WEBVTT - Ep. 108: Broken Bones and Loose Change 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:12.760 This is me eat your podcast coming at you shirtless, 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:18.360 severely fog bitten in my case, underwear listening podcast. You 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:22.840 can't predict anything here. Here's something that came up there. 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:26.600 They are machine. Yeah, we should introduce everyone. We kind 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:30.760 of have alright, we've got into like okay, so Ronald 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:37.000 f Ronnie Bam and Ronnie and Ronnie UM. Being in 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:41.320 the trades and having employees, Ronnie's name is usually preceded 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:46.840 by Evan only by my employees, not clients, by which 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.440 you and your brothers are several of my ex employee 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:56.360 And when I worked there, we would always say Ronnie, UM, Ronnie. 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.040 But you never said to my face, no, have two. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.160 I was brought up, was not brought up that way. 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:03.040 I was brought up to talk bad about people behind 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:10.480 the back. That's my Midwest upbringing um your honest tell us. 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.240 I got Yanni, A guy rode in to say that 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:19.520 if you go into um some voice things, some voice 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:23.560 recognition thing and say Janice Poodles, it'll say, did you 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:28.000 mean j honest tell us? Yeah, he thinks you must 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:31.920 be famous. Won how many times he tried that voice recognition? Yeah, 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.760 Janice Poodles? Now yeah, because When I go to have 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:38.840 my car call you, I have to say call Janice, 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:43.360 poo tell us and then it pulls you up if 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:45.119 I they call y honest, doesn't know what I'm talking about. 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:50.400 Doug durn Here I am and Rufus Wolf. You got it, 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:54.640 Russell Wolf? You got a brother rufus roof, rufus roof 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.920 like the one on your house. Uh, the one over 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:01.480 this hotel in Sue Falls, South Dakota. Uh, Doug, what 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:02.960 we we were talking about this yard day and I 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:04.680 made a mistake, And man, did we get a lot 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:10.760 of dudes right? And in about um the correction, I 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:13.320 said that the biggest white tail ever killed, and I 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:18.880 gave the wrong place. Do you know the answer? You'd 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:23.680 being a white tail feller? Um? You know? I don't. 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:25.720 I do, but I don't. I can't. I can't think 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:31.440 of it. Yeah. Dirkin drives around on Drkin's truck. Do 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:35.160 you know that Dirkin has decales of the world's biggest 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:39.080 white tails on his truck. It's like sticker cutouts, doesn't 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:43.840 everybody in Wisconsin? He keeps the next his his packers 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:49.400 sticker raid around the packers sticker are big giant white 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:52.000 tail bucks. I never made the connection there. You don't 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:57.160 know about the Milo Hanson about the Ohio Skatchew one. Right, 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:59.040 it's a scatch one. I had said that it was 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:03.280 shot now bird And this guy says, among several other fellas, 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:07.640 says this is incorrect. The world's largest typical white dale 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.840 white tailed deer was shot in Saskatchewan by Milo Hanson 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:19.600 in and five eights inches. This guy also goes on 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:23.320 to say, like we get, We get people annoyed all 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.600 the time because like when we'll talk about various calibers, 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.280 we don't talk about the three o eight. This guy 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.839 goes on to say, it's interesting to note that two 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:34.880 of the top three world record typical white dale deer 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:39.160 were taken by three oh eight winchesters. And he goes 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:40.880 on from there to say, this is why I call 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.040 my three o eight the big giant deer a tractor. 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.800 It's a long name for a caliber. That was the 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.360 thing I want to bring up another Still, I'm gonna 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:57.640 drop coincidence on that one. Un coincidence. I think coincidence too. Uh. 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:01.880 We get because because we acknowledge corrections. Um, there's some 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.440 podcasts if they acknowledged corrections, they wouldn't have time for 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:09.160 the podcast because there's there's a lot of new shows 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.560 too out there. We wouldn't have time for the new 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:16.640 show if they had to sit around. Yeah, so we 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:21.359 um because we acknowledge corrections. I think that it generates 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.640 a lot more corrections. It's like a Yeah, it's like 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:30.080 a snake eating its tail. Two. I had said, how 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.800 Petty's American Girl. I'm looking at you, ducks. I know 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:37.840 you like uh, you're like a music feller. Um. I 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.160 had said, because I had always heard that American Girl 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:47.480 was based on a suicide of a student that in Gainesville, Florida, 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:51.880 the Gators. I'd always heard that. This guy wrote in 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:55.200 and said, it's complete horseship. It's not about a girl. 0:04:55.680 --> 0:05:00.279 There was a suicide. It's not about that girl. U Um, 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:05.200 it's urban legend. Petty talked about it. This guy says, 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:06.720 I'm not trying to rag on you, but you ought 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:10.400 to know. It's more of a composite or something. It's 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:12.880 just not it's like he wrote a song. I had 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:16.240 always heard us about this girl killing herself, and if 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.440 you listen to it, you can kind of see she 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:22.560 was a girl. Yeah, and she could hear the cars 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:24.640 roll by and all four or forty one and for 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:29.479 one desperate moment, Oh god, it's so painful, right one 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:34.600 could see. Um. I think it was Sammy Hagar that 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:39.560 once said that his lyrics are someone will crack me 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:41.800 on this. I think I'm guessing. I think it was 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:46.359 sam When he listens to a song and he thinks 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:49.080 he knows what they're saying and later learns that they're 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.160 saying something else, he just takes what he thought they 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:55.159 were saying and makes that his song. That's how he 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:59.080 writes songs. Maybe, Yeah, it's a great idea. I think 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.120 there's a U two song where in it he said 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:04.400 a few broken bones and some loose change, which I 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.600 thought was like a great title for a book. That's 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.720 not what he says that later looked it up and 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:12.640 it was. And the Gota davida, you know what he's 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:16.440 saying in the Garden of Eden. But that's where it 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:24.839 became one and the same. Um, now just gonna blake. 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.719 Look at his face. He's gonna his blank look is 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:33.360 not going anywhere soon. Because there's a couple of other 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:35.440 things like we got into, like we just happened to 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:37.839 cover some stuff that wound up generating like a lot 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:43.440 of clarifications. We had talked about the whole all right, 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.760 Yanni explained, do this be honest. I want you to. 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:54.880 I'm gonna test your abilities explain corner hopping. Oh, that's easy, okay, 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:57.840 and then while doing it, I invite you to to 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:03.080 just describe it. Um, you go into the aerial space discussion. 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.800 That's where I'm leading with this because we got into 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:09.960 like a legality issue, which we can't start. No. We 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.520 talked about two things in one, you're still you're not off. 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:14.920 The you're still gonna explain corner happening. We had a 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:16.880 guy right in with a thing where he's saying, and 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.840 this is something Yanni has done. You're standing on private land, 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:24.440 you're standing on public land, and you're looking across an 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:28.200 expanse of private land you do not have permission on. 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.400 And on the other side of that private land is 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:37.000 more public land upon which stands one's target being deer 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:42.800 or whatever. And you shootouch and your bullet flies over 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:46.560 the dude's land that you don't have permission on. Is 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:52.080 that legal? Yanni's actually done this? No, I was almost 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:56.120 almost did it. I probably maybe have I don't know. Um, no, 0:07:56.360 --> 0:08:00.600 I don't know. And uh that that led into a 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:06.280 discussion of the problem with corner hopping, and you, honest 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:11.679 will explain corner hopping. Yeah, one minute too. We put 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.640 the airspace question like, can your bullet fly across land 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:17.120 you don't have permission to be on? Can your bullet trespass? 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.240 We put the airspace question to a game warden in 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.280 Idaho and said he said, in idho that would be legal. 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:28.120 But it prompted a lot of listener feedback. Now Yanni 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.800 will step in and explain corner hopping and how it 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:35.360 relates to what we're talking about. Yeah, corner hopping is 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:39.640 is in a checkerboard and landscape of where you have 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:43.440 different land management and owners. And the easiest way to 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.520 look at that is imagine a checkerboard and all the 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:51.080 black pieces are state, public or federal, all the red 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:57.040 red squares are private, so every four corners you have 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:00.560 two black and two red. Touch Corner opping would be 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.680 that if you're on the public the black, you would 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:07.160 just step over and through the airspace and onto the 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:10.320 other black you get onto another section in the game 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:21.920 of checkers. Yeah, okay, um, but I think in most states, Well, 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.480 I don't know. We'll get into it here because because 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:26.800 it's it's it's tricky. Yeah, and I only think we're 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:28.560 gonna resolve it today. I think it's gonna be an 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.760 ongoing thing. We're want to have some experts on to 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:34.000 talk about it. There is no resolution. There's no resolution, 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:37.520 and which which we'll discuss in the minute. So, um, 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:40.040 you have to explain it well enough for you. Yeah. Yeah. 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.560 So people are basically saying that, no, you can't corner 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.120 hot because although you're not touching my land, you're going 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:49.680 through the airspace above my land when you corner hot. Okay, Joel, 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:54.800 go ahead, du question, let me let me I stop 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:58.000 the Irish question of oh, already know what it is 0:09:58.000 --> 0:09:59.480 because I think it dude brought it up, or dude 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.960 that road In brought it up, the idea that because 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:06.520 I want to check something, all right, roof, did you 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:12.439 follow that? Oh? Absolutely? Really? Oh yeah for sure. And 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.280 I could argue I could go from red to red 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:20.240 without infringing on any black space. It's white, isn't it. Well? 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:24.200 He used black and red. Really on a checkerboard, it's 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:28.640 black and red. Chess is normally black and white. All right, Yes, 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:33.480 theoretically one could step from Okay, go ahead, dug a tree. 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.120 So a tree is growing on your property line and 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:41.120 the branches and it's on the neighbor's property. But those 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:45.280 branches are hanging over your onto your land or onto 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:48.280 your not your land, onto your space, into your over 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:53.320 your driveway, onto your house. Can you cut those branches off? Oh? Yeah, 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:55.080 I used to be an arbor's well, that's why I 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.640 knew that. As I've been involved, I've been up in 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:05.679 the tree as the neighbors argued that. I've looked down 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:07.839 at the tops of head the tops of the heads 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:11.280 of individuals engaged in such argument with the chainsaw idling. 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:17.440 And yeah, oh, speaking of chainsaws idling, my um, I 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:21.720 told my kids the story of one your dad chopped 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.760 himself open with the chainsaw. Why would you tell your 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.720 kids that story? Yeah, don't know why, But you know 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:29.200 what part they like a lot is the part I 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:34.760 like that You told me that that your old man, um, 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.160 you know, like, drives himself to a bar, he gets 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:40.600 met of act and later someone goes out to retrieve 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:43.400 his stuff. It's like an ad for the chainsaw. What 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:46.920 kind of saw? Was this a home? Later they go 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:49.240 out to retrieve his dad's stuff out in the woods 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:54.240 where he like fingers no no, yeah, and the saws 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.720 laying there on the woods. What what? What? What? Still? 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.400 That's the punt that they love that detail. But I 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.040 thought you when you started to say that, I thought, well, 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:07.520 he's gonna teach them the lesson. Of of course they're 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.000 a little young for it. But I've always have your 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.200 vehicle pointing out because you never know when you're gonna 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.640 need to leave in a hurry. You know, I can't 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:16.120 remember how I got into it, and they don't have 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.160 They don't drive yet, the oldest being seven. Yeah, but 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:23.760 you know what their bikes, they could start your scooter 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:29.360 or leaving faith because that time Steve's checking everyone, did 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:34.040 you back your bike in? Alright, go downstairs? Um. Yeah. 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:35.800 They like the part that the saw was still all 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.680 the woods running, and they bring it up all the time. Yeah, 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.080 they like the story about a good saw, all right. 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.440 Joel Webster from t RCP, We're still on this corner 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:48.719 crossing correction. It's not a correction. Clarification, he writes in 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.960 to say, in regards to your discussion about corner crossing, 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.640 it's a legal gray area. The State of Montana's access 0:12:56.679 --> 0:13:02.000 guide says it is not recommended. It doesn't say that 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:07.160 it is illegal. He's never heard of anyone being cited 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:10.960 by it, cited for it, but they do not recommend it. 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:15.760 I email some guys who worked for the state government 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:20.920 of Wyoming and he goes on to say it is 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:27.240 not there definitive either, and there's no specific statute on 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:34.680 the book. However, the attorney general in the state's Attorney 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.600 General in two thousand four reviewed it and said you 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.800 might not be able to do it. It's as close 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:45.320 as they've come. So some legislators because because he's saying 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:51.040 that you the cornerlines are infinitely thin and there's no 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:57.800 way to cross without entering private airspace. Some legislators have 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:02.520 attempted to introduce bills directly authorizing corner crossing, or others 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:07.600 have introduced legislation to specifically prohibit it. Neither gets much 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:13.560 attraction with lawmakers. County attorneys rarely, if ever, try to 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:17.600 prosecute for corner crossing unless it's adding to a list 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:23.400 of additional offenses to use as a settlement chip. He can't, 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.520 this guy can't, and this guy's an attorney, he can't 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:29.040 remember the last time he saw someone actually convicted of 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:36.400 corner crossing. That said, it's wildly understood as impermissible in Wyoming. Um. 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:40.640 He goes not permissible, not permissible, and the check He 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.120 goes on to say how the checkerboard areas have allowed 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.040 to do with how the railroads were structured and funded, 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:51.040 And he says that the inability to jump corners prohibits 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:56.520 access to literally hundreds of thousands of acres of public land. 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:05.760 So there's that another guy question. I mean this happens 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:09.600 to bird hunters constantly. I mean you, I mean, it 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.520 doesn't even happen to mountains too much. But we we've 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:16.480 been doing it forever. Corner crossing, Yeah, because the corner 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.560 What states have you corner hopped in South Dakota, North 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.080 Dicote all the time. But is that private land to 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.960 private land? Yeah, it's private in the private land. But 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.320 I don't see that. What oh you mean corner hopping 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.680 over another dude's private right right that you don't have 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:31.640 permission on? Don't have permission? How do you know your 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:35.680 boots in the right spot? We just do it well mathematically, 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.840 You're you're gonna be stepping on somebody's land, right, if 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:40.760 you don't unless if there has to be a corner 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:42.720 post there and you've got a good you've got a GPS, 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:46.480 you could do it right. But you know when we 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:50.120 when the farmer gives us like hunt at eight and 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:53.240 then the next one over is mine too, And you 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.520 can tell they're butted only on the corner. They're made 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:57.440 by the same fence. You you know, Yeah, they're butted 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.000 on the corners. And we don't even go in the corner. 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.400 We go to the nearest post words safe, and so 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.480 we're just but our intention isn't a hunt on that 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:09.440 person's land. Our intention is to get to that next 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.920 piece of property. I put it to a guy in 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:19.720 Idaho fishing game officer in Idaho um Idaho Code thirty 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:24.640 six DASH thirte known as Recreational Trestpass. The keywords are 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:29.120 no person shall enter the property of another and then 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.920 there's criminal trustpass. And he says they would ultimately if 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.000 one were to do this like you've done it, and 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:36.840 and the the guy that owns the land would get 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:41.400 piste um. He says, it's probably if this sort of 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.520 happened in Idaho, it's probably gonna come down to the 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:49.440 members of a jury, and they haven't had to. They 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:51.920 haven't had to. No one's been got it that far. 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:57.520 Where was interpreted? Do I say it's legal? He says, 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:00.680 until it's challenged in the case you know it goes 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:06.000 to court. It's uncharted territory. I'm surprised to hear all 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:09.800 this because like the way you're told, you know, and 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.480 it's spelled out, everybody thinks that you cannot do it. 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:16.240 Not recommended, but it's not well, it sounds like I 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.960 think that in in Wyoming. I think he's saying that 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:21.920 I can see so so we had not one of 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.600 our camera guys heard us talking about this, and he 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.680 wrote into and he got into this thing where like 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.480 how much air do you own above your property? And 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:34.680 he said the Supreme Court acknowledged that the air above 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:39.280 your property um extends at least up to eighty three 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:42.920 ft because the Air Force was flying planes buzzing low 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:44.920 over a guy's place and scared a bunch of his 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:49.160 chickens to death and he won a lawsuit for them 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.119 infringing on his thing. Rick thinks it's more likely to 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:57.399 be to be, you know, about five feet the Supreme 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.440 Court hasn't explicitly accepted that as the for a limit 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:04.120 of property ownership, but it's a useful guideline and trespass cases, 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:09.320 which your damn bullet isn't that high? Your bullets five 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:13.360 five ft off the ground, or if you're leaning over, 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:16.880 if you're leaning over the fence, can can you use 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:21.159 that person spent post for a rifle rest? Yeah, So 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:23.560 the military is found to be violating a guy's property 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:25.720 rights by buzz and aircraft over it. So the fact 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.760 that you can buzz bullet over it um in this case. 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:32.280 So you need to be limiting someone's ability to enjoy 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:35.240 their property. And I could see that someone would say 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.240 bullets flying around on my property limits my ability to 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.160 enjoy it. And the fact that they killed his chickens 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.600 or whatever, to you know, it's a loss of property. 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:47.160 So see, I could tie that into another scatter gun thing. 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:49.680 You're allowed to hunt the ditches here in South Dakota 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:53.439 because we're tying us into South Dakota. In South Dakota, 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:56.760 so it's legal to hunt the ditches in South Dakota 0:18:56.920 --> 0:19:00.639 even if it's private property, because because the it's a 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:02.159 right way, it's a right away. They don't mind you 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:05.000 shooting that close to the road, is there. Yeah, there's 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:10.240 rules about unimproved unimproved roads, unimproved roads not not blacked out. Yeah, 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:12.920 you're common road. In South Dakota, you know, gravel road. 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:17.960 So that's totally legal. I guarantee it. I'm not doubting. 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.280 But now in North Dakota it's the opposite. North Dakota, 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:25.040 you cannot hunt the ditch unless you have permission of 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:28.880 the landowner that it butts the ditch. But my point 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.159 is state to state difference. Stay state different. But my 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:35.200 point is, so when we're ditch hunting pheasants, they come 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:38.000 out and they fly. They don't usually fly right down 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:41.760 the road. They fly out into private property and we 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:44.719 will shoot them, and you have to get permission to retrieve. 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:47.440 In some states you have to get permission to retrieve 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:50.280 the pheasant. Let's just use pheasant free the analogy. Do 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:52.640 you have to get permission or in some states you've 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:56.560 gotta You can't have your gun without firearm. Without firearm, 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:59.680 you can walk in and get get it without permission, 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:01.879 but some places you have to have permission. But what 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:04.600 I get in at is the propellant, the bullets the babies. 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.639 They're damn sure going over that's my point, thank you. 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:10.919 They're landing in his property, not even going over it. 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:14.240 You are littering lead into his property. That think it's 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:18.639 always legal because you're shot is always landing exactly especial 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:20.240 as we have another question guy, that's throw it in 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:21.600 about but I'm not going to get into that one 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:24.680 right now. So it is interesting, but you're you're putting 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:31.959 lead into somebody's dog. I just want to know what 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:36.160 you what you're as a substantial landowner. What's your opinion 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:38.080 on the corner? You don't I know because I know 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:41.600 your property lines that you don't have that instance. But 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:44.520 let's just say that you had locked up forty acres 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.359 of Wisconsin state land in the middle, but there was 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:53.160 a corner to get in there. It seems fine to me. 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:56.560 You know, I'd prefer that somebody came and asked. But 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:58.800 you know, hey, is this gonna be all right? Yeah? 0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:02.240 Well everyone would prefer that. Want to ask everybody everything right? 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:05.520 But uh yeah, I don't think that's you know what 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:07.960 I mean, if it's state land, it's state land. You know. 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:10.000 Being the kind of guy I am, might probably put 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:13.200 a little access corridor across my property to it. Nice 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:18.359 little dove climbing. Because that see this issue going to 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:21.680 write in and say bullshit, I know, Durham. Well, this 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:24.760 issue really starts to make its own gravy because here's this. 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:28.120 A guy writes in from Alaska and this gout, This 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:32.399 subject got him thinking. He writes in from Alaska. He 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:37.240 explains that he is moose hunting on the Kenai Peninsula 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:43.119 and he's on just like let's just say, like a 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:48.000 general public land and his back is to a state 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:53.080 park in the state park. And like most states, you 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:55.479 can't hunt state parks, but some states there are some 0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:57.040 state parks you can hunt. And this is a state 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.360 park in Alaska where you can hunt. You cannot discharge 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:02.080 a firearm on it. It just as in the state park. 0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:07.440 It's archery only same rags apply, same bag limits and 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.480 seasons apply, just no firearm discharge, so you can bow 0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:14.399 hunt it. He's sitting on which is I don't know 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:17.040 what it was. Let's say he's on state forest with 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:19.920 his back to state park, looking out this way to 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:22.440 kill a moose on state forest with his rifle. Turns around. 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:28.440 Biggest blackberries has ever seen is twenty yards out of 0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:32.879 the state park. He doesn't shoot because he's like, you 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:37.760 can't shoot a gun. You can't kill him in there 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:40.679 with a gun. He comes home as oh Man is 0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:43.920 on his case because he's like, you didn't You would 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:46.680 not have discharged a firearm in the state park. You 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:49.399 would have discharged the firearm in the state forest. The 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:52.320 bear died in the state park from a firearm wound, 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:55.680 a firearm wound, but you didn't discharge your gun there. 0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:58.680 You you should have shot the bear. He says. I've 0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:02.040 never even bothered to all Alaska Fishing Game because there's 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:04.359 no way they'll give me a straight answer. So I 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:06.720 call Alaska Fishing Game and right away I make the 0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:08.760 mistake of saying, like what I do for a living. 0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:09.960 And so then I had to deal with the public 0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:13.439 affairs person and I get to explain it to him, 0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:18.080 the thing, and they refuse. They're like who, And I'm like, 0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:22.439 it's just a guy. What year? But he didn't do it? 0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:26.040 And I'm like, he didn't do it. He's just a guy. 0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:28.440 And then I got frustrated, and I grew frustrated and 0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:30.520 I'm like, hey, let's just say hypothetically we don't deal 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:36.160 in hypothetical laws. I'm like, come on, man, that's how 0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:38.160 far I got with that. Well, that's a bummer because 0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:40.480 they really sometimes kind of pride themselves on having it 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:44.480 spelled out in the REGs that you don't have hypotheticals 0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:46.919 and white. Well, they said, you gotta tell me the 0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:51.640 year in the exact location. That's pretty black and white. 0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:54.600 But I mean, I just feel like it's would be possible. 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:56.760 You know, sure I could. I would have had to 0:23:56.760 --> 0:23:58.159 tell him the year in the exact location, which I 0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:00.360 didn't have from the guy. I could have wrote the guy, 0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:04.320 he's listening right now. You'd had to provide all that 0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:09.040 extra detail. But it just goes to show. But if 0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:12.199 you might recall this sign that's on my friend on 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:14.600 the land next to my friend Tyson's property, it says, 0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:18.040 do not shoot into these woods. Of course, we've now 0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:20.199 made a sign on the opposite side that says do 0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:24.280 not shoot out of those woods. But I wonder about 0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:27.200 that too. You know, the same idea. It's a private 0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:29.560 land issue. Okay, one more of these things, one more 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:32.880 of these things. We gotta take care of the whole 0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:34.920 thing we're talking about with, like, hey, a guy writes 0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:37.320 in and he says, I live in a state where 0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:39.920