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Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. The only podcast that

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Speaker 2: I think our guest is fantastic. It's Adam Conover. Adam,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: For having me.

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Speaker 4: Bridget welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm so happy

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Speaker 5: I'm really thrilled to be in your backyard. What kind

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Speaker 5: Absolutely no cats should ever be outdoors, nor should we

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Speaker 5: And we need to say they're dog and cat catchers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I am a person when it comes to animals. Now,

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Speaker 4: Well that was the entire plan.

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Speaker 5: People are gonna dislike me for saying this, and I apologize,

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, that is controversy.

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Speaker 2: That's that's what I like to hear that you don't

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Speaker 5: You could keep you could perhaps keep the cat inside,

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Speaker 3: That's my view, And if people want to argue with me,

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Speaker 4: I I'm not going.

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Speaker 2: No, Look that I mean that does feel like a realistic,

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Speaker 5: I just you know, look, I was a little bit

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Speaker 3: I knew you.

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Speaker 5: Of course I don't look at the everyone's got a

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Speaker 3: I don't really look sure.

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Speaker 5: But I was, however, raised with manners, so I of

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Speaker 5: And then only when I was in the lift on

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Speaker 5: In some cultures, when someone says please know, that's the

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Speaker 5: so in that case, I was like, I'll instead of

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Speaker 5: a situation where I said I brought a gift. No please,

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Speaker 2: Okay, So it looks like you've kind of just washed

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Speaker 2: They're working for companies who are not quite fair to

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00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,800
Speaker 2: who they are. We might get into that later, but uh,

446
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,080
Speaker 2: right now, should I open this gift on the podcast?

447
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's no reason not to. I would

448
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,080
Speaker 3: be delighted if you would.

449
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's in kind of a kind of a

450
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 2: bag I'm familiar with, a blue, kind of thick fabric

451
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:21,680
Speaker 2: with a ribbon.

452
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 4: And we're gonna why.

453
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:23,640
Speaker 3: Are you familiar with this bag?

454
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,439
Speaker 2: I've seen this bag delivered to me. Other gifts have

455
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 2: come in this bag.

456
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, well I'll I'll tell you where the bag came from.

457
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:32,960
Speaker 4: Do you want to know?

458
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 5: This is a regifted bag. It didn't come with the

459
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 5: gifts inside. But you know, I was raised by thrifty folk,

460
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 5: and so I was raised to reuse packaging, and so

461
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 5: this was a gift that came This is this is Amazon.

462
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 4: This is an Amazon bag.

463
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, that came from my father gave me a gift

464
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 5: for Christmas. And he does a thing which I don't do,

465
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 5: but he orders things directed on Amazon and clicks gift raft, which,

466
00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 5: in Amazon's case, they put it in a bag.

467
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 2: Comes in the kind of hearty thick What did your

468
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 2: dad give you in this bag?

469
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 4: What was the indust.

470
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 2: Remember your father's heart is breaking. Dad, just two days

471
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 2: before Christmas?

472
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 5: He does ever, he just gets a whole lot of

473
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 5: Amazon Prime stuff. Panics at one am.

474
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,479
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, Well, let's see what's happening in here.

475
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm gonna we're undoing the ribbon, We're opening,

476
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 2: we're opening reaching.

477
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 4: Okay and okay, so what's what is?

478
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 3: There's a little inter there's just open the open that.

479
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a plastic bag that doesn't indicate what we're

480
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 2: looking at yet.

481
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 3: So that's all you need?

482
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 2: Fine, Okay, So now it's uh, there's no English on

483
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 2: this box? Whatsoever? I have absolutely no idea. Well, there's

484
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: a little image on the front that looks like maybe

485
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 2: water is sprang out.

486
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 4: Of it or something.

487
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you recognize this name on the Toto totes?

488
00:21:58,840 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 3: You recognize that brand?

489
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 4: Recognize this as a band?

490
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 3: Sure, there's a band Toto.

491
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I have to assume I've seen Toto before

492
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 2: as a brand.

493
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, you might have seen it on us on an

494
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 5: appliance that's in many people's homes. You might have seen

495
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 5: it on a toilet specifically, is a toilet brand? Does

496
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 5: that help you all figure out what this is?

497
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 4: Is this some sort of beday.

498
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 5: Yes, this is a this is a travel be day

499
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 5: travel badet.

500
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never heard of a travel but day.

501
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an electric travel beday.

502
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 5: It can be charged and uh, you bring it in

503
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 5: your purse or whatever bag you may have, right and

504
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 5: you you see on the side here it's got a

505
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 5: little picture of uh travel if you're traveling. Yeah, someone

506
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 5: someone with a with a rollerboard and so they're on

507
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 5: a plane, or this might be useful. There's some one

508
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 5: of the wheelchair if you if you're a wheelchair user,

509
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 5: might be useful a day in that case. Or someone

510
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 5: with a baby. You could spray that on your baby's butt.

511
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 5: And uh, it's sort of like retracts and you know,

512
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 5: it's got a little button there.

513
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 3: And I'm actually not sure how you charge it.

514
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 4: But well, I mean we'll find out, I suppose.

515
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 2: So you can kind of just throw this in your

516
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 2: carry on, whip it out on the plane.

517
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you see someone going to the airplane bathroom

518
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 5: with one of those, now you know what it is.

519
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 2: If I see somebody going to the airplane bathroom holding this.

520
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: I'm moving seats. How did this come into your life? Okay,

521
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 2: this is as well a regift?

522
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 3: Is that? Okay?

523
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 2: Absolutely to the state. No one has ever regifted on

524
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: this podcast. This is a first.

525
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 3: This is that's unbelievable. I don't believe that at all.

526
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 4: Believe what you want to believe.

527
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 3: Well, this was not a gift for me.

528
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 5: Actually, I went to my girlfriend and I were shopping

529
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 5: for new toilets okay, and we went to the Toto showroom.

530
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 5: So Toto famously makes very high quality toilets okay, and

531
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 5: then they also make bidet attachments for the toilets, like

532
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 5: toilet seats that you sit on. And you know, we

533
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 5: have a our home has very poor quality toilets in it.

534
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 5: And I said, you know what, let's go to the

535
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 5: Toto showroom to see the toilets.

536
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 3: Now.

537
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 5: The interesting thing about the Toto showroom it's in West Hollywood, Okay,

538
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 5: And uh, there's only one guy who works there. So

539
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 5: when we got there, we had made an appointment, and

540
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 5: we got there in his clothes and he texted us,

541
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 5: I'm fifteen minutes away. Just wait out front and so

542
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 5: we're waiting for this guy to come and he unlocks

543
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,479
Speaker 5: the door and we go in and they have a hole.

544
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 5: They have all the Toto toilets all arrayed in a line.

545
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 5: But before you go, when we called him make the appointment,

546
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 5: he was like, okay, you know we don't sell the

547
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 5: toilets here, right, And I was like, yeah, no, I

548
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 5: looked it up on the internet before I made this appointment.

549
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 5: I'm aware you don't sell the toilets at the total showroom.

550
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 5: This place is strictly it's not a Toto dealership. To

551
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 5: go to a separate dealership. This is just a show Yeah,

552
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 5: this is just a showroom.

553
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 4: The parking lot.

554
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is just to This is just to demonstrate

555
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 3: the toilets to you.

556
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 5: And so we went to this place so that we

557
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 5: could see the entire range of tot to Ti in

558
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 5: the showroom. They probably have about twenty toilets, okay. And

559
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 5: there's different combinations of like there's the base toilet, there's

560
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 5: the actual ceramic part of the bowl, and then there's

561
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 5: the the washlet attachment which is the part that sprays

562
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 5: water of your buttot the seat and the day part.

563
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 5: And so we went in order to look at all

564
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 5: the different models and sort of say which one we want,

565
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 5: and then later we haven't done this yet because we

566
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 5: got lazy, but later we'll call a bathroom, you know,

567
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 5: installer toilet. Hey, we want a Toto model XD one

568
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 5: three five with this attachment, right, But you go to

569
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 5: this place. So for mostly we went because it's funny.

570
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 5: I was very tickled by the idea.

571
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 2: I've only ever really heard of a piano showroom. Yeah,

572
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: so I'm picturing that but with toilets.

573
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 5: Yes, And it's but since you can't buy them, it's

574
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 5: really more of a toilet museum. And you can also

575
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 5: go see by the way, they have some toilets in

576
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 5: there that are like twenty thousand dollars.

577
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 4: What's happening with a twenty thousand dollars toilet?

578
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 5: Well, it's mostly very It looks like an egg and

579
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 5: there's no tank, like the tank's in the wall, okay,

580
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 5: And you walk up to it and the seed opens

581
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 5: automatically and it plays a little song. And that's basically it.

582
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 5: I honestly don't know the other one. The cheaper ones

583
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 5: do that too. It's just this one is if you're

584
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 5: so rich that you're like well, I might as well

585
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 5: get the more most expensive one, right.

586
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 4: You know it looks like an egg. It looks like

587
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 4: an egg.

588
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like imagine an egg length wise attached the side

589
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 5: of your wall, and then the top of the egg

590
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 5: goes up and you can poop in it.

591
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 3: That's the most expensive toilet.

592
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 5: And by the way, the guy, the man who showed

593
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 5: us the toilets, was like, there's no reason to get this.

594
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 3: Don't he said, The people who buy this are crazy.

595
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 4: Of course.

596
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 2: I mean when you say a twenty thousand dollars toilet,

597
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: I just pictured the person like five years into the

598
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 2: future and they've lost everything and they're looking at that

599
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: toilet thinking if only I had not made choices like

600
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: buying a twenty thousand dollars toilet.

601
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 3: They're like, this is all I have left is the

602
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: twenty thousand dollars. Can I fence the toilet? What do

603
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 3: I do? I mean, it's it's a real problem.

604
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 5: No, this is the toilet that like Jeff Bezos buys,

605
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 5: where He's like, you know, sometimes in your life you'll

606
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 5: have a situation where you're like, which which one should

607
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 5: I get. I'll just get the most expensive one. The

608
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 5: most expensive one is ten bucks.

609
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 4: Why say it must be better?

610
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 3: It must be better. I'll just get that one. So

611
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 3: if you've got a billion dollars, you might do that.

612
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 5: But I don't want the two thousand dollars toilet or

613
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 5: the twenty thousand dollars toilet.

614
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 4: Only.

615
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 5: I only got I only got three toys. Some my

616
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 5: how's get three the twenty thousand dollars ones? You know

617
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 5: what's the be deal?

618
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 2: I'm Jeff Bezos, right, But I feel like even at

619
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 2: that level now, the assistants are buying the toilets, and

620
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 2: the assistant never feels empowered enough to buy the twenty

621
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: thousand dollars toilet.

622
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: Probably not.

623
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to imagine the person that has that

624
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 2: much money who is still doing their own toilet shopping.

625
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 4: That person is a rare p.

626
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 3: People don't go to the showroom.

627
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 5: You're right, Bezos doesn't go to the show the show

628
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 5: room in West Hollywood.

629
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: No, he's not going.

630
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: We're talking about a toilet enthusiast at that point.

631
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 3: So so let me tell you.

632
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 5: The reason I got this travel today was because we

633
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 5: were The guy was late by fifteen minutes.

634
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 3: At the end, he was like, tell you what, let

635
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 3: me do something for you.

636
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 5: I got here's two Toto travel bidets, and he was like,

637
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 5: these are one hundred dollars value each, is what he

638
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 5: told me.

639
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, thank you, sir.

640
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 4: It will ruin you socially, but it is one hundred

641
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 4: dollars value.

642
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, don't take it to your friend's party, but

643
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:25,719
Speaker 5: I'm gonna use it.

644
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: Do you have a bidet? No, okay, Luckily I came prepared.

645
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 4: I've got one in my purse.

646
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 3: I mean, we could probably you spray some one in

647
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 3: the eye with this, but this was.

648
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: Like at least for a water fight or something. This

649
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: feels like or a self defense. It's got a couple settings.

650
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 5: One is three Japanese character, the other one is five

651
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 5: Japanese character, and maybe that means like five feet.

652
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: Maybe it's sprays five feet.

653
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: Somebody comes at you on the city bus and suddenly

654
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: they're getting a face full of water, wandering down a

655
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: dark alley, this kind of thing.

656
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: Do you think you'll use this gift? I hope that's a.

657
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: Very personal question, and I don't think that. I think

658
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,719
Speaker 2: this is just gonna have to be one of those

659
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: things that we never quite know. I will say that

660
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: I'll continue to own it. Okay, And uh, maybe at

661
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: some point I something happens in my brain and I'm like,

662
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: time to experiment. Will I be traveling with the Bidayuh,

663
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: maybe I need to go on a vacation where I've

664
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: got to be a clean as a whistle at all times.

665
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 4: The B day comes along.

666
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 5: If you're really backpacking, you know through and you're getting.

667
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: And then you really you know, you're in another country

668
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 3: and you're not adjusted to the food yet.

669
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 5: That off the rappens because you're just it's a different

670
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 5: kind of dietary environment and you're like, oh, it's gonna

671
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 5: be a really bad one.

672
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 3: You might be really happy you had this right.

673
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: So maybe it's a thing that I never even open. Well,

674
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: I'll open the box so I can demonstrate on Instagram

675
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: or whatever, But maybe it goes back in the box

676
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: and then gets thrown into my lug, my luggage whenever

677
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: I go somewhere, just in case.

678
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 5: Well, you want to learn to use this before the trip,

679
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 5: that's true, but you don't want to know how to charge.

680
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 3: You don't want to be in the airplane bathroom covered in.

681
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 4: Your own filth calling the pilot to help me trying.

682
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 3: To figure out how do you get this thing to work?

683
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 4: You want to know, people hear me screaming and.

684
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: Crying and just begging anyone with an airshot to get

685
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: this thing going for me. Yeah, so maybe I do

686
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: need to just sit home one Monday, quiet Monday night

687
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: and teach myself how to use the travel but day. Yeah,

688
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: kind of become an expert, and then I can be

689
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: the person on the plane when I hear somebody else struggling,

690
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: I can say, I can knock and say I know

691
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: I've been through this. I can walk you through it,

692
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: bend over. But we'll see what happens. I'm still curious

693
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: about this appointment only toilet showroom.

694
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you go there?

695
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: Are you sitting on the toilets as the salesman is

696
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: what is the actual experience there?

697
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: You?

698
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 5: I mean he shows you the models and the different

699
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 5: prices most of the toilets. In fact, none of the

700
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,719
Speaker 5: ones in the actual showroom are hooked up to plumbing. Okay,

701
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 5: but you can see the features. Friends, and some of

702
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 5: them have an autolifting lid, right, and they say Bridger,

703
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 5: they don't. They play a little song. They play a

704
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 5: little song, and they and and you can see specifically,

705
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 5: for instance, one of the things that some of the

706
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 5: toilets have multiple flush amounts.

707
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 3: They've got a pee flush.

708
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm always soaking whenever I see one of these toilets.

709
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: There's always two buttons, and I never know which one to.

710
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: Push once for pee, ones for poop.

711
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: But it doesn't it's the toilet is always so subtle

712
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: about it.

713
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 5: One water droplet or two water drop right, and you're like,

714
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 5: it's a little difficult. But so you can see, for instance,

715
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 5: that kind of toilet has a different bowl shape, and

716
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 5: you can see what that looks like, and you can

717
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,719
Speaker 5: sit on them. You can test out the butt heating feature.

718
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 5: But then in the actual bathroom of the showroom, they

719
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 5: have one of the twenty thousand dollars toilets and us, yes,

720
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 5: I did, because we were there for forty five minutes.

721
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: I had to peet. I had to pee when I

722
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: came here. I'm gonna pee again before I leave. I

723
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 3: pee a lot.

724
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 4: So I encourage peeing and I encourage drinking.

725
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: We've got to say hydrated, and we've got to stay pless. Yeah,

726
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: you got to empty the bladder. We don't want UTIs

727
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,479
Speaker 2: listener if you need to pee, take a minute, go

728
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: to the bathroom. You don't want too much urine in

729
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: your body at any time. Okay, So you did go

730
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: use the twenty thousand dollars toilet? Did it feel like

731
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: a twenty thousand dollars toilet?

732
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 5: It was not worth the money? Okay, I can't believe

733
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 5: I bought it. It wasn't worth the money.

734
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 4: What toilet did you end up settling on?

735
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: There was one.

736
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't remember the model number, but they

737
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 5: have sort of as it's a very mid middle of

738
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 5: the range. Toto toilets are kind of nice and they're

739
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 5: sort of small. They're very esthetic. The white toilet, the

740
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 5: white toilet, although they do have a they have a

741
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 5: number of colors. They've got like pure white, they've got bone,

742
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 5: they've got cream, then they've got a black toilet.

743
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: Toilet's always a mystery, you know that something's going on

744
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: in that person's life.

745
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's like, first of all, you've got to

746
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 5: have a very specific decore in your home to have

747
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 5: a black toilet match, and secondly.

748
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 4: Have a beach cottage.

749
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: Really, I would say Alvira Mistress of the dark.

750
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: Black toilet, No kind of a New England beachy or

751
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: oh wow, you know, I think that's a black toilet

752
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 2: for sure.

753
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 5: Okay, I was thinking sort of like decadent Los Angeles

754
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 5: bachelor pad.

755
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 4: No, you know, for a rug on the floor.

756
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: The main purchasers of black toilets are grandmothers, really, you know,

757
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: quiet types.

758
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 4: Who just like some tea and a good book.

759
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 5: I think you would think that it's interesting that they're

760
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 5: normally white, because you would think that, well, you'd want

761
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 5: a dark colored toilet so that you don't see what happens.

762
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 5: But then maybe that's why you do want a white toilet,

763
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 5: so that you can see doesn't know one it's clean,

764
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 5: I mean build up, Yeah, you don't see the build up.

765
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 4: A black toilet's an absolutely filthy object.

766
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, because because no one ever takes a

767
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 5: toilet brush to it, you always look at you go, yeah,

768
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 5: it's fine.

769
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: Right, And no one who owns a black toilet, I

770
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: mean the person's life is absolutely out of control.

771
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 4: There.

772
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: Every surface of their home is filthy. Let's just be honest.

773
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: They live basically in a filthy night club. Yeah, the

774
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: decision to buy a black toilet, I mean, I support,

775
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: you know, we're not going to toilet shame. But I

776
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 2: don't know that anyone should buy a black toilet.

777
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 3: My parents in their house have and they they didn't

778
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 3: install this.

779
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 5: It's just there. But there's a gray toilet. It's sad,

780
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 5: it's really it's really toilet. Yeah, oh interesting, it's really

781
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 5: strange gray, like yeah, like a smoky gray.

782
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 3: It's really weird.

783
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 5: And I get I don't know the people who owned

784
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 5: the home before then, they've moved into this place a

785
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 5: few years ago, but uh, it's a it's got their

786
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 5: their home has a lot of weird accessories that was installed.

787
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 5: But I think kind of an eccentric person, and so

788
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 5: I guess he wanted he wanted a gray toilet.

789
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to tell you now, what do you

790
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: think I've heard? This might be another thing that might

791
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: just be a complete myth. But people who like go

792
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: to Canada to buy toilets, is that a real thing

793
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: where it's never of this the water pressure like I

794
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 2: guess they're like within the United States water pressure and

795
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: toy it's as regulated. And so if you go to

796
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: Canada or whatever, you can get a toilet that really

797
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: rips and roars.

798
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 5: Well in I mean, I hope people aren't doing this

799
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 5: here in Los Angeles than in California. More broadly, we have,

800
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 5: you know, limits on the amount of water that can

801
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 5: be flushed, right, and I believe it's limited in LA

802
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 5: to something like one point three gallons, but a standard

803
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 5: toilet might have one gallon. And these Toto toilets, they

804
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 5: have some that'll flush with zero point eight gallons, which

805
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 5: is a benefit if you are wanting to save water

806
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 5: when you pee, you're not wanting to do if it's

807
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 5: yellow leaded mellow, right, so you can you can save

808
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 5: water that way, whereas an old fashioned toilet might use

809
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 5: like three gallons of water on a flush. And like,

810
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 5: we can't be having waterfall in conditions of drought, right, So, uh,

811
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 5: there are limits, and I would imagine now how are

812
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 5: those enforced. They're enforcement the home is built. Probably you

813
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 5: can't sell toilets in California that have flushes over a

814
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 5: certain amounts. So yes, I suppose someone could get it

815
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 5: a foreign toilet, illegal toilet, but I I there's the

816
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 5: thing is there's no benefit to this. Because they've improved

817
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 5: toilet technologies, they don't need as much water.

818
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 4: It's a more efficient toilet.

819
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's still flushing, so there's no there's no

820
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 5: reason to I'm.

821
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: Not thinking about like an industrial type toilet you would

822
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 2: see in a public space, but those do always seem

823
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: like they're yeah, more powerful.

824
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 4: So maybe that's the sort of toilet we're talking about.

825
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 5: Well, those were in those were typically installed much earlier,

826
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 5: oh like a public school or whatever. Right, Like that's

827
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 5: a toilet that was probably installed in like the sixties.

828
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 4: Big lever on it.

829
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, that has it's like forcing the water through

830
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 5: the whirlpool.

831
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

832
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 4: Interesting.

833
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: So, yeah, the illegal toilet trade, I'm not quite sure

834
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 2: if that's you want it. Imagine driving to Canada and

835
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 2: that's the purpose of your vacation. I mean, like a

836
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: twelve hour we I mean probably eighteen hour drive and

837
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: you're thinking about a toilet the entire time.

838
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 5: Efficient appliances are nothing but a boon for society in

839
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 5: every way. They save you money, they save the environment,

840
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 5: you know, like dishwashers have.

841
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 3: Gotten much better washing machines all the time. You know.

842
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: Interest Now, this is not really so much an appliance,

843
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 2: but I've recently become an electric toothbrush owner.

844
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, me too.

845
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 4: What's your feeling on it.

846
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: I love electric. I love my electric toothbrush.

847
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 5: I got one because I was I realized, you know,

848
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 5: the the whole point is the timing that when it times,

849
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 5: it times you on the quadrants and that's much better.

850
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 5: And I was like, I'm getting older, I need to

851
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 5: take care of my teeth.

852
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 4: Right and gums and gums.

853
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 5: And I did good. I have in the last couple

854
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 5: of years. I now have a whole I floss, I

855
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 5: do my teeth. It takes like ten minutes. I literally

856
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 5: put on a podcast, so because first I got do

857
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 5: my my flossing and then my toothbrushing.

858
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 3: But so I do like a basic electric toothbrush.

859
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 5: The electorcoth brushes have gotten out of control with They've

860
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 5: got bluetooth and things.

861
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 4: What is the bluetooth doing?

862
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: Does nothing?

863
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 5: It connects to an app on your phone that analyzes

864
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 5: how well you brush your teeth and sends data back

865
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 5: to Big Tooth.

866
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: They're gonna sell that and your teeth are now in danger, yeah,

867
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 2: your teeth privacy.

868
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 5: And my dentist tried to scam me into buying one

869
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 5: of these because I went to the dentist. And I

870
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 5: had to stop going to this dentist because I realized

871
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 5: this dentist was upselling me. This was a fancy dentist

872
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 5: in Larchmont area. And I started going to this dentist

873
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 5: because my girlfriend was having really bad dental problems and

874
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 5: with a particular cavity that kept the feeling kept falling out,

875
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 5: and she went to Dentisffter Dentists, and finally this dentist

876
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 5: fixed it. And we're like, okay, this guy, this guy

877
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 5: is great. We'll both make the schlep out to Larchmont

878
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 5: to go. But this is a fancy dentist place you

879
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 5: in large They do cosmetic dentistry and stuff like that,

880
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 5: and so we but we have been going there for

881
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 5: a couple of years and then suddenly we go and

882
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 5: we we sit there and me and Lisa, my girlfriend,

883
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 5: both go on the same day. We have a pointless

884
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 5: one after another, and so I go and I sit

885
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 5: down and they have a new dental hygienist, and the

886
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 5: dental hygienis previously when they had done the dental hygiene

887
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 5: for me, they're like, all right, yeah, we blasted yourself. Okay,

888
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 5: we cleaned it all out and then all your teeth

889
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 5: look good, no problem. This time, I go down I

890
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 5: go there, I said, the dental hygienists. New lady had

891
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 5: not seen her before at this office. And she says, oh, no,

892
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 5: your teeth. Oh there's you have big gaps. You have

893
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 5: big um what is it, like big fissures, like like

894
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 5: your gums.

895
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 3: They go really deep. Your gums are receding.

896
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 5: And that's because it's really dirty there and you need

897
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:28,959
Speaker 5: a deep clean.

898
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: You have to have a deep clean, and we need.

899
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 5: To inject like like antibiotics or something like deep into

900
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 5: your teeth or some kind of it was like an

901
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 5: anti viral or something. It was like an extra thing

902
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 5: that was extra money. And she like frightened me. She's like,

903
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 5: we need to get on this right now or you're

904
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 5: gonna lose all your teeth. And then she said, are

905
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 5: you using an electric toothbrush? And I was like, well,

906
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 5: I was thinking about it, but I don't you know,

907
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 5: I haven't bought one yet. And they said, she said, okay,

908
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 5: she does all this shit to my teeth. And then

909
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 5: she says, okay, you need to use this electric toothbrush.

910
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 5: And then she takes an electric toothbrush and puts it

911
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 5: in my hand. You're going to buy this. And then leaves,

912
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 5: and so while I'm sitting there, I look up the

913
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 5: electric toothbrush on the wire cutter, and the wirecutter says,

914
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 5: this is a two hundred and.

915
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 3: Fifty dollars electric toothbrush. There's no reason to own this.

916
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 5: It has no advantages over a thirty dollars electric tooth

917
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 5: rush at all. So just get the thirty dollars one.

918
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 5: And she comes back and I say, hey, so I'm

919
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 5: not going to get this because the thirty dollars one

920
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 5: is just good, and she says, no, no, no, no,

921
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 5: this is the one we recommend.

922
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: And I say no.

923
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 5: I say no, captive, I'm a captive. I'm sitting there

924
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 5: with with a with a you know, a sheet on me.

925
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 5: I'm tied up, I'm in the chair, my legs are

926
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 5: higher than my.

927
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 4: Head, there's no escape, there's nowhere for.

928
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 3: Me to even put it.

929
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 5: I'm like, I won't be taking this, and I just

930
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 5: sort of like toss it off to the side of

931
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 5: the floor like just I'm sorry, I won't be getting this.

932
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 5: So she all right, and then I get up and

933
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 5: I leave and I go to the front and the

934
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 5: receptionist behind says, so, I heard you're getting an electric

935
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 5: toothbrush today, and I said, no, I'm not many electric toothbrush.

936
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 5: And then they charge me, you know, they they charge

937
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 5: my insurance and then they say, okay, it's gonna be

938
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 5: an extra hundred dollars for your you know, for all

939
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 5: the treatments here today. It's like, all right, fine, I

940
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 5: pay this, and then I'm leaving, and my girlfriend says

941
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 5: to me, She's like she was waiting for me, but

942
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 5: as I'm leaving, she's like upset. She's like, the dental

943
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 5: the hygienis told me that my teeth are She got

944
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 5: the same speech, Yeah, that my teeth are in really

945
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 5: bad shape, and that I needed to get this injection

946
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 5: of like antibacterial stuff, like a deep clean and and

947
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 5: I was like, she said the same thing to me,

948
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 5: and we we last came here six months ago.

949
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: They didn't tell us this shit. So I'm like, you

950
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 3: know what happened.

951
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 5: They got a new dental hygienist who told the dentists

952
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 5: tell you what, I'm gonna turn the whole business around.

953
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna let I've looked at your numbers. You're not

954
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 5: doing well enough. Let me tell you something I'll bring

955
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 5: in my system. Here's what I do. I tell them

956
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 5: their teeth are falling out of their heads, they need

957
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 5: the special injection, they need the deep clean.

958
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: I sell them a toothbrush.

959
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 5: Increase your revenue, And they said hired, and they started

960
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 5: telling people this and and I literally was like, I

961
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 5: still liked the dentist himself.

962
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: I think he's a good dentist. But I was like,

963
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 3: I can't go here anymore.

964
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 4: I hired kind of a scam artist.

965
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 5: I don't trust them anymore because if I what happens,

966
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 5: I go in next time and they say now that

967
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 5: I now that they've broken the bond of trust because

968
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 5: they've told me. And by the way, I started going

969
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 5: to a new dentist. And the new dentist when I

970
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 5: went to them, they're like, yeah, your teeth look good. Yeah, no,

971
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 5: have you been flawssing good? You're doing fine, see you

972
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 5: in six months. So I'm like, I can't go to

973
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 5: this old dentist because I don't trust them, right, And

974
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 5: what if I go in and they say you need

975
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 5: dental surgery or you need a cavity, I'm not going

976
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 5: to believe them that I need it to be done.

977
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 5: They've been lying to me, and so I can't have

978
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 5: this with a dentist. And then here's the last part. Okay,

979
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 5: so first of all, this is if your experience has

980
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 5: anything like mine, you can question your dentist a little.

981
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 5: And I don't tell people to question their their medical professionals.

982
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 3: But this is the case in which I think.

983
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 4: Is healthy skepticism, just a pinch or ask around.

984
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 5: But then I realized they sent me. After I got back,

985
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 5: they sent me another bill.

986
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 3: For one hundred dollars.

987
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 4: What was this for?

988
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 3: This? This is what they did.

989
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 5: Every time I would go in and I would get

990
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 5: their treatments, and then they would say, okay, we're going

991
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 5: to charge your insurance and then here's the code. Pay

992
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 5: seventy to one hundred dollars, right, And then I would

993
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 5: get home and they would say, you know, a month later,

994
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 5: i'd get a bill and they would say, okay, well

995
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 5: we got this much from your insurance, but your insurance

996
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,959
Speaker 5: didn't pay us the last hundred dollars, so you owso

997
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 5: one hundred dollars.

998
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 3: And I used to pay it every single.

999
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 4: Time, right, just without thinking, yeah, this.

1000
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 5: Time because I decided, fuck this place, they're up charging.

1001
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 5: I was selling me on everything. I'm not going to

1002
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 5: go there anymore, I replied, and I said, I won't

1003
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 5: be paying this because you already charged my insurance and

1004
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 5: that's how much it's worth, like I don't know you

1005
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 5: any more money, right, And they just never replied, and

1006
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 5: I realized, I realized the whole time, this is just

1007
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 5: this is just a dental office that has realized if

1008
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 5: they just ask people for one hundred dollars, they'll usually

1009
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 5: pay it.

1010
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 4: That is chilling, they'll usually pay it.

1011
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 5: But like, because the way it works is the way

1012
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 5: it works with medical billing in America's horrible health system

1013
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 5: is that the medical provider basically makes up numbers right

1014
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 5: for how much the services cost. The insurer then says,

1015
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, that's not how much this costs. This is

1016
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 5: how much we're going to pay you, and they haggle,

1017
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 5: they negotiate with the insurer. In this case, this dentist

1018
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 5: is making a choice to say, hey, our made up

1019
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 5: number you still owe us, that you still low us

1020
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 5: the extra hundred dollars.

1021
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 3: But like under what rules I owed them?

1022
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 4: I wasn't part of this negotiating.

1023
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 5: I paid them a copay right as what I was

1024
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 5: required to by my insurance plan. I wanted to, Like,

1025
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 5: if they're if they don't want to take my insurance

1026
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 5: right and want to make me pay out of pocket,

1027
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 5: they can insist. But they weren't doing that. They were

1028
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 5: just you know, offering me a bill, sending me a bill.

1029
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 5: So I realized, like, this is just a thing that

1030
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 5: people need to know about healthcare in America.

1031
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 3: Fucking haggle with them just when you get a.

1032
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 4: Billy day, Okay, I'm happy to say no.

1033
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you might end Look, if it's a really

1034
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 5: serious thing, unlike a shitty dentist, you're never going to

1035
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 5: see again.

1036
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 3: You might not win the negotiation.

1037
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 5: But like if if you just take the step of

1038
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 5: arguing with them, and this is the main this is

1039
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 5: the main thing people say when you go to the hospital,

1040
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 5: if you get a bill from the hospital, you have

1041
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 5: to ask them for an itemized bill. Because once you

1042
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 5: do that, that's them knowing, Okay, this person's smart and

1043
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 5: we have to at least give them a real bill.

1044
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 5: And then you can look at the bill and the

1045
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 5: number will come back. If you just ask for an

1046
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 5: itemized bill, it'll come down. If you just ask for that.

1047
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 4: Wow, that's fascinating, it is.

1048
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 5: But then beyond that, you can haggle with them and say,

1049
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 5: I'm I'm not paying this, I can't pay this.

1050
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: You know what sort of financial assistance do you offer?

1051
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 5: There are people called medical Billing Advocates who you can

1052
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 5: find if you, for instance, live in California, you can

1053
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 5: look up California Medical Billing Advocates and these are organizations

1054
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 5: that will help you negotiate with a hospital by just

1055
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 5: being a sort of you know, you're representative who knows

1056
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 5: how it.

1057
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 3: Works better than you do.

1058
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 4: Some of the books, some.

1059
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 3: Of them are nonprofits.

1060
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 4: Service.

1061
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 5: It is a great service. It's really important. More people

1062
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 5: need to take advantage of it. So that's my horrible

1063
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 5: story about you simply asking me if I use an

1064
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 5: electric truth brush led to that entire story.

1065
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 4: I mean, And now just a mild counterpoint.

1066
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: You went to the this dentist, had a fine time,

1067
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: went six months later, had this horrible time. Is there

1068
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: any chance in the in between you ate a lot

1069
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: of Halloween candy? I'm not ruling that out.

1070
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 5: I don't eat much candy, to be honest. I eat

1071
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 5: ice cream, but not so much candy and ice cream.

1072
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 5: You know, you don't need that offense sound as bad

1073
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 5: for you.

1074
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 4: Okay, well I'll decide on.

1075
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 3: My teeth got worse again. I went to another dentist later.

1076
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 4: I love it.

1077
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: I love a dental hygienist. Usually when pushed, I will

1078
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: side with the hygienist. So, not knowing this person and

1079
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: obviously admiring their salesmanship and kind of their bravado.

1080
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 4: I'm not going to pick a side here.

1081
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: I'm happy for you and your journey away from this

1082
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: person who made you uncomfortable.

1083
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: But I think that she elitch Aliekh try to take

1084
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: my money for me.

1085
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I've recently and this is probably the most

1086
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: boring story in the world, but I recently had a

1087
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: hygienist experience. I had made a playlist of songs which

1088
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: uh probably a ten am on a let's say a

1089
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: Wednesday morning. I decided to label it vanishing Hygienist. Two

1090
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 2: hours later, I get a call from my dentist about

1091
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: my appointment that day, and they said, unfortunately, we have

1092
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 2: to cancel. The hygienist isn't coming in. Did I will

1093
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: that hygienis into coming in?

1094
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: Why did you call a playlist vanishing hygienis?

1095
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 2: It kind of had this kind of a sleepy feel,

1096
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: and I kind of like almost fading out.

1097
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 4: I started thinking, oh maybe like.

1098
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 6: Just like as an artistic combint and it kind of

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Speaker 6: felt kind of dreamy and uh like you had almost

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Speaker 6: been administered something by a hygienist and they were fading away.

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00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: Wow, and so but then two hours later my hygienis

1102
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: actually vanishes.

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Speaker 4: What do how the hours later you make this playlist?

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00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 4: How do we explain?

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00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 5: I mean, I think you I think you have the

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00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 5: gift of sight. Think I think you maybe have you know,

1107
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 5: I think you're a psychic?

1108
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 3: Could be, could be, we don't know. Is there any

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00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 3: other explanation?

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Speaker 5: I mean, the other explanation is random chance, and that

1111
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 5: coincidence has happened in everybody's lives as a non statistical certainty,

1112
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 5: everyone will experience some coincidences in their lives that are

1113
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 5: seem almost impossible because of how many things happened to you.

1114
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 5: Eventually you will experience a crazy coincidence. Could be that,

1115
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 5: or it could be.

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00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: That you have ESP.

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00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 2: I tend to lean towards ESP. Okay, and we'll just

1118
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: let the listener, of course decide. Yeah, this has been

1119
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 2: very contentious for both of us and my hygienist, and

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Speaker 2: so I mean the hygienist did end up coming the

1121
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Speaker 2: next day, I went to the dental appointment and told

1122
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 2: me that they had had COVID. Oh, so the whole

1123
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: experience was I have a lot of dental Last year

1124
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: was a year of dental hell for me.

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Speaker 3: This year, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 2: You know, the dentist is a tricky medical procedure. You

1127
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: never quite know what.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna get.

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00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, we love our dentists, but as you've demonstrated, some

1130
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: dentists are not to be trusted. Some hygienists, unfortunately apparently

1131
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: can't be trusted. Although I do side with you hygienists.

1132
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: I I hopefully you.

1133
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 4: Have a union. I'm happy to speak.

1134
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: I'm happy to come in and meet with you people

1135
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 2: and talk through this. But okay, I have my electric

1136
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: bidet which could probably also as a water pick, so.

1137
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 5: Only of you only use it for that purpose the

1138
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 5: first time. Use it as a bidet. Don't then try

1139
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 5: to repurpose later as a water pick. It would be

1140
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 5: my advice.

1141
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not going to be told what to do

1142
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 2: with my electric I'm sorry, it's yours, it's my life,

1143
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 2: it's my bidet and we'll see what happens.

1144
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 3: Once it passes from my hands into yours. You can

1145
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 3: use it whatever you want.

1146
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: I've been given this kind of sacred power, and we'll

1147
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: see what I do with it. We'll see how responsible

1148
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 2: I am. But I think it's time to play a game.

1149
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 3: Oh, let's play a game.

1150
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: Let's play a game called Gift for a Curse. I

1151
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: need a number between one and ten from you.

1152
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 3: Nine, Okay.

1153
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: I have to do some light calculating to get our

1154
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 2: game pieces. In the meantime, you can recommend something, you

1155
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 2: can promote something, you have the mic, Oh, whatever you want.

1156
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 5: Well, I hope folks will check out. My new show

1157
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 5: on Netflix is called The G Word. It's an educational

1158
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 5: comedy show about the government and how it affects our lives,

1159
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 5: both good and bad.

1160
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: It's very funny and weird.

1161
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 5: I do a bunch of crazy shit, like fly into

1162
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 5: a hurricane with the Air Force's Hurricane Hunters, and I

1163
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 5: go to a meat processing plant to see how meat

1164
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 5: is inspected by the USDA, and former President Obama is

1165
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 5: in it. And we highlight a lot of crazy shit.

1166
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 5: And if you have liked any of my weird irritating

1167
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 5: facts that I've delivered to you on this podcast today.

1168
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 3: You might enjoy that show. It's called The g Word.

1169
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: It's on Netflix now.

1170
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 5: And I also do a podcast in my own called Actually,

1171
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 5: where I interview a different amazing expert from around the

1172
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 5: world of human knowledge.

1173
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 6: Every single episode that podcast is called Factually, how does

1174
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 6: Obama smell?

1175
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 3: Scentseless?

1176
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 4: Senseless?

1177
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 5: That makes sense, ab absolutely no sense. A dog would

1178
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 5: not even notice if you.

1179
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 2: Entry, like a new iPhone or something that makes That

1180
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 2: actually makes perfect sense to me. I don't even know

1181
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: why I asked. I knew the answer before I asked it. Okay,

1182
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 2: this is how we play Gift or a Curse. I'm

1183
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: gonna name three things. Okay, You're gonna tell me if

1184
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: there are a gift or a curse and why, and

1185
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 2: then I'm going to tell you if you're right or wrong,

1186
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: because there are correct answers here. Okay, okay. Number one

1187
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 2: These are all listeners suggestions. The first one is from

1188
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: someone named Mackenzie. Gift or a curse sitting and talking

1189
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: at the table after you've already paid your bill.

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00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 3: Oh, curse at a restaurant, I assume.

1191
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 4: Yes, probably not a hospital.

1192
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 5: I I I believe it's a curse. You First off,

1193
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 5: if you want to sit and talk longer, you can.

1194
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 5: That's where you order coffee or dessert. There's a right

1195
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 5: part of the restaurant for this. First of all, it's

1196
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 5: a curse for the people who work at the restaurant.

1197
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 5: They need to turn those tables over. You're interfering with

1198
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 5: their ability to make a living at the restaurant.

1199
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 3: Now, there's there's a grace period.

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00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 5: Sure, you know there's like ten, three or four hours,

1201
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 5: but also you know you've already been sitting at this

1202
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 5: restaurant for like ninety minutes at this point. If you

1203
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 5: want to keep hanging out, get up and go for

1204
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 5: a walk, go get ice cream.

1205
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 2: You know That's what I think. So it's a curse

1206
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 2: perfect of course. I mean, I mean not only for

1207
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 2: those reasons. And as a former waiter, I know that

1208
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: pain very well. It's like, get out of here. The money,

1209
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 2: the exchange is over, and I need to get those

1210
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 2: dishes off the table.

1211
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 4: I need to get this moving.

1212
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 2: Also, as a diner, I'm so nervous after we've paid

1213
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: the money and the meal is over. Yeah, ten minutes,

1214
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: I'm happy to sit there, but I'm so anxious to

1215
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 2: exit the restaurant. At that point, I feel like I'm

1216
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 2: now an intruder in other people's space. I'm it's an

1217
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: absolute curse if you enjoy the company of these people.

1218
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, the last thing is you're also ruining the social script.

1219
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 5: We all know we're at the restaurant. We know what

1220
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 5: the next step is. The bill came, you paid the bill,

1221
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 5: and then eventually, you know, you got a little grace perier.

1222
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 5: Then someone says, well shall we and then you all

1223
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 5: get up and you go, someone uses the bathroom.

1224
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 3: There's like a whole script here.

1225
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 5: If you don't do this, if you unilaterally decide I

1226
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 5: like something and talking after the bill is coming, you're

1227
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 5: putting everyone at the table with you in an awkward

1228
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 5: position of going like why why is nobody why is

1229
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 5: nobody standing up?

1230
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 2: Part of me, I'm no longer fully engaged in the conversation.

1231
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 2: I'm so nervous. I can't quite dial into the conversation.

1232
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 2: I'm waiting to get out.

1233
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 3: I don't even like dessert at restaurants.

1234
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 4: I don't either, I like to eat a dessert in

1235
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 4: another look.

1236
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 3: Exactly, shake my hands, exactly right.

1237
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 5: Because the desserts and restaurants are almost always terrible because

1238
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 5: they're not These are an afterthought. These are not dessert kitchens. Yes,

1239
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 5: what are they going to give you? Molten lava cake?

1240
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 5: Crembrew let, We've had it. It's not that good. Neither

1241
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 5: of those are that good? Sorbet fine, whatever they have

1242
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 5: it they bought. They bought it in bulk in the

1243
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 5: back and sitting in the freezer, Like, what the fuck?

1244
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 3: Go walk and go get ice cream. Yes, I've got

1245
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 3: a bunch on this podcast.

1246
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 4: Well it's a delicious thing to eat.

1247
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1248
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it mixes up the evening. You've already enjoyed

1249
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 2: the space. I don't need to extend the restaurant experience.

1250
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: I already had the main thing. Yeah, I don't know.

1251
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 2: And also I know I'm going to be spending money elsewhere,

1252
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 2: but when we're multiplying the money on the current ticket,

1253
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 2: it's too much. Yeah, I'm like, let's go spend money

1254
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 2: on another location.

1255
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, or go to a bar if you prefer. I

1256
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 5: don't anymore, but you know, when I did it, it's like,

1257
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 5: that's a very nice.

1258
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: Right, there's a nice little chat spot. Okay, Well you've

1259
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 2: gotten one out of one excellent number two. This is

1260
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: from someone named g K. Those are some mysterious initials

1261
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 2: give to a curse.

1262
00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 5: Trial subscriptions, trial subscriptions, just anything in general.

1263
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. Trial subscription agazine.

1264
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: They're a curse.

1265
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 5: They're designed to suck you in and you know, get

1266
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 5: you now. Look, there's a very rare type of trial

1267
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 5: subscription which I'm fine with, and that's trial subscription that

1268
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 5: does not ask for any payment information.

1269
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 3: Oh but that's very rare.

1270
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 5: Most of them will ask you for your credit card

1271
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 5: because all they're doing is they're just gonna charge you.

1272
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 5: You know, they're gonna charge you once later. It's a

1273
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 5: way for them to get your credit card information. You're

1274
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 5: not gonna remember to unsubscribe, and even if you did,

1275
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 5: it's like a lot of work. A lot of places

1276
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 5: will make you, like call them on the phone. There's

1277
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 5: no way to unsubscribe on the website. You have to

1278
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 5: call them on the phone and then they say, why

1279
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 5: do you want to unsubscribe?

1280
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 3: Right?

1281
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 5: You have to have a whole fucking conversation with them.

1282
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 5: So it's not that I've never taken advantage of a

1283
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 5: trial subscription. Certainly there's been a couple instances where I'm like, yes, okay,

1284
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 5: I'm uh it gets helps get me over the hump.

1285
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 5: I was thinking about subscribing, but you know what, it's

1286
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 5: just a trial, et cetera.

1287
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 3: But this is this is not a.

1288
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 2: Freebie, right, oh adam, They're a gift. It's absolutely a gift.

1289
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: Of course, have to be very careful. You have to

1290
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: be very careful. But it's a challenge to the subscriber.

1291
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 2: You're you're about to get a week of free something,

1292
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 2: but you have to you have to rise to the challenge.

1293
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: You have to set a reminder on your phone. You

1294
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 2: have to send yourself an email that you leave unopened

1295
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 2: until you've canceled the subscription. We've all got to do

1296
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 2: the trial subscriptions, but we've got to be better about canceling.

1297
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 2: But also there is kind of a little bit of

1298
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 2: a thrill, a little bit of danger to thinking, oh

1299
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 2: I might be charged seven to ninety nine in a month.

1300
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 3: There's the se I disagree with you fundamentally.

1301
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 5: I think that I don't think it should be on

1302
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 5: the individual, because I think trial subscriptions are taking advantage

1303
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 5: of a flaw in human psychology that we are born

1304
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 5: with that can never escape, which is that we are

1305
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 5: bad thinking about the future and about remembering to do

1306
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 5: these things. And and so what they're trying to set

1307
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 5: up is just a system by which money can be

1308
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 5: silently siphoned away out of our account. Why is every

1309
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 5: Why is literally every single service turning into a subscription everything?

1310
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: We will eventually be renting every single object in our lives.

1311
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 5: And that's because that what it does is it removes

1312
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 5: for the seller the pain point of you having to

1313
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,479
Speaker 5: give them money. When you when you have to decide

1314
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 5: to give them money, I don't want to. But if

1315
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 5: you just make the decision, I'm to send it for

1316
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 5: a trial membership is not costing me anything. Now, then

1317
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 5: when the money starts coming out of your account, you

1318
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 5: don't even notice. And so this is like saying, you know,

1319
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 5: slot machines at the casino, that's on you to figure

1320
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 5: out when to stop doing it. No, these are designed

1321
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 5: to be addictive, right, designed to steal money from you

1322
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 5: and trick you by exploiting human psychology. And that's what

1323
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 5: the trial subscriptions do too.

1324
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 2: Now.

1325
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 5: I don't think either of them should be like illegal,

1326
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 5: but they are shitty interesting.

1327
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 2: I mean, look beautifully argued, not getting the point. We've

1328
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: got to be careful with the trial subscriptions. Of course,

1329
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 2: we have to write to the Challenge to rip these

1330
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 2: corporations off. Sign up for it and then just cancel immediately.

1331
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 2: A lot of these will just then allow you to

1332
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: have the full week free of charge. But you've got

1333
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 2: to outsmart the system. And uh so for those reasons.

1334
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: A gift, an absolute gift, a perfect gift. So you've

1335
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 2: gotten one out of two. You've got a final chance here, Mariah.

1336
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 2: Mariah has written in gift or a curse leaf blowers.

1337
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 3: Oh, these are a curse.

1338
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 5: Oh you won't possibly, you're not going to sit here

1339
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 5: and claim to me that a leaf.

1340
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 3: Blower is a gift.

1341
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 5: Well, we'll see you've fallen into such a trap now

1342
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 5: if that's what you think. So first of all, let's

1343
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 5: just all agree that leaves do not need to be blown.

1344
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 5: We have these things called rakes. They work great, and

1345
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 5: leave blowing the leaf. This doesn't solve your problem. A

1346
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 5: leaf is still around, is going to blow right back

1347
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 5: to where it was. If you were, now, for instance,

1348
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 5: to suck a leaf a leaf vacuum.

1349
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 3: That would remove the leaf. If you're really worried about

1350
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 3: of the leaves.

1351
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 5: But also leaf blowers are the noisiest thing ever made,

1352
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 5: and they do They're noisier than a lawnmower, and they

1353
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 5: do less. Here you are in Highland Parker. I'm sure

1354
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 5: that many an afternoon has been ruined for you on

1355
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 5: a weekend by a leaf blower. And here's the kapper.

1356
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 3: Ready. Are you ready for this? I'm ready.

1357
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 5: The engine that is used by leaf blowers. It's a small,

1358
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 5: single cylinder engine. It's one of the most inefficient engines

1359
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 5: that is used in any combustion device.

1360
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 3: They burn gasoline.

1361
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 5: They take gasoline, and they burn it in such an

1362
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 5: inefficient way that they create an incredible amount of greenhouse

1363
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 5: gases and pollutants when it's completely unnecessary for them to

1364
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 5: do so.

1365
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 3: Again, to do this thing that nobody really needs to

1366
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 3: have done.

1367
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 5: And so there's actually I think pretty soon California should

1368
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 5: be passing a law that will ban the sale of

1369
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 5: new ones, because there are actually now electric leaf blowers

1370
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 5: that should work just as well.

1371
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 3: And I don't really have a problem with this is electricity.

1372
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 2: But I'll be traveling to Canada to get their leaf flowers.

1373
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 2: I need a toilet and a leaf blower. I'll be

1374
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 2: back in thirty eight hours.

1375
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 3: Gasoline powered leaf blowers are a cursed ever.

1376
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 5: They ruin everything for everybody, and they're unnecessary and uh

1377
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 5: and a lot of them are very old because they

1378
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 5: you know, people people keep using them for a.

1379
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and people also don't like Look, ninety percent.

1380
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 5: Of the time a leaf blower is not being used

1381
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 5: by a person who actually owns the home says I

1382
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 5: want my leaves to be blown, right. They're instead being

1383
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 5: used by this person as some rich fuck Right. They've

1384
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 5: just hired some landscaper maintenance person to come by, and

1385
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 5: that person is just doing it because I don't give

1386
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 5: a shit.

1387
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 3: I don't live here.

1388
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 5: I don't care about the noise. You know, this is

1389
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 5: just like part of what I do. And so this

1390
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 5: is being done senselessly. If we were to literally confiscate

1391
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 5: every gasoline powered leaf blower in the state of California,

1392
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 5: first of all, no one would notice for a month

1393
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 5: except for the people who are, you know, doing the work.

1394
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 5: Sure be compensating, making sure they don't lose any income.

1395
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 3: But I don't blame the worker. I blame the I

1396
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 3: blame the machine.

1397
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 5: But first of all, our lives would be no worse

1398
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 5: if we weren't blowing these leaves around, And secondly, we

1399
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 5: would all be breathing much cleaner and we would have

1400
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 5: much more.

1401
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 3: RESTful Sunday afternoons.

1402
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 5: Or we could just relax in our backyards and listen

1403
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 5: to a little music on the bluetooth speaker and not

1404
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 5: have it be overpowered by why are we allowing this

1405
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 5: in the first place? This is my absolutely a curse.

1406
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 5: I defy you to argue that it's a gift.

1407
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 2: Adam, You're not gonna have any pushback from me. I hate,

1408
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: of course, I hate.

1409
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 4: I can't.

1410
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 2: In what way could I honestly stand up for a

1411
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: leaf blower? I mean, I do like the idea of

1412
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 2: an electric leaf blower, like a sleek, silent thing that's

1413
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: blowing things around my yard. I haven't seen one. I'm

1414
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 2: not aware of how I would even procure one. Or

1415
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 2: a leaf sucker. That's an interesting A giant vacuum shop back, yeah,

1416
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 2: a shop back, but then you're cleaning it out. Get

1417
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,479
Speaker 2: the rake, get a ray, get the pile of leaves.

1418
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 2: Then you get the fun of the fall old fashioned.

1419
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 3: Fox, and we'll come around and jump in the leaf pile.

1420
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 4: Right, you get to own a rake.

1421
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting looking object that can kind of

1422
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: fall over you while you're like going through the garage.

1423
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 2: I absolutely despise the sound, the smell, the concept.

1424
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 3: I thought you're hearing.

1425
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 2: We're hearing a plane, which is probably quieter than a

1426
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 2: leaf blower. So I mean, I do feel slightly bad

1427
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 2: kind of talking about leaf blowers in this way. And

1428
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 2: none have interrupted this podcast yet. We've had a fire truck,

1429
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: we've had an ambulance, we've had multiple helicopters and a plane,

1430
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 2: and we're throwing all of this shame on the leaf blower.

1431
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 2: But that's because it's a horrible object. It's a curse.

1432
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 2: You got two out of three, not bad. Thank you

1433
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 2: excellently played.

1434
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1435
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 2: It's time for the final segment of the podcast. I

1436
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 2: said no emails. People are writing into I said no

1437
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 2: gifts at gmail dot com.

1438
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 4: Desperate.

1439
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 2: Every one of my listeners is a sprint kind of

1440
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 2: They're just scratching at me to get answers, and so

1441
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 2: I do it politely. I get into it. They have problems,

1442
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 2: will help me answer a question, Yeah, of course, Okay,

1443
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 2: so this says did I said they're writing into I said,

1444
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 2: no gift at gmail dot com. It doesn't matter. Hello,

1445
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 2: Bridger and Guest. I have been placed on the Wellness

1446
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 2: Month committee for my company. I am responsible for coming

1447
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 2: up with a company wide gift to give everyone. The

1448
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 2: gift should be relatively affordable, since we're buying like fifty

1449
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 2: of them, and of course something everyone would like a

1450
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 2: gift universally beloved. Last year, everyone got a Yetti tumbler. Help,

1451
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 2: what should I get every single person in my company

1452
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 2: this year? Your help would be greatly appreciated, sincerely, CK.

1453
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 2: Oh interesting that we've had a GK and a CK.

1454
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 2: We've got these initials happening all over the podcast at

1455
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 2: this point. Okay, so this person needs fifty things for

1456
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 2: the Wellness Month committee. I don't know what wellness month even.

1457
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 3: Is, So does it need to be a wellness yeah?

1458
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 2: I mean the example given a Yetti tumbler, which I

1459
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 2: guess keeps you hydrated.

1460
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, but not explicitly helpful thing.

1461
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 2: So I mean, right off the bat, cigarettes that's on

1462
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 2: the table. Everybody gets fifty dollars worth of cigarettes?

1463
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 4: What is that a pack?

1464
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how much a cigarette costs at this point,

1465
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 2: so that's one thing. That cart that's a carton. Okay,

1466
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 2: so there you go. See k wrap those up and

1467
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: give them out if you need something a little more helpful.

1468
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 5: What to we give them, Well, first of all, I'm

1469
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 5: a big fan and what I try to get people

1470
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 5: in my own life a lot. Now, I'm a big

1471
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 5: fan of food gifts because food gifts are everybody loves them,

1472
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 5: you know, if you get the right food and they

1473
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,479
Speaker 5: don't go to waste. So I have you know, water

1474
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 5: containers are one that you might think is popular, But

1475
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 5: I have so many Swag water containers. I mean now jeans,

1476
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 5: I have Swell bottles. I have so many of them,

1477
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 5: and I already have one that I use every day.

1478
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you kind of get used to Yeah, and you

1479
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 2: don't need to branch out.

1480
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so I think that that can end up

1481
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 5: creating a lot of waste. Like Yetti tumblers, those are nice.

1482
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 5: Yetti is like sort of a high end company, and

1483
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 5: so those are probably and I'm thinking Tumblr, they're probably

1484
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 5: talking about one of those like large coffee tumblers.

1485
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 2: Right, I'm picturing everyone at this company driving to work

1486
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 2: in the morning with the coffee and they're Yetti tumbler

1487
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 2: and they're happy.

1488
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 3: But I've but.

1489
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 5: I've received myself two or three coffee tumblers, and I'm like,

1490
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 5: I use a thermos, like I use it Japanese dojarushi thermos.

1491
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 5: I'm really into Japanese we got. It's a it's a

1492
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 5: really nice sort of it's got like a clasp, but

1493
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 5: it never spills. You can like throw it up in

1494
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 5: the air and it won't spill. It keeps everything hot

1495
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 5: or cold forever. It's really great for my commute. I'm

1496
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 5: a bus and train commuter, so it's really good for that.

1497
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 4: And what did it cost?

1498
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 5: These things are costs like twenty bucks, But so the

1499
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 5: kind that's more of a car cup is not useful

1500
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 5: to me, the kind you might have in a car next.

1501
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 5: So so anything like that's an object everybuying for fifty people,

1502
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 5: You're some of that's going to go to waste, right, and.

1503
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 4: So somebody's not going to be happy with their gift.

1504
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 5: But if you can find a good if you can

1505
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 5: find a good food gift that everyone will like, so

1506
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 5: it can't be booze.

1507
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 4: Right because people don't an allergen.

1508
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you you might want to avoid wheat,

1509
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 5: but For instance, something that might be nice would be, uh,

1510
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 5: some nice dark chocolate if there's a dark chocolate gift box.

1511
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 3: Everybody loves chocolate.

1512
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 5: If they don't they know someone else who loves chocolate,

1513
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 5: that chocolate is getting eaten no matter what by somebody.

1514
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, by some wilderhood dog. Yeah.

1515
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,919
Speaker 5: Another one that I like to get people is there's

1516
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 5: a there's a pineapple company called Maui Gold. But so

1517
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 5: these are these are like gold Maui Gold. These are

1518
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 5: like special pineapples. And it's like forty dollars to get

1519
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 5: a pineapple ship to somebody, which was expensive. It's a

1520
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 5: single pineapple, but it's like supposedly I've ever actually had one,

1521
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 5: but everyone I've gotten one for says that's the best

1522
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 5: pineapple I've ever had.

1523
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 3: And it's so it's it creates delight in someone.

1524
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 5: It's a great gift to give someone who you might

1525
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 5: have a business relationship with, and you want to get

1526
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 5: this something around the holidays, but you don't want to

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01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 5: think too much about I'm give them a pineapple.

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01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 2: Pineapple is a beautiful kind of almost retro gift to

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01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 2: get exactly anyway, I'm don Draper opening it in my

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01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:12,439
Speaker 2: office and.

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01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 5: Exactly, and it takes the place of say a bottle

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01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 5: of wine. But I don't Again, I don't drink, so

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01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 5: I don't get people bottles of wine because I'm attuned

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01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 5: to the fact that not everybody drinks.

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01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 3: So there's that.

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01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 5: Here's my other suggestion, in addition to a food gift

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01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 5: is there are companies that will sell you charity gift cards.

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01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 5: And so these are gift cards that you can use

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01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 5: to you know, you give someone a gift, a charity

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01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 5: gift card for fifty dollars, then they go on the

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01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 5: website and then they choose where the fifty dollars goes, right,

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01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 5: so you know they can And there's a company called

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01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 5: tis Best TI s b E s T dot org,

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01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 5: tis best dot org right, and they will send you

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01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 5: I believe you can do like a bulk order. If

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01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 5: you want to get fifty fifty dollars gift cards, you

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01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 5: can do that, or you can do it via email

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01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 5: and say I want to email people the gift cards

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01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 5: and then they receive the gift card. They go online

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01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 5: and they enter the code, just like for an Amazon

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01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 5: gift card, but they do it on that website and

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01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 5: they can choose you know, among like a couple hundred

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01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 5: different charities which they wanted.

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01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 3: To go to.

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01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 4: That so lovely gift.

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01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 5: That's really nice because I them choose the charity. And

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01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 5: here's now let's go a little cynical. I believe you

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01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 5: as the company might get a rite off.

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01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah we go here, we go dodging taxes.

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01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 5: But it's really good to uh, it's if the gesture

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01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 5: is more important than the gift itself. And you want

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01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 5: to give people. You know, some people might say, ah,

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01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 5: fuck you, I wanted something real.

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01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 4: I can foresee that happening.

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01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 3: But also a lot of people. I'm someone when I

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01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 3: get a gift, I say, I don't need this crap.

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01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 3: Don't give me shit to throw away.

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01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 5: So the charity gift card, the charity gift card disposes

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01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 5: of the social obligation while allowing you to do something

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01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 5: that everyone will think is a good thing to do.

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01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 2: That's a beautiful gift. And now how about a haircut.

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01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 2: Fifty you bring in a barber haircut. It's a decent haircut.

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01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,839
Speaker 2: Some of your coworkers, that may be a worse haircut

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01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 2: for a lot of them. It might be a better haircut.

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01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 2: You bring in and suddenly everyone in the company is

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01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 2: looking brand new. Yeah, and there's also you know, they

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01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 2: see this person setting up, They're like, oh, they got

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01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 2: us massage.

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01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 4: It's great.

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01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 2: And then suddenly everyone is forced to get a fifty

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01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 2: dollars haircut, which is not a bad haircut. Again, that's

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01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 2: more than I'll pay on a haircut, but I'm sure

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01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 2: for a lot of people less than. So you're gonna

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01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 2: have an interesting looking new group of co workers. Some

1585
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 2: will be like, I got the worst haircut of my life.

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01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 2: I fel like I am a new person and it's

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01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 2: going to create a new dynamic within the company that

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01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 2: will make Wellness Month so excited.

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01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 5: I think that's great, and that's much funny than any

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01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 5: of my suggestions.

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01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 2: Well, THEK has gotten so many I mean, from cigarettes

1592
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 2: to charities to haircuts.

1593
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 4: This company is in for the right of its life.

1594
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 3: I think SOK.

1595
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 4: Take that information, do with it what you will.

1596
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 3: I THINKK stands for cookie King.

1597
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 4: Cookie king.

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01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 2: The cookie king is written in his majesty, is trying

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01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,879
Speaker 2: to get his company something. He's been giving away cookies

1600
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 2: and he's finally got to do something else. Cookie King,

1601
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 2: Cookie King, Take the information and enjoy. Adam I now

1602
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: am the owner of an electric bidet. Yeah, I never knew,

1603
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 2: never thought of what happened to me, But here we are.

1604
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 4: I'm a new person.

1605
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,759
Speaker 2: This could really change my life in a variety of ways.

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01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1607
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 4: I've had a wonderful time with you.

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01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 2: It's been so educational, it's been delightful and listener, you've

1609
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 2: had the perfect time. I won't hear anything else about it.

1610
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,799
Speaker 2: You've had such a great time listening to the podcast today.

1611
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to start it out with a little gore,

1612
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 2: but we're all adults, well maybe we're all ages. We're

1613
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 2: all learning, we're all trying, and hopefully my bird story

1614
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 2: will do something for you, and hopefully you can forget

1615
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 2: it and move on with your day and we'll talk

1616
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 2: to you soon. This is the end of the podcast.

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01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 2: I love you, goodbye. I said No Gifts is an

1618
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 2: exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Analise

1619
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 2: Nelson and it's beautifully mixed by John Bradley. The theme song,

1620
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 2: of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Mann.

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01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 2: You must follow the show on Instagram at I said

1622
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 2: No Gifts, I don't want to hear any excuses. That's

1623
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 2: where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous

1624
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 2: gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures

1625
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 2: of the gifts?

1626
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 3: The lie invit? Did you hear?

1627
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 1: Thought a man myself perfectly clear. When you're a guess, Tom,

1628
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 1: you gotta come to me empty, And I said, no guests,

1629
01:11:54,920 --> 01:12:01,719
Speaker 1: your presences, presence in iad you had too much stuff.

1630
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 4: So how do you dare to surbey me?