Speaker 1: I just wanted to give you the space for you
Speaker 1: to just tell us about Johnny Angel.
Speaker 2: I mean, I could have been on the plane with
Speaker 2: my mom. It's just got to be a reason that
Speaker 2: I'm still here. After the pandemic happened, I slowly just
Speaker 2: started to becoming a little bit more like private, low
Speaker 2: key and just letting people know, like the bare minimum
Speaker 2: about myself.
Speaker 1: What up, guys, I hope everyone had a really great weekend.
Speaker 1: And a special shout out to Boston Nation. I love
Speaker 1: you guys so much. I just wanted to say thank
Speaker 1: you for being so supportive and being there from day one.
Speaker 1: I love you guys so much, and you guys are
Speaker 1: going to love today's guests. One of my siblings is
Speaker 1: joining me today and I'm super happy about it. We're
Speaker 1: gonna hear from my baby brother. So let's go ahead
Speaker 1: and get to talking. This is Cheeky's and Chill. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you guys, you have probably guessed who our guest
Speaker 1: is today. Yes, it's my other Johnny, my baby boy,
Speaker 1: who's not such a baby anymore. I feel like you
Speaker 1: guys don't really hear about Johnny, so I wanted to
Speaker 1: bring him on again. The last time he was on
Speaker 1: the show, he was on with Jenica, but this time
Speaker 1: is just gonna be him and I, just the two
Speaker 1: of us. So, Johnny Angel Lopez, how are you.
Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm good. I'm not sure why I'm so
Speaker 3: nervous about this one.
Speaker 2: I just like, I didn't just come back from siat
Speaker 2: to Mexico and did like a whole press conference and
Speaker 2: interviews over there and ship for the first time, which
Speaker 2: is Jackie.
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you, guys. They were out in Mexico,
Speaker 1: Johnny and Jack's promoting my mom's new album and it
Speaker 1: went amazing. And I'm so proud because your Spanish, Johnny
Speaker 1: has gotten so great. I'm so so proud. I got
Speaker 1: so many compliments about you.
Speaker 3: I've really really tried my best. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, you're doing good. You're doing really really good. Okay,
Speaker 1: john So, first of all, those of you who may
Speaker 1: not know, I am the eldest of five and Johnny
Speaker 1: is the baby of the family. He's twenty two going
Speaker 1: on twenty three. He lives with me. He's actually in
Speaker 1: his room right now and I'm downstairs. He's very nervous.
Speaker 1: As you guys could see, I was sixteen years old
Speaker 1: when my mom was pregnant from Johnny. And I was
Speaker 1: the one that caused my mom to go into labor
Speaker 1: with Johnny because I upset my mother because I told
Speaker 1: her that I had a boyfriend and that I really
Speaker 1: liked him and that I was not going to break
Speaker 1: up with him because she didn't allow me to have
Speaker 1: a boyfriend. It was like, she's like, you're too young,
Speaker 1: you have to focus on school. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I really like this guy, and you know, basically I
Speaker 1: was being rebellious, and she got so pissed at me
Speaker 1: and she went into early labor and then here comes.
Speaker 3: John This is when you were sixteen.
Speaker 1: I was sixteen years old. It was Junior, my very
Speaker 1: first boyfriend. His name is Enrique. They called him Junior.
Speaker 1: Do you every crazy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so no, it's it's just like Mom's reaction is
Speaker 2: just crazy. Like she was like letting Jenica date when
Speaker 2: she was fifteen, and like was like, I don't know
Speaker 2: cordial about everything, but with you, like it was just
Speaker 2: like a completely different thing.
Speaker 1: That's true, But I think has to do because I'm
Speaker 1: the eldest and because she didn't know how to deal.
Speaker 1: It was always it was the first time for everything
Speaker 1: with me and my other sister, Jackie. You know, she
Speaker 1: did everything. I was like, what the heck, she's shaving
Speaker 1: her legs at eleven. I wasn't able to shave my
Speaker 1: legs until I was fifteen years old, So it was
Speaker 1: just it's fine. I don't judge my mother. I don't
Speaker 1: have kids, so I don't know what it is, but
Speaker 1: you are kind of like my kid. Because then at
Speaker 1: six months, my mom said here because no one knew
Speaker 1: about Johnny until I think my mom was six months pregnant,
Speaker 1: and he hid he hit on my mom's tummy and
Speaker 1: then once my mom because she didn't want anyone to know.
Speaker 1: She thought it was going to in some way like
Speaker 1: hinder her her career because it was like that's when
Speaker 1: it was rising, right, john.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a really unpopular time for her to
Speaker 2: have a kid, and she had just had her first
Speaker 2: sit on the radio, so it looked like she was
Speaker 2: finally going to be somebody after she had been struggling
Speaker 2: for I think like six years at that point to
Speaker 2: be like a good successful artist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was the last one and she had
Speaker 1: already was so criticized because she was a full figured woman,
Speaker 1: a single mother, and so she was just really scared
Speaker 1: of what is the world going to say, I'm having
Speaker 1: another child. She even thought about aborting Johnny quite a
Speaker 1: few times. And yeah, and that whole story is this crazy.
Speaker 1: And one day, Johnny, I'm sure he is going to
Speaker 1: write a book or go and just tell his whole
Speaker 1: life story because it's very interesting. But I just know
Speaker 1: that he's meant to be here and meant to do
Speaker 1: great things. And I've known since he was a little boy.
Speaker 1: And I basically raise this kid. I don't have any kids,
Speaker 1: but I feel like all my siblings are like my children,
Speaker 1: but especially Johnny and Jenica, and especially Johnny because again,
Speaker 1: my mom had to go back to work. She was
Speaker 1: the motor of the family, and she said, here's this
Speaker 1: baby boy, he's six months old. Take care of him
Speaker 1: because I have to go out and put food on
Speaker 1: our table and keep this roof over our head. And
Speaker 1: so I became his mom, his second mom. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: now Johnny's twenty two, and I don't know, Johnny, do
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about you, because I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people know, but I
Speaker 1: don't feel that they know who Johnny really is. Like
Speaker 1: who like your heart, your beautiful mind, how spiritually connected
Speaker 1: you are, everything you've been through, and the depression that
Speaker 1: you've had to deal with because losing both of your
Speaker 1: parents at the age of eleven. He lost his dad
Speaker 1: at nine and then my mom at eleven. That's a lot.
Speaker 1: That's a lot to deal with, you guys, And I
Speaker 1: feel it so much. It's happened. Even in the past
Speaker 1: year and a half, you received a lot of criticism,
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to give you the space for
Speaker 1: you to just tell us about Johnny Angel.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I feel like after the pandemic happened, I
Speaker 2: slowly just started becoming a little bit more like private,
Speaker 2: low key and just letting people know, like the bare
Speaker 2: minimum about myself, you know what I mean. Like, I
Speaker 2: just I still feel like a little bit uncomfortable about
Speaker 2: letting people in on like I guess you would say,
Speaker 2: private details in my life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in a really good place right now.
Speaker 2: This year, I think twenty two, it's been better than
Speaker 2: I've expected, and I'm much more solid grounded and I'm
Speaker 2: slowly becoming a lot more independent and it feels good.
Speaker 3: And it feels good because.
Speaker 2: Something it was something I was dreading for a long time,
Speaker 2: but I don't know, like the whole thing, just as
Speaker 2: you're about building credit and shit like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy. I literally sit down and write down
Speaker 3: my bills now like I would watch you do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel so good about about doing it. When
Speaker 2: I do stuff like that, or if I'm organizing my life,
Speaker 2: I always need a notebook, and I think about you
Speaker 2: and Mom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where I got it from. For my mom,
Speaker 1: she always had to do lists, and I still love them.
Speaker 1: I always have them on my phone, but there's something
Speaker 1: about writing them on a piece of paper that just
Speaker 1: feels more gratifying, like you know, checking them off. And
Speaker 1: Johnny grew up like watching me doing all this stuff.
Speaker 1: And I can't even explain to you guys how proud
Speaker 1: I am and how far we have come. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of of the young men that you've
Speaker 1: become that you are right now, john because again, you
Speaker 1: have been through a lot, and you born in the limelight.
Speaker 1: You were created in the limelight. Again, going back to
Speaker 1: when my mom got pregnant and she thought about aborting him,
Speaker 1: and how she kept him because he hid in the
Speaker 1: Filippian tubes. It's a whole crazy story, you guys. My
Speaker 1: mom went three times to the doctor's office to try
Speaker 1: to terminate the pregnancy, and he would hide or he
Speaker 1: wasn't there, and the doctors were like, what's going on,
Speaker 1: And then finally my mom was like, no, he has
Speaker 1: to be on this earth and that's what it is.
Speaker 1: And thank God because Johnny saved my life during the
Speaker 1: hardest times. You have no idea, Guys. I always call
Speaker 1: him my little life partner because we've been through so
Speaker 1: fucking much it's insane.
Speaker 2: And so that's like one of the ways I know
Speaker 2: God exists for real, because like I've gotten a word
Speaker 2: from like at least like three different times in my
Speaker 2: life from people like that have no idea who I am,
Speaker 2: like our story or anything. Yeah, and they've brought up
Speaker 2: about how I was rejected in the womb and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. I'm like, if God was going to kill me,
Speaker 2: he would have done it. Buy now, whenever there's like
Speaker 2: serious like turbulence on a plane and everyone's freaking out,
Speaker 2: like like, Okay, we're going to be fine.
Speaker 1: How do you feel, Johnny, Like now that you can
Speaker 1: look back, because guys, we went through Johnny wanting to
Speaker 1: end his life so many times, to the point where
Speaker 1: I got on my knees one day and I said, God,
Speaker 1: I don't know what else to do. Mom help me.
Speaker 1: This is especially after my mom passed away. Well that's
Speaker 1: really when it started, because he was eleven.
Speaker 2: And even even before, yeah, well you remember, like because
Speaker 2: I found an evaluation this year that my mom did
Speaker 2: for me in August of twenty twelve.
Speaker 3: And even then, it was they were asking me questions.
Speaker 2: About why I had suicidal thoughts, and I was answering them,
Speaker 2: like I used to have them a lot, but I
Speaker 2: don't anymore. But then obviously Mom passed not that long
Speaker 2: after that, that's when it started again. But I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily consider myself suicidal at all anymore. There's
Speaker 2: always like that daily thing like I don't know, I
Speaker 2: just feel like you have to keep pushing forward.
Speaker 1: And with everything you've been through, I obviously understand it.
Speaker 1: I had those moments, you know, with everything that I
Speaker 1: went through. But do you feel like it's because you're
Speaker 1: in a very good place, like you finally found your
Speaker 1: purpose that you feel, Okay, I'm here for a reason,
Speaker 1: and you really truly believe it that those thoughts have
Speaker 1: kind of they're like hopefully gone forever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think I went through a big,
Speaker 2: like just spiritual awakening in twenty twenty about you know,
Speaker 2: understanding my purpose why I was here.
Speaker 3: Why.
Speaker 2: I mean, I could have been on the plane with
Speaker 2: my mom, very very close, and I didn't end up
Speaker 2: going with her, And I'm like, there's just got to
Speaker 2: be a reason, and I'm still here, and I'm hoping,
Speaker 2: like the first twenty years of my life were crazy,
Speaker 2: just so the next twenty years of it could be really,
Speaker 2: really beautiful, and I have a feeling they.
Speaker 3: Are going to be.
Speaker 1: I think so. I think so. I think you have
Speaker 1: a beautiful, a beautiful mind, and I love to hear
Speaker 1: you speed. There's so much that he teaches me. You guys,
Speaker 1: this guy is so intelligent. Both my brothers are, well,
Speaker 1: all my siblings, but the boys just have this different mind. So,
Speaker 1: kind of going back to the limelight, do you feel
Speaker 1: because you were born in the limelight, you're a little
Speaker 1: bit more private Because even my producers, you know, they
Speaker 1: do the research for every guests we're going to have,
Speaker 1: and they were like, hey, there's not a lot on Johnny.
Speaker 2: I feel like in the first ten years of my life,
Speaker 2: I was I mean, I was very aware, you know
Speaker 2: how smart I was. I knew who Mom was, I
Speaker 2: knew what exactly she represented, and I was very proud
Speaker 2: of it. I would have a superiority complex over that.
Speaker 2: And I feel like I was a little bit more
Speaker 2: prone to, you know, wanting to be on stage or
Speaker 2: stuff like that, more for attention rather than passion before
Speaker 2: and then after Mom passed, I think I slowly, just
Speaker 2: like I started to not necessarily resent it, but like like,
Speaker 2: for example, we were six months after six seven months
Speaker 2: after Mom passed, doing autograph signings for the book and everything,
Speaker 2: and I knew we had to be grateful and everything
Speaker 2: because these people were giving us love and at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, they're who fed us. But I
Speaker 2: don't know, it put me in a very weird, like
Speaker 2: limbo state with how I felt about Mom. Because funny enough,
Speaker 2: like I was very like excited whenever we would have
Speaker 2: something big, and I would still always be listening to
Speaker 2: her music. But like the way I felt towards like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I guess being famous it made me
Speaker 2: feel weird because I also I was smart enough to know.
Speaker 3: That, like, fuck, we gotta be grateful. We got to
Speaker 3: pick our battles.
Speaker 2: And then fifteen sixteen is when I felt like like
Speaker 2: fifteen through eighteen mus been is when I feel like
Speaker 2: I was like in a state of like maybe maybe
Speaker 2: seeking attention a little bit more. And then nineteen twenty
Speaker 2: to right now is like where I'm like, I know
Speaker 2: who I am, I know what I want, and I
Speaker 2: don't necessarily look for attention in the wrong places anymore.
Speaker 2: Like I have solid people around me, and yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: in a really good place.
Speaker 1: And that's an amazing thing to know at such a
Speaker 1: young age, because in your twenties is when you're still
Speaker 1: trying to figure shit out. You know who am I,
Speaker 1: what do I want? So I think that that's great.
Speaker 1: I love that you've learned, especially with your private life,
Speaker 1: that you're like, you know, I don't necessarily have to
Speaker 1: share all of it. And and I wish I would
Speaker 1: have known that, because I feel like I shared so
Speaker 1: much of my private life for so long, and I
Speaker 1: felt it came and bit me in the ass. And
Speaker 1: now I just like to especially with my relationship with
Speaker 1: the media, I'm like a little bit more private with it,
Speaker 1: and I just it's more sacred. I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: feel that need to have to share that part, Like
Speaker 1: it's just and I think it's probably because we did
Speaker 1: reality for so long where we're like I've felt at least, well,
Speaker 1: I already did it. I did reality, like I have
Speaker 1: to share my life now and that's not necessarily the case.
Speaker 1: Like I'm still human at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: We're still human and people shouldn't take it bad, like
Speaker 1: for what you just said, Like it's not that you
Speaker 1: were being an ungrateful kid. It's just you lost your
Speaker 1: mom while she was working on a plane to go work,
Speaker 1: and people need to also see that side. It's like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you're famous and your mom this and you're say, wait
Speaker 1: a second, but I'm still human. This is still my experience.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly how I feel about it, because.
Speaker 2: I feel like there's certain things I feel like you
Speaker 2: can let people in on, and if you let them
Speaker 2: in too much at one point on once you try
Speaker 2: to be private over something, then they think what you're backing.
Speaker 1: Up for, like they resent it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like while you're acting brand new and.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of that, like, well, well, you shared
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and I'm like, yeah, and I learned
Speaker 1: from it, so I don't necessarily want to share everything,
Speaker 1: and I think that that's cool. It makes you even
Speaker 1: cooler to be like, you know, I don't share, and
Speaker 1: I don't. It's not even that I don't want to share,
Speaker 1: it's just Jano man Nasko month this. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to share everything. I want to enjoy
Speaker 1: the moment because for so long I didn't because I
Speaker 1: was so wrapped up in social media and doing this
Speaker 1: and it's just like, wait, like I deserve to also
Speaker 1: have this for myself, you.
Speaker 2: Know, even something like I learned like a long time
Speaker 2: ago when on Instagram, like when I would like when
Speaker 2: I would attag people, I sneak tag them because then
Speaker 2: just because they were connected to me, and some people
Speaker 2: thought it was cool and everything that other people were
Speaker 2: thought like it was kind of weird. And I just like,
Speaker 2: no matter what, I just want whoever associates with me
Speaker 2: to be able to have a normal life.
Speaker 1: Right Yeah, Because I've also feel bad because there's people
Speaker 1: that have been around us that get backlash people that
Speaker 1: like us and start talking crap to them or follow
Speaker 1: them for the wrong reasons, and then later on we
Speaker 1: don't talk to that person for whatever reason, and then
Speaker 1: they it's just it's a whole cluster fuck. But I
Speaker 1: get that. And and bottom line here, guys, is that
Speaker 1: we are very grateful and we know who our mom
Speaker 1: is and we're so grateful for everything that her career brought.
Speaker 1: But also, guys, can't forget that at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, we have feelings, we have our own thoughts.
Speaker 1: We've gone through so much publicly. Mikey, our brother, he's
Speaker 1: always want to say, you know, for a long time,
Speaker 1: he resented my mom's career because he felt like that's
Speaker 1: what took her from us, and we had to share
Speaker 1: her for so long with the world that it was
Speaker 1: just we we didn't have a lot of time with her,
Speaker 1: you know. So that's a whole other episode. But talking
Speaker 1: about Mom, John, and I know this might be a
Speaker 1: heavy question, but sometimes I go back to those days
Speaker 1: of like how it was when Mom passed, because you know,
Speaker 1: everything was just so weird between her and I and
Speaker 1: it was tough, you know, like going back to that
Speaker 1: when you found out about Mom's passing. Obviously there's a
Speaker 1: huge difference in age. You know, you were eleven now
Speaker 1: you're twenty two. And I think that I bring up
Speaker 1: this question too, because I remember you telling me, You're like,
Speaker 1: I'm so scared of getting to the age where I
Speaker 1: lived longer without my mom than with her. Yeah, how
Speaker 1: do you feel about that now? Because you're what, you're
Speaker 1: going to be twenty three, so it's going to be
Speaker 1: eleven years soon.
Speaker 2: I've been thinking about that a lot, actually, I think.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just a very very weird thing
Speaker 2: I think about. I didn't think about it like this
Speaker 2: much with my dad, but I think I thought about
Speaker 2: it more with Mom, just because she's just because Mom's
Speaker 2: presence has been so loud in our lives, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, It still doesn't feel like she's left.
Speaker 2: That's something I even say about Like Jayla, I believe
Speaker 2: her when she says she has glimpses of memories with Mom,
Speaker 2: because Mom never necessarily stopped being around, whether it was
Speaker 2: music or video or anything like that, like when people
Speaker 2: pass in a normal family, like they don't have what
Speaker 2: we have. I don't know, she's still just this present
Speaker 2: even after all this time, and I don't know she's
Speaker 2: still teaching me things I feel like even more so,
Speaker 2: like in the last three four years, like I've learned
Speaker 2: so much from her, like just as as a human
Speaker 2: being and thinking about how she would want me to
Speaker 2: be better. Way she handles situations, like she's still teaching me.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, yeah, And I feel that because thank goodness,
Speaker 1: you know, we have the reality show to look back
Speaker 1: on and certain things that she said, and I feel
Speaker 1: like she's still teaching us and stuff that you're finding,
Speaker 1: even like her notepad, you know, it's like little hidden
Speaker 1: messages that she's leaving us. But I think more than
Speaker 1: anything you because you spent less time with her, you know.
Speaker 1: So I feel like all these hidden gems, the music,
Speaker 1: the notepads that you find, it's all gifts for your
Speaker 1: heart and your mind, you know. And it's like I
Speaker 1: smile and I'm like, she's still here. She's still here,
Speaker 1: Like like I know she's not here, but she's here.
Speaker 1: Like she does some crazy shit, you guys are, I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's mom, mom, god, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1: She's moving things around, She's still doing her Jenny magic
Speaker 1: is how I always call it. Right, How has it
Speaker 1: been to be raised by me? Be honest. I know
Speaker 1: I've been tough. I know I was tough, and I'll
Speaker 1: say you, guys, I was a tough one. I had
Speaker 1: to be though, raising a boy it's tough.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think you did a really solid job with with
Speaker 2: not just me, but with Jenika too. It feels weird
Speaker 2: to talk about yourself, say like, oh, I'm a good
Speaker 2: person like this, like that, Like it's just because we're
Speaker 2: we're af lout at the end of the day. And
Speaker 2: I don't want to come off with egocentric, but I
Speaker 2: think I think I do my best to be a
Speaker 2: really fucking good person, and I think a lot of
Speaker 2: the time I just think about.
Speaker 3: Like how how it reflect on you and how you
Speaker 3: would expect me to be.
Speaker 2: I mean, whether I'm at whether I'm at someone's house
Speaker 2: or doing interviews or something like just like you said,
Speaker 2: like people have been like telling you things about about
Speaker 2: me that, yeah, it makes me feel good.
Speaker 3: I mean that, Okay, I'm doing the right thing. So
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not a perfect person, but I think given every
Speaker 2: thing I've been through, I think I'm pretty solid.
Speaker 1: I agree, I completely agree that's what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: am proud when people from Mexico send me messages that
Speaker 1: haven't messaged me in months. Hey, I just interviewed your
Speaker 1: brother and your sister. They are so sweet. They're so intelligent,
Speaker 1: like Johnny no sore, no, like just so many things,
Speaker 1: and how respectful you are. And I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't help but be like, thank you God, Mom.
Speaker 1: We did a good job. You and I we did it,
Speaker 1: you know. So that makes me for sure very happy.
Speaker 1: And you know, some people might think, like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: weird that you know, Johnny's gonna be twenty three and
Speaker 1: he still lives with his sister. And I don't see
Speaker 1: that weird at all. And I'm gonna tell you, guys, why,
Speaker 1: Because you.
Speaker 3: Lived in the house until you were twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Exactly, because I lived exactly because I lived at Mom's
Speaker 1: house until I was twenty six twenty seven. And I seriously,
Speaker 1: my plan was, I'm gonna live with you forever, even
Speaker 1: if I get married, my husband's gonna move in here,
Speaker 1: or I'm just gonna grow old with you like that was.
Speaker 2: That would have been Mom's ideal things. She would have
Speaker 2: gotten a giant house for all of us to live with,
Speaker 2: all our.
Speaker 1: Kids, a total freaking Latin family. You guys. My mom
Speaker 1: was like dra gon sale Sposo, bring the sway, I
Speaker 1: getta bring everyone. She never wanted her kids to leave
Speaker 1: the nest. And it's crazy because that was the plan
Speaker 1: for so long. You know. Okay, one time I was
Speaker 1: gonna get married the very first time I got engaged,
Speaker 1: and the whole plan was he's going to move in
Speaker 1: with us, and that obviously didn't work out. But then
Speaker 1: when my mom asked me to move out that one
Speaker 1: year she passed away. It's crazy because I feel like
Speaker 1: everything happened the way it was supposed to. I didn't
Speaker 1: understand it then. Obviously, I was like, what the hell
Speaker 1: is going on? Like, we have a plan, mom, but
Speaker 1: it was to prepare me to be strong enough to
Speaker 1: withstand what was coming, you know. And it was not
Speaker 1: even what six months before she passed or a little
Speaker 1: bit more than six months, but it was just it
Speaker 1: was just crazy. And do you feel, Johnny, that everything
Speaker 1: happens for a reason? Do you really really feel that?
Speaker 1: I know it sounds like a cliche, but do you
Speaker 1: feel like, given everything we've been through and how it's been,
Speaker 1: do you feel like everything has happened the way it
Speaker 1: was supposed to happen.
Speaker 2: No, I really feel like even if God allows something
Speaker 2: horrible to happen, like it's going to have reasoning behind it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like because people are e
Speaker 2: free will at the end of the day.
Speaker 3: But I do, I really do feel like we we.
Speaker 2: Come here with lessons that we have to learn, and
Speaker 2: we know what we're signing up for, like our souls,
Speaker 2: and we're just here to learn absolutely as.
Speaker 1: Human involving creatures, yes, and talking about evolution and change
Speaker 1: and things happening for a reason. I'm going to ask
Speaker 1: another question, and again, guys, we didn't prepare at all,
Speaker 1: which is why I think Johnny was so nervous in
Speaker 1: the beginning. And if you don't want to answer.
Speaker 3: It, you don't, yeh. But I liked it better like
Speaker 3: that though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. I like to win things. I like
Speaker 1: to be surprised. Okay, So my question is all the
Speaker 1: shit that happened starting last year or was it this year? Anyways,
Speaker 1: the whole thing with the accounting with the extended family,
Speaker 1: the one really that sparked everything was you. You know,
Speaker 1: you had been asking me to do it, to do
Speaker 1: the accounting for months and months and months years actually
Speaker 1: I'm lying years since you were I want to say,
Speaker 1: sixteen fifteen, and I just didn't want to steer the pot.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to open up a kind of worms.
Speaker 1: I was just like, no, like at that time felt
Speaker 1: you know, it's our family at the end of the day, whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, do you regret it? Do you regret because
Speaker 1: you got a lot of shit for it? And that
Speaker 1: pissed me off, you guys, because as his older sister,
Speaker 1: as his mom, I was just like watching this and
Speaker 1: I can't help but to defend my siblings. And I'll
Speaker 1: go to freaking war for my siblings, you know. And
Speaker 1: I'm more of like peace and love, but especially when
Speaker 1: they're in their right that's where I get very defensive.
Speaker 1: But do you regret doing that? Do you feel like
Speaker 1: it was the right thing to do? Are you happy?
Speaker 1: Because it has been tough?
Speaker 2: You know, Honestly, I really don't regret it, and if anything,
Speaker 2: I just regret not having done it sooner. Truth be told,
Speaker 2: I only didn't do it because I really didn't want
Speaker 2: to hurt anyone's feelings, rustle anyone's feathers. But I got
Speaker 2: to a point where, you know, there was just certain
Speaker 2: things I couldn't ignore, and I just exiled myself from
Speaker 2: my family, and I figure, you know, I got nothing
Speaker 2: to lose at this point, so I'm just going to
Speaker 2: do it. It happened, and I think, honestly, once the
Speaker 2: smoke settled, it became one of the most peaceful times
Speaker 2: in my life. Honestly, I can't say I can complain
Speaker 2: at all. Like I'm just very very happy with where
Speaker 2: I'm at. And I think I just keep getting confirmation
Speaker 2: from God the universe, whether you know it's through the
Speaker 2: Bible or stuff I find at the office, Like you know,
Speaker 2: what I did was the right thing, confirmation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and see, and a lot of people have this misconception,
Speaker 1: and I'm fine with it now. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: really don't care. But where it was like I forced you,
Speaker 1: I forced you to do that. And it's like you, guys,
Speaker 1: if you guys only knew how intelligent, how freaking why
Speaker 1: is this manned? Because now he's a young man, he's
Speaker 1: been since he was a child. Johnny was at six
Speaker 1: years old, and you guys could probably find these videos
Speaker 1: on YouTube. I don't know if they're still there. He
Speaker 1: was six years old, making moving what do they call
Speaker 1: poppy with the legos?
Speaker 2: Well stop motion lego movies. You can't find you can't
Speaker 2: find them anymore because I have them all on private.
Speaker 1: But John should upload them.
Speaker 3: John, I can't. I can't, can I just can't.
Speaker 1: My mom and I would be like, dude, what like
Speaker 1: you guys should read on it because I don't really
Speaker 1: know like the definition definition of an indigo child, but
Speaker 1: my mom was told that Johnny was an indigo child,
Speaker 1: special gifted kid. Well, yes, at six years old, he
Speaker 1: was doing this in hours and building the legos and
Speaker 1: making the move and making them talk. So just putting
Speaker 1: that out there, okay, I mean, hopefully one day he'll
Speaker 1: let you guys watch them because it's pretty crazy, but
Speaker 1: there's no way. I've just always been that type of
Speaker 1: sister to say I'm gonna I have to respect you
Speaker 1: guys as individuals and you guys have a mind of
Speaker 1: your own. And when Johnny was eighteen, I said, okay,
Speaker 1: like I have to respect this, and he's been asking
Speaker 1: for it for a long time and I didn't do
Speaker 1: it for whatever reason, and a part of me really
Speaker 1: does regret it as well. I'm like, fuck, I should
Speaker 1: have done this sooner. But you know, everything happens when
Speaker 1: it's supposed to happen. Los Santos. And now, like you said,
Speaker 1: right now, John, I completely agree with you. This has
Speaker 1: been the most peaceful time in our life since Mom left.
Speaker 1: I really think so separating ourselves from certain situations and
Speaker 1: certain things, and it's just I feel the liberty to
Speaker 1: just be myself. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get exactly what you mean.
Speaker 2: I just feel solid, like I know who I am
Speaker 2: I and I don't necessarily have to, you know, act
Speaker 2: a certain way to please anyone anymore.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, And I want to say thank you.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've even thank you. Now. What's
Speaker 1: the best and worst thing about being raised by me?
Speaker 2: I think the best thing was, honestly, like your lessons,
Speaker 2: like you just had ever since I was little.
Speaker 3: You had this way.
Speaker 2: Of like just keeping me optimistic and like just trying
Speaker 2: to put light in my life. And it wasn't necessarily
Speaker 2: like through like religion or anything, but you made it
Speaker 2: very You made God like a very clear presence of
Speaker 2: my life ever since I was a little boy. All
Speaker 2: you guys did Mom, Jackie you, but I remember, like
Speaker 2: just the way you presented him and the way you
Speaker 2: just presented life to me. It taught me so much
Speaker 2: from a young age, and I didn't start understanding it
Speaker 2: a lot more until I was like nineteen, until these
Speaker 2: last three four years, and then I.
Speaker 3: Think the worst thing.
Speaker 2: I think the worst thing is that, like let's say
Speaker 2: I was like thirteen or fourteen, and I was like
Speaker 2: on a streak of like being really fucking good. Like
Speaker 2: let's say I was really trying to be good and
Speaker 2: I did something small by accident, you seas you would
Speaker 2: like react the worst or like you want to beat
Speaker 2: my ass. But granted, it was a really it was
Speaker 2: a really tough time in your life too.
Speaker 1: It was a tough time. But you know what, I
Speaker 1: will be honest with you guys. You guys know that
Speaker 1: I'm super transparent. I believe in disciplining your children, and
Speaker 1: I definitely disciplined Johnny, and I felt like he was
Speaker 1: the type of kid. Not all kids need it, but
Speaker 1: I feel like Johnny needed it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I was like you need Like I was very
Speaker 1: strict and sometimes a little too strict. I won't say
Speaker 1: that I wasn't because yeah, you were strict, but you
Speaker 1: I believe I did that.
Speaker 2: You were you were strict, but you also gave me
Speaker 2: so much fucking independence, Like you let me walk by
Speaker 2: myself through the streets taking the metro card to give
Speaker 2: me like that kind of independence.
Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever really talked about that publicly,
Speaker 3: but like.
Speaker 2: Thirteen fourteen, fifteen, like for a good two to three years,
Speaker 2: I was like getting myself to school in them trail
Speaker 2: certain places, you know, just I figured I figured out
Speaker 2: the whole bus system. And I'm sure you were wor
Speaker 2: shitless all the.
Speaker 3: Time, so I don't know. I don't know how fresh after.
Speaker 2: Losing Mom you let me do that, But honestly, I'm
Speaker 2: really glad you did because it character shifted me a lot.
Speaker 1: Well, I had to, because a part of me was
Speaker 1: like I want to protect him, and then sometimes I
Speaker 1: was too overbearing, and then I was like I have
Speaker 1: to also allow him to figure it out the way
Speaker 1: Mom made me do it. And I feel like I
Speaker 1: can't keep holding his hand although I wanted to and
Speaker 1: I still want to. I'm like, okay, wait, I have
Speaker 1: to just be like okay, Johnny, go just go, and
Speaker 1: I have to leave you in God's hands and that's
Speaker 1: what I do. Now, I'm like, okay, Lord, now you
Speaker 1: know he drinks, and he knows he better not ever
Speaker 1: drink and drive. He knows this already. But I'm just like, okay, God,
Speaker 1: just take care of him for me and Nimo.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Now now he's starting to party, you guys. Now he's
Speaker 1: liking the party life. But for a long time he didn't.
Speaker 1: I always knew. We're telling was in his room. Now
Speaker 1: Johnny's going to freaking raves.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Okay, he's living his life. You should
Speaker 1: do that in your twenties, absolutely, And all I have
Speaker 1: to do is just God.
Speaker 2: It actually took me a long time to get into
Speaker 2: that that phase in my life though, and I'm happy
Speaker 2: to know. Yeah, and I think I've done it in
Speaker 2: a really responsible way.
Speaker 1: You have. You're very responsible. You're very honest with me,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Johnny, where are you? And I have
Speaker 1: his location and it's just you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Not because I'm trying to be controlling, but I just
Speaker 1: want to make sure I know where he's at. He's fine.
Speaker 1: I feel like with your kids, if you the more
Speaker 1: you want to be controlling and hold him tight the
Speaker 1: more they want to rebel. So I'm just like, well,
Speaker 1: Nimo just got to kind of let him do his thing. Yes,
Speaker 1: he lives under my roof, and he has to respect
Speaker 1: certain things, but at the end of the day, he's
Speaker 1: still a young man. Okay, Now let's talk about Emilio Johnny,
Speaker 1: because you know, doctor Black, that's what you call him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he lives here.
Speaker 1: With us now, and yeah, I love that you guys
Speaker 1: love each other. Thank God, thank god you guys. Honestly,
Speaker 1: you have no idea how much peace my heart feels.
Speaker 1: And they text each other so much, like they tell
Speaker 1: each other that they love each other, and it's just like,
Speaker 1: it's really nice. They have a really nice bond. When
Speaker 1: I'm gone, they go to Korean barbecue together. So how
Speaker 1: do you feel? Are you excited or you more nervous
Speaker 1: about me getting married? Okay, guys, so we're gonna end
Speaker 1: this conversation here, but stay tuned for part two of
Speaker 1: this conversation with my baby brother Johnny. We'll bring that
Speaker 1: episode to you Mayana tomorrow, so stay tuned for that. Besitos.
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