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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. We'll come up with a poll question. Do

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Speaker 1: you have a poll question before I get to my

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Speaker 1: Runner from Pro Football Focus. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: a poll question, but I'm just curious your opinion. You

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Speaker 1: mentioned in the first segment teams moving up. Which team

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Speaker 1: would be wisest to move up into the top tennic

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Speaker 1: get a quarterback? Pittsburgh, Washington Football Team, Pauli's Chicago Bears,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if there's another one you want

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Speaker 1: to put on there. I was wondering if they're the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Patriots yet people are saying the Bucks might take a

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Speaker 1: quarterback at some point, but I don't think they move up, no,

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Speaker 1: because they're just reloading to try to go back to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl again. Would they take one in thirty two?

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Speaker 1: Maybe just for the future beas you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the future is when you have Tom Brady there,

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Speaker 1: because it feels like Brady wants to continue to play

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Speaker 1: a couple of years. But it's really like the Washington, Chicago,

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh teams that you mentioned. Pittsburgh could be aggressive. Mike Runner,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us again. We were talking about Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love that you get these cryptic comments from the Packers that, hey,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is our quarterback for the foreseeable future, Like

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Speaker 1: at some point they have to decide can Jordan Love play?

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Speaker 1: Because you know, what are you going to do? You

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Speaker 1: don't want to wait till he's in his like fourth

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Speaker 1: or fifth year. But if Jordan Love was coming out

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Speaker 1: this year, where would he rank with these other quarterbacks?

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Speaker 1: I think he'd be in that second tier. So there's

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Speaker 1: that top tier five that's probably all going to go

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Speaker 1: tier with guys like Kellen mon from Tech say and

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Speaker 1: am Kyle Trass from Florida and Davis Mills from Stanford.

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Speaker 1: Because yeah, he's talented, but man, the bad that he

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Speaker 1: put on tape back in twenty nineteen, like the turnovers,

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Speaker 1: Like people are going to make the Trey Lance comparisons

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Speaker 1: with him because small school, big arms athletic dudes, But

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Speaker 1: he just threw the ball to the other team far

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Speaker 1: too much. And Trey Lance did not which the Packers

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Speaker 1: strategy here. Man, if I knew, I would love to

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Speaker 1: tell you. I just I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 1: I think they thought Rogers was nearing the end. They

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Speaker 1: didn't think they were as good as they were last

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Speaker 1: year to be competing for a Super Bowl, and thought

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Speaker 1: that it was kind of a fluke. Now it's you

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Speaker 1: always obviously the quarterbacks in the most valuable position on

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Speaker 1: the football field, and I'm not going to knock a

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Speaker 1: team for wanting to address that. But man, they had

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Speaker 1: he wasn't going to play on his rookie contract if

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers plays out his contract there, which kind of

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Speaker 1: just robs you of what everyone's looking for is that

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Speaker 1: cheap quarterback in the NFL. So it didn't really, in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, makes sense. How do you separate fact from fiction?

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Speaker 1: With what the Niners are going to do, expected to do,

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Speaker 1: organization says, Kyle's not talking. Kyle's not telling anybody. It

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Speaker 1: one that makes it so factor fiction, Like he's going

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Speaker 1: now until draft day because it does not behoove him.

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Speaker 1: Similar to like when the Browns no one knew who

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Speaker 1: behoove him to tip his hand at all in this situation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's not similar, But I thought of Blake Bortles

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Speaker 1: pro football focus great Mac Jones? Yeah, so if he's

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Speaker 1: fifth in the draft class for us, so obviously we

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Speaker 1: would go elsewhere. But like I said, the cheap quarterback

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Speaker 1: is so valuable in today's NFL. The amount of money

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Speaker 1: I'd take Justin Fields from Ohio State. I don't get

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Speaker 1: the massive criticism why he's falling down boards. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how many quarterbacks in NFL history have with his

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Speaker 1: throws ten plus yards down the football field. That's a

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Speaker 1: winning combination. Like you can the blitz stuff, the processing stuff, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's real, but those things can be fixed. But what

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Speaker 1: are we missing, Mike? Because I had a scout tell

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Speaker 1: me three weeks ago. People are over analyzing Justin Fields

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Speaker 1: like we've seen too much. We like the mystery of

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Speaker 1: that's possible to be an Alabama quarterback and be a mystery.

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Speaker 1: Where is Justin Fields did this in front of us? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's almost the NBA Draft with Trey Lances, Like, oh

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Speaker 1: It's probably a guy who's not ready to play in

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Speaker 1: not a lot of guys with his level of tools.

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Speaker 1: You can't teach Mac Jones to run a four to four.

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Speaker 1: being very much overanalysed in this scenario. We're talking to

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Speaker 1: Orlando Brown to whatever, making over fourteen million dollars a year,

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Speaker 1: John Lynch. Will Jimmy Garoppolo, you know, can you say

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Speaker 1: with certainty Jimmy Garoppolo, la, let me let me play

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Speaker 1: that I didn't know that that was you, Eric. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: here's here's Eric's question yesterday to Kyle Shanham. Can you

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Speaker 1: say with certainty that Jimmy Garoppolo will be on the

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Speaker 1: roster on Sunday. I can't guarantee that anybody in the

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Speaker 1: world will be alive Sunday, so I can't guarantee who

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Speaker 1: will be on our roster on Sunday. So that goes

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Speaker 1: for all of us getting a lot of play today there,

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Speaker 1: Eric with the question in that answer, yeah, you didn't know.

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Speaker 1: You didn't know you're gonna have a big start. I

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Speaker 1: did not. I did not. But did anybody follow up

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Speaker 1: and say, coach, hypothetically, if Jimmy is still alive on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: assuming he's alive here, like, um, what's Jimmy's future there? Well,

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Speaker 1: I hope you have your will prepared and everything just

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Speaker 1: in case, Dan, but Jimmy's future, you know, Kyle did

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Speaker 1: go on to say, you know that they're going to

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Speaker 1: have a rookie quarterback. It's a wonderful position for them

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Speaker 1: to be in. You know, Jimmy's won big games in

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Speaker 1: the past when he's been healthy. Um, he's a proven quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and so that's great insurance. Um. However, if he's not

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be picking up the phone when whoever it is,

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Speaker 1: is it the Broncos. He's out a great John Lynch

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Speaker 1: be surprising. However, I think they'd still have to be

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Speaker 1: blown away because I really do they're sincere in thinking

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Speaker 1: we do have a great insurance plan. I mean, Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo could obviously be the best backup in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And the forty nine ers, it's not like they're you know,

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Speaker 1: it's Matt Jones, if it's Trey Lance, it with Justin Fields,

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Speaker 1: if they show they're not ready or if they get

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Speaker 1: we still have Jimmy Garoppolo. They don't really have another

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Speaker 1: viable potential starter, you know, in the quarterback room right now.

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Speaker 1: So it would be like, Okay, if this rookie struggles,

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Speaker 1: it's Josh Rosen. There's a difference there. If the fans

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Speaker 1: social media, but I think overwhelmingly it would be Justin Fields.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's just because they are clear concerns

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Speaker 1: with Trey Lance because it's you know, you can't play

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Speaker 1: Western Illinois, uh, you know, in the NFL. He hasn't

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Speaker 1: played a game since you know, he's played one start

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Speaker 1: no one. There wouldn't be revolting h if he was picked. However,

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Speaker 1: I think just because Justin Fields, he's played at a

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Speaker 1: big time program, he's had the production, he's done it

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Speaker 1: from the pocket. Obviously, he's dynamic, more so than Matt

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Speaker 1: Jones obviously, So I really think Justin Fields the pick.

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Speaker 1: And of course there's been reports by notable national at

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Speaker 1: least one notable national figure saying the person that they

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Speaker 1: will not take us just in fields. So well, it

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Speaker 1: should be fun there, Eric, I and I look forward

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Speaker 1: to Kyle Shanahan's press conference after the first round. You know,

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Speaker 1: I hope we're all live to hear that, but you know,

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Speaker 1: there's no guarantee. Eric, just remember that. I'll I'll wait

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Speaker 1: for your next question for Kyle Shanahan. Well, yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I didn't I wasn't expecting that response, but it was

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Speaker 1: I guess it was an artful dodge, or maybe it

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Speaker 1: was a very dark dodge by Kyle. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it was artful at all. But have fun

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Speaker 1: on Thursday there, Eric, thank you for joining us. All right,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it to care. That's Eric Branch, the forty

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Speaker 1: nine erspeet writer for the San Francisco Chronicle. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't exactly an artful dodge there. It's like, really, yeah, Seed,

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Speaker 1: I love they say you didn't know you're having a

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Speaker 1: big star on today. Hu, that's great. Yeah, we didn't

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Speaker 1: even know that. That was his question being asked there.

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Speaker 1: Don kind of just fell out our lives. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Scott and Tampa, Hey, Scott, what's on your mind today? Well,

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Speaker 1: based on a question we were answering earlier. What war

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Speaker 1: room would you rather spend time in based on the

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Speaker 1: food or the spread that they're going to have during

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Speaker 1: the day. I don't know. I guess Kansas City would

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Speaker 1: be a good place to go. But thank you, Scott. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to New Orleans Saints all day. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what draft pick. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they have a draft pick, but their spreads could be awesome. Well,

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Speaker 1: you still have COVID restrictions on the number of people

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Speaker 1: in the war rooms coming up Yama Club. What if

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Speaker 1: they had cheese steaks in Philly? Who's down with that?

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Speaker 1: Cheese steaks are amazing, so overrated. Oh, now, I know

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Speaker 1: you don't like the Eagles fans, and that's understandable, but

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Speaker 1: cheese steaks. It's not all Eagles fans. It's just the

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Speaker 1: ones that were within close proximity to our broadcast when

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Speaker 1: we were there in Philadelphia a couple of years ago

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Speaker 1: during the playoffs. That's pretty much as the whole building

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Speaker 1: is like that, And they were okay when I was

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Speaker 1: on the podium handing out the Super Bowl trophy too. Well, actually,

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Speaker 1: when you think about it, you did have a very

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Speaker 1: drunk celebrity trying to get on there from Philly. So

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Speaker 1: when who was it? Kevin Hart? Oh my god, this

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Speaker 1: and I can hear him. I don't know it's him

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Speaker 1: at the time. I can hear him yelling that he

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Speaker 1: wants to be on the podium to you know, be

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Speaker 1: up there with the Eagles when they get the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl trophy. And he's trying to get past security in

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Speaker 1: giving me you know who I am? And I didn't

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Speaker 1: even realize I saw Kevin Hart. After I handed out

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Speaker 1: the trophy and went down off the stage. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know it was Kevin Hart who was yelling, don't you

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Speaker 1: know who I am? And I need to get up there?

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Speaker 1: And I realized afterwards that that was Kevin Harton. Yeah, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I see we had him. When we had Kevin hard On,

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Speaker 1: he told the stories like I don't remember everything, you know,

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Speaker 1: to watch his own video back to remember some of

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Speaker 1: the things he did. He's funny. Yeah, all right, we'll

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Speaker 1: take a break. More phone calls coming up, and U

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Speaker 1: let me see anything else I need to mention here

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Speaker 1: I gave you all the information. I guess Julio Jones

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Speaker 1: is still in the market. I would still think this

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Speaker 1: would be great if you the Packers said hey, we'll

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Speaker 1: take Julio Jones. We'll give you Jordan Love. Now if

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Speaker 1: I'm the If I'm the Falcons and it's not real,

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Speaker 1: you gotta get you know, you trying to get salaries

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Speaker 1: to match up here to make sense. But if you're

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Speaker 1: Atlanta and you're gonna trade Julio Jones, you must get

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Speaker 1: a defensive starter back. They can add Kyle Pitts. It's

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Speaker 1: not gonna matter. That just means they'll lose forty two

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Speaker 1: to thirty five. They have no They're defense is what

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Speaker 1: needs improvement. But you're they can't pass up Kyle Pitts.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like But if I if you said, hey,

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Speaker 1: we'll trade Julio Jones to the Bears, we want who's

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Speaker 1: a defensive player that you could get? Ooh, their guys

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Speaker 1: are younger, like a good pass rusher, like a channel Jones.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if he's healthier. Well, can I

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Speaker 1: get the Bears star defensive player back Kilmac? Yeah? No,

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Speaker 1: for Julio Jones. Jones is old for a receiver, about too, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of old, I think. Okay, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but if but if i'm if I'm Atlanta, I gotta

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Speaker 1: get a impact defensive player and then I would consider

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Speaker 1: trading Julio Jones. Yeah, I'm a club. What about um,

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Speaker 1: why not just a draft pick and then draft somebody?

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Speaker 1: But you couldn't get a first round or for him?

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Speaker 1: Could you be the age of the money. Well, I

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Speaker 1: think if you're going to draft Kyle pit it's like

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Speaker 1: gets weird because the Falcons have to decide are you

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Speaker 1: playing this season, like playing to win this season? And

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Speaker 1: if not, then I would trade Julio Jones. And I

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Speaker 1: would consider drafting Matt Ryan's successor. But you know, they

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Speaker 1: got to kind of figure out because Kyle Pitts helps

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Speaker 1: you right now. But if you want to start thinking

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Speaker 1: about let me get that rookie contract in there, then

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Speaker 1: this is the way I would go. But I don't

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Speaker 1: know if Atlanta knows, you know, if it's now or

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Speaker 1: it's next year. Yeah, club know what I would love

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Speaker 1: if somebody traded up it took Justin Field's meaning four

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Speaker 1: pies for Seton o'carter. Thanks for listening to The Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every

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Speaker 1: the Three and Out Podcast. Do you like football? Do

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Speaker 1: a scout. Now I give you my unfiltered and raw

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Speaker 1: opinions on everything that goes on the NFL. And you

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Speaker 1: long time and former pitcher Cy Young Winner and Rick

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Speaker 1: Sutcliff showing us on the program sod how are you

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Speaker 1: this morning? Well, then I gotta be honest. After the

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Speaker 1: Big Golf Tournament went over the weekend. My legal name

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Speaker 1: that was a couple's event and you've seen my swinging,

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Speaker 1: you've seen my game, you know, obviously it's all about

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Speaker 1: my partner and my wife carried us and the two

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Speaker 1: songs that I picked for our wedding that carried her

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Speaker 1: down the aisle were both by Elvis, the Hawaiian wedding

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Speaker 1: song and can't help falling in love with you? Did

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Speaker 1: you cry? Well? I was, weren't. She wasn't going to

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Speaker 1: when our daughter got married. And I know you can

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Speaker 1: I was pretty hung over during the ceremony, as as

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Speaker 1: the week. All right, the seven inning complete game, but

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Speaker 1: the same this year, then it has to be. And

633
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: if they take that away from him, I mean, if

634
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: they give him a no hitter, who's do you think

635
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: Nolan Ryan's gonna get mad? No? I mean the only

636
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna hurt is him and the fans that

637
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: were there that had the opportunity to experience it. And

638
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: then you know how I feel, you know, I think

639
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: the record book is, in my opinion, kind of a joke. Anyway,

640
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: The record for all time home runs is seven fifty five.

641
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: The single season record is sixty one. There's a lot

642
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: of things in there that shouldn't be there. I just

643
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: don't think this no hitter is one that should be

644
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: taken away. Yeah. I just wondered about that because it's

645
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: it's one thing for us to say because we didn't

646
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: play the game at that high of a level. But

647
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if bum Gardner cares. I mean, knowing him,

648
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: he probably doesn't care. First of all, record he doesn't.

649
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: We know that. Yeah, so when it comes to hey,

650
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: it's a no hitter, you can't call it a complete game,

651
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: but you can't call it a no hitter, Like is

652
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: it a complete game? Well, what is a complete game?

653
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: What's a seven inning complete game? Well, then it's a

654
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: seven inning no hitter. That's a complete game. So I

655
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: know we get caught up in semantics there, But you know,

656
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: the new baseball rules, at least baseball is staying in

657
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: the conversation. Then fl always stays in the conversation because

658
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: of new rule changes, and I think with baseball, I

659
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: don't know if it's progress, but it is dialogue and

660
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: I think that that's important for people to talk about baseball,

661
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: and you know it's your livelihood, but you know you're competing.

662
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: It's it's tough sledding with trying to compete with football,

663
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: the NBA playoffs coming up, and you know baseball sort

664
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: of you know hangs there in the on deck circle.

665
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: You're exactly right, Dad, I mean you're you're looking to

666
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: add that excitement and now you're saying, by rule, you're

667
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: gonna take it away. The funny part about it. As

668
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: you were saying that, I was thinking, you know, it

669
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: barely qualifies for a quality start. Yeah, it just got

670
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: one inning more than what that is. And a couple

671
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: of years ago, we were in La Luke, Shambie and

672
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: I and we were blessed m. Jackie Robin, Rachel Robinson

673
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: throughout the first pitch. Sandy Kofax escortitor and when they

674
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: came in, Um, Sandy I known since I was an

675
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: eighteen year old kid back in Vero Beach. He was

676
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: kind enough to come in and sit down with us,

677
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: and I asked him. We were talking to Clayton Kershaw

678
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: was on the Moulton and about the comparison and everything,

679
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: but I asked him about a quality start with six

680
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: innings and three year and runs are less, and he goes, Rick,

681
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: I always thought a quality start was at the end

682
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 1: of the game when I shook the catcher's hand, which

683
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 1: he did quite a few times. He certainly did. Yeah,

684
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: but to your point, that's exactly how a lot of

685
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: things have changed, and I just think we all need

686
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: to evolve with it. Dan, I go back to I

687
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: think it's been so while the old six World Series,

688
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: the one between I had to be O eight Philadelphia

689
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: and Tampa Bay. And if you remember, the Phillies were

690
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: about to win. It was hailing, it was cold. They

691
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: needed to call the game and they didn't want to

692
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: because the Phillies had a one run lead and they

693
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: were going to be crown champions. Because the game had

694
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: gone five innings. I'm doing the game with Gary Thorn

695
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: on MLB International. We get word from Major League Baseball

696
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: they changed the rule during the game. They said, we're

697
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: not going to let it in this way. We're gonna

698
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: pick it up from here. It continues, so you know,

699
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: these rules are constantly changing. Let bub have his note hitter,

700
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: and to your point, he didn't care anyway. We're talking

701
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: to Rick Suncliffe, Cubs Marquis Sports Snettwork analysts. It feels

702
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: like the rivalry has shifted to the West Coast with

703
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 1: Dodgers Padres. That's the new the Red Sox and Yankees.

704
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 1: You got the Dodgers playing well, you got Sho Heo

705
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: Tani with the Angels playing well. Mike Trout baton four

706
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: twenty six Giants tied for first place with the Dodgers.

707
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,479
Speaker 1: Feels like baseball is alive and well on the West

708
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: Coast well. And as you know, Dan, I've been here

709
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: in San Diego since spring training got shut down in

710
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: the middle of March last year. Getting on the first

711
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: plane this weekend to fly back to Chicago to do

712
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: some games from Wrigley, Feeling the excitement here with the

713
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: San Diego Padres. Fernando Tatis Junior, a guy you just

714
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: can't take your eye off. People talk about Manny Machado

715
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: helping Tatis. I think it's the other way around. I

716
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: think that Machado knows Tatis is watching everything he does,

717
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 1: and because of that, he's even taken his game to

718
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: another level. It's exciting, you know. It's just that I'm

719
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: so glad. More than anything I did on ESPN Radio,

720
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: I did the Division series between the Cardinals and the Padres.

721
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: It was here. They played it at Pecco. The Padres

722
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: came back to win Game two. In game three, the

723
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: excitement in the city was amazing. But if that ballpark

724
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: could have been packed, the excitement that Tatis Junior brings

725
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: to a game and what's going on with this team,

726
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: that's the exciting part, you know, with all the good

727
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: things going on right now, the game's just not the

728
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,959
Speaker 1: same without fans. And hopefully slowly, but earn, we're gonna

729
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: get him all back. Okay. Now, I know that there's

730
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: old school and you know when you're era and when

731
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: you pitched. If Tatis did what he did to Trevor

732
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: Bauer and he did that to you, how would you

733
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: have reacted. I'll give you a story. In nineteen eighty

734
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: three or four, Reggie Jackson takes me deep and he

735
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: does something like that, and I mean I literally looked

736
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: at him all the way around, you know the diamonds

737
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: he strolled And as I came in, Burt Blyleven comes

738
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: up and he goes, what's wrong? And I go, I'm

739
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: gonna kill him. I go, I'm gonna kill him. I'm

740
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: gonna hit him right in him out anyway. He let

741
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: me go on inning because Reggie wasn't coming up. And

742
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: then Burt came to me in the dugout and he goes,

743
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. He's gotten me four or

744
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: five times. He said, over five hundred home runs. He's

745
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: earned a right to do whatever he wants. And you know,

746
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, and it's really your fault because

747
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: you're the reason I feel like that esp and hired me.

748
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: Um you remember opening day, I'm sitting in the bleachers.

749
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 1: Sandberg came back and you started Sports Center with two

750
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: former cubs returned to Ridley. You show Sandberg getting a

751
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: base hit, and you showed me in the book then

752
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 1: with a beer, this big jugger and because you said

753
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: at ESPN, go well, let's bring him in. And then

754
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: then you told the story about Grandpa's tie, which I

755
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: will for the rest of my life trying to repay

756
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: you for being able to mention that. But I just

757
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: m I forgot your question. Now. But what you throw?

758
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: Are you? You're not drinking night now right, I'm not.

759
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: I got a little coffee cup, okay. I just want

760
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: to make sure, um if if if tatist did that

761
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: to you, you would probably pop him. But Bowers said, hey,

762
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 1: look I get it, man, I I celebrate, he celebrates.

763
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: It feels like you need a whole younger generation to

764
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: embrace this. Not worried about old school. Never when when

765
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: Ken Griffey Junior had his hat on backwards and people

766
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: the oldest school cool, they were like, they were like,

767
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: turn your hat around. You know you right, Like we've

768
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: come a long way since that. But I just wonder

769
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: if that kind of celebration can continue. Will pitchers allow

770
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: that to happen. Well, then, to your point and to

771
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: go back to me saying it was your fault. It

772
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: all started with the ESPN, and I had to adjust

773
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: because of what Sports Center was doing. When when you

774
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: would start Sports Center, you would start off with somebody

775
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: hitting a home run and doing we're hoping to see

776
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: tatsis and major League Baseball has to be hoping for

777
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: that to bring me young kids to get more. I've

778
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: got my eight year old grandson playing baseball and now

779
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: they're having a ball. We need more and more of that.

780
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 1: But I really think all of those theatrics and everything

781
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: that goes on with a home run. Now the Sports

782
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: Center started all of that, and baseball needs the attention

783
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 1: because we know what's going on with with with kids

784
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: in basketball and football. We got to bring a lot

785
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: more of that our way in any way that we can.

786
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: What would you do with Shohotani. I think for him

787
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: to be elite, it comes down to him being on

788
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: the mountain. I think that it's more important for him

789
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: to be a number one or number two to the

790
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: Angels than it is for him to hit in that lineup.

791
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: This is a special thing. And I'll be honest with

792
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: Up until this first month of the season, I thought

793
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: he was just okay as a hitter. I thought what

794
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: made him elite was as a pitcher. It's it's not

795
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: that way. This guy can fly around the basis. I mean,

796
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: he's just a he's a super talent that I just

797
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: think you have to take care of him as a

798
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: pitcher first. And when you can use his bat in

799
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: the line up or pinch it with him or whatever,

800
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: that's fine. But I just think it's special what he

801
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 1: does out there on amount and that, more than anything,

802
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: to me, is what the Angels need. Yeah, I just

803
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: wonder that is it's going to be sort of half

804
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: in and half out. It's like Bo Jackson when Bo

805
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: played baseball and football and you wondered if he committed

806
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: to one, you know what, he had been a Hall

807
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: of Famer, And I wonder that with Otani, if you

808
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: just said, look, just concentrate on pitching and you know,

809
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: or just concentrate on hitting. I just wonder, try to

810
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: do both. If he's going to be able to do that,

811
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 1: and we'll we'll reach his full potential. I think he's

812
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: got the perfect guy making those decisions. And Joe Madden.

813
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: Joe's such a great communicator. I know you've had him

814
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: on the show. You learned something every single time you're

815
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: around him. And I'm sure that that that conversation with

816
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: with Otani goes on daily. You know where you at,

817
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: how are you feeling everything is penciled in other than

818
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: every fifth day on what his schedule is going to be.

819
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: It's great to talk to your son. Safe travels there,

820
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: and uh have fun. You got Cubs and the Dodgers

821
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: coming up in in uh May, right there? You next week? Yeah,

822
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: please come see us at Wrigley this year if you can.

823
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: M can you give me good seats? You know what? Hey,

824
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: and I can get you great seats, and you know

825
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: Gracie's gonna be there. I'm working with him. I got

826
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: a question for you. Can you know that Gracie hit?

827
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: You know that? Um? You know that David Ross hit

828
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: his last home run in Game seven of the World Series? Right, yeah,

829
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 1: all right? Without going to Todd or somebody on your computer,

830
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: tell me who David ROSSI had his first home run? Off? Up,

831
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: they're in your ear right now. I know you didn't know. No, nobody,

832
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: nobody didn't. Don't help him. Don't help him. Who gave

833
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: up his first home run? A left hander for the

834
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: Arrows on the Diamondbacks, Not Randy Johnson, Uh, Madison, Bumgarner,

835
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 1: Mark Grace. So he came and see pitcher David Ross

836
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: in his first song. Oh, Mark Grays. We were there

837
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: doing the game, and just real quick, Daniel Gracie looked

838
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: to me in the booth and he goes, what do

839
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: I do? I called the pictures for the first two guys.

840
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: I knew him. The third guy come up, David Ross.

841
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: I had never heard of him. I looked at Gracie

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Speaker 1: and I go curveball and he voices to me on ESPN,

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Speaker 1: he goes, I don't have wait. See you're You're in

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Speaker 1: the booth and Gracie's on the mound. I'm in the booth.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell hey. You know I can embellis, but this

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Speaker 1: is one thousand percent the truth here, buddy. I missed you, pal. Hey,

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Speaker 1: great to see you, shut and h thanks for joining

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Speaker 1: us anytime. That's Rick Sutcliffe. He does the Cubs games

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