his career, not as a younger player, was

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Speaker 6: a little bit different, right, Uh, you know Aaron's you

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Speaker 6: don't sure, the way he sees the game is different

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Speaker 5: Early forties. But he's still throwing the ball at a

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Speaker 5: high level. Would you talk about offensive like ken? And

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Speaker 5: once he does ring the ball fourth most, you through

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Speaker 5: the balls second. So how do you marry you say

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Speaker 5: that again, I'm sorry you guys playing the ball.

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Speaker 2: Fourth most, you had the second most happen happen, So

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Speaker 5: You know, past happen kind of quarterbacks, the run.

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Speaker 6: Heading fourth game again, those are things I mean, ah,

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Speaker 6: I mean we end up having to throw it a

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Rolling along here down the home stretch, penultimate segment of

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Speaker 2: until one right here on Steelers Nation Radio. Before we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, work on the family relations and yeah and

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Speaker 3: And I think every team does this. But when they

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Speaker 4: There's there's no excuses.

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Speaker 3: Right of course.

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Speaker 2: Of course, with one of the shows that I do,

445
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Speaker 2: we have a potential big guest lined up for next week, okay,

446
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Speaker 2: and I already told my co hosts I'm out, can't

447
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Speaker 2: do it. I said, I'm going to be at the

448
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Speaker 2: beach next week. And I said, I said, if I

449
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Speaker 2: tell my wife that I have to disappear for an

450
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Speaker 2: hour to go to go to go interview somebody.

451
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Speaker 4: She will murder me. I will not have a wife anymore.

452
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Speaker 2: Right, she gets like six weeks, she gets like six

453
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Speaker 2: weeks a year where I could truly unplug, and I

454
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Speaker 2: better unplug, or she will eat me for dinner.

455
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I done. As you can imagine. I've done so

456
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Speaker 3: many radio hits and interviews from everywhere, everywhere you can imagine,

457
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Speaker 3: you know, like I'll get time for a fifteen minute

458
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Speaker 3: hits or whatever like this walk away for at least

459
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Speaker 3: a week or so.

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Speaker 5: You know.

461
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Speaker 3: Right, it's good for you.

462
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Speaker 4: It's very good for you.

463
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Speaker 2: It's healthy, it's needed because kind of like as we say,

464
00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,119
Speaker 2: tongue makes you better your job too.

465
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you've been long doing this, long enough to

466
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Speaker 3: realize sometimes I feel like I'm saying the same things

467
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Speaker 3: over and over.

468
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Speaker 4: Yes, it gets redundant.

469
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Speaker 3: You feel football on the beach too, don't get and

470
00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,960
Speaker 3: I'm reading, But you get a new perspective when you

471
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Speaker 3: don't say things over.

472
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Speaker 2: Is He just lets your you let your creativity kind

473
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Speaker 2: of refresh and replenish a little bit, you know. Yeah, yeah,

474
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Speaker 2: it is, as Aaron Rodgers, important for the soul what

475
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Speaker 2: do you got on the what do you got on

476
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Speaker 2: the docket for summer trips?

477
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Speaker 3: Much less than usual?

478
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Speaker 4: You know, you got to you gotta son you're moving

479
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Speaker 4: into right, you.

480
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Speaker 3: Know, like we're playing in a humongous graduation party that

481
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Speaker 3: just keeps growing and growing and growing and then getting

482
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Speaker 3: him ready for school. I'm gonna take him. He's going

483
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Speaker 3: to the University of Kentucky. I'm gonna take him for

484
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Speaker 3: a day of orientation, which I can't wait this to

485
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Speaker 3: see the campus and that kind of stuff.

486
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Speaker 4: Toot Lexington and some of the establishments there.

487
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Speaker 3: Usually we have a nice expensive trip every year, but

488
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Speaker 3: I think college is the expensive thing this year, and

489
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Speaker 3: then my daughter will be the next year doing the

490
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Speaker 3: exact same thing. So yeah, So like our big purchase,

491
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Speaker 3: as I mentioned you off the air is a one

492
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Speaker 3: of those drink mixers that slushy lushy machines that just

493
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Speaker 3: got ordered yesterday, that should be here any minute now.

494
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Speaker 4: So for all the time, all the time you're gonna

495
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Speaker 4: spend at the house this summer.

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Speaker 3: Right right, Yeah, And that's kind of where I was,

497
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Speaker 3: that's our vacation.

498
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Speaker 2: That's kind of where I was the past previous summers

499
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Speaker 2: because as you know, my my wife and I have

500
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Speaker 2: had two kids in the last few years.

501
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Speaker 4: It's right, it gets tough, it gets it gets tough

502
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Speaker 4: to take a long trip.

503
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so we would just kind of do like

504
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Speaker 2: long weekends here and there, not too far away. But

505
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Speaker 2: we're getting back to the grind of you know, going

506
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Speaker 2: to Hilton Head for a few weeks, going to out

507
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Speaker 2: to the Jersey Shore with her family for a full week.

508
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Speaker 4: But I'm really looking forward to it. But of course

509
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Speaker 4: obviously plenty more than.

510
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Speaker 3: Also, I mean considering my I know a ton of

511
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Speaker 3: my son's friends and their dads too, So we've gone

512
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Speaker 3: to a million graduation parties too in the last couple

513
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Speaker 3: of weeks. More coming up, so it's not like we're

514
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Speaker 3: not doing things. I feel like we're busier than ever.

515
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Speaker 2: But in another another four, five, six years, all those

516
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Speaker 2: kids that are having grab parties now will be having weddings,

517
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Speaker 2: and you'll be You'll be You'll be going to all

518
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Speaker 2: their weddings four five, six, seven years from now.

519
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Speaker 4: It never ends in these different phases of life.

520
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Speaker 2: But as this phase of the off season gets closer

521
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Speaker 2: to conclusion, yeah, we're we got another proud.

522
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Speaker 4: At halftime here another another.

523
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Speaker 2: Practice this afternoon, and then and then tomorrow, and then

524
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Speaker 2: that'll be it for that little pause period that we discussed.

525
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Speaker 2: I did want to ask you about some of the

526
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Speaker 2: things that Arthur Smith discussed UH today.

527
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Speaker 3: He said, a lot of good stuff there.

528
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Speaker 2: A lot of good stuff there, namely and hey, this

529
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Speaker 2: might be starting with some low hanging fruit. But one

530
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Speaker 2: of the lines that he had there that I wrote

531
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Speaker 2: down was, every year we have to improve.

532
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Speaker 4: As an offense.

533
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Speaker 3: It's a great way looking at it, right.

534
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Speaker 2: Where's the number one area this year of improvements? Is

535
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Speaker 2: it in a red zone? Is it on third downs?

536
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Speaker 2: Is it in the run game efficiency? Where is it

537
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Speaker 2: going to be? Where would you like it to be?

538
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Speaker 3: So I've had two huge themes of the Steelers that

539
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Speaker 3: I've been harping on heavily this offseason that I think

540
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Speaker 3: can take the team as a whole to the next step.

541
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Speaker 3: And it might not seem like much, but when you

542
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Speaker 3: look at team yards per carry they were they were

543
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Speaker 3: at the bottom league last year. And we know they've

544
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Speaker 3: all they run the ball a lot. We know they're

545
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Speaker 3: gonna run the ball a lot, but you can't I

546
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Speaker 3: think they were at four oh or four to one

547
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Speaker 3: yards per carry, and there was only two or three

548
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Speaker 3: teams below them, you know, so it doesn't seem like

549
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Speaker 3: a lot, and it really isn't. But if you could

550
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Speaker 3: get this team over the course and down I did

551
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Speaker 3: the math of it, and how much, how many more

552
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Speaker 3: yardage it would produce, et cetera, seventeen games plus playoffs.

553
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Speaker 3: If you could go from four to h four to

554
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Speaker 3: one to four three or four four, I'm not even

555
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Speaker 3: talking about best in the league. I mean the Eagles

556
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Speaker 3: were at like.

557
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Speaker 4: Five and the number is insane. I'm not mar Jackson.

558
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Speaker 3: Yeah right, if you could get to fourteenth in the

559
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Speaker 3: league as much as you run the ball, and how

560
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Speaker 3: many third and longs you'd be out of To me,

561
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Speaker 3: that has to be like the biggest overriding goal and

562
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Speaker 3: big picture type goal on that side of the ball.

563
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Speaker 3: That if I were, uh, you know, the head coach

564
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Speaker 3: of the team, like a couple of things we need

565
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Speaker 3: to get done this offseason to prepare ourselves to be

566
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Speaker 3: more successful during the season. On offense, I need that

567
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Speaker 3: run game to produce zero point three more yards per carry.

568
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Speaker 3: We're not These aren't insane goals. I'm not saying Pat

569
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Speaker 3: Mahomes has the fall of the sky and you know,

570
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Speaker 3: justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase, I mean, I'm not talking

571
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Speaker 3: about insane goals. Let's get this running game to be

572
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Speaker 3: more efficient. Is the word you said. You know, you

573
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Speaker 3: know it's gonna be voluminous.

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Speaker 4: I love that word voluminous.

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Speaker 3: You're spot on, And I don't think that's much much

576
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Speaker 3: to ask.

577
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Speaker 4: I don't think that that's much to ask.

578
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Speaker 2: Yeah, with the addition of Aaron Rodgers, DK Metcalf an

579
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Speaker 2: offensive line that should stake it take a step forward

580
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Speaker 2: a little bit older, right, Caleb Johnson, that we're excited

581
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Speaker 2: about Sharan Warren, who's capable of your two of the scheme,

582
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Speaker 2: Year two of the scheme, all these things, and I

583
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Speaker 2: think a lot of this works in concert with some

584
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Speaker 2: of the conversations about the run game and where the

585
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Speaker 2: Jets numbers were last year that we were having early

586
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Speaker 2: on in the program as well too, because.

587
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Speaker 3: Youish rushing at them.

588
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Speaker 2: For example, we got a couple tweets when we were

589
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Speaker 2: talking about that how the Jets were at the bottom

590
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Speaker 2: of the league and rushing attempts, and you know that

591
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Speaker 2: won't be the case for Aaron Rodgers team this year,

592
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Speaker 2: you know, like we got a couple tweets from people,

593
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Speaker 2: you know an hour or two ago, like are we

594
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Speaker 2: sure Aaron Rodgers is gonna let them run as much

595
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Speaker 2: as you guys think?

596
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Speaker 5: So?

597
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Speaker 3: All right, you said, Jets fans hounded me with that, like, oh,

598
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Speaker 3: he doesn't know what he's getting into. Williamson doesn't know. Okay,

599
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Speaker 3: who's gonna tell him? They kept saying, you know, like

600
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Speaker 3: like yeah, we'll see.

601
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Speaker 2: But you could still have a net success, a net

602
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Speaker 2: improvement even if voluminous. Right, you go down a little bit,

603
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Speaker 2: but you're much more efficient, Like that would still work out.

604
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Speaker 2: If we're gonna go down a little bit in volume

605
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Speaker 2: but get more efficient.

606
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Speaker 3: Great, right, And I'm not asking to be top ten, Frankly,

607
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Speaker 3: there's some things working against the Steelers. Is they don't

608
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Speaker 3: have a quarterback that's gonna run for a lot of

609
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Speaker 3: yards justin fields helped their cause obviously, Lamar, we talked

610
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Speaker 3: about hurts. I mean, the team's at the top of

611
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Speaker 3: the list, even Allen, right, and even like here's a

612
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Speaker 3: crazy stat for you, like before Derrick Henry even became

613
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Speaker 3: a raven, running backs who really weren't that good, like

614
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Speaker 3: Dobbins and Edwards and Gus Edwards and dudes like that

615
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Speaker 3: averaged five yards of carry when Lamar Jackson was on

616
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Speaker 3: the field, you know, like Chris Johnson ran for all

617
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Speaker 3: his yards when Vince Young was on the field. You know,

618
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Speaker 3: like correct TJ. Duckett and wark done. If you go

619
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Speaker 3: in the way back machine with Vic Segan.

620
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Speaker 4: Barkley just had one of the best seasons of all

621
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Speaker 4: time for a running back with Jalen Hurt.

622
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Speaker 3: So there's not only does your quarterback contribute chunk runs

623
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Speaker 3: which the Steelers won't, but he also makes it harder,

624
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Speaker 3: as the Steelers found out in the playoff game, to

625
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Speaker 3: defend the running.

626
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Speaker 4: Back guys in the run game. Not ten.

627
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Speaker 3: So I'm not shooting for top ten. I mean, that's

628
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Speaker 3: the structure of the offense considering the quarterback running stuff

629
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Speaker 3: won't be there. I also don't think despite Kayler Johnson

630
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Speaker 3: breaking off a lot of long runs at Iowa, even

631
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Speaker 3: though he didn't run a grade forty, he does have

632
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Speaker 3: a lot of long runs. I don't think they're gonna

633
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Speaker 3: get many eighty yards sake one runs, you know what

634
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Speaker 3: I mean. I mean Jamal Charles or Chris Johnson or

635
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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, so, I don't think their running

636
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Speaker 3: backs will be at the top of the league. That's

637
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Speaker 3: why I'm not asking for much. Just give me zero

638
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Speaker 3: point three more yards per carry. We don't have to

639
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 3: get the five, you know, just you can't beat the bottom.

640
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Speaker 2: But over the course of the game, that gives you

641
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: twenty extra rushing yards, right, twenty five extra rushing yard,

642
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 2: more first downs, three less serious.

643
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Speaker 3: For long time of possession, goes off on many defense, right,

644
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 3: little things that add up dramatically over the course weeks,

645
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 3: you know, right, right, right right, and defense gets a

646
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: little bit more of a breather. You're a little more physical.

647
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 3: Four fourth quarters go your way a little more because

648
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 3: you've been pounding the rock, you know what I mean, Like,

649
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 3: just give me a little more. Boxes get a little

650
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 3: more full when Rogers hits metcalf over the top one

651
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Speaker 3: more time the course of the year.

652
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Speaker 2: Little things, yep, I I think that that is like

653
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Speaker 2: that is I would have been in lockstep with you

654
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,719
Speaker 2: on everything right there. I think it's not that much

655
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Speaker 2: ask It's not that that's that's what makes it I

656
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 2: think exciting and realistic is you You You're not asking

657
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: to reinvent the wheel. You're just asking to get a

658
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: little bit better in an area that you should clearly

659
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Speaker 2: be able to with what you have now at quarterback

660
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Speaker 2: and the investment you've made around them. Okay, so I'm

661
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: with you on that run game efficiency has to improve

662
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Speaker 2: as an offense this year. Anything else stand out to you?

663
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Speaker 2: Third down efficiency, red zone efficiency. It feels like it's

664
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Speaker 2: been an issue in the red zone the last Yeah,

665
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Speaker 2: just talking offense, This one I.

666
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Speaker 3: Almost know will happen unless there's a bunch of O

667
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: line injuries, but sack sacks allowed will go down. And

668
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 3: people know I'm into my numbers, Matt stats, et cetera,

669
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 3: et cetera. But this is one of my favorites from

670
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Speaker 3: last year's team that I think should be extremely encouraging

671
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 3: for our listeners is I think everyone at this point

672
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 3: knows what a pressure is. You know, it's now an

673
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 3: official stats. Watt had one sack and the six pressures

674
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 3: in this game. You know everyone knows what a pressure is.

675
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 3: But if you break it down even further, what is

676
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: the average time to pressure? Okay, so when a pressure

677
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 3: is recorded against the Steelers, how many seconds or point seconds?

678
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 3: You know, two point three, three point six whatever seconds

679
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 3: were off the clock on average. Well, their number of

680
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 3: time to pressure offensively was very high, which is exactly

681
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: what you want. By the time we allow a pressure,

682
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: it was very late in the down. Yes, the only

683
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 3: teams better were the Chiefs and the raven And they

684
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 3: have extremely mobile quarterbacks. They're the the best offenses in

685
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: the league. You know, like they're going to be great

686
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Speaker 3: at this. So their time to pressure was third best

687
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: in the league. That means to me and the tape

688
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 3: backs us up that the pass protection was fine, but

689
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 3: the sacks, which were high, is on the quarterbacks and

690
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: they won't be with Rod, they won't be Like I

691
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: can promise you that will get better. You know what

692
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 3: I mean. The ball's gonna come out. The ball's gonna

693
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 3: come out.

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Speaker 5: You know.

695
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: It's like you hear the term coverage sacks sometimes, right,

696
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: Like I thin there's there's like a quarterback sack as

697
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: well too.

698
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 3: Dale and I talk about this all the time. The

699
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 3: same is true for pressures, but it's more relevant with sacks.

700
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 3: It's as much and maybe even more a quarterback stat

701
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: than an offensive line stat. Peyton Manning didn't take sack completely.

702
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: I mean, you know what you know, yeah, and I

703
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: forget who it was. It's one of the Oh it's Aikman.

704
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: Aikman is you know who's on the radio or on

705
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: TV all the time. Has really come around to this.

706
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: And I've heard him publicly say this on Game day.

707
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 4: Broad broadcast with Joe Budd.

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00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 3: You know that He'll say, you don't have to take

709
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: a sack if you don't want you right how if

710
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: you think about it, there's a way that I don't

711
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: take a sack, And sacks are massive drive killers time

712
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: and time again. Don't take the sack, you know, thirty

713
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Speaker 3: feet you know what I mean? Like man you know,

714
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: don't take the hit. I mean Manning never took it,

715
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 3: never never, you know, right the ball balls out of there,

716
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 3: We're gonna take it right now. He's not gonna take

717
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 3: that many sacks.

718
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 4: No, especially not at this stage for his career.

719
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Speaker 3: And so those are two things that have a huge

720
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 3: ripple effect. I don't know if the ground, if the

721
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: yards for carry thing will improve, but I'll be critical

722
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: if it doesn't.

723
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Speaker 4: Yes, I think that's fair. Yea, it better improved it better.

724
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: I'm sure the sack thing will improve.

725
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, you feel even more confident about that than the

726
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Speaker 4: run game because the quarterback, because the quarterback.

727
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and then the numbers already showed that when

728
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: they were allowing bad things to happen in their quarterback

729
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 3: in the passing game, it was late in the down

730
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 3: right now, if they the hole for offensive line gets hurt,

731
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Speaker 3: it's me and you block it.

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Speaker 2: For them, right, different conversation. I don't like our chances

733
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Speaker 2: very much, even with a guy like Aaron Rodgers behind us.

734
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: Mouths Garrett and right, yeah, well did you see him

735
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: running his mouth again yesterday? No, they asked him, and

736
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Speaker 2: to be fair, like he's asked the question, he answers it. Yeah,

737
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: it's a lot of tiring. A lot of times. I

738
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: feel a lot of times I feel like guys get

739
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Speaker 2: crushed for the questions that they're asked.

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Speaker 5: Like.

741
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Speaker 4: It's not like he was went out there and talked

742
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 4: about Aaron Rodgers.

743
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Speaker 2: He was asked yesterday after practice by one of you know,

744
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: he's doing one of those classic media scrumbs and someone says,

745
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: any thoughts on Aaron Rodgers officially being in the division

746
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: as a as a Steeler And he goes, yeah, you know,

747
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: one more bodied it for me to add to the graveyard,

748
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: you know, like something like that, because that's his whole

749
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 2: thing thing.

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Speaker 4: When he sacks a quarterback, he adds them to the graveyard.

751
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: And everyone's hating it. But if he was a Steeler

752
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 3: would think it's funny.

753
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: But there is also something, And there is the Pittsburgh

755
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: in the Cleveland so always and the what Garrett thing too,

756
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: For an organization that is like they are many, they.

757
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 4: Make a lot of noise.

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Speaker 2: They make a lot of noise for being at the

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Speaker 2: bottom of the barrel. And I know he's great, and

760
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: I know he's been a defensive Player of the Year,

761
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: but he.

762
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 4: Makes a lot of noise too.

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Speaker 2: Every time he's on national TV, he's taking shots at

764
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: TJ and Max Crosby and and Micah Parsons and you know,

765
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Speaker 2: oh my.

766
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Speaker 4: Goodness, it's just hey when.

767
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Speaker 2: Some when when some game, I mean, he just he

768
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: was just crapping on his own organization a couple months ago,

769
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: talking about how he's not gonna win here.

770
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Speaker 3: And now they throw at the problem, which is what

771
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: they always do.

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Speaker 2: Well, all of a sudden, he's gonna he's gonna add

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Speaker 2: maybe the best quarterback of all time to the graveyard.

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Speaker 4: All right, just settled down.

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Speaker 2: A couple more things here as we round out the

776
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Speaker 2: show and kind of this hour of offense and improvement

777
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Speaker 2: conversation that I want to get to you with a

778
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Speaker 2: little bit more on red zone efficiency to close the

779
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Speaker 2: show down, and we will turn if that, If that

780
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: works out all right for you, we will do all

781
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Speaker 2: of that and more as we wrap this thing up

782
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Speaker 2: on the other side Westfielders.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's get into all of that to close

785
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Speaker 2: this thing down when we return on the other side

786
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Speaker 2: on our penultimate day of Mini camp, having some fun

787
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Speaker 2: on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: One more segment to go.

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Speaker 2: It's a special edition of the Drive here on Steelers

790
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Speaker 2: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale, Lolly and Matt Williamson

792
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold, Steeler Nation Radio.

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00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: It's the final segment here on a beautiful Wednesday of

795
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Speaker 2: Mini Camp coverage on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

796
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Speaker 2: Audio Network. A special edition of the Drive. Myself and

797
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson with you here. We got the skinnered crankin Matt.

798
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: The music is on, the sun is out. It's good,

799
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Speaker 2: it's go time, baby, It certainly is.

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Speaker 3: It's bringing players on the field, your beauty.

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00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: Say.

802
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: When the music turns on and all the you know,

803
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: the photographers and video people start to gather around the entrance,

804
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: that's when you know it's go time. Tunes are cranking,

805
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: the content, people are ready for the content, and we

806
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Speaker 2: are putting a bow on this show. It is our

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Speaker 2: eighth that we have done down here in total, between

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Speaker 2: OTA's and Mini Camp. We have the ninth and final

809
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: show from ten until one tomorrow on Thursday, as not

810
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: like Leonard Skinner, but much like Led Zeppelin, will bring

811
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: it on home tomorrow. But before we get there, Matt,

812
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Speaker 2: a final piece of this conversation, I want to talk

813
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: to you a little bit about red zone efficiency.

814
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you pointed some things out off the air that

815
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: are disturbing.

816
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: In twenty eighteen, and that was the last year the

817
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: Steelers had Antonio Brown. That was also important to note

818
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 2: the last year before Ben Roethlisberger had his major elbow injury.

819
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: As great as ab is and useful to any team,

820
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 3: to say the least, I think it's more quarterback than.

821
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: I no doubt, no doubt. And James Connor had a

822
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 2: great season that year as well too. It was a

823
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: pro bowler.

824
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 3: Physical short yardage red zone two.

825
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they were first in the league in red

826
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Speaker 2: zone efficiency and nom that for those that's how often

827
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: you're scoring a touchdown when you get to the red zone? Right?

828
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 3: Not righting for three, it's you put it in the paint?

829
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 4: How often?

830
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: How often that you are getting seven points out of there?

831
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 2: Seventy three point five percent of the time, So nearly

832
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Speaker 2: nearly seventy five percent of the time they manage the

833
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Speaker 2: red zone.

834
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 4: They scored a touchdown in twenty twenty yards.

835
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Speaker 3: That's not necessarily getting down to two. You know what

836
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 3: I mean?

837
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: That is like, that's elite. I mean that is that

838
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,479
Speaker 2: is outstanding. This year, only one team was above seventy percent.

839
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: It was the ball Moore Ravens, first in the league.

840
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 3: Cause think about it. Sometimes on a third down you

841
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 3: might get stopped on the nineteen yard line and it's

842
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: fourth and one. Correct, that's a failed red zone of town. Correct,

843
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Exactly right, got in there,

844
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 3: but you didn't put it in the paint.

845
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: Exactly right, Yeah, exactly right. How often you're inside the

846
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: twenty that you are you are putting it in the paint.

847
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: Baltimore was first last year, Buffalo, Detroit, Tampa Bay A

848
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: lot of teams.

849
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: The most successful teams only the most successful.

850
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Speaker 4: Washington was sixth.

851
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 3: Washington was crazy. Just a side note, they were like

852
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 3: eighty percent of four thousands too, Like they won't keep

853
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 3: that up.

854
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: No, no, they will not.

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00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 5: Uh.

856
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 4: Philadelphia, the Super Bowl champions, were tenth in this category.

857
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 3: Their collective win totals were for those teams the Steels.

858
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: The Steelers were twenty ninth in the league. Only New England,

859
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: Dallas and the Giants. Company You Did Not Want to

860
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: Keep was worse than the Steelers.

861
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 3: Dallas did in dak from US of the year right exactly.

862
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: Just forty eight point two percent of the time. The

863
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: Steelers were in the red zone last year, uh, scoring

864
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: touchdowns the season before.

865
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Speaker 4: Matt not much better.

866
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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty three, they were twenty fifth overall, once

867
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Speaker 2: again below that fifty percent market forty eight percent.

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00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 4: Uh.

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00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 2: And if I could go through twenty twenty two to

870
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 2: twenty one bad twenty nineteen they were dead last.

871
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 4: In the league, right, bad, bad bad?

872
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 2: How does how can having a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers help?

873
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: And what is another one? Of these kind of key

874
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: efficiency type of indicators.

875
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, so many of these. You know we talked about this.

876
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 4: Time teams in the league or at the top of

877
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 4: these lists.

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00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean I don't reference Matt stats that much,

879
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 3: but when we break that stuff down during the week,

880
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 3: during the season, there's so many of these little outlier

881
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: stats that add up hitting, yardage, penalties, you know, things

882
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: like that. You know that over the course of the

883
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 3: you look at the box score, they don't you don't

884
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 3: really on top of that. First of all, what if

885
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 3: they didn't at Bosworth?

886
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 4: What if you had a Boswell kicker? I do that,

887
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 4: good lord Brian Bosworth.

888
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 3: But what if they'd a bad kicker over those five years,

889
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: you know, and you're settling for three and he's missing mission.

890
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: At least you could go to Atlanta and the season

891
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 2: opener and Boswell makes five field goals, six field goals

892
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 2: and has a big punt.

893
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 4: For you at the end of the game too, they

894
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 4: would not have You could get.

895
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 3: Out of there with a victory, but Tomlin streak would

896
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 3: not be there, no doubt, you know, No, I mean

897
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 3: that's a lot of points you could have left on

898
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: the field with a bad kicker. I mean, if you

899
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 3: would have been the opposite end, not even having one

900
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 3: of the best, I think a lot of its quarterback

901
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 3: Now that's kind of the short answer.

902
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: I mean, look at the teams that are at the

903
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: top of the list quarterbacks Lamar and Josh Allen and

904
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: Jared Goff and Baker Mayfield and Joe Burrow and Jaden Daniels.

905
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I also think they've had a subparo line

906
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: for a lot of that stretch too. I mean there's

907
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 3: sometimes where you just need to get behind Pennay Soul

908
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 3: with David Montgomery and pick up the two yard, get

909
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: behind dirt, get behind Fanica, you know whatever. So hopefully

910
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 3: that's trending the right direction. I think it is. Fields

911
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 3: traditionally has been a bad red zone quarterback, and but

912
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: Wilson has traditionally been a very good yeah, you know

913
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 3: from last year. I mean a very high touchdown guy.

914
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: Rogers has always been great in his career. Of course,

915
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: that's a great question. I mean we could sit here

916
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 3: and blame play calling. Matt Canada good in the red zone. No,

917
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: he really wasn't.

918
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 4: But I mean is that I mean, it's not like

919
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 4: I took a big step forward last, right?

920
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 3: Or were they great before him? Were they great after him?

921
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 5: Right?

922
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 2: No, haven't been great since two thousand and eight. I

923
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 2: mean you've been great at this since ab and James

924
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: Connor were still in the.

925
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: Bend was at his best? I mean that's the shortest answer.

926
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: But it's a group problem too. Could they throw to

927
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 3: tight ends more? Could they have a big body go

928
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 3: up and get it? Receiver Pickens kind of had that.

929
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I don't have a short answer other

930
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: than quarterback. Yeah, but I do think it's a collective problem.

931
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 3: But it's a problem. Yeah, oh no, it's a lot

932
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 3: of points. I do think a running quarterback helps.

933
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 5: You.

934
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 2: Look at most of the teams at the top of

935
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 2: this legue other than it was I was gonna say,

936
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: like even the Baker may Fields and the Joe Burrows,

937
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: they move, they run.

938
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: They oh yeah, yeah, they're not statues, but right, you know,

939
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 3: an improv quarterback, you know, the Lamar and those type.

940
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 2: Of like Chicago was top ten on this list despite

941
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: the terrible year that they had last year. But I

942
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 2: think a lot of that is probably because the skill

943
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 2: set of Caleb Willis.

944
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 3: And steroids and stairway Wednesday.

945
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 4: It's right.

946
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 2: Because yeah, because you because even a guy, even a

947
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: guy like like Caleb Williams, who had obviously well documented

948
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: struggles in the organization, in the offense, he took a

949
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: ton of sacks and they were seventh best at this

950
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: in the league because he's mobile and he could do

951
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 2: the improvised thing.

952
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 4: He can run.

953
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: Even Carolina, like Chicago is so efficient if you can.

954
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 2: Chicago and Carolina are the two outliers of teams here

955
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 2: in the top ten who had bad years.

956
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 4: When you think about the type of quarterbacks that they have,

957
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 4: it makes sense.

958
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: And Bryce Young and Caleb Williams guys that can move,

959
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 2: guys that can use their legs, guys that can add.

960
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 4: So everybody passed out.

961
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 3: It's like, you guys like the music.

962
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 4: You guys like the music.

963
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: You want to tune me into the music on Wednesdays, they.

964
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 4: Gotta love it.

965
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: Listen if they want to play some skinnered in, some

966
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 2: ACDC and some Zeppelin, that is h That is fine,

967
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: but don't listen. Don't throw some grateful dead on next

968
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: or I'll have to get up and damn might happen.

969
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: How much of the skill set that Aaron Rodgers possession

970
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: so as I think we were in agreement that.

971
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: A lot of it's not as good of an improv

972
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: guy as he once was.

973
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: He is not right, but I think he, as you

974
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: have alluded too many times, his above shoulder stuff is outstanding,

975
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: elite dynamic. And I think too maybe his willingness to

976
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: use the middle of the field might help in this

977
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: regard as well.

978
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 3: And he's not bashful, I mean like he will definitely

979
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 3: thread the needle or attempts to, you know what I mean, Like,

980
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 3: he's not going to be bashful. I this might go

981
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 3: without saying, but why is red zone so toughs You're

982
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 3: putting twenty two guys in a thirty yard stretch, including

983
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 3: the end zone at most, and there's just not as

984
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 3: much going on, so everything has to be crisper, you know,

985
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: your anticipation has to be better, your accuracy. Windows at

986
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 3: the windows are smaller. I mean, it's it's always it's

987
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 3: going to be harder. It's just a lot of bodies

988
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 3: and frankly, if the first play call or your first

989
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 3: read doesn't happen, well, now it's improv time a little

990
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 3: bit more so then I can maybe pat the ball

991
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 3: and there's a lot more field to defend, et cetera,

992
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 3: et cetera. So that'll be a test because I thought

993
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 3: for sure, and I guess it was. They did throw

994
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 3: for more touchdowns than There was a stretch there where

995
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 3: they had like thirteen touchdown passes in a season, right,

996
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: I mean, there was some not rare numbers. I mean,

997
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 3: so last year was better in terms of touchdown passes,

998
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 3: but a lot of them did come from distance on

999
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: moonballs and stuff too. So I expect Rogers to be

1000
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: better at it. Will they lead the league?

1001
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 5: No?

1002
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: Probably not so, Like Kansas City is another outlier. They

1003
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: were twenty first, so they're back in the.

1004
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: Bottom half at everything. I have there in the top

1005
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 3: half this year, right, you know what I mean. But

1006
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 3: even if Kelsey and Mahomes and that's probably an outlier

1007
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 3: for them.

1008
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: You know, the Chargers were eighteenth, San Francisco was fourteenth.

1009
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: Something in that range would work. Oh yeah, yeah, even again,

1010
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: don't Minnesota's nineteenth, you know what I mean, Like in

1011
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: that range, just give me, give me in the in

1012
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: the twelve to twenty one range, you know exactly.

1013
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 3: It's kind of like the ards per carry thing. Just

1014
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: don't be the worst, Just don't be at bottom third,

1015
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: get what at bottom ten percent?

1016
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: So, like I said, last year, the Steelers forty eight

1017
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: percent of the time forty eight point two percent of

1018
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: the time scored touchdowns in the red zone. If they

1019
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: just got to fifty six percent, that would put them

1020
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,479
Speaker 2: sixteenth in the league, right in the middle.

1021
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: Again, it's a lot like the yards per carry thing.

1022
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: It's we're not asking for you to make twenty percent more, right,

1023
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: you know, right, I mean, these are incremental changes that

1024
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 3: maybe the quarterbacks.

1025
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: Enough, certainly, and like you said, the improv element is

1026
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: obviously not there for Aaron Rodgers at his age like

1027
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: it was at times earlier in his career and is

1028
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: with some of these new very mobile quarterbacks.

1029
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 3: But hopefully also now that I think about it, too,

1030
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 3: is a large stretch of that what five year stretch

1031
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 3: one of the youngest offenses in the league too, to

1032
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 3: young offense in the road on the road, tight quarters,

1033
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: blah blah.

1034
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 4: No more ab no more leve Bell, no more, no

1035
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 4: more to Castro, no more Ben Right.

1036
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I think red zone and third downs and

1037
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 3: things like that, youth shows up more totally, no question,

1038
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 3: you know, Because.

1039
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: Again, where those windows shrink, where that margin for air

1040
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 2: shrinks right right, that you know that game savvy brain, Yeah,

1041
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: that you that you.

1042
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 4: Always talk about. I think that's that's a great point.

1043
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 2: That's definitely you think of how experienced their quarterback was,

1044
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 2: their skill position players, their offensive line at that time

1045
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 2: compared to now where they're hopefully have the foundation laid

1046
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 2: to get to that point.

1047
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 4: But that was them firing on all cylinders.

1048
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:41,959
Speaker 3: And we know it won't be the case yet again

1049
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: this year, but it's nice having the same quarterback year

1050
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 3: after year two totally. You know there's gonna be probably

1051
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: growing pains early in the season all those years with

1052
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 3: a new quarterback, right.

1053
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: And even listen, I pointed that twenty eighteen years the

1054
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 2: crowning example. I mean, the Steelers led the league and

1055
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: nearly seventy five percent of the time in the red

1056
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 2: zone they scored a touchdown, which is just crazy. You

1057
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: also had Juju Smith Schuster right as a number two

1058
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: wide receiver going over a thousand yards.

1059
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: And that's when the line had like no turnover. You know,

1060
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 3: it was the same five.

1061
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: Free Pro bowlers on that offensive line when when Big

1062
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: Owl was making it there for a year or.

1063
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 3: Two and like the Owls and Fosters were still there

1064
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 3: year after year, and it was a lot of the

1065
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 3: same people.

1066
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: You know it was it was, and so hopefully that's

1067
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: what we're building towards. But in the meantime, let's see

1068
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: that in the matt I think, if you know, if

1069
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: you and I are sitting here three hundred and sixty

1070
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: five ish days from now and we're talking about how

1071
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: the offense succeeded and becoming more efficient in the run game,

1072
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: more efficient in the red zone, I think there's a

1073
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: much better chance that we enjoyed the end of the

1074
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: season much more than we did than we did.

1075
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 3: This previous year.

1076
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 2: Matthew, the players are trickling out onto the field here,

1077
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: the stairway is getting ready to rip into a wonderful

1078
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: Jimmy Page solo.

1079
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 4: That means it is time. That means it is time

1080
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 4: for us to get up out of here.

1081
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: But before we do so, a big thank you to

1082
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: Justin back at the ranch, our guy CJ here on site,

1083
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,959
Speaker 2: and everybody that is part of the facilities of getting

1084
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: us set up down here as well too. We will

1085
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: be back for tomorrow for our final live shows on

1086
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: location live shows until we get to training camps. So

1087
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 2: make sure you don't miss it ten to one on

1088
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: SNR for Matt Williamson and Dale Lawllie. I'm Wes s Huler.

1089
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,960
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1090
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,360
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1091
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1092
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,640
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