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Speaker 1: I think teams are waiting for that. And like Schultz

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Speaker 1: is a great snack, she needed a comeback take and

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Speaker 1: she got it. Um all right. And before we hit

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Speaker 1: odds and ends and hold on to your butts for that,

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Speaker 1: let's listen to one of the forgotten important plays in

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Speaker 1: recent Super Bowl history. Out of the shotgun, Ryan gets hit,

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Speaker 1: Paul is out. This is a fumble. Do anyone hasn't

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Speaker 1: high Tower knocked it out? And Prance recovers for the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: That was Donta High Tower of the New England Patriots

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Speaker 1: in Super Bowl fifty three, the twenty eight three game.

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Speaker 1: It was twenty eight twelve at that moment with eight

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Speaker 1: minutes to play in the fourth quarter of the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Then it's to play this third and one? They should

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Speaker 1: call at the twenty eight to twelve and eight minutes

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Speaker 1: to go on a third and one game. I know

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Speaker 1: that's not as good as it's even more remarkable than

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Speaker 1: just how about this, Greggy. I thought we were teeing

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Speaker 1: up a different highlight because he donta High Tower linebacker

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Speaker 1: retired yesterday officially. He made the tackle on Marshawn Lynch

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Speaker 1: at the one yard line before the Russell Wilson interception

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Speaker 1: by Malcolm Butler, And we were sitting in that stadium

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Speaker 1: high up, and when Marshawn got that ball, it looked

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Speaker 1: like he was going in and that would have put

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Speaker 1: New England behind in that game with less than a

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Speaker 1: minutes player about a minute to play. That to me

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Speaker 1: was like v play but another great Patriot. The man

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Speaker 1: was called Mister February by no Leston Bill Belichick, and

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Speaker 1: that play, those two plays actually kind of summarized Dante

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Speaker 1: High Tower well because he was a big guy who

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Speaker 1: could blitz. He was the only linebacker on the field

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Speaker 1: in that Rams game where they held him to three points,

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Speaker 1: six guys up front, one linebacker, because he could do

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Speaker 1: it all blitz, run, stop, And that play where he

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Speaker 1: stopped Lynch, like he has the center on him and

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Speaker 1: he disengages from that block and tackles one of the

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Speaker 1: toughest guys to tackle in the league, Marshawn Lynch, just

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Speaker 1: a yard before, and like they literally don't win those

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Speaker 1: two Super Bowls without Dante Hyde. I think like the

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Speaker 1: performance against the Rams is undersold because of those two

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Speaker 1: other games he dominated Jared Goff. The Rams didn't get

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Speaker 1: past New England's twenty six yard line, and it had

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Speaker 1: a lot to do with how tigeh Tower, how he

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Speaker 1: was dispatched. He missed the Eagles Super Bowl with a

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Speaker 1: torn pectoral. You have to wonder looking at that game

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Speaker 1: with the fact that you're right. Belichick called to mister February,

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Speaker 1: what happens in that insane back and forth contest if

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Speaker 1: you have high Tower in there, because he's simply he

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Speaker 1: delivered every Super Bowl there was the same result happened. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't not at all. You get High Tower in

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Speaker 1: folks face. You know, Greggy, the Patriots may not be

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Speaker 1: special anymore, but you're all the kind of various homecoming

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Speaker 1: anniversary halftime that's part of having this great run like

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Speaker 1: they had for twenty years. Um, those are gonna be

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Speaker 1: They're always gonna be lit. Bro, You're gonna have so

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Speaker 1: many big time guys that you get to roll out

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Speaker 1: as a Yankee fan with old timer's day you have.

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Speaker 1: You have the same thing, especially like from the fifties

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Speaker 1: and sixties, those runs. So it would be like Brady

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Speaker 1: is DiMaggio man in general, like all the other guys

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Speaker 1: like Devin mccordy retired also, and he was another vital

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Speaker 1: cog in the Patriots machine. He will be coming out

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Speaker 1: of that tunnel. You guys will always have that and

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Speaker 1: I believe it's later is back. He's you know, their

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Speaker 1: core special teamer. But mccordy and high Tower retiring this

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Speaker 1: offseason does feel like kind of okay, this is really

489
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Speaker 1: the end of the last embers of the players that

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Speaker 1: were there for the titles. Do they still have the

491
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Speaker 1: like the old Yankees? Am I misremembering this as a kid?

492
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Speaker 1: Like the old Yankees would come out and play like

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Speaker 1: a squad verse squad game. Yes, slightly depressed, but they

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Speaker 1: still is that they shelved that at this point or

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Speaker 1: do they still bring like forty nine fifty five year

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Speaker 1: old sixty two year old players out actual gray beards.

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Speaker 1: They do. Yeah, they bring them out and they play

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Speaker 1: like three innings. But you can do that in baseball,

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Speaker 1: that's a nice thing. You can't nice. Try doing that

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Speaker 1: in football pads Like, Yeah, the less said about that,

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Speaker 1: the better that would be. All right. From one depressing,

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Speaker 1: scary situation and to odds and ends. Connie. Oh god, okay,

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Speaker 1: different kids. I don't know if I have another key,

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Speaker 1: you have another key. It's any of the time. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's go high three. Okay, I don't think I can

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Speaker 1: go ends. Everybody tell your friends. Ends. Oh it was

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Speaker 1: very good. But where was the when it's Colleen? Though?

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Speaker 1: It really hasn't here. It's not ominous. It was really funny.

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Speaker 1: It's happy. It's happy, as Greg said, I thought, because

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Speaker 1: Colleen's here, it's like it's a little more pleasant. What

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Speaker 1: is What are these conversations that I'm missing? There were

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Speaker 1: now conversations. There was a synth there. You just didn't

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Speaker 1: quite catch it. No, Dan's gonna have to talk to

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Speaker 1: you after the show. Breakdown in communication. Uh, justin Graver,

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Speaker 1: please report to the principal office. Doctor Hanzas will see you.

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Speaker 1: I did send you a bunch of options and you

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Speaker 1: never got back. It's good that that will be struck

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Speaker 1: from the record though. All right, odds and ends here

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Speaker 1: we go. Okay, do we do eight o'clock de light

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Speaker 1: with odds and ends? Yeah? Yes, all right, hit it? Please.

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Speaker 1: The Bills make a move, adding Damien Harris to their

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Speaker 1: backfield former Patriot. Great move. A lot of juice. It

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Speaker 1: was terrific two years ago. More on the Bills in

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Speaker 1: a moment. Yeah, don't let it stop you from getting

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry Dante Fowler returns to the Cowboys, Connie, Oh,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh. Yeah, he did a great job last year.

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Speaker 1: I think that he is going to be able to

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Speaker 1: do a good one. Mark Michael Parsons to Marcus Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: come on, let's go. Ronald Jones also there. I guess

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Speaker 1: he replaces Zeke. Ben Roethlisberger claims the forty nineties contacted

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Speaker 1: him last year. Mark, I mean they went after Jimmy Gee.

532
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: They would asked about Tom Brady, they asked about Aaron

533
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Speaker 1: Rodgers in years past, they pulled a trade for trade

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Speaker 1: for Trey Lance. I think they probably don't know why

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Speaker 1: the claimed it. We just assume that Ben Roths is

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Speaker 1: lying on the radio about this. I think it a

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Speaker 1: weird thing. You know why why because Greg wrote that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know from early was Ben Roths proclaims the FOURT

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Speaker 1: like why would you just come on? Aaron believes not

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Speaker 1: that high octane of a thing to say, Like, so

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Speaker 1: we're assuming you're coming from the place you think he's lyned.

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Speaker 1: I think as journalists you want to have Devil two.

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Speaker 1: Maybe if it's if it's a choice between Cam and Ben.

544
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: The Pats bring back Jalen Mills eighty Goldman unretired to

545
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Speaker 1: join the Falcons, Andrew van Ginkl returns to the Dolphins.

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00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenny McKenzie joins Colts David Blau back with Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: The blowhards us a chance to start I think week one.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Colt mcquib will be there. M

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Speaker 1: I don't think he has a chance to start a

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Speaker 1: week one. I mean, I hope not. Geez, you're right,

551
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Speaker 1: Tyler Murray, who's not going to play for a month

552
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: plus and you've just signed another quarterback a chance? Okay,

553
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: that's fair. I guess I'm just trying to think week one.

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Speaker 1: That is a tough sitch. Yeah, unless you're trying to

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00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: go unless you're doing the old desert tank job. What

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Speaker 1: is it? And what is the old? Uh? You learned

557
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Speaker 1: it in journalism class, Greg going muck raker. They would

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Speaker 1: put out like actual newspapers of like you know, yellow journalists,

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Speaker 1: yellow journalists. All right, are you ready, let's take a break,

560
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Speaker 1: get some power Rankings. All right, well come back, you're ready, ready,

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Speaker 1: let's go. I've never been more. Let's let's let's rush

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Speaker 1: and doll this bit. All right? Go? What hey? Welcome

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Speaker 1: to NFL Power rank Is presented by Energizer. Is that

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Speaker 1: what we're doing? Yeah? Well, I don't know if we

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Speaker 1: needed the presenting sponsor, but sure batteries with Colleen Wolf

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Speaker 1: and two very special guests today, Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler.

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Speaker 1: What's up. It's a pleasure to be here on your

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Speaker 1: guys weekly periodic pod about the Power Rankings recreg Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what took so long to ask us? I think it's

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Speaker 1: important to set boundaries. You know, I didn't think you

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Speaker 1: guys would want to be coming in for a Tuesday

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Speaker 1: Power Ranking stamping and then do what Connie and I did,

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Speaker 1: which is a turnaround and drill a Tuesday around the

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Speaker 1: NFL taping by that take at all, But we'll proceed

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Speaker 1: forward with the today's show. Also, I've heard Mike Flame

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Speaker 1: mister F might be available for an offseason sponsorship. He

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Speaker 1: let me know personally. He's an expert in escra hester.

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Speaker 1: We've always wondered about mister F and what his true

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Speaker 1: background is, where he gained immens wealth and traveling the

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Speaker 1: world still in the Hague. He is literally a math

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Speaker 1: genius from Hague, the Netherlands, so knowing Escrow wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: that far out of bounds. He's now in Maine. It's true.

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Speaker 1: It's all math to him, so he's in exactly, it

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Speaker 1: put him on retainer, so he's an Escrow math genius.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know he'sn't genius enough to be teaching,

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Speaker 1: you know, hungry high school students about economics and math

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Speaker 1: and mathematical. He's laughing at this because he's like, Escrow's

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Speaker 1: not complicated, and of our listeners are like, who's mister

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Speaker 1: f Go back to season by all right? Power Rankings. Yes,

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Speaker 1: there's a new power rankings up written by me on

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Speaker 1: NFL dot com. You can find at NFL dot com

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Speaker 1: slash power Rankings or NFL dot com slash hands us.

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Speaker 1: And yes it's a an assignment. Did you ever get

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Speaker 1: assigned by the way Mark the QB index post free

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Speaker 1: agency post free agency? Yeah, I have not, and I

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Speaker 1: would rather you not bring that up, as you have

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Speaker 1: to say though, because I was thinking about why why not?

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Speaker 1: Like I don't think it makes as much sense for

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Speaker 1: QB index scenes changed, like what why why are we

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Speaker 1: putting like Ryan Tannehill in terms of its own personal

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Speaker 1: performance since it did it four weeks. If I could

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Speaker 1: let me just say, like if Ali he's not going

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Speaker 1: to these teams, these players, the quarterbacks that have switched teams,

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Speaker 1: they change schemes, UH playmakers around them, I think maybe

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Speaker 1: a pretty thorough deep dive about their new UM arrangements,

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Speaker 1: how it could change where they fit UM in the

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Speaker 1: league as as a whole. I think it's worth it

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Speaker 1: well right because QB Index isn't just a ranking, and

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Speaker 1: it's like a culture, it's a way of life. And

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Speaker 1: in the off season sometimes when you don't do the rankings,

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Speaker 1: you can still have interesting looks at the QB market.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of time about I don't entirely disagree

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Speaker 1: with the concept. I don't know why the two of

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Speaker 1: you are trying to take us, you know, a week

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Speaker 1: day of mine and completely wash it aside. Like where

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Speaker 1: did Patrick Mahomes finish number one? Okay, no left tackle?

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Speaker 1: Right now? You lose Juju Smith Schuster. I mean I

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Speaker 1: would assume he's probably still number one, but let's discuss it.

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Speaker 1: Let's break it down nine. All right, let's get into it,

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Speaker 1: because I did have to do this assignment and which

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Speaker 1: makes entirely more sense. Yes, it does, it really does.

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Speaker 1: Such it feel more urgency on that front then, So

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Speaker 1: let's kind of go through it already. It's not me

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Speaker 1: from today. If you're trapped in your car, if I

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Speaker 1: hope you're not trapped in your car right now, I

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Speaker 1: call the authority, yeah, to help you get you if

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Speaker 1: you could reach to the on star button if you're

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Speaker 1: in danger, if you still have that is that still exists.

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Speaker 1: Here's the top ten and kind of connected again to

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Speaker 1: Mark's QB index. I have the Chiefs at one, Eagles

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Speaker 1: they stay there. I got the Bengals still at three,

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Speaker 1: the Bills at four, the Niners at five. They swapped spots.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why. The Cowboys six, Jaguars, seven Chargers, eight,

634
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: board Jets, nine Dolphins. Ten. So there's the top ten,

635
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna you guys can jump in whenever. I

636
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: kind of went through it, and I just wanted to

637
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: share some thoughts, and I'll start with the Bills because

638
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: we hit it quickly there in eight o'clock to light,

639
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: and I think I knew your answer, Mark, But I

640
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: like Damien Harris. I've always liked Damien Harris, and so

641
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: I think he's an upgrade over Devin Singletary. But Connie,

642
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: do you think that they still need to do more

643
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: to help that quarterback or would you be okay with

644
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: them rolling forward with this and some draft adjustments. I

645
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: kind of kept them where they were basically because I

646
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: feel okay about it. But at the same time, it

647
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: did seem to me like this is gonna be a

648
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: missed opportunities to such a pivotal year for Buffalo. Yeah,

649
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: I don't love what they've done so far in free

650
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: agency because they haven't done a lot here. I think

651
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 1: that they do need to help out Josh Allen. Obviously,

652
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: that offensive line was an issue at the end of

653
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: the year too, so that's something that you know needs

654
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: to needs to be figured out. But you know, I

655
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: like the fact that they kept Jordan Poyer. Losing Edmonds though,

656
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: is such a big one for them, and I think

657
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 1: that's going to come back to bite them, like I'd struggle.

658
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: And I know, first of all, I know when you're

659
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: doing the list, it's like this stuff gets into a

660
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: different place and it's not because you're using some deepest

661
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: mathematical formult But they were, they were five in they're

662
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: now four and like the Niners lost some guys, but

663
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: they didn't tangibly change to me, and so my thing

664
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: is more not about where they're ranked. But it's like

665
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: you mentioned DeAndre Hopkins, I think would be that's a

666
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: good fit for Buffalo. It's like, go get him now,

667
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: he's got a couple of seasons left. You've got one

668
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the league. You can pair

669
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 1: him with the rest of that offense. Austin Ekeler you mentioned,

670
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: that's a great idea, like someone or if you want

671
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: to go Derek Henry. It's like if you're the Bills

672
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: and you've been this quiet and you're not going all

673
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: in and you're saying the roster we had last year

674
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: is good enough, when again, like this is a team

675
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: that's not suffered the devastating injuries that other teams have.

676
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: They've relatively had on defense, maybe at on offense, that

677
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: offense has been relatively healthy. And is this the best

678
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: team in the AFC like we presumed a year ago.

679
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: I don't think so at all. But I think they

680
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: deserve to stay in the top five because they've earned it.

681
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: They have continuity on defense. I think they're gonna miss

682
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier. That was a sneaky, big loss to suddenly

683
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: that McDermott maybe is calling plays again. They have more

684
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: needs than they've had in previous years. I expect them

685
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: to get creative and do more. It doesn't surprise me

686
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: that they're kind of second wave of free agency team

687
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: because they didn't have a ton of cap space. But

688
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: to answer your question, Dan, no, they haven't done enough.

689
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: They got issues at receiver, they got issues on their

690
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: offensive line. Now they got to replace Edmonds. Keeping Poyer

691
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: was nice, But I think they're going into this part

692
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: of the season with a little more obvious knee than

693
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: usual that they're gonna have to address creatively or in

694
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: the draft. They signed Connor recovering on the offensive line,

695
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 1: but like, I think they still need more help beyond that. Yeah,

696
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: I just are they going in the right direction. Like

697
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: I said, they gotta get they gotta get over the

698
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: hump this year and you know we'll see um. Yeah

699
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: with San Francisco Mark, that's just more like my kind

700
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: of takeaway. I was thinking about, like, do we feel

701
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: better or worse or about the same with our quarterback

702
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: situation this year. I love that, you know, I was.

703
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: I didn't mention them as a winner with Barnwell the

704
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: other day, but like you know, fortifying that defensive line again,

705
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: which has been such a big part of what they

706
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: do m was very important. So they did that in

707
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: free agency. But we shall see. I want to go

708
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: to some tough ones. Tough ones the Chargers at eight,

709
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: and I was thinking, like, should the Chargers be dropped

710
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: out of the top ten? I don't know, Like I

711
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: think there's some of that twenty seven zilch stink from

712
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 1: the playoffs that that I'm dealing with personally. And Austin

713
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: Eckler came out and said he's still wants to be

714
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: a Charger if they could get a deal done. So

715
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: maybe that's not over at this point. But they's just

716
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe it's just a bad vibe situation.

717
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: When la do you guys see them as a top

718
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: time I think it's a bad vibe thing right now,

719
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: Like it's they need they need more speed at the

720
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: wide receiver position, for sure. I know that they need

721
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: some help on the edge too, but it just feels like,

722
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: no matter what happens with the Chargers, they still can't

723
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: get it done. And then when you have Austin Eckler

724
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: who's trying to get paid and he's such a good

725
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: player and that whole situation, I just like don't feel

726
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: great about the Chargers. Yeah, I feel like it's two

727
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: years in a row where you're left like the Brandon

728
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: Still experience, had these early high moments where he was

729
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: lord of seen as a genius, that a great communicator,

730
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: and then like that Raiders lost two years ago was

731
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: ugly from a coaching angle, and last year to lose

732
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: the way they did is just like his whole selling

733
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: point when he came in his early Q and A's

734
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: was like, I don't even understand what it means to Charger.

735
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: This is not that culture, and it's like, but you

736
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: just it's not just you, but the whole team collectively

737
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: did the biggest version of that ever and they haven't

738
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: had a lot of ability to do much in this offseason,

739
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: so they've stayed put outside of the Austin Ekeler news.

740
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: For me, when I see the Jaguars at seven and

741
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: Chargers to date, it just tells me how quickly the

742
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: league drops off from teams that you could trust to

743
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: make an AFC or NFC title game to absolute middle

744
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: of the pack everyone else. Right, I think, I think

745
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: you have the right top five, and the Cowboys make

746
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: sense as six. I think they've had a solid offseason

747
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: so far and they've just got so much talent. And

748
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: then after that, like you could pick almost any team,

749
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: the Jaguars were the ones that stuck out to me

750
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: the most. Is like, wow, seventh best team in the league.

751
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: A lot went right for them a year ago. They

752
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,479
Speaker 1: do have Trevor Lawrence, but I guess I'm not ready

753
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: to put Trevor Lawrence with Justin Herbert and Joe Burrow

754
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: and those quarterbacks just yeah, because I just want to

755
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: see it like a little bit more, And I guess

756
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm not just assuming that they are a house on

757
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: fire that starts right where they were a year ago.

758
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: It's nice they're in that division. They couldn't do as

759
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 1: much spending obviously this year because what they did last offseason,

760
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: but the Ridley trade. When you add Ridley to the

761
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: rest of the guys that are there, kurg z A Jones,

762
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram, Travis Etienne and Lawrence in year three? Who

763
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: now has mojo right? He's he would be a buzzy MVP.

764
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't have a logical candidate for who then even

765
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: would be ahead of them at seven. You can make

766
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: a million cases like the Ravens to me are low

767
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: at thirteen, but that's because they're the Ravens in Lowa.

768
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: Marthing confuses everything I might I might put those Detroit

769
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: lines up at seven, Why why drop them two spots? Like?

770
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: I love what they did adding to the secondary. Yeah,

771
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 1: I bumped and this Connie. You'll remember with the AFC

772
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: West last year, they were the darlings. They opened Week

773
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: one three teams in AFC West in the top ten,

774
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: and two of them UM flatlined more or less. And

775
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: so it's this year it's the Jets and Dolphins, who

776
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: I just think UM have a lot of upside this

777
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: year and there's a lot of you know, positive buzz

778
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: right now, and that's what I'm writing in and I

779
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: just it makes sense to me that they have top

780
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: ten team upside, and I guess it comes at the

781
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: expense of the Lions, But I mean I have them

782
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: from nine to eleven. I still I love the lines.

783
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: I love what they've done in the secondary with Sutton

784
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: Mosley and Cegju. That is a big upgrade, and I

785
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: guess they still need to get a little better in

786
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: the in the front seven. Is the defense? Can you

787
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: trust the defense at this point beyond Aidan Hutchinson. They

788
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: they thought they had great depth last year and it

789
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: didn't quite work out that way. They played better as

790
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: the season went along. But I like that the aggressively

791
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: addressed one issue. The offense is in good shape. But

792
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: you're kind of just picking your favorite teams here. I

793
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: probably would have put the Jets, the Dolphins, and I

794
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: would put the Lions all those guys ahead of the

795
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: Jags and Chargers for now. I would have maybe bumped

796
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: up the Saints a little higher. I kind of Barrett

797
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: twenty two, and then you have the Browns at twenty one,

798
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: the Rams at twenty the Rams there, Um, okay, so

799
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: let's let's start with the Saints then, because that was

800
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: one of the teams. Kind of you're on the right track, Hey,

801
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: that was one of the teams. When I was going

802
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: through it again, I was like, you know what, I

803
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: think I like the Saints more than I'm giving them

804
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: credit in these rankings because UM. Their defense obviously was

805
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: not the issue last year. UM. In fact, the Saints

806
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: defense were eighth and total dvo A last year they

807
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: were third and waited dvoa UM. And then you look

808
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: at the offense and like, the offense has got a

809
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: chance here, So you got Derek Carr. Michael Thomas is

810
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: such a huge piece here and a part of the

811
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: mystery around this offense. But Alava and Thomas on the

812
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: surface is one of the better pairings of wide receivers

813
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: in the league. Jawan Johnson could be a Pro Bowl

814
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: type player. Jamal Williams now is there and he's better

815
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: than mark Ingram at the stage, and he also gives

816
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: them cover if Albun kamaram. This is a bunch of

817
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: time with this off off the field issue. So I

818
00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: think they're going to score points and I think the

819
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: defense should be Maybe does the defense take a step back?

820
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: Is that the concern because this does seem like a

821
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: team that can win ten games. I agree, but they're

822
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 1: asking Dennis Allen to cook some magic in that defensive line.

823
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: It's basically Cam Jordan in a lot of like who

824
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: They did lose some players including Marcus Davenport, David on

825
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: Yamada and brought in guys Kaylin Saunders and Nathan Shephard.

826
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: We haven't talked about these movies, but these were guys

827
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: that were like three hundred, four hundred, okay snaps for

828
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: other teams that the Saints are going to ask to

829
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: do a little bit more. Twenty two feels low though.

830
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: They feel very much like a middle of the road,

831
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: closer to sixteen type of team. I mean, I'm struggling

832
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: with a couple things like come get my ass. I

833
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: spent we spent all this time listening to each other talk.

834
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: And you've been off Atlanta Falcons for two years and

835
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: I've always thought that, like, if anything, Arthur Smith, Arthur

836
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: Smith has gotten into a better record than they should

837
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: have had. They were seven and ten a year ago. Imperfect,

838
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: but he found a way to coach around some of

839
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: their weaknesses. Is they're not the twenty seventh team in

840
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: the NFL to me right now, after what they they've

841
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: they've at least gone for it. I mean, if if

842
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna take the Jets without even having Aaron Rodgers

843
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: yet and propel them up seven spots, I see what

844
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: you're doing. They're like, it's well set, but like, I

845
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: don't understand the Jets as the seventh best or the

846
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: ninth best team in football and the Falcons at twenty seven.

847
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: Jets have to do with the Falcons though, because I

848
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: don't see a that disparity there, like that difference. I

849
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: just think that there's I think, Okay, I Dan, I

850
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: know you're not gonna want I don't see the Jets

851
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: as the ninth best team yet I want to see

852
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: the back because I thought we we breeze past that

853
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: a little. But it's like that wasn't all Tell me audacious,

854
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: and I'm totally down to hear it. Tell me um.

855
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: And maybe it's as simple as you don't think Gan

856
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: Rodgers can play anymore? But what makes the Jets not

857
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: a team that is least? In that conversation, I think

858
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: number one, I would flip the Dolphins and Jets to start.

859
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: We have the Jets at ten, I can look at that.

860
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: I'd flip them with the Lions though, and put them

861
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: down at eleven. And we're talking about a giant team

862
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: that just made the playoffs that I think is really

863
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: well coached. I think the Jets are well coached too.

864
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: I think you are hoping and presuming that you're probably

865
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: gonna get one year where Aaron Rodgers, that you get

866
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: a plugged in, much better version, right. But with the Ravens,

867
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: they're getting dropped because they don't have Lamar Jackson right now,

868
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: and we don't know what's going to happen there, right

869
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: amongst other things. I mean, the Ravens to me, like,

870
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: I think we're assuming we know what's going to happen

871
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers, right, but I don't know. I just

872
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: feel to me, I guess as a as a stung

873
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: Browns fan, this offseason reminds me of the offseason where

874
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 1: they traded for Odell Beckham and they were being talked

875
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: about as this thing that's just going to develop and happen,

876
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: and there are a lot of X factors that can

877
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: get in the way of that. And it has not

878
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: appeared to me to be a put in. Aaron Rodgers

879
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: about to turn forty in a new city, in a

880
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: new like it won't be a new offense, but with

881
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: all new teammates, we don't know how long this is

882
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: going to go on. If he's going to actually miss

883
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 1: the entire offseason, plug him in, and they're essentially the

884
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: fourth best team in the AFC for you, as my friend,

885
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: I hope that I don't see that right now. I

886
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: need to see more path of that of that. Dude.

887
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: Everything you're saying makes sense, Mark, Everything you're saying makes sense.

888
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: There there is two ways this can go. I don't

889
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: think there's a middle. I think they can be very

890
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: competitive and be a major player in the AFC, or

891
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: things can go very poorly with Aaron Rodgers. I think

892
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: the reason I have them here is there is a

893
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: lot of upside here and at this portion of the rankings,

894
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 1: and also when you look at the other AFC contenders,

895
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: I think they're they have the potential to be better

896
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: than any of those teams. And I, you know, pointedly

897
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: have them beneath the Jaguars and Chargers, but they're right there.

898
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: I just think when you look at Rogers, and this

899
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: is what a lot of this is about. Their defense

900
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: is ready to go. We know that that that's going

901
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,959
Speaker 1: to be that's going to be a strength of this team.

902
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: And I think they have in Garrett Wilson, Alan Lazard

903
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: and Elijah More a really good trio. I think Elijah

904
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: More with a actual core back, there's still a big

905
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: time player there potentially, Okay. I think Breece Hall comes

906
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: back from that injury. If he comes back, okay, And

907
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: again these are ifs. He could be a star running back.

908
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: The offensive line is going to be better, They're gonna

909
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: use their draft to build it better, They're gonna get healthier.

910
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: And I think you put those things together, there's just

911
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: a lot pointing to this being a good team. And

912
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: I guess my pushback to you on that mark would be,

913
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: where would you have the Jets in this exercise? Who

914
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: else in the AFC, for instance, should be Well? I said,

915
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: I would put them first of all, I besides the Dolphins,

916
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: all right, So I'd flip them with the Dolphins. I'd

917
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: flip them with the Lions, so they'd be down at eleven.

918
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: I might have them above the Giants. But I still

919
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: I look at the Seahawks at fourteen and say, I

920
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: think the Seahawks, after what they achieved a year ago,

921
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: that feels low to me. I think the Seahawks have

922
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: showed me more than the Jets right now. The Jets

923
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: do have all these things, but like last year, they

924
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: had a lot of those things too. They had terrible

925
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: quarterback play, but they complete, that's what it's about. But

926
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: they completely crumble down the stretch. That's part of your

927
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: DNA as a team. Were the Seahawks who a year ago,

928
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't know where they were in these power rankings,

929
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: but we were laughing at the idea of Geno Smith

930
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 1: and Drew Locke and fill in the blank doing anything

931
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: and they make the playoffs because because that because of

932
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: that organization. So it's the Jets are selling us a

933
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: massive organizational see change. That's cool now, but it's like,

934
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: you know is better than anyone. It's like when we

935
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: hit when we get to October November, it could look

936
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,919
Speaker 1: completely different. So it's just you feel to me last week,

937
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: were you when I was talking about how I understand

938
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: there could be reasons to be negative and the history

939
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: is tortured. None of that actually matters. Like what matters

940
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: when the games kick off on the field. I think

941
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: there's an organizational trust, especially from ownership, that things that

942
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: when things go wrong and there's always gonna be some

943
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: adversity during the season, that they are they an organization

944
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: that's going to handle it. While like you hope it's

945
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: different with this coach and GM and everything and they're

946
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: more important than ownership. But there is something in me

947
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: that like looks at Ravens and looks at Jet and like,

948
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 1: if they're close, I'd probably just give the edge of

949
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: the Ravens. And they're the Ravens. And I'm not pitching

950
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: this disastrous scenario either. You had them at sixteen at

951
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: the end of the season. The Rodgers thing is nice.

952
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is I Seahawks, Lions, Dolphins above the

953
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: Jets for me, right now, they're sitting down around thirteen fourteen.

954
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: There's promise and we'll let's go. Or you would have

955
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: them at thirteen and fourteen maybe okay, so not that

956
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: far off. It's not that far off. But to vault

957
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: the Jets into the top ten in this kind of

958
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 1: exercise is a headline grabbing move, Colleen. These guys once

959
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: hosted the Debate Club together. We're sitting here, as you

960
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: don't say, bystanders. I just want to say this because

961
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: the one thing that does annoy me is when people

962
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:49,479
Speaker 1: twist this stuff. No one knows this has a chance

963
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: to go terribly more than I do. Do not think.

964
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: I think this means I'm certain the Jets are going

965
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: to be great. This is a projection of what they

966
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: could be. And if if Aaron Rodgers is there unhealthy,

967
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: you want to their potentially never you're not like this one,

968
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: students say, I am. I'm out here saying there's no

969
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: way the Jets aren't going to be awesome this year

970
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 1: the exercize they're ranked ninth. So that's why we're discussing

971
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: it now. It makes sense to me there's a borderline

972
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: playoff team or like sort of lower and plaything, which

973
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: which sounds about right to me. I'd probably have him

974
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: eleventh or something, but that sounds their tent. But that

975
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: sounds about right that one of the teams in the middle.

976
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: That shocked me the first of all. I might have

977
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,479
Speaker 1: the Vikings not in the top twenty two or something.

978
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: Oh you know what's funny before we go to your thing,

979
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: because that in terms of on social media, after I

980
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: posted this on Twitter, the heat I was getting over

981
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: Vikings fans that were annoyed with me that I have

982
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: them at sixteen. Vikings fans not annoyed with you. Well,

983
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: they do the same with Kirk Cousins. They want them

984
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: rank fit QB. Now I'm ready to reset. They just

985
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: feel like a rebuilding type of team. I think they're

986
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: gonna there's a decent chance. They saw on Mock Draft

987
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:56,479
Speaker 1: Live back on NFL Network hosted by for Tuesday, DJ

988
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: put Hendon Hooker, the twenty five year old quarterback prospect

989
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: who's coming off an injury with Minnesota in the first round.

990
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 1: So I think they could be like using a quarterback

991
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: on the first round pick. It just feels like a transition.

992
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: Carolina at eighteen was as surprising as almost any team

993
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: months entire list. I mean, I know they have some

994
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: players on their defense, and they do have the number

995
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: one pick coming, but I just feel like they're like

996
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: a bottom five or six team in the in the

997
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: NFL at this point. They lost their receiver Djork Like

998
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: it's just a bad it's not a great group. I

999
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: know their offensive line played pretty well. I like Frank

1000
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: Reich in general, but just feels like they're kind of

1001
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: a team that's that's starting from scratch. We'll see how

1002
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: the number one pick plays. Maybe he'll be awesome right

1003
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: off the bat, but it's a lot too expeact. No

1004
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: that and that's not part of my projection is not

1005
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: about the number one pick really, but going back to

1006
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: the Falcons. Now, Yeah, you could definitely make a case

1007
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: they shouldn't be separated by ten spots. I just like

1008
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: I see the Panthers of a team that's going for it,

1009
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: and they're being aggressive this offseason, and they're making a

1010
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: bunch of moves and they're going for the quarterback they've

1011
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: they've wanted and they're going to get the guy they

1012
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 1: own the draft right now. And I see the Falcons

1013
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: as a team that's just you know, we talk about

1014
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: the Saints or they're okay with going nine and eight,

1015
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: Like what are the Falcons trying to do? Like they're

1016
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: just gonna in year three of Arthur Smith. They're just

1017
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: gonna turn it over to Desmond Ritter and Taylor Heineke,

1018
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: And I'm supposed to get excited about that. I just

1019
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 1: their ranking is about me, And you know, I write

1020
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: it so like maybe it's not the most analytical breakdown,

1021
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: but it's like what team is more kind of lost

1022
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: in the midst than than the Falcons? To me? I

1023
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: mean not many you could from the quarterback angle. They

1024
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: believe in Desmond Ritter if they stick with him, way

1025
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: more than you do, and way more than a lot

1026
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: of people do. That's fair, but they've been as aggressive

1027
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: as any team out there to try to improve both

1028
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: sides of the roster. Bringing Jesse Bates was good, but

1029
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: I just don't feel like the Falcons have a ton

1030
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: of Jews. Also, I want to know, like, what are

1031
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: some of these other regrets that you have with Let's

1032
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: let's go through that because the whole episode once we

1033
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: should remember we regrets. I have the Commanders too low,

1034
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: and I think that's like, if the Giants are twelve,

1035
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: the Commanders can't be twenty nine. I was annoyed about that,

1036
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: but also I think some of that is like I

1037
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: feel like the organization is just trapped in purgatory until

1038
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: they figure out this ownership thing. So I'm just kind

1039
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: of don't you feel like when you're doing this lists too,

1040
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: it's like, crap, what someone's got to be between there's

1041
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: very little separating like twelve, wow, that's also to them

1042
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: down on the Giants, but very little separating twelve you know,

1043
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: to fifteen and like some of the mid twenties teams,

1044
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: but like the Giants is to cycle back to them.

1045
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: Like the reason why I have the Jets above the

1046
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: Giants is a lot of this, especially this timing of

1047
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: power rankings is like kind of a projection. I just

1048
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 1: think the Jets have a higher ceiling than the Giants

1049
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: right now. So that's why I have them ahead, and

1050
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: I guess they if I could do it again, maybe

1051
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: the Giants are down a couple spots in then the

1052
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: Washington Commanders are up about three or four or five spots.

1053
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: But that was probably the big one that stuck out

1054
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: to me. Go ahead, Greg, I'm been surprised that the

1055
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: Packers are still I just have a feeling this is

1056
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: gonna be one, you know, my one of my takes

1057
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 1: that we end up repeating for five months because ways

1058
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: to go. But I think the Packers were incredibly unlucky

1059
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: last year in terms of the close games that they lost,

1060
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: some of the injuries that they had. Certainly I think

1061
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm giving Lafleur some credit and their front office some

1062
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 1: credit for winning thirteen games three straight years. I'm taking

1063
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: into account Aaron Rodgers wasn't peak Aaron Rodgers last year,

1064
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 1: and I'm taking layer evaluation of Jordan Love into account,

1065
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, like, if I look as a Lions fan,

1066
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: now that's what we all are, like, who are the

1067
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: Who's the team I'm worried about. In the NFC North,

1068
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 1: it's still the Packers. Like if you told me the

1069
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: Packers come out this year and they go eleven and

1070
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 1: six and they've still got a lot of good players

1071
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: on the roster, that wouldn't shock me at all. And

1072
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: that's the organization of the coming down right now in

1073
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: the NFC North. It's so early, But my guests would

1074
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: be Detroit would be a slight favorite over Green Bay

1075
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: and Minnesota. How about that? Vikings fans are gonna come

1076
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: after you now. I think I think the Packers they

1077
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: haven't done anything, which is very annoying. Like if I'm

1078
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: a Packers fan, why aren't you signing Dalton Saults? Like

1079
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: you have no one it right? Tight end? Like you

1080
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: haven't you? Just I know they'll do something eventually. But

1081
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: there's some there's some pieces there that you like a

1082
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: lot in terms of both sides of the ball. Really

1083
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: and you know the Ravens at number thirteen, which Connie is,

1084
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: we know number thirteen? What is number thirteen? It's like

1085
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 1: the twilight Zone. Yeah, it's like the team that I

1086
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: don't know what to do with them. They kind of

1087
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: confuse me. It's hard to figure it out because so

1088
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 1: I kind of just slap them at thirteen and move

1089
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: on with my life. And like the Ravens, the reason

1090
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: why they're they're perfect thirteen and why they're they're outside

1091
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: the top ten is because, yeah, maybe Lamar's back, maybe

1092
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: is not. It's probably still leaning more towards that he's

1093
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: not back, But I don't know. This may be one

1094
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: of the rare times where they think they belong at thirteen.

1095
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: They don't know what great what's going on. But because

1096
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: of the Lamar thing, and maybe not because of some

1097
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: of their moves in recent years, I just feel like

1098
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: the whole organization is is fro because remember even when

1099
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: Lamar was there last year, and I know they changed

1100
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: the play caller and all that, but like the offense

1101
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: wasn't so hot after the first couple of weeks, and

1102
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: they it was very clear like we need to like

1103
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: build around this quarterback. We need to add some more weapons,

1104
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: give him a chance to develop it as a pastor

1105
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: Is that happening right now? They haven't able to do anything.

1106
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: Where is the forward momentum of the Baltimore Ravens. And

1107
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: that's why I couldn't. I couldn't have him in the

1108
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: top ten. That's why I have him behind the Dolphins

1109
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: and the Jets and the Charges and the Jaguars because

1110
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: I can't. Usually I would just plug that that's a

1111
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: top ten team in this exercise last in recent years,

1112
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: this time of year. But I can't do it right

1113
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: now because I don't know what they're doing. I say,

1114
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: one of the thing for them that is this sort

1115
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: of raging X factors. You went out and got Todd

1116
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: Munkin as your offensive coordinator, and they're actually like probably

1117
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: having him go look at quarterbacks you like in the

1118
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: draft that we can get somewhere, because this is a

1119
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: guy that right now you're in the deep shadows trying

1120
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: to figure out a completely new offense. You're moving away

1121
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: from Greg Roman, away from Lamar Jackson Central potentially, Like

1122
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: that's not a good set up because it seems like

1123
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: we're a billion ways years away from the season, not

1124
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: in this not with this kind of stuff where you're like,

1125
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: what do the Ravens even look like on offense? To

1126
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: our parts, to our players even fit the drafts, Like

1127
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: four weeks away, they lost Bend Powers, they cut Klas Campbell,

1128
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: who is visiting with the Falcons. They just had those

1129
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: those veterans that Okay, it makes sense, you're not going

1130
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: to keep them forever. We'll see if any of them

1131
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: come back. But they were kind of key pieces for

1132
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: their team last year, justin Houston, Marcus Peters, even a

1133
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: JPP who came in late. Like, I'm not worried about that,

1134
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: but they just feel like they have a lot more

1135
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: moves to go. And when Devin Duvernet is still your

1136
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: number two, it is a little concerning. They seem to

1137
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: me like the most likely Hopkins. They haven't made any

1138
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: feel like they feel that feels right right, just because

1139
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: I mean, and I guess I don't know, does he

1140
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: have a no trade clause or anything? Like why would

1141
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: Hopkins want to go there right now? I don't see what.

1142
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: Oh no, that might be part of it too, that

1143
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: it's like what offense are we going to build? We

1144
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: have to find out who our quarterback is too. There's

1145
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: got to be like we talk about like they talk

1146
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: about like, um here, what are the Jets gonna do

1147
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: if Aaron Rodgers doesn't go there? Like what are the

1148
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: Ravens gonna do if Lamar Jackson's there. What is their

1149
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: backup plan right now? What is their plan if he's

1150
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: not there? Yeah, like the first round picks and you

1151
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: can like tr the quarterback, have a little McCorkle jones,

1152
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go, let's give it to you, and

1153
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: that from the Tokyo Swallows. All right, there you go.

1154
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: Any other I think we covered it pretty well there.

1155
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: Just a mccorkill for Lamar straight up, you know, challenge

1156
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: trade that's suppressing. All right, good stuff, great job anything else,

1157
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: anything else anyone wants to share. Talking into a microphone

1158
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: being opportunity for all everyone in the room right now,

1159
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: justin you as well. Thanks Dan. I have nothing night

1160
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: right now, but I need to have bigger heads up

1161
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: to think of things to say. God bless you. All right,

1162
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: let's go, I mean unless somebody had something. Oh we're

1163
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: going out with the outra. I don't hate this song.

1164
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: It's a good song. You know, it's a banger. Gets

1165
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: me ready for more power rankings. All right, we're gonna

1166
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: be back with one more show this week. Connie, Thank you,

1167
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: you said it all of course, anytime until next time.

1168
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: Heed the call.