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Speaker 1: Official Jets Podcast is presented by win Bet. Betty's a

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Speaker 1: team sport, but together win Bet Eric own here at

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Speaker 1: one Jets Drive. We got leg Duza Bowls joining us

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Speaker 1: from parts unknown maybe Florida. And then Bart Scott is

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Speaker 1: in Maryland Baltimore today, Is that correct?

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Speaker 2: Bart? A lot of kids feeding the kids, well not

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Speaker 2: the kids, oh man, my bat kids. Tonight, men and women,

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Speaker 2: was last night?

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Speaker 3: Plans for Thanksgiving? Fellas work.

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Speaker 4: I gotta be in the studio.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll be working. I gotta get up in first dake.

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Speaker 5: Yeah all right, No rest of the weary baby, no

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Speaker 5: rest of the weary Hey.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we got we got a CBS game, so I

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Speaker 1: Listen, we are blessed to be able to work in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. Don't have too much turkey, though,

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Speaker 1: because I don't want either one of you guys falling

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Speaker 1: asleep after that trip to fan.

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Speaker 4: Now, I'm gonna say I'm gonna eat after after our work.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the big news here. The

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Speaker 1: Jets make a quarterback change. Tim Boyle will start in

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Speaker 1: the NFL's first ever Black Friday game as the Jets

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Speaker 1: resume play against the Miami Dolphins here this weekend. Bart,

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on Robert Solad's decision.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think it was a once you Once

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Speaker 5: you put Tim Boyle in a game, we knew that

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Speaker 5: it was. It symbolized a bigger story to the end.

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Speaker 5: I thought that when he did get in, the ball

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Speaker 5: came out on time. They weren't in sync.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: You think about the hot route with with Dalvin Cook.

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Speaker 5: You know, maybe we can get some of that magic

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Speaker 5: that we had last year when we put in veterans

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Speaker 5: and just seeing the field ball coming out early.

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Speaker 2: Quick decisions, allowing our playmakers to make some play.

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Speaker 5: I've been screaming for the Pony package probably for five weeks,

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Speaker 5: so much so that you know, they put a whole

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Speaker 5: package to me in different suits talking about the Pony package.

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Speaker 5: I thought they used it effectively, but then they went

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Speaker 5: away from it. I think that's one of the best

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Speaker 5: personnel groups, and they have to find a way to

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Speaker 5: keep Bruce hal and Dalvin Cook out there. At the

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Speaker 5: same time. It's so many things you can do. Double screens,

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Speaker 5: you can you know, fake the handoff with the swing

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Speaker 5: you got will Rows.

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Speaker 2: We saw him using effectively last year Micael Carter as

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Speaker 5: So many different things you can do out of that

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Speaker 5: double screens, chipping on the way out, helping out the tackles.

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Speaker 5: So hopefully, you know, now with the with a quarterback

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Speaker 5: that's a little bit more veteran, that seems to feel better,

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Speaker 5: the timing is better in the offense, maybe we can

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Speaker 5: you know, keep pace and try to make sure that

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Speaker 5: that defense continues to perform the way it is that

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Speaker 5: we can capitalize on that great difference play.

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Speaker 3: Dudes, give me the scoutary report on Boyle.

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Speaker 1: He's the guy who's bounced around quite a bit, but

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Speaker 1: he's got familiarity with the system and the other thing

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Speaker 1: that Bart said about getting the ball out quicker. I

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Speaker 1: know the Jets have struggled mightily on the offensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball this year, but they're eighteenth in yards

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Speaker 1: Boil is that he's gonna get rid of the rock.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's got an interesting story right started at Yukon,

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Speaker 6: then went to Eastern Kentucky. It's just weird because if

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Speaker 6: you look at his numbers, you would be like, I mean,

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Speaker 6: this guy is the quitt essential story as far as

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Speaker 6: never giving up, right, because his touchdown interception ratio was

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Speaker 6: an opportunity, he took full advantage of it, even when

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Speaker 6: he bounced around in the league. You talked about it

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Speaker 6: has real familiarity when Nathaniel Hacket from his time in

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Speaker 6: comes out quick with boy. Right, he's a veteran quarterback,

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Speaker 6: knows the system, knows where to go with the football.

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Speaker 6: So some of the things that Bart talked about, right,

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Speaker 4: So the only thing that kind of sucks is leak

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Speaker 6: Right, They play on a Friday game, so you won't

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Speaker 6: But this is a veteran guy, and to Bar's point,

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Speaker 6: you make this play in regards to benching of Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 4: Right, when you lose through three.

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Speaker 6: Games in a row and the offense has somewhat been

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 6: I really don't like using that word because I feel

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Speaker 6: like there has to be a reasoning for something to change, right,

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Speaker 6: But ultimately, when the offense has performed how it's performed,

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Speaker 1: Well, dudes, doesn't like that word, bar, but Ken Boyle

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Speaker 1: actually provide a spark.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think you know, you have to believe

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Speaker 5: So the thing is sometimes when you make a change,

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Speaker 5: everybody's going to try and believe in that change, and

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Speaker 5: you know, all it takes is a couple of good

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Speaker 2: Right. I felt like the belief was gone. Right.

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Speaker 5: We saw this happen throughout the league. We saw Matt

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Speaker 5: of belief, right, And when you don't believes like It's

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Speaker 5: like one of those things. Those who say they can can,

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Speaker 5: those who say they can are both usually right. And

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Speaker 5: of pushes you forward. Guys are understanding that, hey, we're

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Speaker 5: at least the team and the coach in the organization

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Speaker 5: if hearing our cries and trying to do something to

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Speaker 5: win now with all the things that have happened, right

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Speaker 5: and how bad it's been, you're still not that far away,

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Speaker 5: right And like the.

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Speaker 2: Football guys keep giving you an opportunity.

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Speaker 5: Like teams are losing, Buffalo's got a tough schedule going forward.

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying that the Jets don't, but if they

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Speaker 5: that just puts them in the mix and it gives

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Speaker 5: We don't know what's going to happen with Cincinnati with

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Speaker 2: And you have an opportunity to.

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Speaker 5: Add to that, right and It's funny because the teams

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Speaker 5: teams and continue to get hurt. Now, the Jets aren't

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Speaker 5: so they can they have a unit that can dominate

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Speaker 5: losing key players left and right. I mean, you talk

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Speaker 5: and it's like the law diminishing returns, and that's happening

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Speaker 5: the defense side of the unit are still healthy that

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Speaker 5: they got back up to the backup. The Jets on

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Speaker 1: Dudes, how would you describe Zach Wilson's three years to

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Speaker 1: date here in the National Football League? Robert sala He

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Speaker 1: was quick to point out that, listen, an unfortunate series

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say a bit of a roller coaster, right,

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Speaker 6: I mean, go back all the way to twenty twenty

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Speaker 6: Corey Davis, probably one of his better performances. And then

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Speaker 6: from the fundamental standpoint as far as footwork and being

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Speaker 6: able to stay in the pocket and not evade the

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Speaker 6: we saw him struggle in that aspect, right. We saw

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Speaker 6: of a roller coaster, And this is typical with young players, right.

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Speaker 6: I mean everybody was looking at that draft class like

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Speaker 6: And we've seen Trey Lance already get traded, right, we

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 6: It's all about being in the right system and do

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Speaker 6: to describe it is a little bit of a roller coaster.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's disappointing from the aspect of you know, I

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Speaker 2: But it's a cautionary tail.

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Speaker 5: When you think about Trey Lanz, you think about Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 5: You know, experience matters, and it doesn't matter where you

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Speaker 5: better version of these players when you think about he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not able to really do that.

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Speaker 5: So, like now, what happens is that the fear of

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Speaker 5: I don't care who you are. They just don't do that.

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Speaker 1: The Jets are four and six, three game losing streak.

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Speaker 3: Overall, in ten games.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen different offensive line men have taken snaps for the

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Speaker 3: Here? Like you're talking about it's short week?

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Speaker 1: You got Miami who oh, by the way, they're playing

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Speaker 6: You almost would say that over the last couple of

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Speaker 6: We've seen Jalen Phillips and Chubb on the outside become healthier, right,

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Speaker 6: So this is what I think Mike McDaniel was thinking

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Speaker 6: And that's been their formula and they've been able to

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Speaker 4: I thought it was the Miami Dolphins. Right. The thing

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Speaker 1: Bart We saw the Jets try to go big early

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Speaker 5: I mean me, honestly, I would probably go with the

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Speaker 2: Because what happens is if you bring all these big

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Speaker 5: They're gonna You're bringing more people to the party, so

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Speaker 2: Gonna give up something.

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Speaker 5: So if I put Brucker out and split him out,

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Speaker 5: Their base package because their base package doesn't have a

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Speaker 5: It's hard to blitz a safety when you split split

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Speaker 2: That's seven men in protection, three men on the rock.

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Speaker 2: Back of the cross.

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Speaker 5: You're running linebackers off and it's but they're chipping their

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Speaker 1: Boil Is been in the league for a couple of years,

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Speaker 3: I mean, bottom line, this is a tough situation.

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Speaker 1: Because we talked about the lineups, the personnel up front,

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Speaker 4: It's not what he wants to do.

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Speaker 6: That's why you know guys like Zach Zeiler inside, who's

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Speaker 6: as well. He's gonna put these offensive linemen on the islands, right,

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Speaker 4: Offensive tackles has started that offensive tackle and the interior three.

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Speaker 6: There's been seven different players that have swapped out in

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Speaker 6: far as the two guys chipping out, right, they should

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Speaker 4: My thing is protection is the number one thing, right.

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Speaker 6: You can't worry about the run back getting out out

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Speaker 6: So I think protecting is more important than getting people

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Speaker 6: And the thing is ball has to understand if you're

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Speaker 6: throwing anywhere near Ramsey and you lay with the football,

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Speaker 6: it's going the other way. He had another pick just

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Speaker 6: this pas last weekend right undercutting the end breaking route.

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Speaker 6: So you better not be laid on any in breaking

444
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Speaker 6: routes because he's undercutting everything.

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Speaker 3: I will go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Bark, that's that's why I love the the the the

447
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Speaker 5: split backs because the bats when they're split, they're going

448
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Speaker 5: to be basically right inside the shoulders of the tackles.

449
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Speaker 5: So now what happens. Also you can play with that

450
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Speaker 5: and you can go into eye formation. And really the

451
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Speaker 5: first team that really did this to us was the

452
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Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills because we were blitch a lot. They were

453
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Speaker 5: going to and they were going eye formation and they

454
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Speaker 5: just fake the ball. And they have the two running

455
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Speaker 5: backs that take the d N. So you got two

456
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Speaker 5: on the d N and miss and they can fly

457
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Speaker 5: the entire line, you know, to the right or to

458
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Speaker 5: the left, based on who's who's who needs to help.

459
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Speaker 5: But then that's that that back and still check out

460
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Speaker 5: like Keith Miller used to do for Ben Roethlisberg, he'd

461
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Speaker 5: be blocking, block and blocking. Ben Scrambler can't find nobody

462
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Speaker 5: turn around. You lose people when they're engaged with blocking,

463
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Speaker 5: you lose them. And if you miss your block, you

464
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Speaker 5: just swing it become the automatic.

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Speaker 1: All right, a couple things offensively, then I want to

466
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Speaker 1: ask you a couple things about the defense here for

467
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Speaker 1: the Jets, dudes, Breese Hall has been devastating as a

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Speaker 1: pass catcher.

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Speaker 3: When he gets in the open field.

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Speaker 1: Number one is if I'm a defensive back, I don't

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Speaker 1: want any part of that. And oh, by the way,

472
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Speaker 1: those guys who are getting part of that, they are

473
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Speaker 1: going down because he's such a powerful runner man. And

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Speaker 1: then something that we talked about actually yesterday, what's the

475
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Speaker 1: counter now? If the Dolphins are playing their squatting routes

476
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Speaker 1: against Garrett Wilson, they got safety help over the top,

477
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Speaker 1: what's the counter? What does Garrett need around him so

478
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Speaker 1: he can get some space.

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Speaker 6: They gonna do a lot more bunts formations, right, get

480
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Speaker 6: rub browse, get guys on different levels. And also pre

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Speaker 6: snot motion. I mean I remember earlier in the year

482
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Speaker 6: they were motioning them a lot, not as much in

483
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Speaker 6: these last couple of days. You just got to you

484
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Speaker 6: got to motion them just to see what the defense

485
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Speaker 6: is then. And then also I think Alan Lazard has

486
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Speaker 6: to come to the party.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 6: If guys are sitting on routes, Bart, you know the slugs, right,

489
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Speaker 6: we need to run double moves. I was screaming it

490
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Speaker 6: at the top of my lungs during a Buffalo game.

491
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Speaker 6: I'm like, they are sitting on hitches, stop routes and

492
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Speaker 6: comeback routes the whole game because they had no respect

493
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Speaker 6: of us throwing the ball down the field. Well, Bart,

494
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Speaker 6: the way to get out of that is you hit

495
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Speaker 6: a dB with a double move and that will break

496
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Speaker 6: them up out of that. So I think that needs

497
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Speaker 6: to be done this week in regards to getting boiled

498
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Speaker 6: some easy throws. If you got to put Garret Wilson

499
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Speaker 6: in some bunch sets, that way, you could push guys

500
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Speaker 6: up and run him underneath, even if they do have

501
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Speaker 6: a bracket up under him. Garrett Wilson has proven to

502
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Speaker 6: be able to run away from the first guy, run

503
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Speaker 6: him on some drag routes underneath.

504
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Speaker 4: That way, Bull House easy outlet to go to.

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Speaker 6: There was a play that I think Tony Romo broke

506
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Speaker 6: down during the game where they pushed the two receivers

507
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Speaker 6: up and they brought Xavier Gibson underneath. Right, They need

508
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Speaker 6: to do some of that with Garrett Wilson. That way

509
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Speaker 6: he can be a run and catch guy as well.

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Speaker 6: And you talked about it, EA, I think that Breese

511
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Speaker 6: Hall should get at least five or six targets out

512
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Speaker 6: of the backfield the game. I mean, even if you

513
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Speaker 6: split him out and they brought him on some drag

514
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Speaker 6: route things. I like what Bart talked about the two

515
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Speaker 6: back sets that could also be beneficial to the New

516
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Speaker 6: York Jets. But I think Breecee Hall in the open

517
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Speaker 6: field you talked about it. Linebackers don't want no part

518
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Speaker 6: of that, and for sure DBS don't want any problems

519
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Speaker 6: with that. Like you said, every time somebody made contact

520
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Speaker 6: with him, they were down on the ground. Again, we're

521
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Speaker 6: not saying we're enjoying injuries out there, but that's the

522
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Speaker 6: physical nature of Breeze Hall. He just has to be

523
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Speaker 6: a little bit more consistent in catching the ball. He's

524
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Speaker 6: had a few drops the last couple of weeks, but

525
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Speaker 6: they definitely got to get him the ball in the

526
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Speaker 6: air out of the backfield.

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Speaker 1: Dudes, I wanted to ask you about the defense. Jets

540
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Speaker 1: defense has been so good throughout the year. Obviously, the

541
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Speaker 1: Bills laying at some paunches against them, and that was

542
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Speaker 1: the first time I really saw the Jets defense in

543
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Speaker 1: that kind of position.

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Speaker 3: Are you worried about that?

545
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Speaker 1: Not from the sense of physically what they're going to

546
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Speaker 1: bring to the table, but the wear and tearror This

547
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Speaker 1: is taken on them mentally because they haven't got to

548
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Speaker 1: support elsewhere throughout the year.

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Speaker 6: And that was the perfect word to use, thea mentally,

550
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Speaker 6: right Bart We know this human nature is human nature,

551
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Speaker 6: and at the end of the day, you do get frustrated,

552
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Speaker 6: but you have to realize you have a job to

553
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Speaker 6: do and you have to understand what the standard is

554
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Speaker 6: like no matter what's going on the other side. And

555
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Speaker 6: this isn't just ball speak or coach speak. Right If

556
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Speaker 6: you want to be labeled as the top defense in football.

557
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 6: Your job is if you have a blade of grass

558
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Speaker 6: to protect, go out there and protect it. So Bart,

559
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Speaker 6: you know this playing as long as we've played like,

560
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Speaker 6: there's certain situations and the Dets have always been the

561
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Speaker 6: tories for being a really good defensive team where you're

562
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Speaker 6: not getting as much support on the other side, and

563
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Speaker 6: what do guys do, Bart, They start reeling, right, they

564
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 6: start trying to make plays that aren't plays to be made.

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Speaker 2: Right.

566
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Speaker 4: You see guys trying to jump routes when they're not

567
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Speaker 4: supposed to jump routes.

568
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Speaker 6: We always had I think DT would always say make

569
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Speaker 6: sure you always secure that back on before going at

570
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Speaker 6: the ball, especially if you don't know you for sure

571
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Speaker 6: can get the interception right. We saw that a few times.

572
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Speaker 6: We saw with Brandon Echols, we saw with Saws Goner.

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Speaker 4: And you get it right because you feel like you got.

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Speaker 6: To go make a play to change things around. But

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Speaker 6: when it's your time to make a play, just make

576
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Speaker 6: the play that's required of you, right, don't live outside yourself.

577
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Speaker 6: And again it's easier said than done. To your point, EA,

578
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Speaker 6: when you feel like you're not getting the support on

579
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Speaker 6: the other side of the ball, You're like, I gotta

580
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 6: create a spark, right, But at the end of the day,

581
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 6: just do your job and a play will come to

582
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Speaker 6: you when you're supposed to make it. Perfect example, Josh

583
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Speaker 6: Josh Allen and Josh Allen fashion almost threw one to

584
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Speaker 6: us earlier in the game.

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Speaker 4: When that comes to you, I believe on the out

586
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Speaker 4: route to the left.

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Speaker 6: You got to make those plays, right, And we also

588
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 6: had I believe a strip and we didn't get the fumble. Like,

589
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Speaker 6: those are the plays that we have to routinely make

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Speaker 6: to turn things around in the game, right. So like

591
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Speaker 6: the plays where you're trying to live outside yourself and

592
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Speaker 6: try to make a Pro Bowl or all Pro play,

593
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Speaker 6: you don't need to do that because those turn into

594
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Speaker 6: exposive plays if you miss it.

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Speaker 4: And that's what happened with the.

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Speaker 1: Jetspar How difficult is that mental battle because the first

597
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Speaker 1: play this game is a turnover and the Jets defense

598
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Speaker 1: is on the field. The first Bill's possession fellas four

599
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Speaker 1: plays minus nine yards. Quinn Williams comes up with a sack,

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Speaker 1: and they played so well in the red zone early

601
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Speaker 1: and then was like the damn finally broke in that

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Speaker 1: second half.

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Speaker 5: Well, the big issue is they're finally starting to miss

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Speaker 5: al Woods. You know, they they're trying to get cute

605
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Speaker 5: with the NASCAR package and they put Jermaine Johnson over there,

606
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Speaker 5: and teams are just saying, Okay, we see this guy

607
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Speaker 5: standing up at six ' five and I have a

608
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Speaker 5: guard and he's standing up moving around. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 5: have my guard fire off because he's gonna get to

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Speaker 5: his chest. He won't be able to anchor and we

611
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 5: can hit you. Either hand the ball off there or

612
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Speaker 5: we do a quarterback draw. That's pretty much.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 5: They won't do that with two a tongue by low,

615
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Speaker 5: but that's that's been an automatic check because that's a

616
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Speaker 5: bandaged offense. No matter how good Jermaine Johnson is, he's

617
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 5: not a guy that's built to be in there anchoring.

618
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Speaker 5: So sometimes they're catching the Jets off guard because they

619
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Speaker 5: do it with huff sometimes, who isn't a bigger guy.

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Speaker 5: And listen, whenever a three hundred and twenty pound duke

621
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Speaker 5: can roll off and you're standing up giving him your

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Speaker 5: chest and your stern, they're going to do that.

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Speaker 2: So they have to self scout and understand If you're

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Speaker 2: going to.

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Speaker 5: Do that, you better have a linebacker back there sitting

626
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Speaker 5: in that gap ready to fire and come down hill

627
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Speaker 5: because it's gonna be a quick hitting play.

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Speaker 2: You got to those gaps up.

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Speaker 6: Or also I would I would I like to change

630
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Speaker 6: up and putting JFM in there and having him stand

631
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Speaker 6: up and be the spinner guy, which I think to

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Speaker 6: your point, Bart, you got to start mixing some of

633
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Speaker 6: that things up because teams, like you said, are scouting, right,

634
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 6: they they self scout, They scout what the Jets are doing,

635
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Speaker 6: and they understand that Jermaine is setting up in there.

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Speaker 4: This is a pass down. But if it's third and five.

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Speaker 6: You know what, we maybe could hit a quarterback draw

638
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 6: here and get a first down three five yards because

639
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 6: we feel like with our guard, yeah, our guard, he's

640
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Speaker 6: gonna knock Jermaine off the ball. And then especially if

641
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 6: it's a scoop block, with a guard and tackle of

642
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 6: working together, they can work to that linebacker that's off

643
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 6: the ball, we can get an easy five year. So

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Speaker 6: I think even moving JFM into that spinner package and

645
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Speaker 6: having him stand up, I think that could be a

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Speaker 6: nice little change up.

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Speaker 1: What gives this week Tyreek Hill. He gets his against anybody.

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Speaker 1: But with that being said, Saws, Gardner and DJ Reid

649
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Speaker 1: have been outstanding this year. I mean, I'm watching that

650
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Speaker 1: game in the first half, and yeah, Digg's finish was

651
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Speaker 1: with about.

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Speaker 3: Four catches but less than thirty yards receive it.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if Gave Davis played Fellas nothing against.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead Bert.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, they're playing at a high level.

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Speaker 5: You talk about the one mental laps and then you

657
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Speaker 5: believe it was covered three and it should have been

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Speaker 5: a white head down there and Saus try to come

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Speaker 5: over and kind of save the day. You know, I

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Speaker 5: understand it's gonna come down to those communications late in

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Speaker 5: the game because teams are always gonna take their shots,

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Speaker 5: especially a team like the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna have about one or two shots called, you know,

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Speaker 2: a quarter.

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Speaker 5: So you gotta deal with eight shots, and you got

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Speaker 5: to make sure that you communicate because if you try

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Speaker 5: and double Tyreek Hill, you better make sure you put

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Speaker 5: hands on him at the line of scrimmage because if

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Speaker 5: you play off and let him a good opportunity to run.

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Speaker 5: We've seen him split double team until put it up

671
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 5: there and he runs and go get it, and you

672
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 5: know you think you're gonna be flat footed if your

673
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 5: white hand or somebody like that, that's not gonna work.

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Speaker 5: You got to put hands on him and have help

675
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 5: over the top. That means you got to stop stop

676
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 5: the run with a light box, no eight hand, But

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Speaker 5: that also means that you know Mustard, you know can

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Speaker 5: they're going to have the advantage. And you know when

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Speaker 5: you're you're trying to start with a six man box,

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Speaker 5: you know you need your guy to be a player

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Speaker 5: and a half. They can't just be one player. It's

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Speaker 5: got to be a player in a half. Somebody has

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Speaker 5: to win. You can't get up the field because it's

684
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Speaker 5: going to create lanes. You got to make sure that

685
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 5: you sit on the two gap, and you gotta understand

686
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 5: you'll get the tour when you can't but moost people

687
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Speaker 5: that are beaten to it. Has been able to keep

688
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 5: him inside of the of the pocket. He's not a

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00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 5: guy that can buy time for itself. And if the

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00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 5: play is off timing, he doesn't know where to go

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Speaker 5: with the football.

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Speaker 2: He usually takes the sack, so you get sacks. Now

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Speaker 2: with covered.

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Speaker 5: Sacks, you're trying to get up the lang him opportunity

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00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 5: to step up and get him a vision. Remember he's

696
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 5: a shorter quarterback. He needs lanes to throw to as

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00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 5: well through as well.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and if you look at our dvs more specifically

699
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 6: saw in Dj Reed, they I've been playing at Pro

700
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 6: Bowl level. You talked about Gave Davis and Stefan Diggs

701
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 6: not really having a day.

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00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 4: I think we really miss Michael Carter.

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00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, secure Khalil's secure had a really

704
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 6: big game against the but all of that, most of

705
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 6: that happened on a one seventy plus yard catch and

706
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 6: Bark alluded to that play earlier. Now you get you

707
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 6: know Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Wattle coming into town, and

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00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 6: you know this bar anytime as a dB, as a

709
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 6: D line, as a linebacker, if there's a guy on

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00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 6: the opposite side that has a name and people have

711
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 6: been talking about him all week long, you want to

712
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 6: stand up for the challenge, right. So I guarantee that

713
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 6: Dj Reed and Salt Garner are looking for this challenge.

714
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 6: And bar you talked about the shots down the field

715
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 6: with Tyreek Hill. Sometimes it's not even the shots down

716
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 6: the field. It's as simple in breaking routes. If you

717
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 6: don't take the air out of Tyreek Hill in zone coverage.

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00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 4: He will run past you. We saw him do it

719
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 4: versus Raiders this last week.

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00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 6: They were in a simple cover two and he ran

721
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 6: past four dbs and scored a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: So you got to take the air out of that.

723
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Speaker 6: You got to condense some of that, and like you said,

724
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Speaker 6: you got to be physical with him at the line

725
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 6: of scrimmage just to throw off that timing. The thing

726
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 6: about too with tongue of baaloa. He's accurate, right, but

727
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 6: he throws with so much anticipation. But you have to

728
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 6: throw off that timing by disrupting the receivers at the

729
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 6: line of scrimmage. So we know in a game like

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Speaker 6: this the Jets will have a plan for Tyree QB.

731
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Speaker 6: The guy that you need to circle is Jalen Wattle, right,

732
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 6: because he can be a game breaker as well with

733
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Speaker 6: the speed he has. We'll see if a Chaine is

734
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Speaker 6: able to go. I know they took him out of

735
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 6: the game for precautionary issues. Supposedly, we'll see how heard

736
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 6: he is. But Raheem Mostrid is a viable back that

737
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 6: has speed as well and runs very physical. So we

738
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 6: know that the Jets have been creased the last couple

739
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 6: of weeks a little bit in the run game.

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Speaker 4: They got to come to the party.

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Speaker 6: As far as like Bart talks about having a light box,

742
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 6: the big boys up front got to come to the

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Speaker 6: party this week.

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00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,280
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746
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Speaker 1: and subscribe as well. Let's out here, fellas. Happy Thanksgiving

747
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: to you in your respect to families. But for the Jets,

748
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: this I believe will be their sixteenth quarterback in fifteen

749
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: years to be starting a game here Friday against the

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. But if you're Tim boyle Man, this is

751
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: every kid's dream, isn't it? Playing Thanksgiving? I mean, this

752
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: is a fourth career start. But listen, when we were

753
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: in the backyard playing, or Bart was playing in Detroit

754
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: growing up, playing in that big Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Game.

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Speaker 1: As far as your friends and families concerned, this is

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Speaker 1: what we all talked about.

758
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 3: This is what we all dreamed of playing on Thanksgiving.

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00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 5: This is more special. This is an inaugural game. This

760
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 5: has never happened before. He'll be a question on some

761
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 5: sports show, who was the first person who's the first

762
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 5: two quarterbacks started.

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00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: Black Friday game. So this is a way to be immortalized.

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Speaker 5: You know, you know, not putting limitation on Tim Boyle,

765
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 5: but I don't think he's going to be a Hall

766
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Speaker 5: of Famer, But you know, this is some way where

767
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 5: he can be mortalized and be remembered in his game,

768
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 5: especially if he plays well and he's the winning he's

769
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Speaker 5: the winning quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Nobody remembers the losers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, in regards to Tim Boyle playing in this game,

772
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 6: we saw how this team last year when Mike White

773
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 6: came in, how they really galvanized on him. He has

774
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 6: that opportunity to really have the team buy into him

775
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 6: being the guy going forward.

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Speaker 4: Right, And Ea, you talked about it.

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Speaker 6: It's one game at a time, but even throughout what

778
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 6: the Jets have been through, they're still in the thick

779
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 6: of this thing, right, So you have an opportunity to

780
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 6: vision foe if you're Tim Boyle, I mean for most

781
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 6: of your career. We talked about it earlier, Right, it's

782
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 6: had a negative touchdown the interception ratio.

783
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Speaker 4: I mean, we know he has the big arm. Just

784
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 4: go out there and let it lose, man.

785
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 6: I mean this is an opportunity that who knows if

786
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 6: you'll get another one like this, right, EA, to go

787
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 6: out there, play loose.

788
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 4: Literally all the.

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Speaker 6: Pressures on the Miami Dolphins, right because now they're trying

790
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 6: to keep pace with the Ravens and the Chiefs in

791
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Speaker 6: regards to try to get it one seat, especially with

792
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Speaker 6: the Chiefs losing last night.

793
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Speaker 4: If you're tim boil like, they have all the pressure

794
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 4: right they.

795
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Speaker 6: Have to make the plays. Just go out there. I'm

796
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 6: not saying live outside yourself. Don't be timid either. Just

797
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 6: go out there and cut it loose.

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Speaker 3: Yep, that's right.

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Speaker 1: In Black Friday, Jet's going to be an all black

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Speaker 1: so they will look sure up against

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Speaker 3: The Dolphins, all right, fellas great stuff,