1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: A podcast playground. Welcome to this edition of Taking a 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: Walk Music History on Foot. If you like this podcast, 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: please share it with someone who needs to hear it. Kindly. 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: Go to Taking a Walk dot com to sign up 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: for the newsletter, to keep up on new episodes, and 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: to suggest someone as a guest for an upcoming episode. 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: Maybe it's even you. Today, we're virtual with a Nashville 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: band that defies categorization, Cadillac three. Their influences span multiple genres, 9 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: from country to rock, to funk to grunge, all mixed 10 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: in a delectable suit that everyone can enjoy. Let's go 11 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: deep into the career path of Cadillac three on Taking 12 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: a Walk. I'd like to introduce the members of Cadillac three, 13 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: or in this case, Cadillac two to Take a Walk. 14 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: Drummer Neil Mason and guitarists Kilby Ray. Welcome, Thanks for 15 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: having us. Thanks man. So, guys, can you take our 16 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: listeners back to the beginning moments when you guys met 17 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: growing up in Nashville. As the story goes, we met 18 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: and we all came out of the same womb, just 19 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: with long hair, and it was it was quite a 20 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: wonderful day. But we've been for ins since high school. 21 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I've I first met Neil, I 22 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: feel like before Jaren even Jared and I went to 23 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: the same high school. Neil was at a rival high 24 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: school just on the other side of town, but we 25 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: had a lot of mutual friends, and you know, just 26 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: met through playing music like you do in high school 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: with some of the first bands that you start when 28 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: you're fifteen, you know, a garage band, you know, literally 29 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: in the garage or in the basement of your parents' house, 30 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: trying to you know, just trying to make noise. And 31 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: it's really we've we've come a long way from the 32 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: from there and managed to stay really close and yeah, 33 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: just happy to still be friends and still jamming. My 34 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: my biggest recollection of meeting Kelby was where I remember 35 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: seeing him for the first time. I don't know if 36 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: we met this day or not, but I remember being 37 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: at this little pizzeria that my band used to play 38 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: at called Guidos, and Kelby was a pretty memorable guy 39 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: at fourteen years old because he had a giant afro 40 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: and he was wearing a Jimmy Hendrick's T shirt that 41 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: I kind of want to say went down to like 42 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: his knees or something, and that was Kelby, And so 43 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: you know, you don't kind of forget that, especially if 44 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: you spend the next twenty five years hanging out with him. 45 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: So that's my recollection of meeting Kelby, just a bunch 46 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: of hippie and being kids. Do you guys remember the 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: first time you played music? I was probably I'm guessing 48 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: it was probably in my mom's basement or in somebody 49 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: else's garage or basement. But being the drummer, my mom 50 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: was understanding that people were probably going to be coming 51 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: over in and a lot, and that saved her trips 52 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: of having to carry my drums to other places. So 53 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: we did a lot of jam and and in my 54 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: basement and garages and sorted other rooms that as we 55 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: moved around houses. But I'm guessing that it can't be 56 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: any different recollection. Yeah, no, I mean it's all fuzzy, 57 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: but that sounds that sounds right, fuzzy and fuzz tones 58 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: right there you go. Yeah, you know, you guys are 59 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: embedded with this incredible sense of authenticity and what you 60 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: what you do with your your craft. Where do you 61 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: get that spirit from? We're just all it's just that 62 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: common denominator of just loving music. I don't know. It's 63 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: a deep question, but an easy answer, I guess. I 64 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, and I think it. I think it 65 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: stems back to the same answer to the question before, 66 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: which is I think it comes from the fact that 67 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: we all kind of grew up together at the same time, 68 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: in the same place, experience a lot of the same 69 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: things together, you know, and so it's like a lot 70 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: of first you know, first first time seeing a band play, 71 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: first time playing a certain show, first time going to 72 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: a club, first time, you know, doing stuff at a 73 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: party that you shouldn't be doing, all that kind of stuff, 74 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: you know. And so we've been able to experience all 75 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: of that stuff together and continue to all the way. 76 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: You know. Now we're forty years old and we've been 77 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: doing this for twenty five years of hanging out basically, 78 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: you know, And I guess if you hang out long enough, 79 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: some good things are bound to happen. I mean, there's 80 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: a patience that has to be there, right that with 81 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: a relationship with you know, your craft, right, there's there's 82 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: a patience, there's a you know, there's a genuine love 83 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: of just of playing music and being able to do 84 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: that with the same like minded people. That's the only 85 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: way to keep this kind of thing going long term. 86 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, because there's a lot of friends 87 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: of ours that that we used to jam with in 88 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: the garages and back in the day, and they might have, 89 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: you know, tried to go on the road, try to 90 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: do the band thing, and you know, the right kind 91 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: of the wrong combination of people happened and it just 92 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: doesn't have the longevity. So we just kind of looked 93 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: out that, you know, we all have the drive and 94 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: the motivation and the love of doing it and are 95 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: close enough friends to be able to do something like 96 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: this for so many years. I think was the is 97 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: the key there. I saw another interview with you guys. 98 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it was either of you who 99 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: said this or Jared, but you said not chasing something, 100 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: trying to create something, which I thought was really a 101 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: brilliant way to sort of bring home the authenticity piece. Yeah. 102 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean carving your own path, you know, 103 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: doing your own thing, you know, being true to just 104 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: who you are, what you the influences you have, and 105 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: the type of music you'd like to do, and just 106 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: genuinely being yourself. That's the that's the goal there, that's 107 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: the that's the key ingredient. And also just not you know, 108 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: we all have influences, we're all influenced by a number 109 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: of things, but like Kelby said, trying to be authentic 110 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: to all of them within ourselves to create something that's 111 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: kind of new and fresh. You know, I think it's 112 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: not it's not fun to just see the exact same 113 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: thing again. You know. You want to you want to 114 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: stand out in some way. You know. One of our 115 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: other mantras has kind of always just been like make 116 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: people kind of love us or hate us, Like the 117 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: middle is boring, and so try not to sit in 118 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: the middle as much as as possible, you know, And 119 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: because there's enough, there's enough bands out there for for everybody, 120 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: and not everybody has to love you, but it's good 121 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: to find your audience that really, really really loves you 122 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: and then let the other people go find somebody else 123 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: to love. You know, there's this sector of the Nashville 124 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: music community filled with this outlaw spirit which you guys have, 125 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: who are some of the folks in your posse and 126 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: define outlaw spirit from your standpoint, outlaw spirit is just 127 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: doing things your own way, you know. I don't think, 128 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, we don't necessarily do things the exact same 129 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: way that Brothers Osbourne do, or that Brent Cobb does 130 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: or the Whiskey Myers does, et cetera, et cetera. But 131 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: those are all people that would maybe fall into the 132 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: category of artists that we feel like we share a 133 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: kindred spirit too, you know, And so we're all trying 134 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: to figure it out, and we're all going to have 135 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: slightly different opinions on the next best step to figure 136 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: it out. We're also all in different places in our careers, 137 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,119 Speaker 1: and I think that that's one of the big things 138 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: that is important for everybody to always kind of remember, 139 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: as it's like you can't really compare to for an 140 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: artist's path because they've started at different times and places 141 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: and everybody's experiences are different. But I think to your 142 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: point of like kindred spirits, you know, and it's in 143 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: maybe how we all connect, I think it's it's just 144 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: that kind of never ending desire to try and do 145 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: things your own way. And it's a sense of experimentation too, right, Yeah, 146 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: I mean that's part of it is, is experimenting, you know, 147 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: trying different, you know, like I said, we've we personally, 148 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, just kind of you know, stand ourselves out 149 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: from even some of our peers. We have so such 150 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: a wide range of influences, you know, from from country 151 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: to rock to medtle to jazz to funk to you know, 152 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: so we have a lot of these influences and a 153 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: lot of our songs. So of course we you know, 154 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: why not experiment with all those You know that that 155 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: entire Tabasco and Sweet Tea album we put out at 156 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: the end of twenty twenty one is all funky stuff 157 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: that we kind of grew up on, you know, and 158 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 1: there's always that underlying heavy, uh kind of metal and 159 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: rock influence that that we grew up on in the nineties. 160 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: And you know, just trying trying different stuff and trying 161 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: to you know, trying to stand out, but also being 162 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: kind of a part like Neil said, you know, being 163 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: being friends with those guys, the broz Osborn and Whiskey 164 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: Myers and those guys. There is that that kindred spirit, 165 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: that same attitude towards doing what we're doing, and we 166 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: all embrace each other and you know, are all in 167 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: the same all the same team really, so let's talk 168 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: about the influences, because that's what I love about you guys, 169 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: among other things, is how how vast it is. So 170 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: maybe let's touch Let's touch every pocket if we can, 171 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: and I'd love to hear within each pocketive influences some 172 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: particular bands that mean a lot to you. So first 173 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: of all, let's let's start among country, like who you 174 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: mentioned obviously, others Osbourne, who were some of the other 175 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: folks within country that sort of influenced you. I mean 176 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: kind of all over the I mean personally when I 177 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: I mean just going back to when I was a kid, 178 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: Uh my mom was the biggest Hank Wiams junior fan. 179 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: We had every cassette from like the early eighties the 180 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: late eighties, you know, when he was just the biggest 181 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: thing in the planet. Uh that that still resonates with me. 182 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: I've still got a bunch of forty five's with you know, 183 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: Alabama and Whalen and all that, all that eighties country stuff, 184 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: you know. I know, speaking for Jaren, he was a 185 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: huge Garth fan when Garth came out in the nineties, 186 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: and you know, a big fan of of his, you know, 187 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: the theatrics and the and the songwriting and everything really 188 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: all the all that kind of stuff, Neil, you know, 189 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, adding there are any of our current peers, 190 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: I mean we named a few of them already. But 191 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: I think growing up, yeah, I was for Kelby. It 192 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: was there enough. For Jaren. It was like his dad 193 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: played at the Opry and so he was he was 194 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: coming up getting to see, you know, all kinds of 195 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: artists come through there, and he was just a kid 196 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: kind of standing on us the stage getting to see 197 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: Garth Brooks or you know, Linda Davis or Reba or 198 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: whoever like his dad happened to either be playing with 199 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: or like standing on the side of stage waiting to 200 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: play with the next one, you know. And so there 201 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: was a lot of that which I think really fed into, 202 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: especially the songwriting side. Just being in Nashville and kind 203 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: of studying country music and the storytelling and whatnot. That 204 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: was that was a big thing I think for all 205 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: of us growing up in Nashville that maybe we didn't 206 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: even necessarily realize as kids, you know, because you're just there. 207 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: But looking kind of back on it now, it's really 208 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: easy to be like, man, we you know, both meeting 209 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: all of us at the time, that we did, you know, 210 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: as teenagers kind of when we were being influenced by 211 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: all of the music that was going on around us, 212 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: and then also being born in you know, music city 213 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: and doing music ourselves. You know, It's like, I can't 214 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: put my finger on exactly whether the fact that we 215 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: were in city had anything to do with the fact 216 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: that we all played music or not, but it sure 217 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: is convenient that it kind of happened that way. And 218 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: that's that's on the country side, yeah, I mean, just 219 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: and to wrap up that that kind of countryside, I 220 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: remember being we went to high school with John Prime's son, Jared, 221 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: and I did, and he used to throw parties when 222 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: his parents were out of town. And I remember going 223 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: over there and I didn't know who John Prime was 224 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: when I was seventeen, and just there was this room 225 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: full of guitars and you know, lyrics on the wall 226 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: and stuff, and somebody told me it was like, oh, okay, 227 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: John Prine. I didn't know what this was. So I mean, 228 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: we did, you know. That was part of just growing 229 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: up where you just I didn't know any better. It 230 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: was just the way I grew up. He had one 231 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: he had one grammy sitting on the shelf, and I'm 232 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: pretty sure that somebody drank beer out of it at 233 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: least a time or two. And you know, John primee 234 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: would have loved that. He would have been all right 235 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: with it. And that was the thing, is that we 236 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: could always have parties over there because John was always 237 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: on tour every weekend. So that was another thing that 238 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: we were kind of learning about, was like where is 239 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: your where are your parents? Oh he's on the road. 240 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: Oh what's the road? What does that mean? You know? 241 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: I recorded an episode of Taking a Walk with Amanda 242 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: Shires and she told some great stories about playing with 243 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,599 Speaker 1: John Prime and how special that was. You know, he 244 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: was a legend. So in the rock side, first of all, 245 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: thanks guys for the recommendation on the Tom Petty documentary. 246 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. So I know he's a great influence. 247 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you've caught the recent Live 248 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: at the film Moore stuff that just came out, but 249 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: my god, ain't no sunshine on that one. Holy mackerel. 250 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: So I know Tom Petty's in there. How about some 251 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: of the rock folks. What's interesting I think about the 252 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: three of us is that we all kind of come 253 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: at it from a slightly different place. You know. It's 254 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: like our and our influence is all connect, you know, 255 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: but it's like each one of us kind of has 256 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: our artist or two that are, you know, a little 257 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: bit stronger, and then they've really you know, it's like 258 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: with Jaron, you know, it was like Rage Against the 259 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: Machine was a really really big one for him, and 260 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: I know, like with Kelby was like Metallica and things 261 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: like that, a little more on the metal side, you know, 262 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: Tom Petty and more of kind of like the classic 263 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 1: rock like the Stones and the Beatles and stuff. Was 264 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: kind of what my parents always had, and like the 265 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: six disc changer at the house, you know, but you 266 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: kind of take all yeah, Zeppelin, I mean, you know, 267 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: we can I know, Hendrix was a big one for Kelby. 268 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: Like the list can kind of go on and on, 269 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: and that's part of the reason that we sound like 270 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: so many different things sometimes. But you know, I think 271 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: the big thing about it is like there's little bits 272 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: that I can kind of hear of all of that 273 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: stuff in our live show and our writing that kind 274 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: of comes out in different ways, and and each of 275 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: us have kind of introduced another artist world to each other. 276 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: And then they've become close to equal influences. Is our 277 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: original Bumpus. You know, there's another band that I thought 278 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: of that was always hard to categorize still to this day, 279 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: and I think that you guys, you know in that 280 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: beautiful way as well, and that's Little Feet just had 281 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: so many different places you can't really describe them necessarily, 282 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: but you know they're really good, you know. Yeah. And 283 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: another one that we we get to tour with a 284 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: couple of years ago before he unfortunately passed away, was 285 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: was Charlie Daniels. We went out with him in twenty 286 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: nineteen and to watch his band play. I mean they 287 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: were playing jazz and bluegrass and rock and country and 288 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: all of those things that we were just sitting there 289 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: in awe because you know, that'd been the first time 290 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: I feel like I can say that I saw him 291 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: live and I didn't realize his diverse array of influences. 292 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: So that's, you know, and that's the same kind of 293 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: thing that, you know, the same womb that we're we 294 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: kind of came out of, too, So that was definitely 295 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: more of an influence than I think I even knew 296 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: once I got to watch him play, you know, and 297 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: one of the coolest guys we ever met too. And 298 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: then the funk side. Talk about the funk influences, I 299 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: love that. Well. One big one that we listened to 300 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: after we get off stage just to chill out every 301 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: night is John Schofield and Medeski and Martin Wood put 302 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: out an album in late nineties I think called a 303 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: Go Go and it's just a real chill, really cool, 304 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: funky album. I think another influence there that was kind 305 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: of I mean I kind of forgot about it on 306 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: the rock side, but we don't really talk about it 307 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: very much, but definitely was an influence on us in 308 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: our college, you know, high school and college years was Fish. 309 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: We went to a bunch of Fish shows. And the 310 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: musicality of those guys they were all over the map too, 311 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: and you know, funky and rock and a little bit 312 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: of all over the place, and all the covers that 313 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: they would do. They it was such an array of 314 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: you know, all the genres and everything. Don't listen to 315 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: those guys as much as we used to, but there 316 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: was definitely a moment there where it was where that 317 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: was an influence. Yeah. I mean, I know again for Jared, 318 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: like Tower Power and things like that were a big influence, 319 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: you know. I think Steely Dane Steely Dan. Yeah, that's 320 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: a good one, you know, And I think all of 321 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: that stuff kind of rubs off in its own little ways. 322 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: Like Kelby mentioning Fish makes me think about, like we 323 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: don't write set lists, and like that's totally a thing 324 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: from the jam Ban world of like kind of getting 325 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: up there and feeling out the crowd and kind of 326 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: winging it, you know, and you've got your segues and 327 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: your things that you kind of know how to do, 328 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: but to kind of keep it interesting for us and 329 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: also to keep it interesting for the audience, you know, 330 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: you try and kind of shake it up as much 331 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: as possible. And so that's just you know, that can 332 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: sometimes be another byproduct of just an artist or a 333 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: band kind of like influencing you in another way that's 334 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: outside of just the music, but it's also like the 335 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: culture and the spirit and the field and kind of 336 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: how they present their show. So other than sharing amongst 337 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: yourselves things that you hear or you know remember from 338 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: the past, how do you discover either new things or 339 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: new old things? How how does discovery happen? Whatever I 340 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: hear Jared or Neil playing in the front lounge of 341 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: the bus. I don't know, It's kind of it's all 342 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: over the place these days. I mean with streaming and everything. 343 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 1: It's like there might be a song that pops on 344 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: and I hear something and I have to dig to 345 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: see who it is, because you know, if you don't, 346 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: you're going to miss it and be like, oh, what 347 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: was that song that I heard yesterday on whatever playlist 348 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: or whatever radio station that popped up? So you got 349 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: to you got to be paying attention. But I mean, 350 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: there's that's part of it, for sure. Yeah, And I 351 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: think a big thing for me lately at least, it's 352 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: just been asking people what they're listening to more proactively. 353 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: You know. It's like just just as simple as like, hey, 354 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: is there one song or one band that or one 355 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: album that you've been wearing out that I may not 356 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: ever heard before. And it's been interesting. Like I was 357 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: asking that to one of my wife's little nieces the 358 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: other day. She's like fourteen, and she named this band. 359 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: She was like, oh this everybody at my school loves 360 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: this band. I'm over it already. I was into them 361 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: like six months ago. I went and looked up the 362 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: band and they were like a nineties rock band that 363 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: never made it, And I was like, how is this 364 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 1: band big in this high school right now? But it 365 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: was big to her six months ago and now she's 366 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: over it, like and so it's I think that's one 367 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: of the interesting things that's going on right now, is 368 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: that a lot of discovery that's happening is actually old 369 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: music being rediscovered or discovered for the first time. And 370 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: I think that's maybe one of the really cool byproducts 371 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: of the streaming world is that, you know, unlike when 372 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: you're at a record store and it's like, well, I 373 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: have to buy this to find out if I'm gonna 374 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: like it or not. Now all you have to do 375 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: is just go click on something, and so the opportunity 376 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: to discover something is just right there at your fingertips 377 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: all day every day. You know. We've had that this 378 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: past couple of years. We've got this song called take 379 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: Me to the Bottom, and it wasn't until four years 380 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: after that song came out that it became our top 381 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: streaming song, you know, And for the last two years 382 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: it's just been through the roof huge streaming song for us, 383 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: and it wasn't that way when the album came out, 384 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: and it wasn't that way a year after the album 385 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: came out, and so that's that's another interesting thing about 386 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: just discovery right now, is that it can kind of 387 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: happen to any song at any time, and it doesn't 388 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: necessarily have to be something new. Yeah, and you've got 389 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: the streaming shows, I mean, Yellowstone We've had you know, 390 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: some luck on there too, and then you've got Stranger Things, 391 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: you know, talking about the throwback thing. You know, you 392 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: got Kate Bush that just that blew up the first 393 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: time in twenty five years or whatever with that song 394 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: came out. And then actually, I've got a friend that 395 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: has a ten year old little boy and he heard 396 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: Metallica Master of Puppets on Stranger Things, and you know, 397 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: there's a whole big scene and he said, Uncle Kelby, 398 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: Uncle Kelby, I want to play I want I want 399 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: you to teach me how to play. He doesn't even 400 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: play guitar, wants me to teach him how to play 401 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: Master of Puppets, you know, And I'm like, oh, yeah, 402 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: I knew that thirty years ago. You know, you got 403 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: ten year olds discovering a band like Metallica, watching Stranger Things. 404 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: So it really is all of the map between shows 405 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: and word of mouth and streaming services and radio to 406 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: some degree, I still listen to you know, local radio 407 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: or sometimes classic whatever in the in the car, you know, 408 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: terrestrial radio. So it's really all over the place. Nashville 409 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: is such a special place. There's this incredible vibe there 410 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: every time I'm down there that I'm left with just 411 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: how great the people are and the the vibe of 412 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: the music community and everything. Why is Nashville so awesome? 413 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I think geography has something to 414 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: do with it. I mean, it's definitely a spot where actually, 415 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, I was thinking more about, like from 416 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: touring standpoint, just geographically, it's easy to get to a 417 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: lot of places from Nashville. I don't know why it's 418 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: the hub of coolness and where that came from. Well, 419 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: I think everything is like sort of cyclical, right, So 420 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, La and New York had already 421 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: had their moments of being cool. I think ten or 422 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: fifteen years before or Nashville kind of started to get 423 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: the wave of artists and bands moving to Nashville that 424 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: weren't country artists, you know, the more of the rock 425 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: and whatnot that's happening now. Austin kind of had that, 426 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, And and so Austin was kind of the 427 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: the kind of hip darling city there for a while. 428 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: And I feel like Nashville's been having its moment for 429 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: for a minute, you know, and I'm sure at some 430 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: point it'll kind of max out, just like some of 431 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: these other cities do, and it'll move on to somewhere else. 432 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like Seattle had its moment too, 433 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: you know. And so but I think Kelby's right about geography. 434 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: I mean, look, if you're an artist and you're looking 435 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: for a place that is musically driven, that where there's 436 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: studios and there's opportunities in the business and whatnot, and 437 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: then also that is a is a great hub for touring. 438 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a huge advantage, you know, 439 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: and I think that that is a big reason that 440 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: so many people kind of you in Nashville is a 441 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: great place to be. I mean, if you're getting in 442 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: the van from LA and you've got to show in Kansas, 443 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: I mean, good luck getting there. You know. It's like, 444 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: you know, you can drive to fifty sixty cities from 445 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: Nashville within eight hours, you know, and so you could 446 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: really make an entire career never driving further than that 447 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: if you lived in Nashville if you really wanted to. 448 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: But is there something also if you're a musician that 449 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: Nashville has this great sense of collaboration, So if either 450 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: one of you were in need of some input on something, 451 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: you could reach out to so many different people in 452 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: the Nashville community for you know, some advice. Isn't that 453 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: part of it that's special as well? Yeah, I mean, 454 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: I think just the fact that Nashville feels like a 455 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: small town, but that the majority of the town is 456 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: filled with people that are interested in music or the 457 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: music business is definitely an asset, you know. I think 458 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: for us as a band, we've actually like kind of 459 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: done a lot of the opposite of that, and that 460 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: we've always just kind of followed our own lead and 461 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: done our own thing and not really ask for too 462 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: much opinion from anybody about what we were up to. 463 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: But on the flip side of that, from a collaboration 464 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: standpoint as songwriters, that's a humongous asset, you know. I 465 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: think where we've been able to collaborate with all these 466 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: different artists on the songwriting side, you know, Jared just 467 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: had I think is ninth or tenth number one, you 468 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: know as a songwriter, And so from that side of things, 469 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: it's like it's absolutely an advantage and just I think 470 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: one of the you know, if you want to have 471 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: like two tracks in your career, which to be honest, 472 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: if you're going to be in the music business and 473 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: make a living, you kind of need to have at 474 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: least two tracks in your career. Probably it's a good 475 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: place to have that. Are you guys still learning in 476 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: this part of your journey? Learning new things? I don't 477 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: think when you're artistic, I don't think you stop learning. 478 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's learning how to be a better musician 479 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: or a songwriter, or what we can do better as 480 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: a band. You know, all of that place into the 481 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: same thing. I think we're I think we're always learning. 482 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: I think really everybody is. But definitely, speaking from an 483 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: artistic point of view, I don't think you ever you 484 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: could ever stop. There's always there's always something else to 485 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: try to reach for, and things are always changing. So 486 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, as soon as soon as you think you've 487 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: got something figured out, you got to figure it out again. 488 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: Favorite places to play on the road in both the 489 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: US and globally. What are some of the favorite places 490 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: you love playing. I feel like I should have a 491 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: better answer for that by now, I've been asked enough everywhere. 492 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: A lot of it's by shows, you know. It's like, 493 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: my memories are more based on shows than you know. Oh, 494 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: I can't wait to go to the city, you know, 495 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: and I get excited about certain you know. It's like 496 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: I love going to Chicago. You know. I love the 497 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: idea of playing a hometown show in Nashville, but actually 498 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: doing it is usually stressful. You know. I always get 499 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: excited about going overseas. You know, We've been really fortunate 500 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: to grow really great fan base in the UK, and 501 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: so I think that that's you know, if there was 502 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: one simple answer, it would probably be the UK. And 503 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: that's just because it was a concrete goal that we 504 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: had that it was like, hey, we want to go 505 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: and do this, and we think that it could really resonate, 506 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: and it actually has, and so I think there's an 507 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: excitement to that, just because every time we go it 508 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: keeps kind of getting bigger and bigger, and you know, 509 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: from a travel and a cultural standpoint, it's it's different 510 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: than you know how we spend most of our year 511 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: running around the US. And that's not a knock on 512 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: the US. It's just it's different, which makes it exciting. 513 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: But it's so great when you find a new audience, right, 514 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: it's just like you sort of go, my god, look 515 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: at how did this suddenly happen? Right? Yeah, for sure? 516 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean I could show up. We don't even know where? 517 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: How did you? How did they find out about us? 518 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: Where did they come from? That was that's that was 519 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: the feeling. The first time we went to the first play, 520 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: first show we played in London, it was like, where 521 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: did these people even hear about us to show up 522 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: at the show. So that's always exciting when you go 523 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: to a new place and anybody's there, because you don't 524 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: really ever expect it. I don't care how big you get. Guys. 525 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: In closing, can you define why music is so important 526 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: to us in our life? Oh kay, we'll be It's 527 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: tattooed all over you. I mean it's something that everybody needs. 528 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: I feel like it's that simple. I mean, I don't 529 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: know anybody that doesn't listen to music. For some reason 530 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: or another. If you don't, you're weird. You know, it's 531 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: a it's something that it's just ingrained into part of 532 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: who all of us are, and it makes you feel 533 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 1: a certain way depending on what you're what you're listening to, 534 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: how you're feeling that day, you find something that resonates 535 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 1: with you. And it's just something that's that has to 536 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: be there. It's something that is there and and something 537 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: that everybody absorbs, and it's it's just a part of life. 538 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: I think it's like a it's like a good friend. 539 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: It's like if you need a smile, it's there. If 540 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: if you're upset, you know, it'll kind of hang out 541 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: with you. It's you know, it's like my four month 542 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: old baby was crying in the car the other day 543 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: and my two year old daughter was like yelling, completely 544 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: oblivious to the crying, and I was like, Luke, can 545 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: you sing Teddy may A song? Just because I wanted 546 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: her to stop yelling, and she and she started singing 547 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: Twinkle Twinkle, Little Star, and like thirty seconds later, our 548 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: baby was just like smiling and listening to her. So 549 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: it's like, I think that when it comes down to it, 550 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: it's just like it's a great uh it's also a 551 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: great neutralizer. But you know, it's it's the thing that 552 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: it allows people to congregate happy or sad, and you know, 553 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: they can each have their own experience with it but 554 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: also feel connected in a bigger way, which I think 555 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: is the thing that it's maybe hard to put your 556 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: finger on about music but also makes it so special. 557 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: And you know, from our perspective, the amazing thing that 558 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: I just kind of like marvel at pretty much every 559 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: single day is that we've been able to take the 560 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: idea of a band, you know, that we just made 561 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: up out of thin air, and then every day we 562 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: make up new songs that are out of thin air, 563 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: and then we go play shows that are you know, 564 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: kind of out of thin air. And somehow twenty years later, 565 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: you're still doing that. And it's you know, you can 566 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: still you know, have a roof over your head and 567 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: put gas in your car and whatever else, and so 568 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's it's been a real kind 569 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: of blessing to just get to do it, and hopefully 570 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: we just kind of get to keep doing it. If 571 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: we don't get in our way think about it too much, 572 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: you kind of just get to keep doing it well. 573 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm very grateful for having the opportunity to talk to 574 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: you and have you on the Taking a Walk podcast. 575 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: You put a smile on my face and your music 576 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: gives me and your fans great joy, and I want 577 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: to thank you for that. Thank you man. Sorry we 578 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: couldn't walk in person. Maybe we'll do that next time. 579 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: Sounds good. Taking a Walk with Buzznight is available on Spotify, 580 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.