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Speaker 1: We do Hello man, short, simple, sweet, prime, magic, Dwight

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Speaker 3: Gim me Dwight Howard all day. I can't believe I'm

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Speaker 3: there was an argument for Dwight Hower to win MVP

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Speaker 2: It is prime Dwight. Like you're saying, there, Frey to

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Speaker 3: Oh come on, you could say. You wouldn't say he

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Speaker 3: do the flex Yeah. Okay, but you tell me about

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Speaker 3: the highlight tape of him, you know, dunking all over people,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think Joel has a few

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Speaker 5: I think prime Dwight, no question. Yeah, you mentioned all

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Speaker 5: I would definitely take Dwat. In fact, wouldn't it be

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Speaker 5: Joel is a good player, and he's a good defensive player,

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Speaker 5: and he's a good offensive player, but he's nowhere near

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not a question. It is kind of crazy. But

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Speaker 1: it's definitely Dwight Howard. You could count on him night

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Speaker 1: Embiid is going to give you. And as a coach,

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Speaker 1: with Joel Embiid, it's not it's not plannable, that's not

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Speaker 1: But no, I think Dwight Howard is going to be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all, it's been some good things. Maybe coming out

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Speaker 2: all that set up, and now like just this crazy

433
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 2: like I don't know if it's three sixty, but it

434
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 2: goes around quite far. This just crystal clear video board

435
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 2: of fans, you know, in little boxes. It looks sort

436
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,640
Speaker 2: of cool. They don't have them in like those fake

437
00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 2: weird little seats that you know, Micheloboltro is doing, which

438
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,119
Speaker 2: actually I think sort of looks better. But look it

439
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 2: looks neat just with the lading in general, looks pretty cool.

440
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 2: The Thunderdome, I think it was Summer Slam last weekend, Trey.

441
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened, but yeah, it's Summer Slam already.

442
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 2: I mean, I know this is this year, just like

443
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 2: that summer summer is over it.

444
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 5: Speaking of WWE, I guess I've gone for the last

445
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 5: time because our friend Renee Young is no longer with

446
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 5: the WWE.

447
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 2: She's been so.

448
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah yeah, Renee Piquette, she's moved back, So I

449
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 5: guess that's it. I'm not going to the wrestling anymore.

450
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,120
Speaker 5: That's a good run, I mean, you too, or yeah

451
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 5: it was great. Yeah, you had more fun than anybody

452
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 5: in that arena.

453
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 2: For sure.

454
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 5: Well, definitely the first time anyway, when we were basically ringside,

455
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 5: But the seconds I were up in the nose leads,

456
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 5: wasn't It's fun?

457
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,160
Speaker 2: But oh you haven't seen the rumor truly?

458
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:47,159
Speaker 5: What's that?

459
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 2: Renee Piquette is actually taking your job here? I know.

460
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 5: That's fine, all right, she's pretty good. We made a

461
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 5: little bit of diversity, I agree, But I joined the

462
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 5: wrestling world then, okay.

463
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 2: What would you do? You'd be a good uh yeah,

464
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 2: you'd be a great like manager.

465
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 5: Look give me the mouth from the south. Yeah, all right,

466
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 5: why not fix it up? Variety is the spice of

467
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 5: life after all?

468
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 2: A right, who would you like? Who would you like

469
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 2: your wrestler to be? If you were a manager? For

470
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 2: some much?

471
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 5: I mean, I had how to know Brian what's his name?

472
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 5: Johnny Bryan, Johnny O'Brien from the Wizards. I have no

473
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 5: idea who the Daniel Bryan, Daniel Bryan, Daniel Bryan. Yes, yeah,

474
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 5: he no.

475
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 2: Longer does that, I don't think. But things move quickly, and.

476
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 5: Oh they do, man, they do. You got to bring

477
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 5: back the great Kylie.

478
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: He was.

479
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 5: He was a dude, I remember, But does he still wrestle?

480
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,959
Speaker 3: He'll show up at a Royal rumble every now and then,

481
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 3: him and John Bryan.

482
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: He jumped on here, what do you got?

483
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got I got three. The first one is

484
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 4: is goat. I always think of the survivor person you

485
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,679
Speaker 4: bring to the end in traffic Council. That's a sacrificial

486
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 4: is the opposite of the greatest of all time. So

487
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 4: every time I see that, I think, oh, that guy,

488
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 4: that guy must suck or.

489
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah, I would drag them to the end

490
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 2: and survivor too. Yeah, who's gonna give them money? They

491
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 2: already exactly.

492
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: Uh.

493
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 4: The second one is Miami whatever I type it out

494
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 4: for like my like am I m I A missing

495
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 4: an Action? I think of it all the time, the

496
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 4: great Chuck Norris movie Missing an Action.

497
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: Uh.

498
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 4: And then another The last one is a weird one.

499
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 4: Every time I see date of birth d O B.

500
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 4: I think of this movie poster. I've never seen the movie.

501
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 4: It's Blake Edwards s O B. I've never actually seen it,

502
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 4: but I think of it. Literally every time I see

503
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 4: date of birth that I write my date of birth,

504
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 4: I think of this this cow thing or bowl or

505
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 4: whatever it is.

506
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, smoking a cigar City that was a movie.

507
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: That's a movie called S O B.

508
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 2: But how old in the eighties?

509
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 4: Oh, guys, I gotta be probably late seventies if I

510
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 4: had to guess. And I've already I remember like walking

511
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 4: through a video store and always seeing the Beta Max,

512
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 4: like the beta cover.

513
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: Of it, and I'm like, I gotta, I gotta watch

514
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: this movie.

515
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 4: But I was never allowed to get it because it

516
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 4: was sort of you know, like restricted back then for me.

517
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: So what's the plot of that?

518
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 2: I have no idea.

519
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 4: I think it's a Hollywood store. I think that it's

520
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 4: about a guy who's a director, So I should really

521
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 4: watch it.

522
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's right up my alley.

523
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 5: You had beta not VHS.

524
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, my dad he was he was always the guy

525
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 4: get we had in television. Instead of Atari, we had

526
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 4: a Beta Max, a top loading Beta Max. I was like, oh,

527
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 4: your movies are over there in that one corner of

528
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,719
Speaker 4: the entire video star. But my dad he was like,

529
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 4: held strong. Yeah, but the picture quality, son, the picture

530
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 4: quality is so much better.

531
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: What everything?

532
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 2: Did you have laser? Did you have laser discs?

533
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 4: And we never got into the laser. He learned his

534
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 4: lesson actually after twenty years.

535
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta get together and watch sobs.

536
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

537
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 2: Blake Edwards, I guess, and.

538
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 3: Apparently has pretty decent reviews. Alexander Ellis is saying in

539
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 3: the chat eighty two percent on rotten to me, Wow,

540
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 3: all right, not so bad. Let's fire it up film session, right, Skates.

541
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: Should have rented this season way back on? All right?

542
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 2: What were gonna say there? Lead anything that?

543
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 5: No, just no, it doesn't bad that Simson's quite but

544
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 5: it probably would go everyone's head. You know when Snake

545
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 5: steals the there's a looting going onto the city and

546
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 5: he steals the video machine, he goes, oh noa yeah.

547
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: That timing, Thank god, I'm vent sure to go back

548
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: to you like I did a good impersonation, though, to

549
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: be honest, what your best work? All right? Next one man,

550
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: dear Dunk Dodgers. For reasons I do not feel comfortable disclosing,

551
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: I was thinking about Lebron James Legacy. Anthony Davis has

552
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: played rather well during the bubble so far, and I

553
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: could definitely see the Lakers having a deep playoff run.

554
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 2: How would Lebron be perceived if his Lakers win one

555
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 2: or more rings over the next couple of years with

556
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 2: ad receiving Finals MVP each time. A similar situation happened

557
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: to Kareem Abdul Jabbar, although he did win another Finals

558
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 2: MVP in eighty five. Would Lebron's argument for GOAT be

559
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: stronger or weaker if he won three more Let's say, well,

560
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis was the best player love the show. That's

561
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 2: from Paul.

562
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 3: I'll go first.

563
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: His argument if he wins three more titles for Goat,

564
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 2: not survivor Goat, but NBA Goat is gonna be a

565
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 2: lot stronger. Okay. I don't think it's going to diminish

566
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: his resume if he just adds more rings, even if

567
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 2: he isn't you know, the finals MVP or even considered

568
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 2: the best player on the team, if that went to eight.

569
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 2: That's my that's my take on this, guys. I don't know.

570
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: Am I crazy? He's not. It's not going to be

571
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,239
Speaker 2: weaker if Lebron adds more rings again, no matter if

572
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: he's the second or third best player on the team.

573
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 5: In my opinion, well, I kind of look at it

574
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 5: like Shaq winning the one in Miami.

575
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: Sure, well that's it helps I think make my point,

576
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: right Shaq?

577
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 5: You don't say, well, he won three and then kind

578
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 5: of a fourth, you say he won four. You know,

579
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 5: even though Dwayne Wade was the finals MFPA, Shack is

580
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 5: still very very good in that series, but he wasn't

581
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 5: the best player. But it's like without Shack, they probably

582
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 5: don't even make it to the finals. So and Lebron's

583
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 5: at a better level still of where Shaq was, I

584
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 5: think then, so career, I think it's yeah, it's all

585
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 5: about the championship at the end of the day, because

586
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 5: you know, Lebron's going to be second best player at worse.

587
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: It's going to be instrumental championship.

588
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: Yes, if you're being impartial, yes, it does make sense.

589
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: Lebron's six titles. Let's say he wins three in a row,

590
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: he would be six and six in NBA Finals. But

591
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: if you're a Michael Jordan goat man, that's all you

592
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: have to say six and zero versus six and six,

593
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: because Lebron is three and six currently in his nine

594
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: NBA Finals appearances. So that's what a Michael Jordan goat

595
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: will throw at you.

596
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: Well, they would also add to that, they'd say Jordan

597
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 2: won finals MVP.

598
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: Every time, right exactly. Yeah, and he wasn't the best player. Well, so, yeah,

599
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: it's what I guess. I guess what it is that

600
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: if you're a Jordan goat supporter, then nothing's going to change.

601
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: Nothing that Lebron's going to change the next few years,

602
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: unless I guess if he is finals MVPN they win three.

603
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: But still you still have that argument that six and

604
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: zero versus six and six if that was the.

605
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: Case Trey, six is a notable number. Lebron's case would

606
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 3: be strong and if he were to do it, if

607
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 3: he were to get the six titles, but for whatever reason,

608
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: Anthony Davis takes home Finals MVP, the argument would immediately

609
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 3: become look at what Lebron James did later in his

610
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,239
Speaker 3: career molding his game around Anthony Davis. Michael Jordan never

611
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 3: did that. Michael Jordan was never ever to take a

612
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 3: back seat and be the number two guy on a team.

613
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: So you know the stories will change. But six is

614
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 3: a big number. If Lebron gets the six, his case

615
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: is going to be pretty strong.

616
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes it stronger, definitely does not make it

617
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: weaker in any case in my opinion. Well, let's hear

618
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: from you guys out there again, tweeted in at no dunk,

619
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: sink or jump in the comments.

620
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: Thanks for the question. Next one here? What's up, fellas?

621
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: I wonder what pending free agents you guys think have

622
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: earned themselves a new contract in the bubble. Jeff Green

623
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: and Tyler Johnson are two guys that were pulled off

624
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: the scrap heap and exceeded expectations. Gorn Dragic has shown

625
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: he's still damn good at basketball. What do you think?

626
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: Love the show? Keep it up? Loving that bubble life?

627
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: That's from Judd in Kenora Trey. What do you think

628
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: who's earned themselves a new contract?

629
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: A guy similar to Jeff Green in that he is

630
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 3: widely derided for just going after his and not showing

631
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: up every single game, but has been good since the

632
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: trade deadline. Jordan Clarkson has been great for the Jazz

633
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 3: and I think he's a guy that you're going to

634
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 3: have to take a look at because, uh, he's in

635
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: that JR. Smith classic six man mold up. You put

636
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 3: him in and he's going to shoot every single time

637
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 3: and some night he's going to get really hot. He's

638
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: been instrumental in a lot of the smaller lineups that

639
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: Utah has been rolling out there fifteen and a half

640
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: points a game, forty six percent shooting. That's very good

641
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 3: for Jordan Clarkson, thirty six from three, and he can

642
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: get your shot anytime because he's willing to take a

643
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: shot at anytime. Those kind of players are valuable to me,

644
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 3: and you're seeing it when they're put into a winning

645
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: situation and told just be yourself, just do exactly what

646
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 3: you're supposed to do. It can be successful. You know,

647
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: Jordan Clarkson didn't work out for the Lakers, didn't really

648
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: work out when he was with Cleveland, but now that

649
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: he's with the Jazz, people are seeing him in a

650
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 3: little bit new light.

651
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Speaker 2: Myself included what type of contract would Jordan Clarkson you

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Speaker 2: think be looking at Trey, Like, where would you start?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, twelve a year, fifteen a year, something

654
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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 2: I sort of think that's exactly where my mind went

656
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Speaker 2: about that ballpark.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, and that's what he's making right now. Brox

658
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Speaker 1: my thirteen mils. Yeah, coming into this year, you were

659
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Speaker 1: coming into this postseason, you wouldn't think you would have

660
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Speaker 1: got anywhere close to that, But yeah, he's there in it.

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Speaker 5: He can be potentially Alut Williams lot in that if

662
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 5: he comes off the bench, it just starts firing away

663
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 5: because he's always had an inconsistent and unreliable shot. But

664
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Speaker 5: it's it's sort of gotten better in new time. Maybe

665
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 5: it's a system, maybe it's a different coach, but yeah,

666
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 5: he's he's played well enough that someone will wanted that

667
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 5: production to come in for sure.

668
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Speaker 2: And he's twenty eight, I mean just turn twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's in his prime really, I mean right there,

670
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Speaker 2: So you would hope he could at least maintain these

671
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: sort of levels of play for the next couple of years. Yeah,

672
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: that fifteen mil, now I think about it, sounds I

673
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: didn't realize he made thirteen million. So yeah, you're gonna

674
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: you're gonna assume he's gonna want to pay increase and

675
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: maybe he has earned it for sure. That's a good one.

676
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: Who else, what Ell any other guys would add to.

677
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Speaker 5: This, Well, Mellow's played himself back into the league again

678
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 5: for another season, whether it's with Portland or not, someone

679
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 5: will definitely for the same sort of reason there with

680
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Speaker 5: Jordan Clarkson that Mellow is still getting a bucket. I

681
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 5: mean it ended terribly for him there in Houston, but

682
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 5: in that role in Portland, he was like, you know

683
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 5: what's in the corner, you can knock down some three Still,

684
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 5: so I think he probably only gets sort of a

685
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Speaker 5: one year minimum somewhere. I'd be very shocked if he's

686
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 5: not in the league again next season.

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Speaker 1: Tass Guys Dad Trey Burke was picked up off the

688
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Speaker 1: scrap heap. He was signed as a substitution player on

689
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: July first for the Dallas Mavericks. The Philadelphia seventy six

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Speaker 1: ers would have loved to have Trey Burke, but maybe

691
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: he's found his place in the league the way he's

692
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: scoring as a six man, perhaps as a guy who

693
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Speaker 1: just gets the ball and scores. Literally making one hundred

694
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Speaker 1: and eighty thousand K this year, but he'll be making

695
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Speaker 1: a contract next year. And I think Alec Burks is

696
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Speaker 1: another guy that he was kind of, you know, sort

697
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Speaker 1: of in that Jordan Clarkson role, you think you could

698
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: get you a bucket. But his stock has fallen over

699
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: the last few years a little bit. You know, going

700
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: from from Utah, that was definitely peek Alec Burks, But

701
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Speaker 1: then you know his stints in Cleveland and Golden State.

702
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: We're fine. But now I think he's going to earn

703
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: himself a real contract. I think he's he's he's earned it.

704
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Speaker 1: And speaking of contracts, Fred van Vliet future Finals MVP,

705
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: that's what I though, super max max Max maxback. I

706
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: wonder if he's getting the max. I think I think

707
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: it's possible. I think it's very possible that he's earned.

708
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Speaker 2: It it definitely. Yeah, it feels like he's added like

709
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: a million dollars after every game to his potential new

710
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: contract because he just keeps performing and hitting big shots

711
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: and putting up monster numbers and the Raptors keep winning. Yeah,

712
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: he's gonna make himself a nice little amount of money,

713
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: and rightfully so betting on himself. Those little money bags

714
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Speaker 2: Fred van Vliet is gonna actually get them here whenever

715
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: we have a next season. For sure, those are good ones.

716
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Speaker 2: Let's hear from you guys. I know we're missing some.

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00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: I wonder if lou Dort, who signed that deal with Oka,

718
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: see you know, just a little bit before the hiatus

719
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Speaker 1: four years for five point four million. He's done a

720
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: decent job on James Harden. Is there a way you

721
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,920
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722
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: now and saying, find a way renegotiate that thing. Man

723
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: five point four over four years, he's worth more than that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but don't worry. That's an American right, so you

725
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726
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Speaker 2: All right, back to our questions, Hey, guys, I feel

797
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: like in the Miami half of the twenty tens there

798
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: was this super strong sentiment against flopping in the NBA.

799
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 2: Ethos players were fined, Bosh was ridiculed, and fans seem

800
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: to be outraged by the newest flop every night. But

801
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: now it seems nobody talks about flopping. What changed? Is

802
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: there less flopping in the league or do we as

803
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: fans just accept it now? I'd love to hear your

804
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: thoughts on this with love. That's from Samuelai, Samue Lee, Samuelai.

805
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but Lee get a start. It is

806
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: he right? What do you think?

807
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 5: I think this is less generic flopping as in in

808
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 5: play flopping. I think you're still gonna see guys go

809
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 5: down easy. You're trying to get a charge in the paint.

810
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 5: That's kind of happens because you see, like big guys

811
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 5: get hit and all of a sudden they dive back,

812
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 5: but they often are doing that just to get the charge.

813
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 5: And I think that's acceptable because you're making a play.

814
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 5: But what I think we have largely gotten rid of

815
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 5: is just the sort of you know, a guy dribbling

816
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 5: out the court and another guy just like, you know,

817
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 5: going down so easily, trying to draw a cheaper charge. Then,

818
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 5: And I think because I don't remember the last person

819
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 5: who got fined five thousand dollars for flopping, because I

820
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 5: think it's sort of yeah, I think people kind of

821
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 5: got a little bit embarrassed and humiliated when it was

822
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 5: like a press release came out and said this guy

823
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 5: was fine for flopping and for or embellishment or whatever

824
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 5: they called it. And so I think it has kind

825
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 5: of slowly eradicated a little bit from the main play.

826
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 5: But as I say, I think you're still going to

827
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 5: see in the paint, You're still going to see that

828
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 5: because that's a sort of accepted area of like if

829
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 5: you get there first, you're trying to sell the contact

830
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 5: and it often works. I don't see that in the

831
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,959
Speaker 5: same way as like, you know, we've seen Chris Paul

832
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 5: in the past running and all of a sudden he

833
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 5: flopped his arms back or his head back.

834
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Speaker 2: He still does that. I mean, Jill Lowry still does that. Yeah,

835
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: they're smart, still does that. I still I don't.

836
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 5: Think though it's as prominent as it was for a while.

837
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 5: I think it really became an issue and that's why

838
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 5: they had to change the rule. And then when guys again,

839
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 5: I mean, the five thousand dollars is nothing to anybody,

840
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 5: but it's more just like you're a flopper, and people

841
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 5: don't want to get labeled that. So I think so

842
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 5: I think we were at a bit of place with

843
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 5: the flops all right.

844
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 3: According to my research, the most recent flop fine was

845
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 3: Patrick Beverley in November of twenty nineteen. Before that, though,

846
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: Marcus Smart in April twenty sixteen, we went about three

847
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 3: and a half years without a flopping fine, and I

848
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 3: think that was the big deal, like Lee saying, they

849
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: put in this rule, and it was just the NBA

850
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 3: giving a little attention to this issue that people were,

851
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 3: you know, lasting some players for during broadcasts on Twitter,

852
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 3: that kind of thing. They gave out enough fines to

853
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: the point where people are like, Okay, they care about it,

854
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 3: and now people are flopping just as much as they were,

855
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: but there's the idea that they could get fined. So

856
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 3: maybe it feels like there's a little bit less of it,

857
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: But I think there's still quite a bit of flopping

858
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 3: in the league. You just hear selling it more often

859
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: than you hear flopping nowadays.

860
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would add to that. I think the reps

861
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Speaker 1: do a good call, a good call, a good job

862
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: of not calling flops and just allowing play to continue.

863
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: I think I've seen a decent amount of that this postseason,

864
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,959
Speaker 1: where guys are just flopping on the floor and trying

865
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: to draw a call, but it's not whistled, and so

866
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: there's no attention drawn to it. And I think, yeah,

867
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: it's just a little bit more in the play, I guess,

868
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: part of basketball and not sort of egregious flops anymore,

869
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: I think, And it probably worked. I think the whipping

870
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: of the whips has helped a little bit. I would

871
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: I would be surprised if you guys knew this. Kyle

872
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: Lowry led the league in charges this season played. You know,

873
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: throughout the regular season. How many do you think he had?

874
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: It's like thirty plus, isn't it for thirty four something exactly?

875
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: Thirty four? My man knows thirty four, So that's one

876
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: every almost two games. So it's not a lot of

877
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 1: charges drawn. You think that Kyle Lowry d not a lot.

878
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 3: But you also do know that he's falling down every

879
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 3: single game.

880
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I would like to know his charge is

881
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 5: attempted because he's probably he's probably charges. He's probably at

882
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 5: one a game for that at least.

883
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I think you're right to ask, like the

884
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: the number one way to always try and reduce guys

885
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: flopping is Yeah, like the shame of a of a

886
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: press release and the and the five thousand dollars. Fine,

887
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 2: I get what you guys are saying. Maybe that worked too,

888
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 2: But truthfully, the way you stop it is you don't

889
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 2: call anything just because a guy drops to the floor,

890
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,959
Speaker 2: especially if he's embellishing it. You don't have to stop play.

891
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: And that was there was a time there in the

892
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: NBA where somebody hit the ground it was stopped to

893
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 2: play like it was like a whistle has to be called.

894
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: You if you if you stop calling the whistle there, well,

895
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 2: then the guy that tried to flop is actually hurting

896
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: his team right now, his team is at a disadvantage

897
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: of play continues. You know, he's fallen over and you know,

898
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: if he had the ball sometimes he'll just straight up

899
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 2: call a traveler or whatever. So like that is the

900
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: best way. Now it's not. It's not an easy call

901
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 2: or non call for an official. I get that. That's tough.

902
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: I mean, did he actually get hit, did he actually

903
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: really get knocked over? How much is he selling it?

904
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: Like right there? Bang bang call that, But that was

905
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: always the best way to try and reduce flopping. I'm

906
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: not calling that, and you're actually hurting your team. You

907
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: know you're putting your team at a disadvantage now because

908
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 2: you're lying on the ground like it'll flopping around like

909
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: a fish. So I'm with you on that task. I

910
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 2: think they have done a better job. I think all

911
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 2: of this like what you guys are saying, but there

912
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: is definitely still flopping. We talked about the heart and

913
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,479
Speaker 2: Chris Paul double flop at the end of that game.

914
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 2: I mean that was like obviously a huge play in

915
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: that moment in that game, and both of those guys

916
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 2: were just trying to be crafty, anything to get the whistle.

917
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 2: And that's what it is. It's like Chris Paul and

918
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: Lowry especially, there is almost a respect to it at

919
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 2: a weird part where you're just like, God, it's annoying.

920
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: But those guys will just do anything, anything including throwing

921
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: their body around as if they're a wrestler, to sell

922
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: it to try and get the whistle for their team.

923
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: But it's only acceptable to me for two reasons. Number One,

924
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 3: both Lowry and Chris pauler short guys. They can be

925
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: taking charges. That's fine. You can get knocked over by

926
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 3: somebody that's a foot and a half taller than you.

927
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 3: Fine with that. But number two most important, they've got

928
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: the TA. Both of these guys have TA, right, so

929
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 3: you have something soft to land on, you got to

930
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 3: put it to good use. Yeah.

931
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: I could never do what they do, and I aloud,

932
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 2: just my butt would break in half. Yeah.

933
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. As Brad beats and comments here in the chat,

934
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: thirty four charges for Kyle Lowry. That's a bruised boose. Yeah,

935
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: I guess it is. And Tolga Kaplan also points out

936
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: here Kyle Lowry had two charges taken in the All

937
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: Star Game. It's a great point.

938
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 2: Wow, it's a great point.

939
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 5: Wow.

940
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, not part of his his thirty four whatever he

941
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: had during the season. That's an increase to thirty six.

942
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: The guy's a winner, man. Yeah.

943
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: But it's like, okay, like I know, it sort of

944
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: goes hand in hand. But a lot of the charges, honestly,

945
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 2: and I'm not just defending Lowry. The charges are he's

946
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: stepping in there, he's sacrificing his body and he's taking

947
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: a hit, and I mean there is contact. I mean,

948
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: now we could argue whether that should he be even

949
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 2: in the game sliding over me. We should just get

950
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 2: rid of charge completely. The ones I can't stand though

951
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: Lowry does it so don't get me wrong, he's my

952
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: favorite player, but he does it and it annoys me.

953
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: Chris Paul is they have the ball, yeah, the dribbler,

954
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: they get the guy on their back, you know, and

955
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 2: then they literally just will be hit because they've stopped dribbling,

956
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 2: and then they flop and now it's like a call

957
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: on the defense. It's like that's not really basketball at all.

958
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 2: I mean, you're you are literally just gaming the system

959
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 2: here because you've just stopped and because you're you know,

960
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: you're so damn smart, you're so crafty that now there's

961
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: contact and then you just flop your body like I

962
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: hate those ones. The charge is a little different to me,

963
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 2: but yeah.

964
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 5: I agree with that one as well. That is nothing

965
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 5: more crazy than when Chris Baul will actually divert his

966
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 5: line going into someone and then jump on the ground.

967
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 5: But again, the guys we sort of talk about are

968
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 5: the same sort of guys. It's not a League white problem.

969
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 5: I don't think you don't see so many guys just

970
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 5: all of a sudden doing that sort of stuff. So

971
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 5: it's these guys, these crafty old dudes who are just

972
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 5: can't get out of this system, I think more so

973
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 5: than a major problem across the league with every team.

974
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 3: Wells Tolga made another great point actually that we used

975
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: to worry about hack a shack a lot too right,

976
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 3: and they came out with the rule with that and

977
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 3: basically ended hack a shack. People still get intentionally fouled,

978
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 3: but it's not as big of a deal. The next

979
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 3: league wide issue I think that needs to be addressed

980
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 3: is the pump fake and the three the fake somebody

981
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 3: gets up and you lead into that, because that's something

982
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 3: that everybody does, do you know. The there's still rip

983
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 3: moves that we see around the league, but the basically

984
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: the league see these little annoying things, these little loopholes,

985
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: and they figure out a way to close it. And

986
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 3: it doesn't totally close it, but at least makes players

987
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 3: think about it that we're not going to be getting

988
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 3: that call. So the next thing is going to be

989
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 3: the pump fake, the lean into the guy, you're kind

990
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 3: of chucking it up. You know, they've all the time.

991
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: It's not as much anymore, but but that's the that's

992
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: the crazy next that's going to be legislated out for sure.

993
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's absolutely true.

994
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: Aesthetically watching a basketball game. That's the one that stands

995
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: out the most for sure is a guy going horizontal

996
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: trying to draw a call and it's it's a non

997
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: basketball motion. I'll tell you that we're going to hear

998
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: that a lot from the referees when they're emphasizing their points,

999
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: the old poes, the points of emphastis. I did one

1000
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: thing I'd like to add, Chris Paul Standard. Yeah, he

1001
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: goes from going towards the hoop to going towards the

1002
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: sideline to hit ram into a guy. I thought guys

1003
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: trying to draw fouls by yelling would be pretty prominent

1004
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: in the in the bubble because there was no sound,

1005
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 1: it would be able to pick it up on MIC's.

1006
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: You know, Lebron does it a lot. Guys go into

1007
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: the lane ah just to try and sell the call

1008
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: a little bit when they get hit. But maybe it's

1009
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: because they don't want to get embarrassed and they don't

1010
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: want friends like worldwide while putting them on Twitter. They're

1011
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: not yelling, they're not screaming. We don't hear it that much, right,

1012
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 1: Like it's I heard it more than the regular season.

1013
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: Now, I feel like we've heard more people screaming and

1014
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: one on missus because they've got hit. You hear those

1015
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: on the broadcast down, Yeah, for sure, just because we

1016
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: can hear it better. But no, you're right. There's been

1017
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 2: a lot of whistles though, and we talked about that, like,

1018
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,479
Speaker 2: are they just hearing contact more and maybe they're hearing

1019
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: the grunts and the slaps.

1020
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: And all that a little bit more could be the case.

1021
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 2: Who knows?

1022
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: All right? Next one here? This next one. It comes

1023
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: from a Reddit user who submitted a male question during

1024
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: the athletic am a we did on Wednesday, Dear no

1025
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: dunk renos. During these playoffs, I've been having a blast

1026
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: watching the incredible performances of the NBA's young stars like

1027
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: Luca Donovan, Mitchell, and very unexpectedly for me at least,

1028
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: Jamal Murray. For the longest time, I thought that Denver

1029
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: made a mistake giving Jamal a huge extension, but his

1030
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: godly performance has made me change my tune. My question

1031
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: is which player have you been very down on in

1032
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: the past only to eventually end up admiring turn up?

1033
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: Love you guys awesome. That's from user wkio two on

1034
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: NBA reddits. So, Lee, what do you think about that.

1035
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 5: Well, Yeah, A guy who I really love enjoy watching

1036
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 5: playing right now, who I used to hate is Marcus Smart.

1037
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 5: I love watching that guy because he's not the guy

1038
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 5: who's going to go out there and give you thirty

1039
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 5: five points, but he is going to play some incredible

1040
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 5: defense and just make those highlight hustle players that the

1041
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 5: Celtics talk about, and a lot of people don't really

1042
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 5: if you're not a big basketball fan, you might not

1043
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 5: recognize the impact he has on a game, but I do,

1044
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 5: and I love watching. I mean one of the plays

1045
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 5: we saw in that game, I think it was Game

1046
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 5: four against the Sixers where he had that sort of

1047
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 5: interception from Joel Embiid's cross court pass that he turned

1048
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 5: into a direct pass to Tatum Brown or Tatum and

1049
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 5: then they go down and score and it kind of

1050
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 5: sealed the game for them. And that's the thing with

1051
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 5: Marcus Smart is like he is not He's not never

1052
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 5: going to get paid like the twenty five million dollars

1053
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 5: a year because he doesn't score enough, and that's tends

1054
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 5: to be where the bigger money goes to. But I

1055
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 5: think the Celtics at least show to him how much

1056
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 5: they appreciate and understand what he brings to that team

1057
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 5: because he's always on the end of I was on

1058
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 5: the court at the end of games because he can

1059
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 5: create defensive possessions for them, and I think that's great.

1060
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 5: And you know, he wants to shoot a little bit more.

1061
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 5: That's understandable when you're a team with Kember Jalen, Jason Tatum,

1062
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 5: and Gordon Hayward. When he's there, there ain't a lot

1063
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 5: of shots to go around after that, so you have

1064
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 5: to actually put your ego to the side a bit

1065
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 5: like Marcus Smart and be like, well, I understand that

1066
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 5: I'm not going to be that guy. I'm never going

1067
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 5: to be the focal point of this team's offense, so

1068
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 5: I have to sort of live off the scraps of

1069
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 5: whatever so I can get on the offensive end. So

1070
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 5: he's improved his three point shooting. But I just really

1071
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 5: enjoy from when he came into league. I thought, this

1072
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 5: guy just doesn't really do much. He doesn't score enough,

1073
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 5: he doesn't shoot well, and on the defensive end, he's

1074
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 5: a bit of a hustler, but not much. But now

1075
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 5: he's really worked on that part of his game in

1076
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 5: a you know, in a Dennis Rodman light way, like

1077
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 5: you know that he just can go out there and

1078
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 5: you see him as a help defender. He's great. He's

1079
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 5: getting into passing lanes. He can defend his own player

1080
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 5: one on one very well. So he does so many

1081
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 5: things for them on that end and then on the offensive,

1082
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 5: and he just has to live with whatever he can get.

1083
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 5: But he's he's being able to accept that role. And

1084
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 5: I think that's that's pretty good of him because a

1085
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 5: couple of years ago, when he's a free agent, there

1086
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 5: was talk about him going elsewhere. But I think he realized,

1087
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 5: like the Celtics do appreciate what I bring to the table,

1088
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 5: even though I'm not gonna get paid, you know the bigger,

1089
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 5: bigger bucks like the Haywoods and the Browns and the Titans,

1090
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 5: and say that's something he has to accept. And I

1091
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 5: think he's done a great job with that.

1092
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're playing pick up basketball and you're you know,

1093
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 2: picking your teams before you start to play, you always

1094
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: want a guy like Marcus Smart on your team. Like

1095
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: he's not gonna be probably the first or second pick,

1096
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 2: but he's gonna be like, you know, that third or

1097
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 2: fourth pick of the captains like, I want that guy

1098
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 2: because it's going to help our chances to win. And

1099
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 2: you won't care if he has to take a ton

1100
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 2: of shots. But he's gonna bring it defensively.

1101
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't want him guarding you god, yeah, no, no,

1102
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 3: exactly opponents.

1103
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: It's the last thing you want. So, yeah, you want

1104
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: to get.

1105
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 3: Him on your it is. It's still fun when he

1106
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 3: does get to actually be the number one guy. There

1107
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 3: was a game this season when Marcus Smart took twenty

1108
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 3: two threes one game. Do you guys remember that he

1109
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 3: made eleven of them? It was crazy. It feels like

1110
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 3: every time he takes a shot, you're like, this is

1111
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 3: an airball or a swish, there's nothing in between. It's exciting.

1112
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's a great one. What about you, Trey,

1113
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: Is there any other player that you were, you know,

1114
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 2: down on in the past and have come to admire.

1115
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 3: I can't believe it. I like I like him? Yeah.

1116
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: Man.

1117
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 3: All he had to do was a start being nice

1118
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 3: to people and completely changed my mind on him. You know,

1119
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 3: it was just so distasteful to me. Like there was

1120
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 3: that clip when he was with the Clippers, DeAndre Jordan

1121
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 3: grabs a rebound, he makes a massive brain fart. There's

1122
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 3: like a second left, he doesn't put it up, and

1123
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 3: Chris Paul is just braiding him, just screaming at him,

1124
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 3: and was like, oh man, what a leader. I'm like,

1125
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 3: why don't you encourage him and pick him up and

1126
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 3: talk to him about the nice way, in an encouraging way,

1127
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 3: about how things could have gone better. I understand he's

1128
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 3: competitive and he's upset, but I mean talk to him

1129
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 3: like a human, talk to him like man to man.

1130
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: That seems to be what he's doing in Okay. See,

1131
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 3: he seems to be more part of a team rather

1132
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 3: than my way or the highway. And he's been showing

1133
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 3: up in the clutch. You know, Chris Paul's always been

1134
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 3: a great clutch play in the regular season. He has

1135
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 3: the shot against the Spurs. But he was impressive to

1136
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 3: watch this year. He was fun to watch this year

1137
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 3: and just not overwhelming. That's the thing to me, is

1138
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 3: that he didn't overwhelm you with his antics on the

1139
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 3: court or his control of all the players out there.

1140
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 3: And he's been instrumental in getting the bubble set up

1141
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 3: for it seems to be going down in Orlando. So

1142
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 3: you gotta give him some respect for that.

1143
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:23,919
Speaker 2: It's a good one test.

1144
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll throw in a commenter here from the NBA

1145
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: Reddit mentions, Jamal Murray, I totally get what he's saying.

1146
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: He's become a little bit more stable here, a little

1147
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: bit more consistent in these playoffs. I think he just

1148
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: needs a little bit more of a rock beside him.

1149
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: If the Nuggets could somehow pride Drew Holiday from the

1150
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: Pelicans to be beside Jamal Murray, Jamal Murray didn't have

1151
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 1: to do all the ball handling like somebody really really good.

1152
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: And I think the Pelicans they could move on from

1153
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: Drew Holiday at some point because he doesn't really fit

1154
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: their timeline. Even though he's great. He needs a rock

1155
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: beside him. But yeah, I have loved him, and I've

1156
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: also loved Reggie accent in this postseason. I never thought

1157
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: I'd be a Reggie Jackson guy, But after Detroit, where

1158
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: he had to do a little too much, they moved

1159
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: him and the Clippers picked him up for nothing. I

1160
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: didn't think he was going to be playing a ton

1161
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: in this postseason, but the guy can shoot and score,

1162
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: and I just never saw that really as part of

1163
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: his Arsenal. I know he was a talented guy, but

1164
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: I didn't think he'd be effishent ever. Really. I mean,

1165
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: he's hitting fifty seven percent from three, which you know

1166
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: it'll go down, but he's hitting shots from everywhere, like

1167
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: the mean side, steps into the corner, like as a

1168
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: guy who doesn't have to handle the ball, as being

1169
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: a third, fourth option. He's good, and I'm surprised to

1170
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: see it. I just never never knew it could happen.

1171
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: But I guess some good teams will make a good

1172
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: player good again. He is in the NBA for a reason.

1173
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's sort of the same reasoning with my guy.

1174
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: It's Dennis Shruder. I've talked about it, like I liked

1175
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 2: him at times when he was young on the Hawks

1176
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: and had a bit of a role, and then I

1177
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 2: think he was to do too much and didn't go well.

1178
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 2: Watching a lot of Hawks games and I was like,

1179
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 2: I don't know this guy. I'm not sure he's a

1180
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 2: starting point guard in this league. His teammates don't seem

1181
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 2: to like him, and then of course he lands in

1182
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 2: OKC and man, it's working out. Maybe it's the organization,

1183
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 2: maybe it's just the role. Maybe it's playing, of course

1184
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: with better players than him, and that he knows the

1185
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 2: pecking order a little bit. But this guy is in

1186
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 2: many games here in the regular season with Okac and

1187
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 2: then even still into the playoffs, has has taken over

1188
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: at times and has won his team some games here.

1189
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 2: I mean, when you're putting up thirty, that's no joke,

1190
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: especially coming off the bench. So I know he finishes

1191
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 2: and plays a lot of minutes, but still that's impressive.

1192
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: So Dennis Shruder has proven me wrong here. At least.

1193
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 2: I was sort of ready to give up on him,

1194
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: probably a little too quickly, but didn't like what I

1195
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 2: saw there in that one particular season with the Hawks

1196
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: win again. I think he would just stretch a little

1197
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: too far and asked he to do a little too much.

1198
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 2: But he's killing it, Dennis Schruder, man.

1199
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 5: I think he's leading the bubble in pump fake though,

1200
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 5: like every time he gets the ball, pump fake, pump fake,

1201
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 5: and then he drives like he's actually pretty good at

1202
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 5: getting to the ring.

1203
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: He has an unbelievable first step. He's got a crazy

1204
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 2: long first step around guys. Yeah, yeah, okay, so let's

1205
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 2: let's keep it going here A couple more inspired by

1206
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: your conversation about the non flashy Kawhi Leonards of the

1207
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 2: world not being considered the goat. We were talking about

1208
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: that because Spencer Dinwhidie was bringing that up and we

1209
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 2: got into it the other day. Who would be on

1210
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: your all time less personable team? Who else might be

1211
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: on this all time boring but winning NBA team? Or

1212
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: is this a non flashy boring question too? I guess not.

1213
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: We got it in the show. That's from Sean in Dorchester, Ontario.

1214
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 2: I'll give you my team and you guys can tell

1215
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 2: me if I've got a wrong team here, or an

1216
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 2: incorrect team, or maybe someone else we could add. I

1217
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: just went with the starting five. This is my boring,

1218
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: you know, less personable, you know team that is still

1219
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: damn good in my opinion. The center. I'm gonna throw

1220
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis at the center position now, Anthony Davis. I

1221
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe some people are like, what this guy's

1222
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 2: got a you know, he's got rough commercials and stuff

1223
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 2: like that. I've been around Anthony Davis a few times,

1224
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 2: had the honor. You know, there's not a lot of personality.

1225
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 2: Let's just be honest. You're not getting a lot from

1226
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 2: a d Maybe he will grow into that, maybe as

1227
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 2: he becomes the best player on the Lakers, you know,

1228
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: in years to come or whatever. But right now, still

1229
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: that guy just goes out and dominates and doesn't have

1230
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 2: the greatest personality. He's just very, just very mundane, honestly.

1231
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 2: Ad power forward, Tim Duncan, that's a no brainer. Small forwards,

1232
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard. What a team here. Mitch Richmond is my

1233
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: shooting guard. I struggled with the shooting guard position because

1234
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 2: you know, your guards are usually a little bit more charismatic, flamboyant,

1235
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: but Mitch Richmond the rock.

1236
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 3: Sounds like a guard talking.

1237
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 5: Maybe yeah.

1238
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: And then I went with John Stockton as the point guard,

1239
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 2: you know, obviously just helping your team win, but off

1240
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 2: the court, I mean, he just blends into the background.

1241
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: You can walk around Barcelona. People didn't even know it

1242
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: was John Stockton on the Dream Team. So Stockton, Mitch Richmond,

1243
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard, Tim Duncan, and Anthony Davis is my all

1244
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: boring team if you want to call him that. What

1245
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:03,919
Speaker 2: do you think, Trey?

1246
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 3: Pretty good? These are the most of the people I

1247
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 3: would have had on my list as well. Brian twelve

1248
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 3: Ish suggests stonefaced Dereck Rose might be there, especially early.

1249
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 3: You know, he was the one guy who didn't dance

1250
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 3: during the All Star Game. Derek doesn't dance a classic moment.

1251
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 3: And the only other guard that I really thought about

1252
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 3: was Joe Johnson, who was so boring. His name was

1253
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,479
Speaker 3: Joe Johnson and made a bunch of All Star teams.

1254
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 3: He h had a bunch of game winners, but I

1255
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 3: don't know if he ever did an interview once in

1256
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 3: his entire career.

1257
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: Wow, Joe Johnson, that's a good Yeah, yeah, you can

1258
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: maybe put it. I can put him at shooting guard

1259
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,439
Speaker 2: over Mitch Richmond. I just can't think of a Mitch

1260
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 2: Richmond interview.

1261
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 3: I also true, that's true.

1262
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: I did hear I would sneak Jo Johnson in there

1263
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: as well. It's what I had. I think this is

1264
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: how unmemorable it was. But I do think we talked

1265
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: to Joe Johnson at an All Star game and I

1266
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: remember thinking, WHOA never heard Joe Johnson talk before? And

1267
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: then we were also at just a bar and he

1268
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: was hanging out being Joe cool, and yeah, just sort

1269
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: of blended into the background as well. That's Joe Johnson,

1270
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: but I'd count on him more as a more of

1271
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: a bucket getter than Mitch Richmond, although Mitch was very,

1272
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: very solid as well.

1273
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: Joe john that's an interesting question Johnson, Mitch Richmond.

1274
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 5: I mean Mitch kings days. You know, he was a

1275
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,439
Speaker 5: star on the team. I think he might six straight

1276
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 5: hold Star games. So they've got a similar, very similar

1277
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 5: sort of career, no doubt.

1278
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: But Joe Johnson, will he get in the Hall of Fame.

1279
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 5: He might, He might sneak in there, he might.

1280
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 2: It might be the classic.

1281
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: Exactly.

1282
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 3: Joe Johnson, he was a better bucket getter than Mitch Richmond.

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Speaker 3: Put him in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, John Stockton is a good one. I thought

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00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: of another Utah guy because I saw John Stockton probably

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00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: peak peak, peak peak, Darren Williams, which was probably one

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Speaker 1: year or John Stockton. Yeah, if you want to win, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, Lee. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The only other person noted thated is LaMarcus Oldridge. Never

1290
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Speaker 5: really sing too much out of him. A nice guy, sure,

1291
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 5: but you don't really know much about him. And then

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01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 5: he said he's a bucket getter, he's a gun on

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Speaker 5: to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: But it's the guy sure, Yeah, there's a role for

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01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 2: him on this team. I mean again, I don't know.

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01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 2: I can't take off Anthony Davis, Tim Duncan or Kwhi

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Speaker 2: Leonard for Marcus Ldrich. I don't think so.

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01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: But no, he another All Star story. He startled me

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01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: LaMarcus Aldridge when he was at his podium. We weren't

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01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: done media day and I was ready to get my

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Speaker 1: question in for him because there was still like fifteen

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Speaker 1: minutes on the clock, and he said to his PR guy,

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01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: he said, I got a piss And I thought that

1304
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: came out of Marcus Aldridge's mouth, and he just walked

1305
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: off the podium, went to the bathroom. I guess just

1306
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: freaking walked right by me. No question, but a you'urination.

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01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: I guess. Moving on here, next question, We've got a

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Speaker 1: couple more hi guys. Recently, in football racket soccer, Jude

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01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: Bellingham left Birmingham City to move to bo Russia Dortmund

1310
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Speaker 1: for around thirty pounds, to the surprise of many. Birmingham

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01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: decided to retire his number after he left. He's seventeen

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Speaker 1: years old and has only played one season of professional football. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My question is are there any NBA players who deserve

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Speaker 1: their number retired at a team that they are only

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01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: there for a short time. With Kaui at the Raptors

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Speaker 1: comes to mind, thanks for all the content during the

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01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: bubble and I hope the Raptors repeat that's from Jacob

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Speaker 1: in Bath England. Yees seventeen year old right in fact

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01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: check Bath.

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01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 2: But that's crazy Bath England, JD's favorite city in the world.

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Speaker 3: That's got the water flowing. I mean, this is I mean,

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Speaker 3: Kawhi is a great question, right, like, what are they

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01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 3: going to do to honor Kawhi as a Toronto Raptor

1324
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 3: when his career is finally over? Is it going to

1325
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 3: be a jersey? As he led them to their first title,

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01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 3: He's currently the best player for a single season in

1327
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 3: Raptors history. Are they going to build him a statue?

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01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 3: Who knows what it is. The other question for me

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01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,479
Speaker 3: was Dennis Rodman with the Bulls. I kind of always

1330
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 3: feel like his number is already retired with the Bulls,

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01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 3: but it's not. He was only there for three seasons.

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01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 3: He averaged a whopping five points a game, but you

1333
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 3: may remember he did average fifteen rebounds a game, led

1334
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 3: the league in rebounding all three years and the Bulls

1335
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 3: won three titles. He's also an iconic member of that franchise.

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01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 3: But thus far it's just Phil Jackson, Jordan and Pippen

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01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 3: obviously who have their numbers retired from the Dynasty years.

1338
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 3: And I feel like that's probably what it's going to

1339
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 3: stick with, because you know, those guys were there for

1340
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 3: all six of them. Rodman was there for only three,

1341
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 3: Horace Grant was there for three. So maybe maybe the

1342
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 3: thinking is if you put ninety one up there, you

1343
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 3: got to throw a fifty four as well. And I

1344
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 3: don't know, but Rodman, you know, you see him show

1345
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 3: up in the last dance and you think this guy

1346
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 3: is a Bulls legend. But the numbers not up there

1347
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 3: in the Raptors.

1348
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 2: Did he have his number retired by the Pistons?

1349
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 3: I think so?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, well yeah, but two people if wen't Greg

1351
01:02:58,120 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 5: Monroe WI one number ten and I think Stanley junk

1352
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 5: In one er ten as well for the Pistons.

1353
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but they did put his jersey in the rafters,

1354
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 2: I believe, so yeah they did.

1355
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe they have the rule.

1356
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 2: They still wear the number obviously, like they don't care

1357
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 2: that much.

1358
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that that's unusual though as well. I mean

1359
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 5: that doesn't often happen.

1360
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 2: All right, Well what else do you who else you

1361
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 2: got there?

1362
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I saw this comment. I liked it. Jason

1363
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Speaker 1: Fire thirty four mentioned Brandon Roy. That's a good one.

1364
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 2: Well, that's a good one.

1365
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: They got to retire his number. Although he did play

1366
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: five seasons with the Blazers cut short obviously, that was

1367
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: going to be a Hall of Fame career. And and

1368
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: I'll throw in Rashid Wallace with the Atlanta Hawks. That's

1369
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: just that's just memorable. Come on. He was traded from

1370
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: Portland to Atlanta on February ninth, two thousand and four,

1371
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: played one game for the Hawks, one game, and then

1372
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: they got he got traded to Detroit. Ten days he

1373
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: was with the Atlanta Hawks, and everybody went and got

1374
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,439
Speaker 1: his jersey because he played one game. A beautiful wall

1375
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: of jersey the Atlanta Hawks. And I wonder maybe the

1376
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: Wolves sticking with like the one season idea, maybe the

1377
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: Wolves retire Jimmy Butler because he had led him to

1378
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yeah, I let him to the playoffs first

1379
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: time in fourteen years. Haven't been back since. I mean,

1380
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: he's the best player of their era so far. I

1381
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: hopefully Cat takes that over pretty soon. But just another

1382
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: one to throw in there that will not happen.

1383
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 2: That's Rashid Wallace with the Pistons is sort of similar

1384
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 2: to the Kauhai situation to some extent, right, I mean,

1385
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 2: he comes over late and then helps him lead them

1386
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 2: to the title. It was instrumental in that. That won't happen.

1387
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 2: But it's quite like.

1388
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, he's stuck around for how many years?

1389
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true to five years in the year five. Yeah,

1390
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 5: so my guy has actually been with his team for

1391
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 5: six seasons. But he forced his way out of that team.

1392
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 5: But he also hit the biggest shot ever in the

1393
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 5: franchise history Kyrie Iving. What do the Cats do there

1394
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 5: if they retire his number?

1395
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 3: I mean, you're going to retire it for sure. He

1396
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 3: made a bunch of All Star Games, one Rookie of

1397
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 3: the Year, and the biggest shot in franchise history for

1398
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 3: their first title.

1399
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 5: But I just think because of the way that he

1400
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 5: just sort of said I'm out of here and forced

1401
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 5: his way out.

1402
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 2: I mean he's not the first to do that, no, I.

1403
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 5: No, but he but he also left when he still

1404
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 5: had so much of his career, you know, to play for.

1405
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 5: He didn't leave when he was like thirty three and

1406
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 5: it was like, all right, I need a new team.

1407
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:19,919
Speaker 5: He kind of was like, I'm done, I'm out of here.

1408
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 5: So I don't know.

1409
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 2: I mean, again, Shaquille O'Neill with the Magic.

1410
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 5: He retired in Orlando.

1411
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 2: All right, I'm sure it will be or do they

1412
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 2: do like a ring? Maybe I don't know.

1413
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 3: They have some sort of a ring.

1414
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 5: I do believe because it's retired in Miami Shacks. But

1415
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 5: I didn't think it was retired in Orlando.

1416
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 2: But okay, maybe you're right then, because that's sort of similar, right, yeah,

1417
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 2: a little bit to the Kyrie thing being young, being

1418
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 2: a talent, making the staric teams.

1419
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 5: And I mean he didn't force his way out in

1420
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 5: the same way Kyrie did, though he was a free

1421
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 5: agent when he left.

1422
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,439
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, okay, that's fair, that's fair.

1423
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 5: Wasn't wasn't treated no, no, but shack to think Kyrie

1424
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 5: had a year left on his contract. Me, Jack was like,

1425
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 5: I'm going to LA and I was like, okay, well

1426
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 5: I wish.

1427
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 2: We could have traded you. Yeah, that's something so Kerry

1428
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 2: actually did them a favorite. Yeah, that's a good question.

1429
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 2: Jacub in Bath, England, man, j D. Do you want

1430
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 2: to go there? Don't take a trip.

1431
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 4: Oh I've been to bath bathroom of course. Well, uh,

1432
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 4: they the public baths. They had actually just stopped having

1433
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 4: people go in there because people were getting sick. So

1434
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 4: when I got there, you couldn't go into the baths,

1435
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 4: which was very unfortunate. But uh, but yeah, that's a

1436
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 4: great town.

1437
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 3: I love it.

1438
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's uh, it's the the natural like water bots,

1439
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 5: isn't it.

1440
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the christ Yeah.

1441
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, where where is it located? Really?

1442
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 5: It's n starn Hinge.

1443
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh all right, learning here learning.

1444
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know what public baths meant there for

1445
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: a sec.

1446
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, everybody's learning. All right, we got we got

1447
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 2: one more question, but first we got to hear from

1448
01:06:58,240 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 2: our good friends at grammar Lely.

1449
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,200
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1450
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:07,439
Speaker 5: you drive around pretty nice flashy cars.

1451
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 3: Does vs on it?

1452
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 5: Does your Chevy have a backup camera?

1453
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 2: Yes? It does, that's right.

1454
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 5: You know when you're reversing, do you only use the

1455
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 5: backup camera or do you sort of have to check

1456
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 5: around as well, and I can't trust that camera exactly. Now,

1457
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 5: imagine you're writing an email right now. If you're writing

1458
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 5: an email, do you trust your own grammar all the time?

1459
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: No?

1460
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 3: No, way?

1461
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 5: Right? Yeah, perfect perfect. That's where grammarly comes in the

1462
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 5: play here, because if you're writing an email, you want

1463
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Speaker 5: to make sure it sounds right and you get all

1464
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 5: your grammar correct right, and grammarly does that basically for

1465
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1466
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Speaker 5: And I really do appreciate that because you know, less

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Speaker 5: is more when it comes to sending an email. You

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Speaker 5: you don't want us to send us a three paragraph

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01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,040
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1475
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,439
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1476
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Speaker 5: When I'm sending out emails to try to get guests

1477
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Speaker 5: on pop and packs, I'm tightening it up as much

1478
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Speaker 5: as I can send it.

1479
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Speaker 2: To me before I'm your grammarly exactly.

1480
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Speaker 5: And you know what, I ran that through the grammar

1481
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1482
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Speaker 5: did you use grammarly when you sent that reply to

1483
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Speaker 5: me pre grammarly?

1484
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Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow, that's my good back to my editing

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Speaker 2: ds with I have.

1486
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Speaker 5: To say you, actually you've got pretty good grammar, because there.

1487
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Speaker 3: Was one or two You're a Mardern Gaye with good grammar.

1488
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Speaker 5: One or two tweaks I made, but overall your grammar

1489
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 5: was pretty good. But still for everybody else out there,

1490
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Speaker 5: this really will help because you want to get your

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Speaker 5: it's not just for like sending an email either. Imagine

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Speaker 5: you were writing a book about yourself. You throw that

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Speaker 5: Grammarly in there, bang bang bang. All of a sudden,

1497
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Speaker 5: your book sounds like something you would want to read. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 5: I've taken a bit of a hiatus with the season

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01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 5: coming back, but I've got about twelve or so in

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Speaker 5: there something like that. But yeah, they're choppy, let's be honest.

1501
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:43,799
Speaker 5: But there's also there's also Grammarly Premium, which features advanced

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01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 5: suggestions on grammar, punctuate, punctuation, sentence, structure, and style. You

1503
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 5: could be styling and profiling while you're writing. Okay, it's

1504
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 5: a perfect tool. It's a perfect tool. I honestly have

1505
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 5: to say, like all jokes aside, I've really found it

1506
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 5: very very useful and handy. And now I can't prose

1507
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 5: an email or a message without gravelly getting involved, and now.

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Speaker 3: You can too.

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Speaker 4: Does not say come pros?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know I need a verbal version

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Speaker 5: of grammarly really because I was going to say composed

1512
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Speaker 5: or comprised, and I sort of mix the two.

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Speaker 1: But you know whatever, it's a it's pros sure.

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Speaker 5: And you know what is right there in grammarly that

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01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 5: would immediately highlight that and say what are you trying

1516
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 5: to say here?

1517
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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 5: Anyway, this is the best part. This is the best

1519
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Speaker 5: part because you can get twenty percent off Grammarly Premium

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Speaker 5: when you sign up at grammar Ly. It's g r

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Speaker 5: A M M A r l y dot com slash

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Speaker 5: no dunks so I honestly recommend you go and do that.

1523
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 5: If you want to make a good impression with someone,

1524
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Speaker 5: send an email, go to grammarly dot com slash no

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01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 5: dunks but twenty percent off. And you do it, and

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01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 5: you tell me if it doesn't help, because I guarantee

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01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 5: you it does.

1528
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 1: All right to throw in this comment from Joshua Matthews here,

1529
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: Lee less is more as you said, but continues to

1530
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:12,480
Speaker 1: do a four minute.

1531
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 2: Like he said he needs a verbal listen.

1532
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 5: I'm amost almost trying to really get the point across

1533
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 5: it that it does. It does work, and it's great,

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Speaker 5: and do it. Go ahead and do it and tell

1535
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 5: me about it.

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01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: Grammar Lee l E I G.

1537
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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's think of that too. I'm with you, Lee,

1538
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 2: I use it. I like the interface too. I like

1539
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 2: how it actually just works works like let alone the

1540
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 2: you know, spell check features and fixing your grammar and

1541
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 2: stuff like that. I like how it pops up like

1542
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 2: you know, it's all the settings and stuff like that.

1543
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 2: But it actually is pretty cool. So check it out.

1544
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 3: Was great and I can't smiley face emoji when you

1545
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:44,759
Speaker 3: write something.

1546
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1547
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 2: I like how it tells you, like, hey, nice style,

1548
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 2: nice grammar. Like you know, you can be a little

1549
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 2: more concise here.

1550
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 3: It's pretty cool. You gotta be styling and profile and

1551
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 3: when you're writing.

1552
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 2: All right, final one here, we'll wrap this up. Uh,

1553
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 2: it's up No Dunk's listener from back in the TV.

1554
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for keeping me entertained all these years,

1555
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 2: right my question? Last night, my wife and I decided

1556
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,600
Speaker 2: to finally watch The Revenant. After forty five minutes, my

1557
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 2: wife gave up and went to bed, and though truthfully

1558
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 2: I wasn't enjoying it, I felt like I couldn't turn

1559
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 2: it off, and it got me thinking. Leo's performance is

1560
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:21,959
Speaker 2: a lot like James Harden technically flawless, physically very impressive

1561
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 2: to be sure, but ultimately hard to watch. What other movies?

1562
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 2: Excuse me, what other movie performances can you equate to

1563
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 2: an NBA players game? Zoom call Maddio complain some that's

1564
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 2: from Zane in Auckland, New Zealand The Revenant. We've talked

1565
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 2: about this before here on the show. Some of us

1566
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 2: big fans, some of us not. But task Get has started.

1567
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 2: Other movie performances you can maybe equate to an NBA

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01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 2: players game.

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01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 1: Wow, this was hard. This was a long time talking

1570
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: with my wife, disagreeing with her over and over and

1571
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: over again about what basketball players were compared to a movie.

1572
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: I would say watching Ben Affleck in Argo is like

1573
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: watching Nikola Jokic. Both unconvincing in their roles. It feels

1574
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: like they're gonna both gonna get their teams killed. It's

1575
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: not gonna work out whatsoever. But they just plod along

1576
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: and they do it their way and in the end

1577
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: they're successful and they get the job done. But it

1578
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 1: sure didn't feel like it for forty seven minutes or

1579
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 1: for the first two hours of Argo. Did not feel right.

1580
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 1: But hey, made some money and Nikola Jokic, you get

1581
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 1: the job done, my friend.

1582
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 2: All right? So Argo and Jokich, Ben Affleck and Argo

1583
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 2: and Nicola Jokic.

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01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 3: Won some awards too.

1585
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 1: Argo.

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01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 3: Did I think Ben Affleck got a director?

1587
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 1: Not?

1588
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 3: Did he not? That was that was always my biggest

1589
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 3: problem with it as well, ben Affleck casting himself in

1590
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 3: the lead role. It was fine, but you look at

1591
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 3: him and you just see Ben Affleck full time. You're like, hey, man,

1592
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 3: you're Ben Affleck. We know, get somebody else.

1593
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 2: It's tough, tough. What do you got?

1594
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 3: Then Trey Luka Doncic is jonah Hill and super bad.

1595
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:04,520
Speaker 3: He burst onto the scene and he's killing it. He's hilarious,

1596
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 3: he's super funny. He's also a little bit pudgy. We

1597
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 3: had no idea that Jonahill would eventually become like an

1598
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 3: Oscar nominated actor, that he would become a director, that

1599
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 3: he would become known as like an artsy film kind

1600
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 3: of guy. Back then, you just thought he was gonna

1601
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 3: be a hilarious part of the Judd Apatow universe. But

1602
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:25,719
Speaker 3: he turned into a fine actor in the Hollywood Realman.

1603
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 3: You know, it's kind of hard to say exactly how

1604
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 3: high Lucas heights are going to reach. We love him now.

1605
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,839
Speaker 3: He's an exciting young player. He is carrying the Mavericks

1606
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 3: against the Clippers and he's been awesome to watch. He's

1607
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 3: gonna be in the MVP conversation for a decade. But

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01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 3: what's it going to look like when he's actually at

1609
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 3: the height of his powers? Still no idea he could

1610
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 3: be even better.

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01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 2: That's a great one. What do you got, Lee?

1612
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not super confident with this pick, but Carmelo

1613
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 5: Anthony in Portland with the resurgence that he's havn't played well.

1614
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 5: Kind of reminds me of Clint T. Eastwood in the

1615
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 5: like still kind of got it, even though Clint Eastwood

1616
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 5: feels like he's about one hundred and fifty years old

1617
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,879
Speaker 5: right now. But he still delivered a pretty good performance

1618
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 5: in what was a actually disappointing movie. I thought he

1619
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 5: played his role well. But I just sort of thought

1620
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 5: if it wasn't for him, this movie would be one

1621
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 5: of those It probably went a razi almost, but he

1622
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 5: kind of carried it. Now Mellow didn't carry the Blazers,

1623
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 5: of course, but but he's still It's still like, well,

1624
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 5: it's a Clint Eastwood movie, so you're gonna watch it

1625
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 5: and you're gonna get you all the way through it.

1626
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 5: And I think that's the sort of connection yeah making

1627
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 5: with male. I don't know if it really works or not,

1628
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 5: but you know, old man, haven't seen him for a while,

1629
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 5: comes back. Oh yeah, Okay, still okay, all right, g.

1630
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 2: Do you want to jump on here? I mean, you're

1631
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 2: the movie man of the crew here.

1632
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1633
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 4: Well, I was trying to I was trying to come

1634
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 4: up with something and I was doing a backwards I

1635
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 4: was starting with a movie. A guy Russell Crowe and

1636
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 4: le Mizeraba. He got completely you known basically for a

1637
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 4: bad pharmas but it's actually not that bad. I mean,

1638
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 4: he's just he's in over his head, so he's trying

1639
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 4: to think of a player that that's that everybody thinks

1640
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 4: is kind of terrible and over his head, but but

1641
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 4: he's actually not. He's actually he's fine in it. So

1642
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 4: Lee Lee would suggested Jeff Green, I think, but and maybe,

1643
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 4: but I don't know.

1644
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 1: So I wasn't gonna say anything.

1645
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 2: Well, that's why I thought you had an answer, because

1646
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 2: you were you were trying to comparison I had.

1647
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had an answer that I was not confident

1648
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 4: in saying at all. So but anyways, is there another

1649
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 4: player out there that's sort of sort of not as

1650
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 4: bad as people think he is, you know, or just

1651
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 4: just just a decent Was that Paul George?

1652
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 3: Paul George, he's kind of getting crushed right now, right,

1653
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 3: is good?

1654
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 2: Chris Middleton?

1655
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's in that sort of bracket and people would

1656
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 5: want him to do more, right, but he's a two

1657
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 5: time old star, so he's Hey.

1658
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 4: Russell Crowe is a cat Award winner, So let me sing, yeah,

1659
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 4: well you know, not really, but the role doesn't really call.

1660
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 4: I mean, he he does sing in it, but he's

1661
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 4: sort of this stiff police officer dude. So he's fine,

1662
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 4: he's fine.

1663
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 5: You have you never heard of thirty odd thirty odd

1664
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 5: foot of Grunt.

1665
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 2: No, that's Russell that's Russell Crow's band.

1666
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and he sings in it.

1667
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,719
Speaker 5: He's the lead singer. I think he's the he's the Yeah,

1668
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 5: he does it all. It's not very good, but he.

1669
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 3: Does it well.

1670
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: Anyway. That's what it's called.

1671
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 5: Thirty odd foot of grunt or something like that.

1672
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,600
Speaker 3: Of one of Australia's finest exports.

1673
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 2: Has anybody watched like a good movie in the last

1674
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 2: you know, five months? It was the last movie you watched?

1675
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 5: Well, I watched.

1676
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

1677
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 5: It won the Academy Award the Asian movie you've sat

1678
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 5: in South Korea? Uh, Parasite, Yes.

1679
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 4: You told us that eight months ago.

1680
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 5: Oh man, that was that was one of those ones.

1681
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 5: At the end you're just like, oh my god, where

1682
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 5: is it going? Like it was crazy?

1683
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 2: Crazy?

1684
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: Right?

1685
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I saw Gone Girl was on TV yesterday.

1686
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 2: I mean I seen it. Yeah, I forgot how crazy

1687
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,759
Speaker 2: the ending of Gone Girl is though, because I just

1688
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 2: just watched, like honestly, the final twenty minutes and I

1689
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 2: was like, oh yeah, wow, that is a wild ending

1690
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,480
Speaker 2: to this movie. I totally forgot.

1691
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:32,719
Speaker 3: See Ben Affleck being a sad sack husband. I'm buying

1692
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 3: being a CIA operative, not dog, You're Ben Affleck. The

1693
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 3: last movie for me was Ford Versus Ferrari. I thought

1694
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 3: I was going to be loving it. You know, an

1695
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 3: auto racing movie. Yeah, pretty Man, pretty Man. It was

1696
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 3: pretty Man.

1697
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. I did watch that one too tastic.

1698
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: I think The Way Back that's the last movie I watched.

1699
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 1: That's not the last movie I watched, but I just

1700
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 1: wanted to get another Ben Affleck movie. I was talking

1701
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 1: about this with Danielle. I think where you're a getting

1702
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: at is I haven't watched a lot of movies the

1703
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 1: last few months, which is strange because I've been home

1704
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: a lot. But we also went through that phase we were

1705
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: watching a basketball movie per week, so I think that

1706
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 1: was a part of it.

1707
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 2: Right, In a lot of cases, a bad basketball movie.

1708
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 2: I felt like a punishment watching some of those. Some

1709
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 2: of them are okay, JD, what about you anything.

1710
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 4: Palm Springs is good that I did watch that, great

1711
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 4: call it's it's sort of the groundhog Day thing, but

1712
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 4: is it Andy Samberg and Samberg Yeah, yeah.

1713
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.

1714
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 2: I was pleasantly surprised by that. I was very low

1715
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 2: expectations if yeah, been honest, and it was like, no,

1716
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 2: this is all right, You're right, very groundhog dayish but

1717
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 2: funny and enjoyable for sure. What do you think just

1718
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 2: before we go, JD, what do you think of a

1719
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 2: new Batman? Have you watched that?

1720
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 4: I haven't watched it. I haven't seen the trailer or anything.

1721
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 4: I'm very much anti DC right now, Oh very much?

1722
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 2: For what reason?

1723
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 4: Because well, I read I read one headline of one

1724
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 4: one article that basically said, oh, this Batman's going to

1725
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 4: delve into to bat to Bruce Wayne's trauma, and I'm like,

1726
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 4: why we'd how many times do we have to see

1727
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 4: this goddamn origin story? Everybody knows it to the opera.

1728
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 5: Who is the Batman this time.

1729
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:29,879
Speaker 3: Bringing back ben Affleck?

1730
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:33,600
Speaker 2: You know you don't even you don't know?

1731
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 5: Yeah that's true. I don't. But it's like, all right,

1732
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 5: we've done with Batman, Let's move on. They can't keep

1733
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,759
Speaker 5: bringing it back. I mean, once they had Batman Forever.

1734
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 5: That was pretty much jumping the shark in the Batman series.

1735
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 5: All Right, we're done, move on from Batman.

1736
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 4: You called it at Batman Forever.

1737
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, God, that was awful. That was awful.

1738
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 4: Okay, not disagree with you, but Christian Bale go check

1739
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 4: out the Nolan trilogy so well.

1740
01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 5: I saw one of them. I can't. I think it

1741
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 5: was the first one. I guess the Dark Knight was

1742
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 5: that the first one?

1743
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 1: Who cares?

1744
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 5: Anyway, But I've just done because it's like that's the thing.

1745
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 5: It's like we know the story by now. It's okay.

1746
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 5: You can't, you know, you can't just keep on bringing

1747
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 5: it back every podcast.

1748
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 1: Apparently you can.

1749
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 2: That's what we do.

1750
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 5: All right, We'll bring Michael Keaton back as Alfred then

1751
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:21,719
Speaker 5: at least like Alfred.

1752
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, your original Batman into Alfred.

1753
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 3: Michael Keaton definitely the best Batman and Lee. I gotta say,

1754
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 3: Batman Forever is maybe my favorite Batman. So extreme, that's

1755
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 3: so extreme. Let me just kill me man.

1756
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,520
Speaker 5: Let me just confirm that's the one with Arnold Schwartznigger's

1757
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 5: ice Man.

1758
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 3: No, that's Batman and Robin. That's okay, blooney, we got

1759
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 3: Val Kilmer as Batman and Batman forever.

1760
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 5: I can't right, Okay, maybe maybe I've got my uh.

1761
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 3: Just Bill Schwartzenegger. What is brutality. It's worse than listening

1762
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 3: to the pun gun for ten minutes face to meet

1763
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:00,600
Speaker 3: you exactly.

1764
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 2: Okay, let's got that Batman talking though.

1765
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 3: Guys.

1766
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 2: Here's the plan. We are going to be back on

1767
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 2: Saturday morning to discuss the latest NBA news and very

1768
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 2: likely preview the Raptors Celtics series, which we still got

1769
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 2: to do if that is tipping off later this weekend,

1770
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 2: and we'll get to maybe even to the Nate McMillan fire,

1771
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 2: and we got lots to talk about it. So we'll

1772
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 2: be back throughout the weekend Saturday and Sunday. Obviously still

1773
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 2: waiting for the official word unless it happened during the

1774
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 2: recording of this podcast of when the NBA is going

1775
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 2: to resume play, but we'll be here over the weekend,

1776
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 2: so join us live on YouTube at ten am Eastern.

1777
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,160
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1778
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,400
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1779
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,439
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1780
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:43,799
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1781
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 3: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up.

1782
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 2: Love you guys, awesome.

1783
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. And it wasn't just you. That

1784
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 1: last segment went on Batman Forever.

1785
01:22:56,080 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 2: Embrace the day, people, every day, and and you happy

1786
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 2: every minute.

1787
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 1: It's been so long that you're the one I've wait for.

1788
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 1: It's happened already.

1789
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 2: It's gonna be goody