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Speaker 1: with the King. It's me Carlos kings the King of

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Speaker 1: Twice a week on Reality with the King, we'll sit

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Speaker 1: down with my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our

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Speaker 1: favorite reality shows, and revisit unforgettable moments that we are

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Speaker 1: still talking and tweeting about. Hey rain Drops, Yes, the

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Speaker 1: yeomen of everyone's dreams. Y'all been asking about her, wanting

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Speaker 1: to hear from her. She is my girl, She is

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Speaker 1: y'all fave, and she just so happens to be somebody

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Speaker 1: who said to me.

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Speaker 2: I want to say a year ago or closer.

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Speaker 1: To that, that she was checking out a Potomac and

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Speaker 1: she wanted the show to be centered around Candice Dillark Bassett.

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Speaker 2: So we have a lot to catch up on.

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Speaker 1: Give it up for my beautiful, gorgeous honey friend, Jasmine

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Speaker 1: Henley Brown.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Carlos Lake Jones, Raphael Povich Springer.

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Speaker 4: Walters, Yes, you are the father.

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Speaker 2: Yes, listen, I am the pause father. Yes, Hodey, there's.

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Speaker 3: Somebody who calls himself the Powfather is going to kick

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Speaker 3: your ass. I'm not going to say his name though,

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Speaker 3: because I heard he can be litigious.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't want no smoke with him.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, That's why I'm not saying. I'm not

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Speaker 4: saying who it is. I'm not saying who it is.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I posted a selfie once and said the pop father,

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Speaker 1: and the girl said, that's so Assult's name.

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Speaker 2: I said, I wanted to know that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fine, Like I'll stay with the kid in reality television.

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Speaker 2: Let me let me.

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Speaker 4: Not add anyway.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to add more to my play. But

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Speaker 1: the rain Drops have been requesting you. A few of

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Speaker 1: them tagged you recently. Have you been feeling the love

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Speaker 1: that they're like, bring Jasmine back.

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Speaker 3: I always feel the love. I feel like you have

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Speaker 3: one of the best like fan bases. The rain Drops

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Speaker 3: are so supportive. They've always been really, really nice. There

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Speaker 3: have been a couple of shady comments here and there,

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Speaker 3: but the good definitely outweighs the bad. And you know,

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Speaker 3: I'll pay a bitch dust in a second. So I'm

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Speaker 3: always you know, I'm always your love that I never

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Speaker 3: too ill.

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Speaker 2: I have missed you so much, so I'm happy, miss Listen.

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Speaker 1: It's fun because I'm like, I get to talk to

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Speaker 1: my girl and have her on the podcast and key

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Speaker 1: key and what better job can a brother ask for?

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Speaker 2: So let's get the people what they want.

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Speaker 1: And we're all wearing black because we're morning Candace Dealer Bassett.

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Speaker 4: My kangle isn't prepared, dang.

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Speaker 2: It, Oh girl, Sorry Candace.

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Speaker 1: So look, you once said to me that you felt

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Speaker 1: that the show should be centered around Candace.

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Speaker 2: And the way.

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Speaker 1: We all know where we were when OJ Simpson had

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Speaker 2: Found out Kyle and Marisia were separated.

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Speaker 1: We know where we were when we were realized we

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Speaker 1: can never buy a white refrigerator after Nini Leeg said.

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Speaker 3: Why refrigerator should stew her ass because she's single handedly

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Speaker 3: ruined everything, Like if I walk into a place with

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Speaker 4: Oh no, honey, what is this?

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Speaker 1: So where were you when you learned that Candace Diller

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Speaker 4: I think I was lying in my bed.

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Speaker 3: these days. I wasn't doing much, but I remember being

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Speaker 3: But after watching the parts the three parts of the reunion,

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Speaker 3: Candace does not have a friend on that cast. She

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Speaker 3: So good on you, Candy, Honey.

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Speaker 1: So you watch all three parts Reunion only because you

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Speaker 1: we get into the questionable friends that Candace doesn't have

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Speaker 1: in terms of what you think she doesn't have, how

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Speaker 1: checked out were you this past season.

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Speaker 4: The Austin episode. I remember making a video. It might

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Speaker 2: Prior it went viral, by the way, I don't even.

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Speaker 3: Know what viral means at this point, but yeah, I'll

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Speaker 3: take it. I will take it. I will take it.

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Speaker 3: I made a video about how a comfortable it was

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Speaker 3: to watch them just kind of ice Candace out and

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Speaker 3: I remember watching that, and I remember the Austin trip happens,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, that's a trip that I could call

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Speaker 3: I watched these shows because of the aspirational lifestyles, because

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Speaker 3: with the trips that are just very subpar, I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: No, I think it's hilarious that you and I both

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Speaker 1: stopped watching this season during the autin trip, and it's

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Speaker 1: indicative of the similarities that the audience feels. It's sort

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Speaker 1: I think the reason why our percentage of people did

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, these people aren't real friends.

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Speaker 1: I have shows where some of these people do not

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Speaker 2: But what made our favorite shows.

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Speaker 1: The favorite is because at least they all clocked in

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Speaker 1: and said, look, while we're a part of this institution

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Speaker 1: for three to four months, let's do our best to

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Speaker 1: sort of like, you guys don't like each other.

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Speaker 2: You guys do not want to be around each other.

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Speaker 1: The isolation and the ostracization of Candice bothered me and

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Speaker 1: I and it bothered me in a way where listen,

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Speaker 1: we all or know someone who felt isolated.

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Speaker 2: When we were in school.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you had a parent that transferred you

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Speaker 1: And I felt that Candace represented that person, that child,

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Speaker 1: always thought Wendy was her friend in real life. Do

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Speaker 1: you not think that Wendy is Canvas's real friend.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. No, I don't think that's her enemy.

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Speaker 3: I don't think she's her op or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like they have a friendship of convenience

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Speaker 3: of Beverly Hills. I think Wendy and Candace both don't

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Speaker 3: I was watching the reunion and like watching Candace cry

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Speaker 3: And I think that really does bother her. But that's

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Speaker 4: You don't need to be around a group.

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Speaker 3: Of people who are making you feel the way that

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Speaker 4: Just be done with it.

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Speaker 3: But I do I agree with you. I think Candish

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Speaker 3: and I think she does. You know, we all want

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Speaker 4: You want to be well received and well liked.

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Speaker 1: One of my rain drops said to me, and I

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Speaker 1: would love to get your point of view on this,

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Speaker 1: because I do think he has a good point. Hi

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Speaker 1: Janelle on Twitter, I call him mister Gobadi Bryant because

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Speaker 1: he is a gazelle stand and a porsious stance. So

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Speaker 1: Hi Janelle, I love him, he said on Twitter. And

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is very interesting and I would

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Speaker 2: He said, that with Giselle being the.

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Speaker 1: Queen Bee of the show, that if we want to

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Speaker 1: break it down, Wendy and Candace want Gazelle to like them,

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Speaker 1: and the struggles in the beginning was what you said.

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Speaker 2: We all want to be accepted.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's human nature and there's not one person

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Speaker 1: in this world who has never felt that way. You

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Speaker 1: in every scenario that you're in one of those, you want.

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Speaker 2: To feel accepted.

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Speaker 1: He said that the girls want Gazell to accept them,

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Speaker 1: and he said that when you if you really played

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Speaker 1: And obviously I have been around Gazelle. We have a

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Speaker 4: I don't know when I read it. I didn't read

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Speaker 2: I want this show to do well.

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Speaker 1: However, I am afraid of the future because I too

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Speaker 2: But we have to deal with Ashley.

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Speaker 3: Like you guys like Candice walk Away when she's about

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Speaker 4: Forthcoming, and I'm like, you're keeping her you're.

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Speaker 3: Keeping Giselle, who, like I have said multiple times, is

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Speaker 4: That boy she was playing with last season.

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Speaker 2: He was dating some girl the whole time allegedly.

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Speaker 3: Well I never bought that they were dating for real anyway,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like the stuff with her

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Speaker 4: But Gizelle just isn't willing to give us as much.

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Speaker 3: Like we've seen candases like strain relationship with her mother,

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Speaker 3: But we're stuck kind of with these sagnant storylines and

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the future of Doctor Wendy.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, I think that Doctor Wendy's not beating

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Speaker 4: Anything else from Wendy, because that just felt achy to me.

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Speaker 3: Like Mekka brought it up like we could have been

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Speaker 4: They could have taken it and Wendy was not interested

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Speaker 4: in doing that. It never was.

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Speaker 1: But would YouTube and somebody say your mama was a

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Speaker 1: you talked about my mama being a witch and does

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I could be friends with you, though,

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Speaker 2: Jazz Cluche.

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00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 4: If you talk about mama biscuits, we might have to.

437
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 4: You're you're right, but I do like, I don't know.

438
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 4: I think you just watching the interaction.

439
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 3: You know, when you get to a point and watch

440
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 3: the reality TV for so long, you start to just

441
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 3: we were talking about the psychology of everything. You start

442
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 3: to just watch people like body language and their actions

443
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 3: and like, yeah, the aftermath of what Neka did, you

444
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 3: shouldn't fuck with her, but I do. But like I said,

445
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 3: she's not beating the allegations that she just didn't want

446
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 3: another Nigerian person on their period. Maybe it was personally

447
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 3: personal about Mecca, but she's not beating those allegations.

448
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 4: In my mind, I got your remember Wendy.

449
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: Oh Lord Jesus, this is interesting. I will say this.

450
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Mekka, and I'm gonna tell you

451
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: why to have a three part reunion and you are

452
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,479
Speaker 1: a housewife and you only spoke three times and listen, listen.

453
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 2: That Neca versus.

454
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: Wendy was honestly the biggest drama of the entire season.

455
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: So the fact that it was reduced to a ten

456
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: minute if that conversation, we had three hours of television

457
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: and the biggest drama this season that was reduced to

458
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: ten minutes. I felt bad for Neka because I'm like,

459
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about you, Sis, I know nothing

460
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: about you. And I was like, because of that, I

461
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: want you to come back only because I'm like, let's

462
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: give you another chance.

463
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 2: Maybe.

464
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: But to your point, look, one thing I love about

465
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: doctor Wendy is you never have to worry about how

466
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 1: she's feeling about you. So when she very much threw

467
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: Ashley under the bus and said, how about you explain.

468
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: It because you brought it up, I did.

469
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now you know it actually goes to the Sesame school,

470
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: you know, Sesame Street school.

471
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 2: Child, I actually don't know anything but Barney and.

472
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: You know how to be a TikTok influencer, Like she

473
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,719
Speaker 1: doesn't have the level of you know, intelligence to explain

474
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: that for us.

475
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: Right, So when she clocked.

476
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: That, and when she pretty much told Andy about Mecca,

477
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: not once, but twice, I can coexist with her if

478
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: that wasn't a nanny leak's phrase. When it came to

479
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: how she used to feel about the girl's honey, I

480
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: said hi because need even walking.

481
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: Remember in a group scene, Hi, dath.

482
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: Man, she would do this what Paul and do and

483
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: running across so she could say, I said hi to everybody.

484
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 2: So when doctor Wendy said that this is no shade

485
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: I lack.

486
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: And I said, doctor, to your point and her body language,

487
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: Doctor Wendy wants no parts of Mecca. It is rumored

488
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: that Mekka has been fired. Do you think that's fair?

489
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 3: Yes, because I'm very indifferent on Mecca, Like I don't

490
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 3: care about her as like a housewife, not as a person.

491
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 3: I feel like I always have to give that disclaimer

492
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 3: because it sounds harsh, like I'm sure these people are

493
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 3: fine in real life, but as a housewife, she did

494
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: nothing for me, Like I was so disappointed in her reunion,

495
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 3: like her performance at the reunion, because there was even

496
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 3: a point where they show her backstage and she was saying,

497
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 3: I gotta say something. Somebody's like, you need to you

498
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 3: need to say more. Otherwise it looks like you're just watching, Sweetie.

499
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: You were meet, We were the same, We both just

500
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 3: sitting there spectating, watching the girls go back and forth.

501
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: I've probably talked more to my television. Van Eka talked

502
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 3: to these girls at the reunion. It was a flop

503
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 3: of a reunion performance. And if she got fired for that,

504
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 3: that is just the way the cookie crumbles. That was

505
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: your time to really show up and you you you

506
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 3: didn't and I have not. I'm here for entertainment. You

507
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 3: didn't entertain me. We could move on to the next.

508
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 4: Beautiful gowns though.

509
00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 2: Not a reason.

510
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 4: Oh that was my girl? Okay, ree, what's my girl?

511
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: Ree?

512
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 4: What's my girl? Rest in peace to that queen?

513
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 2: Yes, oh r I p to the queen Utie, Yes, yes,

514
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: yes yes.

515
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: How do you feel about Robin being fired? Smart decision

516
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: or bad one?

517
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 3: I saw it coming with the whole like putting her

518
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: story about wine behind the paywall. Smarter or bad decision?

519
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: Though that's hard for me, you know, I've historically called

520
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 3: her Robin paint Jay Dixon because in the beginning I

521
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: felt like she like she just didn't do it for me.

522
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: But I will say though, her relationship dynamic with Wine

523
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 3: is so interesting that like that's always gonna be like

524
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 3: a source of entertainment. I do think though, if her

525
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 3: and Wine are really serious about being married, it was

526
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: probably a good thing for their relationship because he was

527
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 3: so checked out.

528
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 4: But I don't know. I don't know the juries out.

529
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 4: The jury's out on that.

530
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: Because I think if Giselle doesn't have a Robin next season,

531
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 3: it's either going to be really really good or really

532
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: really bad because they play so well off of each other.

533
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 3: So like, is it good for Robin as Robin the individual?

534
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 3: Probably the best thing? Is it good for the show

535
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 3: if they're keeping Gazelle.

536
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 4: I don't know. Jerry's out.

537
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just said I think Robin being gone is

538
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 1: going to be a wake up call to Giselle in

539
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: terms of you have to foster some relationships.

540
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: I can.

541
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: I can't go another season of having her and Wendy

542
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: not speak to each other. I just I just can't

543
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: do that.

544
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 4: So Wendy is coming back because there was a rumor

545
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 4: that she was not coming back.

546
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: No, she's coming back.

547
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean Giselle, Wendy, MIA's coming back for sure,

548
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 3: Ashley Darby Yep, those are the.

549
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 4: Only four confirmed so far.

550
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, let me tell you something about I

551
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: can't Baren. Karen is what they with the network. I

552
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: think in the production company wants Gizelle to be like

553
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: Karen is when I think of Potomac and if you're

554
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 3: going to anchor someone on the show called The Real

555
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: Housewives of Potomac.

556
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 4: Karen has the connections, she has the intact marriage. I

557
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 4: mean the institution. My bad.

558
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 3: She has the institution, she has the grown children that

559
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: are doing pretty well in life. Like she is what

560
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 3: I think of when I think about Potomac, and like,

561
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: I'm just so shocked at how much Gizelle has become

562
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 3: the face of the show and not Karen but Karen, Gizzel, Mio, Wendy, Ashley.

563
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, that's weird.

564
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: I was gonna say to say, Oh my god, I

565
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: go ahead, you.

566
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: Got That's that's that's really weird to me because we

567
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 3: know that Giselle and Ashley are locked in. They literally

568
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: have a business together Wendy is on an island along.

569
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: You know, they get they get along. They're not friends,

570
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: they get along.

571
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: And your expert Attenion go ahead. As an executive reality

572
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 3: television producer, how do you round out this cast? You

573
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 3: have Karen who's like the motherly, the matriarch, you have

574
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 3: Giselle who's the bone collector, you have Ashley who's bone

575
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: collector junior, and you have Wendy who is just there

576
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 3: kind of on an island. I think, I think when

577
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: these professional life is really interesting. If we're going to

578
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 3: get to see her go to the White House at

579
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: some point, let's we should we should see more of that.

580
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 4: And then you have Mia.

581
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: I think going into next season, if they add no more,

582
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: like let's say they cut this four or five, Mia

583
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 3: is the most interesting storyline going into the next season period. No.

584
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 2: I've said this last year.

585
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: I told them last year to build the show around

586
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: Mia because last season, Jasmine I saw some very into

587
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: resting moments in MIA's life, not this past season. Last season,

588
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: the season where she threw the drink on Wendy and

589
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: I once again I told Mia courtesy of the podcast

590
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: how wrong she was, but it was more so about

591
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: her friendship with Jacqueline and her relationship with Gordon, and

592
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: that to me was like, no center the show around her.

593
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: Because we love personal story. I want this show to

594
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: be centered around Mia. I agree that the network and

595
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: the production company probably want Gazelle to give what Karen gives,

596
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, Karen does give

597
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: off the impression that she wants things to be cohesive,

598
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: and Giselle, as beautiful as she is and as funny

599
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: and witty as she is in Shady Right, was missing

600
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: from the Ninnie Leeks University of Reality television is at

601
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you have to be somebody

602
00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: to rally the troops.

603
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: You're the face of the show.

604
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,479
Speaker 1: You have to be you have to be somebody who

605
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: could come in and try to do it the way

606
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: Kyle Richards does it right on Beverly Hills. She gets

607
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: into with the girls, but fundamentally she tries to get

608
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: all the girls together. And having this cast of Ashley, Giselle, Wendy,

609
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: Karen and Mia is weird is really bad. Ashley should

610
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: be dropped. Ashley is a great person. I'm not judging

611
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: these women as human beings. I'm judging them. What you

612
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: said off of being a reality star. And I want

613
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: people to understand that I'm judging you off of being

614
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: a reality star, like we judge actors for their acting

615
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: role now what we do at home on a Tuesday

616
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: watching Steve Harvey Show, Like we're judging you based on

617
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: your performance. And I don't want to see Wendy and

618
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: Gazelle not speak. I think the only way this trend

619
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: can move forward we have to see Wendy and Giselle

620
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: have a conversation.

621
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: Did it. I just don't think Giselle.

622
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: Has the reach to have a real conversation with Wendy

623
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: that means something. We saw her try to deal with Monique,

624
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: and I remember thinking to myself, this is so fake.

625
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: And the moment they have Monique and Kansas had that altercation,

626
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: that was the one thing Gazelle said, Baby, that's all

627
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: it took for me to go back and not messing

628
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: with you.

629
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna drive this bus all the way over.

630
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 4: Your ass again.

631
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 3: The remaining Housewives, the Jury, Salona, whoever they decide to

632
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: cast to round them out, the remaining five is really

633
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: a testament to like what I have been feeling is

634
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 3: that Potomac has lost the plot of like what it

635
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 3: was originally supposed to be. I think they either go

636
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: all in with women who are like Karen, closer to

637
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: Karen and Giselle's age like kind of in that same

638
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: like life experience, or they just go they skew around

639
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 3: like the Ashley and the Canvases.

640
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:01,479
Speaker 4: Right.

641
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: For some reason, this city in particular has not done

642
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: a good job at just like meshing those two like

643
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: kind of age groups together.

644
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 4: Right.

645
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 3: It feels like actually and Candace Nekka at her in

646
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: there like they are great housewives. Well, Candace is a

647
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 3: great housewife, but they also haven't had like a whole

648
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: lot of life experience, for it's to ftill genuine when

649
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 3: they are with like a Karen or a Gazelle, right,

650
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 3: which is why Karen often is coming off as more

651
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 3: like the mother to these women as opposed to just

652
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: like we're all cast members.

653
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 4: Right.

654
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 3: Giselle comes off like the really mean big sister that

655
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 3: everybody like, it's like my sister, my big sister is

656
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Speaker 3: so mean.

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Speaker 4: I just want her to like, let me go hang

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Speaker 4: out with.

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Speaker 3: You and your friends, right, Mama said you gotta take

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Speaker 3: me too, right, you know what I'm saying, Like it

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Speaker 3: feels like that because they just haven't found like a

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Speaker 3: natural way to like blend these worlds together. And I

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Speaker 3: just don't see them recovering or becoming like a really

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Speaker 3: good show next season with this core five. And I

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Speaker 3: don't know if it even matters who they used to

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Speaker 3: round it out. There's something about this cast that just

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Speaker 3: isn't connecting, Like there's something about them and there. I say,

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Speaker 3: let them do a season without Giselle and see if

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Speaker 3: things change.

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Speaker 4: Maybe Giselle is.

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Speaker 1: The reason no, And I think that's a fair question

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Speaker 1: to ask. Is Giselle holding the show back? I think

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Speaker 1: that's a fair question to ask. I will say this

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Speaker 1: without her having her sidekick with her, it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a big test to see what I saw.

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Speaker 2: In this three part reunion is what you saw too.

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Speaker 1: And she could care less about these girls, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think when it comes to Karen is a history there,

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Speaker 1: and they listen.

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Speaker 2: They're both in on the joke.

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Speaker 1: Like the audience likes us our playful nature, so we'll

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Speaker 1: give you that. But I think what's missing is the

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Speaker 1: depthness of their friendship. And that's what's missing we saw

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Speaker 1: with Nini and Cynthia, right Niini and Portia Nini and Kenya,

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Speaker 1: you know. And I hate keep bringing up you know, Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: but I'm only bringing it up to say, it's what

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Speaker 1: you said. Has Potomac lost the plot? Is Giselle holding

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Speaker 1: the show back? And I think those are fair questions

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Speaker 1: to ask, So rain Drops let me and Jasmine know

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Speaker 1: y'all can read her, Honey, you can, you can't.

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Speaker 4: You can't read me because I'm in such a confused place.

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Speaker 4: I want to say that, right, like some of some

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Speaker 4: of the.

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Speaker 3: Things I've said have like contradicted like my feelings in

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Speaker 3: the past. But it's because I am just as confused

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Speaker 3: as I feel like the network and production are with

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Speaker 3: where to go with this show. Like I'm confused as

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Speaker 3: a dealer. So I'm like, I don't know how to

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Speaker 3: feel now. I'm not excited about the next season. I

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Speaker 3: stop watching this season, I stop watching last season. Right,

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Speaker 3: It's like they always get me, like I will come

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Speaker 3: back for the first first couple of episodes and there's

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Speaker 3: somewhere where I'm.

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Speaker 4: Just like, I don't like this, and that is that

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Speaker 4: is how it's remained for me for like the last

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Speaker 4: two or three seasons.

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Speaker 3: I get to a point, and I'm like, I actually

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00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: don't like what I'm seeing on TV is not entertaining

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Speaker 3: to me anymore. It's maddening at some point, like it's

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Speaker 3: triggering for some people, right Like it's just not a

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00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 3: good entertaining show. Like I'm watching Summerhouse my Visvinyard right now,

712
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 3: like they have petty drama too.

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Speaker 4: But something about it.

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Speaker 3: I'm just like it doesn't feel so deep, Like it

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Speaker 3: doesn't feel so deep that like at the end of

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Speaker 3: this they will never speak to each other again, and

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Speaker 3: it's on site when I see each other, like I

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Speaker 3: feel like with Potomacs, like there are relationships there that

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Speaker 3: can never ever be repaired, like you see them, and

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Speaker 3: it's two ships passing in the night, right Like, it

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Speaker 3: just feels not it doesn't feel good.

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Speaker 4: It's not feel good TV. I don't like it. I'm

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Speaker 4: not I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think what you brought up with Summer

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Speaker 1: House Martha's being here is true because even when you

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Speaker 1: see like Preston and Bria have a moment or Jasmine

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00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: and the girls on that show, it's lighthearted. And even

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Speaker 1: the whole thing with Nick and is he is he weird?

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Speaker 1: Is he a creep is he touching. It's like real

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Speaker 1: healthy conversations, but they're able to move past it because

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Speaker 1: it's not that deep. And I think, listen, I think

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Speaker 1: some of those girls in Potomac are too busy trying.

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Speaker 2: To make TV instead of just be themselves.

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Speaker 1: But if the girls, honey, want to support you anything

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Speaker 1: you're doing or follow you on social media, let them

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Speaker 1: know how and where.

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Speaker 3: There's two ways you can supppart me that would be

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Speaker 3: huge and mean so much. One, I am developing a

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Speaker 3: series me and my Emmy winning friends Antenna. We're developing

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Speaker 3: a show called Camp Inner Child, and it is all

741
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Speaker 3: about a group of burned out thirty somethings, your old women.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna send them a camp for a week. See

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Speaker 3: they can reconnect with their inner child. We're doing some

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Speaker 3: focus groups, so if you want to be a part

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Speaker 3: of the focus group, go to Campinnerchild dot com and

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Speaker 3: then you can like sign up for the email list.

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Speaker 3: We'll send out emails when we're going to do the

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Speaker 3: focus groups. And it's amazing. The second thing is a

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Speaker 3: personal project. It's a book that I wrote. I'm all

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Speaker 3: like it needs to be edited, but it's gonna come

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Speaker 3: out at some point this year. It's called This Box

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Speaker 3: is Too Small, and it's all about the multi hyphened journey.

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Speaker 3: Matter of fact, I'm gonna send Wendy, I'm gonna send

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Speaker 3: you a book because it's all about people who just

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Speaker 3: have multiple passions. And it's called this Box is Too Small.

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Speaker 3: So if you really want to cop the book when

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Speaker 3: it comes out, you want to just join the community

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Speaker 3: of multipiping its, go to this Box is Too Small

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Speaker 3: dot com and then you can also find up for

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Speaker 3: the email list there.

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Speaker 4: And those are my two things.

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Speaker 3: And I'm on all socialists ja Henley Brown, but I'm

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Speaker 3: private on the socials right now because that's just where

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Speaker 3: I am with my life right now.

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