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Speaker 1: Welcome to the ozone podcast featuring Jaguars dot Com Senior

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Speaker 1: writer John Osher and Jaguars executive producer Dave the Candis.

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Speaker 1: This week's Those on Podcasts. It's a full episode about

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Speaker 1: what the Jaguars have done to combat, to deal with

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Speaker 1: to try to maximize their efficiency with a COVID nineteen

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Speaker 1: centric training camp, off season, regular season, We're gonna hit

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Speaker 1: the whole gamut. We're joined by the Jaguars. I guess

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Speaker 1: you would call him the COVID team. Mega Perek our

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Speaker 1: senior vice president and chief Legal officer, Scott Truelock, the

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Speaker 1: director of Player Health and performant, and Cassie at Hell,

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Speaker 1: the associate athletic trainer. Now, ironically, Panel, Nowhere in the

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Speaker 1: job description that I just read does it ever say

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Speaker 1: anything about COVID. Does it say anything about, I guess Mega,

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Speaker 1: about crisis management, but about dealing with maybe this pandemic

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Speaker 1: in as high a profile situation as an NAGY. I'll

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Speaker 1: go around each of you. First, tell me your role, Mega,

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Speaker 1: as it relates to COVID. What's the easiest way to describe? So,

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Speaker 1: I think at a general level, the goal that all

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Speaker 1: of us have is just to try and keep as

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Speaker 1: many people as possible safe and healthy so that we

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Speaker 1: can continue to operate the business. So I very vividly

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Speaker 1: remember when all of this started, because I actually landed

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Speaker 1: on a red eye from Salt Lake City and Scott

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Speaker 1: about to need to make some pretty significant decisions as

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Speaker 1: a business and said, are you coming in? And I

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Speaker 1: was like, actually, I was going to go home because

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Speaker 1: I just landed from this red eye and It's like,

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Speaker 1: I think you need to come in today. And that

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Speaker 1: was March twelve, and the next day, essentially is when

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Speaker 1: we sort of had to shut down our offices in general,

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Speaker 1: and the following week is when we really shut things

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Speaker 1: down completely. We never had to, but I would say

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Speaker 1: that the guess skill that we've had to have this

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Speaker 1: entire time is making sure they're communicating with one another,

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Speaker 1: learning as much as possible, and then adapting as quickly

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Speaker 1: as we can, because every day, every week seems to

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Speaker 1: bring a new NFL memos and new guidance and some

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Speaker 1: things that we've had to adjust to. And it's been

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Speaker 1: that way since March. Now, Scott, your role, I always

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Speaker 1: always think of is dealing with you know, bones and muscles,

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Speaker 1: but this is a completely different thing. I guess you

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Speaker 1: knew early on it was going to be a thing,

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Speaker 1: it's different than it was in the normal past, if

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Speaker 1: you will, Yeah, I mean, obviously we all look at

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Speaker 1: exactly how it was going to impact us or when

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Speaker 1: it was going to impact us. But you know, in

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Speaker 1: my role, it's obviously the health and safety of the

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Speaker 1: players and all the people to work with the players.

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Speaker 1: Um is always the focus. You know, I will say

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Speaker 1: area we have the least control over. You know, Orthopedic

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Speaker 1: the solution for it it involves every aspect of the

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Speaker 1: three of you. I would say, yes, absolutely, And I

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Speaker 1: This isn't the year where you're going to have everything

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Speaker 1: it's so natural for people to want to come together.

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Speaker 1: It's something that we've been encouraging them to do for

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Speaker 1: there's constantly education that goes along with this. UM. You

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Speaker 1: know Cassie did. She serves us our infectious infection control officers,

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Speaker 1: it's gone, but nobody knows kind of how the season's

433
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Speaker 1: gonna unfold. Um, you know, obviously kids going back to school,

434
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: there's gonna be increased exposures, you know, externally, and how

435
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: that affects us. So there's gonna have to be a

436
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 1: you know, consistent mindfulness on all of our parts when

437
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: it comes to our behaviors and patterns and our exposure

438
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 1: for this year, that's going to be continue to be different.

439
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: I'm not sure which one of you should answer this,

440
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 1: so I just kind of put it out there and

441
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: here it feels comfortable. Are the protocols and the rules

442
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 1: you guys have in play? Is it all from the NFL?

443
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: Is there anything that teams can do beyond that? Or

444
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 1: is it all pretty much? Hey, we're sticking to best practices,

445
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: But is there anything where teams can say, hey, we're

446
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: seeing something that we need to do that's not necessarily

447
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: on the list. I mean, I'll answer from mine. I mean,

448
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 1: the protocol was an agreement between the NFL and the

449
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: Players Association, and it is pretty specific across the board

450
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 1: in terms of all those things we can do. There

451
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 1: are some minoring areas of flexibility when it comes to

452
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: how we might be able to test families of staff

453
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: members and families and players. There's a little bit of flexibility,

454
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: but there's still some protocols in terms of what you

455
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: can and can't do. So I mean it really, and

456
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: that was the only way this was going to work

457
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: was to have a formal agreement, which, as you know,

458
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: those things aren't always easy to come by. There's a

459
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: lot of haggling and interest on both sides, but there's

460
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: there is a little bit, but there is. There is

461
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 1: very little wiggle room. And the protocol it is, it

462
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: is pretty strict across the board of how we're to

463
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: function and I would said that John, where there's opportunities

464
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 1: for us to be better than sort of what the

465
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 1: recommendation is from the league, we're doing that. So we're

466
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: making a lot of capital improvements to the stadium to

467
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 1: make sure that there's additional partitions to make more things touchless.

468
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: Some of those are required, some of them aren't. But

469
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, if we can improve

470
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: on something and we're able to do it, we're going

471
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 1: to do it. Um We've also increased cleaning, increased the

472
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: auditing of cleaning, increased security in certain areas because we're

473
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: only the way that the virus spreads. We're only going

474
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: to be as safe and as strong as the sort

475
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: of least compliant person right or our weakest link overall,

476
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 1: and so wherever we can. We're trying to make additional

477
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: improvements so that we are at a minimum as good as,

478
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: if not better than, what's required under legal roles. Ask

479
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: each one of you, Cassie, what's been the biggest challenge

480
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: in all this that maybe somebody who's not in your

481
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: role wouldn't grasp For me, I think the biggest challenge

482
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: is just a new reality of what my job description is.

483
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: I think going in, you know, thinking I'm going to

484
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: be an athletic trainer, you know, kind of get my

485
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 1: feet wet, you know, treat on a day to day basis,

486
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: do hydration field, set up. All of those things that

487
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: I definitely thought were my job description has kind of

488
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: been flipped on its head. So now it's very much

489
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: now you're policing masks and dealing with testing first thing

490
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: in the morning, and you know, handling protocols and waking

491
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: up first thing in the morning to look at results.

492
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: So I think just learning what is a new normal,

493
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: which I think has generally been the biggest obstacle that

494
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: as a whole, you know, in as an organization that

495
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: we faced is just accepting what's the new normal? Um,

496
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: you know, accepting all the new protocols, putting all of

497
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 1: those into place, and just understanding what what that new

498
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: normal looks like for everyone. Is it exhausting? How many

499
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: hours asleep are you get? I'm getting more. At first,

500
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: it was not a lot. I used to wake up

501
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: first thing in the morning, very anxious about the test results. Um,

502
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: so I'm doing better. But it's it definitely is you know,

503
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: you take phone calls all day all summer. It was

504
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 1: you know, phone calls all day, all night into the evening,

505
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: wake up first thing the morning, do it all over again. So, uh,

506
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: sleep is is not as much of a priority as

507
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: COVID is right now for sure, Scott, biggest challenge in

508
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: your world, Say yeah, I mean it's again, it's it's practicing,

509
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: you know. And for us, remember at the end of

510
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: all this, now we have to go back to football

511
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: and the injuries that occurred with football and the issues

512
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: that surround football. And that's why, you know, Cassie has

513
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: been so critical and managing all this part of it.

514
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: So the rest of their staff, Justin and Robbie and

515
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: Rod and I could you know, go through the business

516
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: of taking care of the football team. So you know,

517
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: everything you normally do now has a different avenue that

518
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: you have to approach it from, and you know, it's

519
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: our job ultimately to try to make it as normal

520
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: as we can for the players, even though it's not normal,

521
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: but yet trying to be able to practice medicine and

522
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: progress a football player through a rehabilitation as we normally

523
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 1: would make the same question the biggest challenge, and does

524
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: this still feel like something that's sort of squirming away

525
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: from you every day? Is every day still the challenge?

526
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: I guess, uh, yes and no, and so I guess

527
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: I'll answer your question that way. So in addition and

528
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: making sure that everyone's taken care of physically one of

529
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: the things that I was really worried about early on,

530
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: and I think that as an organization, especially with the

531
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: mental health professional that we have with Dr Franco being

532
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: a part of our team, we're trying to be thoughtful of.

533
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: You also have to care of yourself mentally, So there's

534
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: an added just layer of stress when people have some

535
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: fear of the sickness, either for themselves or for their family.

536
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: You got on top of that, and now we've completely

537
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: changed how people are working and people like Scott have

538
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: to learn how to use a computer, or just challenging

539
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: in and of itself. Um, and then you know it,

540
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: working from home for me has been great and easy,

541
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: but I realized that that's not the environment that everyone

542
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: else is living, and some people are working from basements

543
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: or garages or wherever else they can while also playing

544
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 1: remote school teacher, while also trying to take care of

545
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: family members they didn't have a rise. And then the

546
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 1: sad fact is that home isn't necessarily always the best

547
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 1: or safest place where people especially women and children, or

548
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: there's just higher incidents of depression. And so trying to

549
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: remind people to take care of themselves while all of

550
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: this is going on is challenging and finding the time

551
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: for it. You add on top of that what happened

552
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: over the summer in terms of the protests and the

553
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: rights and the very good conversations and awareness that started

554
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 1: to be had regarding raised relations. But but you can

555
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: see people start to ray, and it's an understandable thing

556
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: that's happening at this point. But so trying to just

557
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: remind people that yes, we are living in a constant

558
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: state of probably heightened stress, for that doesn't mean that

559
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: you have to give up and stop taking care of

560
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: yourself and doing the things that you need to do

561
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 1: so that you can do the best that you can

562
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: to get through it. UM. And then the other thing

563
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: is that you know in March we started communicating people

564
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 1: with regarding the virus. Dr Or and Kaplan gave us

565
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: a lot of really good information that we were able

566
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: to push out early on. But at some point I

567
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: would say that there's definitely days where I was just

568
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: looking at that email thinking, I don't I don't know

569
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: what to say anymore, Like I don't I don't know

570
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: what people want to hear anymore. I don't know what

571
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: to say anymore. And I never thought that had become

572
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: a daily germ blogger, but I did think that communicating

573
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: with people was important, especially as they were adjusting and

574
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: just trying to help people find other things to do.

575
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: So whether it's communication about the virus and trying to

576
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: find the really raw information from the CDC, which I

577
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: think is good as compared to just watching the news,

578
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: which sort of sent people down a bit of a

579
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: downward spiral. UM. So make sure people have rival information

580
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: sources and just feel like even though we're not on

581
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: in the office, we can still stay connected, have information

582
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: and putting a little bit of lightness in there from

583
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: time to time. I want to close with each of

584
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: you sort of looking ahead, Uh, Cassie, as you look forward, Uh,

585
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: is your biggest challenge sort of? I guess keeping the

586
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: players constantly diligent because I guess there's a there's a

587
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: human nature thing of Okay, we've done okay for a

588
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Now we'll get slack. I mean, is

589
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: that the biggest challenge? Is that the biggest obstacle? Or

590
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: when you look at the season, what are you thinking

591
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: most of Okay, I've got to I've got to stay

592
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: on top of X. Yeah. For for me, I think

593
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: the thing that scares me the most is when people

594
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: um start saying you know, quote unquote football is football, um,

595
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: and that that makes me nervous because you know, then

596
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: people stop being as diligent. You know, people stop wearing masks,

597
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: people stop socially distancing. You know, you get caught into

598
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: this season and what it's normal, and and and instead

599
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: of accepting that new normal and being very diligent and

600
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: doing those things that gave us so much success in

601
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: the beginning, they start to fade away. So, you know,

602
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: kind of going back to the re education piece and

603
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: and the new normal that we're trying to create. I

604
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: think it's really important to continue to do that and

605
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: to continue to promote people to be safe and in

606
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: diligent in all these aspects, because I think that's where

607
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: you can start to fall off. You know, when you

608
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: when you start to be content and complacent in your

609
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: day to day you go a few days without having

610
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: any new positive cases and people start saying, oh, well,

611
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: you know I tested, I test every day, I'm good,

612
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: and you know, constantly re educating people that just because

613
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: your test came back negative today does not mean you

614
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: you know you have COVID today. You know you're always

615
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: twenty four hours behind playing this catchup game, and reminding

616
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: people of that and continue to be diligent is definitely

617
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: uh kind of my focus moving forward. Uh, Scott, I

618
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: want to make sure I'm not missing anything from your

619
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: end um anything so far we haven't talked about. It's

620
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: important issue to you that people know about this and

621
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: then you know, again, what do you think your challenges

622
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: will be going forward? Well? I think one thing that

623
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: the challenges We're in training camp right now and for

624
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: the most part regardless of a COVID year, most people

625
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: are in kind of isolated mode and while they're in

626
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: training camp, meeting players, coaches, everybody, min it's just work, home, sleep,

627
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: even if we're not staying at the hotel. So a

628
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: little bit of this was built in for it to

629
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: go well during training camp. So the the concern is

630
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: moving forward once we get into the regular season mode

631
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: and people kind of shift into their regular patterns where

632
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: people are traveling more and coming in. That's, you know,

633
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: as Cassie mentioned, that's kind of our concern. Can we

634
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: continue this more of an isolated mode as we move forward.

635
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: But I think for people on the outside to understand

636
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: is that, you know, just to kind of accept the

637
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: new normal for now. You know, we don't know how,

638
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: we don't know what the new normal is gonna be,

639
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: but for right now, is just to accept. And you know,

640
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: hear the term social distance, and we'd rather a physical

641
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: distance because what we all have to do is learn

642
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: how to connect differently, just like in the NFL. You know,

643
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: we've never had virtual meetings before, but now it's commonplace.

644
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: So we've adjusted in a way we never could have imagined,

645
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: and yet it's going well. And there'll be a lot

646
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: that comes out of this that will look back and say,

647
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: you know, we got better through this process because now

648
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: we have different ways of connecting. So I hope everybody

649
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: understands that you know you're gonna have to you can

650
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: still connect. It's physical distancing, doesn't have to be social distancing,

651
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: but learn how to connect in a new way. I

652
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: know you're involved. We've got trained societies and speak to

653
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people all over the country. Level of confidence.

654
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: Is this a cautious optimism? Uh is gonna work? Or

655
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: is it just wait and see? Or how would you

656
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: describe sort of the feeling that this can get it done.

657
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: I can say we're adopting the approach you take in sports,

658
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: which is focused on today. And I don't say that

659
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: to avoid the future. I say we have our protocols

660
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: and we are focused on today, this week, and very

661
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: the immediate future, you know, because we really we're planning

662
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: for the future and traveling on road trips, you know.

663
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: So I would certainly say there's there's coustious optimism, but

664
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: you know, we we have to keep our focus on

665
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: the day. There there's plenty of for us to do

666
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: right now to make sure today and this week goes well,

667
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: and there'll be a time to worry about the next step. MAGA.

668
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: We'll close with the couple with you, UM, biggest challenge

669
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: for you logistically going forward with this, I guess it's

670
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: just continuing step by step each day or just something more.

671
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: I think that's right. So it was really important to

672
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 1: us to keep our people safe while they were working

673
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: through um the summer months. It was really important for

674
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: us to make sure that things were in place or

675
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: when our players came back, and that we had the

676
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: right both physical and just sort of safety protocols in

677
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: place and cleaning protocols and whatnot. And now we are

678
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: one of seven NFL teams that are permitted to have fans,

679
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: are planning on having fans, And so I do think

680
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: that people, as a sort of the corollary towards Scott

681
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: and Cassie were saying, I think that people are really

682
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: hungry for something fun to do. And I know that

683
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: the feeling that I got when I was watching baseball,

684
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: even based all no fans, was a nice sense of relief,

685
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: or even the feeling of going to wrestling every week

686
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: is a really nice sense of relief to have entertainment back,

687
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: so I'm really hopeful that we're able to have a

688
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: football season, and then when we bring people in, I

689
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: think that as long as people follow the safety protocols

690
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: and keep their physical distance from each other, it's possible.

691
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: And we're doing everything we can to make sure that's

692
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: the case. But making sure that our fans can come

693
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: in safely and that we do that right is the

694
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: next big challenge ahead of us. Is there a key

695
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: to this season coming off from a league wide level

696
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: or is that just a question we're gonna have to watch.

697
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: I think the key is continuing to be vigilant and

698
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: not getting complacent that this thing is invisible. And yes

699
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,479
Speaker 1: we're all back together, and yes we're all going into

700
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: the office, But the easiest thing for me to do

701
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: is just keep my distance from other people. And I

702
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: think that that's one that people sort of underestimate, like

703
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: just start there, start there, and then wear a mask

704
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: and wash your hands. And I know that those are

705
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: the three basic things that we've been hearing now since March,

706
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: but but those seem to be the most effective tactics. Well,

707
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: this is a topic that I'm sure if we dug

708
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: down deep into every topic. We could go on forever,

709
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: but um, I appreciate the three of you doing this.

710
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: I know every day is incredibly busy for all of you.

711
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: The Cassie Tell, Scott, true luck, Mega Prak, thank you

712
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: very much for joining us, and uh, hopefully at some

713
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: point at the end of this season we have another

714
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: one of these where we're giving each other high fives

715
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: virtually and saying great season. So thank you all very much.

716
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: Probably we'd like to thank the COVID Trio, if you will,

717
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 1: for joining us in the Ozone podcast. Dave, I'll admit

718
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: when I first started talking to you about this segment,

719
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: I knew it would be topical. I knew it would

720
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: be informative, wasn't sure how interesting would be. You're dealing

721
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: with a lot of science, and I failed science many

722
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: many times. But I really thought that three of them

723
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: did a nice job putting into Lanan's terms, understandable terms,

724
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: grass will terms, if you will, what they're dealing with.

725
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: And I frankly was fascinated, uh by most everything they

726
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: all had to say about this. I think people will

727
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: be too. Yeah, it's funny, John, when you talked about

728
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: being interesting. So we take this a few days ago,

729
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 1: kind of after office hours. I had the idea of like, Okay,

730
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna Usually I'm the one who records it. I'm

731
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: the silent one and this whole thing, and usually, uh,

732
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: a lot of times I'll record it and just monerate,

733
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: make sure it's going good, and sometimes I will do

734
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: a few other things. I'll look at my phone. I

735
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: found myself. Yeah, yeah, I had my plan a multitask

736
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: and not really pay attention too much, just to make

737
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: sure it sounded good. And I ended up not doing

738
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: any work and just listening to the interview. It was

739
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: pretty fascinating, especially for someone who John You're not coming

740
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: in the stadium, but I am, and he was kind

741
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: of living through it a little bit as we go along,

742
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: and it's just it's just interesting how much, and we've

743
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: kind of talked about this before here is how much

744
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: care and time the NFL has tried to take to

745
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: to get their hands around this thing, and and how

746
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: it's disseminated down to the team level. And I thought

747
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: it was just fascinating to hear kind of Omega, who's

748
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: on the business side of things, to the football trainers

749
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: how much they've kind of put in and put and

750
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: thought about it and try to think about how to

751
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: implement all these protocols. I thought it was pretty interesting,

752
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: pretty topical, and I don't think anybody that works the

753
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: media was good at science or math. I think that's

754
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: why we work work at what we work in. Now. Yeah,

755
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: it's a you're right, first of all, and I I

756
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: think people who listen to this, if they listened to

757
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: with an objective ear there's a lot of criticism of

758
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 1: a college football in the NFL. People like to criticize

759
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: this day and age. It's the Twitter verse. I get it.

760
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: But there was some initial when training camp began. Oh,

761
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: the NFL had six months. They couldn't do a better

762
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: job with COVID than X. I mean that was always

763
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: a it was something you heard people say, and I

764
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: would maintain, you're talking about thirty two teams, and I

765
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: think MEGA did a good job of explain to people

766
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: what this process was. You're talking about a league that

767
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: has to legislate in in what thirty different cities. I'm

768
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: not sure if legislates the right word, but it's to

769
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: come up with plans for thirty different cities with thirty

770
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: different situations in their local area. Communicate all that, get feedback,

771
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: going back and forth, and then there's the reality of Okay,

772
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: you've led is slated this, You've got your rules, which

773
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: she has been the disseminator of the information, if you will.

774
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,959
Speaker 1: And then you realize there's the reality of okay, now

775
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: we have to have the trainer level that's got to

776
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: educate ninety players fifty coaches every day on this. So

777
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think it is easy. You're saying, no, oh,

778
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: they had five months. You know, this is a daily thing,

779
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: a daily challenge. And as I asked Cassie and Scott,

780
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: I imagine they're dreaming about this at night. You know

781
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: when you get so into something that you have necessary nightmares,

782
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: but you're thinking about it at night, and all of

783
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: a sudden you wake up at three in the morning

784
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: and you realize, wait a minute, I've never talked to

785
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: that part, you know. I imagine they're having those dreams

786
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: about COVID. I imagine their dreams are COVID. I imagine

787
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 1: Cassie's dreaming, you know, about having to argue with guys

788
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: in the hall about their masks. Yeah. I just can't

789
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: imagine that this is not a a daily obsession, and uh,

790
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: kudos to all of them for keeping their heads around

791
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: what has to be a constantly changing issue. You said

792
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: that had four months to kind of work on this.

793
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: It's they used it well. I mean obviously when sure,

794
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: what do you see what's going on with college football

795
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: and some of the other sports. You know, football was

796
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: kind of the one that was gonna go last, and

797
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're kind of going at the

798
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: same time as the other professional sports. So far, they're

799
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: making it work. I mean, the statistics bear that out

800
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: as far as positivity rate in the NFL. And they

801
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: keep on talking about, oh and the games start, it's

802
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: all going to change, and I get that it's going

803
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: to change, But they've gotten this thing with the camp

804
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: so far. Their plan has gotten it down to I

805
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: don't want to say zero, but you know, not going

806
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: would let's make sure we don't die jinks anything here.

807
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 1: But I think after what a two and a half

808
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: almost three weeks of camp, it's hard to argue that

809
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: they haven't been successful with camp. You know, Jaguars are

810
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 1: now the one player and the league is the same,

811
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: so I get that there's gonna be contact once all

812
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: this starts. But their idea is to keep cases to

813
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: a minimum and have this thing controlled. You can say

814
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: waiting and see all you want, but I think most

815
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: people thought there would be more flare ups during training

816
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: camp than there has been. So let's wait and see

817
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 1: before we're skeptics and say, oh, I don't never work.

818
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: You know, I've had a feeling since day one from

819
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: talking to different people that that they're pretty confident that

820
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: they can pull this off. Not perfect, but they can

821
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: pull it off and get a season in. And you're

822
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: the morem around with, the more I see what they're doing,

823
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: I I tend to think they will to Yeah. I

824
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: think the biggest thing is what's going to happen when

825
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: the season starts, and like not teams getting together, about

826
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: when teams start off oh and three or oh and

827
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: four and players start getting less interested in football, and

828
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: you know how it gets with teams that are aren't

829
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: very good. The teams keep the players interested and keep

830
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: them in a situation where football still matters. And for

831
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: me to play football, I need to stay healthy. I

832
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: think as long as that's the case and the players

833
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: follow along, I think they'll they'll get it in. It's

834
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: just there's some some other factors out there in the

835
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 1: world that players need to have responsibility about. Yeah, say

836
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: this is sort of closed. I think if every team

837
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: has people like uh, like Cassie and Scott who are

838
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: really the people who are talking to players. So much

839
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: of it is emphasis and mindset and it it really

840
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: feels like, again, you're talking about ninety mostly young kids

841
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: in a lot of cases, who have to be your

842
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: minded every day. But I can't imagine from talking to

843
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: them that it's not first and foremost in the player's mind,

844
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: maybe more so than it was in March. The health

845
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: factors of this, I imagine it's been it's it's been

846
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: beaten into him every day. So I hopefully people around

847
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: the league are listening to those people and grasping that

848
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: it's about more than football. And I'm I'm on the

849
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: soap off, you know. I guess my takeaway from the

850
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: podcast is that, you know, combined with being over there

851
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: at practice seeing the protocols, nothing with this thing. But

852
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: I sure have a better feeling that they're going to

853
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: have a fighting chance to pull this off then maybe

854
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: I did when I was sitting here July tw you know,

855
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, hopefully people take that same takeaway

856
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: from the podcast. I think they will with that in mind.

857
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: I want to thank Dave you can this is I

858
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: always do, for making this thing work. I want to

859
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: thank Joe Fortunado for making me sound better than I am.

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Speaker 1: I certainly don't think this one sucked. I think this

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Speaker 1: one was informative, and I really liked the way our

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Speaker 1: guests today enunciated what is an impossible issue too true

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Speaker 1: really get understandable. I think they did a great job

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Speaker 1: of making people understand what's going on with an incredibly

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Speaker 1: complex issue. I want to thank them, and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to everybody next week.