1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody? Welcome to a Wednesday night edition 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 1: of Texans All Access, one day away from NFL Draft 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. We will have you covered right here 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: on Sports Radio six D ten I. Your host is 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: SEVENE John Harris, football analysts, side of the Reporter, draft 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call me. We'll be here for 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: the entire the duration, starting at six o'clock right here, 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: we'll have a Texans All Access show for an hour. 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: The draft will kick off at seven with Mark Vandemir 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: and myself and Andre where. Friday, we will come back 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: at six with Mark Vandemir, myself and Clint Sterner. And 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: then on Saturday, starting in the morning, which I believe 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: is eleven, Sean Pendergaston myself to start, myself, and Mark 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: Vanimir to finish, we will have Nick Casserio on Friday night. 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: We'll have Nick Kisserio on Saturday night as well, and 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: we will also have him on tonight. We'll get to 17 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: that in just a bit. But this is one of 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,919 Speaker 1: even though the Texans are not picking as of now, 19 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: in the first and second rounds, it's one of the 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 1: crazier drafts I can remember. Whether there's misinformation out there 21 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: about this crop of quarterbacks that has just been phenomenal. 22 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: This group of quarterbacks is as good as we've seen 23 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: one through five. Trevor Lawrence we know is going one. 24 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: We presume Zach Wilson's going too. Does the draft really 25 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: start at number three in San Francisco where Kyle Shanahan 26 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: John Lynch made a big move up to go get 27 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: another quarterback? Does Jimmy Garoppolo then stay in San Francisco? 28 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: Are we all alive on Sunday? There's so many questions 29 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: and they at least get answered on Thursday night. Can 30 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: not wait? Cannot wait? Now? I know most of you, 31 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what the Texans will do well in 32 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: this choose. You're on adventure that is the NFL Draft, 33 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: getting all the way to number sixty seven and having 34 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: some sort of clue what's gonna happen completely out the window, 35 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: no idea whatsoever of what's gonna happen at number sixty seven. 36 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: You can play all the different scenarios. You can look 37 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: at your board, talk to your scouts, which I know 38 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: Nick Kissario has done. You're trying to figure out what 39 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: could happen. There will be at least five to seven 40 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: players that the Texas draft room will look at each 41 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: other and go, they drafted him in a second, him 42 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: in a late first. All this bodes well for us. 43 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: That's gonna go on. I can promise you that will happen. 44 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: And by the time they get to number sixty seven, 45 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: the Texas will have a decision to make take a pick, 46 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: move down. What do you want to do? This draft, 47 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: maybe more than any others, is as intriguing as anything 48 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: we've seen in the draft. It'll be the third year 49 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: out of four without first round pick. It'll be the 50 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: second out of four without a first and a second. 51 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: But that'll all change next year. But once you get 52 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: the number sixty seven, it's all behind us. Then it's 53 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: make eight picks. Maybe maybe it'll be less, maybe it'll 54 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: be more. We'll see what happens. But it all starts 55 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: tomorrow night right here on Sports Radio six ten me, 56 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: Mark andre Ware, Clint Sterner, Sean Pandergast, Tyler Millner, producers galore. 57 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: There'll be all kinds of people with this draft, and 58 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: it will be a blast, and I'll be here for 59 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: I'll be here for the whole thing. It's always fun 60 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: and it's grueling and it's exhausting. Also alert you to 61 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: our Draft Day live shows over at Houston Texas dot com. 62 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: We will have one starting at five o'clock on Thursday tomorrow. 63 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: We will have one at four thirty on Friday, and 64 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: then nine o'clock on Saturday. So you go to Texas 65 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: dot Com. Obviously you'll keep it locked in here to 66 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: Sports Trade at six ten, listen to Sean's staff, to 67 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: Landry Lopez and to Show and Clint. Always keep it 68 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: locked into them for sure. And then of course we 69 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: take over from six to seven this week and this 70 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: weekend we take over for a little longer or that 71 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: because of the NFL Draft. So it will be fun. 72 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: I don't know if fun is the word that Nick 73 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: Cassio would use, but it is going to be kind 74 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: of exciting. It's his first one. It's the first opportunity 75 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: for him to call to Cleveland and say, hey, write 76 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: this name down on the card. And he's gonna be 77 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: able to do that often. I know he's looking forward 78 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: to it. You know why we talked to him and 79 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: we asked him about that. Here is Jim Nick Cassario 80 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: one night before the draft, and I think Nick gives 81 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: a little bit of hint into what he might do 82 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: at number sixty seven when I ask him about the 83 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: strength of this draft being in the kickers. Let's go, Nick, 84 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: take us through a little bit of the process here. 85 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: What's it been like getting ready for this draft with 86 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: your staff, with the coaching staff? If you guys have 87 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: been entrenched for a little while now, Oh, it's been awesome. Mark, 88 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: We've We've spent a lot of time collectively, bold staff, 89 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,239 Speaker 1: kind of independently with the coaching staff, kind of getting 90 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: some of their feedback and some evaluations on some players 91 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: and interfacing that with some of the things that we've 92 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: accumulated this point from the scouting side, and just trying to, 93 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, bring those two together so that we're just 94 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: trying to identify kind of the right players that we 95 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: think we like or would be able to have we 96 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: think hopefully some role in some capacity for our team, 97 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: whatever that looks like. So there's a combination of factors 98 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: that can winto it. But I think the work that 99 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: Lip and Bazz and their respective staffs have done to 100 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: get us to this point has been exemplary. So you know, 101 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: we're excited about the opportunity in front of us, and 102 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: we're just going to try out to maximize our picks 103 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: whenever those are and just be prepared to pick whenever 104 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: that is. So it could be, you know, probably not 105 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: until much later on Friday, but like we're you know, 106 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: looking forward to it and just trying to take advantage 107 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: of the opportunities that we have in front of us. Nick. Obviously, 108 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: last year we had a combine and no pro days. 109 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: This year we've had Pro days but no combine. Do 110 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: you find one better than the other or just different? 111 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: It's a good question, John. I would say probably more different, 112 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: But I don't think like the information or the evaluation 113 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: specifically from the workout standpoint, is any different, right. I 114 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: think the beauty of the combine is that he had 115 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: a centralized hub right in location where there was three 116 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: hundreds so players ish roughly right, So you're able to 117 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: accomplish a number of different things, right, interviews, meeting with 118 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: players on a face to face basis, medicals, and an 119 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: on field right so you're able to do that all 120 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: in one spot. This year is a little bit more fragmented, right, 121 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: because essentially you have the Pro Day, which you get 122 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: the on field right, But there's nothing else that could 123 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: take place at the schools. In the medical there's one 124 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty that went to Indy, So you're getting 125 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: that information right, and you're doing the interviews over zoom right. 126 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: So it's a little bit more disjointed and in terms 127 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,559 Speaker 1: of how you have to do it, but you're still 128 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: trying to ride at the same end point. So the 129 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: beauty of the combine, it's just kind of centralized if 130 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: it's everything in one spot. This has just been a 131 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: little bit different, but I wouldn't say that it's been 132 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: less effective. Nick. When you make trades, obviously you have 133 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: to do it so fast, with so little time between picks. 134 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: Do you lay the groundwork ahead of time for potential deals? 135 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: How do you handle that in advance or do you 136 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: just wait till you're doing it on the fly. It's 137 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: a really good question. Mark. We've done it kind of 138 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: both ways in the past, right, and depending on where 139 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: you're picking, right. Trades are so player driven, right, so 140 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: a lot of that is contingent upon what happens in 141 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: front of you and as the players come off the board. 142 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: So we're at sixty seven right now, right, So to 143 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: try to make any calls about trades or moving is 144 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: probably not realistic at this point. But again, if you 145 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: get to a certain point, you're looking X number of 146 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: spots and then you're looking at some of the resources 147 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: that you have. Okay, how much is it gonna take 148 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: for us to get here? All right, there's a specific 149 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: player that we want, all right, is it actually feasible 150 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: for us to do it? Right? So we've handled it 151 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: both ways. We've done it both ways. But those are 152 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: very organic. I wouldn't say there's necessarily a set formula 153 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: to them. Nick, maybe you can help me with this too, 154 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: because as I've gone through kind of my own analysis 155 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: for the draft, one of the things that I get 156 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: to this kind of stopping point at certain points about 157 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: players and I'm not sure what to do. And that's 158 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: the opt out situation. When players opted out, and there 159 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: were all kinds of them. Ones that opted out back 160 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: in June, there were some that opted out before the 161 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: season started. There were some that opted out right in 162 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: the middle of the season or with two or three 163 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: games left to go. I haven't found kind of my 164 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: own methodology for how I want to factor that into 165 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: their ranking or their slotting. How have you looked at 166 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: the opt out situation, is it case by case or 167 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: do you have kind of a universal thought on how 168 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: you look at it, John, It's a good question. You 169 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: just have to go off whatever information that you have, 170 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: right and just make the best assessment. Right. So the 171 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: players that opted out just have less i would say 172 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: playing experience recently, right, So do you penalize them for that? 173 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: Or if they made an individual decision, do you penalize 174 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: them and use it as a negative mark against while 175 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: like he wasn't there for his teammates or just something 176 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: like that, right with Sometimes there are some of those 177 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: statements again case by case, look at the player, look 178 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: at the information you have hopefully two nineteen that you 179 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: can evaluate, and then you benchmarket versus two twenty, and 180 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: maybe you don't. And even the players that played in 181 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: two twenty, right, Like some teams played four games, some 182 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: teams played five, other teams played ten, So it's not 183 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: apples to apples, right, So you just look at those situations, 184 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: and again you're just trying to make as good of 185 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: an assessment as possible with the like, we can't make 186 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: up the information, right, so just you can only go 187 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: off of what you have, so you just take what 188 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: you have or right, maybe it's a little bit less 189 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: than you might have for somebody else, but that's okay. 190 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: It shouldn't necessarily factor too much into your ultimate decision. 191 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: But again, it's just makes it a little bit more challenging, 192 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,599 Speaker 1: and you know, you just try. They just have less, 193 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: You just have less to go off in those particular situations. 194 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: That's all. I know you were asked about this, but 195 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: I always find it's fascinating need versus best player available. 196 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: And if there's a really good player available but you 197 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: really don't need that player, do you think about dropping 198 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: down because you might need another position group a few 199 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: picks down and you think, well I could drop down here, 200 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: and those decisions have to take place so quickly. So 201 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: how do you handle all of that? Nick? Yeah, Mark, 202 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: it's a great question. So what you have to do 203 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: is you're working through the draft and the players are 204 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: coming off, right, and you're kind of looking at the 205 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: players created at different levels, right, So you're kind of 206 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: looking at supplying demand, right, And I don't want to 207 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: like simplify this to basic economics, right, Okay, Well you're 208 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: looking at one position, all right, we have three or 209 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: four guys here. Okay, if we lose this one, like, 210 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: we still might have a chance if we did this right. Okay, 211 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: is it worth moving back to get an extra pick 212 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: or you know what, I don't want to risk it. Right, 213 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: he's too good of a player, like we have a consensus. 214 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: Coaches like him, scouts like him, Like, he's a good person, 215 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: he's got good traits. Okay, how smarter to kind of 216 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: get too cute? Right, So again, you just have to 217 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: assess the information real time and then just look at 218 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: whatever the alternatives are and then decide, like, okay, what 219 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: makes the most sense at that time. Nick, you mentioned 220 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: it a little bit in your press conference, And I 221 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: know people are on here to love talking about Julian Edelman, 222 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: but I think there's something to be learned from his 223 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: draft in two thousand and nine where he was a quarterback. 224 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: But you guys knew he wasn't a quarterback. You weren't 225 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: totally sure what you're gonna do with him. What sort 226 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: of did you learn from Julian Edelman the player and 227 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: how did you factor that factor that into future drafts? Yeah? 228 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: I mean, look, credit goes to Bill on that one, 229 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: because he kind of had the vision. But I would say, 230 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: it's just you're just looking for good football players, right. 231 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: I think sometimes you get caught up in certain measurements heightweight, speed. Okay, 232 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: this guy lacks length, you know, I would say just 233 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: my experience, and I would say even like in the 234 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: case of the Texans, right, like some of our better players, 235 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: like Brandon Cooks, he's one of our better players. Right, 236 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: I think we all can agree on that. Okay, he's 237 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: five nine one with elite speed, right, Okay, so like 238 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: he's a good football player, right, So because he's not, 239 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: you know, six two two twenty pounds, Like, again, he 240 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: can't get caught up in that, right. So in Edelman's case, 241 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: like he had good athletic traits, and again, you took 242 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: a guy in the seventh round. It's not like you 243 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: didn't know, and he made himself into the player he 244 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: ultimately became because of his work ethic, because of the 245 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: coaching that he received from its position coaches, and just 246 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: his overall willingness to improve and get better. Right. So, 247 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: what you want to see on a play at any player, 248 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: and especially players like that he might be transitioning, is 249 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: this their willingness to embrace that change their willingness to improve. 250 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: And the only way that you're actually going to get 251 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: better is you have to work at it, right, and 252 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: it's not going to happen overnight. And his particular, it 253 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: took him four or five years ultimately to get to 254 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: a point where he was able to have some sustained success. 255 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: But you mentioned it talking to the media, Nick about 256 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: is the guy got to go to work or not? 257 00:12:54,800 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: And how difficult is that to identify as a college kid? 258 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: Is he going to put the work in? Because they 259 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: all need to get better as they get to this level, 260 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: So how do you see that at somebody mark? That's 261 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: probably one of the hardest things to ascertain, right, because 262 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: you don't now how they're going to respond to some 263 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: of the other elements that come along with being a 264 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: professional football player. Right, there's a few more distractions. There's 265 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: some other things that can kind of lead you stray. Right, 266 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: there's more competition, like nobody's on scholarship. Like you go 267 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: from being on a roster of eighty to five to ninety. Okay, 268 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: you get to keep fifty three players on your team, 269 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: and they're twelve on your practice squad. So basically, let's 270 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: call it you can work with sixty five seventy players, right, 271 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: So are you doing enough on a day to day 272 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: basis to account for one of those spots? Right? Do 273 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: you deserve one of those spots? Right? So, nobody's handed 274 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: anything regardless of where you were drafted or where you 275 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: were picked. Again, that's not going to be our mindset, right. 276 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter what round he's drafted in, where 277 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: he comes from, or how he gets here. It's about 278 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: what you do when you're here. And the sooner those 279 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: players realize that and understand that, the better off the 280 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: gonna have the chances they're gonna have for success. Right, 281 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: But you kind of articulated it. That's the most difficult thing, 282 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: and that's you can't measure it and you don't really 283 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: know it until you actually see it and they actually 284 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: get here, right. And that's probably one of the more 285 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: challenging things that you face because you can only rely 286 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: on so much information. He's a great kid, OHI he 287 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: was great? Okay, Well that was in college. Right, this 288 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: is a totally different situation. How are they going to adapt? 289 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: How are they going to adjust and do they actually 290 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: embrace this as a profession, which is what it is Nick, 291 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: where do you see the strength via position in this draft? 292 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: It feels like it's a great receiver draft. Obviously four 293 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks could potentially go top four. Where do you see 294 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: the strength in this particular draft class? Yeah, that's a 295 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: good question. I mean that's like a popular question every year. 296 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: I'd say there's different pockets of different players, you know, 297 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: throughout you know, throughout the certain positions I would say 298 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: have a little bit more depth than others. I'd rather 299 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: not get into, like what certain positions John, but throughout 300 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: certain positions there's a little bit more volume, a little 301 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: bit more depth. Again, you can really hopefully find football 302 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: players throughout. And again, once you kind of get into that, 303 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: you know, fifty six, seventh round, I mean you could 304 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: probably lump fifth to free agents, you know, in draft 305 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: of free agents in the same bucket. You know, there's 306 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: a little bit more hit or miss with that group, 307 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: but hopefully there's enough players to get you to the endpoint. 308 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: And there's probably gonna be some good players that weren't drafted. 309 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it happens all the time, and everybody's looking going, 310 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: how this guy not I get drafted? You know what 311 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: happens every year right, So there's like there's no rhyme 312 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: or reason. Again, that's why the draft, it's just there's 313 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: no exact science to it. It's okay, you can you 314 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: don't have to tell us about the depth of the 315 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: kickers in this draft. It's okay, we know it's great. 316 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: I don't worry about it. All right, pickers are gonna 317 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: be great, got it? Nick, How are you guys gonna 318 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: spend Thursday night? Are you in the war room Like 319 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: it's picks as usual. I'm barring a trade. You don't 320 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: have any picks in the first round. So how do 321 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: you spend Thursday night night one of the draft? We're 322 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: gonna have a staring contest. We're gonna have be bag toss. No, 323 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: I mean again, I think one the good thing for 324 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: us is just kind of go through our process, right, 325 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, set up the team boards. If there's trades 326 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: that happen, Okay, how do we move So going through 327 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: our process, like we can still simulate that and go 328 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: through it and just understand there's gonna be probably you know, 329 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: fifty five sixty ish players that are going to come 330 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: off over Thursday to Friday evening. And again, you know 331 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: you want to be respectful to process, and there's certain 332 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: things that we can do. We can have some discussions 333 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: about maybe some particular players or again, just trades happen, Okay, 334 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: what was a trade? Okay, and just go through the 335 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: mechanics this way. When we actually get to that point, 336 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: whenever we pick, you know, it's kind of seamless, and 337 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: we just haven't sat there, set around and done nothing, 338 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: which hopefully we won't do well. We appreciate the time 339 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: very much. Nick, thanks a lot for Joe. I guess, 340 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: best of luck in the draft. Thanks Mark, Thanks John, 341 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: appreciate it. One thing about a new GM, you notice it, 342 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: and you will notice it in Atlanta and Terry font No, 343 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: you notice it here with Nick Cassario and other places 344 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: where there's a new GM. You don't know their tendencies. 345 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: You don't know exactly the way they think what they're 346 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: looking for. So it's gonna be fun to see what 347 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: Nick and his staff value differently than GM's before him. 348 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun, no question, all right. Drew and 349 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: I got together for in the Lab this week and 350 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: we decided to share some draft stories. Mind dates back 351 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: thirteen years, and if you know anything and have followed 352 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: me for a while. You know where this one's going, 353 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: but it was fun to talk about, nonetheless because it 354 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: has turned into one of my favorite drafts of all time. 355 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: That's next on TEXANSIL Access, TEXANSIL Access, TEXANSIL Access, Welcome 356 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: back to this Draft Night Eve edition of Texans All 357 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio mobile version, hopefully 358 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: for just a short time longer, but we're still there. 359 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: Just read where a third of the Texans are getting vaccinated, 360 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: so we could speed this up. People. We can get 361 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: where we want to go, hopefully by the end of 362 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: the summer, and an RG stadium can be packed again 363 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty one. Mainly we need to keep people safe, 364 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: but that's for a different time. But we will get 365 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: together at Sports Radio six. Ten names I've mentioned before, 366 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: Mark Vana Mere, Andre Ware, Clint Sterner, Sean Pendergast, and myself, 367 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: John Harris, your host Football and Outside the Reporter draft connoisseur. 368 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: If you will talking a lot of Draft tonight, one 369 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: night away, twenty four hours away from starting to figure 370 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: out whereverybody's gonna go. After Trevor Lawrence, you imagine that 371 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson will go number two. You think, so the 372 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: draft starts at three, but maybe the Jets have a 373 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 1: curveball ready for everybody, and it would be a curveball. 374 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: If it's not Zach Wilson, then you will see the 375 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: draft go apoplectic if it goes Lawrence Wilson, And it 376 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: may still go apoplectic at number three, but man, if 377 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: Wilson doesn't go to the Jets, it's gonna get all 378 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: kinds of crazy in Cleveland and throughout the NFL at 379 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: that point. Now, Drew Doherty will not be in Cleveland 380 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: because we don't have a first or second round pick 381 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: at this point. I don't presume we're going to but 382 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: each year that we have first round pick, Drew goes 383 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: to that location. But without a first or second round pick, 384 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: he is not gonna go. He has in the past, 385 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: and we talked about that and some of our favorite 386 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: draft moments from the past, and part of it for 387 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: Drew was getting to go to the draft interview in 388 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: prospects interview and draft picks the Texans have made. Mine 389 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: dates back to two thousand and eight. Here's our in 390 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: the Lab crew with a little il for you on 391 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: Draft Eve. Well, we're finally here. It's the week of 392 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. It's where the guy waving his hands, 393 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: John Harris makes I don't want to say you make 394 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: your money, but you know you make some Hey, you 395 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: get a lot of notoriety. It's kind of your you know, 396 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: your favorite time of the year, your time to shine, 397 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: and it's our time to chit chat a little bit 398 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: about the draft here on in the lab. But first 399 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: things first, how you've been, man, I've been. Okay, I'm 400 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: not gone in my cave yet, so I mean I've 401 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: been at various times throughout this whole thing. So it's been. 402 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: It's all. I don't know, it's it's it's a process 403 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: and I enjoy I enjoy the all of the Senior Bowl. 404 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: I missed going to pro days this year because it 405 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: didn't allow media to be in the building at times, 406 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: and so that kind of stunk because I love the 407 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: pro day process. I know there's some scouts like Prota. 408 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: This guy can't play. That guy can't play. Why am 409 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: I going to Prote to see him? But I love 410 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: that process. I love everything about it. So it all 411 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: culminates this week and finally, here's my here's my The 412 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: only fear that I have Drew is the Texans make 413 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: a pick and I'm like, I got five hundred prospects. 414 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: I don't have that guy on my list. But I 415 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: don't have that guy. Mus where's he on my list? 416 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: M Because if I have a guy raded too low, 417 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: I'll explain why I have Ray to love him ready 418 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: high and that's great. Hey, you know we got somebody 419 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: last year, you know, Ross was I think, and I 420 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: hit him in the top twenty, I think, and he 421 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: went number forty. And I still think he's got a 422 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: good future ahead of him. He's gonna make some changes. 423 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: I think this defensive scheme will help him. But you know, 424 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: probably the best one was Justin Reid, you know, Justin 425 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: headed Humber forty four and then he goes at sixty eight. 426 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: And I remember I got the text from you actually 427 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: that night and you were like, it's Justin Reid, and 428 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, he hasn't taken yet. And I 429 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: went and looked, and I was like, oh my gosh. 430 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: You know, I looked. So he's at number forty four 431 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: on my board and he's been he's been more than 432 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 1: forty four, man, he has been really really good. So 433 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: it's been. It's fun, so looking forward to it and 434 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: hope you are as well. We're gonna get a chance 435 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: to do some draft zooms together live, which would be 436 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: kind of cool. I want to talk now about one 437 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: or two of our favorite Houston Texans draft moments and 438 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: cool for me, there's a clear delineation. So I joined 439 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: the team in August of oh nine, so I missed 440 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: that draft. So the first draft I covered was two 441 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: and ten, and so in ten, eleven, twelve, and thirteen 442 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: I was in Houston and we would you know, be 443 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: in the press box for the most of the draft 444 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: and then we have the press conferences and whatnot. But 445 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: then starting in fourteen, I got to go to the 446 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: actual NFL draft. That year it was in New York. 447 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: It was a last year it had been in New York. 448 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: And then fifteen and sixteen it was in Chicago, which 449 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I still think Chicago is done the best 450 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: job with the draft. That's my personal favorite. Philadelphia was 451 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: really really cool. I like that. In seventeen and eighteen 452 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: I did not go because we didn't have a first 453 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: round pick. That was in Dallas, and I think that 454 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: would probably be like whatever, you know, I've been there 455 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: done that. Nineteen was fun. It was Nashville. It was 456 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: Titus Howard, but he wasn't at the draft. So I 457 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: didn't go last year because of COVID not going this 458 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: year because there's no first rounder. But I've always so 459 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: Houston being back doing that. I think one of the 460 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: most on times I had was actually twelve, and that 461 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: was a year. You know, They're coming off of the 462 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: playoff run and the Texans were. They were super Bowl contenders, 463 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: they thought, and everyone thought, Hey, you're getting Matt shot 464 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: back to go with this defense, you got a running game. 465 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: They've got a chance. They came up short. But they 466 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: started out like a house of fire eleven and one 467 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: before what you know, we all we all know happened. 468 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: They kind of faltered down the stretch. But that offseason 469 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: there was so much optimism and it was like, yeah, 470 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: just take the best guy available. You know, there are 471 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 1: some needs, but can't go wrong. And yeah, you can 472 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: say that about every year. But you were a pretty 473 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: stacked team, you thought. And I remember I'd done all 474 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: the research and I thought, well, it looks like this 475 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: guy merciless who led the nation in sacks, led the 476 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: nation of force funnels he could be around at that time, 477 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: that'd be fun. And there are a few other guys 478 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: that you looked at. And then when they actually took him, 479 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: it was pretty exciting because you know, he had skins 480 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: on the wall, he'd done it at a high level. 481 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: I got to meet him and his family at the 482 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: airport the next morning and kind of, you know, document 483 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: their journey. I shook his hand when he came out 484 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: of the holding area and put the microphone on him 485 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: and said, welcome to Houston. Dot a dot it. Uh, 486 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: it was really cool. It was It was a lot 487 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: of fun. And you know, he's turned out to be 488 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: a pretty darn goood Houston Texans. He's had a nice career. 489 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: But it was fun being a part of that at 490 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: the outset and seeing how that all went down. That 491 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: was my favorite pre going to the draft moment. What's 492 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: been your favorite, you know, Houston Texans wise draft moment 493 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: since you joined the team. Well, my favorite happened six 494 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: years before I joined the team, right, said favorite? Now 495 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: I was skirting around with Dwayne Brown. Yeah, it's okay, 496 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell it because it really has taught me a 497 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: great story and so so for people that you know, 498 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: before I came to Texans, I was at a competing 499 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: radio station in town. We had just started a station 500 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: called fifteen sixty, and we had a lot of luminariors. 501 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: We had Lands Aeroline, who's now at NFL dot com. 502 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: You feel over there, John Granado over there. Sean Pendergast 503 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: was my first co host, and Lance and I had 504 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: been doing a draft for a long long time together, 505 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: and I was always I was always envious. I admitted 506 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: I was envious the fact that he got to do 507 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: the draft live and talk about it live. And I 508 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: was just like man. So in two thousand and seven 509 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: I joined the station. It was like, oh yo, two 510 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, we're gonna do the draft together. So 511 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: I am. I am geek. So we go to this 512 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: place called Nick's Place. We're doing it there. We'll watch 513 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: everything unfold and the two thousand and eight draft, and 514 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: we're just riffing off one another, and Sean's driving and 515 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: me and Lance are just you know, rat tat tat. 516 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: So it's coming up time. But sex is a pick 517 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: and I want to say they traded down if I 518 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: remember correctly, So they moved I think they moved back, 519 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,479 Speaker 1: ran back, so now it's amping up a little bit more. 520 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: Oh yea, that's right. That was for Joe Flackham. So 521 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm amped up, like what's gonna happen? And Lance looks 522 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: at me and he goes and he shows me his 523 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: phone and it says it's gonna be Dwayne Brown. I 524 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: look and I'm like no, because I had seen Dwayne's 525 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: tribal and I was impressed physically, no question, But as 526 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: I watched him, I'm like, kay, this guy's not a 527 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: first rounder, Like I can't believe this. The pick goes up, 528 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: it's Dwayne, but I'd lose my ever loving you know what. 529 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: And because because I could, you know, I was, you know, 530 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: young and dumb and stupid, and I don't know, I 531 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: think it was thirty five at the time, anyway, it's 532 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: thirty six. I don't know who's counting. Anyways, I just 533 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: lose it and I lost it for another couple of days, 534 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: and it was just and I remember making the comment. 535 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: I do remember this distinctly. I was like, you know, 536 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown might go to five Pro Bowls for all 537 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: I know, but I just don't see a guy that 538 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: can really step in and play right away. And etcetera, etcetera. Well, 539 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: I think he's gone to five Pro Bowls. So the 540 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: what makes the story better, I guess is for me 541 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: at least, is a couple of years later, as Dwayne 542 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: is starting to evolve into a play, Lance messing with 543 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: me went to Duwayne Brown in a practice and said, Hey, 544 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: my buddy didn't like you very much talking about me, 545 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: and so I'm like, oh, thanks Lance, And so Dwayne 546 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: looks at him like you know, what do you mean? 547 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: You know? So they start talking and so Dwayne eventually 548 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: so Lance tells a story because essentially after we drafted Dwayne, 549 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: I had a whole booklet of DVDs. At this time, 550 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: he had a MP three or MP four's to watch. 551 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: So I pull out my DVDs and I find Regina 552 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: Tech game. I popping in. I had already watched him, 553 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: but I'm like, i gotta see this. So I'm watching 554 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: a game. I'm getting frustrated watching him, and so Lance 555 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: tells him like, yeah, during the draft broadcast, he's like 556 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: pulling up to your game, he goes, what game did 557 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: he have? And he go and he goes, well, I 558 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: think it was the Boston College game, and Dwayne's like, oh, 559 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: that was a bad one for me. So I felt 560 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: sort of validated in some sense. Well, now, since Lance 561 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: did that, I was like, okay, I gotta go talk 562 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: to Dwayne. So I see him. It's one of the 563 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: night practices. It's a beautiful night. I walk up to Dwayne, 564 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: and Dwayne at this time it's like three hundred thirty 565 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: he is jacked, and I'm like, not a and not 566 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: a fat He's an athletic special Yeah like you, I mean, unbelievable, 567 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: And so I said, um, I said, hey, Dwayne, I said, 568 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm yes. Smile on his face and I said, he 569 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm John Harris from fifteen sixty. And all of a sudden, 570 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: a smile turned to his scout and he looks at 571 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: me and he goes, heard, you don't like me very much. 572 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god, this guy's about to 573 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: strangle me. And all of a sudden, I see the 574 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: sly smile on his face, and I was like, yeah, 575 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: there was a time when I didn't, but you know what, 576 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: I really like you right now. And from that point forward, 577 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: it's funny because I learned. I learned a lesson that day. 578 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: First of all, don't lose your you know one on 579 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: the radio. But I've told Dwayne this, and over the years, 580 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: Dwayne and I got to be you know, we got 581 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: to be friends. And we've talked about that on the air, 582 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: Like we've talked about that moment on the air and 583 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: he's hurt it, which I'm like, oh man, because what 584 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: I learned as a when you have that sort of 585 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: athletic ability and be you want it, you want it, 586 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: and see you've got the desire to go get it, 587 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: you will. And that's what Dwayne taught me was athletic 588 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: traits matter, but so does grit, guile and absolute determination 589 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: because if you put all that together, and and it's 590 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: funny because I use that same sort of thought process 591 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: with DK Metcalf, Like everybody's saying, oh, DK is gonna 592 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: fall Decay's gonna fall him. Look we'll hold on. He's 593 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: got athletic skills through the roof. And this dude wants it. 594 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: He wants to play football. His dad was a pro. 595 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: This is what he absolutely desires to be. This isn't 596 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: about money for him. This is about him being the 597 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: best receiver ever. Those things are going to come together 598 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,239 Speaker 1: and make him a great player. Ironic if he goes 599 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: to Seattle where Dwayne is now, and Duwayne and I 600 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: have talked about that over the years, and like I said, 601 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: he's told me he's heard it and he kind of 602 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: laughs at it. And I hope one day when he 603 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: does retire, he can come back to Houston and when 604 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: we can celebrate him and I can give him one 605 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: last you know, dap up and say I was wrong. 606 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: I told him numerous times. I think I see it. 607 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: Probably the fourth thing goes with it is all those things, 608 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: but the fourth thing, and probably hadn't on the why 609 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: it's my favorite. But it's like, you know, if you miss, 610 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: you miss, you know, say it, say you're wrong, And 611 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: I was wrong. I was so dead wrong. He's turned 612 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: out to be so good. I mean, basically a decade 613 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: with the Texans. He's the greatest offensive lineman and team history. 614 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: Still pumping it out at a high, high level in Seattle. 615 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: That guy. So there's one small there was one small 616 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: appendix to that story. So I think was at fifteen 617 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: or sixteen, and it was fifteen. It was fifteen when 618 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: he got hurt. Yep. So in that game against Jackson, 619 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: he comes out of the locker room and he's on crutches. 620 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: And I see him after I've done my interviews before 621 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: the media gets in there, and I see him on crutches, 622 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: and my heart just bleed for him. Man. I was 623 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: just like, oh, man, I know he wants to be there. 624 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: I know he wants to be in this playoff game. 625 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: And I just was like, I walked up to him. 626 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: I didn't know what to say, and I just was like, man, 627 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,239 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, man, love you, bro. And I just 628 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: walked away. That's all that's all I could say. And 629 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: I think he kind of looked at me like, wait, 630 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: did he say, like, I love you, bro? I was like, yeah, 631 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: I said it, you know, And he just kind of 632 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: styled it, kind of wave me off. He let n't 633 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: know what to say to him, and I just felt 634 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: so bad for him. But he's he was. He was 635 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: a great player here, and he's been a great player 636 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: and taught me a lot of lessons. So that's my 637 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: favorite now that I can tell that story. What, yeah, 638 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: thirteen years later at the time, over the next couple 639 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: of years, is he's turning into a great player. Maybe 640 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: it looked like somewhat of a fool in some sense, 641 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: but I mean, hopefully we've the best person about it 642 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: was Dwayne Brown, and that that also tells you a 643 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: story too, that you know somebody could say something bad 644 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: about you, but you can prove them otherwise and prove 645 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: them wrong, and that's always a good feeling. So hopefully 646 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: he feels good that he proved me wrong. Indeed, that's 647 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: our kind of look back at some of the fun stuff, 648 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: because you're gonna hear about who might be available for 649 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: the Texans at sixty seven. There's lots of guys, there's 650 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: lots of options. Gonna be fun to see what Nick 651 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: Assario does moving down, moving up. Maybe I don't know. 652 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: I would think if it's a move up, it's for 653 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: next year's draft and maybe capitalizing on some stuff there. 654 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: But I'm ready. It's exciting. Draft week is here. I 655 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: know the Texans don't have the first or the second, 656 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: but I'm still pumped. It's gonna be another crop of 657 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: eight faces to add to the seventy eight that have 658 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: come in this soft season. So I'm pump you yeah, man, 659 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: I'm ready just to kind of see where everybody ends up. 660 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: And I think about this a lot during draft time. 661 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: Drews these young players are going through their you know, 662 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: going through the paces, and I always, you know, I 663 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: see a player and like I'm looking at you know, 664 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: my Harris one Hunter right now, and I'm like, where 665 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: does Jalen Wattle go? You know, where does he end up? 666 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: You know, he's a Houston kid, He's probably Piscobal. He 667 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: loves Houston, love the Texans growing up. Where does he 668 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: end up? And they kind of envisioning him in that 669 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: jersey and then envisioning him in that offense, and then 670 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: it comes to fruition, You're like, WHOA, I didn't see 671 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: that one at all, you know, and there are suddenly 672 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, you know, like right cushing like I 673 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: for weeks and months, I was cushing the Texans, like 674 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: I think we all knew it was coming, so you 675 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: kind of foresaw that. And then it came to fruition 676 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: and you're like, yeah, a to bat. But then there 677 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: are some of you like don't see coming and you're like, yeah, yo, 678 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: I did not see that happening at all. And that's 679 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,239 Speaker 1: what kind of makes it fun. It's like unwrapping all 680 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: the different gifts, two hundred and fifty nine of them 681 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: for NFL teams coming up on Thursday. Indeed, you'll be 682 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: at it. We're gonna be live you and I Thursday 683 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: night as well as Friday night and Saturday morning because 684 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: we'll have free draft shows. It's gonna be a good time. 685 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: And then you'll be on the radio all the way 686 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: through the draft. So get the throat lozenges, get the honey. 687 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: Consultant with doctor Vandermer bootleg doctor as we like to 688 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: call him. He's got a botleg m. Das and I 689 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,479 Speaker 1: love good time. Man, It's it's here, and thank goodness 690 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: it is. Drew probably said it best right there at 691 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: the end, Thank goodness, it's here. Throughout the week, I've 692 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: been watching different Twitter accounts put out, Oh, this is 693 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: the day such and such got drafted. This day, how 694 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 1: many years ago this guy got drafted. I'm like, man, 695 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: the draft is late this year and of April on 696 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: into May. Oh I knew. There was a point about 697 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: a week ago where I was like, I'm just done, man, 698 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm ready. Let's just let's do this thing. 699 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: Let's grind it up, let's get all thirty two teams together, 700 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: and let's just do this thing a little bit early. 701 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: Obviously that didn't take place, which good because now we're 702 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,959 Speaker 1: on the same page for tomorrow. We can look forward 703 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: to that and what's going to happen. Now, there were 704 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: a few teams heading into this offseason that you knew 705 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: we're looking for quarterbacks, the Jags one team, the Jets 706 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: a team, the Panthers a team, the Broncos forty nine ers. 707 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: Potentially turns out that they were all looking for a quarterback. Well, 708 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: there have been some quarterback domino that have fallen, and 709 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: another one fell kind of I guess this afternoon, what 710 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: does it mean? We'll talk about the Broncos trade for 711 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: Tedy Bridgewaters. We go round the NFL next right here 712 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: on Texas Taxis on Texas Taxis on Texas Oxis. Welcome back, everybody, 713 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: this final segment of this Wednesday night edition, a Draft 714 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: Eve edition of Texans All Access, reading you for the craziness, 715 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: the chaos, the real that tomorrow becomes Thursday night NFL Draft. 716 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: Where do these players? And up we'll at least know 717 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: the first thirty two, which to me is always I 718 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: always like at the end of the night, going, okay, 719 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: here are the thirty two players that have come off 720 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: the board. Oh man, this guy's still on the board. Wow, 721 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 1: this guy's still on the board. Oh, I didn't see 722 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: that coming. Okay, is there an issue? One of the 723 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: things to keep in mind with this draft, does that 724 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: bring you back in maybe in your whole John Harris Football, 725 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: also a silent reporter for your Houston Texans, studied the 726 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: draft left, right, up, down, all kinds of ways. And 727 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: one of the things that us in the media and 728 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: in the building, even if we're not the subject to 729 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: this information, is the medical information. The medical information could 730 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: play a big role, and that hasn't been as readily 731 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: available this year because there was no centralized combine. Now, 732 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: about one hundred and fifty prospects went up to Indianapolis 733 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: about two and a half three weeks ago and went 734 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: through the battery of tests, you know, the medical tests, 735 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. But it was only one 736 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty combine. It's usually three hundred and fifty. 737 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: So you have a pretty abad on the medical information. 738 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: And I I've had this conversation with a few buddies 739 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 1: of mine. I've read people talk about this on the air. 740 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: I've read some scouts that are now in the media, 741 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: and you guys like Damiel Jeremiah, et cetera. They've talked 742 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: about this. Not be surprised if you see a guy 743 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: drafted and then oh, yeah, he's gonna have shoulder surgery 744 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: or he's gonna have a toe ish surgery or something 745 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 1: along those lines. It's gonna it's gonna happen. Man. Without 746 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: the combine that centralized medical information could create a situation 747 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: where at the end of the night one, you're going, hey, man, 748 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: this guy didn't get drafted, and all of a sudden, 749 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: after day two, you're going, wait a second, this guy 750 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: thought was pretty good. Top hunter picks gone off the board, 751 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: He's still there? WHOA, what's going on? Maybe it's a 752 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: medical situation, not a guarantee, but medical situations always pop up. 753 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: Now a quarterback who once had a very tricky medical situation, 754 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, was in I believe it was his second 755 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: maybe third year with the Minnesota Vikings, and in practice 756 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: just shredded his knee, completely shredded it and it didn't Boy, 757 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: is he gonna come back from that? He didn't have 758 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: rehab I think for a couple of years. Then he 759 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: ended up going to New Orleans. Then he spent last 760 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: year with the Carolina Panthers. They started quarterback there, but 761 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 1: David Tepper, the owner, Matt rule Head coach, very clear 762 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: about the fact that they did not see Teddy Bridgewater 763 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: as the future going forward. They felt like he did 764 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: all he could do with Joe Brady's offense there in Carolina, 765 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: but it was time to move on. So the Panthers 766 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: were looking for a quarterback, and when Deshaun Watson asked 767 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: for a trade, Carolina was the one spot. I felt like, man, 768 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 1: that could be a spot. And there were other teams 769 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: apparently there was that were interested, etc. Well, when the 770 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: legal situation happened, other teams, I don't say they were scrambling, 771 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: but you started seeing different maneuvering. You saw San Francisco 772 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: trade from twelve to go up to three and they 773 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: had to give up a king's ransom to do it. 774 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: You saw the Panthers sitting at number eight in this 775 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 1: draft decide, man, we gotta go get we gotta go 776 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: get a quarterba, we gotta get somebody. We're not gonna 777 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,240 Speaker 1: have Teddy. I don't know if we're gonna get these guys. 778 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: Let's go get Sam Darnald. Now Sam's got two years 779 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: left on his deal. They're gonna wait and see if 780 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna exercise that fifth year. But it's kind of 781 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: a I don't want to say, wait and see what Donald, 782 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: But there's not a huge financial steak in Sam Darnald. 783 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: If it goes left, they're gonna be looking for a 784 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: quarterback again in twenty twenty two. I've said that before. 785 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 1: Could happen. I hope Sam does well. I still think 786 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: the world is Sam and I think if he gets 787 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: good coaching with Joe brady'll get it. With weapons around him, 788 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: he kind of calms his mind and gets a little 789 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: protection in front of him. I think Sam will be okay. 790 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: But the Denver Broncos then as we play quarterback dominoes, 791 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: the Jets with number two probably gonna take well, we 792 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,320 Speaker 1: know they're taking a quarterback, isn't Zach Wilson just it 793 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: doesn't matter really for this purpose is this conversation. But 794 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: they're gonna take a quarterback that made Donald expendable. When 795 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: Donald goes to Carolina, now Teddy Bridgewater's expendable. The Broncos 796 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: called up and said, hey, man, we'll give you a 797 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: six rounder. You send us Teddy Bridgewater Carolina says, got it. 798 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: Carolina is paying seven million to Bridgewaters ten million and 799 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: guaranteed money for twenty twenty one. So the Broncos get 800 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: themselves Teddy Bridgewater guys start in the league. He comes 801 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: to either take the job from Drew Locke, compete for 802 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: the job with Drew Lock, or both of them sit 803 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: behind a rookie that the Broncos draft. And that is 804 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: what makes to me this draft pretty interesting because even 805 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 1: with those two trades, the Jets and Panthers sending Donald, 806 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,720 Speaker 1: the Jets sending Donald to the Panthers, the Panthers sending 807 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 1: Bridgewater to the Broncos, have they in some sense just 808 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: rearranged the deck chairs on the Titanic? Meaning have they 809 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: found the guy the future or is that just sort 810 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: of a placeholder that if things happen in this draft 811 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: and there's a quarterback that falls to Carolina at eight 812 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 1: and they're going, oh my gosh, I didn't think Trey 813 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: Lance is gonna be there, they jump all over it. 814 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: Or at nine with the Broncos, oh my gosh, the 815 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: Panthers because of Donald passed and now Trey Lance is 816 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 1: sitting in our laps. Those moves will not preclude those 817 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: teams from taking a quarterback, which to me makes it 818 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 1: really interesting how those teams are gonna address the quarterback situation, 819 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 1: and maybe they don't even have that opportunity. Maybe four 820 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 1: guys are off the board in the first four. Maybe 821 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: Atlanta makes a deal. Maybe Atlanta takes Justin Fields if 822 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 1: he's there. Maybe now Matt Ryan's contract is onerus. It's 823 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: gonna be onerus next year as well. They're gonna have 824 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,959 Speaker 1: to figure that out. But at some point they're gonna 825 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: have to cut bait with Matt Ryan. They're already gonna 826 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: have to cut bait with Julio Jones. Maybe they maybe 827 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: they make a draft pick of Justin Fields, who's from Georgia, 828 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: Harrison George Joe, where he played high school ball, was 829 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: the number one recruited a country at that point. That 830 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: all said, it'll be very intriguing from three, where the 831 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: draft seemingly starts, as everybody says, if Lawrence and Wilson 832 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 1: go one to two, as we expect, what happens at three. 833 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: I still think it's Trey Lance or Justin Fields. I 834 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: do not think it's Mac Jones. I think it's a 835 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: big smoke screen and then it gets all kinds of crazy. 836 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: What happens one of those teams Denver or Carolina move 837 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: up to go get the fourth quarterback? What do they do? 838 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: It is going to be a blast this weekend to 839 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: see how it all works out. And of course for 840 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 1: your Texans, eight picks on the docket might be less. 841 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: They could pick up some draft capital. Next year they 842 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: might get a few more. We'll see. It's gonna be fun, 843 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Appreciate you guys. Listen to big 844 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: thanks to Mark, to Drew the GM, Nick Casserio. It's 845 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: a big weekend for him, I know, and we'll talk 846 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: to him throughout the weekend. But to you guys, you 847 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: are the best. Y'all follow us, you listen to us 848 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: and toward us, and we can't thank you enough. Producers 849 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: back at six ten, Eddie, you're the man. We'll see 850 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: you guys tomorrow right here on Sports Radio six ten, 851 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,760 Speaker 1: starting at six o'clock. See you then, everybody, and as always, 852 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:12,240 Speaker 1: go Texans.