1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lalli. He is the Matt 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Williamson and Matt it is time to do a little 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: whim to a mock draft this week. So let's go 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: ahead and do that. We're using the Draft Wizard on 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: Fantasy Pros. We've got the fourth overall pick this time. 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: We haven't had that one yet, so we'll go ahead 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: and we'll start the start to mak here and see 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: where we wind up at. Picking out of the four spot. 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: This is kind of where you want to be, right. 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: I think there's seven or eight guys that are distinctly 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: better than the rest. And I'm glad we're here because 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: I almost are certain to get the decision of do 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: we want the second or third best receiver or do 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: we want Bijeon or Breeze? You know what I mean. 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: I'm kind of I'd like to do two of them 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: and take them both and see which one which team 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: we ended up with better, you know, because right? 18 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: No, I hear you? Okay. So the first first pick 19 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: was Christian McCaffrey to Marshall Lawrence Worth every and he 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: took CD LAMB at two. Crowded house. Crowded house. I 21 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: like that one. Took jamar Chase at three. The team 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: picking fifth is no Pain, No Gain. Well, six is 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: Mayor the best man win. Seven is Chenault number five, 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: chuk Week is at eight. That one's always on their discount. 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: Belichick is always on there. That's at nine for whom 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: d Bell tolls is ten. Live in Leaviska Loca. We've 27 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: seen that one before at eleven and a Jackson of 28 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: All Trades is number twelve. So I think I know 29 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: where you might want to go with this one because 30 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill is still sitting there. I know, but. 31 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: That's my question. I mean, he's my number one receiver, 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: but he's not much different than lamber Chase, right, But 33 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: Bijon and Hall are there too. 34 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I understand Tyreek is that I know 35 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to like the. 36 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: Receiver in round two better than the running back in 37 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: round two. That's that's where the conversation starts to me. 38 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I understand that. I think though picking where 39 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: we're at here, like you know, if when we come 40 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: around on you know, with our second round pick, I'm 41 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: looking at you know, is Dereck Henry going to be there? Aossibly? 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: You know, someone like that that that I can use 43 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: as my bell cow. I'm not going to get another 44 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: Tyreek though, No, no. 45 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: I mean Tyreek could be the number one guy in 46 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: the league. Yeah, it's phenomenal. I mean Fantasy points per game. 47 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: I think he was number one. You know a couple 48 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: of games he missed. 49 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: Let's say hit he had three hundred and seventy six 50 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: points last year. Yeah, as good as a mon Ross 51 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: Saint Brown was, and he's great. He had three thirty 52 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: one like Tyreek had forty three, forty forty five more points. 53 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: That's significant. Oh, he's a superstar. 54 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: And again he missed a game or two. 55 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: And he wants he wants a new contract, like he's 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: talking new deal here. So he get the ball out. 57 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: Oh he's I mean, I haven't had a lamb. I mean, 58 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: all right, so. 59 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: Tyreek is the pick. Good. We're rolling down through here, 60 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: and of course the usual suspects are ticking off the 61 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: board here and it's okay. So Pictu right ahead of 62 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: us for DeVante Adams, chrys Olave, Devoni, chan Nico Collins 63 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: at two eight. We're up at two nine. You got 64 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: the top players available, Travis atn Michael Pittman, Josh Allen, 65 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk. Top running backs available, Travis Atn, Kiren Williams, 66 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: Isaiah Pacheco or Shad White. Who else is there? Derrick 67 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: Henry is still there? Who I would go with? Henry? 68 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: The wide receivers available here, you're looking at Pittman, Brandon Ayuk, 69 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: Jalen Waddell, Mike Evans, uh DJ Moore, DK Metcalf. This 70 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: there's a good chance we take we take a running 71 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: back here, we take let's say we take Henry here, 72 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: We're probably gonna get one of those other wide receivers. 73 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I think Henry is a No. I think we 74 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: got a gift that he was still there. To be 75 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: honest with you, Yeah, when you before you said him, 76 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, man at m is my favorite guy. That's 77 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 2: and then he said Henry. And then I sat here 78 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: and I jotted it down. We would then have Henry Hill, 79 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: you know, good. 80 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: Fellows there we call that's what we call our our team. Yeah, 81 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: all right, No, I'm happy with that. Okay, Yeah, so 82 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: that worked out well. I mean that's kind of what 83 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: I was hoping would happen, and it did. We're back 84 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,559 Speaker 1: up here at the pick in the third round. Kiren 85 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: Williams still there, Isaiah Pacheco is still there. Where Sean 86 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: White still there, Alvin Kamar is still there. 87 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: That's not Williams, but boy, he was the second leading 88 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: runner or fantasy guy last year and he's. 89 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: Gonna catch the football like that's that's that. That could 90 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: be a gift if we want to go that way. 91 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: The wide receivers available, you know, the top wide receiver 92 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: available is Jaylen Waddle. We have Hill like we can't 93 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: double down there. DJ Moore is there, DK Metcalf is there, 94 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: Cooper cup Deebo, Samuel Devonte Smith. 95 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 2: They're all good. None of them are making me do jumping. 96 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: Jackson, yeah, Stefan Diggs. The quarterbacks you're looking at, Patrick Mahomes, 97 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Anthony Richardson. Tight end, Sam Laporte is there. 98 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: This is that question we were talking about when we 99 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: talked tight ends earlier in the week. Do you want 100 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: to be the first? You know, do you want to 101 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: take Laporta over Kelsey? 102 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 2: Did Kelsey go? 103 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: No? Kelsey's there? Okay. 104 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: So the way this sets up, I mean, I think, 105 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 2: what's why you do these mock drafts to learn how 106 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: to pivot? And I would have never bet that we 107 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: would be the team to take the first tight end. 108 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: I also thought Tyron Williams would never end up on 109 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: a team because he goes in the second round, and 110 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 2: I think he's more of a you know, early third 111 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 2: round type guy. So right, I mean, I think the 112 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: question is Williams or your choice of tight ends. 113 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you. But I like some of the 114 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: other tight ends. 115 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: I think I like waiting on them as a rule. 116 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too. I think Karen Williams at this point, 117 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: I mean they have him as RB eight here on 118 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: Draft Wizard on Fantasy Pros, are you know, I think 119 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: we'd be pretty solid at running back. Yeah, and we 120 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: got Tyreek Hill. I also understand. Here's here's my one problem. Like, like, 121 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: let's say we take Kelsey, our team would be pretty old. 122 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: I thought that too when we took Henry A few 123 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: names down, Like, these guys are both in the thirty neighborhood. 124 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: Let's I think Williams is the pick. 125 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't have a problem with that. Karen Williams 126 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: is the pick. All right back receivers here after this 127 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: long wait, and I do like having a running back 128 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: who catches the football. After taking Derrick Henry because he's 129 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: not going to catch the football. No, he's not. All right, 130 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: we're back up here now. The top suggestion pick for 131 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: US is Amari Cooper, Patrick Mahomes, T Higgins, Alvin Kamara. 132 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: The top wide receivers available are Murray Cooper, Christian Kirk, 133 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, T. Higgins. I kind of like Kirk there. 134 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: Tight end is kirk mm. I like the court. I mean, 135 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: I think he's the clear number one now in Jacksonville. 136 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: Cooper's not young either, but he's clearly the one too. 137 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: Right, I get it. But at their quarterback situation makes 138 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: me nervous. Dalton is Dalton Kincaid is there. The tight 139 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: ends available are Kincaid, Ingram, Kittle, and Pitts. So there's 140 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: some there's some guys there I would take we might 141 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: be able to get one of those early in the 142 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: next round. Yeah. That wide receivers situation where we have 143 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: two starting running backs, I think this needs to be 144 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: a wide out. Yeah, I do too. 145 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: Kirk's your favorite. I'm cool with it. 146 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: Kirk is my favorite of those guys. Yeah, all right, 147 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: that's cool. Okay. Christian kirktt is at four nine, Okay, 148 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: and let's see what we get here on the turn, 149 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: coming back around, and we're back up here. Okay, so 150 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: the wide receiver is available. T Higgins, George Pickens, Tank Dell, 151 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin. 152 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: To be honest, if I knew Pickens was available last pick, 153 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: I would have taken him a heat of. 154 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the only showing before at a time here. 155 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: But that's fine. Tight ends. You still have Dalton Kincaid there. 156 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: You still have hav An Ingram, George Kittle, cow Pits, 157 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: so that didn't get touched at all. We're good at 158 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: running back. We got our two starters. I mean we can. 159 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: We can back somebody up. Kenneth Walker is there, as 160 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: is Aaron Jones, Joe Mix and Alvin Kamara. 161 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: A couple of guys that didn't expect the fall are 162 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: still there. Walker. 163 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: Guys like that. 164 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh to me, it's Pickens are a tight end, 165 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,479 Speaker 2: and I prefer Pickins. 166 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he. I think I do too. Yeah, 167 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: And that gives us three starting wide receivers. It's a 168 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: pretty good receiving corps. Actually, yeah, they'll be tight ends 169 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: and quarterbacks available. Yeah, okay, Kincaiden pitch just went so 170 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: that kind of stinks. But yeah, we're back up here now. 171 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: The topper players the top seting suggested players for US 172 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: are Joe Burrow, James Conner, Zamir White, DeAndre Swift, top 173 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: tight end available David and Joku, George Kittle, Jake Ferguson, 174 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard. Wide receiver, you're looking at Calvin Ridley, Deontay Johnson, 175 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,119 Speaker 1: Jayden Reed, DeAndre Hopkins. I'm glad we want receiver there. Actually, yeah, 176 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: I think some of those guys will be targeted a lot. 177 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: But running back, you're still looking at James Connor, Zamir White, 178 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift, Jalen Warren. Okay, we still need a quarterback, 179 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: we still need a tight end. Quarterback. He got Burrow, 180 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: Dak Bark Party to Attago Vailoa. 181 00:09:58,679 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 2: To me, Burrow stands out. 182 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels is still there as well. 183 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean we know quarterbacks are, it's deep. I mean, 184 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 2: Burrow's my seventh rank quarterback, and those other guys are 185 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 2: like ten, eleven, twelve ish. 186 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 187 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: I remember, I think we both said last show Boy, 188 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: I don't think I'm gonna own George Kittle anywhere. But 189 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: it's not so bad, not so bad, yeah, player. 190 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: And I know you don't love Jake Ferguson the player. 191 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: I know, but boy gets a lot of opportunities. He's 192 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 1: the number two receiver in Dallas. Now do we think 193 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: we can we can take a quarterback here and then 194 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: sneak one of those tight ends to the next pick. 195 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: In the real world, I would look at the first 196 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: three teams and be like, who picked the tight end 197 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: and who picked a quarterback? 198 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? You know what I mean? 199 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 2: Like, if if three quarterbacks are already spoken for for 200 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: those teams, you wait on quarterback. If a couple tight 201 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: ends are gone, you waited on tight end. 202 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: You know. Well, I can tell you that team Team 203 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: one has not taken a tight end yet, you have 204 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Team two has taken a quarterback. They don't 205 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: haven't taken a tight end. Team three has taken a quarterback. 206 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: They haven't taken a tight end. Does that change your question? 207 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: I think that answers the questions. 208 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: So who do you like there? 209 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 2: I prefer Kiddle to Ferguson. 210 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: I do if we're talking real world players, I understand that. Sure, Sure, 211 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: I think Ferguson ends up with more targets this season 212 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: than George Kittle's I agree. I think Kittle's gonna have 213 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: Kittle's gonna have the monster weeks. Like there's gonna be 214 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: four weeks of the season where Kittle's just a monster. 215 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, There's also gonna be four weeks of the 216 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: season where Kittle does nothing. I know, I know, Whereas 217 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: I think Ferguson is going to be more consistent week 218 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: to week. I agree with all that. 219 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 2: Ferguson's fine. If it were me, I would take Kittle. 220 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: Were you who would take Ferguson. Let's do Ferguson. 221 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm cool with it. Okay. I just think he's I 222 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: think he's I think he's more of a double Yes, 223 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: you know, Kittles. Now, we could also look at our 224 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: team and go, we're pretty loaded. We're gonna We've got 225 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: some some guys who are gonna who have the propensity 226 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: to go off. Mm hm. You know, so they're gonna 227 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: you know, Tyreek Hill can win a week for you 228 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: by himself. Oh yeah, yeah, Derek Henry can win a 229 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: week for you by himself. Yeah. Okay, So the quarterback 230 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: position was not touched. Do we take Joe Burrow here? 231 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: I would, Yeah, Joe Burrow is to pick there, Yeah, 232 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: I mean, our start starting lineup is filled out here, 233 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: and I mean, honestly, at this point, it's it's it 234 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: looks pretty good. You're looking at Burrow, Henry Kyra Williams, 235 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: Tyreek Kill, Christian Kirk, George Pickens, Jake Ferguson, and guess what, 236 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: Matt George Kittle's still there. 237 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd much rather go get a Jalen Warren. 238 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: Or Okay running backs available, Nick Schubb, Ezekiel Elliott, Gus 239 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: Gus Edwards, zach Arvina Yuck, Yuck yuck, Chase Brown, Yeah, Antonio, 240 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson, Juba Hubbard, Kendre Miller. Uh, he's probably one. 241 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: I like the most of that group thus far, Blake Korum. 242 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: You're hoping for, well, I mean we do have backup, Yeah, 243 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: he would be our backup there. At wide receiver, you're 244 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: looking at reivers and Jayden Reid, DeAndre Hopkins, Jordan Addison, 245 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: Cortland Sutton. I like those that grew better me too. 246 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: I mean I would mind DeAndre Hopkins as our fourth receiver. 247 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind Jayden Reid is my fourth receiver. 248 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 2: That whole group is pretty strong. Yeah, and one of 249 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: the backs will be there. I mean, I can't imagine 250 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 2: Kuorum goes next. 251 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: No, I don't think so either. Tyler Lockett still there, 252 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: Christian Watson's still there, so he could you could you know, 253 00:13:58,559 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: roll the dice and who do you think is gonna 254 00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: be the number one? Lad McConkie is still there. I 255 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: think we grab someone from that group. Yeah, I agree? 256 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: Which one of those do you like the best? I'm 257 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: trying to think all the names views, Jayden Read, DeAndre Hoppins, 258 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: Jordan Addison, Lad McConkie, Christian Watson, Tyler Lockett, Courtland Sutton. 259 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: It's funny. I just pulled up my list. 260 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: I have Hopkins thirty eight, Watson thirty nine, Read forty 261 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: and Maconkie forty one, Addison forty two five, and are 262 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: in Sutton forty four. Like they're all right there. So really, 263 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: I do not have a strong feeling at all of 264 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: one over the others. 265 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just don't love DeAndre Hopkins quarterback situation. 266 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: He's also old. Yeah, Jayden Reid to me, I kind 267 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: of like in that spot. I mean I just do. 268 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: I just like the player and I think he's in 269 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: a great situation. Do it. 270 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: I'm totally in on him. 271 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: Okay, he is the picking in round eight that gives 272 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: us four receivers. Now that I like all four of 273 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: them a lot. Okay, went back Miller is still out there, 274 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: and I bet you so. The running backs doesn't look 275 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: like a chuch Nick Chubb, Gus Edwards, Chase Brown, Zax Charbonnet, 276 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson, Chuba Hubbard. I gotta roll down a little 277 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: bit here for Kendrey Miller. 278 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: Kendrey Miller, do we want him over quorum though? 279 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: That's the question. Like Blake Korum is still there. We 280 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: can we can scoop up Blake Orm. We're safe. Then 281 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: with Karen. 282 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: Williams game, I think I won Korum here. 283 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: Okay, well he's the pick. He's a cake. Yeah, boy, 284 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: the running backs in this neighborhood are tough. That's really 285 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: really it is. 286 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: Might be then the lesson of this might be draft 287 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 2: your third running back before you fill out your starting lineup. 288 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some guys here now, Like if I had 289 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: scrolled down a little bit farther here at the running 290 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: back position, guys still left on the on the board here. 291 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson, Cuba Hubbard, Chilian McLaughlin Rico dal Dell is there. 292 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: M I think he's going to have some value. Marshawn Lloyd. 293 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: I don't like Chandler. I like Lloyd and Chandler. Yeah, 294 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: I think those guys in Tyler Algier not bad. 295 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: Those guys aren't horrible. 296 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: No, that's not That's not bad at all. 297 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: One night note I want to throw out there. But 298 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: by the time you we really draft a better information 299 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: on this, Cuba Hubbard might be the omping they starter. 300 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's available. So who you like? 301 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: Ty Chandler? 302 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: I mean I think ty Chandler is going to have 303 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: a role, Yeah, just like I think dal Dell's going 304 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: to have a role. 305 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: I think he'll have a bigger role than Chandler. I 306 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: think Chandler's better. 307 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: I do too, But that Dallas offense wouldn't mind having 308 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: a piece of that. And you know, how long is it? 309 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: What's it? What's Zeke to do this year? Not much? 310 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: I don't think. Yeah, like dald Dell has no competition 311 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: there to be to get two hundred plus touches. No, 312 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: I think he will be in that neighborhood in a 313 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: very good offense. I think they're the team. 314 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 2: Most likely to trade for a running back if they 315 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 2: were to you know, of any team out there. 316 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: But as we said here on July July twelfth, I'll 317 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: check that stuff. Yeah. 318 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: I bet Jerry Jones has Elliott scoring touchdowns from the 319 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 2: one yard line. 320 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: That's fine. I think Dallad Dell is going to be 321 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: the pass catcher though. Yeah. 322 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 2: I think he's exactly what you said. I mean, I 323 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: think he's in line for two hundred touches. 324 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, good offer. Yeah, let's grab him for that. Let's 325 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: take him. Yeah, I mean we're looking at our tenth 326 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: round draft pick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. George Kittle finally just 327 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: went by, by the way, the eleventh round. Wow, how 328 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: crazy he's at wide. 329 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: Receivers available earlier than usual two just with his injury history. 330 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, the wide receivers available Brandon Cook's, Josh Downs, Romeo 331 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: Dobbs or Sheets she Heed, Jerry Judy, Adam Thielen. Our 332 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: top suggested pick right now is two Attago by Loa, 333 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks, Dallas Godter, Chuba Hubbard. 334 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: Who are thrown a Tyreeks? 335 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: Kind of nice? Yeah, I mean if something happened to Burrow, 336 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: that wouldn't be bad at all. 337 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: There might even be a week or two, we pick 338 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 2: them over Burrow. 339 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, in the right matchup. Can we think it's gonna 340 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: be a shootout? 341 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? Good weather in Miami, all that you want to 342 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 2: go there in around eleven? Yeah, I don't love trusting 343 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 2: Burrow for seventeen games. 344 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: No, I don't either, because he hasn't finished the last 345 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: couple of seasons. That's our eleventh round draft pick. We're 346 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: running around here to around twelve, and we still have 347 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: a couple of bench spots open. We still have our 348 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: defensive special teams here. We haven't taken a backup tight 349 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: End yet. Rock Bouers available, t J. Hawkinson available, Pat 350 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: fairm we have available a Dallton Schultz available. 351 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: I was about to ask, is still there? Yeah, I 352 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:00,120 Speaker 2: think I'm. 353 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: Cool with that, Okay, Pat Farmouth is the pick that's 354 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: I don't I don't dislike the fact that we waited 355 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: on tight end, and I think we got two good 356 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: ones that will make it work. 357 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. We end up with pickings and fire. 358 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well we got a big chunk of the farm 359 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: is not a starter for us. But uh, okay, so 360 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: we we still need a defense, We still need a kicker. 361 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: We still have a bench spot to open here. Pop 362 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: suggested players house is Jerry Judy, Adam Thielend, JK. Dobbins. 363 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: I don't love any of that. Johan Dowson is there, 364 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: Kolif Shake he is there. 365 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: Oh, I have to take your care over those. 366 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think khalifsha here is the pick. Yeah, a 367 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: good one. And now we got to take our defense 368 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: and our special team, our defense and our kicker. I 369 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: should say which is I guess special teams? Okay, defense 370 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: is available. Kansas City, Miami, Houston, Philadelphia, New Orleans, Indianapolis, 371 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: U Minnesota, Detroit, Chicago. I think Kansas City stands out there. 372 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: They're definitely my highest ranked one. 373 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kansas City Chiefs defense it is. And we're looking 374 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: for a kicker and our kicker choices we had Jason Sanders. 375 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: We'll be highly invested in that. Miami offense, Tyler Bass 376 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: and Buffalo, Jake Elliott and Philadelphia, Jake Moody and San Francisco. 377 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: Those are all good choices. 378 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say any of those are cool with me. 379 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: Let's take Jason Sanders because well, why not finish off? 380 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: We started with the Miami Dolphin. We finished with the 381 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphin. That gave us a grade of seven points 382 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: seventy five out of one hundred. They didn't love that lineup, 383 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: so we end up with Joe Burrow at quarterback, Derrick 384 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: Henry and Kira Williams is our starting running backs, Tyreek Kill, 385 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, George Pickens at wide receiver, Jake Ferguson at 386 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: tight end. The Kansas City Chiefs defense Jason Sanders is 387 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: our kicker. On the bench, we got Jayden, Reid, Blake 388 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: quoram Rico Daldell, to Attago vloa Pat Friarmouth, Khalil Shakir. 389 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: I like our wide receiver depth. Our running back depth 390 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: is a little yeah, worrisome. Maybe we could move to 391 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: at some point if he is also a hot start that, 392 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: you know, maybe for a running back with you know, 393 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: maybe a flip a you know, Kyra Williams and and 394 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: and uh to Attago Vlo for an upgraded running back. 395 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. 396 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: I don't hate that team. 397 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 2: I don't hate the team. I mean, my my worries 398 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 2: are considering how we build it. What if Henry looks 399 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: old right out of the bat, you know, like, yeah, 400 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: two rams were counting on and we need then the 401 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 2: whole whole league will know we need running backs. 402 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, the running back it dried up quickly. 403 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: I don't know how to handle it yet this year. 404 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: You know, like I liked Tyreek better than Bijeon, And 405 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: after round two when Henry fell to us, I almost said, 406 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: I definitely like Hill and Henry better than Bijeon and 407 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: any receiver we got there. 408 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, there were only two teams in this draft that 409 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: went running back running back. That was a team at 410 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: one one they took McCaffrey and Travis ATN. I don't 411 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: love Travis ATN. And then the team on the turn 412 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: at twelve at twelve and it took Jamiir Gibbs and 413 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. 414 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 2: Well, okay, yeah, yeah, I'm just curious, what do the 415 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 2: teams look like that took? Bijon and Hall were their 416 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: first couple picks. 417 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: Bjean Chris, Olave, Deebo, Samuel Stefon, Diggs, Dalton k and K, Kyler, Murray, 418 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: Nausea Harris. Then they followed up with Devin Singletary okay, 419 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: and then Brees Hall was Bres Hall, DeVante Adams, Sam Laporta, 420 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: Rashad White, t Higgins, Jordan Love Hollywood Brown, Austin Ekeler, 421 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: Roman dunje A, Zach Charbonney. Nobody has any running back death. 422 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. Was not enough to go around. Yeah, okay, 423 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 2: I wouldn't trade our team for either one of those. 424 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and those teams were at five and six. 425 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 2: So I wonder when it comes when you know, when 426 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: it hits the fan finally? Is this the year you 427 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: draft a running back in the first two rounds and 428 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: then you take like fifth and sixth round Yeah, just 429 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 2: you're the team that everybody calls for the running back. 430 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to get their break. That's going to 431 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: do it for the Fantasy Football focus. He is Matt Williamson. 432 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on 433 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after this. 434 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly. He 435 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson, and the Matt Williamson, I should say, 436 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: And Matt, we went over the outside linebacker edge rusher 437 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: rankings the other day on from ESPN. They did safeties 438 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,239 Speaker 1: today or yesterday, I should say, and well, let's take 439 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: a look at those safety rankings because I think there's 440 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: a Steeler that should factor reasonably well in the safety 441 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: rankings here, so we'll see where where he comes in 442 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: at the He's of course done by Jeremy Fowler, cours 443 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: friend of the show guys who received votes. They also 444 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: receiving votes, Grant Delpit with the Browns, Trevor Mohering with 445 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: the Raiders, Effetti Malafwanu with the Lions, Jakwan Brisker with 446 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: the Bears, Donovan Wilson with the Cowboys, Alloy Gilman with 447 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: the Chargers, Gino Stone with the Bengals. Really and Jabil 448 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: Peppers with the Patriots. The guys with that group, no, 449 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: not at all. I mean, yeah, yeah, or one the either. 450 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: I think Peppers has really turned his career around. But 451 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 2: the rest of those dudes are all right. 452 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, looking at the guys who got honorable mentions, he 453 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: got Andre Cisco with the Jaguars, Brian Branch with the Lions. Yeah, 454 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: we both were big fans. CJ. Gardner Johnson with the Eagles, okay, 455 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: Marcus Williams with the Ravens, Justin Reed with the Chiefs, 456 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: Jalen P. Tray with the Texans, and Justin Simmons who 457 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: is silly free agent Okay. 458 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: I think that's a pretty solid group. I mean, I 459 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: think p Tray is a nice improving player. No know 460 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: what to quite make out of Simmons at this point, 461 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 2: Williams is that deep middle guy Branch and Gardner Johnson 462 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 2: or as much slock corners. 463 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: That's I was going to say, like they're not really 464 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: even safety that they haven't asked beside their name. Yeah, 465 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 1: they're really slock cornerbacks. 466 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you don't see them in single hi ever, 467 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: you know, no no defensive backs. 468 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Looking now at the top ten, number ten, his 469 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: highest ranking was four. His lowest ranking unranked. He was 470 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: unranked last year. Xavier McKinney with the Packers. 471 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: Four four or seems pretty rich. I don't know problem 472 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: with top ten. 473 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: I think, oh yeah, I don't have a problem with 474 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: him being at ten, but the fact that somebody voted 475 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: him for and he came in at ten, eh, right, right, right, And. 476 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 2: When we get there, it's obvious there's four safeties better 477 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 2: than Xavier McKinney. 478 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, uh Number nine Telenoah Huffnega with 479 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers last year. His highest ranking again four, 480 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: lowest ranking unranked last year he was number nine. He 481 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: tours ACL and it in November. 482 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't play the whole year at all. Yeah, like, 483 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: and he missed the defense noticeably was without him. Again, 484 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: I don't know a problem ranking him. I mean, he 485 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: was an impact player he's but again somebody ranked him four. 486 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah that's crazy too. 487 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I guess he has Paula Malu ties 488 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 2: and patterns his game after Troy and you can see 489 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: that not just because they're both Polynesian and the way 490 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: they look, but the way they fly around the field. 491 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 2: He's loved with the Niners, but he's also a lot 492 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: better near the lion of s crimate. 493 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaking of which, Number eight his highest ranking, Number 494 00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: one his lowest ranking unranked. He was an honorable mention 495 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: last year. That's Kyle Duggar with the Patriots. Number one. 496 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 2: One's pretty crazy. I mean this was a small school 497 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 2: guy that tested like crazy. That Belichick has do a 498 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: ton of different stuff ascending but. 499 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: One come on now, Yeah, one seems a little rich. 500 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: Number seven his highest ranking is for his lowest ranking unranked. 501 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: Last year he was number two, and he is Derwin James. 502 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: It's time to look yourself in the mirror and get 503 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: your career back on track, because I mean, nobody was 504 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 2: gifted with more ability on this list than Derwin James. 505 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: And he's a freak. I saw him with the the 506 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years ago at the Pro Bowl, 507 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: and I'm like, Wow, that's a big dude. 508 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: But from what I understand, the Hardbaugh crew is going 509 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 2: to try to make him like they're Kyle Hamilton. 510 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: You know, and maybe that is the I think he's 511 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: better in the box. 512 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: I do too, I do too, But maybe that's the 513 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: revitalization that we'll you know, jump start his career. 514 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: But he needs it. Yeah. The first thing that Fella 515 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: wrote about this, James was as far back as number 516 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: nine before a few late votes pushed him into the 517 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: top seven. 518 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: Okay, and last year he was considered right there with Minkos, 519 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: like a top two type guy. 520 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: He was number two last year. Yeah, yeah, number six 521 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: on this list, highest ranking, three, lowest ranking unranked. Last 522 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: year he was number three. That's Buddha Baker. 523 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 2: He's a tough one to rank for me, just because 524 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 2: really this last year or two in Arizona, he's almost 525 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: like the only name you know on the defense, you 526 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: know what I mean? And he's a big time leader, tough, 527 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: They've given him money, they use him a lot of 528 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 2: different way. 529 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: Like if he was Steeler. People with to dore this guy. 530 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: I love the player. 531 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's just not much around him. 532 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, really aren't it isn't number five, highest ranking, number one, 533 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: lowest ranking, number nine. Last year ranking he was fifth 534 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: as well. That's Jewan Hollan with the Dolphins. Again, I 535 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: love the player, number one, were number nine. 536 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: He's another one's really coming into his own. But again 537 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: I can't imagine putting him at one. 538 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, not with some of the other guys that are 539 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: in the league. 540 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: No, I mean, I feel like these I have a 541 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 2: pretty strong idea who these top four are going to be, 542 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: and to me, they're pretty clearly the top four. 543 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: They stand alone, kind of like the edge Rusher rankings, 544 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: Like yeah, there was four or five of them, you know, right, Yeah, 545 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: and then there's I think there's a you know, a 546 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: tier there. 547 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: M I agree, and Derwin should be in this group, 548 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: but he doesn't. 549 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: Glad he hasn't played like it. Yeah, number four. His 550 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: highest ranking was number one, his lowest ranking number seven. 551 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: Last year's ranking he was number one. That's mega Fitzpatrick. 552 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: This is coming off of season when he had no 553 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: interceptions and no takeaways. Kind of shows you you know 554 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: how much respect he gets round the league. 555 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: He's still getting first place votes and I like that 556 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: his lowest ranking was only seven, and I think that 557 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: was the respect of what he can do. And I 558 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: remember reading the write up saying they basically said he 559 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: had to I forget the term we were using before 560 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: I was. I used to call him the uh the firefighter, 561 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: I mean fire that was going on the defense. He 562 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: went and put it out and it's just hard to 563 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 2: produce that way. 564 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: And as they noted here, the one AFC scout said, 565 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: he wasn't his best year, but it was still instinctive 566 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: and tough as the playmaking knack, just not to quite 567 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: quite the same opportunities as last as last year, like 568 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: there weren't a lot of opportunities there for him to 569 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: get his hands on the ball. No, not only what 570 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: the Steelers had him doing. 571 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: I think in the changes this year, I agree, And 572 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: now that we have a lot of this like target 573 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: data and things, he's always at the top or bottom 574 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 2: of the league in terms of passes even thrown his way. 575 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, teams identify where he is at, and they don't 576 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: throw his way. No, they which is which is why 577 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: you want him, you know, either in the deep post 578 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: or playing that robber spot and just let him watch 579 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback and take the ball away. 580 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and say, if you're not gonna throw in this direction, 581 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: well we can roll everything away from him, you know. 582 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Number three, his highest ranking was number one. Is 583 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: lowest ranking number six. Last year his ranking was number six, 584 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: And that's Jesse Bates. 585 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: True centerfielder, does take the ball away, leads the whole defense. 586 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: I actually thought Atlanta might have overspent in free agency 587 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 2: last year. I'm like, oh, he's a good player, but 588 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: that's an awful lot and I think he was even 589 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: better in Atlanta than he was with Cincinnati. 590 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's really the only name player on that 591 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: Atlanta defense that you look at and go, Okay, he's 592 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: a good player, Like and Terrell's a cornerback. And that's 593 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: so that fluctuates so much. It's like, eh, you know, 594 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: are you are you really scared of Terrell? 595 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say scared, but they're going to line up 596 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 2: against each other in Week one too. 597 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Number two, his highest ranking was number one, his 598 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: lowest ranking, number six. Last year he was unranked, and 599 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: that is Coyle Hamilton love him. 600 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: I mean, he was a rare player coming out of 601 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 2: Notre Dame. He didn't run great at the combine and 602 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 2: he's a safety. That's why I fell in the middle rounds. 603 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: But he's six four and he could do everything, kind 604 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 2: of like James. The opposite is we talked about this 605 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: like an hour ago. All that defensive coaching changes. I 606 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: hope they don't mess with what they did with Hamilton. 607 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and then number one. His highest ranking was 608 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: number one, his lowest ranking, number seven seven. Last year 609 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: he was number ten. That's Antoine Winfield. It is called 610 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: ranked Antoine Winfield number seven right, someone. 611 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 2: That hasn't watched him much lately. He's the highest paid 612 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 2: defensive back ever. I mean, and even though he's a safety, 613 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 2: he can do corner stuff. He learned a lot from Daddy. Now, 614 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: this is no respect, disrespect at all to Antoine Winfield. 615 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 2: I think he's great. He might even got my for 616 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 2: best safety, but I don't know that most years he's 617 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 2: the best safety on the planet, you know what I mean. 618 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: Like he's a really really good player. 619 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: But I think if Minca has two or three interceptions, 620 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: and you know, a typical make it like he's number one. 621 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: Again, right, like Winfield's not Troy or ed you know 622 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 2: what I mean. Yeah, yeah, I mean when there's an 623 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 2: elite safety in the league that's no brain or. 624 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer type. Yeah. So that's where we're at 625 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: with the safeties. That was a Jeremy Fowler's list of 626 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: the top safeties in the NFL. We're gonna take another break. 627 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: We'll be back with more. He is the Matt Williamson. 628 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lalla. You're listening to the drive here on 629 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Hey Steeler Fans, you can gear up 630 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: with the latest sideline apparel, hats or jerseys of your 631 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: favorite players, authentic memorabilia, custom items, and exclusives you can 632 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: only find directly from the team at one of the 633 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: official Steelers pro shops. They're located at Akersher Stadium, Grove City, Premium, 634 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: Mount Let's, or Tanger Outlets, or you can visit online 635 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: at shops Whelers dot com. He is the Matt Williamson. 636 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly and uh well, Matt uh just uh 637 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: late last night, Monte Kiffin died. Ah so yeah, that's 638 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 1: you know, he's a guy that h eighty four years old. 639 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: You know, he was working as an assistant at Old 640 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: Miss with his son Lane Kiffen. Okay, is this is 641 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: a guy that that did a lot of stuff in 642 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: the NFL. 643 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: I think he I mean, he's known for those Tampa 644 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: who covered two defenses when that swept the planet. I 645 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 2: don't know if he created it, you know, I. 646 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: Mean no, because honestly, it was a Steelers defense in 647 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: the seventies. 648 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: I'm talking more than Tampa two when they were okay, 649 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 2: you know Brooks or or Lacker and run them down 650 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: that middle pipe too. But no, I mean, I know 651 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 2: he didn't carry Cover two. It's always a weird thing 652 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 2: with me with coaches like who actually invented things. A 653 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 2: lot of people who stole stuff or tweeted it or whatever, Yeah, 654 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 2: put their own touch on it. 655 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 656 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 2: But he's kind of a legend. I mean, I think 657 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 2: he's a Lebau like defensive coordinator legend. 658 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the I mean, this is the guy that 659 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin cut his teeth under a little you know, 660 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: to a goo good degree if you look at it. 661 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 1: During at Kiffin's thirteen seasons in Tampa Bay, the defense 662 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: allowed the fewest points per game over those thirteen seasons, 663 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: seventeen and a half, while ranking second in both yards 664 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: allowed to eighty six point eight in total takeaways to 665 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: ninety three. Now that I'm reading this off of ESPN, 666 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: they don't say who the number one team was in 667 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: the terms of your yards allowed and total takeaways. I'm 668 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 1: betting the Steelers were right there with those teams. That 669 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: defense was really good. You know, when when Kiffin was 670 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: there kind of rivaling when when you started looking at 671 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: the top defenses in the league during the two thousands, 672 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: it was it was Pittsburgh and it was Tampa Bay. 673 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was Sap and Simeon, Rice and 674 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 2: Brooks and Lynch and Barber. I mean, all those guys 675 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 2: are on Hall of Fame ballots or in or you know. 676 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 2: I mean they're big time dudes. And you know, Lynch 677 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 2: goes on to be a GM and they actually pulled 678 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 2: up you know, Kiffin's Wikipedia page. I didn't realize he 679 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 2: ever played, but he played one year with the Vikings. 680 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 2: He was a Winnipeg Blue bomber for a year. He 681 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 2: was a Toronto rifle for a year. And a Brooklyn 682 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 2: Dodger for a year. Nice baseball or if that was 683 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 2: a football thing back then. Yeah, And then he's been 684 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 2: coaching since nineteen sixty six and there's just way too 685 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: many teams and stuff on his resume to even get 686 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 2: into it. 687 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: Really. I mean, when you when you talk about kind 688 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: of some of the storied defensive coordinators of the last 689 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: he's four decades, he's right there with Dick Lebo. 690 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jim Johnson with the Eagles comes to mind. Yeah, 691 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 2: I think Spags is making that name for himself with 692 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 2: Kansas City. You know, I mean guys that maybe flirted 693 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 2: with some head stuff here and there, but really are 694 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 2: gonna be known and our elite defensive coordinators And I 695 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 2: almost think there should be a different wing in the 696 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 2: NFL in the Hall of Fame for those type of guys. 697 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: You know, like they were huge contributors to the game, 698 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: huge contributors to the game. 699 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 2: I mean, Lebow got in because he's a player, But 700 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 2: what you've got in just as a coach that those 701 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 2: guys don't really go. 702 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Earlier in the show, Matt, we talked about the 703 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: top safeties in the league, and well, we want a 704 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: guy who maybe used to make that list. Signed with 705 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:35,959 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. They had Jamal Adams and they don't 706 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: know about that move. They got a money hooker and 707 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: Elijah Moulden. Jamal Adams is Jamal Adams is going to 708 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: be happy taking a back seat. I don't think he's 709 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: better than a money hooker. Elijah Molden and. 710 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 2: Those guys aren't great. I mean, right, he's out there 711 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 2: because he gets picked on. I mean, frankly, he played 712 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 2: like a linebacker and not a great coverage linebacker. He's 713 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 2: a good blitzer. He's a good pass rusher. And we 714 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 2: brought this up earlier in the show. The new defensive 715 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: coordinator for the Titans is a former D D backs 716 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 2: coach from the Ravens. I hope they're not going to 717 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 2: think he's Kyle Hamilton for them, you know, I mean 718 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 2: I think over his head, maybe he's They're they're looking 719 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 2: for that type of safety, you know, the bigger safety 720 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 2: that can line up in the box, but tight ends 721 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 2: beat up on him. Frankly, this goes down. 722 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: He's not going to help him with that. No, no, 723 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: he's not. 724 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 2: He's a run guy and a blitzer that's too small 725 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 2: to live that way. I don't know. I think it's 726 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 2: it doesn't shock me that he's in the league still, 727 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 2: but I don't think he's close to what anyone thought 728 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 2: he would be. And frankly, it goes down is one 729 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,879 Speaker 2: of the worst trades in recent number. 730 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: God, yeah, they get two first round draft picks to 731 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: get him and he yuck. 732 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 2: I forget the GM of the Jets Douglas, but he 733 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 2: couldn't move Adams fast enough when he got hired. And 734 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 2: for Yeah, Justin Simmons are still out there. Yeah, do 735 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 2: you think that's his money? 736 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 1: It has to be. It has to be. 737 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 2: You know, we had this conversation earlier in the week 738 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 2: that there's a lot of d bacs. Patrick Peterson was 739 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 2: talking about it that are still available, and we you know, 740 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 2: we kind of thought special teams might be a sticking point, 741 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 2: but Simmons is too good for that. 742 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, money, money has to be a factor that he's 743 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 1: waiting for an injury that somebody has says, oh boy, 744 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: we gotta make it. We got to make a deal 745 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: with a big splash here because our star safety just 746 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 1: got hurt. 747 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm guessing that's the case, or he just flat 748 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 2: out overvalues himself. You know, he thinks I'm not going 749 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 2: to take that low money or which I mean. 750 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: I get Guy's been an all pro, right, I don't 751 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: know that he's still that, but he's still pretty good. 752 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: He was just on the honorable mention of the other 753 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: the safety list. He probably didn't miss the top ten 754 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: by much. No. 755 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 2: I mean, he's still six ' three and can do 756 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 2: a ton of stuff. And I wouldn't even say he's declining. 757 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 2: I mean, he's not phenomenal, but he's still really, really good. Frankly, 758 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,439 Speaker 2: I think if you I signed in free agency, would 759 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 2: have been in that top ten. You know, if he'd 760 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 2: already had a team. It probably hard to vote for him. 761 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: Now without a team, Yeah, not knowing where he's at. 762 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I also wonder does he have a deal 763 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 2: in place, a handshake type deal with a team, and just. 764 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: Say half way through, once you halfway through training camp, 765 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna come in, I'll play and I'll be fine. 766 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,919 Speaker 2: We'll be all right. Yeah, call me in a couple 767 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 2: of weeks after you know, everything cools down. I know 768 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 2: the defense will be okay. 769 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 770 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 2: Room for the Steelers, I know they don't need him 771 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 2: at all. 772 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: They don't. I wouldn't hate it. I mean I wouldn't 773 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: hate it for any team. No, I mean he'd make 774 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 1: you a better football team. There's no offense or busts 775 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: about it. 776 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the big nickel package you can put 777 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 2: out there we talked about earlier. All teams have attacked 778 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 2: the middle of the field. I don't think they'll be 779 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 2: doing that anymore. 780 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. What I don't want to see is like him 781 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: wind up a raven. 782 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 2: I know it does seem like a raven type move. 783 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 2: I think the Bengals are done. I don't think the 784 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 2: Browns would have a use for him, but they could 785 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 2: be like, well off to you know Stone, maybe with 786 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 2: the Simmons guy work. 787 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would that would be a very Ravens like 788 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: move that Yeah, this time of year, because they do 789 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: like to play those three three safeties package, and that 790 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: would give them we talked about they lost they lost 791 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: more safety than they added. Yeah, so maybe that that. 792 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 2: I hadn't thought of that, but it sure adds up. 793 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: And I don't want to Yeah, Matt, that's going to 794 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: do it for the show today. Cool. It was fun. Yeah, 795 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: that was a good one. Lots of fun and of 796 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: course we'll be back next week Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and 797 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: then the next week after that we're looking at training camp. Yes, absolutely, so, 798 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: you know, we we basically have four shows left before 799 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,399 Speaker 1: we had the training camp, and then once we get 800 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: the camp, boys, we're every day that the Steelers practice, 801 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: we are on the air, and we'll be on the 802 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: air from one to four. Of course you can hear, yeah, 803 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: you can hear all the great shows that we'll have 804 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: on the Steelers Nation Radio. Tell your friends, tell your 805 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: loved ones, tell everybody the Steelers National Radios. Yeah, stop 806 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: up and see us if you're there. We enjoy that 807 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: as well. 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