WEBVTT - Bart Scott & Leger Douzable Discuss the Jets' Change at Quarterback (11/21) 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.800 Official Jets Podcast is presented by win Bet. Betty's a 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:09.600 team sport, but together win Bet Eric own here at 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:13.760 one Jets Drive. We got leg Duza Bowls joining us 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:17.920 from parts unknown maybe Florida. And then Bart Scott is 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:20.920 in Maryland Baltimore today, Is that correct? 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:25.880 Bart? A lot of kids feeding the kids, well not 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:31.360 the kids, oh man, my bat kids. Tonight, men and women, 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:32.040 was last night? 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:37.000 Plans for Thanksgiving? Fellas work. 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:38.680 I gotta be in the studio. 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.199 Yeah, I'll be working. I gotta get up in first dake. 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.040 Yeah all right, No rest of the weary baby, no 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:46.239 rest of the weary Hey. 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:48.080 Yeah, we got we got a CBS game, so I 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:49.360 gotta I gotta be in the studio. 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:52.120 Listen, we are blessed to be able to work in 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.160 the National Football League. Don't have too much turkey, though, 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.360 because I don't want either one of you guys falling 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:58.920 asleep after that trip to fan. 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.080 Now, I'm gonna say I'm gonna eat after after our work. 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.600 All right, let's get to the big news here. The 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:10.840 Jets make a quarterback change. Tim Boyle will start in 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:14.919 the NFL's first ever Black Friday game as the Jets 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:19.480 resume play against the Miami Dolphins here this weekend. Bart, 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:21.760 your thoughts on Robert Solad's decision. 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:24.960 I mean, I think it was a once you Once 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:29.280 you put Tim Boyle in a game, we knew that 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:32.759 it was. It symbolized a bigger story to the end. 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:35.000 I thought that when he did get in, the ball 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:37.360 came out on time. They weren't in sync. 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:37.800 You know. 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:41.080 You think about the hot route with with Dalvin Cook. 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:43.919 You know, maybe we can get some of that magic 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.280 that we had last year when we put in veterans 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.760 and just seeing the field ball coming out early. 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.920 Quick decisions, allowing our playmakers to make some play. 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:57.040 I've been screaming for the Pony package probably for five weeks, 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:58.600 so much so that you know, they put a whole 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.440 package to me in different suits talking about the Pony package. 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:03.920 I thought they used it effectively, but then they went 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.120 away from it. I think that's one of the best 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.200 personnel groups, and they have to find a way to 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.320 keep Bruce hal and Dalvin Cook out there. At the 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:13.640 same time. It's so many things you can do. Double screens, 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.720 you can you know, fake the handoff with the swing 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:20.000 route behind with the other guy, split backs go behind 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:21.120 you got will Rows. 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:25.079 We saw him using effectively last year Micael Carter as 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:25.920 the lead blocker. 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:27.680 So many different things you can do out of that 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:31.040 double screens, chipping on the way out, helping out the tackles. 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.080 So hopefully, you know, now with the with a quarterback 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.919 that's a little bit more veteran, that seems to feel better, 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:40.560 the timing is better in the offense, maybe we can 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.240 you know, keep pace and try to make sure that 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:45.720 that defense continues to perform the way it is that 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:47.720 we can capitalize on that great difference play. 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:49.960 Dudes, give me the scoutary report on Boyle. 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:51.960 He's the guy who's bounced around quite a bit, but 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.120 he's got familiarity with the system and the other thing 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.120 that Bart said about getting the ball out quicker. I 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:01.040 know the Jets have struggled mightily on the offensive side 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:04.320 of the ball this year, but they're eighteenth in yards 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:07.920 per play when that ball comes out within two and 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.720 a half seconds. And well, from what I've seen of 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.960 Boil is that he's gonna get rid of the rock. 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:18.240 Yeah, he's got an interesting story right started at Yukon, 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.680 then went to Eastern Kentucky. It's just weird because if 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.000 you look at his numbers, you would be like, I mean, 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:29.200 this guy is the quitt essential story as far as 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:32.280 never giving up, right, because his touchdown interception ratio was 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.320 always in the negative, but he every time he had 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.000 an opportunity, he took full advantage of it, even when 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.080 he bounced around in the league. You talked about it 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:42.280 has real familiarity when Nathaniel Hacket from his time in 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.920 Green Bay and Bart alluded to it, Right, the ball 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.800 comes out quick with boy. Right, he's a veteran quarterback, 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:51.000 knows the system, knows where to go with the football. 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:53.520 So some of the things that Bart talked about, right, 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:55.760 not having that continuity with some of the receivers and 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.120 running backs because he hasn't gotten those reps with them. 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.200 So the only thing that kind of sucks is leak 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:01.119 is a shortened week. 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:02.960 Right, They play on a Friday game, so you won't 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.680 have as many practice rep reps with those guys. 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.400 To build up that timing and continuity. 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.200 But this is a veteran guy, and to Bar's point, 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:14.840 hopefully because he has played some football, he's been around 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.800 the block, you know a few times. It's been in 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.719 the system for a few years that maybe the offense 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.520 executes at a higher level. That's what you're hoping when 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.160 you make this play in regards to benching of Zach Wilson. 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:27.039 Right, when you lose through three. 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:29.160 Games in a row and the offense has somewhat been 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:32.239 a kneemic, then you're always looking for quote unquote a spark. 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:32.480 Right. 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.000 I really don't like using that word because I feel 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.880 like there has to be a reasoning for something to change, right, 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.760 But ultimately, when the offense has performed how it's performed, 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.479 something is going to change, and ultimately they decide to 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:45.840 switch up the quarterback position. 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:49.080 Well, dudes, doesn't like that word, bar, but Ken Boyle 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.200 actually provide a spark. 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.080 I mean, I think you know, you have to believe 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:55.800 in something, right. 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.440 So the thing is sometimes when you make a change, 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.760 everybody's going to try and believe in that change, and 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:03.960 you know, all it takes is a couple of good 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.600 balls to kind of get momentum and belief. 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:08.840 Right. I felt like the belief was gone. Right. 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.479 We saw this happen throughout the league. We saw Matt 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:15.000 Canada get fired today simply because it was a loss 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:17.680 of belief, right, And when you don't believes like It's 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.800 like one of those things. Those who say they can can, 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.560 those who say they can are both usually right. And 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:25.480 when you believe that you can do something, you have 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.000 them to believe in, and usually that positive momentum kind 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.160 of pushes you forward. Guys are understanding that, hey, we're 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.279 at least the team and the coach in the organization 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.240 if hearing our cries and trying to do something to 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:40.320 win now with all the things that have happened, right 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:45.120 and how bad it's been, you're still not that far away, 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:46.760 right And like the. 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:48.960 Football guys keep giving you an opportunity. 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:53.479 Like teams are losing, Buffalo's got a tough schedule going forward. 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:56.160 I'm not saying that the Jets don't, but if they 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.200 can win one of these games, and that's what we're 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.000 talking about, if they could split with one of these team, 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:02.160 that just puts them in the mix and it gives 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.240 them the opportunity to fight another week and another week. 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.839 We don't know what's going to happen with Cincinnati with 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:12.000 their tough schedule. We don't know if the maturity of 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:13.560 the Texans will continue to play. 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:14.960 And you have an opportunity to. 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.599 Add to that, right and It's funny because the teams 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:21.159 that people thought were out of it Denver, potentially the 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:25.159 Raiders in yourself can still be alive if you just 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:26.960 win a couple of games that you're not supposed to 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.800 win it. We've seen the Jets do that, right, the 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.479 teams and continue to get hurt. Now, the Jets aren't 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.839 the most healthiest, but when you think about on the 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.360 defensive side of the ball, they're still together that way, 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:39.520 so they can they have a unit that can dominate 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.400 and keep them in the game as other teams are 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.000 losing key players left and right. I mean, you talk 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.520 about that Buffalo Bills, and that's why I was hoping 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.240 that they would put you know, boil in sooner. They 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.360 lost two more of their defensive stars. Those are opportunities, right, 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.480 and it's like the law diminishing returns, and that's happening 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.400 throughout the NFL right now. And the Jets, at least 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.640 the defense side of the unit are still healthy that 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:04.640 they can play on a play with a mismatch in 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.839 advantage because they have continuity. You talk about all the 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.880 things that the offense don't have. Continuity healthy guys. You know, 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.160 they got back up to the backup. The Jets on 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.840 defense are strong, indeed. 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:22.360 Dudes, how would you describe Zach Wilson's three years to 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:26.000 date here in the National Football League? Robert sala He 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:30.120 was quick to point out that, listen, an unfortunate series 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:34.520 of events here this year for the Jets and Wilson offensively. 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.960 Yeah, I would say a bit of a roller coaster, right, 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.119 I mean, go back all the way to twenty twenty 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.640 one at Tennessee Titans game, where you know, he was 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:45.800 throwing off platform, throwing the ball down the field to 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:48.600 Corey Davis, probably one of his better performances. And then 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.520 from the fundamental standpoint as far as footwork and being 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:54.320 able to stay in the pocket and not evade the 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.240 pocket when you don't have to, when pressure really isn't there, 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:59.680 we saw him struggle in that aspect, right. We saw 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.480 growth and that this year, but then we also saw 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:05.240 regression in him holding the ball too much, So a 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:08.000 little bit of a roller coaster up and down. I 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.080 did see growth in him this year in regards to 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:14.000 making the simple throws, right, that's where he struggled in 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:17.360 his rookie year. But yeah, it's just been a bit 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:20.240 of a roller coaster, And this is typical with young players, right. 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:22.680 I mean everybody was looking at that draft class like 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.160 it was going to be the best thing ever, Right, 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.920 And we've seen Trey Lance already get traded, right, we 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.600 saw justin Fields kind of happened up and up and 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:32.880 down careers. So, I mean, you just never know what 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:34.760 ricky quarterbacks coming into the league. 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:34.959 Right. 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.320 It's all about being in the right system and do 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:40.120 they progress correctly in the right way. Do they do 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.840 the little things right, the fundamentals parts of the game, 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.720 the parts that people get bored doing. Do they continue 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.880 to work on those aspects of their game. So when 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.360 you talk about Zach Wilson, I think the best word 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.240 to describe it is a little bit of a roller coaster. 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:59.040 Yeah, it's disappointing from the aspect of you know, I 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.360 would say this is more disappointing than the Sam Donald 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:04.600 because Sam Donald was coming to a team that didn't 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.400 have talent, right, and this team has a little bit 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:07.920 more talent. 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:09.160 But it's a cautionary tail. 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:12.400 When you think about Trey Lanz, you think about Zach Wilson. 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.160 You know, experience matters, and it doesn't matter where you 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.720 get to experience football or football you talk about guys 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:19.079 that have struggled wherever you want to go, all the 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.480 way back to Mark Sanchez, who I think is a 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.480 better version of these players when you think about he 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.880 didn't have the experience, but he had the support and 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.920 the support that you have to have with any young 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:34.560 quarterback is a solid offensive line. 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.880 Yeah, not able to really do that. 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:40.560 So, like now, what happens is that the fear of 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.680 the physical part of the game. And you know, also 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.720 he wasn't, you know, physically mature. He still hasn't physically 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:48.320 mature yet. He's going to have to get a little 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.920 bit bigger, a little bit stronger. But the fact that 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.280 they couldn't support him, when you look at all the 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:55.719 guys that have came in the league and struggled immediately, 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.559 they've gone places where they can't protect. You talk about 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.319 Justin Field, who the guy who can protect himself with 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:04.679 his legs, and he's a bigger guy, he's still struggling. 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.280 After this season, he'll be on his way out. So 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.600 you'll talk about three guys, you know, within that draft 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.400 that will find themselves probably on new teams next year 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:18.439 because the lack of protection where Trey Lance just wasn't 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.160 didn't have enough experience, and he ran into a team 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.080 that needed to win a Super Bowl, was ready to 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.440 win a Super Bowl right now, and he got beat 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:27.720 out by a guy who had a lot of experience 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.640 playing football, and all he had to do is see 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:32.439 what he was supposed to see and be able to 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.160 anticipate throw. And that's going to be the downfall of 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.720 exact that Zach wants to rein in this league. He 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:39.960 doesn't want to be like Mitchell Tubisky, doesn't want to 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:43.240 be like Ponder, doesn't want to be like Josh Rosen. 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:45.240 He's going to have to learn how to take a 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.560 step back and learn how to process right. 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.599 You can't process at a dial up type. 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:53.840 Of you know, to beat you have to come up 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.000 like you got five g right, because that's what that 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:56.760 league is about. 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.720 This league is not about handling the ball off thirty times. 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.480 I don't care who you are. They just don't do that. 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.320 It's about being able to drop back and process a 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:07.240 lot of moving parts at one time to get the 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:08.120 ball out the games. 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:08.559 Dude. 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.640 The Jets are four and six, three game losing streak. 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:16.360 They've started five different line combinations in the last five games, 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.599 seven different line combinations. 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:21.599 Overall, in ten games. 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:25.880 Thirteen different offensive line men have taken snaps for the 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:29.160 Jets this year, saying, how do you patch it together? 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:33.120 Here? Like you're talking about it's short week? 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:37.120 You got Miami who oh, by the way, they're playing 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:41.559 really good defense, right, Yeah, in South Florida. 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:43.959 You almost would say that over the last couple of 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:47.079 weeks that team has actually been led by its defense, right, 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.559 because two in that offense haven't been able to put 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.480 up a boatload of points like they did in the 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.080 beginning of the year when they were dropping seventy versus 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:57.160 Denver Broncos. So, I mean the axcension and the return 0:11:57.280 --> 0:11:59.720 of Jalen Ramsey has really given them something on that. 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:00.600 Right. 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:04.280 We've seen Jalen Phillips and Chubb on the outside become healthier, right, 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:07.120 being able to get after the quarterback Christian Wilkins is 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.080 in an a contract year and each playing like it. 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:09.360 Right. 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:13.520 So this is what I think Mike McDaniel was thinking 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:15.959 when he decided to trade for Chubb halfway through the year, 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:18.400 to trade for Jalen Ramsey in the offseason to pair 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:21.480 him with Xavier and Howard. So now you have essentially 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:24.560 what the Jets have, Right. You have two star corners. Yeah, 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:27.079 you have two star corners that can lock down your 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:31.199 two top guys. And what they're saying is how explosive 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.360 our offense is. There's no way you can go toe 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.480 to toe with us. If our defense holds you to 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:37.960 like seventeen to twenty points, you're not gonna beat us. 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.240 And that's been their formula and they've been able to 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.000 do it. And Bart knows this playing linebacker as many 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:44.920 years as he did in the NFL. If you have 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:46.640 a team that can just give you like a ten 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.280 point lead, I mean, it makes it so much easier 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.000 on defense, right, because now you can squat on things 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:53.600 if you're a corner because you got a guy over 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:55.679 the top and d line, you can really pin your 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:59.679 ears back and get after the quarterback. So I always say, 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.440 going into the season, and this is before Rogers had 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.800 the injury, I didn't think the biggest threat to the 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:06.880 Jets was the Bills. 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:09.160 I thought it was the Miami Dolphins. Right. The thing 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:10.960 that concerned me about the Dolphins was the debt. Right. 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.400 They have a lot of star power up front, right, 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:16.280 but their depth they lack debt. But the thing is 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.319 all their star power is getting healthy at the right time. 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.839 And Barton knows this, right around this time, this is 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:22.959 when you got to be playing your best football, right 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.840 around Thanksgiving and going forward. And that's what the Miami 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.680 Dolphins are doing. Now. Get The offense too, has turned 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:30.640 the ball over more a little bit lately than we're 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:33.760 accustomed to him doing. But because of that, defense has 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.240 come to the party, right, they can overcome some of 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:36.880 those issues. 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:42.200 Bart We saw the Jets try to go big early 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:47.520 against the Bills twelve personnel, thirteen personnel with a new quarterback. 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:51.400 Do you think you'll alter that approach and maybe try 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:53.400 to spread it out a little bit? I mean, how 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:55.600 do you attack it in a short term against Miami? 0:13:56.520 --> 0:14:01.080 I mean me, honestly, I would probably go with the 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:04.320 pony package, and I would take that tight end Rutger, 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.560 who's our best blocker, and I wouldn't put him on 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:08.439 the end of the line of scrimmage. I would split 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:11.400 him out and I'll run and I'll run power runs 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:15.840 out of that that formation, which is typically a light formation, 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.120 but it'd be regular, but it would play as three wides, 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:22.120 and I would I can do all my powers, my zones, 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.680 my stretches. You know some of their best plays, what's 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.400 the outside stretch play where you got to go get 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:29.880 it to him, much like edgwm James used to get it. 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.920 Because what happens is if you bring all these big 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:34.560 bodies in, they're just gonna pack it in. 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.920 They're gonna You're bringing more people to the party, so 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.240 you're closing up all the lanes. Especially if you don't 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.520 have offensive lineman that can win one on one, somebody's. 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:44.080 Gonna give up something. 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.920 So if I put Brucker out and split him out, 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.880 now somebody or or conference, somebody has to match. And 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.600 if they decide to go out there and that's a linebacker, 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:56.160 then I have a matchup with the linebacker one on 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.720 one on the safety or on a linebacker the tight end. 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.760 So it gives me opportunities. But also if I do that, 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.520 and I'll release the back and chip them out. Now, 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.080 I got two great guys that can catch the ball 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:12.080 in space against linebackers, right, So if they decide to 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:14.640 match with Nickel and Big Nickel and do it that way, 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:16.840 then we're gonna run the ball down their throat. If 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:18.680 they decide to come out there and heavy it up 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:20.480 with their regular base package. 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:22.000 See what you want to do is you want to 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:22.640 get teams in. 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.520 Their base package because their base package doesn't have a 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:27.000 lot of exotic glitzers. 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:28.600 They have linebacker blitzes. 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.520 It's hard to blitz a safety when you split split 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:33.840 the tight end out because that's the first thing you see. 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:35.560 But these are few blitchers off the edge. 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.600 Now you have two lots two running backs on the 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:41.080 outside that can just chip on their way out or 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.520 pick up the blitterer from the outside. If they bring 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:45.960 them an inside, you got them scand it. So basically 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:49.680 it turns into five seven man protections right because you 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.520 have two tailbacks in the backfield, five linemen. 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:55.040 That's seven men in protection, three men on the rock. 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:55.800 And then what. 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.480 Happens is as they're fighting in the route and nobody's winning, 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.640 they turn around to become an easy like the Jets 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.840 struggle with the check down the day, Like five five 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.800 yards guy turned a five yard dump because everybody's gonna 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.640 be getting tremendous depth. They turn that into a five 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.160 to ten yard game because you catching me. Now you're 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.040 ask the linebackers to continue to tackle breech haul in 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:18.520 space and also to tackle gallon cooking space. And if 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.880 one guy misses, everybody especially damn man and man if 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:24.720 somebody miss it's a rap because you got on both 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.200 sides right. So imagine they both split this way and 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.800 then run what the new England pages is run with 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:31.840 the gator route where they cross but they come out 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:32.080 of the. 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:32.840 Back of the cross. 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:36.240 You're running linebackers off and it's but they're chipping their 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:38.400 way out, so you protect it. So it gives you 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:41.680 so many different options when you go to that pony package, 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.640 and the people in your pony package are your best players. 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:46.720 Dudes. 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.880 Boil Is been in the league for a couple of years, 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.480 but he's relatively an experience. You're talking about his fourth 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:58.200 career start Vic Fangio. What will his game plan be 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:03.880 against a quarterback who's taken over in a tough situation. 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.320 I mean, bottom line, this is a tough situation. 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:09.400 Because we talked about the lineups, the personnel up front, 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:11.879 and the Jets just haven't been able to score and 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:15.080 third down has been a monster problem for this team 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:16.040 all of eleven. 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.320 I guess it was somewhat encouraging against the bills. 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:22.840 The Jets converted four of their five fourth down opportunities. 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.800 But Fangio, what is he going to do? 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:30.560 Yeah, think about Vangiel, He's like people almost always think 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:31.440 that he's gonna blitz. 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:32.320 It's not what he wants to do. 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:34.359 He wants to let those front four get after you, right, 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.880 And that's why they went and got Jalen Ramsey because 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:38.600 if you look at it, when he was at Denver, right, 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:41.280 he had two really good corners there too as well. 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.320 So he wants that front four to get after you. 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:46.080 That's why they traded for tub Right. That's why Jalen 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:48.120 Phillips has come to the party as of late. 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:48.359 Right. 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:53.280 That's why you know guys like Zach Zeiler inside, who's 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:55.600 a really good, underrated player who can rush the passer 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.840 as well. He's gonna put these offensive linemen on the islands, right, 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:01.000 He'll show that he's gonna listen, then they'll back up 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:02.879 out of there, right, And he wants to know if 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:04.720 you got your protection protections down. 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:06.119 Bart was talking about this earlier. 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.080 I think something that Jets should do is with their 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.760