1
00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,840
Speaker 1: My next caest. It's the third time every year she

2
00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:05,800
Speaker 1: comes on the show. Like it's like it's like a

3
00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,879
Speaker 1: year because the first time it was seventeen in December,

4
00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:14,000
Speaker 1: and we came back in in December again, I believe,

5
00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,720
Speaker 1: and then now we're in January. I'm a little off

6
00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,880
Speaker 1: on my annual you know, fixed that I gotta have

7
00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,360
Speaker 1: with Cat that she comes in with energy. My next

8
00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,840
Speaker 1: guest is a tattoo artist, business owner, painter, philanthropists, and

9
00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,960
Speaker 1: social media influence and reality television star. She's the first

10
00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,520
Speaker 1: African American woman to own a tattoo studio in Los Angeles,

11
00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,280
Speaker 1: achieving noticed after being discovered on vich once hit series

12
00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:46,479
Speaker 1: Black and Crew Chicago artistic and creative handworkers included and

13
00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,000
Speaker 1: doing tattoos for countless celebrities and athletes. Please welcome again,

14
00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:56,640
Speaker 1: Katrina cat Tat Jackson. Hey, thank you so much for

15
00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,000
Speaker 1: having me back. Always so good to shop it out

16
00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,880
Speaker 1: with you. Well, you know, um, last time he was on,

17
00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,160
Speaker 1: you know you you just openess the tattoos location and

18
00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,120
Speaker 1: what's your name of it? Tell us everybody where's it?

19
00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,160
Speaker 1: Where's that? The shop is called Enigma Tattoo And we're

20
00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,119
Speaker 1: right in Beverly Hills or right on Peko on Robertson.

21
00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,760
Speaker 1: So it's a pretty popular intersection right in the center

22
00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,360
Speaker 1: of the city. Yeah, because because the reason is because

23
00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,440
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes when traffic is bad, I take Robertson

24
00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,920
Speaker 1: and can make that left, and I gotta go right

25
00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,520
Speaker 1: past Peek Cold, you know, and I had to stop

26
00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,280
Speaker 1: because I'm trying to get to Santa Monica. Make that

27
00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,640
Speaker 1: right so I get into Hollywood. So I'll make that

28
00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,880
Speaker 1: left because I always stand because it's gonna be mad

29
00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,319
Speaker 1: because I always stay at the at the International Intercondo,

30
00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,399
Speaker 1: the hotel, which is right there in central city. I'm

31
00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,319
Speaker 1: right down the street from so oh yeah, yeah, next

32
00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,960
Speaker 1: time you gotta pull over and come on in. Yes,

33
00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,240
Speaker 1: what's what's the experience? You know, because when here's tattoo,

34
00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,520
Speaker 1: because I know you have an experience when one comes

35
00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,440
Speaker 1: into your location. Talk to us about the experience. Um,

36
00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,320
Speaker 1: you mean like the experience of like a client, So

37
00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,440
Speaker 1: like clients, I know, you have your work on the

38
00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:08,560
Speaker 1: walls and things like that. Correct. Yeah, So um, everyone

39
00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,480
Speaker 1: that steps from the shop they literally said, like, man,

40
00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,840
Speaker 1: the vibing here is just amazing, and that's what I wanted. Um,

41
00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,960
Speaker 1: I knew I wanted a tattoo shop. But when you

42
00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,560
Speaker 1: think about UM, tattoo shops in the past, like a

43
00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:22,960
Speaker 1: lot of them are like a little hole in the

44
00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,639
Speaker 1: wall shops or you know, just not really like a

45
00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,320
Speaker 1: super comforting vibe. But like Enigma, when you walk in,

46
00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,160
Speaker 1: it's good music, good energy, beautiful artwork. I mean there's

47
00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,760
Speaker 1: eight of us, and all of us are painters as well,

48
00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,000
Speaker 1: So people come in and they're literally like blown away

49
00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,600
Speaker 1: by all the art on the walls. And again this

50
00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,160
Speaker 1: is like an art gallery, you know. So we've been

51
00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,520
Speaker 1: blessed to have UM two annual art shows since we've

52
00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,560
Speaker 1: been open. UM people come in and purchased artwork for

53
00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,679
Speaker 1: their homes and um, you know, they get tattoos. So

54
00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,640
Speaker 1: the tattoo experience is just very very relaxing and I

55
00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,600
Speaker 1: guess you could say scenic, you know, because there, you know,

56
00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,440
Speaker 1: they get to just look at all the art while

57
00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,000
Speaker 1: they get tattoos. We always have good music going, good conversation.

58
00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,120
Speaker 1: It's just a good vibe. Well that's why, that's why

59
00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,360
Speaker 1: I was one of the people understand that, you know,

60
00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, people, all people have different version of what

61
00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,520
Speaker 1: they feel the tattoo I've seen them. You know, you

62
00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,600
Speaker 1: go down Hollywood sun sunset and then you just see

63
00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,040
Speaker 1: you look over they go, I'm not going up in there,

64
00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,400
Speaker 1: you know. Or you you know, that's not a place

65
00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,320
Speaker 1: that that you want to go for the very first

66
00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,680
Speaker 1: time to get your tattoo. But that's the experience that

67
00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,520
Speaker 1: you didn't want at your location. And and and when

68
00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,000
Speaker 1: we first talked, when you first opened it, that's what

69
00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,800
Speaker 1: really excited me was that you was creating an experience

70
00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,880
Speaker 1: and that the people will walk away and tell somebody

71
00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,200
Speaker 1: else about that experience. And that's really and that's very

72
00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,920
Speaker 1: in line with you know what what what you get

73
00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,480
Speaker 1: when you go to beauty slaws and uh barbershops, it

74
00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,520
Speaker 1: is experience. That's why you keep coming back because you

75
00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,440
Speaker 1: sit there and talk and chat and chop it up,

76
00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,720
Speaker 1: but you adding the creative aspect of artwork, which is

77
00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,680
Speaker 1: really part of your passion, right yeah. And I feel

78
00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,560
Speaker 1: like with any um, like with any service industry, whether

79
00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,120
Speaker 1: it's like um past you shop or like you said,

80
00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,360
Speaker 1: hair salon and Barbara, like you know, social media is

81
00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,720
Speaker 1: so prevalent these days, um, but really what matters is

82
00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,200
Speaker 1: the word of mouth, you know, and what people are

83
00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,279
Speaker 1: saying and spreading the word about about your place of business.

84
00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,360
Speaker 1: So I think that that's more important than than anything. Well,

85
00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,240
Speaker 1: you know, the thing about it is that, first of all,

86
00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,400
Speaker 1: you said social media now, uh, you know, you just

87
00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,360
Speaker 1: posing left and right. Just it's just out there, just posing,

88
00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,720
Speaker 1: you know. And so are you modeling now or because

89
00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,280
Speaker 1: because I just that's a good thing now, because all

90
00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,720
Speaker 1: your all your all your poses are in good taste

91
00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,640
Speaker 1: and and and and but the but the response and

92
00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,640
Speaker 1: the engagement that you're getting is really incredible, and I

93
00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,000
Speaker 1: commend you on that because you're doing it more or

94
00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,680
Speaker 1: or I just stopped started following you at the wrong

95
00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,560
Speaker 1: time because you always pop up on my timeline at

96
00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,760
Speaker 1: that po wasn't again, it wasn't again and so so

97
00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,359
Speaker 1: so is that is that personal growth for you to

98
00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,080
Speaker 1: realize that who you are, you feel good about your

99
00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,960
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying you never felt good about yourself,

100
00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,560
Speaker 1: but you really are showing your brain and that's part

101
00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,360
Speaker 1: of your marketing. Yeah, thank you so much. I really

102
00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,279
Speaker 1: appreciate you noticing that because I remember when I first

103
00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,840
Speaker 1: started tattooing, um I felt like I had to um be,

104
00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,080
Speaker 1: I had to hide the faith and you know, the

105
00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,640
Speaker 1: beauty behind the girl that was the artist. I felt

106
00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,039
Speaker 1: like in order to be taken serious in this industry,

107
00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,280
Speaker 1: I could only put out my tattoos, you know, like

108
00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,520
Speaker 1: it's not about me, it's not about what I look like.

109
00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,720
Speaker 1: It's only about my artwork. And I've built up my

110
00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,320
Speaker 1: portfolio to a place where people know that my work

111
00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,240
Speaker 1: speaks for itself. But um, thanks to you know, reality TV,

112
00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,040
Speaker 1: people got to see me and got to get to

113
00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,920
Speaker 1: know me and know who I am behind you know, um,

114
00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,359
Speaker 1: all the tattoos and stuff. So now I'm not a

115
00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,440
Speaker 1: place where I'm comfortable, like I feel like my work

116
00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,400
Speaker 1: is spoken for itself, and I can also like I

117
00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,680
Speaker 1: work hard to I'm in the gym, you know, like

118
00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,160
Speaker 1: I have beautiful tattoos on my body, and I've been

119
00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,359
Speaker 1: blessed for like you know, endorsement deals and beauty brands

120
00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,359
Speaker 1: and fashion brands to recognize me and you want me

121
00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,480
Speaker 1: to represent their brands. So it's just crazy how things

122
00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,280
Speaker 1: come full circles. You know. I've always just stayed true

123
00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,280
Speaker 1: to just being the best that I can in any aspect,

124
00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,880
Speaker 1: whether it's working you know, tattoos, my artwork, working out

125
00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,560
Speaker 1: and um things are just starting to comfortable circles. So

126
00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,000
Speaker 1: I used to remember I used to take pictures and

127
00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,479
Speaker 1: my mom would be like, like, why are you just

128
00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,560
Speaker 1: taking pictures for no reason? It's just for a magazine

129
00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,920
Speaker 1: or something, And now it's for it's for an endorsement,

130
00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,400
Speaker 1: you know right right? Oh, no, you're a fire you know,

131
00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,360
Speaker 1: you know you know me. I'm I'm a professional. I

132
00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,360
Speaker 1: gotta say an eye for talent. I understand what branding

133
00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,520
Speaker 1: is all about. And I just have noticed the comfort

134
00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,120
Speaker 1: zone and then a targeted approach to what you're trying

135
00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,039
Speaker 1: to do. Because I can tell everybody all the pictures

136
00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,880
Speaker 1: to tasteful, all the pictures tasteful, the all professional. But

137
00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,800
Speaker 1: there what is what it's done for me as a

138
00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,200
Speaker 1: person who doesn't have a tattoo is like and a

139
00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,560
Speaker 1: guy who you know, I remember when when it was created,

140
00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,680
Speaker 1: an exact Steve Talk show which somebody came up with

141
00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,880
Speaker 1: a tattoo were called car washing. We had to cover

142
00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,080
Speaker 1: those up. And what you've done is normalized the process

143
00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,880
Speaker 1: and you and other people now know, you know, we

144
00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,440
Speaker 1: know it's a it's a big world of people out

145
00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,040
Speaker 1: there who own TV that uh with tattoos. But but

146
00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,960
Speaker 1: seeing you an attractive person has allowed people to understand

147
00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,360
Speaker 1: that there is value, there's artwork. That's what that's what really,

148
00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,680
Speaker 1: that's what it attracts me, is like you are a

149
00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:40,600
Speaker 1: walking piece of art. Thank you so much. I appreciate that.

150
00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:45,680
Speaker 1: And it's and it's really that's a that's an amazing

151
00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,400
Speaker 1: thing to say that, did you you? You you are

152
00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,880
Speaker 1: a walking piece of piece of art that of course

153
00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,560
Speaker 1: cannot be bought, but can't be sponsored for commercial in

154
00:07:54,640 --> 00:08:00,720
Speaker 1: those And that's that's beautiful because reason I enjoyed talking

155
00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,040
Speaker 1: to you is that cat tattism. Because I just watched

156
00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,360
Speaker 1: your our conversation. I remember when we first started. You know,

157
00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,960
Speaker 1: I can tell you our first conversation. You're trying to

158
00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,760
Speaker 1: find who you are, you know, and you you know

159
00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,720
Speaker 1: you you walked away from the TV show and you

160
00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,040
Speaker 1: didn't you didn't know what the future help. But you

161
00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,920
Speaker 1: were strong and saying I'm gonna make it, I'm gonna

162
00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,559
Speaker 1: be special. And then when you came on the show

163
00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,600
Speaker 1: last year, I could tell it when you when you

164
00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,400
Speaker 1: opened the Tattoos Studio and Beverly Hills, your energy was

165
00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,320
Speaker 1: way up because you really started focusing on and then

166
00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,680
Speaker 1: this whole year just watching you on social media, just

167
00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,800
Speaker 1: watching you your personal growth, your physical growth. You know,

168
00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:41,520
Speaker 1: just now sky's the limit now for you. You know that, right?

169
00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,920
Speaker 1: Thank you? I appreciate that. Yes, that that's absolutely So

170
00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,400
Speaker 1: let's talk about some stuff that's going on that they

171
00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,560
Speaker 1: sent to me. Okay. Cat has been invited by the

172
00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,600
Speaker 1: NFL Players Association to this year's Super Bowl in Miami, Florida.

173
00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,000
Speaker 1: Cat would design, create Super Bowl and inspired artwork, and

174
00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:03,400
Speaker 1: lead the annual National Football League of Players Association Painting

175
00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,360
Speaker 1: with the Pros event at the local Miami Dade County

176
00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,400
Speaker 1: school this year. The school is Carol's City Senior High

177
00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,720
Speaker 1: School that you guys are gonna be How did that happen?

178
00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,080
Speaker 1: How did you How did that come about? And what

179
00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,080
Speaker 1: were your thoughts? Did you? Were you involved and saying

180
00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,280
Speaker 1: this this is the actual concept of what you wanted

181
00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:26,240
Speaker 1: to present at the school? Um? Yeah, this is UM.

182
00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,760
Speaker 1: So this will be the third time, um, the third

183
00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,599
Speaker 1: annual Super Bowl that I've worked with the Players Associations.

184
00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,600
Speaker 1: So I was connected with them about three years ago

185
00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,280
Speaker 1: and we did the first I forgot how it happened,

186
00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,520
Speaker 1: but I met um Carol, she's UM one of the

187
00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,360
Speaker 1: leaden ladies of the association, and um, they partnered with

188
00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,120
Speaker 1: me and they wanted me to design the painting. And

189
00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,440
Speaker 1: back then it was in Minnesota, so you started out Nicole,

190
00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,800
Speaker 1: that's extreme. Now Minnesota, Miami, that's extreme. Now that's extreme,

191
00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,599
Speaker 1: so extreme, my god. And it was so cold that

192
00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,360
Speaker 1: the whole time. And I was born in Minnesota, so

193
00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,840
Speaker 1: I know all about that code, you know, I'm from

194
00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,080
Speaker 1: Chicago to so um, it was a freezing cold. We

195
00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,880
Speaker 1: did what we had to do. We get the paintings

196
00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,640
Speaker 1: with the high school. We went to the events, but

197
00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,960
Speaker 1: other than that, we did not leave that hotel room

198
00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,760
Speaker 1: like we were. It was freezing, but that was an

199
00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,760
Speaker 1: experience and it was just so great to be able

200
00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,960
Speaker 1: to get in there and really do hands on things.

201
00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,760
Speaker 1: Um with high school. I actually, you know, we talked

202
00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,520
Speaker 1: about it, but initially I was going to be a

203
00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,080
Speaker 1: high school math teacher, so I obviously took a different

204
00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,160
Speaker 1: career path. But any time that I can, you know,

205
00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,040
Speaker 1: be back in that environment of being hands on and

206
00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,800
Speaker 1: you know, impacting somebody at such a young age where

207
00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,400
Speaker 1: you can really like make a difference in their future,

208
00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:51,160
Speaker 1: that is what really liked, what thrills me, so, um,

209
00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm blessed, like Minnesota was Um. The first time it

210
00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,600
Speaker 1: was so amazing, and then they asked me back a

211
00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,080
Speaker 1: second time when it was in Atlanta, also amazing. That

212
00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,760
Speaker 1: time it was at Booker T. Washington High School and

213
00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,280
Speaker 1: those kids were so talented, like um they did, the

214
00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,000
Speaker 1: band came through and um, we just painted together. That

215
00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:14,120
Speaker 1: one was amazing. So I'm really really excited for uh

216
00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,160
Speaker 1: this one. This one was gonna be Miami. I'm sure

217
00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,200
Speaker 1: the weather is gonna be nice. I finished my artwork

218
00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,200
Speaker 1: that I submitted for the high school that we're all

219
00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,800
Speaker 1: going to be painting. I kept it real, seeing it

220
00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,400
Speaker 1: real beach vibe Miami, beach vivee. So um, it was

221
00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,319
Speaker 1: very Um. This painting that I designed was inspired by

222
00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,920
Speaker 1: the whole Miami art scene, so I got to get really,

223
00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,680
Speaker 1: really really creative with it. You know, art basils in

224
00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:43,240
Speaker 1: Miami every December. So I think that, um, this time

225
00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:48,240
Speaker 1: it is just gonna be I'm so exciting. I like

226
00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,000
Speaker 1: this conversation because it just shows that you know how

227
00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,200
Speaker 1: the diversity of your life, your personality, you'll give back

228
00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,600
Speaker 1: and because you know that's that's what connected us in

229
00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,000
Speaker 1: our first interview because my degree is in mathematics and

230
00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,720
Speaker 1: you studied math, studied math, and that was always our connection,

231
00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,520
Speaker 1: uh down in Missouri. And so now but again I

232
00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,920
Speaker 1: always tell people, because that's your direction on me, that

233
00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,040
Speaker 1: has to be your final goal. And that's the purpose

234
00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,200
Speaker 1: of money making conversations to tell that story. We're gonna

235
00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,520
Speaker 1: be back with more in our next break with cat Tap.

236
00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about now I hear something about a

237
00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:22,400
Speaker 1: new reality shows that. Okay, cool, We're gonna talk about that.

238
00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that when we come back. And also,

239
00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, I can kind of be mad at you

240
00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,040
Speaker 1: because you was in Atlanta and didn't call your ball,

241
00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,440
Speaker 1: you know. Then then then the d M, the direct

242
00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,240
Speaker 1: message you or something like that you up there freezing

243
00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,880
Speaker 1: your tattoos in Minnesota, will probably ask it for a cope.

244
00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,120
Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more money making conversations. She's

245
00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,319
Speaker 1: here tattoo artists, business owner, painter, philanthropists, social media influencer,

246
00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,480
Speaker 1: a person I've watched grow A first thing I want

247
00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,160
Speaker 1: to call a friend. Um as she as she learns

248
00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,839
Speaker 1: about herself, I think that when I look at my life,

249
00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,960
Speaker 1: you know, I was talking to my friends, uh, and

250
00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,040
Speaker 1: some of our co workers and people are employed, just

251
00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,040
Speaker 1: telling them that, you know, there's no set time when

252
00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,520
Speaker 1: you realize that, hey, I can be and I can

253
00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,320
Speaker 1: push myself forward and I can stand for my brand,

254
00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,440
Speaker 1: stand for what I believe because there are so many

255
00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,240
Speaker 1: people out there. And I will tell you just because

256
00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,400
Speaker 1: your your relatives love you don't mean they give you

257
00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,000
Speaker 1: the best advice. And so when I say that you

258
00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,120
Speaker 1: know cat about you? You know, like I said, you

259
00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,760
Speaker 1: was going to school major in the math, and we

260
00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:25,240
Speaker 1: we joke about how you started uh tattooing in college?

261
00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,880
Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know, just do just let

262
00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,480
Speaker 1: you do it and it came out perfect and then

263
00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,079
Speaker 1: it just and then then the Chicago show and then

264
00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,360
Speaker 1: that then then the transition from that. What made what

265
00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,480
Speaker 1: what makes you believe in Cat Cat the brand? You know,

266
00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:45,440
Speaker 1: your brand? What makes you believe in your brand? Um?

267
00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:50,040
Speaker 1: You know, that's a great question. I think that UM.

268
00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,000
Speaker 1: I guess it does always start with UM at home,

269
00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,199
Speaker 1: like with what's your family? You know, in your support system.

270
00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,720
Speaker 1: I can't say that I would have believed in myself

271
00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,280
Speaker 1: as much if I had a family, you know who

272
00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,280
Speaker 1: was like knocking me down or not believing me. But

273
00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,880
Speaker 1: even when I was in that hardest one of the

274
00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,920
Speaker 1: hardest transitions in my life, dropping out of school, to

275
00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,800
Speaker 1: have that support, um from my family, you know, believing

276
00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,400
Speaker 1: in my dream and just always constantly pushing me. And

277
00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,440
Speaker 1: I remember my brother, uh, you know, going to the

278
00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,920
Speaker 1: library and running me books on tattooing and just constantly

279
00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,560
Speaker 1: pushing me and pushing me. So it's it's just always

280
00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,720
Speaker 1: been instilled in me that that I can do it.

281
00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,760
Speaker 1: It was never a doubt in my mind that I

282
00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,160
Speaker 1: can make it. UM. So I think it's just that

283
00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:42,520
Speaker 1: that resilience, that belief in yourself, that um that keeps

284
00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,000
Speaker 1: me just pushing and always just striving to be great.

285
00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,400
Speaker 1: You know this is really interesting because of the fact

286
00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,000
Speaker 1: that you know, I I'm always finding my voice. I'm

287
00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,880
Speaker 1: always trying to because you know where I can war

288
00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,960
Speaker 1: winning baker managed talent, I produce TV shows, I'll produce

289
00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:03,200
Speaker 1: live advance, and so it's always trying to figure out, Okay,

290
00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:08,000
Speaker 1: who is Roshan McDonald. And so I asked you this question,

291
00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:13,560
Speaker 1: who is Catach? Who is Katrina Jackson? Um? You know what,

292
00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,760
Speaker 1: It's funny because I just did a post about this, right, Um,

293
00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,080
Speaker 1: about how this this last year has like turned me

294
00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,440
Speaker 1: into a businesswoman, Like I have to handle my business,

295
00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,760
Speaker 1: I have so many responsibilities. But what he's gotten me

296
00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,960
Speaker 1: to where I am is the little kid in me,

297
00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,880
Speaker 1: like that that creative spirit that um, that girl that

298
00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,040
Speaker 1: just can feel like a feeling, you know, like that

299
00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,000
Speaker 1: that instinct is you know, like the Holy Spirit like

300
00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,840
Speaker 1: talking to you. So I think that, Um, I'm an

301
00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,480
Speaker 1: artist at hard I'm a hard worker. I'm loving you

302
00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:57,320
Speaker 1: know girl, Um just yeah, you know, and and and

303
00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,720
Speaker 1: I'd say that because of the fact that you are,

304
00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, and everything I say to you, cat is

305
00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,920
Speaker 1: complimentary because I get to see so many different sides

306
00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,000
Speaker 1: of you, and I get to see you know, you know,

307
00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,720
Speaker 1: you say you're a beautiful young lady, and then you know,

308
00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,480
Speaker 1: and and you are fighting the world where when you're

309
00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,600
Speaker 1: walking a room because you're beauty, people can kind of

310
00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,520
Speaker 1: insultantly think that that's all you are. And you have

311
00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,640
Speaker 1: to fight through that as a businesswoman, you know, and

312
00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,080
Speaker 1: then or somebody want to mediately date you or try

313
00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,880
Speaker 1: to get with you, you gotta fight through that, you know,

314
00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,960
Speaker 1: And that's that's insulting because of the fact that you

315
00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,040
Speaker 1: are a businesswoman, like you said, and you're and you

316
00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,600
Speaker 1: have a brand that you're protecting, that you're growing and

317
00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,240
Speaker 1: needs to be respected. And then to say that you're

318
00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,120
Speaker 1: tying yourself with the NFL just the third year. That

319
00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,520
Speaker 1: is important, my friend, that you don't walk away and

320
00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,480
Speaker 1: you don't you don't, you don't lowly promote that this

321
00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,160
Speaker 1: is the this is the most recognized brand and television

322
00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,920
Speaker 1: is the NFL, because the NFL attracts everybody, kids, adults,

323
00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,080
Speaker 1: all sexual genders, you know, or every black, white, Hispanic,

324
00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,919
Speaker 1: you know, everybody watches football. And to say that you

325
00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,320
Speaker 1: are in their third year, promote that don't don't sit

326
00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,520
Speaker 1: on that that's powerful. And the fact that you're going

327
00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,360
Speaker 1: back to change the lines of kids. Promote that that's

328
00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,680
Speaker 1: a powerful moment in your life because of the fact

329
00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,000
Speaker 1: that your brand, it's very special. So now you're gonna

330
00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,240
Speaker 1: take that brand, take another and bet on yourself again.

331
00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:31,040
Speaker 1: The reality TV show New Location Las Vegas. Yes me

332
00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,399
Speaker 1: about that. You know you at least list like, I

333
00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,280
Speaker 1: know we don't have that type of relationship, cat, but

334
00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:37,920
Speaker 1: you can like drop a d M on the brother.

335
00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,000
Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm about to do my next show. Uh

336
00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,040
Speaker 1: we shot on any advice. You know, I know you

337
00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,760
Speaker 1: all world, I know you. I know you're in built grands,

338
00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,520
Speaker 1: you build global regular people and and I just see

339
00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,040
Speaker 1: what you do. I drop it for free because you're

340
00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,840
Speaker 1: my cow. Okay know that. Okay, if you ever start,

341
00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,359
Speaker 1: you call your boy. Okay. This is what I do.

342
00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,960
Speaker 1: This is what I created, money making conversation. It's a mentorship.

343
00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,560
Speaker 1: I can't touch everybody, but I do touch the people

344
00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,040
Speaker 1: who want to listen to what I got to say,

345
00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,200
Speaker 1: and what I had to say works and you win

346
00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,720
Speaker 1: with it. So tell us about this show, yea. So,

347
00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,399
Speaker 1: so I'm looking to expand Enigma. The first year in

348
00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,480
Speaker 1: Los Angeles has been great, and um, I just feel

349
00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,000
Speaker 1: that Las Vegas would be the perfect city to go to.

350
00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,199
Speaker 1: So we're working on opening up a shop in one

351
00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,920
Speaker 1: of the luxury hotels in Las Vegas while documenting um,

352
00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,919
Speaker 1: the struggles and the the successes of being just a

353
00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,600
Speaker 1: young black woman business owner. I'm looking to expand and

354
00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:41,360
Speaker 1: just really being transparent and showing UM from start to finish.

355
00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,960
Speaker 1: You know, So I walked away from Black in Chicago.

356
00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,480
Speaker 1: I opened up you know, Enigma Beverly Hills on my own,

357
00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,280
Speaker 1: and UM, you know, people got to see a little

358
00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,320
Speaker 1: bit of it on social media and where I put

359
00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,439
Speaker 1: out there, but Vegas, it's time to go back to

360
00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,520
Speaker 1: the TV screen. So we're looking to UM, you know,

361
00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,040
Speaker 1: document the entire process show people. We don't want to

362
00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,200
Speaker 1: hide anything. We want people to see UM from start

363
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,639
Speaker 1: to finish, you know, and really take people along on

364
00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,920
Speaker 1: the journey UM of making this dream come true. So

365
00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,840
Speaker 1: let me ask you. The show has been picked up

366
00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,760
Speaker 1: on the network. We're working with different production companies now,

367
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,360
Speaker 1: so it was a bit of a hum a process

368
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,960
Speaker 1: getting completely released from block in Chicago and now we're

369
00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,800
Speaker 1: in talkic other companies. Yeah, that's why didn't mess with

370
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,399
Speaker 1: you because I know, you know, because you're still in

371
00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,400
Speaker 1: the same plane. You're competing now, you know. So that's yeah,

372
00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 1: that's you know, they who they let go. It's really

373
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,600
Speaker 1: interesting you sign these contracts, you know, they put a

374
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,199
Speaker 1: time a time limit on you, or they say you

375
00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,760
Speaker 1: can't you do TV. You do sports, you know you do,

376
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,600
Speaker 1: but you can't do a tattoo show and right right right,

377
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,879
Speaker 1: And it's really really crazy because that's why they hired you,

378
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 1: that's what brought you off. But then there stop you

379
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 1: from making money off your livelihood. So watching these contracts

380
00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,320
Speaker 1: are really important, and being able to get yourself out

381
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 1: of them is equally important because in the end, you know,

382
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,719
Speaker 1: God gave you this talent, they hired, they benefited. I'm

383
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,160
Speaker 1: just talking to everybody in general because it's I've seen

384
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 1: many contracts like this, and I have many contracts conversations

385
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 1: with talent who who just excited to get into business,

386
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 1: so they signed these contracts not looking at the fine details.

387
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 1: Did really want to pay money for? A lawyer? Trusted

388
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 1: the person sit across the other table, other side of

389
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 1: the table, not realizing that person just wanted to get

390
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 1: something to benefit them personally, and use your talent to

391
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,479
Speaker 1: benefit them personally. And so now now you you were

392
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,880
Speaker 1: the production company, you're out there documenting what is when

393
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 1: you I like the fact that you're saying you really

394
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 1: want to show the the painful side of the growth side,

395
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 1: because I remember when I opened my comedy club and

396
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,679
Speaker 1: in Houston, Texas, hip hop common stuff. Lawd knows. I

397
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 1: had the camera follow me around because I didn't know nothing.

398
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,639
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to hire people, how hired family

399
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 1: members who didn't want to work. You know, I did

400
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 1: all the stakes. And so now you're going to Las Vegas.

401
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 1: Now that's already the title sense city. How do you

402
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 1: control your brand? Because now we're talking about your brand now, Catta,

403
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: you know you protected it, You've grown it in Beverly Hills.

404
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 1: Now you're going to Las Vegas. I love that you're

405
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 1: saying you're going into a luxury spot, hotel spot, which

406
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:21,880
Speaker 1: I think it's very smart. What's the future, what's the future. Well,

407
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 1: why do you want to get back When I say

408
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 1: what the future? Why do you want to get back

409
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: on tv UM? Because I think that I can have

410
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: an impact. Um One, I enjoy it, but to UM,

411
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 1: I'm very relatable. I'm super relatable. And the the reaction

412
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 1: and the response that I get from the viewers, my

413
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 1: viewers and my following, and the feedback that they give

414
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 1: me about how me being that transparent helps them it,

415
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 1: that's another thing that's just you know, I like because

416
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: you don't have that many people who are that relatable

417
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 1: and also willing to be super transparent, you know. And

418
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: I feel like the world needs that. I feel like

419
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry and television cable needs that. You know,

420
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 1: I'm a young woman out here trying to get it.

421
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm single, Um, you know what I mean,

422
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 1: And and there's I just feel like there's a lot

423
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: of lessons that I'm that I've gone through and that

424
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,439
Speaker 1: I'm going to continue to go through and make it

425
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: out on top that if other women or young men

426
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: or anybody can see and you know, have have hope

427
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 1: and you know know that there is um the other

428
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: side of those things. I went through some stuff on television.

429
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: You know what people might have like given up one. Well,

430
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you are You are an inspiration.

431
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: Like I said, uh I I've enjoyed and I would

432
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: continue to enjoy watching your growth. That's a cool thing

433
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: about social media. You can just see people an individual,

434
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 1: an individual trans you know, transcend, you start changing, start

435
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 1: elevating and and and comfortable within their skin. And you

436
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: do have a brand that's really really unique and very special.

437
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 1: And I'm talking to mcgaraka tree to Kattat Jackson. She's

438
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: the owner of a Enigma tattoo and Beverly Hills, which

439
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 1: is right there on the corner of Robertson and Pico

440
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 1: right there, and uh, I want to know she's doing

441
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: a great event. Third year with the National Football League

442
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: Players Association Painting with the pros again. I always want

443
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 1: to appreciate you taking the time to be on my show.

444
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,239
Speaker 1: But know this, it's our third year talking you know,

445
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 1: off air. I'll promote anything for you. You not have

446
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 1: not used me because I just want to let you

447
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 1: know a lot of people understand why I created money

448
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: making conversation. Money making conversation is I know my brand

449
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: and I know my brand grows just a certain I

450
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 1: reached females of my follows a female, So no, I'm

451
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: reaching the target that you there will be rare relatable

452
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: to you. And so always use me in a good

453
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 1: way to help build your brand. And if you ever

454
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 1: need any advice, always hook up calls somebody that they're

455
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 1: connect me because you got access to me like that. Okay,

456
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: catch absolutely, I appreciate that. And look, we got to

457
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: make a promise to each other. When you're in l A,

458
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: you better come. And when I'm in Atlanta, I'm stopping by.

459
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: Promise done deal, And you might see me in Miami,

460
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: so I know it's because Steven and Smith talking about

461
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 1: he's going down there, so you might and not know

462
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: what I know. And I know the president of the

463
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: Players Association. I know I would ask him so he'd

464
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 1: get me in on anything I need. And that guy

465
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: Troy Evincing, he's the vice president of operations. I know

466
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: he'll get me in. So you may see me in

467
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 1: Miami and we take herself together, We take herself together. Okay,

468
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: absolutely stay strong. I appreciate you and we will be

469
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 1: talking soon. By Boye