WEBVTT - #Throwback Episode - w/ LL Cool J | (Ep.89) 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:16.120 He is drink Chess motherfucking podcast make He's a legendary 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:16.960 Queens rapper. 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:18.640 He ain't agreed as your boy in O R. 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:21.959 He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. One up his DJ 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:24.599 E f N. Together they drink it up with some. 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:26.239 Of the biggest players, you know what I mean. 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:31.280 And the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one source. 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:34.479 For drunk fast drink chans mo d is New Year's Eve. 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:38.559 That's it's time for drink champs. Drink up mother mother. 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:46.880 Hey, Hank sagree, hope you Savia, it's your boy and 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:51.640 dot oh dot R dot E what of his d 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:52.760 J E f N. 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:54.800 And it's drink Chess mother bucking broadcast. 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:06.160 Right now, we have what I would like to call 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.360 the King of hip hop, what I would like to 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:14.000 call the King of alternate. What I mean by that is, 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:18.119 after your career has been done, he's the person who 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:22.240 put out the blueprint for what you're supposed to do 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:28.640 after your rhymes. This motherfucker is the King of Queens. 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:33.880 I'm saying it. I'm from Queens. I feel like I 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:36.800 have the authority. He's the King of Queens, the King 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:40.479 of New York, the King of hip hop. First artist 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:44.640 ever signed to death jam rackets, which means that. 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.200 I might not existed if it wasn't for this one. 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:50.320 A lot of. 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:53.800 Jam. 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:55.720 This is real ship. 0:01:56.400 --> 0:02:00.360 And right now we got the god father. I might 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:05.160 I might just call him the father a motherfucking Queens, 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:16.839 New York and everything else we got. L appreciate that love, 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:18.280 l L listen. 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.919 Can I call you? Of course in my mom and 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:22.880 my mom I always call you uncle L. In my mind, 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:25.320 I don't know what like. 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:25.960 I like even when you say with something me, I'm 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.600 like uncle, you know, like I just I got so. 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:30.919 Much respect for you, Thank you for you. And then 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:31.400 and then you. 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.440 Came to my hood though, do you remember came to 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:38.959 my hood. It made me like and then run DMC 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.480 came to and Diggie Simmons came, and then Diggie Simmons 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.280 he smashed me all the little girls in my hood. 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:45.000 Now, but. 0:02:49.600 --> 0:03:00.160 You put a found into around but L we got. 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:08.880 I don't care what you say. It's but I gotta, 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:11.840 I gotta, I gotta tell you how how important you mean. 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:12.440 The queens. 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:17.000 Thank you man, uh, not only queens, because if you 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:19.280 look at queens, you look at people like you nas 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:19.960 run DMC. 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:22.560 You gotta look at the whole spectrum of hip hop. 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:25.960 So if you say a person was a leader of queens, 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.840 a person was actually the leader of a whole generation. 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:32.960 So now you have people like Drake, you have people 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:36.080 like jah Ruh, you have people all these people who 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:41.160 actually they can't say they didn't pattern their style after you. 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:43.520 How do you feel about that? 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:48.760 Well, you know, you know hip hop is, you know, 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:50.680 hip hop is a complex thing, man. I mean, at 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:53.560 the end of the day, like you know, you know, 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:56.440 if you're a decent look at fella, you gotta damn 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.080 kill yourself to be accepted by dudes, you know. 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:02.240 What I mean? Yeah, pretty much the best. I mean, 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:02.760 look at Pop. 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:04.640 You know it's a handsome dude, but look what he 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.960 had to do with you guys, accept it, you know. 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:09.600 I mean, if if I made one more chance, it 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:11.880 would have called it a love song, but from Biggie 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:14.440 with something else, you know what I mean. So you 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:17.400 know it's kind of like, you know, you gotta you 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.279 gotta have it takes courage to do what you love 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:20.920 and to do what you believe in, you know what 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.000 I'm saying. And that was my thing. It wasn't a 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:27.240 matter of you know, I just wanted to have girls, 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:28.240 you know what I mean. 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:33.000 You know my friends did too. I mean, you know, 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:34.520 I figured I made some songs and. 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.640 Trying to get some you know, I didn't you know, 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.159 I didn't realize that that was like you know, because 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.200 you know the thing with hip hop is that you know, 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:44.320 if you're not if you're not hit, if you're not 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:48.839 spending gun balls and talking about packs, that gold title 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:52.400 is gonna be alusive for you because you know, most 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.640 of the time the voting members, that's what they really 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:57.960 you know, the fellas really, that's what they really want 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.560 to to you know what I'm saying. But you know, 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.279 I just decided that I was gonna do what I 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:05.200 wanted to do. I had the balls to just do 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.440 what I wanted to do, So you know, I did 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.120 hard records and love records and hard records and weird 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.440 records and creative artsy ship. 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:13.800 Do you think do you think? 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:19.040 Because I think that al perfected the hard record and 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:22.360 then the crossover record after that, and then Biggie kind 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:26.480 of took that style and the reason why I want 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.360 to ask you, have you ever thought like that because 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.520 of the flavor in your air. It was like they 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:32.920 kind of try to keep you closer. 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.480 This is me as a fan. I have no flavoring 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:37.200 I mean flavoring year first of all. 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.200 Flavoring Year is so crazy because so many people thought 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.240 he ship. They're doing some of my trainings or some ship. 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:46.080 You know what I mean. You know what I. 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:56.680 Run around here talk about that shout out to my 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:57.440 man time fight. 0:05:57.760 --> 0:05:59.640 That was something that we used to say all the time, 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.760 you know, saying just when it was on and popping. 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:04.840 I had no idea that when they was gonna spell 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:06.680 out the syllables, we was gonna be and you know, 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.960 all with all love and respect, you know, Tranningville, you 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:11.440 know what I mean. They know he's gonna be there, 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:12.080 you know. 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.400 With all love and respect to everybody, you know, do 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.560 what you want beefing, you know what I'm saying. 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:20.799 But uh yeah, you know, look, man, whether it's Big 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:24.120 or Nas or you know the other guys, Like I 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.160 respect all the artists for what they do, you know 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:30.240 what I'm saying, and respect anybody who's original and and 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:31.920 does it from the heart, does it from the soul, 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.240 like you know, I was listening to that Kendrick record, 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.360 and when he had said, uh, you know he does 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.640 it from the soul, you do it, you know, for you, 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.560 it comes from the meds something I'm paraphrasing, you know 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:46.000 what I'm saying. I just love I love hip hop, 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.160 you know, I love the culture. You know, I love 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.040 everything about it. But the thing was, you know, also 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.520 at the same time, you know, I was never gonna 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.760 be a slave to the music business, so meaning that 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:58.800 the first time that I went and sigh down and said, oh, 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.039 I'd like to get X amount as an advance to 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.800 this album, and somebody like they shoulders shook a little 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:04.760 bit when you. 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:09.120 Radio that. 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:27.280 Hero, we forget it, so, you know, but I just 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.440 you know, look, man, I just like to do everything. 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.880 You know. I don't feel like you should limit yourself. 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:34.640 You know, if you have the talent that if you 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.080 have the talent to do many things, you shouldn't be 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.080 afraid to do that because dreams don't have deadlines. And 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:42.320 you know, a lot of times, you know, in our culture, 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:46.280 especially in the black community and as young males, you know, 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:51.880 we get boxed in to what marginalized. Well no, not 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.760 just marginalized by mainstream society, but boxed in in the 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.080 sense that you know, you feel like there's certain things 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.400 that you might have dreams, but you don't think it's cool. 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.240 You know what I'm saying. You might want to you 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.680 might be in ourgami, you might be in something. 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:09.480 Like knitting like blankets, like and putting them over gates. 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:12.600 Like think, because you're not a rap off or you're 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:14.560 not a basketball player, you're not cool. 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:15.840 And we got to take that. 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.440 We do that to ourselves with our music too, because 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.920 we don't give yourself We don't give ourselves freedom, you 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.200 know what I'm saying, Like, we don't give ourselves the 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:26.600 freedom to do what we want to do. We always 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:28.720 feel like, you know, every every time I make a song, 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.880 I got to worry about what with this particular set 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:34.960 of friends thinks forget my imagination, but I might be 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.360 imagining some other ship. It's not that I don't want 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:40.520 to make records that my friends like, but what if I. 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.040 Think of something else? Why can't I do that? 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:42.400 Right? 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:43.360 Why can't I do that? 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:45.480 And so that's the thing that I kind of always 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.520 acted on that impulse. You know, I never you know, 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.839 I never was like I just wouldn't listen to that, 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:53.800 you know, you know what I mean, like, I just 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:55.720 do what I want to do because oh. 0:08:55.720 --> 0:09:01.160 Your love, but I gotta, I gotta get to this. 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.839 I never you know, I've been seeing you for twenty 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:06.800 years and I'll never asked you this question. 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:11.079 What is pink cookies in the plastic back getting crushed 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:17.920 by building I've been going with whatever, any nigga said, 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:22.680 I'll tell you. I'll tell you what it means. It 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:23.439 makes sense now. 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:25.840 I was on the phone with a girl right and 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:28.120 you know what I'm saying, Marley Studio, and she was 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:35.880 talking Molly, Mam. 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:33.040 Yeah, and I. 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:38.760 Had I had smelled some weed, but I didn't in hell, 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:45.079 you know. And uh, you know after I smelled the weed, 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.080 you know, after smelling the weed, I laid on the 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:49.760 couch and I was talking to this. 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.520 Girl and she said, I was like, you know, yeah, yeah. 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.360 She was like, what are you talking about? Said baby, 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:54.800 I don't know. 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:58.240 I'm thinking about cookies in the plastic bag getting crushed 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:03.040 by buildings right now, she said, she said. 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:08.079 And what she said what I was like, that's. 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.960 A song, said your mother said, your. 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:17.839 Molly, let's get it. So I went downstairs. You know 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.079 what I mean Molly made the record, you know what 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:20.360 I mean. 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:22.079 Let me tell you. 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:25.240 So it was so complicated that I knew the explanation. 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:28.959 Yeah yeah, it wasn't. 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:35.400 Yeah yeah yeah, you know yeah. 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:35.400 Yeah, I'm not even I ain't coming here to line 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.240 run for office. You know That's what it was, you know. 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.240 And I had the miniature satellites floating in closets, fine 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:41.840 and pockets. 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.240 I had a few of them. I got more of 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:46.120 them jumping out. 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.880 Of a football jumping out of a helicopter into a 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:52.520 football stadium filled with cotton, candy and ship kind of money. 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:53.840 I'm gonna tell you some crazy ship. 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.840 I'm gonna tell you one thing. Al I know you 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.240 don't know you taught me this. I know you don't 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.200 know you taught me this. But I was on the 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:05.000 Top forty tour, right, and I only have seven dates 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:05.760 on the Top forty tour. 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:10.200 You had like seventy, right, And I didn't ride on 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:12.520 the private jet. I was commercial everybody. 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:17.520 But if you fat Joe Puff daddy Jah rule, this 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:20.440 is this is that tight. But I got seven dates. 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:24.560 So every date that I had had with you, like 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.520 you had your room and then you had your room 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.880 for your people and I never disrupted you. 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:31.840 I never came in there. But there's one day I 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:33.920 was like, you can I speak to L And I 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:34.720 was like, who is it? 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:37.800 And they said nor He said, let that, nigga, And 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:39.640 I felt like you was shadow boxing. I don't know. 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:42.040 That before. 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.720 You came in and I said, yo, L, because you 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:50.080 had gave out roses this night. You had gave out roses, right, 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:54.120 So I said, hell, Like, I'm eighteen nineteen at the time. 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:58.480 I'm so young. So I'm like, oh, every girl in 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:02.040 the crowd is for you. Why are you not out there? 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.600 And you know what she told me. You said I 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:09.840 rolled my wife And I said why he said, because 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:11.320 I never get in trouble. 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:13.920 Yeah, yeah yeah. And let me tell you something to 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.920 this day, I rolled my wife. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:23.800 Why you you really don't you know? Why get the 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:24.960 money back? You know what I mean? 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:40.120 Like like, and you know, you know the crazy thing is, 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:41.720 younger brothers come up to me and be like. 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.480 Yo, Nory, why are you rolling with your wife? And 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:47.440 I just be like, I'm gonna use that now? Would 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:50.280 you say? I don't want to give but you know, 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.520 you know, you know I have moment Snory in my life. 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.840 You know what I mean, I have you know, you know, 0:12:56.120 --> 0:13:03.319 uh you know, yeah. 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:04.920 But I you know, but at the same time, yeah, 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.720 we can't. Yeah, he had a he got easy tiger. 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:09.959 You know this raw it's raw, it's rough out there 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:11.439 some water out there. 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.040 Then I didn't know though when you told me that, 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.600 I was like, I was bugging well and then I 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:17.560 had to actually live. 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:19.800 And then when I lived, I said, so you thought 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.080 he was bugging out when he told you that. 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.840 Oh no, I in my mind that part he said, 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:28.640 of course, like and then years later. 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:30.720 I was like, you got I understand. Reminds me of 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:32.199 a story I was. You know, I won't say his 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.560 name because I want to nobody. 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:38.200 Right, it's wrap du you know. 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:40.040 Back and day he came to me like, yo, yo, 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:42.960 L you know, let me hold something, you know, some paper, Well, 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:44.120 let me hold something, you know. 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:44.880 I tried. 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.960 I tried to tell him about He's like, yo, let 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:49.800 me hold something. And I tried to tell him, you know, 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.080 talk to him about stocks and bonds and ship like that. 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.000 He was like, yo, L may telling us some stock. 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:58.360 Let me hold something stocks and bonds. So that reminds 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.480 me of that, Like at a point, so you're not. 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.320 You only can understand it when you're. 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.600 Ready for it. You did what sound ready for it, 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:04.880 and a. 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:06.959 Lot of times, you know, and that's true with music too, 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.000 because you can do music and put it out there 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.280 and people just don't understand it and it flies over 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:13.439 their head and they catch it later, you know what 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:13.959 I'm saying. 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:17.640 Sometimes that happens too. Whoever seen all perform before I 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:19.040 raise your hands? 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.320 God damn it, it should be more people raising your 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:22.240 fucking hands. 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.040 Let me just say you something. At one point in 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:28.520 the show, he takes off his shirt. He just get 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:32.680 every woman a flower and they super wet. You could 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:37.640 just tell because their heads. I'm getting wet. It just like, 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:44.520 damn are you wet? Like that's the goal. And you 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.760 know so, I'm a kid, I'm eighteen, nineteen years old. 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:50.640 Chris Lighty's like, Yo, you gotta go, you gotta follow 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:51.040 l L. 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.160 I'm like, all right, cool, and I'm doing it. 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:56.360 They're all on private planes. It's okay, I'm getting there, 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:58.720 just commercial. What is okay? 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.960 I'm still happy and I'm like OL and L. 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:06.560 It's like he knocked none of them down, believe it. 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:10.040 Like first I was like yeah, yeah, yeah, and you 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.440 were so you know, content and now you know you 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:14.080 can't handle it. 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:20.280 I live like, do you approve my lifestyle? 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:22.800 Lord? 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:23.800 Can you seven wives? 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:24.880 And hell? 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:28.440 Can you? Ain't judging the last two days? 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:28.640 Ever? 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:30.880 Gonna judge you is me? No, I may need you 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:36.880 to prove my life to say I approve this message. 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:40.160 I lived ten years behind you, because you know my 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:44.120 I got Halloween in my closet. Time now now. 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:51.560 All type of bones and toss and type of bone 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:57.640 away from that list bones spines hanging over the closet 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:01.880 door school album. 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.200 Man, I gotta ask you this for this. 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.680 This is not for the for the podcast, This is 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:12.560 not for anything. This is because I sincerely respect. I 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:16.080 love COOLJ. I looked up to our COOLJ. But you 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:21.000 did kind of crush cannabis career early and I never 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:25.000 knew why, like me personally, like you know what, no, 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:28.440 I know the industry answered why. I mean, you know, 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:30.320 the real he disrespect you in the session. 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:32.840 What happens because you're a queen's nigga, and I respect. 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:38.480 What happened, you know, I mean the real, honest answer 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:39.840 is that you know, one day, you know, we was 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:41.320 I was on my way to student and that came 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.240 up to me and you know, and you know, my 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:47.840 you know, uh, because it's a little taller than me, 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:49.240 I'm not going to crush his career. 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:50.800 It was a little taller than me a. 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.080 Little bit, so you know, he walked up and he 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.840 was like, yoll you know yo, you're tattooed. Man, like 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:57.680 your tattooed and get one like that. I said, now, 0:16:57.920 --> 0:16:58.960 you know you gotta get your own. 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:03.400 You know, I didn't understand that, like mentically, like I 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:04.640 just didn't understand that. 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.399 It's your own joint, Like I didn't really know. I 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:11.240 just didn't understand it. Like it was no disrespect. I 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.280 was like, you got yourn I'm give one like that. 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:17.920 And then after we had that conversation, when I got 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:19.879 when I went in and heard his boss, he said, 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:21.119 is that a mic on your arm? 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:21.840 Let me ball that? 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.919 And I just like was like I just did not 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:29.679 understand it. I just you know, I couldn't understand it. 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:33.560 I just bl okay, And. 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.480 That was it. Take me from that moment he already 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.000 had is tu that you already had your version and 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:38.639 then you changed it? 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.920 Is that No, that's not the truth. Is I went 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:44.600 in I heard what he said, and I responded, to 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.680 the ship that's on your record, you ain't off. 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.119 I was too ignorant for that. 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.000 A smart guy, you know, jay Z would have took 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:55.720 him off the record. 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:59.040 You know, let's do it smart. I was an idiot. 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:07.560 Everybody ignorance, ignor. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you. 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:09.600 At that time, I was. 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:17.800 Running around and now for some reason, and he said, 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:20.160 do you know what's going on? 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:24.640 I'm acting like I'm dumb. 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:36.600 I'm like, no, l L is battling cannabis. 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:35.600 Serious And he was looking at him, but mother, I 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:36.520 know what's going on. 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.080 But I'm like worn, But he's like yo. 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:42.600 But then yeah, but see the thing is what people 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.679 don't know is that I you know, after that I 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:47.680 saw him cannabis and after. 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:48.280 You crossed his career. 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:51.439 Well no, no, I saw. 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:53.440 Him and I said, yo, he was just debating about 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:55.120 putting a song about me out. 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:55.960 I said, yo. 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:58.960 I went to him, I said, yo, you know what, Okay, 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:00.919 it happened on the record. Said first of all, nobody's 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:02.800 gonna know if you don't make a record. 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.840 I said, that's the first thing I never knew. And 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:07.560 now that's a very important part of YEA. 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:11.879 I told him this, so you saying, before before. 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:15.080 We record came reaction record came out, I met with him, 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:17.920 I know, I said, yo, I said, don't put no 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:19.000 record out of nobody's gonna know. 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:20.800 Just leave it. And you know, I got a little 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:24.399 high hand. It's between us, leave, he said, if I 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:26.640 don't put it out on the politics. 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.680 And and I'm like, you know, and and then why 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:30.960 cleft's over in the corner and the betting. 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:37.680 And ship cuts him up, you know, up the now 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:41.240 why no, no, I love, it's all good. 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:43.679 But then he put the record out, and then you know, 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:45.760 then the rest because I told him, I said, yo, 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:46.960 let's just do a record together. 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:50.320 You know what I mean said yes, I said that, 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:51.200 so yes, I said. 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:52.240 We should have did a rec Let's just do a 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:52.800 record together. 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:54.919 We could, you know, because I didn't really want the drama, 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:56.760 but you know, it is what it is, you know. 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:59.359 And then you know, I just responded and that was it, 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:00.919 you know, and we we did what we did, and 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:01.280 you know. 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:05.560 You know, around you crusted. His career's makes annoy for 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:09.760 so we ain't gonna make him. Don't worry about it. 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:13.640 We're gonna make no sway, and I don't don't pad 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:14.280 in him too. 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.720 I'm going to going to cool. But how did the 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:22.720 ship started? How did that start? Because it seems like 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:25.280 al al now, you might not start it, but you 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:26.520 definitely finished. 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:26.600 What I said. 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:28.359 I said on the record, I said I'm only eighteen, 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:29.399 making more than your pops. 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:33.760 And he felt offended by that. What making more than 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:34.280 your pops? 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:35.800 And he was offended because he thought it was the 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:37.160 wrong message he was making. 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:39.359 Well, no, no, he thought I was. 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:42.520 Sending a bad message to young kids out there like 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:45.239 I was because I you know, looked when I coming up. 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:47.639 When I was growing up, you know, sixteen seventeen eighteen, 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:51.120 like seventeen eighteen nineteen, I was always with rich Porter. 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:53.400 I was always with al Po and a Z and 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:55.399 my man Big Chuck from Mount Vernon took me with them. 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:57.439 So that's who I used to be always hanging up with. 0:20:57.440 --> 0:20:59.119 I would be on one, three two, And you know 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:01.159 I was always uptown, not not fact Cat, even though 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:03.200 he was from Queens. I know Prem and I knew 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:04.800 you know, the for Tartle brothers and all of them. 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:05.760 I knew, I knew them. 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:11.080 But I was like to make no, no, I was. 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:11.840 I was a shorty. 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:13.639 So when I like, when I knew that for titles, 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:15.040 they was giving me warm champagne. 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:16.720 Like, hey man, you begging for champagne, you know what 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:17.040 I mean. 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:20.040 But when I started hanging out with Chuck, yeah, I 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:21.560 got all the champagne. 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:24.200 I don't take it, personna. Make sure. 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:28.520 So when I you know, when I used to hang 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:30.440 with with you know, with our Poe, and when Chuck 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:31.960 would take me around to hang with our Poe and 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:34.800 Azy and and Rich and all of them, and Black 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:38.840 just used to come a little lady, he rest in peace. 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:40.800 You know. 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:46.040 I just came up, you know, in a different you know, 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:48.200 thought process, you know what I'm saying. 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:49.879 And I just tried to do things right, you know 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:51.160 what I mean. That's all basically. 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:53.399 Did you know Benmy was the biggest drug dealer in 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:55.760 Queens when he was hanging with him at one point, 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:57.640 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 0:21:57.520 --> 0:21:59.640 I know then was my man. You know what I'm saying. 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:03.240 I with Bem, you know, you know the whole time, 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:06.560 you know, I was. 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:10.399 In some of his initial escapades. He got you. 0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:13.439 But you know what the thing is about that when 0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:15.440 people have to understand about that is that first of all, 0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:16.480 we don't want to glorify that. 0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:19.160 No, it's not cute. We do not. And it's a tough. 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:22.480 Life and it destroys lives, and most of the guys 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:25.199 that are really doing it for real wish they weren't, okay, 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:27.520 and the ones that are really successful at it really 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:29.000 wish they were successful. 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:29.920 At something else, anything else. 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:32.040 This is a horrible way to live, okay, And we 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:33.720 confront nack like it isn't, but it is. 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:35.240 It's a very tough way. 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:38.399 To live because I've seen it firsthand for real, and 0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:44.439 but you know, it taught me a lot. Though I 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:46.080 learned a lot. You know, I forgot the point I 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:47.080 was trying to make because I was. 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:49.159 No because you know why, you know, I'm telling you 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:51.880 the point that you're trying to make because at one. 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:57.840 Point so so basically he thought that I was glorifying 0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:03.320 that lifestyle when I said eighteen, so he wanted to, 0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:05.840 you know, be conscious about that. But what he didn't 0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:08.959 understand is that, you know that I'm an eighteen year 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:11.560 old young man and I don't know anything else but this. 0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:15.920 I'm growing up in the hood. I'm just growing upout yeah, 0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:17.520 But when you're growing up in the hood and I. 0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:19.960 See a car drive by, that's all I know. It 0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:22.880 ain't And I see a guy how he gets it, That's. 0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:23.159 All I know. 0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:26.119 It's not about I'm not even thinking about right and 0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:30.120 wrong and consequences and ruining my life. And you don't 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:32.720 even think on that level. That doesn't even coming to 0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:34.240 your brain. The only thing you think. 0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:37.199 Is I'm here and the money's there, and where do 0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:38.960 I gotta go to get it? That's all you really 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:39.480 think about. 0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:41.840 Now when you're older, you get in your thirties, your 0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:44.480 late twenties, and you know, maybe even forty, you can 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:46.919 start reflecting and kind of cleaning up your life. So 0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:49.119 I think he had the right attention, but that the 0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:52.080 problem was that he wasn't merciful and understanding that. 0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:53.520 I was a young kid, and this is all I 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:55.159 was thinking now on the MC level. 0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:58.360 You know, you know, I've never shot away from trying 0:23:58.400 --> 0:23:59.600 to snap somebody's head off. 0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.080 You're not gonna lie, you know. I feel like you're 0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:05.480 still in the battle right now. Right now, I feel 0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:09.119 like it's still on a battle right now. I felt 0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:13.359 like he was gonna beat Charlamagne. Recently, what happened. You 0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:15.640 know my think, no, no, no, My thing. My thing 0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:18.640 with Homie is, you know, you know. 0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:21.320 He he he likes to get on the radio and 0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:24.199 bully people. You know what I'm saying. I don't like 0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:27.160 bullies me neither. You know what I'm saying, I really 0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:30.320 don't like bullies. And you know, I understand he's a 0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:32.520 smart guy. I get that, but the bully thing didn't 0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:34.359 work for me, and I felt like he was picking 0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:38.239 on me and undermining my my, my, my brand and 0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:40.720 my my my my five you know what I'm saying. 0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:41.960 But I wasn't gonna go up there and do the 0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:42.480 baby thing. 0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:44.520 I just told him. Look, I just told him, listen 0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:45.119 when you. 0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:49.800 Go, I love baby, that's my man. 0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:51.919 But I wasn't doing that. I'm not gonna go to 0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:52.320 your show. 0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:54.320 Your show. 0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:58.159 Why you make money when you're not doing that? 0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:01.800 By the way, that's the most viewed, I'm sure, and 0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:03.399 I'm sure a lot of seconds. 0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:07.400 Yes, But my thing was, look, you know, I said, look, 0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:08.480 let's just botch the charity. 0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:11.439 You know, I give you thousands and to beat people up. 0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:15.320 But I was accurate, You're gonna get so no, not 0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:17.439 for child when you're boxing for charity. 0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:22.120 I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm gonna be honest 0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:23.120 with you. Nobody want to box. 0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:26.720 I didn't want to, you know now I don't, but 0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:27.560 I don't want. 0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:28.080 I'm not. 0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:30.960 I have no problems with him. I wish him the best. 0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:32.960 Just leave me alone and don't. 0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:33.320 Pick on me. 0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:34.760 Just so you don't pick on I don't like to 0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:35.000 get you. 0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:38.240 You can everybody watching his pocket, No I can't. I 0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:40.880 don't plan. You can beat everybody in hip hop, you know. No, 0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:44.840 I don't get Carrid, but there's some crazy one. But 0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:47.000 everybody watching. 0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:49.840 This podcast, don't bully, don't be bullied, and don't pick 0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:50.200 on people. 0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:51.879 Because that was my only problem with that. And you 0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:53.760 felt like he was picking on yeah, because. 0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:55.679 He's always got something to say, like he doesn't understand. 0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:58.720 Like I give you an example, like, you know, everybody 0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:00.919 was mad at me, and I understand their point of view, 0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:02.679 but everybody was mad at me about you know, the 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:04.200 whole accidental racist record. 0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:05.160 You know what I'm saying. 0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:08.359 And that was a big conversation, right, and they thought, 0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:10.840 you know or El's you know, Aiden in the betting 0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:13.600 us forgetting your verse. 0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:15.800 Your verse when the change yeah, they did. 0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:18.520 So what they didn't understand is that, you know, now 0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:21.120 fast forward and look at the shape the countries in 0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:22.520 and you think about what me and. 0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:23.439 Him was attempting to do. 0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:25.919 It was ideological, but look at where to shape the 0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:29.000 country is in now. You people at that point thought 0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:31.720 that I was out of my mind for talking comparing 0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:33.840 a do rag to a Confederate flag. But now you're 0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:36.520 seeing little brothers get shot down every day because of 0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:38.879 the outfits. Whether it's a hoodie. It may not be 0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:40.920 a do rag, but maybe it's a hoodie with Trayvon. 0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:43.639 Maybe it's some sagging jeans. Maybe it's a brother outside 0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:46.280 of s UV getting shot down. That's the thing I 0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.879 was talking about. I was trying to humanize us. I 0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:52.280 would never suggest that we forget our history. That's absurd, 0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:55.040 Chris ludicrous. But you gotta be willing to Like I 0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:57.399 give you another example, Like people was mad at me 0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:57.760 when I. 0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:00.240 Said, oh, r P. Robert E. Lee, Oh I hate hell. Yeah, 0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:03.320 I could say that robberty E Lee, r P. Robbert E. Lee. 0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:04.280 They hated me. 0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:06.320 He was a general and the Confederate Army. Yeah, and 0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:09.480 I understand how people feel. But when that racist dude 0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:12.360 ran up in that church and he shot up all 0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:15.320 of those people and that black church down south, and 0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:17.440 then those black people got together and said, you know what, 0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:20.040 you know, we're praying for them, and we forgive them 0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:20.680 and we want. 0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:22.840 To send love to him. The country held. 0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:26.000 Them in high esteem because they were able to get 0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:29.200 pon their emotions and see the bigger picture. And that's 0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:31.000 what I was trying to show people, you know what 0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:33.640 I'm saying. But it took four years and all these 0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:36.680 people dying by the hands of corrupt police, because not 0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:38.639 all police are corrupt, you know what I mean, but 0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:40.880 dying by the hands of some of these corrupt policemen 0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:43.720 and dying at the hands in the wrong way for 0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.119 people to understand that what I was saying and what 0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:48.200 me and Brad were attempting to do was very real, 0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:50.600 you know what I'm saying. But that's why that hole. 0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:52.320 They laugh at you, then they ignore you, then they 0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:53.160 fight you, then you win. 0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:56.159 Thing. It's true because they laughed at us. 0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:59.080 Then you know that's and now everybody was laughing at us, 0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.280 you know, But then when you really and then they 0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:01.879 ignore us. 0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:03.680 But now look at what's going on. Now they're trying 0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:04.920 to fight that same. 0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:07.800 They trying to promote those same vibes, those same values 0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.840 that we talked about. So you know, that's about the courage, 0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:13.439 that's about art. You know, that's what art does. It 0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:14.280 provokes people. 0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:15.080 You know what I'm saying. 0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:18.040 I just want to say to you if you don't 0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:21.480 know how much you appreciated in the hip hop, No, 0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:22.760 but I appreciate hip hop. 0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:24.760 No. But listen, let me just tell you something. 0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.560 If it wasn't for L cool J, there wouldn't be 0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:31.879 a NOAs it wasn't for Nas, they wouldn't be a 0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:34.439 mob deep it was for a mob deep, they wouldn't 0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:35.719 be a component or Jega. 0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:38.880 So me personally, I want. 0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:40.560 To look at you face to face, out the eye 0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:43.959 man a man, and tell you how much that not 0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:45.680 only queens because we're not queens. 0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:50.240 It's limited. Even though queens we won the world. Yeah, 0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:56.840 can make that. Even though queens we won the world. 0:28:56.920 --> 0:29:00.680 But that's pretty funny. I did hear that, Yes, I 0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:02.600 did hear you. Give me I had a condo around 0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:06.800 the corner from his from his being raised for twenty years. 0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:10.200 God damn it, had a condo around the Trump God 0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:13.200 damn it I'm not gonna lie. 0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.120 I was this close to buying a condo next in 0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:19.040 his building because it's it was cost effective. 0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:33.400 Course effective, the Trump joint that. 0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.960 Yeah, but you came one day, I'm shooting a black 0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:40.640 Money video. 0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:44.200 Yeah, the most disrespectful record on my album. 0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:48.640 And I call for l L cool J to come through, 0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:51.800 and l J comes through my motherfucking hook. 0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:54.400 So I always love your music. No, no, no, I always 0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:56.280 loved your music. I always felt your music. 0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:58.160 You know what I'm saying. What all of that? 0:29:58.720 --> 0:29:58.920 You know? 0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:01.440 I mean you introduced world to the Neptunes and all that. 0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:06.480 I mean, you put you, you put on the man. 0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:08.840 But I met for real because of you. I can't. 0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:10.040 I should have meant for real. 0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:12.680 And that's when I did love you better and I 0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.040 ended up ultimately doing love you better than all the americords. 0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.479 But you know you, You've done a lot. You know 0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:18.560 you're an important person. 0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:19.440 What we're doing. 0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:22.160 That's why the podcast is so successful. I've been watching it, 0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:23.680 watching episodes. 0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:25.640 And CBS and me and e F Fam. We got 0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:27.600 some deals to bring you. 0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:30.920 I got your covet I that's a lot of stuff. Yeah, yeah, 0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:32.000 I got something. 0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:35.440 And the lip sync Battle. Yeah, was that your idea? 0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:36.720 Always have somebody else? 0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:39.840 Well, the idea came from John Krazinski and Steve Merchant 0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:42.080 and they brought it, you know through jam sound Rich. 0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:43.560 I don't know who they are, but they sound rich 0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:45.400 there Rich. 0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:50.680 Now it came to us and uh, basically you know, 0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:53.520 but I own the format along with my partners, and 0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:56.760 we've sold a format and over one hundred and fifty 0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:59.800 countries around the world, and we have like a partnership 0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:03.520 with like Carnival Cruises, and uh, you know, the app 0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:05.160 is starting to grow now and really. 0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:07.840 Doing well, the lip Sync Battle app, and I mean 0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:08.200 the show. 0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:11.560 And we've also we have different versions of the show 0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:13.840 around the world, so like in Tiland, it's like a 0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:17.000 you know, it'd be a tie host doing and we 0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:20.080 just did like Ukraine, and we did a deal in Russia, 0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:22.320 and we did a deal you know in China. We 0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:25.080 just did a big deal in China for Phillips in Battles. 0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:27.320 So that thing is global. And then you know, for 0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:29.160 people don't know as with like n C I s 0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:32.280 l A, I also have a vested interest in the show. 0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:33.840 I'm not just an act on the show. I haven't 0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:38.520 now that's the guy with the shooting people's a terrorist, 0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:41.720 and that's in two hundred countries around the world as well. 0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:43.480 You know what I'm saying. So it's it's you know, 0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:45.800 it's really going well, it's going well. 0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:50.080 You know, listen, I'm not gonna lie. 0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:54.440 When I looked at hip hop, right, I was tired 0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:57.320 of hip hop. I was just tired. Like I mean, 0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:01.760 I loved it. I still want to make it. I couldn't, 0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:04.840 God bless her dad. After Chris Light he died. I 0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:08.560 couldn't actually attack it the way I wanted to attack it. 0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:11.680 So I said, fuck it, let me just think of 0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:14.520 something else. And all I did was look at you. 0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:16.800 I looked at you and said, what the fuck is 0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:17.560 l doing? 0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:20.719 And ll because are you in shape? I'm not. I 0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:23.240 wasn't in shape back then. You said you're good. Now 0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:25.560 I'm a little okay. You look like you know you're 0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:29.520 doing handsteads something. You got something, watch it, watch watch 0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:31.360 your Instagram, but. 0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:39.680 Watch your instagram killing me. 0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:44.680 But I sat back and I said, what can I 0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:48.000 do to do something else other than the hip hop? 0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:52.120 Because music just gets boring, even if you're making money, 0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:54.080 music just gets boring now. 0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:56.120 But you know what, let me tell you something I don't. 0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:59.080 I don't feel that way. I think my thing is 0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:01.680 I just never limit myself. Like I said, if you 0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:03.880 have more than one talent, you should utilize them all. 0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:07.080 You know what I'm saying. If you're a Dion Sanders 0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:11.280 and you can play baseball and football, play both. You know, 0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:14.240 music is not off the table for me. You know, 0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:16.520 I'm not telling you that I'll never make another record. 0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:17.080 It's just right. 0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:19.400 You're gonna make another record right well, right now, my 0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:34.000 priority is TV. I'm sorry, certain it's beautiful. 0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:37.120 So I'm not saying this off the table. But you know, 0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:39.040 you gotta you gotta try different things. 0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:41.400 You gotta you know, you gotta move, you gotta you 0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:43.600 know what I'm saying, like make things happen, and not 0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:47.600 be like afraid to like fall back for a second, 0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:50.200 Like I'm not afraid, Like I don't feel like, you know, 0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:52.080 if I if I make a song, it'll be like I. 0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.800 Never left as soon as after the record go off. 0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:58.520 Because N two D Yeah this movie, oh yeah, that 0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:01.040 was yeah, that was stuck pull Stick of the Nigga 0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.240 as Yeah, yeah. 0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:09.080 Eight ball back Pocket. I didn't know you actually took. 0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:14.640 It's just eight ball to I'm sorry, I didn't know. 0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:19.080 You want to pull you win, you win that. Yeah, 0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.160 but you know, don't worry out. 0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:23.920 Don't worry out the videos, you know, the movies and 0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:24.440 so out. 0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:26.400 Sorry, yeah, no, it's all uncle. 0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:29.200 When it comes to the movies, I don't limit myself 0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:33.040 with the characters, whatever role it is. You know, I'm 0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:36.320 not above any roller blow, any roles. If I respond 0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:37.960 to the role and I feel like it's something good, 0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.520 I'll do it right now. Playing Sam Hannah on n C, 0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:42.239 I s little say Angel, this is a lot of fun. 0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:45.239 We're going into my next season. I know that you 0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.440 put your gun very professional that, but let me tell it. 0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:52.759 Can tell what you learned that? No, he talking about 0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:59.440 getting you at all? 0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:02.319 You know? Yeah, yeah, Now, I went down to like 0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:05.759 Camp Pendleton and trained with like the Marines and the 0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:10.440 Special Ops guys, the sailors down you know, hung out 0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:13.200 with a master gunnery sergeant from the Marines who taught 0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:15.520 me a lot. I went to SWAT school, you know, 0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:16.840 and did a lot of let's go back. 0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:19.279 To you stick the nigga and yeah, yeah hit him, 0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:25.000 yeah yeah he got the next question. Yeah, yeah, Well yeah, 0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:25.960 they sucked. 0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:27.880 Me up in real life. Yeah, him up and I 0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:40.640 knew you. I was good. But when down like, I 0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:41.439 was like, oh my god. 0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:46.760 He was like, oh yeah, you know that's a brutal scene. 0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:48.759 If you haven't seen it too deep, go check it out. 0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:52.040 It's a brutal scene. Is a brutal scene. Yeah. 0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.279 But going back to music real quick, you're one of 0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:56.440 the first New York artists to kind of be by 0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:59.120 coastal when you worked with Pooh l A Posse And 0:35:59.440 --> 0:35:59.840 how did that? 0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:04.319 I'm about basically what happened was, uh, you know at 0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:07.000 that time, you know, after my first album, Rick Rubin 0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:09.919 left def Jam, and uh, we were trying to figure 0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:12.160 out what my next move is gonna be because he 0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:14.799 produced my first album, the whole first album. Yeah, yeah, 0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:16.719 we did the whole first album together. It was his 0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:18.799 first album to first full album. 0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:23.600 And so after that, he can't just say that it 0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:24.319 makes a note that. 0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:27.640 Makes Yeah. 0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:30.440 So after that, Volt Cameras, you gotta start clamming to 0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:36.279 clapping too. I understand filming, but listen, Volt Cameras, you 0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:37.200 gotta clap too. 0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:43.200 I'm sorry you too, guy, all right, terrible, terrible, I'm sorry. 0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.840 So now, so you know, uh, you know. 0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:48.160 I went and Russell had heard, you know, the L 0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:50.600 A Posse because they had made some records that he 0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:52.960 felt was in the zone to introduced me to him. 0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:56.719 I met Bobcat, big up to Bob, you know, yeah 0:36:56.760 --> 0:36:58.799 from l A L A L All. 0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:02.879 Wasn't on the radio who mine? 0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:05.920 My first album was Radio. My first song was I 0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:08.000 Need to Beat. My first song came out in nineteen 0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:08.399 eighty four. 0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:09.319 It was I Need to Beat. 0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:12.239 Then I had I was born in seventy seven. Yeah, 0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:14.000 well give them my child. 0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:17.640 Then the second one came out like eighty five. The 0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.120 album came out like eighty five, and then it went 0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:22.680 from there. But the second album came out around eighty seven. 0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:24.279 But the first albums on Death Jam. 0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:27.279 It was on death Jam. Yes, this is Cela Rock. 0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:29.319 It's Yours was on Death Jam Productions. It was an 0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:32.520 imprint on Street on Party Time. It was Party Time Records. 0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:36.200 It was Death Jam Productions. And Rick was having problems 0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:38.680 him and Russell have and problems getting the money from 0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:40.800 Party Time for the is Yours Records, so they decided 0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:44.200 to start their own label. And I was the flagship 0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:46.480 artist and we made the first album and I actually, 0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:48.600 you know, first regular, I know that I owned a 0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:50.680 piece of death Jam as well, and I sold it. 0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:54.919 Yeah yeah, I sold it back to them. Yeah yeah, 0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:57.279 you didn't know that, yeah yeah. 0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:02.600 But the first record was radio radio on Rock the 0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:03.400 Bells radio. 0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.520 All of that was on first record. Yeah, and they 0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:06.799 went and. 0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:09.960 Got to deal with uh when got to deal with no, 0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:10.880 no, no CBS? 0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:16.920 CBS Yeah, Columbia, we got CBS right. 0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:21.000 Here in the building. CBS. Yeah. Yeah. You know, queens 0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:38.200 niggas get money with CBS. Oh yeah, certainly there's an 0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:38.640 answer to that. 0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:44.279 Ya. 0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:45.520 This is what I want. 0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:48.400 I want you to describe back in the days, because 0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:51.879 it was so rough walking down Jamaica as Oh god, 0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:55.239 I mean, I mean, listen, people think it's rough walking 0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:57.319 to Jamaica ad in twenty seventeen. 0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:01.200 They have no idea what it was. He's in the nineties. 0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:02.400 Can you describe? 0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:04.799 It was like every any piece of clothing that you 0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:10.080 had on that was moldly, mildly or remotely valuable was 0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:11.600 like asking people to rob you. 0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:12.719 Like like if you. 0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:14.520 Had to be at Gazelles on you buy somebody, your 0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:15.520 gazelles would say to. 0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:17.000 Them, excuse me, because you take it. 0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:20.360 It was like the gazelles. We're talking if you had 0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:25.720 a sheepskin and be like, hey, get me rock please, 0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:27.839 he said, help me. 0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:29.400 Come on please. 0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:34.800 It was crazy, Yo, it's crazy, and listen crazy describe 0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:35.280 to people. 0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:36.760 Listen, let me describe to people. 0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:40.879 Because one day Nas just told me, he said, one 0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:43.839 day me and is just kicking it, be talking and nah, 0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:45.520 I said, And he came to. 0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:47.920 Left Rack and he's like, he came to left Rack. 0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.920 He was like, I can't believe the amount of respect 0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:52.879 that nobody don't bother you here. 0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:56.080 And I was like, this is my hood, he said. 0:39:56.120 --> 0:40:00.840 Do you imagine what l L went through those days? 0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:04.840 Mind you, we had no fact. But remember remember I. 0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:07.520 You know, you know I was hanging with you know, 0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:08.960 the guys I was hanging with you. 0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:11.640 I wasn't really having a lot of problems like you 0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:24.960 knows right, yeah, you know, you know I was. 0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:27.280 I was with guys that were so official and thorough 0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:32.319 in the street that you know, you know, I mean, I. 0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:33.759 Wasn't having those issues, you know. 0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:36.640 And and I wasn't looking for me either, because you 0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:38.600 know what I've learned, I don't I never, I never 0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:40.239 in my life have tried to be a tough guy. 0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:42.759 And I never hung around gangsters and tried to act 0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:44.880 like I was one, because that's how you get yourself 0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:49.239 in trouble. Just be who you are, be yourself, you 0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:51.200 know what I mean. And so I never had a 0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:53.040 lot of issues. I had a few fights, you know, 0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:55.080 I grew up fighting. You know, I wasn't, you know, 0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:55.920 having a shootout. 0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:59.279 We could tell you a couple of down we knew 0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:00.760 you could fight, you know, a couple of people. 0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:01.000 You know. 0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:03.800 I had to come doune moments. 0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:06.359 I tell you a funny story when a little kid 0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:09.440 just a little mischief. So when I was a little kid, 0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:11.920 you know, when it was snow outside, we decided it 0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:15.160 was a good idea, you know, take like no, no, no, 0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:17.799 to take rocks and cinder blocks and cover them with 0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:19.640 snow and then throw them at cars. 0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:22.600 Like don't ask me why we thought this was a 0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:25.759 good idea, right breaking, you know what. 0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:29.799 So one day, so one day I'm in my grandmother's yard. 0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:32.680 Not to throw a god damn big ass rock with 0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:34.560 snow around it, because you know the car is not 0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:36.319 gonna stop. They say, oh, look at the little kids 0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:40.279 with snowballs and They're like, sh right, why didn't yo? 0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:41.359 We were so we was in there. 0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:45.640 A man came around the corner and I was looking 0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:47.920 over there and I seen the window roll down like that. 0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:50.800 All I see was a little flash, and like you 0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:54.920 all was running. I hit behind a snow mound. Did 0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:55.480 you hear me? 0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:56.359 A snow man? 0:41:56.600 --> 0:42:02.239 Snow bullets got snow man. And then I like ran 0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:05.120 fell down at the basement. 0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:12.439 Yes, he was soon flashing lights. Was the gun going off? 0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:13.640 You know what I mean? 0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:16.919 Flashing light lights? 0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:20.840 You know the lights lights? 0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:24.320 And I'm like rant and you know how to Queen's 0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:26.920 the basement windows got that that? I don't know what 0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:29.440 you know, it's like a you know, it's like a 0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:32.040 thing down in the house for the so you can 0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:34.160 open the basement windows. I found out there. Tore my 0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:35.919 ankles up and all that. So I had a little 0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:37.480 mischief in my life a little bit, but for the 0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:39.400 most part, I stayed out of trouble, you know what 0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:39.680 I mean. 0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:43.160 And I'm sorry to bring this up, but I have 0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:48.279 to bring it up. We're always managed by violator management. 0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:52.200 We all was under the tutors. I don't know if 0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:53.600 that's a word, but you know what I mean it 0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:59.120 is of Chris. Lady, I asked fifty cent this, I asked, 0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:00.920 all violator are that's when they come on here? 0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.600 Like because it affected me. 0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:06.880 Well, first of all, I love Chris deeply, and his 0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:10.680 daughter Tiffany is a good differend of my kids, and 0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:13.319 she's at the house all the time, and uh, you know, 0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:15.560 she hangs with my wife and hangs with the kids 0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:18.680 and all that. First of all, Chris and my relationship 0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:21.360 was a little different from probably yours in fifties because 0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:24.359 Chris got in the business after me, so we had 0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:26.360 a different You was already an yeah, yeah, I was already. 0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:28.480 So you know, we had a different type of relationship, 0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:33.600 you know, and you know we were friends, right and 0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:35.480 we were you know, I looked at you know, we 0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:38.759 looked at each other's counterparts. And he managed me. He 0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:40.200 did he made a lot of things for me. But 0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:45.319 our relationship, you know, was what you think, all right, 0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:48.880 what you think, Let's get axt let's get wild, like 0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:50.880 I remember when he was interning at Death Jam and 0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:51.560 stuff like that. 0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:53.680 But the thing I remember most about Chris. 0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:57.000 Is that he was a really really, really really smart 0:43:57.040 --> 0:44:00.360 guy and he was a good dude. Right, and he 0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:02.560 wasn't soft like I remember Chris used to let me 0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:04.960 in the tunnel when he was a bodyguard at the tunnel. 0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:08.920 Christ used to do security. Christian to do security tunnel 0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:12.320 and he would be outside. I heard he was running 0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:14.640 the tunnel. Heard his security. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He 0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:17.640 he was christ Christmas. 0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:20.000 Chris was you know, he may have been involved in 0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:23.239 the business aspects too. But when I seen Chris, he 0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:26.200 had a bulletproof vessel on outside the front door, like yo, 0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:28.920 And I like this. 0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:32.960 Man, mister man, come on in, YO. Know he's like 0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:35.880 a good fella. You know, he was a gagster, you know, Christmas. 0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:38.319 It was a real guy. I'm glad I met him 0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:41.760 later he was Yo, I'm telling you. 0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:43.520 And but I mean all of your all of the 0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:45.640 people you know, like I'll tell you just to switch 0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:46.319 gears for a minute. 0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:49.920 Like Leo. The first time I met Leo. Leo was 0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:50.920 a promoter in l A. 0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:53.640 And when I met him, he came to pick me 0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:55.280 up from the airport because I had a show. 0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:57.240 Where he was a promoter and promoter Angels. 0:44:57.360 --> 0:45:03.440 When you say l A Los Angeles, Los Angeles. 0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:11.280 And the driver's daughter didn't open. I mean the passenger 0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:12.600 daughter and opened you had to get in the call 0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:15.320 through the driver's side, both of us, and we drove 0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:17.160 and he was telling me how we're going to change 0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:18.160 hip hop and let. 0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:18.640 Me tell you something. 0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:21.280 He was prophetic though, because everything he talked about came true. 0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:25.319 But he was very much you know, I mean, this 0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:27.000 was a guy that was walking around with you know, 0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:30.240 no lasers in the sneakers, you know, behind like chasing 0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:32.719 behind jam as to Jay joint in his mouth, you 0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:35.600 know what I'm saying. Like he was a real like 0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:39.160 like he wasn't this the corporate titan that he ultimately became. 0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:41.120 But I always had respect for him because Leo is 0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:43.120 the one who made the deal. See, I owned my 0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:48.319 whole catalog. You still own I didn't, but I owned 0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:50.680 it ultimately with my deal. You know, when I got 0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:52.759 to a certain position with death Jam, I did a 0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:55.880 deal with I owned my catalog, right. Leo is the 0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:58.400 one that did that deal. So I have to always 0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:00.279 respect Leo for that because you know, he and have 0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:01.960 to do it. They were trying to figure out how 0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:03.640 to make a deal that was rich enough for me 0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:06.040 to want to stay, and you know, at the same 0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:08.359 time they wanted to come up to a certain number, 0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:10.359 but not go beyond that. So you know, I said, well, 0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:13.440 you know, give a catalog, and they said, okay, we 0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:15.759 work that out and we got the catalog. So deaf 0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:18.480 Jam has a really small interest in my catalog. 0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:22.000 I own it. And so when you hear llll cool. 0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:34.080 All that, when you hear ll Cali, yeah yeah, Mama said, yeah. 0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:37.120 You know, so when you hear my records and movies 0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:38.960 and on TV and stuff, I've licensed that. 0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:42.520 You know, anytime you hear llll cool j song, llll 0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:45.160 has licensed it. That's another goal I'm going to take 0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:47.560 after you. Yeah, I took I took the white Ship. 0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:49.839 It worked. But let me tell you so, let me be, 0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:52.799 let me be transparent. The reason the reason I'm sharing this. 0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:56.520 Is because I don't think the hip hop community understands 0:46:57.239 --> 0:46:59.799 a lot of the things that you know, I've been 0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:01.640 doing one in my career. I think that it's been 0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:03.680 kind of a mystery. And I never was a guy 0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:06.600 that like asked my publicists to get me in Forbes. 0:47:07.360 --> 0:47:10.040 I've never been the guy who really went out of 0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:13.279 his way to try to market myself as smart. And 0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:15.840 I just never did that because I came from all 0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:17.719 of a pure place of just wanting to rock the mic, 0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:19.360 you know, And it was never like I give you 0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:21.960 another thing, Like there was this whole rumor back in 0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:24.840 the days that ll cool J, you know, he's upset 0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:29.320 because he didn't become the president of Death Jam, which 0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:32.480 is can I can I just say something like I 0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:36.280 can't even describe to you how ultimately and utterly ridiculous 0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:38.160 that is. And let me explain to you why why 0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:41.240 would it look I wanted you to be there? 0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:43.800 Did Michael Jackson want to be the president of Motown? 0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:45.680 Like I ain't confronted. 0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:50.480 I don't relate to Michael. I didn't. I never wanted that. 0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:52.600 I wanted to make music, see but. 0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:56.320 I wanted to get a budget from you. 0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:05.440 Maybe the thing is I just always I just wanted 0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:08.480 to be an artist, nory, Like I'm not ashamed of 0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:10.279 being a rapper, like I don't. 0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:12.959 I don't need to. I don't need to convince you. 0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:15.640 That I'm more than a rapper, Like I'm okay with that. 0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:17.359 So when that's all I want to all I want 0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:19.279 to do is be a rapper and be the best rapper, Like. 0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:21.160 That's what I grew up going to do. So let 0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:22.239 me ask you something, right. 0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:28.200 Right, when you hear stories like Lil Wayne, right where 0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:31.480 Lil Wayne is getting maybe taken advantage of it, we 0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:32.239 don't really know. 0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:34.920 Ye we already do what we see. There's nothing, you 0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:36.080 know what, Let me tell you something. 0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:39.839 There's nothing that Lil Wayne did wrong, and I'll tell 0:48:39.840 --> 0:48:43.239 you why. I'll tell you why because, like I told you, 0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:45.480 I own my catalog and I tell you that ultimately 0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:47.400 I got a great deal. But you know what, if 0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:50.160 Russell was the worst person in the world, he could 0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:52.880 have easily taken advantage of me. He could have easily 0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:55.560 gave me one of those bozo deals that you hear 0:48:56.120 --> 0:48:56.799 nightmares about. 0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:58.560 But you know what, Russell wasn't that kind of guy. 0:48:58.960 --> 0:48:59.680 You know what I'm saying. 0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:02.520 I mean, you know, early on we did my publishing 0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:05.000 fifty fifty. Ultimately I got all my publishing back, of course, 0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:06.520 but early on it was like that. 0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:10.160 But even then with my first contract, he only went 0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:13.160 fifty to fifty. He didn't take it all. So so 0:49:13.640 --> 0:49:14.279 a lot of that. 0:49:14.360 --> 0:49:16.200 A lot of times when you hear about guys with 0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:19.279 bad deals, that says more about the executives that they 0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:21.480 were dealing with than the actual artists. 0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:24.799 It's not about them being dumb. It's not about them being. 0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:27.360 Dumb, because, you know what, some guys I give them credit, 0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:29.560 like some of the guys you know, like I told 0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:31.400 you I hung around a lot of street guys, but 0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:34.200 I wasn't. That's not who I was, right, I wasn't 0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:38.120 a hustling personally. Those were just my friends. But so 0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:41.360 some guys who are actually hustlers and hustlers and actually 0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:44.480 had that life, they get to benefit from all the 0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:47.480 experiences that they had hustling, so when they come into 0:49:47.480 --> 0:49:50.759 the game, they're able to make better deals earlier. But 0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:55.399 some of us, because we weren't hustlersm because we didn't experience. 0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:58.000 You know, getting cheated and screwed and scammed. We didn't. 0:49:58.040 --> 0:49:59.680 We were just innocent kids rapping. 0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:01.840 May have been from a rough community, but we were 0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:03.760 really just innocent kids who loved the rhyming. 0:50:04.280 --> 0:50:06.520 So when you go in and you sign your deal, 0:50:06.680 --> 0:50:08.399 it's not the greatest deal in the world because you're 0:50:08.440 --> 0:50:09.479 just excited to be there. 0:50:09.640 --> 0:50:13.040 Then you don't have that maturity and that grit and 0:50:13.080 --> 0:50:15.840 that you know, that grizzle that allows you to you know, 0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:18.360 make a better deal early. So some of these guys 0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:21.719 did benefit. There were benefits for some of them. Some benefited, 0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:24.840 some didn't. But I don't blame any of these younger artists. 0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:27.120 You know. Now, what I would say. 0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:30.160 Is that now with the Internet, because the Internet wasn't 0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:34.920 what it was, well, there's access to information. You have 0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:37.880 information out there, so you got to want the information. 0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:40.040 You got to want to make a great deal. Do 0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:42.000 you want to make a great deal? Are you patient? 0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:44.960 Do you have the bulls to say no? Because are 0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:45.960 you comfortable saying no? 0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:49.080 That was the crazy thing is when when def Jam 0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:53.560 we got theyself together, I asked them like, are you 0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:58.480 bringing back l And they never asked them my question. 0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:00.960 Well they do. But you know, to be to be 0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:05.920 fans of your death Jam is Leon Kevin Russell Simmons, 0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:07.319 I'm asking now what. 0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:08.279 It is is that you know? 0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:11.560 Look, you know, when you're young and you don't know 0:51:11.600 --> 0:51:14.640 how to play the political game, you rup you can 0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:15.360 rub people. 0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:15.920 The wrong way. 0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:20.960 Like you are the Death Jam, But you didn't rub 0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:21.600 nobody wrong. 0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:22.880 No, no, no, But you can't. 0:51:23.040 --> 0:51:26.759 Like what I'm saying basically is that man like you know, 0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:27.760 nobody's perfect. 0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:28.640 Man, I don't you know. 0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:32.080 I don't begrudge those guys nothing, because you know the 0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:35.520 resistance that I you know, you know, pressure makes diamonds, man, 0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:37.760 you know, it could bust pikes, but it makes diamonds. 0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:40.680 So the resistance that that I felt and the little 0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:43.040 things that they did just encouraged me to go out 0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:44.000 there and do something greater. 0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:45.319 You know what I'm saying. 0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:49.200 Oh, now, if I drink another bottle of rolls, you 0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:54.920 know we might fly to Queens. 0:51:56.800 --> 0:52:00.520 I'm gonna be honest, yo, I have never been a 0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:03.319 man more than I was the man when I had 0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:06.400 you come to my hood. Now, I had you listen 0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:09.440 this day. I had Cameron come to my hood. I 0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:11.799 had Jim Jones come to my hood. I had run 0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:14.360 DMC come to my hood. I had everybody come to 0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:18.600 my hood. But the one thing that everybody said was like, 0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:23.279 we're not going inside. L was the only person said 0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:24.280 I'm going inside. 0:52:24.560 --> 0:52:31.440 And I'm looking at you like you sure you said 0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:32.319 you said, I'm with you. 0:52:32.400 --> 0:52:38.000 I'm good people, But I still feel like you don't 0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:39.880 feel like you don't really realize. 0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:43.120 No, No, let me give you a promise because I 0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:43.839 have to do it. 0:52:44.640 --> 0:52:47.160 I still don't feel like you've realized how much that 0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:52.480 you meant to people in Queens. Now, if my partner's 0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:55.920 from Miami, he's born in la he might have a 0:52:55.960 --> 0:53:01.440 whole totally different thing. But for us in Queens, there 0:53:01.520 --> 0:53:05.120 was no other nigga that we wanted to be. I mean, nas, 0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:07.879 I mean, I remember one time me and Fat Joe 0:53:07.960 --> 0:53:11.120 we had an hour and a half conversation. 0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:14.840 Or who means more to him? L L to him 0:53:14.960 --> 0:53:17.840 or to me? That beautiful. 0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:20.200 That's the first time I felna fight. 0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:23.040 I said, Fat Joe, you can't claim l you from 0:53:23.040 --> 0:53:26.720 the Bronx last you gotta stop. 0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:33.360 I love Joe? Was like, what, I love Default. 0:53:33.480 --> 0:53:35.080 You don't love him as much as I love him, 0:53:35.520 --> 0:53:38.520 but Default and he just didn't like I'm talking about 0:53:38.520 --> 0:53:40.080 we seriously arguing. 0:53:40.360 --> 0:53:42.560 I felt that this argument happened six times. 0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:45.400 That's crazy and it's a blessing. 0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:45.600 Man. 0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:51.120 That's That's how real hit. This is what Drink Champs 0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:52.919 is about. I don't know if you know, L Drink 0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:56.719 Champions is about giving the stars flowers when they could 0:53:56.719 --> 0:54:00.399 smell them, and give them trees when they could inhale them. Yeah, 0:54:00.719 --> 0:54:06.440 because every other genre, every other music, when these people 0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:11.200 become icons of classics, they support them. Why doesn't hip 0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:12.720 hop have that platform? 0:54:13.080 --> 0:54:16.600 Well, you know, L yeah, you're doing this. You're doing it. 0:54:17.400 --> 0:54:20.959 You aren't doing it. God damn it. Five get smarter 0:54:21.000 --> 0:54:30.880 than me. You get smarter than me, don't you listen? 0:54:31.239 --> 0:54:33.879 L cool J can the Left Right City. And I'm 0:54:33.920 --> 0:54:34.600 gonna be honest. 0:54:34.920 --> 0:54:38.080 I was so embarrassed because I was like, I was like, yo, 0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:39.319 you know what you need to walk through? 0:54:39.640 --> 0:54:40.239 You walk through. 0:54:40.360 --> 0:54:44.160 I was like, I hope a crackheadn't pee and it. 0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:47.600 Was mad and I'm looking at him. I'm like, this 0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:53.920 niggas gonna leave. Well he didn't smell the. 0:54:53.960 --> 0:55:02.360 P he didn't see the being that I don't know. 0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:11.240 But not only that, you not only filmed the video, 0:55:11.719 --> 0:55:16.080 you actually came and chilled and compones Van Fantastic and 0:55:16.120 --> 0:55:19.800 we started watching I remember, and you actually like people 0:55:19.840 --> 0:55:23.120 got to really understand how cool because you know why 0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:27.000 we put you on a pedestal in Queens and we 0:55:27.040 --> 0:55:30.239 should you deserve that pedestal and you should stay in 0:55:30.239 --> 0:55:34.320 that pedestal. But at the same time, people should understand 0:55:34.480 --> 0:55:37.759 how cool you are, how down the earth you are, 0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:40.600 how how you you'll say anybody you. 0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:42.480 Know what, man, even no matter what I'm doing in 0:55:42.480 --> 0:55:44.480 my life, you know, I always tell people, you know, 0:55:44.520 --> 0:55:46.520 I'm in Hollywood, but I never went Hollywood. 0:55:46.960 --> 0:55:50.080 You know what I'm saying. And you know, keep talking 0:55:52.200 --> 0:56:01.319 like what happened? You take the cameras he's taking. Yeah, 0:56:01.360 --> 0:56:04.239 I talked to so you know that was the thing. 0:56:04.360 --> 0:56:09.080 You know, this is a funny moment, right man, But 0:56:09.200 --> 0:56:10.600 you know that was the thing. You know, that was 0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:12.840 the thing for you. You know what I'm saying. Whatever 0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:15.239 happened to cut creator? Man, See, I'm gonna take the 0:56:15.320 --> 0:56:18.960 DJ opportunity. Yeah, No, Jay J. Phil Potter is my man. 0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:19.720 You know what I'm saying. 0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:23.040 We just I just felt like creatively, I wanted to 0:56:23.120 --> 0:56:25.480 stretch a little bit and try some new things. But 0:56:25.520 --> 0:56:27.400 that he's always my friend. He's still my friend. We 0:56:27.440 --> 0:56:31.440 speak and he does like Tom Joyner, he does. 0:56:31.320 --> 0:56:33.520 Different cruise, he does different parties. 0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:35.359 You know what I'm saying. He's work, Yeah, yeah, he's 0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:36.279 still working. You know. 0:56:36.360 --> 0:56:38.319 But I've been using z trip you know what I mean. 0:56:38.320 --> 0:56:40.239 And Z Trip have been you know, DJ Z Trip 0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:41.319 has been DJing for me for. 0:56:42.080 --> 0:56:51.520 Damn featuring the toilet Man. That was crazy. Remind me 0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:56.680 the five heart beats or some ship toilet flushing and 0:56:56.680 --> 0:56:56.920 all that. 0:57:02.320 --> 0:57:04.880 But now he's good. I'm with z Trip for about 0:57:04.960 --> 0:57:08.600 almost ten years. Yeah, yeah, that's my man. Now I'm 0:57:08.600 --> 0:57:09.800 saying that's been like a vibe. 0:57:10.200 --> 0:57:13.240 Listen, I'm gonna be honest. When you walk through my hood. 0:57:13.320 --> 0:57:15.080 This guy went to hop and come right back on 0:57:15.120 --> 0:57:18.240 it like that's what you do. That's that's how it happens. 0:57:19.880 --> 0:57:21.840 But I'm not gonna lie. 0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:25.680 I wish my nephew was here. 0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:35.000 You got to relax. I was talking about you in theory. 0:57:36.120 --> 0:57:39.920 That's my naw. Look here yo, here ya holdie. In 0:57:39.960 --> 0:57:42.200 the video, I was talking about you in theory. I 0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:45.400 didn't know it was. Yeah, but it meant so much 0:57:45.440 --> 0:57:46.680 to our hood. It meant so much of. 0:57:46.720 --> 0:57:50.840 Our neighborhood when you came out. Because we've been to Farmers. 0:57:51.040 --> 0:57:54.120 We understand what Farmers is, the red block, the red, 0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:58.880 black and green rock. How crazy Farmers Boulevard is like 0:57:59.000 --> 0:58:01.560 from back then. See, a lot of people aren't like 0:58:01.640 --> 0:58:07.120 Farmers is almost gentified now almost a little bit. 0:58:08.360 --> 0:58:13.600 You got old fools. You gotta hold listen. No, no, 0:58:13.680 --> 0:58:14.680 they still got to you know. 0:58:15.000 --> 0:58:18.640 Nah, hell no, they might have old fools over there, 0:58:18.640 --> 0:58:21.040 but it ain't. It ain't gentrified once you got a 0:58:21.040 --> 0:58:23.480 old fools. I don't think it's a whole fools over there. 0:58:23.880 --> 0:58:27.479 I feel like you gotta juice ball once, you gotta 0:58:27.520 --> 0:58:28.680 juice balls over. 0:58:29.040 --> 0:58:30.320 Not that Jamaican's is running it. 0:58:30.400 --> 0:58:30.640 That was. 0:58:32.360 --> 0:58:41.600 Jamaican fruits and juices. That's a dreads now, queasy. Now, 0:58:41.720 --> 0:58:44.160 Farmers ain't gentrified. But you know it's a beautiful community. 0:58:44.560 --> 0:58:46.320 It may not people may have may not have a 0:58:46.320 --> 0:58:48.520 lot of a lot of money, but they got a 0:58:48.520 --> 0:58:50.600 lot of dignity and they want to you know, they 0:58:50.600 --> 0:58:52.880 want to make something better for their families and they 0:58:52.880 --> 0:58:54.160 want to have a life, you know what I'm saying. 0:58:54.160 --> 0:58:55.600 And that you got a melting pot of people. 0:58:55.600 --> 0:58:58.560 You got Haitians, you got Jamaicans, you got Dominicans, you 0:58:58.640 --> 0:59:01.240 got you know, people you know from all different you know, 0:59:02.200 --> 0:59:04.120 just like all in that community. 0:59:04.160 --> 0:59:06.640 It's a beautiful. I think it's a beautiful place. You know. Well, 0:59:06.680 --> 0:59:09.800 my friend Steph, Steph is from Farmers, right. 0:59:09.880 --> 0:59:12.360 Okay, can we ask him if there's a whole Foods 0:59:12.360 --> 0:59:13.560 because I'm really not sure. 0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:16.600 No, he's crazy, he's taking mad. I can't even talk. 0:59:17.640 --> 0:59:22.480 But I love him. I went to I. 0:59:22.440 --> 0:59:27.960 Went to my people was like, oh my god, why 0:59:28.000 --> 0:59:28.680 are you going there? 0:59:29.000 --> 0:59:31.400 But Stepp is from Farmers Boulevard. So I used to 0:59:31.400 --> 0:59:33.280 go to Farmers Boulevard. I used to sit on the rock, 0:59:33.640 --> 0:59:36.400 the black I just sit on it as a chat 0:59:36.720 --> 0:59:38.720 Oh that's crazy as a chad. But this then then 0:59:38.800 --> 0:59:40.360 you came out and I was like, oh my god, 0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:41.120 I got killed. 0:59:42.080 --> 0:59:45.000 Yeah, that area now it's you know that area has 0:59:45.040 --> 0:59:50.400 been some it's definitely it's like all any other. No, no, no, 0:59:51.320 --> 0:59:52.000 that's what we're doing. 0:59:56.040 --> 1:00:01.880 Want one shot, you know? He said to me shots 1:00:01.880 --> 1:00:04.479 would listen? I would you take care? Fifty took ninety 1:00:04.480 --> 1:00:07.000 he took more than that. How many cel city actually 1:00:07.000 --> 1:00:08.720 take one of or the five? Five? Okay? 1:00:08.800 --> 1:00:10.280 He taking one? 1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:19.600 Fifty took five shots? Is crazy? Fifty seves at the ball? 1:00:19.640 --> 1:00:25.720 How many shot city takes me? Thank you out man? 1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:29.280 Now fell together the way you wanted to hear, Big 1:00:29.320 --> 1:00:31.600 you up, because he got big up to fifth. That's 1:00:31.600 --> 1:00:32.440 my man. That's my man. 1:00:32.640 --> 1:00:34.960 But I don't drink though, I don't drink like that. 1:00:35.040 --> 1:00:35.200 Now. 1:00:35.200 --> 1:00:38.000 I drink occasionally, but now I don't drink like that occasions. 1:00:38.000 --> 1:00:41.200 What you like, he's drink Champs. I'm in a podcast 1:00:41.240 --> 1:00:43.320 called drink Champs. How can I sit here and drink? 1:00:43.800 --> 1:00:47.160 I'm good. I'm gonna city and drink all right, you 1:00:47.200 --> 1:00:48.840 know what I mean? Let met some more champagne. You 1:00:48.840 --> 1:00:50.400 want to good, I'm good. You got to take a 1:00:50.400 --> 1:00:51.000 shot this more. 1:00:51.200 --> 1:00:55.479 Already we had to pay a presson talking God drink 1:00:56.240 --> 1:00:56.800 the house. 1:01:05.280 --> 1:01:10.280 We had carrossid we had had a million. Carros had 1:01:10.320 --> 1:01:13.480 a million times. I can't lie had a million. 1:01:15.760 --> 1:01:18.320 Let's go back to cannabis because I just want to. 1:01:19.080 --> 1:01:20.720 I just want you to. I just want you to 1:01:20.800 --> 1:01:24.280 understand how you destroyed a man's career. 1:01:24.960 --> 1:01:29.320 But it was dope. I mean, but he can't eat. 1:01:29.360 --> 1:01:31.360 I brought him out at the Barclay Center when I 1:01:31.360 --> 1:01:31.720 did the. 1:01:31.680 --> 1:01:35.400 Concert, and yeah, but he's already broke. But put my 1:01:35.440 --> 1:01:36.960 mom around him and brought him out there. 1:01:38.200 --> 1:01:40.360 I did. 1:01:40.520 --> 1:01:41.560 I feel like it was too late. 1:01:42.800 --> 1:01:46.560 You crushed him, too late, too late. Baby. 1:01:46.680 --> 1:01:49.200 But in your mind, in your mind, you said, I 1:01:49.200 --> 1:01:50.479 gotta crush this little nigga. 1:01:50.560 --> 1:01:51.480 But why did you do that? 1:01:51.520 --> 1:01:53.600 Because you know why, I was defending myself because he 1:01:53.680 --> 1:01:56.120 was he was he was like computer literate at this 1:01:56.240 --> 1:01:58.920 time when nobody else he was the only nigga writ 1:01:58.960 --> 1:02:01.600 in rhymes on a computer and I had a session 1:02:01.600 --> 1:02:05.200 with him. I said, what is he doing? He wrote 1:02:05.280 --> 1:02:08.560 up round Gonna Caele. I didn't like it personally, but 1:02:08.920 --> 1:02:10.000 you you acted on that. 1:02:10.720 --> 1:02:13.040 Yeah, you ain't like it. 1:02:14.040 --> 1:02:14.400 I'm not. 1:02:15.840 --> 1:02:23.880 How far form being petty? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 1:02:23.920 --> 1:02:26.360 I got some petty pills. I take a petty pill 1:02:26.360 --> 1:02:29.280 every now and take petty pill. You take a petty 1:02:29.280 --> 1:02:30.920 pill every now and take a petty pill every day, 1:02:31.160 --> 1:02:31.600 not every day. 1:02:31.600 --> 1:02:34.480 I don't take it every day, you know, I try 1:02:34.520 --> 1:02:36.840 to do my you know, they go, they go low, 1:02:36.920 --> 1:02:37.040 I go. 1:02:37.120 --> 1:02:39.360 I'm gonna send lady in the petty bills, the petty 1:02:39.360 --> 1:02:41.760 pills just in case. It's definitely a little you go 1:02:41.840 --> 1:02:42.959 out with that. I'm gonna. 1:02:43.720 --> 1:02:47.880 I'm gonna do it to Claudy behind because. 1:02:47.720 --> 1:02:49.280 I wish, I wish hold me the best though. You know, 1:02:49.320 --> 1:02:50.560 I don't want to see anybody have. 1:02:52.080 --> 1:02:54.439 What I'm saying, because you know, some people they don't 1:02:54.480 --> 1:02:56.920 understand that when you crush a person's career like you 1:02:57.040 --> 1:02:58.440 actually crushed their life. 1:02:58.920 --> 1:03:00.320 Do you are you ever like? 1:03:00.480 --> 1:03:02.840 Because you know, Cood has never had a hit record 1:03:02.880 --> 1:03:04.360 since you you slaughtered him. 1:03:06.560 --> 1:03:12.920 Why why? Why? Why? Why? He never had a hit 1:03:12.960 --> 1:03:13.960 record after you dissed them. 1:03:14.000 --> 1:03:21.480 I'm just throwing that's awful. 1:03:22.800 --> 1:03:27.640 You know, man, listen, man about his decisions. You got 1:03:27.640 --> 1:03:31.000 to make your own decisions. He got to make decisions decisions. 1:03:31.040 --> 1:03:32.760 You know, you get you know, you get to the crossroads. 1:03:32.760 --> 1:03:33.880 You got to pick right or left? 1:03:34.080 --> 1:03:36.480 O you crush these people career? Can you say something 1:03:36.640 --> 1:03:37.919 nice for them? 1:03:38.440 --> 1:03:38.800 No? 1:03:38.720 --> 1:03:39.000 No, not. 1:03:41.080 --> 1:03:44.680 Nice, but say something the reason why? Because why did 1:03:44.680 --> 1:03:45.240 I do what I did? 1:03:45.360 --> 1:03:47.200 Because very simple. 1:03:47.440 --> 1:03:50.880 Please, I'm making me I make it very easy for you. 1:03:50.960 --> 1:03:53.280 My thing is this, you know, this was my feeling. 1:03:53.720 --> 1:03:56.080 My feeling is you know, I have a fan base. 1:03:56.720 --> 1:03:58.520 I have people that you know, look to me and 1:03:58.600 --> 1:04:01.320 enjoy my music and celebrate my art. If you come 1:04:01.320 --> 1:04:03.800 out talking about, you know, me in the foul way 1:04:03.880 --> 1:04:06.800 and trying to undermine me, you're trying to get in 1:04:06.840 --> 1:04:08.720 my pocket and you stepping on my toes and you're 1:04:08.720 --> 1:04:10.360 in the way, and I got to get you out 1:04:10.360 --> 1:04:11.440 of the way immediately. 1:04:12.200 --> 1:04:13.520 That that was my thinking on it. 1:04:13.560 --> 1:04:20.240 And Mama said, not you out at a minimum? 1:04:17.280 --> 1:04:26.880 A minimum listen, listen, Oh God, could be your story. 1:04:26.960 --> 1:04:28.360 I'm that was That was it. 1:04:28.440 --> 1:04:31.400 That was it, and and and but Cannabis. I just 1:04:31.440 --> 1:04:37.720 felt like no, because you know what, I noticed my 1:04:37.800 --> 1:04:40.600 nephew that relax. 1:04:40.680 --> 1:04:41.560 Why you tapping me? 1:04:41.600 --> 1:04:45.040 I want to ask him sound, ask him sounds to 1:04:45.360 --> 1:04:47.200 fight itself with Jamie Fox, Like. 1:04:48.720 --> 1:04:55.000 Any given Sunday, I've seen that. I seen that movie yesterday. 1:04:55.400 --> 1:04:56.080 I don't know why. 1:04:56.160 --> 1:05:00.959 This is why God is good time. I'm I can't 1:05:01.000 --> 1:05:05.400 sleep because you know what, I still listen, Petty. 1:05:05.160 --> 1:05:12.400 Pills, just keep you up. I can't Petty, I can't sleep. 1:05:19.400 --> 1:05:21.400 Let me tell you listen. 1:05:21.440 --> 1:05:24.160 Whenever I interview an artist, I want to give them 1:05:24.160 --> 1:05:27.400 the most respect ever, because because hip hop should be 1:05:27.440 --> 1:05:30.080 a celebration. And I sat down with Leo Combs the 1:05:30.080 --> 1:05:32.800 other day and he said, the reason why you're winning. 1:05:35.520 --> 1:05:40.480 Because sibration this is going to be. 1:05:40.520 --> 1:05:43.720 You are actually celebrating it. It's a world. 1:05:45.040 --> 1:05:49.040 Don't look at I'm looking right and then and again 1:05:49.080 --> 1:05:51.600 it's Sunday is on my TV. So I look at 1:05:51.640 --> 1:05:53.800 it and in mind you, I forgot I had did 1:05:53.880 --> 1:05:55.040 like two or three songs for it. 1:05:55.120 --> 1:05:56.120 So I'm like, oh, my Visitior. 1:05:59.560 --> 1:06:03.720 But then I'm looking and I'm like damn. And then 1:06:03.800 --> 1:06:09.360 when you and Jamie Fox actually interacted and me hearing 1:06:09.440 --> 1:06:12.880 the rumors, I'm actually looking at it like. 1:06:12.960 --> 1:06:19.880 This is great cinema. This is a really great cinema, 1:06:20.080 --> 1:06:22.880 Like this is actually now I'll tell you what happened, 1:06:23.520 --> 1:06:25.640 tell us what happened. We don't know what really happened. 1:06:25.640 --> 1:06:25.840 You know. 1:06:25.880 --> 1:06:29.680 The real story is that I am you know, when 1:06:29.680 --> 1:06:33.680 we were doing the scene, you know, I think you know, Jamie, 1:06:33.720 --> 1:06:36.240 although he was experienced to someone, he was still a 1:06:36.240 --> 1:06:38.440 little green. I wasn't quite as green, but I was 1:06:38.480 --> 1:06:43.280 green too, and you know, you know, meaning inexperience, you 1:06:43.280 --> 1:06:46.160 know what I'm saying. So we were doing the scene, 1:06:46.200 --> 1:06:47.560 I was being aggressive and I was like, yo, you 1:06:47.600 --> 1:06:49.560 got but this is character to character. 1:06:49.720 --> 1:06:50.600 I'm like, yo, you gotta. 1:06:50.760 --> 1:06:53.760 You know what I'm seeing that we're talking about. 1:06:56.040 --> 1:06:57.880 What he did something like that. I did a huddle 1:06:58.600 --> 1:06:59.960 and I'm like, yo, you gotta. And I'm slack. 1:07:00.080 --> 1:07:02.040 But his shoulders and this and that and you know, 1:07:02.960 --> 1:07:06.280 but yeah, okay, but he's got equipment on it. It's 1:07:06.320 --> 1:07:11.480 not like, you know, we're not in the pool. You know, 1:07:11.760 --> 1:07:14.160 he's got a quickment on you know, yo, yo yo. 1:07:14.400 --> 1:07:16.920 So he got upset and he's like, yo, you know, 1:07:17.080 --> 1:07:20.120 it's not being so rough with me. So I was like, 1:07:20.920 --> 1:07:22.600 you know, that didn't compute. 1:07:23.360 --> 1:07:24.919 So we came. 1:07:27.360 --> 1:07:30.240 So we did another take and I was rough with 1:07:30.360 --> 1:07:33.840 him again. And then you know, I don't know why, 1:07:33.880 --> 1:07:36.000 but you know, he thought it was a good idea 1:07:36.000 --> 1:07:36.960 to puns me in my face. 1:07:38.160 --> 1:07:41.240 Not in the script. No, it wasn't the script. No, 1:07:41.440 --> 1:07:44.840 this wasn't scripted. No, no, no, you're not keeping the honey 1:07:44.880 --> 1:07:46.680 with you. You want me to keep it, honey, keep 1:07:46.680 --> 1:07:48.760 it honey. He punched me. He pushed me in my face. 1:07:49.520 --> 1:07:51.280 So I looked at him. After he pussed me my face, 1:07:51.320 --> 1:07:54.760 I said, what do you do that? You looked that up? Yeah, 1:07:55.240 --> 1:07:56.840 pushed me in the face and looked at him. I said, 1:07:56.880 --> 1:08:02.720 I would you know what I said, I feel like 1:08:03.280 --> 1:08:08.800 like that. I said it like that. I could not quite. 1:08:08.840 --> 1:08:13.120 I looked I was a little tight. I was tight. 1:08:13.360 --> 1:08:15.200 You know, I was giving him tight. I was tight. 1:08:15.280 --> 1:08:17.840 I was giving him I'm like, looked at him. I said, 1:08:17.880 --> 1:08:18.400 what'd you do that? 1:08:18.920 --> 1:08:22.200 He said, look and he like was turned to the side. 1:08:22.720 --> 1:08:24.720 He had his helmet on. He had his helmet on, 1:08:24.800 --> 1:08:25.360 he was turned. 1:08:25.200 --> 1:08:28.599 To the side. He said, I told you before, don't 1:08:28.640 --> 1:08:30.400 put your hands on me period. 1:08:34.080 --> 1:08:39.280 So yo. 1:08:39.439 --> 1:08:43.120 When he said that, my left hand grabbed a face 1:08:43.280 --> 1:08:45.280 mask and as I was pulling this helmet. 1:08:45.040 --> 1:08:46.240 Off, my right hand was. 1:08:46.240 --> 1:08:52.000 Punching his ship, you know, like you know what I'm saying, queen. 1:08:52.200 --> 1:08:54.680 And then you know, he was laying there and I 1:08:54.880 --> 1:09:00.880 was like, I thought he's faking because he was sleep. No, 1:09:01.080 --> 1:09:03.559 that's not what they Then the whole team jumped on. 1:09:03.680 --> 1:09:06.600 Me, right, so they wrestled me down, you know, the 1:09:06.640 --> 1:09:10.160 whole team bring it up. 1:09:10.479 --> 1:09:12.760 So so so I'm under the huddle and I'm like yeah, yeah, 1:09:12.840 --> 1:09:16.400 and then somebody tries to reach in and like give 1:09:16.439 --> 1:09:19.040 me a little eye gall did that right? So oh 1:09:19.120 --> 1:09:21.080 yeah that was but not a good idea because I 1:09:21.200 --> 1:09:24.840 turned my head to the side and went he caught 1:09:24.880 --> 1:09:25.400 his head and. 1:09:29.960 --> 1:09:32.680 I just like, that's the three with the whole m 1:09:32.800 --> 1:09:35.439 m A thing. Yeah, you're gonna give me a leg lock. 1:09:35.479 --> 1:09:38.519 I'm biting you a sophagishole like all that leg locks it. 1:09:38.680 --> 1:09:40.160 I'm gonna bite your throat off me. 1:09:40.560 --> 1:09:40.880 Like we go. 1:09:41.080 --> 1:09:43.040 We got to get it in like this ain't the 1:09:43.240 --> 1:09:48.320 rules is out her to the side and he pulled his. 1:09:48.400 --> 1:09:50.280 Hand out the thing and then they finally broke it 1:09:50.400 --> 1:09:54.120 up and then and then, but but since then, me 1:09:54.120 --> 1:09:55.160 and Jamie got cool and we. 1:09:55.280 --> 1:09:57.439 Haven't laughed about it. I heard we have laughed about it. 1:09:57.520 --> 1:10:00.120 We made songs together like cool. So I don't I'm 1:10:00.120 --> 1:10:02.240 not telling the story now, but you know what it is. 1:10:02.360 --> 1:10:05.200 It's just you know, but you know, Oliver's crazy, Oliver Stone. 1:10:05.240 --> 1:10:07.760 He had Yeah, he was the dressed action the guy 1:10:07.920 --> 1:10:12.559 that's actually the sports announcer and given he's actually yes, 1:10:12.680 --> 1:10:15.160 that's in there and I'm leaving, he's. 1:10:15.040 --> 1:10:20.080 Like, he's who wrote scarf fake face so tune. You know, 1:10:21.280 --> 1:10:23.880 he's amazing. So you know, it was just a funny time, 1:10:23.920 --> 1:10:24.479 you know what I'm saying. 1:10:24.520 --> 1:10:25.840 But you know that was the thing. 1:10:25.920 --> 1:10:27.920 You know, It's just you know, Jamie, you know, he 1:10:28.120 --> 1:10:30.000 just got off, you know, he was he was on 1:10:30.120 --> 1:10:32.040 this Willie Beamon and I couldn't take it and all that. 1:10:32.160 --> 1:10:35.240 But like, you know, you know, you know, you know, 1:10:35.360 --> 1:10:37.840 and under the right circumstances, you might let a punch slot. 1:10:38.320 --> 1:10:38.639 You might. 1:10:39.240 --> 1:10:41.880 I mean, you know it's not impossible. Now, everybody's not 1:10:41.960 --> 1:10:43.519 a straight murderer all the time. 1:10:43.720 --> 1:10:44.240 Dude hits you. 1:10:44.479 --> 1:10:46.559 Under the right circumstances, you be like if you would 1:10:46.560 --> 1:10:48.960 have said to me like, you know, you know, I 1:10:49.160 --> 1:10:50.920 just and I'd have been like, you know, I don't 1:10:50.920 --> 1:10:51.840 even know if I could have took it. 1:10:51.880 --> 1:10:55.640 Then I take that back. I could have took it, 1:10:55.960 --> 1:10:56.600 I couldn't take I. 1:10:56.560 --> 1:10:58.320 Couldn't handle that ship because you didn't handle it. 1:10:58.560 --> 1:11:01.080 You drove me as saying I would have been waking 1:11:01.160 --> 1:11:02.560 up in the middle of the night just like you 1:11:02.640 --> 1:11:04.200 played me like I just couldn't take it. 1:11:04.680 --> 1:11:05.559 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:11:06.200 --> 1:11:08.640 So because you even beat niggas up who broke in 1:11:08.720 --> 1:11:10.320 your house, the niggas that broke in your house, you 1:11:10.400 --> 1:11:10.880 pounded them out. 1:11:10.960 --> 1:11:12.559 Yeah, I don't want to That's that's a rough one 1:11:12.920 --> 1:11:15.040 because the difference with that is that that wasn't funny 1:11:15.280 --> 1:11:16.439 because I was terrified. 1:11:16.960 --> 1:11:18.200 Oh world, will of course. 1:11:18.280 --> 1:11:20.960 I mean, listen, man, if it's one in the morning, 1:11:21.479 --> 1:11:22.840 you know, and you come down. 1:11:22.680 --> 1:11:24.599 From this is Kelly, why I gotta show you your 1:11:24.640 --> 1:11:25.759 segues on the questions. 1:11:25.800 --> 1:11:29.040 You're very smooth and it's very expective. It's a very 1:11:29.200 --> 1:11:31.599 smooth and subtle. It's a nice thing. 1:11:31.680 --> 1:11:33.639 You do it because you hook a scene, you get 1:11:33.840 --> 1:11:36.479 nice your baby, you set it up, you see it 1:11:36.640 --> 1:11:38.559 up and the next thing you know we're gonna talking. 1:11:38.600 --> 1:11:43.360 It's money, Kelly. That's good. That's good. That's good. Attorney, 1:11:43.560 --> 1:11:46.080 that's good. That's good. That's good. 1:11:46.840 --> 1:11:48.360 That is good to me. 1:12:00.840 --> 1:12:05.360 I'm so sorry, very smooth, I'm so sorry. It was amazing, 1:12:05.520 --> 1:12:08.360 Like it was like it was wonderful to watch, you know, 1:12:11.360 --> 1:12:14.760 that was that was crazy at me too. 1:12:18.200 --> 1:12:20.400 But now when the dude broke in my house, the 1:12:20.439 --> 1:12:23.040 difference is that, you know, I had fights growing up, 1:12:23.080 --> 1:12:24.680 and we've all all of us. I'm sure everybody in 1:12:24.680 --> 1:12:26.519 this room had fights in the hood and different things, 1:12:26.560 --> 1:12:29.280 you scraps or whatever, But but how many of us 1:12:29.320 --> 1:12:30.360 have really for our lives. 1:12:30.400 --> 1:12:32.880 Maybe dudes in jail you might get that feeling. You know, 1:12:33.000 --> 1:12:34.880 you did a big you feel like you're fighting for 1:12:34.960 --> 1:12:36.280 your life, fighting. 1:12:36.040 --> 1:12:39.559 For your life, doesn't it's not the same funny feeling 1:12:39.720 --> 1:12:41.760 like fighting like in the whole just. 1:12:41.800 --> 1:12:43.400 You know, let's get it, let's get it. 1:12:43.720 --> 1:12:43.880 You know. 1:12:44.040 --> 1:12:47.120 I'm like, you know, I'm like, I'm really scary anything. 1:12:47.280 --> 1:12:49.800 This is a for keeps. You know, I'm gonna get 1:12:49.880 --> 1:12:52.160 it in like whatever. Only read it on TM. 1:12:52.400 --> 1:12:54.880 Yeah, it was idea And so it was one in 1:12:54.920 --> 1:12:58.200 the morning, and uh, you know, the the alarm pad 1:12:58.479 --> 1:13:00.679 went off, but it's you know, how you have an alarm, 1:13:00.760 --> 1:13:03.960 and like for those of who have an alarm, it'll 1:13:03.960 --> 1:13:06.040 give you a minute to put your colt in, it'll 1:13:06.080 --> 1:13:08.559 go and you have to turn your alarm off. Well 1:13:08.640 --> 1:13:10.960 mine just went, and so I went to the keypad 1:13:11.360 --> 1:13:13.840 some on sleep and I'm looking at the keypad. I'm like, 1:13:15.880 --> 1:13:18.280 family room. And she said family room, wasn't it. 1:13:18.360 --> 1:13:21.160 And so I'm thinking, you mean when telling you. 1:13:23.200 --> 1:13:25.679 With a default is the default? 1:13:25.800 --> 1:13:28.840 I think that's the word. So you know, you know, 1:13:28.920 --> 1:13:31.120 I'm in my draws this one in the morning, so 1:13:31.200 --> 1:13:32.720 I just say, you know what I'm thinking. It's like 1:13:32.800 --> 1:13:34.960 my daughter sneaking in, you know, I don't know she 1:13:35.080 --> 1:13:38.080 come in. And with that, I'm like, oh, don yeah, 1:13:38.160 --> 1:13:38.840 me go down here. 1:13:38.720 --> 1:13:42.920 And see what's happening. So I'm just walking downstairs my draws. 1:13:42.960 --> 1:13:46.120 I turned the alarm off, walk downstairs, come down, And 1:13:46.200 --> 1:13:48.599 when I was going towards the kitchen, he's coming out 1:13:48.640 --> 1:13:50.839 of the kitchen and then we face the face. 1:13:52.160 --> 1:13:54.200 And he's got all black on, he's got a. 1:13:54.240 --> 1:13:57.040 Big bag, he's got the man the lawn mant in 1:13:57.200 --> 1:14:00.120 big boots, you know, and he's looking. 1:13:59.880 --> 1:14:03.200 At hussy black. No, he's white. He's a white dude. 1:14:03.280 --> 1:14:05.760 Oh you you pounded him out. I mean, oh god, 1:14:06.360 --> 1:14:08.599 oh god, let's let's go there. Oh god, I mean, 1:14:09.240 --> 1:14:14.400 you know fine, like it was freaky. It was freaky. 1:14:14.439 --> 1:14:17.960 I think, you know, stupid mother, stupid mother, stupid mother, 1:14:18.479 --> 1:14:22.160 stupid mother, mother, stupid mother that you have, stupid mother, 1:14:22.280 --> 1:14:26.920 stupid everything you get, every stupid mother you get. 1:14:26.920 --> 1:14:28.599 Driver but everywhere. 1:14:29.280 --> 1:14:31.640 And I was like, you know, and then I you know, 1:14:31.680 --> 1:14:33.320 I got him down, and then it took the police 1:14:34.600 --> 1:14:36.240 about you skipped. 1:14:36.880 --> 1:14:40.479 You got him down. I don't want to, but we 1:14:41.800 --> 1:14:44.439 rock for a minute. And you hit him with that cross. 1:14:44.720 --> 1:14:46.680 And when you got your draws on, that's some real like, 1:14:47.600 --> 1:14:49.400 that's some real gorilla, like the grilla. 1:14:50.240 --> 1:14:52.760 I feel like you like for the old school dudes. 1:14:52.760 --> 1:14:56.760 I feel like penite. You know, my draws all the ship. 1:14:57.120 --> 1:15:01.599 You know, No, it's like melhe I'm swinging and rooting. 1:15:01.960 --> 1:15:05.200 It's like it's made so mund you walking downstairs. 1:15:05.240 --> 1:15:10.280 You don't you don't know, you think yo, yo, you 1:15:10.400 --> 1:15:12.200 and your draws everything. I don't care. 1:15:12.439 --> 1:15:14.240 You in your drawers in your house, going to get 1:15:14.320 --> 1:15:15.880 some juice, drinking out the juice. 1:15:15.880 --> 1:15:19.040 But that nobody knows you drink out of and the 1:15:19.120 --> 1:15:20.679 same one you gift all your guests. 1:15:26.960 --> 1:15:31.519 Nobody knows if you tear that. You know, you know, 1:15:33.200 --> 1:15:35.559 you know, And I just went down in their homes, 1:15:35.640 --> 1:15:37.600 came out of nowhere and it was just like, you know, 1:15:37.680 --> 1:15:38.240 it was tiring. 1:15:38.320 --> 1:15:41.600 He was like, I was like, and it's just you know, 1:15:41.680 --> 1:15:44.280 we just had the rock like now and then you know, 1:15:44.360 --> 1:15:46.400 and the pro I'll tell you the deepest thing though, 1:15:47.120 --> 1:15:49.760 you know, this is the part that's not fun even, 1:15:50.040 --> 1:15:52.400 is that there was a point when I had to 1:15:52.479 --> 1:15:56.439 decide whether or not he should stay alive. You and 1:15:56.560 --> 1:15:59.600 him know, when I had him some dude, because I 1:15:59.680 --> 1:16:01.719 didn't if he had anyone else with him. 1:16:01.920 --> 1:16:02.320 Some dude. 1:16:02.320 --> 1:16:04.719 When I had him, when I had control of the situation, 1:16:05.160 --> 1:16:07.080 when I had him on the ground, on his back, 1:16:07.479 --> 1:16:12.080 on his stomach, finished and you know, laying there, I 1:16:12.200 --> 1:16:14.320 had to make that decision because I didn't know if 1:16:14.960 --> 1:16:18.080 he had someone upstairs. You know, I didn't know if 1:16:18.080 --> 1:16:19.840 people were coming from so I had to think I 1:16:19.840 --> 1:16:23.080 didn't have rope available, like I'm not playing. 1:16:23.160 --> 1:16:26.120 Like you know, ll Max and. 1:16:27.640 --> 1:16:29.439 Rope around the house and just in case I have 1:16:29.560 --> 1:16:31.519 to tire up somebody, you know. 1:16:32.960 --> 1:16:35.160 So I'm like looking at the dude, and I had 1:16:35.200 --> 1:16:36.559 to make a decision, you. 1:16:36.600 --> 1:16:39.320 Know, you know, and I credit I credit someone because 1:16:39.320 --> 1:16:41.479 she's like just just just wait the gouds. 1:16:41.520 --> 1:16:43.320 She's calling the cops. She got on the nine one one. 1:16:43.640 --> 1:16:45.320 You know. I saw my daughter come down the steps 1:16:45.360 --> 1:16:48.840 and she's like, God's like with the with the drawers on. 1:16:48.920 --> 1:16:51.439 I'm like, this is freaky. And my youngest daughter slept 1:16:51.479 --> 1:16:55.200 through the whole thing. She had a playmate, she had 1:16:55.240 --> 1:16:57.519 a playmate or a play date, and she had you know, 1:16:57.680 --> 1:16:59.519 somebody over the house. They slept through the whole thing. 1:17:00.000 --> 1:17:02.840 And then her parents was the interesting thing. Her parents 1:17:02.920 --> 1:17:05.000 called the next like that morning when we woke up, 1:17:05.000 --> 1:17:05.719 there was like, oh. 1:17:05.960 --> 1:17:07.960 You know, yeah, yeah, she can stay. You know, it's 1:17:08.000 --> 1:17:10.360 no problem, Like is that my daughter? 1:17:10.520 --> 1:17:10.840 Like I'm just. 1:17:15.320 --> 1:17:18.519 Oh, just what I'm like, yo, they must be having 1:17:18.520 --> 1:17:20.880 a really good time whatever they're doing. They got some 1:17:21.000 --> 1:17:23.639 really big rings because. 1:17:25.120 --> 1:17:27.880 You know, so that was it because people were telling 1:17:27.960 --> 1:17:29.880 me you gotta leave and I gotta respect you because 1:17:29.920 --> 1:17:31.920 I really love you. But before we get up out 1:17:31.920 --> 1:17:33.800 of here, I need to know about. 1:17:35.320 --> 1:17:35.880 Raised down. 1:17:36.720 --> 1:17:39.439 She was raised represent queen. She was raised out brook 1:17:40.280 --> 1:17:42.160 represent Queen. She was raised out in Brooklyn. What about it? 1:17:43.360 --> 1:17:44.840 I just needed you to break that down. 1:17:45.479 --> 1:17:48.720 I represent Queen because Angie Martinez forever. I thought it 1:17:48.840 --> 1:17:58.080 was about her. They're serious not saying the record was 1:17:58.160 --> 1:18:02.240 about her. Oh I'm saying he represented that record. Okay, 1:18:06.400 --> 1:18:06.920 let me get. 1:18:11.920 --> 1:18:12.240 My first. 1:18:14.080 --> 1:18:14.720 What happened a lot? 1:18:16.360 --> 1:18:18.679 I didn't mean like that, but I mean like because 1:18:18.760 --> 1:18:21.320 she was oh yeah, yeah, no, no, it's just a record, 1:18:21.439 --> 1:18:24.680 like you know, that was it was what it was, 1:18:25.479 --> 1:18:26.439 you know, it was. 1:18:26.520 --> 1:18:29.200 It was funny because you know that was a beat 1:18:29.240 --> 1:18:31.840 that Rashard had let me hear. It's lights of blinking. 1:18:32.040 --> 1:18:33.600 Don't worry about it. Oh, I thought that was the 1:18:33.640 --> 1:18:40.040 real I just uh that beat. 1:18:40.439 --> 1:18:42.960 You know, Puffy actually had wanted that beat for Biggie, 1:18:43.960 --> 1:18:46.439 and you know he called me, I want my beat back, 1:18:47.280 --> 1:18:49.439 saying not so much. 1:18:55.320 --> 1:18:58.599 And nah, but you know, Puff my man and Big understood. 1:18:58.640 --> 1:19:01.000 You know what I'm saying, It was mine. It was 1:19:01.040 --> 1:19:01.479 what it was. 1:19:01.560 --> 1:19:03.360 It was just like you know, you know how producers 1:19:03.400 --> 1:19:06.120 they play everybody beats and Biggie you know, he really, 1:19:06.240 --> 1:19:08.880 you know, God bless him me recipeces and talented artists. 1:19:09.520 --> 1:19:11.439 He really had his heart set on that one, you know, 1:19:11.560 --> 1:19:13.439 but you know that's how it went. 1:19:14.960 --> 1:19:21.240 Who's your favorite producer? Producer? I'll getting a studio? What 1:19:22.600 --> 1:19:23.040 I mean, there's some. 1:19:23.080 --> 1:19:25.280 Amazing producers out there. Man, it would be I mean, 1:19:25.439 --> 1:19:29.519 give me one. I don't even want to. 1:19:29.520 --> 1:19:33.960 Say, man, give me two. I don't even want to say. 1:19:33.960 --> 1:19:36.200 But yo, it's some crazy producers. Give me a top 1:19:36.240 --> 1:19:38.960 three producers, some top three, top three? 1:19:39.040 --> 1:19:47.840 Okay, I think, uh I think Dre is serious. I agree. 1:19:47.960 --> 1:19:55.200 I think I think Timberland is serious. And uh I 1:19:55.280 --> 1:19:56.280 didn't expect that one. 1:20:00.280 --> 1:20:01.800 You know, it's been a while, but you know, Molly 1:20:01.920 --> 1:20:04.280 was really really serious, you know what I mean in 1:20:04.400 --> 1:20:06.519 Primo and Primo, you know, Promo serious. 1:20:06.760 --> 1:20:12.000 Really I really wanted you to say, Molly, ma I 1:20:12.160 --> 1:20:15.680 really I really do, like like yo, yo, listen man, 1:20:15.960 --> 1:20:17.280 you know I love all of these dudes. 1:20:17.320 --> 1:20:22.280 Man, my son, My son is scared to walk through yea, 1:20:22.360 --> 1:20:24.719 give them five, Give them five, yo. 1:20:24.760 --> 1:20:26.719 VI and you're a revolt. 1:20:26.800 --> 1:20:32.760 TV got that man, because this is because this is 1:20:32.840 --> 1:20:34.280 because you know, your people is telling me you got 1:20:34.360 --> 1:20:35.000 to go, and I. 1:20:35.000 --> 1:20:35.880 Gotta respect your people. 1:20:36.120 --> 1:20:38.519 Yeah yeah, so and you know what, because I respect 1:20:38.560 --> 1:20:41.800 you because if it wasn't for you. In a lot 1:20:41.840 --> 1:20:44.960 of ways, it wouldn't be mean. And I always respect 1:20:45.040 --> 1:20:48.519 I respect you too, but I have to ask because 1:20:48.600 --> 1:20:50.320 I feel like you brought this to hip hop. 1:20:51.600 --> 1:20:55.960 The go the greatest of all time. That phrase came 1:20:56.160 --> 1:20:59.280 from you know, I got it. 1:20:59.840 --> 1:21:02.080 I got it from a LEI. You know what I'm saying. 1:21:02.400 --> 1:21:04.200 We didn't know that from you know Ali. You know 1:21:04.200 --> 1:21:05.760 what we're saying, the greatest all time, But I made 1:21:05.760 --> 1:21:06.040 it to go. 1:21:06.479 --> 1:21:08.559 You know what I'm saying, creates a go all time. 1:21:09.640 --> 1:21:12.120 I think I probably have one of the greatest careers. 1:21:12.920 --> 1:21:13.080 You know. 1:21:13.200 --> 1:21:15.720 I think that on any given days, somebody can make 1:21:15.720 --> 1:21:21.560 a better song. But it's really about a career and 1:21:21.680 --> 1:21:23.320 it's about you. 1:21:23.600 --> 1:21:26.840 Yeah, you are the greatest all time. I feel like 1:21:29.760 --> 1:21:32.640 I feel like, you know a lot of times, a 1:21:32.680 --> 1:21:33.880 lot of times. You gotta remember that. 1:21:34.040 --> 1:21:34.200 You know. 1:21:34.640 --> 1:21:37.120 I don't know, you know, but if I got pop 1:21:37.240 --> 1:21:39.200 one Mama said knock you out, came out, maybe people 1:21:39.200 --> 1:21:40.200 would feel different about me. 1:21:40.760 --> 1:21:42.960 You gotta relax because you want that, you know, you 1:21:43.080 --> 1:21:43.840 want what I'm saying. 1:21:43.920 --> 1:21:47.479 I'm saying like if something had if I was you know, 1:21:47.640 --> 1:21:50.040 got shot or was finished out or got. 1:21:50.040 --> 1:21:52.600 Done, you got if somebody didn't, let's not wish that. No, 1:21:52.760 --> 1:21:54.519 I never I don't received that at all. 1:21:54.760 --> 1:21:56.360 God, No, I don't know where you're saying, like, oh 1:21:56.360 --> 1:21:58.519 if Rock Kim would have went away. What I'm basically 1:21:58.640 --> 1:22:03.839 saying is that that there is something magical that happens 1:22:04.680 --> 1:22:07.040 with great artists when they're not here. 1:22:07.400 --> 1:22:11.960 Yes, and they get you know, look at people grow 1:22:12.040 --> 1:22:13.000 to appreciate them. 1:22:13.080 --> 1:22:15.320 But it's magical happening with you right now while you 1:22:15.479 --> 1:22:16.360 being doing TV. 1:22:16.560 --> 1:22:19.599 I'm blessed magical. Just in case you're on the Lip 1:22:19.680 --> 1:22:23.400 Sinc Battle. We are all sitting based like everything's hip hop, 1:22:23.520 --> 1:22:24.519 all the moves I made. 1:22:26.360 --> 1:22:28.760 You have to be here, but but I. 1:22:28.800 --> 1:22:31.280 Wanted to be here because and you came here because 1:22:31.280 --> 1:22:33.840 you hip hop and you and you fucking hip hop. 1:22:33.960 --> 1:22:35.280 Thank you, thank you out. 1:22:35.320 --> 1:22:37.840 But I just want you to know that if you 1:22:38.040 --> 1:22:41.640 never heard it before, even though you brung this phrase. 1:22:41.360 --> 1:22:44.200 To hip hop, you are the greatest of all time. 1:22:44.280 --> 1:22:44.519 Thank you. 1:22:44.600 --> 1:22:47.760 I appreciate it. And what's what's really you? Alive? I am? 1:22:48.280 --> 1:22:49.519 I am, I'm truly I am. 1:22:49.760 --> 1:22:52.240 There's a lot of people say this all time recipes, 1:22:53.120 --> 1:22:55.479 that's true, that's true, recipes. 1:22:55.520 --> 1:23:01.160 I'd much rather be alive and debating it about that one. 1:23:01.280 --> 1:23:06.760 We say the greatest alling on. You know, we're saying 1:23:06.800 --> 1:23:15.800 the greatest on time this time, you know, Rome for 1:23:16.240 --> 1:23:20.600 this time. But listen, L, we really appreciate you, L. 1:23:20.800 --> 1:23:23.599 I know you gotta go. We know you're on a schedule. 1:23:23.760 --> 1:23:25.680 We understand everything you do. 1:23:25.920 --> 1:23:29.640 This is what we do, what our culture, our society. 1:23:30.439 --> 1:23:33.360 Excuse me, everybody up, there'll be quiet. Our society is 1:23:33.360 --> 1:23:36.200 about giving our legends flowers when they can smell them, 1:23:36.479 --> 1:23:38.720 and give them trees when they can hell them. And 1:23:39.040 --> 1:23:42.920 because you know why, our culture, when you get the 1:23:43.080 --> 1:23:45.000 thirty years, you get to forty years, you get to 1:23:45.080 --> 1:23:46.960 forty five or fifty years, they. 1:23:47.040 --> 1:23:47.720 Ride us off. 1:23:48.000 --> 1:23:52.200 But meanwhile Motley Crew was out there torring meanwhile fucking 1:23:52.920 --> 1:23:53.559 rolling stones. 1:23:53.600 --> 1:23:54.640 And I don't got no beef with them. 1:23:54.680 --> 1:23:59.479 I don't give them myself, but I want to continue 1:23:59.560 --> 1:24:01.160 to support our culture. 1:24:01.520 --> 1:24:05.400 And you know, also what would help that, I think is, 1:24:06.240 --> 1:24:09.880 you know, if the veteran artists make better decisions and 1:24:10.000 --> 1:24:14.280 if they value themselves. Because you know, I am humble, 1:24:14.320 --> 1:24:17.080 that's true, but I do know my value, no, and 1:24:17.120 --> 1:24:20.240 I understand who I am. I'm clear about that and 1:24:20.479 --> 1:24:22.400 you know, my business decisions and the moves that I 1:24:22.479 --> 1:24:26.240 may reflect that. Yes, and you know, you know, I 1:24:26.320 --> 1:24:28.280 think a lot of our artists that you know, they 1:24:28.360 --> 1:24:31.120 forget who they are and then you know, they think 1:24:31.160 --> 1:24:33.320 that it's about your last hot record. 1:24:33.600 --> 1:24:36.960 But it's not. It's more than that. It's more than 1:24:37.160 --> 1:24:37.960 just the head. 1:24:38.000 --> 1:24:41.800 It's not everybody be quiet because I ain't gonna lie. 1:24:41.920 --> 1:24:42.560 I need to hear it. 1:24:42.640 --> 1:24:45.760 You know, It's about your career. It's about you know, 1:24:46.000 --> 1:24:47.640 that's one of the things Russell taught me earlier. It's 1:24:47.640 --> 1:24:48.439 about having a career. 1:24:49.000 --> 1:24:49.160 You know. 1:24:49.280 --> 1:24:51.760 I could go out and play, you know, you know, 1:24:51.840 --> 1:24:54.760 and have fifty sixty seventy thousand people out there. I 1:24:54.840 --> 1:24:57.200 can go out there and you know, do festivals. I 1:24:57.240 --> 1:25:00.240 can go do different things. And I think that, you know, 1:25:00.320 --> 1:25:03.240 our veterans sometimes they forget that, they forget. 1:25:03.040 --> 1:25:03.479 Who they are. 1:25:03.560 --> 1:25:06.920 They get lost, they get discouraged because they make it 1:25:06.960 --> 1:25:07.679 about the radio. 1:25:08.400 --> 1:25:11.240 They make it about only fourteen year olds. They make 1:25:11.280 --> 1:25:12.280 it about but. 1:25:12.360 --> 1:25:13.559 You can't live it out your radio. 1:25:14.280 --> 1:25:21.280 Yeah, yeah, why I got a television now, you know, 1:25:27.880 --> 1:25:32.200 destroy me, you know, So I just you know, I 1:25:32.560 --> 1:25:34.559 just think we just have to know who we are. 1:25:35.080 --> 1:25:37.639 We got to believe in ourselves. You know, I wouldn't. 1:25:37.720 --> 1:25:39.519 What I would say to all the viewers is that 1:25:39.600 --> 1:25:42.000 you got to remember that dreams don't have deadlines. And 1:25:42.040 --> 1:25:44.080 you got to remember never to limit yourself. You know, 1:25:44.200 --> 1:25:47.000 Colonel Sanders started Kentucky Fried Chicken at sixty five years old. 1:25:47.680 --> 1:25:49.800 There are no limits on this thing. You can be 1:25:49.920 --> 1:25:52.920 successful as long as you want to be successful. You know, 1:25:53.240 --> 1:25:56.120 Michael Jackson had made Rest in Peace, had hot records, 1:25:56.280 --> 1:25:58.639 he had a Soul World tour coming. He was fifty 1:25:58.760 --> 1:26:01.960 years old when he passed. Don't under don't you know 1:26:03.280 --> 1:26:09.640 overestimate the gift of youth and underestimate the gift of experience. 1:26:10.439 --> 1:26:15.519 You know what I'm saying because you know, and like 1:26:15.600 --> 1:26:17.200 I say to all the artists out there, like there's 1:26:17.240 --> 1:26:19.080 a lot of a lot of people found out when 1:26:19.120 --> 1:26:21.959 they put their records on SoundCloud that is not as easy. 1:26:21.800 --> 1:26:25.040 To make hot ship as you thought. It was four views, 1:26:26.240 --> 1:26:28.400 you got them four or five views? How's that, Frie? 1:26:28.479 --> 1:26:31.320 How's that worthing for you? You know, remember when you 1:26:31.520 --> 1:26:34.000 remember when you were critiquing my album, but what you 1:26:34.120 --> 1:26:35.000 said was trash. 1:26:35.680 --> 1:26:37.679 You know, trash? 1:26:37.720 --> 1:26:41.639 Does it only wait gold? How do four views, feel 1:26:41.680 --> 1:26:46.000 like now you know what I mean? You know, you know, 1:26:47.160 --> 1:26:53.840 can you thetty gang me? Because you know, because like they. 1:26:53.800 --> 1:26:56.559 Threw the It's like if one thing I will say 1:26:56.600 --> 1:26:58.840 about hip hop is a funny to the sidebalk if 1:26:58.960 --> 1:27:00.720 hip hop was the NBA. It's like they took the 1:27:00.800 --> 1:27:03.920 ball and threw it to the stands. It's like the mic, 1:27:04.120 --> 1:27:06.120 like we just said, they just threw the audience in 1:27:06.200 --> 1:27:09.080 the crowd and say y'all do it. So now everybody's 1:27:09.479 --> 1:27:11.519 you know, because for every chance the rapper who is 1:27:11.560 --> 1:27:15.040 truly talented and amazes, for every one of them up, 1:27:15.080 --> 1:27:17.240 there's a thousand of them that didn't do it. So 1:27:17.360 --> 1:27:22.479 what am I saying? Basically, what I'm saying is there 1:27:22.600 --> 1:27:26.000 is some skill involved with this and it does take talent, 1:27:26.960 --> 1:27:29.200 and it isn't luck. We all need a little bit 1:27:29.280 --> 1:27:31.680 of luck sprinkled in our lives. But the guys who 1:27:31.720 --> 1:27:34.280 made it yourself, some of the other artists, you name 1:27:34.360 --> 1:27:35.880 some of these guys, your favorite. 1:27:35.640 --> 1:27:37.679 Rappers and artists, and they are talented. 1:27:39.360 --> 1:27:42.559 And you know, so what the Internet has showed us 1:27:42.680 --> 1:27:44.680 is it's given us the opportunity to find out that 1:27:44.880 --> 1:27:46.120 guess what rappers really are? 1:27:46.240 --> 1:27:46.639 Talented. 1:27:47.200 --> 1:27:50.280 These guys really have talent, they really are artists. Because 1:27:50.280 --> 1:27:54.960 if that wasn't true in everybody, we're beyond Yeah, there's 1:27:54.960 --> 1:27:56.880 a few hit what one hit one is here and there, 1:27:57.120 --> 1:28:00.720 But this thing takes talent, you know, So you know, 1:28:00.880 --> 1:28:02.720 I think that that's just something that and those old 1:28:02.760 --> 1:28:05.160 school guys out there, they need to just make better 1:28:05.200 --> 1:28:08.680 decisions and remember that they're talented and not be not 1:28:08.840 --> 1:28:13.480 be overwhelmed by this idea that you're obsolete and irrelevant. 1:28:13.600 --> 1:28:16.519 This is not You know, when you're thirty five years old, 1:28:16.560 --> 1:28:17.800 you don't need to keep going back. 1:28:17.720 --> 1:28:20.439 To your prom. You know, you don't have to live 1:28:20.560 --> 1:28:23.280 life like you're going back to the prom thirty nine exactly. 1:28:23.479 --> 1:28:27.599 I'll be forty this year, young young relative. I'm doing 1:28:27.640 --> 1:28:30.760 three parties LA, New York and Miami. I love it. 1:28:30.880 --> 1:28:32.120 Can I have your part of one of them? 1:28:32.320 --> 1:28:34.960 I don't know why in the I don't know what happened. 1:28:35.880 --> 1:28:39.240 I'm trying to, I mean, how you feel. 1:28:40.960 --> 1:28:42.600 Let me tell you, I mean, really look around at 1:28:42.640 --> 1:28:45.680 the life you've created, like like really look at this, 1:28:45.880 --> 1:28:47.160 like this is unbelievable. 1:28:50.479 --> 1:28:51.320 Let me tell you something. 1:28:52.080 --> 1:28:56.479 I love pon yo, listen, I'm gonna snuff him sooner 1:28:57.479 --> 1:28:58.719 because he told me he's. 1:28:58.560 --> 1:28:59.040 Supposed to be. 1:28:59.280 --> 1:29:01.599 Because let's said, listen, listen, I don't, I don't. 1:29:01.600 --> 1:29:06.559 I don't invite him to podcast. But when he hit 1:29:06.680 --> 1:29:10.640 me earlier, listen, you know I lie because I'm come 1:29:10.680 --> 1:29:14.880 from violator, So I lie to him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:29:17.600 --> 1:29:19.679 I know. Had you locked there in two thirty? 1:29:20.040 --> 1:29:21.519 But I told him, of. 1:29:21.560 --> 1:29:24.360 Course you did, because I come from Chris Lighty school. 1:29:24.520 --> 1:29:26.559 I know, tell you two hours. We can't. 1:29:26.640 --> 1:29:29.519 We can't fall asleep in the getaway cardo. You know, 1:29:29.600 --> 1:29:32.240 people fall asleep in the getaway cars, like take the 1:29:32.280 --> 1:29:33.800 bucket and check off the lap and get out the 1:29:33.840 --> 1:29:35.880 call place. It's like, you know, we gotta you gotta 1:29:35.880 --> 1:29:39.000 be on time. That's another thing. I'll be on need discipline, 1:29:39.600 --> 1:29:42.080 be on time. Can we teach the youth about being 1:29:42.120 --> 1:29:45.080 on time? Because let me tell you something just now. Recently, 1:29:46.840 --> 1:29:48.760 I've been, you know, doing what I gotta do. T 1:29:48.920 --> 1:29:50.960 le All hits me and Leo All goes. 1:29:51.360 --> 1:29:54.960 I need to meet you at the Polo lounge right 1:29:55.120 --> 1:30:02.200 this is in. I know it's loaded. His skin is 1:30:02.280 --> 1:30:05.160 already set. It's like he's already to meet you at 1:30:05.200 --> 1:30:08.400 the pull up I haven't believe it's like this. It's 1:30:08.479 --> 1:30:12.120 like me, Ali ran the actor. We set it all up, 1:30:12.200 --> 1:30:14.599 but me and Ali is only there. So we pulled 1:30:14.640 --> 1:30:16.240 up at seven forty five. 1:30:16.760 --> 1:30:20.040 Leo's already there, but he told us to meet it's 1:30:20.040 --> 1:30:22.760 at eight o'clock. But this is what I'm trying to 1:30:22.840 --> 1:30:27.360 tell young people is on he told me to meet 1:30:27.439 --> 1:30:28.400 him at eight o'clock. 1:30:29.080 --> 1:30:31.519 We pulled up at seven forty five and he was 1:30:31.560 --> 1:30:35.080 already ready. There you go. He's sitting there like this, 1:30:35.439 --> 1:30:39.720 let's go. And I'm like, holy shit because he had 1:30:39.760 --> 1:30:43.479 the best chair of the meeting and all that. You 1:30:43.560 --> 1:30:43.840 get the. 1:30:49.600 --> 1:30:49.880 Listen. 1:30:50.680 --> 1:30:54.040 So this is what I'm trying to tell young people. 1:30:55.479 --> 1:30:58.799 Is you're not supposed to show up at eight fifteen 1:30:58.960 --> 1:31:01.600 when it's eight o'clock. For me and people, show up 1:31:01.600 --> 1:31:05.080 at seven forty five and scope out the joint. 1:31:05.520 --> 1:31:07.800 And also I would also say this, I would say that, 1:31:08.600 --> 1:31:12.000 you know, the cockiness is great for the records. 1:31:12.840 --> 1:31:14.760 Yes, if I make a redic come to business, If 1:31:14.800 --> 1:31:15.120 I make a. 1:31:15.160 --> 1:31:17.599 Record tomorrow, it's gonna be the cockiest thing you've ever 1:31:17.640 --> 1:31:18.280 heard in your life. 1:31:18.560 --> 1:31:23.120 Right, But in between, it's okay to be humble, no 1:31:23.520 --> 1:31:27.240 humility humility is Okay, I didn't say suito. I didn't 1:31:27.240 --> 1:31:28.760 say suito. I don't know what suito means. 1:31:29.240 --> 1:31:33.720 Yeah, you know I'm talking. Yeah I'm fourth, But you 1:31:33.800 --> 1:31:40.280 know that's not false like you know for day Zy, 1:31:40.439 --> 1:31:43.479 you know, you know, but just be humble, you know 1:31:43.520 --> 1:31:46.439 what I'm saying. And you know people want to help you. 1:31:46.520 --> 1:31:48.160 Then you know you ain't got to be you know 1:31:48.320 --> 1:31:50.360 all that all the time, you know, leave it on 1:31:50.400 --> 1:31:52.759 the records, leave it on your music, leave it on stage. 1:31:53.200 --> 1:31:54.800 But other than that, just be you. You know what 1:31:54.840 --> 1:31:56.640 I'm saying. And I think you get a lot a 1:31:56.680 --> 1:31:58.559 lot further, you know in your career. 1:31:58.840 --> 1:32:00.680 Okay, before we get you about it, because I know 1:32:00.720 --> 1:32:02.160 you gotta go because Clauda is over there. 1:32:02.760 --> 1:32:03.400 I know you gotta go. 1:32:04.280 --> 1:32:08.400 But you actually have it's not just lip Sync Battle. 1:32:08.720 --> 1:32:10.840 It's not just you know, you playing these others. 1:32:10.920 --> 1:32:15.200 You actually have a production describe to these young black kids. 1:32:15.360 --> 1:32:18.000 Yeah, well we can actually help help people. 1:32:18.240 --> 1:32:21.720 Well, I co produced the Grammy nomination show for for 1:32:22.960 --> 1:32:26.519 about five years. I'm a producer on lip Sync Battle 1:32:26.520 --> 1:32:26.840 as well. 1:32:26.920 --> 1:32:28.760 Did you know how lightly he said that. You know 1:32:28.800 --> 1:32:31.360 what I'm saying, I think we should make noise for that. 1:32:34.160 --> 1:32:36.680 If somebody has you know, if somebody has you know, 1:32:36.840 --> 1:32:39.439 TV ideas or ideas that I think are worthy, I'm 1:32:39.479 --> 1:32:40.400 not gonna like everything. 1:32:40.800 --> 1:32:43.400 If I don't like it. If I don't like it, 1:32:43.520 --> 1:32:44.160 I'm gonna. 1:32:43.920 --> 1:32:46.360 Tell tell the person like I can send to Claudine. 1:32:47.080 --> 1:32:49.800 Yeah, something like that. So we gotta be easy. It's 1:32:49.800 --> 1:32:54.639 a million people. Let me just tell you something. 1:32:54.920 --> 1:33:00.800 One thing for Charlton Insertain when Violator dispersed, Yeah, it 1:33:00.880 --> 1:33:02.920 was probably the saddest day of my life. It was 1:33:03.000 --> 1:33:07.400 crazy because I didn't know anything other than Chris Lightighty. 1:33:07.800 --> 1:33:12.000 I didn't know other things other than Claudine, Laurie Dublin's 1:33:12.680 --> 1:33:15.000 and so on and so forth. Know this guy, I 1:33:15.080 --> 1:33:15.920 didn't know nothing. 1:33:16.439 --> 1:33:16.960 I feel you. 1:33:17.080 --> 1:33:20.840 So when when when Chris went away, it was probably 1:33:20.880 --> 1:33:22.240 the saddest day of my life. 1:33:22.560 --> 1:33:27.040 I feel you because I just didn't know. I don't 1:33:27.080 --> 1:33:31.439 know what to do. Called Bust and Buster was already 1:33:31.520 --> 1:33:34.240 had another and he had no no, he did another James. 1:33:34.360 --> 1:33:37.320 He was James at that time for a minute, but 1:33:37.479 --> 1:33:38.759 it was like another management. 1:33:38.800 --> 1:33:41.240 It was. It wasn't like James was Valley at that time, 1:33:41.600 --> 1:33:44.599 and I was just lost, like I'm just now finding 1:33:44.680 --> 1:33:49.000 myself met a great job. Me personally am one of 1:33:49.080 --> 1:33:52.480 the the very first person's people. 1:33:52.600 --> 1:33:55.360 I'm sorry, I said, persons, I'm like dyslexic. 1:33:56.040 --> 1:34:00.720 So it's Claudine, And I said, Claudine was She has 1:34:00.960 --> 1:34:04.519 never ever made me question her. 1:34:05.920 --> 1:34:07.759 She has never ever done anything. 1:34:07.800 --> 1:34:10.400 And the fact that Claudine is with you lets me 1:34:10.520 --> 1:34:12.759 know that you're really living out violator. 1:34:13.720 --> 1:34:15.920 And I love you, my brother love me, I love 1:34:16.000 --> 1:34:18.920 I love that woman. I love that woman slow. 1:34:19.000 --> 1:34:22.879 I love like Claudine. I love Claudine like you don't understand. 1:34:23.040 --> 1:34:24.639 And she asked, She said, yo, I want to meet 1:34:24.640 --> 1:34:27.600 your wife. And I made sure my wife came just 1:34:27.680 --> 1:34:31.120 to meet Claudine because she means so much to my life. 1:34:31.720 --> 1:34:33.720 Like I'm gonna be honest with you, and I went 1:34:33.800 --> 1:34:34.360 and looked for her. 1:34:34.400 --> 1:34:36.240 And when I said, damn, she I can't. 1:34:36.280 --> 1:34:37.200 I can't afford her. 1:34:45.200 --> 1:34:49.880 Came last year. I can't do it. 1:34:51.680 --> 1:34:59.720 I'm like, but I can't thank you enough, because you 1:34:59.800 --> 1:35:04.040 know what everything, that's what we old Chris Lighty, Chris 1:35:04.120 --> 1:35:06.080 light to keep his leg First of. 1:35:06.040 --> 1:35:08.240 All, you know, I old Chris on so many levels. 1:35:08.280 --> 1:35:11.439 I mean my mister Smith album him connected me with 1:35:11.520 --> 1:35:13.920 the track masters. We did that whole doing it record 1:35:13.960 --> 1:35:17.160 you talked to Chris was down with me when we 1:35:17.240 --> 1:35:21.680 did that song. You know Chris, you know queen, she 1:35:21.840 --> 1:35:24.960 was raised. That's the first time together and I. 1:35:25.000 --> 1:35:29.639 Gotta meet yeah, well you know, yeah, well. 1:35:32.240 --> 1:35:35.120 But yeah, Chris was. He was a special guy. And 1:35:35.240 --> 1:35:38.519 you know he's definitely be sorely missed. And I try 1:35:38.560 --> 1:35:41.400 to pay it forward by, you know, looking out for Tiffany. 1:35:41.880 --> 1:35:43.920 You know, when she's in l A, she stays with me, 1:35:45.439 --> 1:35:47.080 you know, making sure that she's good. 1:35:48.200 --> 1:35:52.960 L Nori and Buster created a new violator And because 1:35:52.960 --> 1:35:54.719 you know, you know, let me just tell you something, 1:35:54.760 --> 1:35:58.120 el And I'm sorry this is gonna get very touchy, 1:35:58.320 --> 1:36:00.200 not for you, not for anybody here. 1:36:01.040 --> 1:36:08.200 But the other day DMX performed right where in the 1:36:08.280 --> 1:36:11.960 Barclay Center. Okay, the whole hip hop. 1:36:11.920 --> 1:36:14.479 Said, oh, damn X, don't look good DMX. 1:36:14.840 --> 1:36:18.000 You know, he looks like he's smoking, he looks whatever. Whatever. 1:36:18.240 --> 1:36:23.080 But isn't it hip hop's responsibility to say that this 1:36:23.240 --> 1:36:25.680 man gave us ten million records, this man gave us 1:36:25.720 --> 1:36:28.519 such and such. Why don't we just come take him 1:36:29.720 --> 1:36:32.000 and put him in the rehab or put him into whatever. 1:36:32.080 --> 1:36:35.160 He needs to do to be safe. But you know what, 1:36:35.520 --> 1:36:38.960 hip hop don't have a union to do that als great? 1:36:39.439 --> 1:36:42.760 Nor He's great, Ian finished great, Rich Blanco is great, 1:36:43.320 --> 1:36:46.880 Brandy Actor is great. Shouldn't we give one percent of 1:36:47.040 --> 1:36:50.960 something so that if anything like this happens, like Chris 1:36:51.080 --> 1:36:56.200 Light passing tifferently, don't have to worry like DMX you know, 1:36:56.960 --> 1:36:57.960 have to go in the rehab. 1:36:58.400 --> 1:37:01.240 We can take care of that. I feel like hip hop, 1:37:01.640 --> 1:37:02.639 ohs hip hop. 1:37:02.840 --> 1:37:03.920 That at my bugging. 1:37:04.000 --> 1:37:09.479 Now, no, you're not bugging, you know, but that's that's 1:37:09.520 --> 1:37:12.280 a very complicated thing. You know what I mean, you 1:37:12.320 --> 1:37:14.479 know what you're talking about. I mean, you know, sons 1:37:14.560 --> 1:37:18.080 can I don't understand sons can't get their mothers off drugs. 1:37:18.120 --> 1:37:20.680 Man, you know that's a tough one. No, no, no, 1:37:20.800 --> 1:37:21.679 understand what you're saying. 1:37:22.120 --> 1:37:24.760 But in terms of you know, unionizing hip hop and 1:37:24.920 --> 1:37:28.879 and you know, it's something to think about. Strong management 1:37:29.080 --> 1:37:32.840 can you know, can create that kind of a vibe. 1:37:33.520 --> 1:37:36.120 It's not, it's not, it's nothing wrong. Look the laborers, 1:37:36.160 --> 1:37:38.439 look the people, the guys on the ground floor, the 1:37:38.520 --> 1:37:41.240 guys who had three four songs, the guys who you know, 1:37:41.560 --> 1:37:42.280 it would be great. 1:37:42.160 --> 1:37:45.360 If they had the medical court. Come on, we're talking about. 1:37:47.280 --> 1:37:50.320 But three, but three or four? Look, Rob Based and 1:37:50.400 --> 1:37:56.719 DJ Easy Rock don't deserve to be they the first. 1:37:58.640 --> 1:38:04.200 Don't mean like, okay, look at you're mad. Okay, I think, yeah, 1:38:04.240 --> 1:38:05.600 I don't think it's nothing wrong. I think that's a 1:38:05.640 --> 1:38:07.320 good idea. But you think, people, it takes it. 1:38:07.560 --> 1:38:09.479 It takes a lot of time and a lot of commitment. 1:38:09.560 --> 1:38:11.519 There's real there's you know, you have to be real 1:38:11.560 --> 1:38:12.880 about things like but if you gave. 1:38:12.840 --> 1:38:16.080 Ten years of hip hop right right, you're dedicated to 1:38:16.200 --> 1:38:16.599 hip hop. 1:38:16.840 --> 1:38:20.839 Now you you develop, you develop some type of disease. 1:38:21.680 --> 1:38:24.640 It only takes forty thousand to get to take to 1:38:24.680 --> 1:38:25.679 get rid of your disease. 1:38:26.080 --> 1:38:27.760 And there's people like us who have it. 1:38:28.760 --> 1:38:31.000 I'll give a band, You'll give a band, jay Z, 1:38:31.280 --> 1:38:34.520 give a band whatever that person's. 1:38:35.400 --> 1:38:37.960 You know, I would always be willing to contribute to 1:38:38.040 --> 1:38:39.479 something like that as long as I know. 1:38:39.640 --> 1:38:40.320 Dudes, ain't you know? 1:38:40.560 --> 1:38:44.640 No, No, No, it's transparent. It's transparent. 1:38:45.280 --> 1:38:55.519 Getting low profile got them new pariunt. 1:38:55.640 --> 1:38:59.479 Yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's transparent. We got be transparent, yes, 1:38:59.640 --> 1:39:01.800 because you know why, Because the thing is, I don't 1:39:01.840 --> 1:39:04.280 want to give an extra five thousand that I don't 1:39:04.320 --> 1:39:04.519 want to. 1:39:04.600 --> 1:39:08.360 I would totally, I would have no problem with You know, look, 1:39:08.400 --> 1:39:11.719 you're not gonna be successful if you don't give period anyway, 1:39:12.120 --> 1:39:12.840 that's just part of it. 1:39:13.160 --> 1:39:14.519 You know, that comes with territory. 1:39:14.840 --> 1:39:16.080 So if you think you're gonna be able to be 1:39:16.120 --> 1:39:18.320 a selfish prick and be successful, it's not gonna happen. 1:39:18.520 --> 1:39:21.479 You're gonna be because the people that are successful are 1:39:21.479 --> 1:39:24.400 successful because of the things they do right, and the 1:39:24.760 --> 1:39:27.280 parts of their life where they fail, they're unsuccessful because 1:39:27.280 --> 1:39:30.800 of the things they do incorrectly. And so you know, 1:39:30.920 --> 1:39:33.559 because a lot of times people think an evil guy 1:39:33.920 --> 1:39:36.880 is successful because he's evil. No, he's successful because he's 1:39:36.880 --> 1:39:40.240 doing something right. He also will reap the rewards of 1:39:40.320 --> 1:39:43.960 being evil in another area, so don't confuse him. People 1:39:44.040 --> 1:39:48.960 are successful because of what they do right, period, and 1:39:49.040 --> 1:39:50.639 they lose because of what they do wrong. 1:39:51.000 --> 1:39:54.120 You know what I mean. It's like sports, you win 1:39:54.280 --> 1:39:58.479 because of what you did right. They'll be repercussions for 1:39:58.520 --> 1:40:04.679 the but there's repercussions for other things. Flagrance, you know, whatever, 1:40:05.880 --> 1:40:09.880 you know, turnover like so you know it's consequences. 1:40:10.280 --> 1:40:12.080 You're mass small. I just gotta make a noise for 1:40:12.120 --> 1:40:20.160 you being mass small, but picture one drop piece of love. 1:40:20.240 --> 1:40:23.439 Y'all. You did any shaping and gold. No, no, I'm good. 1:40:23.479 --> 1:40:23.880 I got you. 1:40:23.960 --> 1:40:26.640 Whatever you're gravy, I'm great. Thank you, thank you,