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Speaker 1: On this Thursday, we'll check in with the Kentucky head
Speaker 1: coach John Calipering. He'll join us momentarily. Brian Scalabrini, former
Speaker 1: NBA player now a broadcaster for the Celtics NBC Sports Boston.
Speaker 2: He'll join us.
Speaker 1: After what he saw last night, Celtics dominated the seventy
Speaker 1: six ers, Joe Ellenbi came back, wasn't at full strength.
Speaker 1: And here's his head coach Doc Rivers talking about the
Speaker 1: MVP's performance.
Speaker 3: You know, early on, I thought he got a rhythm
Speaker 3: a couple of times, and I thought we were out
Speaker 3: of rhythm as well.
Speaker 4: But we expected that.
Speaker 3: We knew they were going to have to be some
Speaker 3: kind of growing pains bringing them back, and you know,
Speaker 3: so I'm glad we got it out of the way today.
Speaker 1: You got him back, got you know maybe his legs
Speaker 1: underneath him a little bit. He was wearing a brace
Speaker 1: and wasn't really a factor, But then nobody was really
Speaker 1: a factor for Philadelphia. They got what they wanted. They
Speaker 1: got the split. I wouldn't have had imbid go to
Speaker 1: Boston and play in the game. I would have had
Speaker 1: him wait a couple more days and then maybe you
Speaker 1: get him to be one hundred percent healthy or as
Speaker 1: close to that as possible. But you got the split.
Speaker 1: That's what you needed, that's what you wanted. Now you
Speaker 1: go back home. The Lakers they want more than a
Speaker 1: split at Golden State Game two coming up tonight, But
Speaker 1: Golden State is favored by six in that game. And
Speaker 1: in case you're wondering for entertainment purposes, only the over
Speaker 1: under for Anthony Davis twenty six and a half Lebron
Speaker 1: twenty five and a half. Steph Curry over under is
Speaker 1: thirty and a half. Stat of the Day brought to
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Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show. It's a big game for the Lakers,
Speaker 1: it's a big game for Golden ste date as well.
Speaker 1: But if you win both games in San Francisco and
Speaker 1: then you come back home. Now you got him because
Speaker 1: maybe Golden State can take one of two there and
Speaker 1: now it's three to one, and trying to overcome that
Speaker 1: you're not the same team you were last year. And
Speaker 1: I do think the Lakers are a better all around
Speaker 1: team than Golden State, but that's with Anthony Davis playing
Speaker 1: at a very high level, and that's always the challenge.
Speaker 1: Back to back games for him and the over under
Speaker 1: twenty six and a half, it feels like they're just
Speaker 1: begging you to take the under, like there's no way
Speaker 1: he's going to put together back to back great games.
Speaker 1: But he did this against Memphis where it'd be a
Speaker 1: really good game and then an average game. But this
Speaker 1: is a game, you know, he's going against the front
Speaker 1: line that's not imposing at all, but getting him in
Speaker 1: rhythm early. Lebron talked about that, that getting him shots
Speaker 1: early and then getting him in the flow of things
Speaker 1: and then he you know, he's great at both ends
Speaker 1: of the floor, blocking a lot of shots there. But
Speaker 1: the Lakers tonight at Golden State, they're six point underdogs
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Speaker 2: Seaton. We're gonna switch it up to Wander Franco.
Speaker 5: Okay, short stuff from these He had that from the race,
Speaker 5: he had that little like flip move.
Speaker 1: He had an easy grounder and then he kind of
Speaker 1: flipped the ball up, flipped it.
Speaker 2: Up in the air, caught it and then sent it
Speaker 2: over to first. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, wander Franco's flip move last night.
Speaker 2: It was cool or cocky both m Yes, that's true. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it can be cool and super cocky.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: But he also had the catch down the left field
Speaker 1: line recently where it was a bare handed catch, almost
Speaker 1: like Kevin Mitchell with the Mets, where he overran it
Speaker 1: and he couldn't use his glove, put out his hand
Speaker 1: and he caught the ball bare handed.
Speaker 5: And I think he hit like a bomb last night too,
Speaker 5: like a four hundred and twenty something foot.
Speaker 1: You know what, We'll tease that because let me make
Speaker 1: way for your coach, Cali Perry Kentucky had basketball coach
Speaker 1: kind enough to join us. He was at the nixt
Speaker 1: game the other night. How does that work when you
Speaker 1: want to go to the next game? Who places the
Speaker 1: call and who tells you where you get to sit?
Speaker 7: Come on, you know, I'm calling William Wesley, I'm calling
Speaker 7: Leon Rose.
Speaker 2: Come on, you do it, You do it.
Speaker 6: If I want good seats, I have to call.
Speaker 1: Do you get to say, hey, I want to sit
Speaker 1: next to Aaron Rodgers or Jessica Alba.
Speaker 6: No, no, I don't they get to ask you if they.
Speaker 1: Can sit next to me. Maybe years ago that would
Speaker 1: be the case. I don't know about this year.
Speaker 2: Coach.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it like far away from him as possible.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you may be right, You may be right.
Speaker 1: How close do you think you were to, you know,
Speaker 1: leaving Kentucky or them wanting you to leave Kentucky? Like,
Speaker 1: did it ever get to the point where you had
Speaker 1: to have a meeting to say, you know, where are
Speaker 1: we going together?
Speaker 7: No? No, you know, here's my thing again? What we
Speaker 7: got going? We we've been so at a high level
Speaker 7: last year in the year before. If we win forty
Speaker 7: seven forty eight games in two years and two NCAA
Speaker 7: tournaments and all that in a normal place. That's wow,
Speaker 7: we got this wrong in Kentucky. There's something different about
Speaker 7: Kentucky Good and Kentucky good.
Speaker 6: You know, we've been there.
Speaker 7: I mean it was only when we the season ended
Speaker 7: with Maxi quickly, Ashton Nick, the guys we had on
Speaker 7: that group where we could have won a national title
Speaker 7: that year that we won the league by three. That
Speaker 7: was only a few years ago. Then you have the
Speaker 7: COVID year, then the last two years. But you know what,
Speaker 7: we've got a good group coming in. The Landscape has changed.
Speaker 7: This transfer stuff has changed stuff. The name, image and
Speaker 7: likeness has changed stuff. But no, I think we're on
Speaker 7: a good path. You know, I want to do some
Speaker 7: special things here. You know, we got six years left
Speaker 7: to do some really good stuff, and I think we're
Speaker 7: doing some staff things.
Speaker 2: Well what do you mean six years?
Speaker 7: Well, I've got six years on a contract and I'm
Speaker 7: like saying, all right, let's let's make this run and
Speaker 7: let's do some things. Let's get this back where we were.
Speaker 7: And again, you know, we haven't been that far. I
Speaker 7: mean two years ago we were the fifth overall seed.
Speaker 7: Like you know, I mean we and a couple of
Speaker 7: us lost to Saint Pete's. I was just somewhere last night,
Speaker 7: and well, when I was at the next game, somebody
Speaker 7: came up and said, I'm an say Peter's graduate. Thank
Speaker 7: you you made I said, yeah, well you're really happy.
Speaker 7: I wasn't really happy. And neither were the other schools
Speaker 7: that lost to them. After we lost to them, I
Speaker 7: mean they how about they could have been in the
Speaker 7: final four. Ye So but anyway, that's behind. Look you
Speaker 7: know me, I don't have a rear view mirror. My
Speaker 7: stuff is always looking ahead, what's next? How are we
Speaker 7: first at it? I mean you're talking about name, image
Speaker 7: and likeness. I don't like to get into that with
Speaker 7: players because you don't come to Kentucky. I call that
Speaker 7: tripping over Nichols to try to get to an NBA
Speaker 7: Max contract. I mean, we've probably got twelve or thirteen
Speaker 7: guys in the league now that have Max deals, and
Speaker 7: you got others. It may be fifteen sixteen in another
Speaker 7: year or two. So, but our kids make more than anybody.
Speaker 7: You saw Jacob Topping on an AT and T commercial
Speaker 7: little wayings in my office saying where's Jacob Topping?
Speaker 6: I saw them on that at and T commercial.
Speaker 7: You've got John Morgan, Morgan and Morgan national stuff because
Speaker 7: we're at Kentucky and because you know, our TV even
Speaker 7: last year rated higher than anybody what we do and
Speaker 7: what we're seeing.
Speaker 1: But these kids want what the other kids are getting
Speaker 1: at other schools.
Speaker 6: Coach, and they will, but I'm not.
Speaker 7: I don't want to go in and the first thing
Speaker 7: I talk about is name, image and likeness.
Speaker 6: That's not why you come to Kentucky.
Speaker 7: That isn't yet you are going to do better than
Speaker 7: anywhere else you go, but why talk about that? I mean, literally,
Speaker 7: you're coming here. I've had many players say their first
Speaker 7: year in the NBA was at Kentucky. All that we did,
Speaker 7: how we practice, how we competed, and that's what's happened,
Speaker 7: you know, Case and you know looking right now like
Speaker 7: a lottery pick from last year. I mean, that's what
Speaker 7: this is about. Winning at the highest level, knowing that
Speaker 7: every game is I'm on Super Bowl, knowing you can't
Speaker 7: hide You're going to be on national television. And Dan,
Speaker 7: why do you think people want to watch Kentucky so much?
Speaker 6: Because they want to see us win?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 7: No, and when we're up twenty they turned the TV off.
Speaker 7: I understand that our team doesn't, but all that you
Speaker 7: do by coming here.
Speaker 6: Of the competitive practices.
Speaker 7: You can't hide, and now you're prepared for what's ahead.
Speaker 7: Watching Julius, watching Bam, watching Emmanual quickly, you know, seeing
Speaker 7: what MAXI did. I'm trying to go out west so
Speaker 7: I can see the lakes and see those guys and
Speaker 7: Anthony and Jared and Whenyon and then seeing both Jamaal
Speaker 7: and Devin trying to go out west to what I
Speaker 7: missed Sacramento. I mean, I'm so mad because I thought
Speaker 7: they could advance and I'd have time. But d Fox
Speaker 7: and Malik and Trey Lows. I mean, these kids are
Speaker 7: all competing. Someone said, how they're getting No, they're.
Speaker 6: Not twenty four and twenty five. That's when they're coming
Speaker 6: into their prime.
Speaker 1: I'm wondered about, you know, transfer portal, name, image and
Speaker 1: likeness and being able to sustain that and want to
Speaker 1: continue to coach. We've seen some of these coaches, you know.
Speaker 1: Beheim said, you know, I've never been happier, like it's
Speaker 1: off my shoulders, you know, Coach k I know, getting older,
Speaker 1: you know, Jay Wright saying, man I've never felt better
Speaker 1: than I'm out from this, like it's changed so much,
Speaker 1: and I wonder if it's just going to eat up
Speaker 1: these coaches that it's not longevity wise, where you're going
Speaker 1: to stay thirty you know, thirty years as a head
Speaker 1: coach in college.
Speaker 7: Well at one school at this point that I don't
Speaker 7: believe that will ever happen again.
Speaker 6: But for me, I'm not in it.
Speaker 7: I'm trying to make sure whatever I'm doing, what makes
Speaker 7: me happy is seeing kids improve and get better and
Speaker 7: coming together and winning at the highest level, competing for
Speaker 7: national titles, winning national titles.
Speaker 6: But the whole point of it is am I able
Speaker 6: to help kids?
Speaker 7: And if I'm not because of the transfer portal or nil,
Speaker 7: that may change things. But right now again, we got
Speaker 7: a great class coming in of young people. We've got
Speaker 7: some vets coming back. I'm good with.
Speaker 1: This, but could you let me could you see getting
Speaker 1: players who aren't going to be one and done.
Speaker 6: Well, every player that comes here thinks he's one and done.
Speaker 6: I know they're not all one and done.
Speaker 7: No, and I tell him, don't come here thinking you're
Speaker 7: staying for one year. Talk about two and three years
Speaker 7: and after one if you're able to go, I'll be
Speaker 7: the first one. Right now I'm dealing with when the
Speaker 7: season is in season, it's all about team. I'm not
Speaker 7: worried about individuals at that point, but when the year ends,
Speaker 7: it's always about the individual player and what's best that now,
Speaker 7: not only NBA, it's thrown in the transfer portal. So
Speaker 7: like with he was in my office yesterday and I'm
Speaker 7: talking to NBA teams. I talked to one owner about
Speaker 7: Oscar because he's going to do some more workouts. And
Speaker 7: my thing right now is to do everything I can
Speaker 7: to help Oscar get in that league because I believe
Speaker 7: they'll stay Oscar.
Speaker 1: I just want to let people know who you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Oscar sheib Way, who is going to be a lot
Speaker 1: of repicker.
Speaker 7: Who who knows why he won't be a lot of repick?
Speaker 7: But no one knows who he was. No one knew
Speaker 7: who he was. He comes to Kentucky, all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: this kid explodes, and I'm telling you, the greatest kid.
Speaker 7: Do I want to coach Oscar another year? Yes?
Speaker 6: One am I stupid? Stupid? Yes I want to coach
Speaker 6: him another year.
Speaker 7: But if I'm doing right by him, I got to
Speaker 7: give him every opportunity to run this out and see
Speaker 7: exactly where he is and so. But I've also had
Speaker 7: to have kids walk in and say, Coach, I think
Speaker 7: it's better that I leave.
Speaker 6: I was with CJ.
Speaker 7: Frederick and walked him through that situation and tried to
Speaker 7: help him and told him, I'm disappointed you're leaving, but
Speaker 7: I understand and let me help you, and you walk.
Speaker 6: Through it that way. I'm not mad.
Speaker 7: I'm mad because you're leaving her. You should never this
Speaker 7: thing right now. Let me my opinion. Transfer portal in
Speaker 7: the past before they could leave without penalty.
Speaker 6: I would help a kid try to play right away.
Speaker 4: I would.
Speaker 7: I didn't care about a kid sitting out, but should
Speaker 7: be able to transfer once without penalty. Because maybe the
Speaker 7: coach lied to you, maybe you picked the wrong place,
Speaker 7: maybe you overestimated who you were, so you can leave.
Speaker 7: If you graduate from the other school, you can leave again.
Speaker 6: That's two.
Speaker 7: If for some reason the coach gets fired or leaves
Speaker 7: or whatever, you should have that option. Short of that,
Speaker 7: anything should be added. If you get a waiver for injury,
Speaker 7: it gives you another year. If you get a waiver
Speaker 7: for mental health, you need to step back. You're having
Speaker 7: this step back, get yourself right, and then we'll.
Speaker 6: Add a year at the end.
Speaker 7: That way, you having kids transfer three and four times.
Speaker 7: It's not sustainable and it's not good for young people
Speaker 7: to just say, well, I'm doing this and I'm trying
Speaker 7: to get this and I'm going to go. I mean,
Speaker 7: what we've been able to do is work through stuff,
Speaker 7: and that's kind of being taken away.
Speaker 6: So when you add that.
Speaker 7: All together, it's a little bit of a cluster right
Speaker 7: now we need and it all falls down. It all
Speaker 7: falls on coaches. It's not falling on college presidents. It's
Speaker 7: not falling on ads. It's falling on coaches. I just
Speaker 7: talked to a women's coach and he said one of
Speaker 7: his girls left and got money to go to the
Speaker 7: other to the other program.
Speaker 6: So it's happening in women's basketball.
Speaker 1: Well, we saw that Louisville. They just lost their best
Speaker 1: player Ben And.
Speaker 7: Then I was talking to Jimbo Fisher. I said, what's
Speaker 7: happening in football? He says, oh, my gosh. So there's
Speaker 7: got to be some guidance where the guardrails are what
Speaker 7: we do. But I said this from the beginning, all
Speaker 7: of This is going to help Kentucky. Kids are going
Speaker 7: to want to transfer to Kentucky. We're going to be
Speaker 7: able to put the best stuff together. I'm not sure
Speaker 7: if it's the best thing for college sports or college
Speaker 7: basketball and coaches.
Speaker 6: Many mid level coaches are going to get.
Speaker 7: Fired because their best players are leaving, and then they
Speaker 7: have a struggle year and another struggle and they're gone.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's not great for the profession. I don't
Speaker 6: think it's great for the kids.
Speaker 1: I'll leave you with this. Have you recruited Lebron's son.
Speaker 7: Well out west? And I can't mention all that. Lebron's
Speaker 7: a friend, but his son did get scholarship papers when
Speaker 7: he was born, So I sent scholarship papers.
Speaker 6: A minute he was I sent him so to the hospital.
Speaker 7: Lebron's a great friend, and I'm not allowed to talk
Speaker 7: about it. He's a he's a recruitable athlete. Oh did
Speaker 7: you You'll get me in trouble.
Speaker 4: I know, socks?
Speaker 6: Do you hold on socks? What kind of socks do
Speaker 6: you have on today? Don't tell me you had? Do
Speaker 6: you have socks on today?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Adidas?
Speaker 6: Okay, do you remember the flowery ones you had the
Speaker 6: last time. Yeah, I couldn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what yeah, what about it?
Speaker 7: I'm a I'm a court and shoot.
Speaker 6: You remember before the game, you go into court and shoot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I put on a damn display when I did.
Speaker 6: No, no, the dating stuff didn't come.
Speaker 2: No, no, no.
Speaker 1: See, the fire department came over that day and they said,
Speaker 1: oh my god, we got to put that guy's arm out.
Speaker 2: It's on fire.
Speaker 6: I called.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a true story when when you were
Speaker 1: up at UMass and I was putting on an aerial
Speaker 1: display and a shooting and a shooting performance there with
Speaker 1: flowered socks are yeah, and that's what the great ones do.
Speaker 1: Patino offered me. Nil, just let you know. I like
Speaker 1: it when you have nothing to say. It's great, it's great.
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen very often, but.
Speaker 2: I do like that.
Speaker 1: That done not really, Hey, good luck next year, and
Speaker 1: I appreciate your time as always. That's that's coach John Caliperi.
Speaker 1: He gets tickets to the Knicks games. Got him all
Speaker 1: fired up there. Not allowed to talk about Lebron's son.
Speaker 1: Get him in trouble. All right, We'll take a break.
Speaker 1: Brian Scalvobrini, the Celtic broadcaster will join us coming up.
Speaker 1: We'll get phone calls as well. Back after this and
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Speaker 8: It's I guess it's kind of like maybe a darker
Speaker 8: curb your enthusiasm, or it's like how it's final Larry
Speaker 8: david but Larry David playing a heightened version of himself
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Speaker 1: Brian Scalabrini, Celtics analyst NBC Sports Boston, and he was
Speaker 1: with the Celtics when they won it All in two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight the White Mamba, and Scalabrini says, the
Speaker 1: Celtics have no excuse not to win a championship this year,
Speaker 1: and he joins this now, but if they don't win
Speaker 1: the championship, it will be because of what or who.
Speaker 9: Brian, I don't know about who, but I'll tell you
Speaker 9: if they're roller coach to ride, maybe not taking the
Speaker 9: regular season seriously. I mean, right now, you look around
Speaker 9: the NBA and everyone is like flipping a switch. The
Speaker 9: Lakers slipped the switch. The Golden State Warriors are flipping
Speaker 9: a switch in Miami. He flipped the switch. So the
Speaker 9: Celtics maybe playing with fire right there. But you know,
Speaker 9: like you see him in Game one, you realize, you
Speaker 9: guys got to play a lot harder if you're going
Speaker 9: to win. Then you watch him in the third quarter
Speaker 9: of Game two and you realize what their potential is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I they feel like they're not threatening some nights.
Speaker 1: It's weird to watch a team that's that talented but
Speaker 1: then they know shows sometimes yeah, and why I don't think.
Speaker 9: They understand how difficult it is and how hard you
Speaker 9: have to play. By the way, you can see this
Speaker 9: if you watch the Knicks play the Miami Heat in
Speaker 9: Game two. It was almost like the Knicks didn't realize, well,
Speaker 9: Jimmy Butler's not out there, let's just coast to victory.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just not like that.
Speaker 9: And I think the Miami Heat right now in the playoffs,
Speaker 9: you look at them, they work every possession.
Speaker 4: Eric Sposa is doing the same thing.
Speaker 9: That's what it takes to win a championship, even when
Speaker 9: you have the most talent. So I'm sometimes maybe surprised
Speaker 9: maybe habits throughout the regular season. We're living in an
Speaker 9: era where the players don't take the regular season seriously.
Speaker 9: You know, in the past, the great players have been
Speaker 9: able to flip a switch. Maybe these guys feel like
Speaker 9: they could do it, and they clearly the Celtics did it.
Speaker 9: From Game won to Game two, they went to a
Speaker 9: new level. And everyone would talk about adjustments. Dan, Sometimes
Speaker 9: it's just playing harder, pressuring the ball, being in people's airspace.
Speaker 9: That's a big adjustment in the NBA.
Speaker 1: And sometimes when the star player's not there, you kind
Speaker 1: of exhale a little bit, and then Harden goes off
Speaker 1: and by the time you realize he's going off, you
Speaker 1: can't stop him and you get steamrolled there a little bit.
Speaker 1: But with Embiid coming back, how surprised were you that
Speaker 1: he came back and he came back on the road
Speaker 1: as opposed to staying in Philadelphia. They already got their split, sure,
Speaker 1: and that's what I thought, Maybe you just keep him
Speaker 1: in Philly.
Speaker 9: Yeah, So, Dan, this is the way that I looked
Speaker 9: at that particular game, and I would guess if I
Speaker 9: was in the meetings with Doc Rivers, he would say
Speaker 9: the same thing. So obviously game three is huge, Right,
Speaker 9: you got Embiid hoisting the trophy. On any given night,
Speaker 9: when you're going through a series, like Jimmy Butler taking
Speaker 9: off game two after one, it's totally fine to get
Speaker 9: a couple of resties.
Speaker 4: But Dan, and b if he.
Speaker 9: Didn't play last night, he wouldn't have played for thirteen days.
Speaker 9: There's not like it's not more is better on this one,
Speaker 9: Like you're eventually gonna have to play through an injury.
Speaker 9: Two days is not gonna make that big of a difference.
Speaker 9: So I thought that what Philly got out of that
Speaker 9: was and b got a chance to kind of get
Speaker 9: his feet underneath him, because you got to expect in
Speaker 9: Game three Philly crowd late start. You know they need
Speaker 9: this at Boston, Philly hoisting MVP trophies. You don't want
Speaker 9: MB to be coming off of a thirteen day layoff.
Speaker 9: So the Celtics feel good about what they got. They
Speaker 9: got the they got back on tracking game two. But
Speaker 9: Philly also feels good. We're getting our MVP back. You know,
Speaker 9: he's gonna be He's gonna have his Sea legs underneath him,
Speaker 9: and we're gonna have the crowd behind us. I think
Speaker 9: I don't think there's been a game in Philly right
Speaker 9: now in about twelve days where now all of a sudden,
Speaker 9: or maybe it's ten and all of a sudden, now
Speaker 9: that crowd is gonna be rabid. So it's gonna be
Speaker 9: a really good game three.
Speaker 1: Scalabrini, Celtics analyst, former player, part of the two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight championship team with the Celtics and the White Mamba.
Speaker 2: How did you get that nickname, Stacey King?
Speaker 9: That's how like, uh, he's the uh, he's the analyst
Speaker 9: for the Chicago Bulls. You know, like he I made
Speaker 9: I made a pair of shoes from Kobe and I
Speaker 9: slapped him down on the table and he started calling
Speaker 9: me the white Mama.
Speaker 4: Since ever since.
Speaker 2: Then did Kobe ever talk about that?
Speaker 9: So he reached out on Twitter and you know, welcome
Speaker 9: me to Twitter, White Mamba. That was only this the
Speaker 9: only stamping of the white Mamba from Kobe.
Speaker 1: He gave me an all star jersey and he said
Speaker 1: to the white Mamba.
Speaker 4: So maybe maybe maybe all of us, maybe all white guy.
Speaker 1: I think he was complimenting me by calling me that.
Speaker 1: I I didn't, you know, say, I'm going to call
Speaker 1: myself this. But I figured if Kobe co signed on
Speaker 1: this or signed off on it, then literally then I
Speaker 1: was I was pretty good. But but you faced all
Speaker 1: of these guys, didn't you.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean Kobe was. His shot making ability was
Speaker 9: off the charts. Like I'm you know, I think it's
Speaker 9: very similar to what we're seeing right now with the
Speaker 9: skill level of the player. It was an anomaly back
Speaker 9: then for a guy go right, go left, step back, right,
Speaker 9: step back left, finish right, finished left.
Speaker 4: Like most guys had tendencies to do five things.
Speaker 9: I went I had I had a match up with
Speaker 9: Kobe one day, so I wanted to watch film, you know, like,
Speaker 9: so we have something called synergy. You can get his
Speaker 9: last hundred clips. He took ninety eight different types of shots.
Speaker 9: Then I asked for another one hundred clips, and there
Speaker 9: was like seventy four different types of shots.
Speaker 4: Like I went into the game, like.
Speaker 1: But what was the scouting report on Kobe?
Speaker 4: There is none? I mean for there had to be.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, like you were, you were more dialed into
Speaker 9: where your help was coming from. Don't let him get
Speaker 9: to the middle of the floor, because we're not going
Speaker 9: to help you there.
Speaker 4: You're going to have somebody on the baseline. It's like that.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like i'm telling you. I could tell you.
Speaker 9: Tracy McGrady and the hesitation, Vince Carter, Paul Pierce, they
Speaker 9: all had about five or seven things they did.
Speaker 1: What about Lebron? What did you try to get him
Speaker 1: to do?
Speaker 9: Yeah, so Lebron at the back in the day hesitation
Speaker 9: right or when he goes left, he steps back, so
Speaker 9: you kind of want him not to get to his
Speaker 9: right hand. You know what made Lebron great back then
Speaker 9: was his passing right, And this is all pre championship Lebron,
Speaker 9: Like I'm out of the league in twenty twelve.
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't really play my last couple of years.
Speaker 4: It was just kind of like the.
Speaker 9: Guy on the bench, so like you're not getting into
Speaker 9: a matchup where you're I'm like, I'm like, not like
Speaker 9: Paul Pierce that has to guard him, you know, sixty
Speaker 9: five possessions or he's going through you know, fifty picking rolls.
Speaker 9: But they all have like a tendency. But right now
Speaker 9: you look at players much more skilled than what we've
Speaker 9: ever seen, like the Curry effect that Damian Lillard. I
Speaker 9: mean he just go shake Gilgris Alexander a guy and
Speaker 9: no one even talks about like these are so elitely
Speaker 9: skilled and they don't have much offensive weaknesses or game.
Speaker 1: What's it like, though, when you're sitting on the bench,
Speaker 1: at the end of the bench and sitting next to
Speaker 1: you is a civilian, like some rich guy and he's
Speaker 1: sitting right there with you.
Speaker 9: The funniest interaction. I didn't even know who the guy was.
Speaker 9: We were in the NBA Finals my rookie year and
Speaker 9: Brad Pitt was that guy, right, I.
Speaker 4: Didn't know it was Brad Pitt.
Speaker 9: And he had like he was like like, you know,
Speaker 9: you think of Brad Pitt, Like I'm not dumb, Like
Speaker 9: Brad Pitt's a great looking guy, like you see him
Speaker 9: on the movies.
Speaker 4: You're like, this guy had long hair, he had a beard.
Speaker 9: It was like it was he almost looked like Forrest
Speaker 9: Gump when he was, you know, running across the country
Speaker 9: when you know, he was just all raggedy and he
Speaker 9: smelt like cigarettes.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I tell.
Speaker 9: One of my teammates, sink, why the hell they let
Speaker 9: these guys just sit here like that? And my boys like,
Speaker 9: you don't know who that is. I'm like, ah, he's like,
Speaker 9: that's Brad Pitt. I'm like Brad Pitt from the movie seven.
Speaker 9: He's like, yeah, that guy.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, what was he filming that he
Speaker 2: looked like that.
Speaker 4: I have no idea, Like he couldn't have looked any worse.
Speaker 4: Put it that way.
Speaker 1: I had a bad experience, an embarrassing one at the
Speaker 1: Lakers game and I'm I'm walking around, you know, I
Speaker 1: think I'm a big deal at Sports Center. I'm walking around,
Speaker 1: you know, right before the game all the celebrities, and
Speaker 1: then I see, like, you know, Justin Timberlake's there, and
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt's there. I go up to Brad Pitt. I said, hey, Brad,
Speaker 1: I'm Dan Patrick's Sports Center.
Speaker 2: He has no idea who I am.
Speaker 1: Well, I go back and sit down, and rich Eisen's
Speaker 1: wife was there next to me, and she goes.
Speaker 2: Hey, you got a booger in your nose?
Speaker 10: And I go what.
Speaker 6: I do?
Speaker 2: She goes yeah.
Speaker 1: I said, oh my god, I just walked by Brad.
Speaker 1: So Brad Pitt's sitting down looking straight up my nose. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's got me thinking that guy had a booger
Speaker 1: in his nose.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9: No matter what, he's not reaching out and shaking your nose.
Speaker 9: He's not nice to meet you. He's only thinking about one.
Speaker 2: Thing at that point.
Speaker 1: Who has more to gain from winning a championship? Steph
Speaker 1: or Lebron.
Speaker 9: You know, I think it's Steph Curry because I think
Speaker 9: pretty much everyone in the world the basketball had stamped
Speaker 9: Lebron as it the best or the second best, and
Speaker 9: the jury's still out like not for me. I think
Speaker 9: Steph Curry's an all time great.
Speaker 2: Like is he top ten? Yeah, top five, he might
Speaker 2: be top five.
Speaker 9: He might be like if you don't, like if you
Speaker 9: can get past, Like he's not gonna dunk on you,
Speaker 9: He's not going to do that.
Speaker 4: But like like he's an assassin out there. He's a killer.
Speaker 9: Like he's a Steph above Larry Bird. Yeah, cause the longevity. Yeah,
Speaker 9: he's gonna get me in trouble. Like if Larry would
Speaker 9: have played, you know, like if he would have kept
Speaker 9: on going late and I mean didn't, Yeah, Larry Bird
Speaker 9: would be better. But like longevity does matter. It's like
Speaker 9: it's the reason why Lebron his numbers are going to
Speaker 9: be off the chart. So and I know, like Steph
Speaker 9: Curry's resting, you know, you know those those deprivation tanks,
Speaker 9: and he's got bodywork people and all that. And back
Speaker 9: in the day, they they drank a six pack and
Speaker 9: smoke a cigarette like that was their recovery. So I
Speaker 9: get all that, but you can't look at body of
Speaker 9: work when you're talking about the all time greats and
Speaker 9: not factor in like the longevity of it.
Speaker 1: Well, that's why what Lebron has done. You know that
Speaker 1: he's got the greatest resume in NBA history, no question, right,
Speaker 1: he does. He might not be the greatest player. Could
Speaker 1: Steph Curry move past Lebron in your opinion? Yeah, with
Speaker 1: the championship, this championship, you would put him ahead of
Speaker 1: Lebron on the all time.
Speaker 9: I don't know about that. That'd be really good. That's
Speaker 9: that's but Steph's story. If they win again this year, Dan,
Speaker 9: this story's not over.
Speaker 2: Oh I know.
Speaker 1: And then he would say, look, I want another title
Speaker 1: with Elt Durant because we were like, oh, El Durant
Speaker 1: came in, he won a couple of titles.
Speaker 2: Well you want to add out.
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't anybody that uses that as an
Speaker 9: argument for Lebron Lebron joined d Wade Like I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 9: You can't if you have a problem with the super team,
Speaker 9: you can't pick and choose what super team you have
Speaker 9: a problem with. You can't just say like, I'm okay
Speaker 9: with what Lebron did, but I'm not okay with what
Speaker 9: Steph did. Like, you can't do that. You got to
Speaker 9: just have a problem with all super teams. And that's fine.
Speaker 9: That's your opinion. But no, I mean, Steph's story isn't done.
Speaker 9: We don't know he's not slowing down. We don't know
Speaker 9: what it's going to end, like, but his numbers could
Speaker 9: be not what Lebron's are. But I mean, if he
Speaker 9: went to another championship, he has more championships, you can
Speaker 9: make the argument he's done it with less.
Speaker 4: I think the Lebron.
Speaker 9: Championship in Cleveland was an all time great championship, like
Speaker 9: Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love like like that was really impressive
Speaker 9: for Lebron down three one, the Warriors, seventy three and nineteen.
Speaker 9: That that sort of stamped the whole thing. Yeah, I
Speaker 9: don't really take a lot of stock into the Bubble Championship.
Speaker 9: I think there's some variability into that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but everybody was in the bubble so it was
Speaker 1: a neutral site.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 9: But when you're older and you get four months off
Speaker 9: going into it, you don't have to travel and stuff
Speaker 9: like that, I think you have a little bit of
Speaker 9: an advantage. Look, I get it, I get it. I
Speaker 9: just don't I count it. I just don't count as
Speaker 9: an all time difficult one.
Speaker 4: But you know, like I just.
Speaker 2: Nobody does that to Jordan.
Speaker 1: When Jordan beat the Lakers and Magic didn't play got injured,
Speaker 1: there nobody goes, yeah, but you weren't facing, you know,
Speaker 1: a quality Laker team.
Speaker 9: They did go on the road and beat the Lakers,
Speaker 9: and that's like beating Magic Johnson's the big deal.
Speaker 2: But Magic was injured?
Speaker 4: How injured was he?
Speaker 2: Didn't he have like the thigh injury there?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't. I mean it was in ninety one.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: But it feels like we do this to Lebron.
Speaker 9: Well, the fact that Michael never lost after he started
Speaker 9: winning every season he started for nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1: Okay, but what happened about the nine years where he
Speaker 1: didn't get to the NBA finals?
Speaker 4: I mean, that's you factor that in.
Speaker 2: But I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not holding Lebron's losses.
Speaker 1: Against them, and I think people do though, Brian. I
Speaker 1: think they're like, yeah, but he lost. I'm going you know,
Speaker 1: are you going to hold that against Tom Brady that
Speaker 1: he lost? You got to the super Bowl, you got
Speaker 1: to an NBA finals, that's not a negative if you lost.
Speaker 4: Dan.
Speaker 9: If if Lebron were to win this one, would you
Speaker 9: think that would be official stamped? I think he would
Speaker 9: be like, I don't, what do you mean?
Speaker 4: Opinion?
Speaker 1: He would be the greatest player of all time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my opinion would be it won't happen though, Brian, because
Speaker 1: people are holding onto Michael Jordan's memories for dear life.
Speaker 1: They will not allow Lebron good.
Speaker 2: They will. Wow, this is why you're an analyst.
Speaker 1: Michael is pretty good, Dan, Dan, do you want to
Speaker 1: retrack the Larry Bird Steph.
Speaker 9: Gav Right, Yeah, that's funny you said that.
Speaker 4: That's funny how you said that.
Speaker 9: I will say this to retract that, I would say,
Speaker 9: no one, no one in the NBA had three seasons
Speaker 9: like Larry Bird, So I would say the back to
Speaker 9: back to back MVPs. Can't you can argue you'll take
Speaker 9: those three seasons over anybody else in the in the
Speaker 9: in the history of the league. But longevity does matter,
Speaker 9: So I can't retract the longevity statement. I mean, like,
Speaker 9: you know Bill Walton, why don't we say Bill Waltons
Speaker 9: at all time?
Speaker 1: He's not I love him. I love Bill. That one
Speaker 1: season he had with me he was Yeah, that's one
Speaker 1: season he was amazing, he was. Longevity doesn't matter, Yes,
Speaker 1: it does in the NBA. So good luck with that
Speaker 1: Bird quote there in Boston. Thanks Dan, Thank you Famous infamous.
Speaker 1: That's Brian Scalabrini, a fellow White Mamba. Thank you, bud H.
Speaker 1: Broadcaster for the Celtics. Larry Bird was an All Star
Speaker 1: in twelve of his thirteen season. Steph has been an
Speaker 1: All Star nine of his fourteen seasons. Just a little
Speaker 1: reminder there, how about we take a break here, we're
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Speaker 2: Rodgers is happy, you know how. I know that.
Speaker 1: He was on the Pat McAfee show and he said
Speaker 1: he's happy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been great. I mean everything is new. It's
Speaker 4: like the first day of school.
Speaker 11: Every single day there's new people to meet and got
Speaker 11: to figure out your routine and you know where the
Speaker 11: laundry loops go, and you know, male and cleats and
Speaker 11: weight room, shoes and all the stuff. Everything's new and
Speaker 11: exciting and fun. I'm just pinching myself a lot of days,
Speaker 11: just I can't believe, you know, it's real sometimes. So
Speaker 11: it's been It's been a dream for sure, just to
Speaker 11: be here. Definitely feel energized to be in the building.
Speaker 1: Okay, everything's good. And then Sauce Gardener was sitting next
Speaker 1: to Rodgers at the next game, and sauce Gardner didn't
Speaker 1: know who Jessica Alba was.
Speaker 12: I got to meet a few a few movie stars.
Speaker 12: I got to meet Chris Rock, Dave Sappelle, Tracy Morgan.
Speaker 6: I met quite a few people.
Speaker 4: But when we were getting seated.
Speaker 12: He was just picking on me a little bit for
Speaker 12: being young, you know, Like we was getting seated and
Speaker 12: he was like, oh, we're about to sit by we
Speaker 12: about to sit by Jessica Alba.
Speaker 4: And I'm just like, oh, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I don't know who that is.
Speaker 6: And he just looked at me.
Speaker 4: He looked at me like I'm crazy.
Speaker 12: That whole night he had just keep asking me out
Speaker 12: to know where He's like, do you know who that
Speaker 12: person is?
Speaker 6: And I'm like, bro, that's a mariostdam I know.
Speaker 4: Who that is. Like now, you just picking on me
Speaker 4: at this.
Speaker 2: Point, didn't know who Jessica Alba was.
Speaker 1: Well, she's in her early forties, so Sauces in his
Speaker 1: early twenties.
Speaker 2: Still no reason to not know who Jessica Alba is.
Speaker 2: We should break this down.
Speaker 8: Let's break down the numbers Dan when Dark Angel came out,
Speaker 8: when she burst on the scene, Jessica Alba in a
Speaker 8: great role. Sauce Garter was one, he was one year
Speaker 8: old two thousand and one.
Speaker 2: Or two thousand.
Speaker 8: It's okay, and she has not really worked a lot
Speaker 8: in the past. That Kate, she shouldn't need to right,
Speaker 8: she's got clothing lines and product line.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think she's got a she's a billionaire at company
Speaker 5: that she has honor honest company. It does really well.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big, big thing.
Speaker 1: By the way, I've got the DraftKings Odds, NFL Defensive
Speaker 1: and Offensive Players of the Year. So I have NFL
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year, and I have the NFL
Speaker 1: Offensive Rookie of the Year, Marvin. I'll start with you,
Speaker 1: the NFL Defensive Player of the Year. Uh, these two
Speaker 1: players have the same odds.
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1: Yes, these two players have the same odds. Air Aaron
Speaker 1: Donald Aaron Donald. No, Sauce Sauce Gardner, No, he is.
Speaker 1: I know he's fifth on the list, Pauli, Miles Garrett,
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, and Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2: Then it's t J.
Speaker 1: Wat Nick Bosa, and Sauce card NFL Offensive Rookie of
Speaker 1: the Year odds. Three quarterbacks are in here.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think B Jacques Robinson has to be in there,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 6: He is.
Speaker 1: Then it's Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, C J. Stroud, Jackson Smith,
Speaker 1: the Jigbo.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: Those are your offensive rookies of the year in the NFL.
Speaker 1: A couple of phone calls in here Tom and North Carolina.
Speaker 1: Good morning, Tom, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10: Hey, DP for taking my call?
Speaker 12: Yes, Tom, Yeah, I did have a pie of the
Speaker 12: face that I was going to take the Hurricanes versus
Speaker 12: the field if anybody wanted a piece of that.
Speaker 10: But I did think that it was my duty to
Speaker 10: call in.
Speaker 2: Oh, I see what you did. You brought it back.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the word duty a callback from hour one.
Speaker 1: Since Seaton grew up with somebody who this last name
Speaker 1: was duty, I did want.
Speaker 10: To call that Todd for losing a pile of the
Speaker 10: face bet for the Rangers and the Devils.
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, they were up two games to nothing.
Speaker 1: And there was three games to two, and Todd, you
Speaker 1: would you have told us that unless Tom in North
Speaker 1: Carolina called out.
Speaker 2: I probably would have kept it under my hat unless
Speaker 2: it was Brough.
Speaker 4: I thought.
Speaker 9: I thought the person that did the bet with me
Speaker 9: was going to call it the very next day.
Speaker 4: It's okay, I think it's incumbent on the person that made.
Speaker 5: The Okay, I agree, Okay, I agree. I think we
Speaker 5: make so many of them. It's on the caller.
Speaker 1: Okay, All right, maybe you'll whip up a pie here
Speaker 1: smash you today, or you want to get smashed on
Speaker 1: a Friday.
Speaker 4: What have you guys want to do?
Speaker 1: No, no, I'm asking you. You want to wait till tomorrow,
Speaker 1: you want to do it today?
Speaker 4: We can do it either way.
Speaker 2: Okay, you do it today if you want.
Speaker 1: All right, you know what, how about I surprised you surprised?
Speaker 1: Maybe it's surprise. Pie was the best. That's the best
Speaker 1: way we ever had.
Speaker 2: Price.
Speaker 1: I punished seating because he did not know when he
Speaker 1: was getting a pie it was the best. And he'd
Speaker 1: he'd just turned the corner and I'd just be like, smack,
Speaker 1: just open a door and whoa Monty in Dayton, Hey Monty,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10: Hey? Fellaws nine long time five ten two oh five?
Speaker 6: Bad mood.
Speaker 10: About your your bad name stories?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 10: I used I used to bartend and I had a
Speaker 10: girl come in to run a tab and apparently she
Speaker 10: got her bank card when she was seventeen years old,
Speaker 10: so after her name they embossed the words a minor
Speaker 10: after her name. So when you read her name and
Speaker 10: then it said a minor, I just started laughing at her,
Speaker 10: and she couldn't figure out why, and I said, nobody's
Speaker 10: ever pointed this out to you. She said no. I said, well,
Speaker 10: if you read your card guard, it says Nicole swallows
Speaker 10: a minor.
Speaker 8: Thank you Monty redo our screening process.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a big wind up there, big wind
Speaker 1: up there. I was like, what you guys they don't
Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, I don't get it. Sometimes we get
Speaker 1: it and we don't acknowledge that we get it. There
Speaker 1: are a lot of times when we just don't get it.
Speaker 9: It'll get it.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
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