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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, we look ahead the

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Speaker 1: preseason game number two, the Kansas City Chiefs are in

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Speaker 1: town Friday night. Should be a good test. The Chiefs

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Speaker 1: are expected to be one of the better teams this season.

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Speaker 1: Of course, that is if all the names were familiar,

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Speaker 1: would play if we'll have to wait and see. So

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Speaker 1: how do we get to this point where a lot

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Speaker 1: of the starters don't play in the preseason. Cliff Kingsbury

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Speaker 1: had an interesting answer, tongue in cheek. I think it's

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, episode four fifty five and it starts now.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Griga Loew and

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Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hun Day,

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Speaker 1: Visit Easy Cardinals dot com, Slash podcasts. Going for Hopkins

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Speaker 1: one hand to catch it it much down beon Drey Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolu and Mike Jareckie. So a lot of

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Speaker 1: talk MJ and maybe more talk than usual at least

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Speaker 1: that I can remember. During training camp, what is the

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Speaker 1: best way to prepare your team? For the regular season.

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Speaker 1: We've heard head coach Bill Belichick, well, you have to

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Speaker 1: practice to play, you have to be on the field

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Speaker 1: in order to get ready for football. There are the

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Speaker 1: coaches that take the complete one eighty and say, you

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Speaker 1: know what, Sean McVeigh, my starters aren't playing as long

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Speaker 1: as i'm here. Matthew Stafford will never take a single

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Speaker 1: in the middle for all of this to make sense. Well,

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Speaker 1: coming up on Friday, according to reports, Andy Reid is

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Speaker 1: maybe he's treating it like that third preseason game. I

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Speaker 1: listened to David Culley the other day. He said that

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Speaker 1: the starters will play the almost into the third quarter

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Speaker 1: in the third preseason game. Obviously a brand new head coach,

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Speaker 1: he's trying to change the culture there, so everyone's different.

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Speaker 1: But Tom Brady, he plays in the preseason. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: so obviously it's worked in New England. Other teams believe

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Speaker 1: it's difference. And you mentioned Andy Reid. Here's his quote,

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Speaker 1: We'll go a half somewhere there about with the starters

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Speaker 1: end quote. Of course, that message was then relayed to

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Speaker 1: right now everyone based off of last week and there

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Speaker 1: How much at least a series. I wouldn't go as

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Speaker 1: My guess is a series. If that series goes well,

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Speaker 1: there was an interesting dynamic both Kingsbury and Murray asked

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Speaker 1: about Isabella, and I think they gave two different answers

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Speaker 1: to a certain extent. For Kingsbury, quote, it definitely doesn't

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Speaker 1: help the developments that Isabella is missing these games. Murray,

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Speaker 1: I think he'll be fine. It's been unfortunate. He knows

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Speaker 1: everything in and out offensively. I definitely think he'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: End quote. I'm not as convinced as you are. MJ.

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Speaker 1: Have made that very clearly even before the training camp began.

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Speaker 1: I just you know, two seasons there is certainly a

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Speaker 1: lack of patients in the National Football League. We've seen

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Speaker 1: teams move on from draft picks. In fact, the Cardinals

438
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Speaker 1: did it with Josh Rosen after one season, So it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be a surprise either way. But you have to look,

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Speaker 1: all right, if you do move on from an Isabella,

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Speaker 1: who do you have that's as good or better that

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Speaker 1: you can count on. And that's where someone like and

443
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Speaker 1: Andre Bicelli or at Greg Dortsch come in because similar

444
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Speaker 1: stature catch the football. Can you work on special teams?

445
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Speaker 1: And that would be the conversation if you're the scouting

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Speaker 1: department in front off front office, when you're talking about

447
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Speaker 1: how many wide receivers and which wide receivers you keep? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Rondel More gonna stay healthy for seventeen games,

449
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Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, so Isabella can play on the inside and outside. Now,

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Speaker 1: if Cliff Rehley wants to go five wide, Isabella would

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Speaker 1: be on the field. Dortsch and BUTCHELLI practice squad guys.

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Speaker 1: I don't see them crack in the top six. All right,

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Speaker 1: Let's look at the running back position, because preseason opener

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Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds got a little bit of time. James Connor

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Speaker 1: obviously was on the reserve COVID nineteen list. How much

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Speaker 1: do we see of those two? Jonathan Ward, who was

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Speaker 1: injured in the preseason open or returned to the practice

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Speaker 1: field during the open portion on Wednesday, and of course

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Speaker 1: Eno Benjamin and Tavy and Feast. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: much we'll see if Edmonds and Connor certainly don't expect

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Speaker 1: to see them on the field at the same time,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to show too much, but I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of eyes will be on Eno Benjamin once again,

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Speaker 1: can you repeat your stellar performance against the Cowboys? Now

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Speaker 1: do it against the Kansas City. You're doing it against starters.

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Speaker 1: If you happen to get that third possession of the

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Speaker 1: first quarter or going into the second quarter. Again, I

468
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Speaker 1: think they keep four. I think Jonathan Moore may have

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Speaker 1: the edges because he's plays more on teams, even though

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Speaker 1: Benjamin is getting an opportunity, and you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna show Rondel Moore on the kick return

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Speaker 1: or punt return, so that gives, you know, another opportunity.

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Speaker 1: He's also trying to be a gunner, so he's to

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Speaker 1: me he's going to make the roster. It's a matter

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Speaker 1: of how many are active on game day. So we

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Speaker 1: talked about this last week Bird Gang, about Rondel Moore

477
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Speaker 1: fielding kicks, whether it's punts or kickoffs in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: I know he's working on it in practice during training camp,

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Speaker 1: but I want to see it in a game setting.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm an on an island on

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Speaker 1: this MG because everyone's saying that we know what he

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Speaker 1: can do. It's like, well, do you really? I mean,

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Speaker 1: when the lights are on their fans in attendance, how

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Speaker 1: confident are you that Rondel Moore can do it week one?

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Speaker 1: When you don't see it during the preseason. That's that

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Speaker 1: would be my concern because if you're going to hold

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Speaker 1: him back, that's I need to see before just penciling

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Speaker 1: him in. Now. We did once he was drafted. I

489
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Speaker 1: was perfectly fine with that. He was going to be

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Speaker 1: the guy, and I do think he is going to

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Speaker 1: be the guy. How about we just give him some reps,

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Speaker 1: just let us get let him get his feet wet

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Speaker 1: a little bit, Greig, he's been getting reps for the

494
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Speaker 1: last four weeks training, can't practice different than but he's

495
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Speaker 1: still filling the punch. You're yeah, you're more concerned about

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Speaker 1: you know, when guys are running down the field. Correct,

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Speaker 1: He's very natural at that. He's getting jugs. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much you can simulate. They don't

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Speaker 1: want to show it. I get it. They know what

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Speaker 1: he can do. That they're willing to show a jet sweep,

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Speaker 1: if they're willing to show a wide receiver screen, if

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Speaker 1: they're willing to show a flip pass behind Colton McCoy

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Speaker 1: kind of a statue of liberty, ask I don't know

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Speaker 1: what the harm is and showing Rondell More that he

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Speaker 1: can catch and feel a punch. Well, don't you have

506
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Speaker 1: to find out who else is to back up there?

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just a golden opportunity for Eno Benjamin.

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Speaker 1: You got to find out. Okay, we saw that, yeah

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Speaker 1: on Friday. More. I don't need to see him in

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Speaker 1: the preseason returning kicks and punts. So that's that's where

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Speaker 1: you and I differ. Okay, I get it, But it's

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Speaker 1: not like he's just catching puns twice a week. He

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Speaker 1: does it every single day. I know they got it

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Speaker 1: on film. If they weren't comfortable with him, then he

515
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Speaker 1: won't be the guy. Well, they were comfortable with Andy

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Speaker 1: Isabelle until they saw him in game action. Again, I

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Speaker 1: get that, but I'm just saying, there's let's not compare

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Speaker 1: Rondel More to Andy Isabella. We already we already had

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Speaker 1: that conversation here on Cardinals cover because I was told, like,

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Speaker 1: when Rondel Moore steps on the field, if somebody on

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00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: the side says hide to him, he doesn't say hi back. Okay,

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Speaker 1: he's got a different mentality. He's mature. This guy is.

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Speaker 1: He don't give us cliches. So Isabella's you know, eyes

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Speaker 1: wide open. He played at a small school. Didn't he

525
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Speaker 1: put up numbers? There's no comparison to me on paper.

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Speaker 1: I know how excited that Cardinals weren't they drafted Isabella.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't panned out, but I wouldn't give up on

528
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Speaker 1: being your sixth receiver. Let's talk about the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Justin Pugh of the past two days has not been

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Speaker 1: spotted during the open portion of practice. Rodney Hudson and

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Speaker 1: Kelvin beach And were both giving veteran days off on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: The offensive line, how much do they play with Kyle

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Speaker 1: Murray and or Colt McCoy. But there was some good

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Speaker 1: some bad Week one against the Dallas Cowboys preseason opener,

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Speaker 1: and how well they protected Colt McCoy. I thought McCoy

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Speaker 1: got hit a little bit too much, and then some

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Speaker 1: of the backup struggled, namely Josh Miles did not look

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Speaker 1: good from the tackle position. So I think the offensive

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Speaker 1: line is gonna have a spotlight on them this Friday night. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he had a penalty from Hudson. He had a penalty

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Speaker 1: from Humphries and they've tried to cut that down. And

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Speaker 1: I think if he has Kelvin beach him. He didn't

543
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Speaker 1: have his best game, and I told you, you know,

544
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: he tweeted out a picture back to the lab, so

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Speaker 1: he knows what he's got to do. Clearly, those are

546
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Speaker 1: the starters, but you also got to find out who

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Speaker 1: your depth guys are. You know, I wish Hussein Murray

548
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Speaker 1: was out there. It was Brian Winners was out there.

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Speaker 1: You know, Max Garcia is your backup center and you

550
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Speaker 1: know he also can play guards. So again, once they

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Speaker 1: break camp and we look at that, you know, are

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Speaker 1: they going to keep eight to ten linemen? They want

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Speaker 1: that second unit to be able to fill in if

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Speaker 1: something happens. We know there be a little bit of

555
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: drop off just based on names. Some names to keep

556
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: an eye on that are not kind of household names

557
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Speaker 1: on the offensive line is Sean Harlowe and Marcus Henry,

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Speaker 1: some of those guys that we wouldn't see with the starters,

559
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: but potential backup, especially in the interior at guard and center,

560
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: because right now you've got Hudson, Max Garcia at your

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Speaker 1: center spot. Marcus Henry has also gotten some time there

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Speaker 1: as well, but you want to be make sure you've

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Speaker 1: got a plan B and see especially along the line. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Marcus Henry, he's got he's got some experience at

565
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Speaker 1: that position at least when it comes to snap in

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Speaker 1: the ball. And I would say right now, you know

567
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Speaker 1: between Michael Manette, Max Garcy and Rodney Hudson, So I

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Speaker 1: wonder about position flexibility where if you can do more,

569
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna help you possibly garner a roster spot. If not,

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Speaker 1: those guys could be on the practice squad. Anything we're

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Speaker 1: missing offensively, Demitrius Harris, I'd like to see him a

572
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: little bit more. As far as the tight end room

573
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: is concerned. You know, how much how much separation is

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Speaker 1: there between Max Williams, Darrell Daniels and everyone else, is

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Speaker 1: gonna Ross Travis kind of get into that mix as well.

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Speaker 1: And Daniels was not spotted during the open portion or

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Speaker 1: practice on Wednesday, so that might open up the door

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Speaker 1: for someone else. And then you know, in the second half,

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Speaker 1: do we get to see a little Bernard Psychovitz on

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Speaker 1: a national television and that platform, Well, you know how

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Speaker 1: I feel. I want. I want him to get a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: He's He's worked hard, you know. Obviously the culture has

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00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: been a change for him, and he you know, he's

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Speaker 1: he's a guy that came in raw. I mean, but

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Speaker 1: everything you hear, he works hard. He doesn't make a

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Speaker 1: lot of mistakes, and I think he you know, but

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Speaker 1: the fact that Max Williams has kind of taking him

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00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: on his wing, that goes a long way. Um, but yeah,

589
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: he ross Travis to me is really flashed in camp,

590
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: but more practice squad. The thing is about the tight

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Speaker 1: end position. Really, they're asked to blocking this offense. Yes,

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Speaker 1: an eleven personnel, Max's a really good target down the scene,

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, how many passes

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Speaker 1: are targets are the tight end is going to get

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Speaker 1: in this offense considering they can go four or five

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Speaker 1: wide when they plus the running backs. Yeah, and unless

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the focus for defenses are Hopkins

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Speaker 1: and Green and that middle is open. But you gotta

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Speaker 1: be able to have Kyler Murray with time to go

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Speaker 1: through his progressions. If the left and the right are covered,

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, I'm looking dead center down

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Speaker 1: the middle. But that requires maybe an extra seconds, second

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Speaker 1: and a half of protection step up in the pocket

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Speaker 1: to allow that tight end. If they're chipping first and

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Speaker 1: then flaring out, Gotta think Hopkins, green More and Kirk

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Speaker 1: will have more targets than the tight ends. Yeah, I would,

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Speaker 1: I would definitely agree with that. Cardinals Cover two presented

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. Defensively, MJ, is it once

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Speaker 1: again about Zaven Collins and I's Hit Simmons. Just those

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Speaker 1: two tall trees, if you will, now, all of a

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Speaker 1: Simmons in week one? He said, they thought he was hesitant.

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Speaker 1: very different than Zaven Collins when it comes to physicality

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Speaker 1: But they thought he was a little hesitant. He didn't

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Speaker 1: play a ton. They kind of made a reference to

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Speaker 1: you look at Anthony Barr in Minnesota, where you know,

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Speaker 1: those guys they have to do a lot of different things,

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Speaker 1: and they're hoping that you know, he's gonna play in

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Speaker 1: the slide, he's probably gonna cover tight ends. He can

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Speaker 1: um you know, rush the pasture. Maybe that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: his future, depending on what the rotation is. But they

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Speaker 1: thought he was a little hesitanted in that game. But

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Speaker 1: I would definitely want to see more of Isaiah Simmons

638
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: around the ball, and I thought Zavin Collins really past

639
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: the eye test. Simmons earlier in training camp was asked

640
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: about and I can't remember how he got up on

641
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: the subject. Oh you know what he brought it up

642
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: as far as covering tight ends and covering down the

643
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: middle of the field, and all of a sudden mentioned

644
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: that all he got, uh, maybe you know what it was.

645
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: It was Zaven Collins all of a sudden found himself

646
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: on DeAndre Hopkins, That's what it was. And how Hopkins

647
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: was just like a walk in the park as far

648
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: as just catching the ball in traffic and Zavian Collins,

649
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: you know, you got this rookie and you're fighting this

650
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: perennial All Pro and all of a sudden, he's just

651
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: like it's a matter of fact, just no big deal.

652
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, and now all of a sudden, you've got

653
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: the perhaps best tight end in the game, and Travis Kelsey,

654
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: is it Zaven Collins Isaiah Simmons to one or both

655
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: all of a sudden find themselves covering Kelsey, and that

656
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: certainly would be something to pay attention. Well, I mean

657
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: there are times when we saw it with Jordan Hicks

658
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: and they'll take that tight end or a slot receiver

659
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: and they'll move them to the opposite side of the

660
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: sidelines and you've got to go out there and cover.

661
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: So there's sometimes teams will try to take Collins out

662
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: of the middle, and that's where you know they get

663
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: the wheelhouse route, and that's where Jordan Hicks struggled, just

664
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: didn't had the foot speed. I'll take my chance with

665
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: Zaven Collins out there. Now. When we look at, you know,

666
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: the cornerbacks, we know that the three guys are Byron Murphy,

667
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler, and Robert Alford. And then we think, you know, obviously,

668
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: based on what he's done and where he was drafted,

669
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: Marco Wilson will be active on game day. And then

670
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: you look at Tay Gowan, He's flashed. I guess the

671
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: question I'm asking you, can you go into the season

672
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: with three veteran corners one hasn't been able to stay

673
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: healthy and go and then finish out the roster with

674
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: two rookies at the corner spot. I think the Cardinals

675
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: will try to go out and get another corner in

676
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: you know, best case scenarios. Gawan slides through the waivers

677
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: and you put them on the practice I don't know

678
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: if they can afford to go in considering Alford's injury history.

679
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler, we know he plays all the games. We

680
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: know that Byron Murphy's pretty much out there all time,

681
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 1: I think that's a risk. What do you say, You've

682
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: got two veterans already there with Daryl Worley and dark

683
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: Wise Denard. The problem is Denard has not practiced in

684
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: a long time. So I understand not wanting to go

685
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: in with two unproven cornerbacks as numbers four and five.

686
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: Yet if you add another veteran to the mix, now

687
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: you're keeping six. If you don't want to lose tay

688
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: Gawan because you're afraid if you expose them the waivers,

689
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: some team is going to pick him up, and that

690
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: all of a sudden becomes you know, teams are watching

691
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: these preseason games, and Gallin played a lot in the

692
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: second half, targeted five times I think held his own. Now,

693
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that's on film. And if you're

694
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: hoping to sneak someone through the waiver wire, one of

695
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: these young players, a young wide receiver or a young corner,

696
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: you don't play those guys. You hide those guys. It's

697
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: much different because and the other thing, keep in mind,

698
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: every team has these young players that they hope to

699
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: get through waivers, So you really have to want someone.

700
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: You have to have a scouting department that was very

701
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: high on this player during the draft process and say,

702
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 1: let's follow him. If somehow he decides a team tries

703
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: to slip him through. That always becomes a fascinating cat

704
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: and mouse game here because you know there I can

705
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: give you five names of the Cardinals would love to

706
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: get to the practice squad. Well, the Rams have five

707
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: or six names, the Seahawks have five or six names,

708
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers have on and on. You can't

709
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: you can't pluck someone or keep everyone, and then all

710
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're And it's the issue with trying

711
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: to go from ninety to fifty three. My theory is,

712
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: take Gowen was a sixth round pick, two hundred twenty third.

713
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: He can have five interceptions in the next two game. Teams,

714
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: like you just said, Cardinals know what they have here.

715
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: The defense is very complex. So if they if they

716
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: claim him, they got to put them on their fifty

717
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: three man roster. He's not ready to play right now.

718
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: I mean Marco Wilson, he's going to be active on

719
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,479
Speaker 1: game day, and he was a fourth round pick. And

720
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes they get fixated on the picks, But

721
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 1: I don't see somebody claiming Tay Gowen like conversation we're having. Yeah,

722
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: she'd like to see Ross Travis get on the practice squad,

723
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 1: you know, possibly a couple other UM linemen or DBS teams.

724
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: Feel like I've invested four or five months with these guys.

725
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: Nobody knows him out of them, we do or they do. Yeah,

726
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: it's easy to say, well, that guy, we had a

727
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: high grade him. He was drafted two hundred and twenty

728
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: third overall. I don't see him getting claimed. Well, let's

729
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: hope that is the case. And that's something to be

730
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: fun to why. I'll say takes one team, but it's true.

731
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: But the key is, you gotta now he hasn't been

732
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: in your system and you're gonna put him on the

733
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. Yeah, and it's not just for

734
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 1: one week. It's a couple of weeks. And I believe

735
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: what it's like three week weeks now, So not only

736
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: it's an investment in the fifty three man roster, but

737
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: it's almost a full month investment or a spot on

738
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: the roster. And I got to think if he if

739
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 1: somebody claimed a guy like Gowan, he would be inactive

740
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: for the first three weeks and then they're gonna make

741
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: a decision because he's not familiar with their defense. I

742
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: mean again, I think teams that invested in these undrafted

743
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: free aidents and the late draft picks, and they're investing

744
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 1: in these guys because they know more than anybody else.

745
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 1: They have everything on film. And then there's also those

746
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: teams that look at your week one, week two, Week

747
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: three opponent and all of a sudden, the player from

748
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans gets released and all of us said, hey,

749
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: let's pick him up, or the Minnesota Vikings, and it

750
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: works the other way to try to get some intel,

751
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: some extra information, and there are players that bounce around. Yeah,

752
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: there you go now. But at the same time, though,

753
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: what the way I look at that is, you know,

754
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: I gotta think the Cardinals are going to go after

755
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: a veteran corner, somebody that gets released that's been in

756
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: the league four years, so all of a sudden, you

757
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: know they can bring him in versus the waiver wire,

758
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: and you know it's always touchy on that stuff. So

759
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: that's different. Though they have a great on the guy,

760
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: maybe when he came out of the draft. Their scouts

761
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: are at all these preseason games and againting you're asking

762
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: him to come in here and be the fifth wider

763
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: or fifth corner. And it's really for more insurance if

764
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: something happens to your top three guys. Obviously Marco Wilson

765
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: will be your first guy up. But I just don't

766
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: know if you can afford to go with three veteran

767
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: guys and two rookies at that position. Well, you're also

768
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: a factor in the safety position. Buddha Baker, Jalen Thompson,

769
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: Deante Thompson, Chris Banjo, who's been hurt for the past

770
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: couple of days, Charles Washington, Shawn Williams. Washington and Williams

771
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: right there, there are two veterans safety position that are

772
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: also huge contributors on special teams. And do you add

773
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,479
Speaker 1: an extra safety because they can also do some cover

774
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: or you disguise things differently in the secondary, and then

775
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: of course Isaiah Simmons' ability to cover, maybe you don't

776
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: need an extra or overload the cornerback position. Sean Williams

777
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: was clearly a special teams player in Cincinnati. You know

778
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: James Wiggins, he was a He was a seventh round

779
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: pick win two forty three. He had a couple of

780
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 1: tackles on special teams. Now, can you slide him over?

781
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: But what else is Sean Williams going to provide? Can

782
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: he play a more safety or is he strictly a

783
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: special teams player? And that's a veteran guy versus you know,

784
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: developing a rookie. Again, I don't you start looking at

785
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: Gowen Wiggins and Michael Manette. I think those are three

786
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: guys that would say, possibly slide to the practice squad.

787
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: Let's touch on the defensive line real quick. As far

788
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: as players we hope to see, obviously, like he fowed

789
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: two missed the opener because he was on the reserve

790
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen lists as a close contact, Zach Allen is

791
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: back practicing, Michael Dogby and Josh Morrell who was just

792
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: added along with Jack Crawford and Marcus Hunt. Can those

793
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 1: players you know there'll be some valuable reps out there,

794
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: but I am curious to see now as Zach Allen

795
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 1: a lucky Poe too, and maybe more of Michael Dogby.

796
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: We keep bringing up Dogby because if you look at

797
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: the rotation, if you keep seven defensive linemen, can Dogby

798
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: be that seventh or do you go lighter at defensive line?

799
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: And then hopefully no one claims Dogby and you can

800
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: bring him back on the practice squad. But how much

801
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 1: of the defensive line specifically we saw basically two down

802
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: linemen against the Cowboys. Do we see three down linemen

803
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. And I think a lot of that

804
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: will just be depending on numbers, who's healthy, and if

805
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: you don't have the numbers to play three, then all

806
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: of a sudden it becomes all right, well it's vote two,

807
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: it's Allen, it's Dogby. It's a rotation there as far

808
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: as who's going to play the first quarter, first half

809
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: versus the second half, even though you know their top

810
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: four or five defensive linemen are not going to play.

811
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: And stayed on with J. J. Watt and Jordan Phillips

812
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: and Corey Peters and Richard Lawrence. I'm probably Zach Allen's back.

813
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: I think I think they can roll off three linemen

814
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: this week, just based on the three guys they've added, Dogbye,

815
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: Lecky and Zach Allen, where a couple of weeks ago

816
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: weren't having this conversation, Zack almost missing time, Lecky was

817
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: in COVID protocol. So I mean, I know we're seeing

818
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: I would give Michael Dogby a lot of reps because

819
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: he looks stronger, he looks to part and if he's

820
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: going to be part of the rotation, you know when

821
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: it comes to he's not going to be in side.

822
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: He's more of an outside guy. Where you got you know,

823
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: you got a lot of meat and potatoes when you

824
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: talk about Lucky Foe two and Richard Lawrence and Corey Peters.

825
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: So Dogby's a guy that can push the pocket. I

826
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: think he's developed. I like the way he practices. So

827
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: but I do think this week, even though they had

828
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: the same players last week, but we didn't have a

829
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: couple of guys we just mentioned. I do think they

830
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: can still go with a three lineman, but we have

831
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: seen him two linemen and then bringing a couple of

832
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: pass rushers or at least linebackers. Does the fact that

833
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 1: it's the Chiefs and what they do offensively, maybe three

834
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: down lineman is not what you want because maybe they

835
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: put more wide receivers, more tight ends, more running backs

836
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: than all of a sudden, it becomes more about the

837
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: passing attack and you just want to make sure you

838
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: cover the middle with two versus three down lineman. Yeah,

839
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's again, I don't think they're going to

840
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: show a lot, but that's a good point. And if

841
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: they come out in three and four wide, then you know,

842
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: obviously you're going to see two defensive lineman. The Cardinals

843
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: got to bring in their nickel or dime package, which

844
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: is based four five defensive backs and probably at least

845
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: three to four linebackers. Preseason game number two Friday against

846
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. The roster move most recent roster

847
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: move as we talk here on Wednesday, August eighteenth, What

848
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 1: did you make the Cardinals being awarded a waiver claim

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Speaker 1: on punter y Ryan Winslow, whom for Cardinal fans remember

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Speaker 1: he was with the team back in two nineteen six

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Speaker 1: punts over two games, including two punts inside the twenty

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Speaker 1: yard line. Ryan Winslow is on the roster and Tyler

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Speaker 1: Newsome has been released, So Andy Lee, I think is

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Speaker 1: still your punter, but an interest he moved to get

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Speaker 1: Ryan Winslow back in a Cardinals uniform. Don't know what

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Speaker 1: exactly they had planned for him, but I did find

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Speaker 1: it interesting that well, I'll say this, Tyler Newsom has

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Speaker 1: a strong lead. It was just a very erratic and

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Speaker 1: we saw that on Friday night against the Cowboys, he

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Speaker 1: he shanked a punt and luckily for him, he got

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Speaker 1: a twenty five thirty yard roll and it looked a

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Speaker 1: lot better better than what it was. So maybe that's

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Speaker 1: all it was. Yeah, I mean Winslow, he was with

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Speaker 1: the Packers. He has a strong leg, and you know

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Speaker 1: Andy Lee was in the same draft class Larry Fitzgerald,

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Speaker 1: and you know he's getting up there. But he's been

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Speaker 1: very consistent over the years. I think he took a

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Speaker 1: step back last year and a couple of different things.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't coverage, juniors, et cetera, but put him

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Speaker 1: on the practice squad. Something happens to Andy Lee during

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Speaker 1: the season. At least you can have a guy in

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Speaker 1: a pinch where you're not signing a guy off the street,

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Speaker 1: and he's familiar with Jeff Rogers and when it comes

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Speaker 1: to directional kicking, So I anticipate we're going to see

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Speaker 1: him obviously punt over the next couple of games. But

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Speaker 1: I think it's more of an insurance policy because again

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Speaker 1: Andy Lee, you always worry about, you know, hamstrings and groans.

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Speaker 1: But you gotta give him credit because he's always been there.

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Speaker 1: Every Sunday. By the way, Winslow is also a pit guy.

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Speaker 1: Pit guy. Yeah, so both punchers from the University of Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: Not just an unusual fact, it's just a cool incidence.

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Speaker 1: But found it interesting. I didn't even know he was

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Speaker 1: on the Packers. Well, he was on the practice squad

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Speaker 1: for much for part of the regular season and of

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Speaker 1: course during the postseason. So Ryan Winslow is back with

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cards. All right, m J. What wait? What

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Speaker 1: we miss? What? What the what does the bird gang

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Speaker 1: need to see or pay attention to? Or do we

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Speaker 1: do we cover it all here? Well we can sit

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Speaker 1: I think we covered it. Um. You know, it's just

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Speaker 1: literally it's the who's the fifth and sixth corner? Who's

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Speaker 1: the sixth seventh receiver? You know? Is it Picelli? Is Wesley?

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Speaker 1: You know? I think Keshan and he Isabella. So you're

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Speaker 1: really looking at the back end of the roster to

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Speaker 1: where is this guy a fifty three guy or is

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Speaker 1: he a practice squad based on him? Clear and waivers

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Speaker 1: another opportunity for live reps and another opportunity to put

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Speaker 1: some good film out there, especially for those players on

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Speaker 1: the back end of the roster. Five pm is the

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Speaker 1: kickoff the Kansas City Chiefs in town at State Farm Stadium,

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Speaker 1: and of course, coverage on the Arizona Cardinals Radio network

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Speaker 1: begins at one at thirty and then following that game,

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Speaker 1: we'll be able to talk about it right here on

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two. And on that note, let's put a

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