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Speaker 3: Right now, we have what I would like to call
Speaker 3: the King of hip hop, what I would like to
Speaker 3: call the King of alternate. What I mean by that is,
Speaker 3: after your career has been done, he's the person who
Speaker 3: put out the blueprint for what you're supposed to do
Speaker 3: after your rhymes. This motherfucker is the King of Queens.
Speaker 3: I'm saying it. I'm from Queens. I feel like I
Speaker 3: have the authority. He's the King of Queens, the King
Speaker 3: of New York, the King of hip hop. First artist
Speaker 3: ever signed to death jam rackets, which means that.
Speaker 2: I might not existed if it wasn't for this one.
Speaker 4: A lot of.
Speaker 5: Jam.
Speaker 2: This is real ship.
Speaker 3: And right now we got the god father. I might
Speaker 3: I might just call him the father a motherfucking Queens,
Speaker 3: New York and everything else we got. L appreciate that love,
Speaker 3: l L listen.
Speaker 2: Can I call you? Of course in my mom and
Speaker 2: my mom I always call you uncle L. In my mind,
Speaker 2: I don't know what like.
Speaker 3: I like even when you say with something me, I'm
Speaker 3: like uncle, you know, like I just I got so.
Speaker 2: Much respect for you, Thank you for you. And then
Speaker 2: and then you.
Speaker 3: Came to my hood though, do you remember came to
Speaker 3: my hood. It made me like and then run DMC
Speaker 3: came to and Diggie Simmons came, and then Diggie Simmons
Speaker 3: he smashed me all the little girls in my hood.
Speaker 2: Now, but.
Speaker 4: You put a found into around but L we got.
Speaker 2: I don't care what you say. It's but I gotta,
Speaker 2: I gotta, I gotta tell you how how important you mean.
Speaker 2: The queens.
Speaker 3: Thank you man, uh, not only queens, because if you
Speaker 3: look at queens, you look at people like you nas
Speaker 3: run DMC.
Speaker 2: You gotta look at the whole spectrum of hip hop.
Speaker 3: So if you say a person was a leader of queens,
Speaker 3: a person was actually the leader of a whole generation.
Speaker 3: So now you have people like Drake, you have people
Speaker 3: like jah Ruh, you have people all these people who
Speaker 3: actually they can't say they didn't pattern their style after you.
Speaker 3: How do you feel about that?
Speaker 6: Well, you know, you know hip hop is, you know,
Speaker 6: hip hop is a complex thing, man. I mean, at
Speaker 6: the end of the day, like you know, you know,
Speaker 6: if you're a decent look at fella, you gotta damn
Speaker 6: kill yourself to be accepted by dudes, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean? Yeah, pretty much the best. I mean,
Speaker 2: look at Pop.
Speaker 6: You know it's a handsome dude, but look what he
Speaker 6: had to do with you guys, accept it, you know.
Speaker 6: I mean, if if I made one more chance, it
Speaker 6: would have called it a love song, but from Biggie
Speaker 6: with something else, you know what I mean. So you
Speaker 6: know it's kind of like, you know, you gotta you
Speaker 6: gotta have it takes courage to do what you love
Speaker 6: and to do what you believe in, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. And that was my thing. It wasn't a
Speaker 6: matter of you know, I just wanted to have girls,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You know my friends did too. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: I figured I made some songs and.
Speaker 6: Trying to get some you know, I didn't you know,
Speaker 6: I didn't realize that that was like you know, because
Speaker 6: you know the thing with hip hop is that you know,
Speaker 6: if you're not if you're not hit, if you're not
Speaker 6: spending gun balls and talking about packs, that gold title
Speaker 6: is gonna be alusive for you because you know, most
Speaker 6: of the time the voting members, that's what they really
Speaker 6: you know, the fellas really, that's what they really want
Speaker 6: to to you know what I'm saying. But you know,
Speaker 6: I just decided that I was gonna do what I
Speaker 6: wanted to do. I had the balls to just do
Speaker 6: what I wanted to do, So you know, I did
Speaker 6: hard records and love records and hard records and weird
Speaker 6: records and creative artsy ship.
Speaker 2: Do you think do you think?
Speaker 3: Because I think that al perfected the hard record and
Speaker 3: then the crossover record after that, and then Biggie kind
Speaker 3: of took that style and the reason why I want
Speaker 3: to ask you, have you ever thought like that because
Speaker 3: of the flavor in your air. It was like they
Speaker 3: kind of try to keep you closer.
Speaker 2: This is me as a fan. I have no flavoring
Speaker 2: I mean flavoring year first of all.
Speaker 6: Flavoring Year is so crazy because so many people thought
Speaker 6: he ship. They're doing some of my trainings or some ship.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean. You know what I.
Speaker 2: Run around here talk about that shout out to my
Speaker 2: man time fight.
Speaker 6: That was something that we used to say all the time,
Speaker 6: you know, saying just when it was on and popping.
Speaker 6: I had no idea that when they was gonna spell
Speaker 6: out the syllables, we was gonna be and you know,
Speaker 6: all with all love and respect, you know, Tranningville, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. They know he's gonna be there,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 2: With all love and respect to everybody, you know, do
Speaker 2: what you want beefing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: But uh yeah, you know, look, man, whether it's Big
Speaker 6: or Nas or you know the other guys, Like I
Speaker 6: respect all the artists for what they do, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, and respect anybody who's original and and
Speaker 6: does it from the heart, does it from the soul,
Speaker 6: like you know, I was listening to that Kendrick record,
Speaker 6: and when he had said, uh, you know he does
Speaker 6: it from the soul, you do it, you know, for you,
Speaker 6: it comes from the meds something I'm paraphrasing, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. I just love I love hip hop,
Speaker 6: you know, I love the culture. You know, I love
Speaker 6: everything about it. But the thing was, you know, also
Speaker 6: at the same time, you know, I was never gonna
Speaker 6: be a slave to the music business, so meaning that
Speaker 6: the first time that I went and sigh down and said, oh,
Speaker 6: I'd like to get X amount as an advance to
Speaker 6: this album, and somebody like they shoulders shook a little
Speaker 6: bit when you.
Speaker 2: Radio that.
Speaker 6: Hero, we forget it, so, you know, but I just
Speaker 6: you know, look, man, I just like to do everything.
Speaker 2: You know. I don't feel like you should limit yourself.
Speaker 6: You know, if you have the talent that if you
Speaker 6: have the talent to do many things, you shouldn't be
Speaker 6: afraid to do that because dreams don't have deadlines. And
Speaker 6: you know, a lot of times, you know, in our culture,
Speaker 6: especially in the black community and as young males, you know,
Speaker 6: we get boxed in to what marginalized. Well no, not
Speaker 6: just marginalized by mainstream society, but boxed in in the
Speaker 6: sense that you know, you feel like there's certain things
Speaker 6: that you might have dreams, but you don't think it's cool.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You might want to you
Speaker 2: might be in ourgami, you might be in something.
Speaker 6: Like knitting like blankets, like and putting them over gates.
Speaker 3: Like think, because you're not a rap off or you're
Speaker 3: not a basketball player, you're not cool.
Speaker 2: And we got to take that.
Speaker 6: We do that to ourselves with our music too, because
Speaker 6: we don't give yourself We don't give ourselves freedom, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, Like, we don't give ourselves the
Speaker 6: freedom to do what we want to do. We always
Speaker 6: feel like, you know, every every time I make a song,
Speaker 6: I got to worry about what with this particular set
Speaker 6: of friends thinks forget my imagination, but I might be
Speaker 6: imagining some other ship. It's not that I don't want
Speaker 6: to make records that my friends like, but what if I.
Speaker 2: Think of something else? Why can't I do that?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Why can't I do that?
Speaker 6: And so that's the thing that I kind of always
Speaker 6: acted on that impulse. You know, I never you know,
Speaker 6: I never was like I just wouldn't listen to that,
Speaker 6: you know, you know what I mean, like, I just
Speaker 6: do what I want to do because oh.
Speaker 3: Your love, but I gotta, I gotta get to this.
Speaker 3: I never you know, I've been seeing you for twenty
Speaker 3: years and I'll never asked you this question.
Speaker 2: What is pink cookies in the plastic back getting crushed
Speaker 2: by building I've been going with whatever, any nigga said,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you. I'll tell you what it means. It
Speaker 2: makes sense now.
Speaker 6: I was on the phone with a girl right and
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Marley Studio, and she was
Speaker 6: talking Molly, Mam.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I.
Speaker 6: Had I had smelled some weed, but I didn't in hell,
Speaker 6: you know. And uh, you know after I smelled the weed,
Speaker 6: you know, after smelling the weed, I laid on the
Speaker 6: couch and I was talking to this.
Speaker 2: Girl and she said, I was like, you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: She was like, what are you talking about? Said baby,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I'm thinking about cookies in the plastic bag getting crushed
Speaker 6: by buildings right now, she said, she said.
Speaker 2: And what she said what I was like, that's.
Speaker 6: A song, said your mother said, your.
Speaker 2: Molly, let's get it. So I went downstairs. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean Molly made the record, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you.
Speaker 3: So it was so complicated that I knew the explanation.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it wasn't.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah yeah, you know yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not even I ain't coming here to line
Speaker 2: run for office. You know That's what it was, you know.
Speaker 6: And I had the miniature satellites floating in closets, fine
Speaker 6: and pockets.
Speaker 2: I had a few of them. I got more of
Speaker 2: them jumping out.
Speaker 6: Of a football jumping out of a helicopter into a
Speaker 6: football stadium filled with cotton, candy and ship kind of money.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you some crazy ship.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you one thing. Al I know you
Speaker 3: don't know you taught me this. I know you don't
Speaker 3: know you taught me this. But I was on the
Speaker 3: Top forty tour, right, and I only have seven dates
Speaker 3: on the Top forty tour.
Speaker 2: You had like seventy, right, And I didn't ride on
Speaker 2: the private jet. I was commercial everybody.
Speaker 3: But if you fat Joe Puff daddy Jah rule, this
Speaker 3: is this is that tight. But I got seven dates.
Speaker 3: So every date that I had had with you, like
Speaker 3: you had your room and then you had your room
Speaker 3: for your people and I never disrupted you.
Speaker 2: I never came in there. But there's one day I
Speaker 2: was like, you can I speak to L And I
Speaker 2: was like, who is it?
Speaker 3: And they said nor He said, let that, nigga, And
Speaker 3: I felt like you was shadow boxing. I don't know.
Speaker 2: That before.
Speaker 3: You came in and I said, yo, L, because you
Speaker 3: had gave out roses this night. You had gave out roses, right,
Speaker 3: So I said, hell, Like, I'm eighteen nineteen at the time.
Speaker 3: I'm so young. So I'm like, oh, every girl in
Speaker 3: the crowd is for you. Why are you not out there?
Speaker 3: And you know what she told me. You said I
Speaker 3: rolled my wife And I said why he said, because
Speaker 3: I never get in trouble.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah yeah. And let me tell you something to
Speaker 2: this day, I rolled my wife. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Why you you really don't you know? Why get the
Speaker 2: money back? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like like, and you know, you know the crazy thing is,
Speaker 3: younger brothers come up to me and be like.
Speaker 2: Yo, Nory, why are you rolling with your wife? And
Speaker 2: I just be like, I'm gonna use that now? Would
Speaker 2: you say? I don't want to give but you know,
Speaker 2: you know, you know I have moment Snory in my life.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean, I have you know, you know,
Speaker 6: uh you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: But I you know, but at the same time, yeah,
Speaker 2: we can't. Yeah, he had a he got easy tiger.
Speaker 2: You know this raw it's raw, it's rough out there
Speaker 2: some water out there.
Speaker 3: Then I didn't know though when you told me that,
Speaker 3: I was like, I was bugging well and then I
Speaker 3: had to actually live.
Speaker 2: And then when I lived, I said, so you thought
Speaker 2: he was bugging out when he told you that.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I in my mind that part he said,
Speaker 3: of course, like and then years later.
Speaker 6: I was like, you got I understand. Reminds me of
Speaker 6: a story I was. You know, I won't say his
Speaker 6: name because I want to nobody.
Speaker 2: Right, it's wrap du you know.
Speaker 6: Back and day he came to me like, yo, yo,
Speaker 6: L you know, let me hold something, you know, some paper, Well,
Speaker 6: let me hold something, you know.
Speaker 2: I tried.
Speaker 6: I tried to tell him about He's like, yo, let
Speaker 6: me hold something. And I tried to tell him, you know,
Speaker 6: talk to him about stocks and bonds and ship like that.
Speaker 6: He was like, yo, L may telling us some stock.
Speaker 6: Let me hold something stocks and bonds. So that reminds
Speaker 6: me of that, Like at a point, so you're not.
Speaker 6: You only can understand it when you're.
Speaker 2: Ready for it. You did what sound ready for it,
Speaker 2: and a.
Speaker 6: Lot of times, you know, and that's true with music too,
Speaker 6: because you can do music and put it out there
Speaker 6: and people just don't understand it and it flies over
Speaker 6: their head and they catch it later, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Sometimes that happens too. Whoever seen all perform before I
Speaker 2: raise your hands?
Speaker 3: God damn it, it should be more people raising your
Speaker 3: fucking hands.
Speaker 2: Let me just say you something. At one point in
Speaker 2: the show, he takes off his shirt. He just get
Speaker 2: every woman a flower and they super wet. You could
Speaker 2: just tell because their heads. I'm getting wet. It just like,
Speaker 2: damn are you wet? Like that's the goal. And you
Speaker 2: know so, I'm a kid, I'm eighteen, nineteen years old.
Speaker 2: Chris Lighty's like, Yo, you gotta go, you gotta follow
Speaker 2: l L.
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, cool, and I'm doing it.
Speaker 2: They're all on private planes. It's okay, I'm getting there,
Speaker 2: just commercial. What is okay?
Speaker 3: I'm still happy and I'm like OL and L.
Speaker 2: It's like he knocked none of them down, believe it.
Speaker 2: Like first I was like yeah, yeah, yeah, and you
Speaker 2: were so you know, content and now you know you
Speaker 2: can't handle it.
Speaker 3: I live like, do you approve my lifestyle?
Speaker 6: Lord?
Speaker 2: Can you seven wives?
Speaker 7: And hell?
Speaker 2: Can you? Ain't judging the last two days?
Speaker 6: Ever?
Speaker 2: Gonna judge you is me? No, I may need you
Speaker 2: to prove my life to say I approve this message.
Speaker 2: I lived ten years behind you, because you know my
Speaker 2: I got Halloween in my closet. Time now now.
Speaker 8: All type of bones and toss and type of bone
Speaker 8: away from that list bones spines hanging over the closet
Speaker 8: door school album.
Speaker 2: Man, I gotta ask you this for this.
Speaker 3: This is not for the for the podcast, This is
Speaker 3: not for anything. This is because I sincerely respect. I
Speaker 3: love COOLJ. I looked up to our COOLJ. But you
Speaker 3: did kind of crush cannabis career early and I never
Speaker 3: knew why, like me personally, like you know what, no,
Speaker 3: I know the industry answered why. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: the real he disrespect you in the session.
Speaker 2: What happens because you're a queen's nigga, and I respect.
Speaker 6: What happened, you know, I mean the real, honest answer
Speaker 6: is that you know, one day, you know, we was
Speaker 6: I was on my way to student and that came
Speaker 6: up to me and you know, and you know, my
Speaker 6: you know, uh, because it's a little taller than me,
Speaker 6: I'm not going to crush his career.
Speaker 2: It was a little taller than me a.
Speaker 6: Little bit, so you know, he walked up and he
Speaker 6: was like, yoll you know yo, you're tattooed. Man, like
Speaker 6: your tattooed and get one like that. I said, now,
Speaker 6: you know you gotta get your own.
Speaker 5: You know, I didn't understand that, like mentically, like I
Speaker 5: just didn't understand that.
Speaker 2: It's your own joint, Like I didn't really know. I
Speaker 2: just didn't understand it. Like it was no disrespect. I
Speaker 2: was like, you got yourn I'm give one like that.
Speaker 6: And then after we had that conversation, when I got
Speaker 6: when I went in and heard his boss, he said,
Speaker 6: is that a mic on your arm?
Speaker 2: Let me ball that?
Speaker 9: And I just like was like I just did not
Speaker 9: understand it. I just you know, I couldn't understand it.
Speaker 9: I just bl okay, And.
Speaker 4: That was it. Take me from that moment he already
Speaker 4: had is tu that you already had your version and
Speaker 4: then you changed it?
Speaker 6: Is that No, that's not the truth. Is I went
Speaker 6: in I heard what he said, and I responded, to
Speaker 6: the ship that's on your record, you ain't off.
Speaker 2: I was too ignorant for that.
Speaker 5: A smart guy, you know, jay Z would have took
Speaker 5: him off the record.
Speaker 2: You know, let's do it smart. I was an idiot.
Speaker 2: Everybody ignorance, ignor. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 2: At that time, I was.
Speaker 3: Running around and now for some reason, and he said,
Speaker 3: do you know what's going on?
Speaker 2: I'm acting like I'm dumb.
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, l L is battling cannabis.
Speaker 2: Serious And he was looking at him, but mother, I
Speaker 2: know what's going on.
Speaker 3: But I'm like worn, But he's like yo.
Speaker 6: But then yeah, but see the thing is what people
Speaker 6: don't know is that I you know, after that I
Speaker 6: saw him cannabis and after.
Speaker 3: You crossed his career.
Speaker 2: Well no, no, I saw.
Speaker 6: Him and I said, yo, he was just debating about
Speaker 6: putting a song about me out.
Speaker 2: I said, yo.
Speaker 6: I went to him, I said, yo, you know what, Okay,
Speaker 6: it happened on the record. Said first of all, nobody's
Speaker 6: gonna know if you don't make a record.
Speaker 2: I said, that's the first thing I never knew. And
Speaker 2: now that's a very important part of YEA.
Speaker 10: I told him this, so you saying, before before.
Speaker 6: We record came reaction record came out, I met with him,
Speaker 6: I know, I said, yo, I said, don't put no
Speaker 6: record out of nobody's gonna know.
Speaker 2: Just leave it. And you know, I got a little
Speaker 2: high hand. It's between us, leave, he said, if I
Speaker 2: don't put it out on the politics.
Speaker 6: And and I'm like, you know, and and then why
Speaker 6: cleft's over in the corner and the betting.
Speaker 7: And ship cuts him up, you know, up the now
Speaker 7: why no, no, I love, it's all good.
Speaker 6: But then he put the record out, and then you know,
Speaker 6: then the rest because I told him, I said, yo,
Speaker 6: let's just do a record together.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean said yes, I said that,
Speaker 3: so yes, I said.
Speaker 2: We should have did a rec Let's just do a
Speaker 2: record together.
Speaker 6: We could, you know, because I didn't really want the drama,
Speaker 6: but you know, it is what it is, you know.
Speaker 6: And then you know, I just responded and that was it,
Speaker 6: you know, and we we did what we did, and
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 2: You know, around you crusted. His career's makes annoy for
Speaker 2: so we ain't gonna make him. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 5: We're gonna make no sway, and I don't don't pad
Speaker 5: in him too.
Speaker 3: I'm going to going to cool. But how did the
Speaker 3: ship started? How did that start? Because it seems like
Speaker 3: al al now, you might not start it, but you
Speaker 3: definitely finished.
Speaker 2: What I said.
Speaker 6: I said on the record, I said I'm only eighteen,
Speaker 6: making more than your pops.
Speaker 2: And he felt offended by that. What making more than
Speaker 2: your pops?
Speaker 6: And he was offended because he thought it was the
Speaker 6: wrong message he was making.
Speaker 2: Well, no, no, he thought I was.
Speaker 6: Sending a bad message to young kids out there like
Speaker 6: I was because I you know, looked when I coming up.
Speaker 6: When I was growing up, you know, sixteen seventeen eighteen,
Speaker 6: like seventeen eighteen nineteen, I was always with rich Porter.
Speaker 6: I was always with al Po and a Z and
Speaker 6: my man Big Chuck from Mount Vernon took me with them.
Speaker 6: So that's who I used to be always hanging up with.
Speaker 6: I would be on one, three two, And you know
Speaker 6: I was always uptown, not not fact Cat, even though
Speaker 6: he was from Queens. I know Prem and I knew
Speaker 6: you know, the for Tartle brothers and all of them.
Speaker 6: I knew, I knew them.
Speaker 2: But I was like to make no, no, I was.
Speaker 2: I was a shorty.
Speaker 6: So when I like, when I knew that for titles,
Speaker 6: they was giving me warm champagne.
Speaker 2: Like, hey man, you begging for champagne, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 6: But when I started hanging out with Chuck, yeah, I
Speaker 6: got all the champagne.
Speaker 2: I don't take it, personna. Make sure.
Speaker 6: So when I you know, when I used to hang
Speaker 6: with with you know, with our Poe, and when Chuck
Speaker 6: would take me around to hang with our Poe and
Speaker 6: Azy and and Rich and all of them, and Black
Speaker 6: just used to come a little lady, he rest in peace.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: I just came up, you know, in a different you know,
Speaker 6: thought process, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And I just tried to do things right, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. That's all basically.
Speaker 3: Did you know Benmy was the biggest drug dealer in
Speaker 3: Queens when he was hanging with him at one point,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I know then was my man. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I with Bem, you know, you know the whole time,
Speaker 6: you know, I was.
Speaker 2: In some of his initial escapades. He got you.
Speaker 6: But you know what the thing is about that when
Speaker 6: people have to understand about that is that first of all,
Speaker 6: we don't want to glorify that.
Speaker 2: No, it's not cute. We do not. And it's a tough.
Speaker 6: Life and it destroys lives, and most of the guys
Speaker 6: that are really doing it for real wish they weren't, okay,
Speaker 6: and the ones that are really successful at it really
Speaker 6: wish they were successful.
Speaker 2: At something else, anything else.
Speaker 6: This is a horrible way to live, okay, And we
Speaker 6: confront nack like it isn't, but it is.
Speaker 2: It's a very tough way.
Speaker 6: To live because I've seen it firsthand for real, and
Speaker 6: but you know, it taught me a lot. Though I
Speaker 6: learned a lot. You know, I forgot the point I
Speaker 6: was trying to make because I was.
Speaker 3: No because you know why, you know, I'm telling you
Speaker 3: the point that you're trying to make because at one.
Speaker 6: Point so so basically he thought that I was glorifying
Speaker 6: that lifestyle when I said eighteen, so he wanted to,
Speaker 6: you know, be conscious about that. But what he didn't
Speaker 6: understand is that, you know that I'm an eighteen year
Speaker 6: old young man and I don't know anything else but this.
Speaker 2: I'm growing up in the hood. I'm just growing upout yeah,
Speaker 2: But when you're growing up in the hood and I.
Speaker 6: See a car drive by, that's all I know. It
Speaker 6: ain't And I see a guy how he gets it, That's.
Speaker 2: All I know.
Speaker 6: It's not about I'm not even thinking about right and
Speaker 6: wrong and consequences and ruining my life. And you don't
Speaker 6: even think on that level. That doesn't even coming to
Speaker 6: your brain. The only thing you think.
Speaker 2: Is I'm here and the money's there, and where do
Speaker 2: I gotta go to get it? That's all you really
Speaker 2: think about.
Speaker 6: Now when you're older, you get in your thirties, your
Speaker 6: late twenties, and you know, maybe even forty, you can
Speaker 6: start reflecting and kind of cleaning up your life. So
Speaker 6: I think he had the right attention, but that the
Speaker 6: problem was that he wasn't merciful and understanding that.
Speaker 2: I was a young kid, and this is all I
Speaker 2: was thinking now on the MC level.
Speaker 6: You know, you know, I've never shot away from trying
Speaker 6: to snap somebody's head off.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna lie, you know. I feel like you're
Speaker 2: still in the battle right now. Right now, I feel
Speaker 2: like it's still on a battle right now. I felt
Speaker 2: like he was gonna beat Charlamagne. Recently, what happened. You
Speaker 2: know my think, no, no, no, My thing. My thing
Speaker 2: with Homie is, you know, you know.
Speaker 6: He he he likes to get on the radio and
Speaker 6: bully people. You know what I'm saying. I don't like
Speaker 6: bullies me neither. You know what I'm saying, I really
Speaker 6: don't like bullies. And you know, I understand he's a
Speaker 6: smart guy. I get that, but the bully thing didn't
Speaker 6: work for me, and I felt like he was picking
Speaker 6: on me and undermining my my, my, my brand and
Speaker 6: my my my my five you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: But I wasn't gonna go up there and do the
Speaker 6: baby thing.
Speaker 2: I just told him. Look, I just told him, listen
Speaker 2: when you.
Speaker 6: Go, I love baby, that's my man.
Speaker 2: But I wasn't doing that. I'm not gonna go to
Speaker 2: your show.
Speaker 4: Your show.
Speaker 2: Why you make money when you're not doing that?
Speaker 3: By the way, that's the most viewed, I'm sure, and
Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot of seconds.
Speaker 6: Yes, But my thing was, look, you know, I said, look,
Speaker 6: let's just botch the charity.
Speaker 2: You know, I give you thousands and to beat people up.
Speaker 2: But I was accurate, You're gonna get so no, not
Speaker 2: for child when you're boxing for charity.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 3: with you. Nobody want to box.
Speaker 6: I didn't want to, you know now I don't, but
Speaker 6: I don't want.
Speaker 8: I'm not.
Speaker 6: I have no problems with him. I wish him the best.
Speaker 6: Just leave me alone and don't.
Speaker 2: Pick on me.
Speaker 3: Just so you don't pick on I don't like to
Speaker 3: get you.
Speaker 2: You can everybody watching his pocket, No I can't. I
Speaker 2: don't plan. You can beat everybody in hip hop, you know. No,
Speaker 2: I don't get Carrid, but there's some crazy one. But
Speaker 2: everybody watching.
Speaker 6: This podcast, don't bully, don't be bullied, and don't pick
Speaker 6: on people.
Speaker 2: Because that was my only problem with that. And you
Speaker 2: felt like he was picking on yeah, because.
Speaker 6: He's always got something to say, like he doesn't understand.
Speaker 6: Like I give you an example, like, you know, everybody
Speaker 6: was mad at me, and I understand their point of view,
Speaker 6: but everybody was mad at me about you know, the
Speaker 6: whole accidental racist record.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And that was a big conversation, right, and they thought,
Speaker 6: you know or El's you know, Aiden in the betting
Speaker 6: us forgetting your verse.
Speaker 2: Your verse when the change yeah, they did.
Speaker 6: So what they didn't understand is that, you know, now
Speaker 6: fast forward and look at the shape the countries in
Speaker 6: and you think about what me and.
Speaker 2: Him was attempting to do.
Speaker 6: It was ideological, but look at where to shape the
Speaker 6: country is in now. You people at that point thought
Speaker 6: that I was out of my mind for talking comparing
Speaker 6: a do rag to a Confederate flag. But now you're
Speaker 6: seeing little brothers get shot down every day because of
Speaker 6: the outfits. Whether it's a hoodie. It may not be
Speaker 6: a do rag, but maybe it's a hoodie with Trayvon.
Speaker 6: Maybe it's some sagging jeans. Maybe it's a brother outside
Speaker 6: of s UV getting shot down. That's the thing I
Speaker 6: was talking about. I was trying to humanize us. I
Speaker 6: would never suggest that we forget our history. That's absurd,
Speaker 6: Chris ludicrous. But you gotta be willing to Like I
Speaker 6: give you another example, Like people was mad at me
Speaker 6: when I.
Speaker 2: Said, oh, r P. Robert E. Lee, Oh I hate hell. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I could say that robberty E Lee, r P. Robbert E. Lee.
Speaker 2: They hated me.
Speaker 6: He was a general and the Confederate Army. Yeah, and
Speaker 6: I understand how people feel. But when that racist dude
Speaker 6: ran up in that church and he shot up all
Speaker 6: of those people and that black church down south, and
Speaker 6: then those black people got together and said, you know what,
Speaker 6: you know, we're praying for them, and we forgive them
Speaker 6: and we want.
Speaker 2: To send love to him. The country held.
Speaker 6: Them in high esteem because they were able to get
Speaker 6: pon their emotions and see the bigger picture. And that's
Speaker 6: what I was trying to show people, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. But it took four years and all these
Speaker 6: people dying by the hands of corrupt police, because not
Speaker 6: all police are corrupt, you know what I mean, but
Speaker 6: dying by the hands of some of these corrupt policemen
Speaker 6: and dying at the hands in the wrong way for
Speaker 6: people to understand that what I was saying and what
Speaker 6: me and Brad were attempting to do was very real,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. But that's why that hole.
Speaker 6: They laugh at you, then they ignore you, then they
Speaker 6: fight you, then you win.
Speaker 2: Thing. It's true because they laughed at us.
Speaker 6: Then you know that's and now everybody was laughing at us,
Speaker 6: you know, But then when you really and then they
Speaker 6: ignore us.
Speaker 2: But now look at what's going on. Now they're trying
Speaker 2: to fight that same.
Speaker 6: They trying to promote those same vibes, those same values
Speaker 6: that we talked about. So you know, that's about the courage,
Speaker 6: that's about art. You know, that's what art does. It
Speaker 6: provokes people.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I just want to say to you if you don't
Speaker 3: know how much you appreciated in the hip hop, No,
Speaker 3: but I appreciate hip hop.
Speaker 2: No. But listen, let me just tell you something.
Speaker 3: If it wasn't for L cool J, there wouldn't be
Speaker 3: a NOAs it wasn't for Nas, they wouldn't be a
Speaker 3: mob deep it was for a mob deep, they wouldn't
Speaker 3: be a component or Jega.
Speaker 2: So me personally, I want.
Speaker 3: To look at you face to face, out the eye
Speaker 3: man a man, and tell you how much that not
Speaker 3: only queens because we're not queens.
Speaker 2: It's limited. Even though queens we won the world. Yeah,
Speaker 2: can make that. Even though queens we won the world.
Speaker 2: But that's pretty funny. I did hear that, Yes, I
Speaker 2: did hear you. Give me I had a condo around
Speaker 2: the corner from his from his being raised for twenty years.
Speaker 2: God damn it, had a condo around the Trump God
Speaker 2: damn it I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I was this close to buying a condo next in
Speaker 3: his building because it's it was cost effective.
Speaker 11: Course effective, the Trump joint that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you came one day, I'm shooting a black
Speaker 3: Money video.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the most disrespectful record on my album.
Speaker 3: And I call for l L cool J to come through,
Speaker 3: and l J comes through my motherfucking hook.
Speaker 6: So I always love your music. No, no, no, I always
Speaker 6: loved your music. I always felt your music.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. What all of that?
Speaker 12: You know?
Speaker 2: I mean you introduced world to the Neptunes and all that.
Speaker 2: I mean, you put you, you put on the man.
Speaker 2: But I met for real because of you. I can't.
Speaker 2: I should have meant for real.
Speaker 6: And that's when I did love you better and I
Speaker 6: ended up ultimately doing love you better than all the americords.
Speaker 6: But you know you, You've done a lot. You know
Speaker 6: you're an important person.
Speaker 2: What we're doing.
Speaker 6: That's why the podcast is so successful. I've been watching it,
Speaker 6: watching episodes.
Speaker 3: And CBS and me and e F Fam. We got
Speaker 3: some deals to bring you.
Speaker 2: I got your covet I that's a lot of stuff. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I got something.
Speaker 3: And the lip sync Battle. Yeah, was that your idea?
Speaker 3: Always have somebody else?
Speaker 6: Well, the idea came from John Krazinski and Steve Merchant
Speaker 6: and they brought it, you know through jam sound Rich.
Speaker 2: I don't know who they are, but they sound rich
Speaker 2: there Rich.
Speaker 6: Now it came to us and uh, basically you know,
Speaker 6: but I own the format along with my partners, and
Speaker 6: we've sold a format and over one hundred and fifty
Speaker 6: countries around the world, and we have like a partnership
Speaker 6: with like Carnival Cruises, and uh, you know, the app
Speaker 6: is starting to grow now and really.
Speaker 2: Doing well, the lip Sync Battle app, and I mean
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 6: And we've also we have different versions of the show
Speaker 6: around the world, so like in Tiland, it's like a
Speaker 6: you know, it'd be a tie host doing and we
Speaker 6: just did like Ukraine, and we did a deal in Russia,
Speaker 6: and we did a deal you know in China. We
Speaker 6: just did a big deal in China for Phillips in Battles.
Speaker 6: So that thing is global. And then you know, for
Speaker 6: people don't know as with like n C I s
Speaker 6: l A, I also have a vested interest in the show.
Speaker 6: I'm not just an act on the show. I haven't
Speaker 6: now that's the guy with the shooting people's a terrorist,
Speaker 6: and that's in two hundred countries around the world as well.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. So it's it's you know,
Speaker 6: it's really going well, it's going well.
Speaker 2: You know, listen, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: When I looked at hip hop, right, I was tired
Speaker 3: of hip hop. I was just tired. Like I mean,
Speaker 3: I loved it. I still want to make it. I couldn't,
Speaker 3: God bless her dad. After Chris Light he died. I
Speaker 3: couldn't actually attack it the way I wanted to attack it.
Speaker 3: So I said, fuck it, let me just think of
Speaker 3: something else. And all I did was look at you.
Speaker 3: I looked at you and said, what the fuck is
Speaker 3: l doing?
Speaker 2: And ll because are you in shape? I'm not. I
Speaker 2: wasn't in shape back then. You said you're good. Now
Speaker 2: I'm a little okay. You look like you know you're
Speaker 2: doing handsteads something. You got something, watch it, watch watch
Speaker 2: your Instagram, but.
Speaker 5: Watch your instagram killing me.
Speaker 3: But I sat back and I said, what can I
Speaker 3: do to do something else other than the hip hop?
Speaker 3: Because music just gets boring, even if you're making money,
Speaker 3: music just gets boring now.
Speaker 6: But you know what, let me tell you something I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't feel that way. I think my thing is
Speaker 6: I just never limit myself. Like I said, if you
Speaker 6: have more than one talent, you should utilize them all.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. If you're a Dion Sanders
Speaker 6: and you can play baseball and football, play both. You know,
Speaker 6: music is not off the table for me. You know,
Speaker 6: I'm not telling you that I'll never make another record.
Speaker 2: It's just right.
Speaker 13: You're gonna make another record right well, right now, my
Speaker 13: priority is TV. I'm sorry, certain it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: So I'm not saying this off the table. But you know,
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta try different things.
Speaker 6: You gotta you know, you gotta move, you gotta you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, like make things happen, and not
Speaker 6: be like afraid to like fall back for a second,
Speaker 6: Like I'm not afraid, Like I don't feel like, you know,
Speaker 6: if I if I make a song, it'll be like I.
Speaker 2: Never left as soon as after the record go off.
Speaker 3: Because N two D Yeah this movie, oh yeah, that
Speaker 3: was yeah, that was stuck pull Stick of the Nigga
Speaker 3: as Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Eight ball back Pocket. I didn't know you actually took.
Speaker 2: It's just eight ball to I'm sorry, I didn't know.
Speaker 2: You want to pull you win, you win that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you know, don't worry out.
Speaker 6: Don't worry out the videos, you know, the movies and
Speaker 6: so out.
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, no, it's all uncle.
Speaker 6: When it comes to the movies, I don't limit myself
Speaker 6: with the characters, whatever role it is. You know, I'm
Speaker 6: not above any roller blow, any roles. If I respond
Speaker 6: to the role and I feel like it's something good,
Speaker 6: I'll do it right now. Playing Sam Hannah on n C,
Speaker 6: I s little say Angel, this is a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: We're going into my next season. I know that you
Speaker 2: put your gun very professional that, but let me tell it.
Speaker 2: Can tell what you learned that? No, he talking about
Speaker 2: getting you at all?
Speaker 6: You know? Yeah, yeah, Now, I went down to like
Speaker 6: Camp Pendleton and trained with like the Marines and the
Speaker 6: Special Ops guys, the sailors down you know, hung out
Speaker 6: with a master gunnery sergeant from the Marines who taught
Speaker 6: me a lot. I went to SWAT school, you know,
Speaker 6: and did a lot of let's go back.
Speaker 3: To you stick the nigga and yeah, yeah hit him,
Speaker 3: yeah yeah he got the next question. Yeah, yeah, Well yeah,
Speaker 3: they sucked.
Speaker 2: Me up in real life. Yeah, him up and I
Speaker 2: knew you. I was good. But when down like, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god.
Speaker 5: He was like, oh yeah, you know that's a brutal scene.
Speaker 2: If you haven't seen it too deep, go check it out.
Speaker 2: It's a brutal scene. Is a brutal scene. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But going back to music real quick, you're one of
Speaker 1: the first New York artists to kind of be by
Speaker 1: coastal when you worked with Pooh l A Posse And
Speaker 1: how did that?
Speaker 6: I'm about basically what happened was, uh, you know at
Speaker 6: that time, you know, after my first album, Rick Rubin
Speaker 6: left def Jam, and uh, we were trying to figure
Speaker 6: out what my next move is gonna be because he
Speaker 6: produced my first album, the whole first album. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: we did the whole first album together. It was his
Speaker 6: first album to first full album.
Speaker 3: And so after that, he can't just say that it
Speaker 3: makes a note that.
Speaker 2: Makes Yeah.
Speaker 3: So after that, Volt Cameras, you gotta start clamming to
Speaker 3: clapping too. I understand filming, but listen, Volt Cameras, you
Speaker 3: gotta clap too.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you too, guy, all right, terrible, terrible, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: So now, so you know, uh, you know.
Speaker 6: I went and Russell had heard, you know, the L
Speaker 6: A Posse because they had made some records that he
Speaker 6: felt was in the zone to introduced me to him.
Speaker 6: I met Bobcat, big up to Bob, you know, yeah
Speaker 6: from l A L A L All.
Speaker 3: Wasn't on the radio who mine?
Speaker 6: My first album was Radio. My first song was I
Speaker 6: Need to Beat. My first song came out in nineteen
Speaker 6: eighty four.
Speaker 2: It was I Need to Beat.
Speaker 3: Then I had I was born in seventy seven. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well give them my child.
Speaker 6: Then the second one came out like eighty five. The
Speaker 6: album came out like eighty five, and then it went
Speaker 6: from there. But the second album came out around eighty seven.
Speaker 3: But the first albums on Death Jam.
Speaker 2: It was on death Jam. Yes, this is Cela Rock.
Speaker 6: It's Yours was on Death Jam Productions. It was an
Speaker 6: imprint on Street on Party Time. It was Party Time Records.
Speaker 6: It was Death Jam Productions. And Rick was having problems
Speaker 6: him and Russell have and problems getting the money from
Speaker 6: Party Time for the is Yours Records, so they decided
Speaker 6: to start their own label. And I was the flagship
Speaker 6: artist and we made the first album and I actually,
Speaker 6: you know, first regular, I know that I owned a
Speaker 6: piece of death Jam as well, and I sold it.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I sold it back to them. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: you didn't know that, yeah yeah.
Speaker 6: But the first record was radio radio on Rock the
Speaker 6: Bells radio.
Speaker 2: All of that was on first record. Yeah, and they
Speaker 2: went and.
Speaker 6: Got to deal with uh when got to deal with no,
Speaker 6: no, no CBS?
Speaker 3: CBS Yeah, Columbia, we got CBS right.
Speaker 2: Here in the building. CBS. Yeah. Yeah. You know, queens
Speaker 2: niggas get money with CBS. Oh yeah, certainly there's an
Speaker 2: answer to that.
Speaker 4: Ya.
Speaker 2: This is what I want.
Speaker 3: I want you to describe back in the days, because
Speaker 3: it was so rough walking down Jamaica as Oh god,
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, listen, people think it's rough walking
Speaker 3: to Jamaica ad in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: They have no idea what it was. He's in the nineties.
Speaker 2: Can you describe?
Speaker 6: It was like every any piece of clothing that you
Speaker 6: had on that was moldly, mildly or remotely valuable was
Speaker 6: like asking people to rob you.
Speaker 2: Like like if you.
Speaker 6: Had to be at Gazelles on you buy somebody, your
Speaker 6: gazelles would say to.
Speaker 2: Them, excuse me, because you take it.
Speaker 5: It was like the gazelles. We're talking if you had
Speaker 5: a sheepskin and be like, hey, get me rock please,
Speaker 5: he said, help me.
Speaker 2: Come on please.
Speaker 6: It was crazy, Yo, it's crazy, and listen crazy describe
Speaker 6: to people.
Speaker 2: Listen, let me describe to people.
Speaker 3: Because one day Nas just told me, he said, one
Speaker 3: day me and is just kicking it, be talking and nah,
Speaker 3: I said, And he came to.
Speaker 2: Left Rack and he's like, he came to left Rack.
Speaker 3: He was like, I can't believe the amount of respect
Speaker 3: that nobody don't bother you here.
Speaker 2: And I was like, this is my hood, he said.
Speaker 2: Do you imagine what l L went through those days?
Speaker 2: Mind you, we had no fact. But remember remember I.
Speaker 6: You know, you know I was hanging with you know,
Speaker 6: the guys I was hanging with you.
Speaker 2: I wasn't really having a lot of problems like you
Speaker 2: knows right, yeah, you know, you know I was.
Speaker 6: I was with guys that were so official and thorough
Speaker 6: in the street that you know, you know, I mean, I.
Speaker 2: Wasn't having those issues, you know.
Speaker 6: And and I wasn't looking for me either, because you
Speaker 6: know what I've learned, I don't I never, I never
Speaker 6: in my life have tried to be a tough guy.
Speaker 6: And I never hung around gangsters and tried to act
Speaker 6: like I was one, because that's how you get yourself
Speaker 6: in trouble. Just be who you are, be yourself, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. And so I never had a
Speaker 6: lot of issues. I had a few fights, you know,
Speaker 6: I grew up fighting. You know, I wasn't, you know,
Speaker 6: having a shootout.
Speaker 2: We could tell you a couple of down we knew
Speaker 2: you could fight, you know, a couple of people.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I had to come doune moments.
Speaker 6: I tell you a funny story when a little kid
Speaker 6: just a little mischief. So when I was a little kid,
Speaker 6: you know, when it was snow outside, we decided it
Speaker 6: was a good idea, you know, take like no, no, no,
Speaker 6: to take rocks and cinder blocks and cover them with
Speaker 6: snow and then throw them at cars.
Speaker 5: Like don't ask me why we thought this was a
Speaker 5: good idea, right breaking, you know what.
Speaker 6: So one day, so one day I'm in my grandmother's yard.
Speaker 6: Not to throw a god damn big ass rock with
Speaker 6: snow around it, because you know the car is not
Speaker 6: gonna stop. They say, oh, look at the little kids
Speaker 6: with snowballs and They're like, sh right, why didn't yo?
Speaker 2: We were so we was in there.
Speaker 6: A man came around the corner and I was looking
Speaker 6: over there and I seen the window roll down like that.
Speaker 6: All I see was a little flash, and like you
Speaker 6: all was running. I hit behind a snow mound. Did
Speaker 6: you hear me?
Speaker 2: A snow man?
Speaker 6: Snow bullets got snow man. And then I like ran
Speaker 6: fell down at the basement.
Speaker 2: Yes, he was soon flashing lights. Was the gun going off?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Flashing light lights?
Speaker 2: You know the lights lights?
Speaker 6: And I'm like rant and you know how to Queen's
Speaker 6: the basement windows got that that? I don't know what
Speaker 6: you know, it's like a you know, it's like a
Speaker 6: thing down in the house for the so you can
Speaker 6: open the basement windows. I found out there. Tore my
Speaker 6: ankles up and all that. So I had a little
Speaker 6: mischief in my life a little bit, but for the
Speaker 6: most part, I stayed out of trouble, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean.
Speaker 3: And I'm sorry to bring this up, but I have
Speaker 3: to bring it up. We're always managed by violator management.
Speaker 3: We all was under the tutors. I don't know if
Speaker 3: that's a word, but you know what I mean it
Speaker 3: is of Chris. Lady, I asked fifty cent this, I asked,
Speaker 3: all violator are that's when they come on here?
Speaker 2: Like because it affected me.
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I love Chris deeply, and his
Speaker 6: daughter Tiffany is a good differend of my kids, and
Speaker 6: she's at the house all the time, and uh, you know,
Speaker 6: she hangs with my wife and hangs with the kids
Speaker 6: and all that. First of all, Chris and my relationship
Speaker 6: was a little different from probably yours in fifties because
Speaker 6: Chris got in the business after me, so we had
Speaker 6: a different You was already an yeah, yeah, I was already.
Speaker 6: So you know, we had a different type of relationship,
Speaker 6: you know, and you know we were friends, right and
Speaker 6: we were you know, I looked at you know, we
Speaker 6: looked at each other's counterparts. And he managed me. He
Speaker 6: did he made a lot of things for me. But
Speaker 6: our relationship, you know, was what you think, all right,
Speaker 6: what you think, Let's get axt let's get wild, like
Speaker 6: I remember when he was interning at Death Jam and
Speaker 6: stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But the thing I remember most about Chris.
Speaker 6: Is that he was a really really, really really smart
Speaker 6: guy and he was a good dude. Right, and he
Speaker 6: wasn't soft like I remember Chris used to let me
Speaker 6: in the tunnel when he was a bodyguard at the tunnel.
Speaker 2: Christ used to do security. Christian to do security tunnel
Speaker 2: and he would be outside. I heard he was running
Speaker 2: the tunnel. Heard his security. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He
Speaker 2: he was christ Christmas.
Speaker 6: Chris was you know, he may have been involved in
Speaker 6: the business aspects too. But when I seen Chris, he
Speaker 6: had a bulletproof vessel on outside the front door, like yo,
Speaker 6: And I like this.
Speaker 14: Man, mister man, come on in, YO. Know he's like
Speaker 14: a good fella. You know, he was a gagster, you know, Christmas.
Speaker 14: It was a real guy. I'm glad I met him
Speaker 14: later he was Yo, I'm telling you.
Speaker 6: And but I mean all of your all of the
Speaker 6: people you know, like I'll tell you just to switch
Speaker 6: gears for a minute.
Speaker 2: Like Leo. The first time I met Leo. Leo was
Speaker 2: a promoter in l A.
Speaker 6: And when I met him, he came to pick me
Speaker 6: up from the airport because I had a show.
Speaker 3: Where he was a promoter and promoter Angels.
Speaker 2: When you say l A Los Angeles, Los Angeles.
Speaker 6: And the driver's daughter didn't open. I mean the passenger
Speaker 6: daughter and opened you had to get in the call
Speaker 6: through the driver's side, both of us, and we drove
Speaker 6: and he was telling me how we're going to change
Speaker 6: hip hop and let.
Speaker 2: Me tell you something.
Speaker 6: He was prophetic though, because everything he talked about came true.
Speaker 6: But he was very much you know, I mean, this
Speaker 6: was a guy that was walking around with you know,
Speaker 6: no lasers in the sneakers, you know, behind like chasing
Speaker 6: behind jam as to Jay joint in his mouth, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. Like he was a real like
Speaker 6: like he wasn't this the corporate titan that he ultimately became.
Speaker 6: But I always had respect for him because Leo is
Speaker 6: the one who made the deal. See, I owned my
Speaker 6: whole catalog. You still own I didn't, but I owned
Speaker 6: it ultimately with my deal. You know, when I got
Speaker 6: to a certain position with death Jam, I did a
Speaker 6: deal with I owned my catalog, right. Leo is the
Speaker 6: one that did that deal. So I have to always
Speaker 6: respect Leo for that because you know, he and have
Speaker 6: to do it. They were trying to figure out how
Speaker 6: to make a deal that was rich enough for me
Speaker 6: to want to stay, and you know, at the same
Speaker 6: time they wanted to come up to a certain number,
Speaker 6: but not go beyond that. So you know, I said, well,
Speaker 6: you know, give a catalog, and they said, okay, we
Speaker 6: work that out and we got the catalog. So deaf
Speaker 6: Jam has a really small interest in my catalog.
Speaker 2: I own it. And so when you hear llll cool.
Speaker 6: All that, when you hear ll Cali, yeah yeah, Mama said, yeah.
Speaker 6: You know, so when you hear my records and movies
Speaker 6: and on TV and stuff, I've licensed that.
Speaker 2: You know, anytime you hear llll cool j song, llll
Speaker 2: has licensed it. That's another goal I'm going to take
Speaker 2: after you. Yeah, I took I took the white Ship.
Speaker 2: It worked. But let me tell you so, let me be,
Speaker 2: let me be transparent. The reason the reason I'm sharing this.
Speaker 6: Is because I don't think the hip hop community understands
Speaker 6: a lot of the things that you know, I've been
Speaker 6: doing one in my career. I think that it's been
Speaker 6: kind of a mystery. And I never was a guy
Speaker 6: that like asked my publicists to get me in Forbes.
Speaker 6: I've never been the guy who really went out of
Speaker 6: his way to try to market myself as smart. And
Speaker 6: I just never did that because I came from all
Speaker 6: of a pure place of just wanting to rock the mic,
Speaker 6: you know, And it was never like I give you
Speaker 6: another thing, Like there was this whole rumor back in
Speaker 6: the days that ll cool J, you know, he's upset
Speaker 6: because he didn't become the president of Death Jam, which
Speaker 6: is can I can I just say something like I
Speaker 6: can't even describe to you how ultimately and utterly ridiculous
Speaker 6: that is. And let me explain to you why why
Speaker 6: would it look I wanted you to be there?
Speaker 2: Did Michael Jackson want to be the president of Motown?
Speaker 3: Like I ain't confronted.
Speaker 2: I don't relate to Michael. I didn't. I never wanted that.
Speaker 2: I wanted to make music, see but.
Speaker 3: I wanted to get a budget from you.
Speaker 6: Maybe the thing is I just always I just wanted
Speaker 6: to be an artist, nory, Like I'm not ashamed of
Speaker 6: being a rapper, like I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't need to. I don't need to convince you.
Speaker 6: That I'm more than a rapper, Like I'm okay with that.
Speaker 6: So when that's all I want to all I want
Speaker 6: to do is be a rapper and be the best rapper, Like.
Speaker 2: That's what I grew up going to do. So let
Speaker 2: me ask you something, right.
Speaker 3: Right, when you hear stories like Lil Wayne, right where
Speaker 3: Lil Wayne is getting maybe taken advantage of it, we
Speaker 3: don't really know.
Speaker 2: Ye we already do what we see. There's nothing, you
Speaker 2: know what, Let me tell you something.
Speaker 6: There's nothing that Lil Wayne did wrong, and I'll tell
Speaker 6: you why. I'll tell you why because, like I told you,
Speaker 6: I own my catalog and I tell you that ultimately
Speaker 6: I got a great deal. But you know what, if
Speaker 6: Russell was the worst person in the world, he could
Speaker 6: have easily taken advantage of me. He could have easily
Speaker 6: gave me one of those bozo deals that you hear
Speaker 6: nightmares about.
Speaker 2: But you know what, Russell wasn't that kind of guy.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, early on we did my publishing
Speaker 6: fifty fifty. Ultimately I got all my publishing back, of course,
Speaker 6: but early on it was like that.
Speaker 2: But even then with my first contract, he only went
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty. He didn't take it all. So so
Speaker 2: a lot of that.
Speaker 6: A lot of times when you hear about guys with
Speaker 6: bad deals, that says more about the executives that they
Speaker 6: were dealing with than the actual artists.
Speaker 2: It's not about them being dumb. It's not about them being.
Speaker 6: Dumb, because, you know what, some guys I give them credit,
Speaker 6: like some of the guys you know, like I told
Speaker 6: you I hung around a lot of street guys, but
Speaker 6: I wasn't. That's not who I was, right, I wasn't
Speaker 6: a hustling personally. Those were just my friends. But so
Speaker 6: some guys who are actually hustlers and hustlers and actually
Speaker 6: had that life, they get to benefit from all the
Speaker 6: experiences that they had hustling, so when they come into
Speaker 6: the game, they're able to make better deals earlier. But
Speaker 6: some of us, because we weren't hustlersm because we didn't experience.
Speaker 2: You know, getting cheated and screwed and scammed. We didn't.
Speaker 2: We were just innocent kids rapping.
Speaker 6: May have been from a rough community, but we were
Speaker 6: really just innocent kids who loved the rhyming.
Speaker 2: So when you go in and you sign your deal,
Speaker 2: it's not the greatest deal in the world because you're
Speaker 2: just excited to be there.
Speaker 6: Then you don't have that maturity and that grit and
Speaker 6: that you know, that grizzle that allows you to you know,
Speaker 6: make a better deal early. So some of these guys
Speaker 6: did benefit. There were benefits for some of them. Some benefited,
Speaker 6: some didn't. But I don't blame any of these younger artists.
Speaker 2: You know. Now, what I would say.
Speaker 6: Is that now with the Internet, because the Internet wasn't
Speaker 6: what it was, well, there's access to information. You have
Speaker 6: information out there, so you got to want the information.
Speaker 6: You got to want to make a great deal. Do
Speaker 6: you want to make a great deal? Are you patient?
Speaker 6: Do you have the bulls to say no? Because are
Speaker 6: you comfortable saying no?
Speaker 3: That was the crazy thing is when when def Jam
Speaker 3: we got theyself together, I asked them like, are you
Speaker 3: bringing back l And they never asked them my question.
Speaker 3: Well they do. But you know, to be to be
Speaker 3: fans of your death Jam is Leon Kevin Russell Simmons,
Speaker 3: I'm asking now what.
Speaker 2: It is is that you know?
Speaker 6: Look, you know, when you're young and you don't know
Speaker 6: how to play the political game, you rup you can
Speaker 6: rub people.
Speaker 2: The wrong way.
Speaker 3: Like you are the Death Jam, But you didn't rub
Speaker 3: nobody wrong.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, But you can't.
Speaker 6: Like what I'm saying basically is that man like you know,
Speaker 6: nobody's perfect.
Speaker 2: Man, I don't you know.
Speaker 6: I don't begrudge those guys nothing, because you know the
Speaker 6: resistance that I you know, you know, pressure makes diamonds, man,
Speaker 6: you know, it could bust pikes, but it makes diamonds.
Speaker 6: So the resistance that that I felt and the little
Speaker 6: things that they did just encouraged me to go out
Speaker 6: there and do something greater.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Oh, now, if I drink another bottle of rolls, you
Speaker 6: know we might fly to Queens.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest, yo, I have never been a
Speaker 3: man more than I was the man when I had
Speaker 3: you come to my hood. Now, I had you listen
Speaker 3: this day. I had Cameron come to my hood. I
Speaker 3: had Jim Jones come to my hood. I had run
Speaker 3: DMC come to my hood. I had everybody come to
Speaker 3: my hood. But the one thing that everybody said was like,
Speaker 3: we're not going inside. L was the only person said
Speaker 3: I'm going inside.
Speaker 2: And I'm looking at you like you sure you said
Speaker 2: you said, I'm with you.
Speaker 3: I'm good people, But I still feel like you don't
Speaker 3: feel like you don't really realize.
Speaker 2: No, No, let me give you a promise because I
Speaker 2: have to do it.
Speaker 3: I still don't feel like you've realized how much that
Speaker 3: you meant to people in Queens. Now, if my partner's
Speaker 3: from Miami, he's born in la he might have a
Speaker 3: whole totally different thing. But for us in Queens, there
Speaker 3: was no other nigga that we wanted to be. I mean, nas,
Speaker 3: I mean, I remember one time me and Fat Joe
Speaker 3: we had an hour and a half conversation.
Speaker 2: Or who means more to him? L L to him
Speaker 2: or to me? That beautiful.
Speaker 6: That's the first time I felna fight.
Speaker 3: I said, Fat Joe, you can't claim l you from
Speaker 3: the Bronx last you gotta stop.
Speaker 2: I love Joe? Was like, what, I love Default.
Speaker 3: You don't love him as much as I love him,
Speaker 3: but Default and he just didn't like I'm talking about
Speaker 3: we seriously arguing.
Speaker 2: I felt that this argument happened six times.
Speaker 6: That's crazy and it's a blessing.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 3: That's That's how real hit. This is what Drink Champs
Speaker 3: is about. I don't know if you know, L Drink
Speaker 3: Champions is about giving the stars flowers when they could
Speaker 3: smell them, and give them trees when they could inhale them. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because every other genre, every other music, when these people
Speaker 3: become icons of classics, they support them. Why doesn't hip
Speaker 3: hop have that platform?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, L yeah, you're doing this. You're doing it.
Speaker 2: You aren't doing it. God damn it. Five get smarter
Speaker 2: than me. You get smarter than me, don't you listen?
Speaker 2: L cool J can the Left Right City. And I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be honest.
Speaker 3: I was so embarrassed because I was like, I was like, yo,
Speaker 3: you know what you need to walk through?
Speaker 2: You walk through.
Speaker 3: I was like, I hope a crackheadn't pee and it.
Speaker 2: Was mad and I'm looking at him. I'm like, this
Speaker 2: niggas gonna leave. Well he didn't smell the.
Speaker 10: P he didn't see the being that I don't know.
Speaker 3: But not only that, you not only filmed the video,
Speaker 3: you actually came and chilled and compones Van Fantastic and
Speaker 3: we started watching I remember, and you actually like people
Speaker 3: got to really understand how cool because you know why
Speaker 3: we put you on a pedestal in Queens and we
Speaker 3: should you deserve that pedestal and you should stay in
Speaker 3: that pedestal. But at the same time, people should understand
Speaker 3: how cool you are, how down the earth you are,
Speaker 3: how how you you'll say anybody you.
Speaker 6: Know what, man, even no matter what I'm doing in
Speaker 6: my life, you know, I always tell people, you know,
Speaker 6: I'm in Hollywood, but I never went Hollywood.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And you know, keep talking
Speaker 2: like what happened? You take the cameras he's taking. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I talked to so you know that was the thing.
Speaker 2: You know, this is a funny moment, right man, But
Speaker 2: you know that was the thing. You know, that was
Speaker 2: the thing for you. You know what I'm saying. Whatever
Speaker 2: happened to cut creator? Man, See, I'm gonna take the
Speaker 2: DJ opportunity. Yeah, No, Jay J. Phil Potter is my man.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: We just I just felt like creatively, I wanted to
Speaker 6: stretch a little bit and try some new things. But
Speaker 6: that he's always my friend. He's still my friend. We
Speaker 6: speak and he does like Tom Joyner, he does.
Speaker 10: Different cruise, he does different parties.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. He's work, Yeah, yeah, he's
Speaker 2: still working. You know.
Speaker 6: But I've been using z trip you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: And Z Trip have been you know, DJ Z Trip
Speaker 6: has been DJing for me for.
Speaker 2: Damn featuring the toilet Man. That was crazy. Remind me
Speaker 2: the five heart beats or some ship toilet flushing and
Speaker 2: all that.
Speaker 6: But now he's good. I'm with z Trip for about
Speaker 6: almost ten years. Yeah, yeah, that's my man. Now I'm
Speaker 6: saying that's been like a vibe.
Speaker 3: Listen, I'm gonna be honest. When you walk through my hood.
Speaker 2: This guy went to hop and come right back on
Speaker 2: it like that's what you do. That's that's how it happens.
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I wish my nephew was here.
Speaker 2: You got to relax. I was talking about you in theory.
Speaker 2: That's my naw. Look here yo, here ya holdie. In
Speaker 2: the video, I was talking about you in theory. I
Speaker 2: didn't know it was. Yeah, but it meant so much
Speaker 2: to our hood. It meant so much of.
Speaker 3: Our neighborhood when you came out. Because we've been to Farmers.
Speaker 3: We understand what Farmers is, the red block, the red,
Speaker 3: black and green rock. How crazy Farmers Boulevard is like
Speaker 3: from back then. See, a lot of people aren't like
Speaker 3: Farmers is almost gentified now almost a little bit.
Speaker 2: You got old fools. You gotta hold listen. No, no,
Speaker 2: they still got to you know.
Speaker 6: Nah, hell no, they might have old fools over there,
Speaker 6: but it ain't. It ain't gentrified once you got a
Speaker 6: old fools. I don't think it's a whole fools over there.
Speaker 3: I feel like you gotta juice ball once, you gotta
Speaker 3: juice balls over.
Speaker 2: Not that Jamaican's is running it.
Speaker 12: That was.
Speaker 6: Jamaican fruits and juices. That's a dreads now, queasy. Now,
Speaker 6: Farmers ain't gentrified. But you know it's a beautiful community.
Speaker 6: It may not people may have may not have a
Speaker 6: lot of a lot of money, but they got a
Speaker 6: lot of dignity and they want to you know, they
Speaker 6: want to make something better for their families and they
Speaker 6: want to have a life, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And that you got a melting pot of people.
Speaker 6: You got Haitians, you got Jamaicans, you got Dominicans, you
Speaker 6: got you know, people you know from all different you know,
Speaker 6: just like all in that community.
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful. I think it's a beautiful place. You know. Well,
Speaker 2: my friend Steph, Steph is from Farmers, right.
Speaker 6: Okay, can we ask him if there's a whole Foods
Speaker 6: because I'm really not sure.
Speaker 2: No, he's crazy, he's taking mad. I can't even talk.
Speaker 2: But I love him. I went to I.
Speaker 6: Went to my people was like, oh my god, why
Speaker 6: are you going there?
Speaker 3: But Stepp is from Farmers Boulevard. So I used to
Speaker 3: go to Farmers Boulevard. I used to sit on the rock,
Speaker 3: the black I just sit on it as a chat
Speaker 3: Oh that's crazy as a chad. But this then then
Speaker 3: you came out and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: I got killed.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that area now it's you know that area has
Speaker 6: been some it's definitely it's like all any other. No, no, no,
Speaker 6: that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2: Want one shot, you know? He said to me shots
Speaker 2: would listen? I would you take care? Fifty took ninety
Speaker 2: he took more than that. How many cel city actually
Speaker 2: take one of or the five? Five? Okay?
Speaker 3: He taking one?
Speaker 2: Fifty took five shots? Is crazy? Fifty seves at the ball?
Speaker 2: How many shot city takes me? Thank you out man?
Speaker 2: Now fell together the way you wanted to hear, Big
Speaker 2: you up, because he got big up to fifth. That's
Speaker 2: my man. That's my man.
Speaker 3: But I don't drink though, I don't drink like that.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 6: I drink occasionally, but now I don't drink like that occasions.
Speaker 6: What you like, he's drink Champs. I'm in a podcast
Speaker 6: called drink Champs. How can I sit here and drink?
Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm gonna city and drink all right, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Let met some more champagne. You
Speaker 2: want to good, I'm good. You got to take a
Speaker 2: shot this more.
Speaker 6: Already we had to pay a presson talking God drink
Speaker 6: the house.
Speaker 2: We had carrossid we had had a million. Carros had
Speaker 2: a million times. I can't lie had a million.
Speaker 3: Let's go back to cannabis because I just want to.
Speaker 3: I just want you to. I just want you to
Speaker 3: understand how you destroyed a man's career.
Speaker 2: But it was dope. I mean, but he can't eat.
Speaker 2: I brought him out at the Barclay Center when I
Speaker 2: did the.
Speaker 6: Concert, and yeah, but he's already broke. But put my
Speaker 6: mom around him and brought him out there.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 3: I feel like it was too late.
Speaker 2: You crushed him, too late, too late. Baby.
Speaker 3: But in your mind, in your mind, you said, I
Speaker 3: gotta crush this little nigga.
Speaker 2: But why did you do that?
Speaker 3: Because you know why, I was defending myself because he
Speaker 3: was he was he was like computer literate at this
Speaker 3: time when nobody else he was the only nigga writ
Speaker 3: in rhymes on a computer and I had a session
Speaker 3: with him. I said, what is he doing? He wrote
Speaker 3: up round Gonna Caele. I didn't like it personally, but
Speaker 3: you you acted on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you ain't like it.
Speaker 7: I'm not.
Speaker 2: How far form being petty? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: I got some petty pills. I take a petty pill
Speaker 2: every now and take petty pill. You take a petty
Speaker 2: pill every now and take a petty pill every day,
Speaker 2: not every day.
Speaker 6: I don't take it every day, you know, I try
Speaker 6: to do my you know, they go, they go low,
Speaker 6: I go.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna send lady in the petty bills, the petty
Speaker 2: pills just in case. It's definitely a little you go
Speaker 2: out with that. I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it to Claudy behind because.
Speaker 6: I wish, I wish hold me the best though. You know,
Speaker 6: I don't want to see anybody have.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying, because you know, some people they don't
Speaker 3: understand that when you crush a person's career like you
Speaker 3: actually crushed their life.
Speaker 2: Do you are you ever like?
Speaker 3: Because you know, Cood has never had a hit record
Speaker 3: since you you slaughtered him.
Speaker 2: Why why? Why? Why? Why? He never had a hit
Speaker 2: record after you dissed them.
Speaker 3: I'm just throwing that's awful.
Speaker 6: You know, man, listen, man about his decisions. You got
Speaker 6: to make your own decisions. He got to make decisions decisions.
Speaker 6: You know, you get you know, you get to the crossroads.
Speaker 6: You got to pick right or left?
Speaker 3: O you crush these people career? Can you say something
Speaker 3: nice for them?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 12: No, not.
Speaker 3: Nice, but say something the reason why? Because why did
Speaker 3: I do what I did?
Speaker 2: Because very simple.
Speaker 6: Please, I'm making me I make it very easy for you.
Speaker 6: My thing is this, you know, this was my feeling.
Speaker 6: My feeling is you know, I have a fan base.
Speaker 6: I have people that you know, look to me and
Speaker 6: enjoy my music and celebrate my art. If you come
Speaker 6: out talking about, you know, me in the foul way
Speaker 6: and trying to undermine me, you're trying to get in
Speaker 6: my pocket and you stepping on my toes and you're
Speaker 6: in the way, and I got to get you out
Speaker 6: of the way immediately.
Speaker 2: That that was my thinking on it.
Speaker 3: And Mama said, not you out at a minimum?
Speaker 12: A minimum listen, listen, Oh God, could be your story.
Speaker 12: I'm that was That was it.
Speaker 3: That was it, and and and but Cannabis. I just
Speaker 3: felt like no, because you know what, I noticed my
Speaker 3: nephew that relax.
Speaker 2: Why you tapping me?
Speaker 3: I want to ask him sound, ask him sounds to
Speaker 3: fight itself with Jamie Fox, Like.
Speaker 2: Any given Sunday, I've seen that. I seen that movie yesterday.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 3: This is why God is good time. I'm I can't
Speaker 3: sleep because you know what, I still listen, Petty.
Speaker 2: Pills, just keep you up. I can't Petty, I can't sleep.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you listen.
Speaker 3: Whenever I interview an artist, I want to give them
Speaker 3: the most respect ever, because because hip hop should be
Speaker 3: a celebration. And I sat down with Leo Combs the
Speaker 3: other day and he said, the reason why you're winning.
Speaker 11: Because sibration this is going to be.
Speaker 2: You are actually celebrating it. It's a world.
Speaker 3: Don't look at I'm looking right and then and again
Speaker 3: it's Sunday is on my TV. So I look at
Speaker 3: it and in mind you, I forgot I had did
Speaker 3: like two or three songs for it.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh, my Visitior.
Speaker 3: But then I'm looking and I'm like damn. And then
Speaker 3: when you and Jamie Fox actually interacted and me hearing
Speaker 3: the rumors, I'm actually looking at it like.
Speaker 2: This is great cinema. This is a really great cinema,
Speaker 2: Like this is actually now I'll tell you what happened,
Speaker 2: tell us what happened. We don't know what really happened.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 6: The real story is that I am you know, when
Speaker 6: we were doing the scene, you know, I think you know, Jamie,
Speaker 6: although he was experienced to someone, he was still a
Speaker 6: little green. I wasn't quite as green, but I was
Speaker 6: green too, and you know, you know, meaning inexperience, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. So we were doing the scene,
Speaker 6: I was being aggressive and I was like, yo, you
Speaker 6: got but this is character to character.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, you gotta.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm seeing that we're talking about.
Speaker 2: What he did something like that. I did a huddle
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yo, you gotta. And I'm slack.
Speaker 6: But his shoulders and this and that and you know,
Speaker 6: but yeah, okay, but he's got equipment on it. It's
Speaker 6: not like, you know, we're not in the pool. You know,
Speaker 6: he's got a quickment on you know, yo, yo yo.
Speaker 6: So he got upset and he's like, yo, you know,
Speaker 6: it's not being so rough with me. So I was like,
Speaker 6: you know, that didn't compute.
Speaker 2: So we came.
Speaker 6: So we did another take and I was rough with
Speaker 6: him again. And then you know, I don't know why,
Speaker 6: but you know, he thought it was a good idea
Speaker 6: to puns me in my face.
Speaker 2: Not in the script. No, it wasn't the script. No,
Speaker 2: this wasn't scripted. No, no, no, you're not keeping the honey
Speaker 2: with you. You want me to keep it, honey, keep
Speaker 2: it honey. He punched me. He pushed me in my face.
Speaker 2: So I looked at him. After he pussed me my face,
Speaker 2: I said, what do you do that? You looked that up? Yeah,
Speaker 2: pushed me in the face and looked at him. I said,
Speaker 2: I would you know what I said, I feel like
Speaker 2: like that. I said it like that. I could not quite.
Speaker 2: I looked I was a little tight. I was tight.
Speaker 2: You know, I was giving him tight. I was tight.
Speaker 2: I was giving him I'm like, looked at him. I said,
Speaker 2: what'd you do that?
Speaker 6: He said, look and he like was turned to the side.
Speaker 6: He had his helmet on. He had his helmet on,
Speaker 6: he was turned.
Speaker 2: To the side. He said, I told you before, don't
Speaker 2: put your hands on me period.
Speaker 8: So yo.
Speaker 6: When he said that, my left hand grabbed a face
Speaker 6: mask and as I was pulling this helmet.
Speaker 2: Off, my right hand was.
Speaker 10: Punching his ship, you know, like you know what I'm saying, queen.
Speaker 10: And then you know, he was laying there and I
Speaker 10: was like, I thought he's faking because he was sleep. No,
Speaker 10: that's not what they Then the whole team jumped on.
Speaker 2: Me, right, so they wrestled me down, you know, the
Speaker 2: whole team bring it up.
Speaker 6: So so so I'm under the huddle and I'm like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: and then somebody tries to reach in and like give
Speaker 6: me a little eye gall did that right? So oh
Speaker 6: yeah that was but not a good idea because I
Speaker 6: turned my head to the side and went he caught
Speaker 6: his head and.
Speaker 5: I just like, that's the three with the whole m
Speaker 5: m A thing. Yeah, you're gonna give me a leg lock.
Speaker 5: I'm biting you a sophagishole like all that leg locks it.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna bite your throat off me.
Speaker 12: Like we go.
Speaker 2: We got to get it in like this ain't the
Speaker 2: rules is out her to the side and he pulled his.
Speaker 6: Hand out the thing and then they finally broke it
Speaker 6: up and then and then, but but since then, me
Speaker 6: and Jamie got cool and we.
Speaker 2: Haven't laughed about it. I heard we have laughed about it.
Speaker 2: We made songs together like cool. So I don't I'm
Speaker 2: not telling the story now, but you know what it is.
Speaker 2: It's just you know, but you know, Oliver's crazy, Oliver Stone.
Speaker 3: He had Yeah, he was the dressed action the guy
Speaker 3: that's actually the sports announcer and given he's actually yes,
Speaker 3: that's in there and I'm leaving, he's.
Speaker 2: Like, he's who wrote scarf fake face so tune. You know,
Speaker 2: he's amazing. So you know, it was just a funny time,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But you know that was the thing.
Speaker 6: You know, It's just you know, Jamie, you know, he
Speaker 6: just got off, you know, he was he was on
Speaker 6: this Willie Beamon and I couldn't take it and all that.
Speaker 6: But like, you know, you know, you know, you know,
Speaker 6: and under the right circumstances, you might let a punch slot.
Speaker 2: You might.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know it's not impossible. Now, everybody's not
Speaker 6: a straight murderer all the time.
Speaker 2: Dude hits you.
Speaker 6: Under the right circumstances, you be like if you would
Speaker 6: have said to me like, you know, you know, I
Speaker 6: just and I'd have been like, you know, I don't
Speaker 6: even know if I could have took it.
Speaker 2: Then I take that back. I could have took it,
Speaker 2: I couldn't take I.
Speaker 3: Couldn't handle that ship because you didn't handle it.
Speaker 6: You drove me as saying I would have been waking
Speaker 6: up in the middle of the night just like you
Speaker 6: played me like I just couldn't take it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: So because you even beat niggas up who broke in
Speaker 3: your house, the niggas that broke in your house, you
Speaker 3: pounded them out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't want to That's that's a rough one
Speaker 6: because the difference with that is that that wasn't funny
Speaker 6: because I was terrified.
Speaker 3: Oh world, will of course.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, man, if it's one in the morning,
Speaker 2: you know, and you come down.
Speaker 6: From this is Kelly, why I gotta show you your
Speaker 6: segues on the questions.
Speaker 2: You're very smooth and it's very expective. It's a very
Speaker 2: smooth and subtle. It's a nice thing.
Speaker 5: You do it because you hook a scene, you get
Speaker 5: nice your baby, you set it up, you see it
Speaker 5: up and the next thing you know we're gonna talking.
Speaker 2: It's money, Kelly. That's good. That's good. That's good. Attorney,
Speaker 2: that's good. That's good. That's good.
Speaker 5: That is good to me.
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, very smooth, I'm so sorry. It was amazing,
Speaker 2: Like it was like it was wonderful to watch, you know,
Speaker 2: that was that was crazy at me too.
Speaker 6: But now when the dude broke in my house, the
Speaker 6: difference is that, you know, I had fights growing up,
Speaker 6: and we've all all of us. I'm sure everybody in
Speaker 6: this room had fights in the hood and different things,
Speaker 6: you scraps or whatever, But but how many of us
Speaker 6: have really for our lives.
Speaker 2: Maybe dudes in jail you might get that feeling. You know,
Speaker 2: you did a big you feel like you're fighting for
Speaker 2: your life, fighting.
Speaker 6: For your life, doesn't it's not the same funny feeling
Speaker 6: like fighting like in the whole just.
Speaker 2: You know, let's get it, let's get it.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I'm like, I'm really scary anything.
Speaker 2: This is a for keeps. You know, I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: it in like whatever. Only read it on TM.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was idea And so it was one in
Speaker 6: the morning, and uh, you know, the the alarm pad
Speaker 6: went off, but it's you know, how you have an alarm,
Speaker 6: and like for those of who have an alarm, it'll
Speaker 6: give you a minute to put your colt in, it'll
Speaker 6: go and you have to turn your alarm off. Well
Speaker 6: mine just went, and so I went to the keypad
Speaker 6: some on sleep and I'm looking at the keypad. I'm like,
Speaker 6: family room. And she said family room, wasn't it.
Speaker 3: And so I'm thinking, you mean when telling you.
Speaker 2: With a default is the default?
Speaker 6: I think that's the word. So you know, you know,
Speaker 6: I'm in my draws this one in the morning, so
Speaker 6: I just say, you know what I'm thinking. It's like
Speaker 6: my daughter sneaking in, you know, I don't know she
Speaker 6: come in. And with that, I'm like, oh, don yeah,
Speaker 6: me go down here.
Speaker 2: And see what's happening. So I'm just walking downstairs my draws.
Speaker 6: I turned the alarm off, walk downstairs, come down, And
Speaker 6: when I was going towards the kitchen, he's coming out
Speaker 6: of the kitchen and then we face the face.
Speaker 2: And he's got all black on, he's got a.
Speaker 6: Big bag, he's got the man the lawn mant in
Speaker 6: big boots, you know, and he's looking.
Speaker 2: At hussy black. No, he's white. He's a white dude.
Speaker 2: Oh you you pounded him out. I mean, oh god,
Speaker 2: oh god, let's let's go there. Oh god, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know fine, like it was freaky. It was freaky.
Speaker 5: I think, you know, stupid mother, stupid mother, stupid mother,
Speaker 5: stupid mother, mother, stupid mother that you have, stupid mother,
Speaker 5: stupid everything you get, every stupid mother you get.
Speaker 2: Driver but everywhere.
Speaker 6: And I was like, you know, and then I you know,
Speaker 6: I got him down, and then it took the police
Speaker 6: about you skipped.
Speaker 2: You got him down. I don't want to, but we
Speaker 2: rock for a minute. And you hit him with that cross.
Speaker 6: And when you got your draws on, that's some real like,
Speaker 6: that's some real gorilla, like the grilla.
Speaker 2: I feel like you like for the old school dudes.
Speaker 5: I feel like penite. You know, my draws all the ship.
Speaker 5: You know, No, it's like melhe I'm swinging and rooting.
Speaker 3: It's like it's made so mund you walking downstairs.
Speaker 2: You don't you don't know, you think yo, yo, you
Speaker 2: and your draws everything. I don't care.
Speaker 6: You in your drawers in your house, going to get
Speaker 6: some juice, drinking out the juice.
Speaker 5: But that nobody knows you drink out of and the
Speaker 5: same one you gift all your guests.
Speaker 15: Nobody knows if you tear that. You know, you know,
Speaker 15: you know, And I just went down in their homes,
Speaker 15: came out of nowhere and it was just like, you know,
Speaker 15: it was tiring.
Speaker 6: He was like, I was like, and it's just you know,
Speaker 6: we just had the rock like now and then you know,
Speaker 6: and the pro I'll tell you the deepest thing though,
Speaker 6: you know, this is the part that's not fun even,
Speaker 6: is that there was a point when I had to
Speaker 6: decide whether or not he should stay alive. You and
Speaker 6: him know, when I had him some dude, because I
Speaker 6: didn't if he had anyone else with him.
Speaker 3: Some dude.
Speaker 6: When I had him, when I had control of the situation,
Speaker 6: when I had him on the ground, on his back,
Speaker 6: on his stomach, finished and you know, laying there, I
Speaker 6: had to make that decision because I didn't know if
Speaker 6: he had someone upstairs. You know, I didn't know if
Speaker 6: people were coming from so I had to think I
Speaker 6: didn't have rope available, like I'm not playing.
Speaker 2: Like you know, ll Max and.
Speaker 6: Rope around the house and just in case I have
Speaker 6: to tire up somebody, you know.
Speaker 2: So I'm like looking at the dude, and I had
Speaker 2: to make a decision, you.
Speaker 6: Know, you know, and I credit I credit someone because
Speaker 6: she's like just just just wait the gouds.
Speaker 2: She's calling the cops. She got on the nine one one.
Speaker 2: You know. I saw my daughter come down the steps
Speaker 2: and she's like, God's like with the with the drawers on.
Speaker 6: I'm like, this is freaky. And my youngest daughter slept
Speaker 6: through the whole thing. She had a playmate, she had
Speaker 6: a playmate or a play date, and she had you know,
Speaker 6: somebody over the house. They slept through the whole thing.
Speaker 6: And then her parents was the interesting thing. Her parents
Speaker 6: called the next like that morning when we woke up,
Speaker 6: there was like, oh.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, yeah, she can stay. You know, it's
Speaker 2: no problem, Like is that my daughter?
Speaker 7: Like I'm just.
Speaker 2: Oh, just what I'm like, yo, they must be having
Speaker 2: a really good time whatever they're doing. They got some
Speaker 2: really big rings because.
Speaker 3: You know, so that was it because people were telling
Speaker 3: me you gotta leave and I gotta respect you because
Speaker 3: I really love you. But before we get up out
Speaker 3: of here, I need to know about.
Speaker 2: Raised down.
Speaker 6: She was raised represent queen. She was raised out brook
Speaker 6: represent Queen. She was raised out in Brooklyn. What about it?
Speaker 3: I just needed you to break that down.
Speaker 2: I represent Queen because Angie Martinez forever. I thought it
Speaker 2: was about her. They're serious not saying the record was
Speaker 2: about her. Oh I'm saying he represented that record. Okay,
Speaker 2: let me get.
Speaker 7: My first.
Speaker 2: What happened a lot?
Speaker 16: I didn't mean like that, but I mean like because
Speaker 16: she was oh yeah, yeah, no, no, it's just a record,
Speaker 16: like you know, that was it was what it was,
Speaker 16: you know, it was.
Speaker 6: It was funny because you know that was a beat
Speaker 6: that Rashard had let me hear. It's lights of blinking.
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. Oh, I thought that was the
Speaker 2: real I just uh that beat.
Speaker 6: You know, Puffy actually had wanted that beat for Biggie,
Speaker 6: and you know he called me, I want my beat back,
Speaker 6: saying not so much.
Speaker 2: And nah, but you know, Puff my man and Big understood.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, It was mine. It was
Speaker 2: what it was.
Speaker 6: It was just like you know, you know how producers
Speaker 6: they play everybody beats and Biggie you know, he really,
Speaker 6: you know, God bless him me recipeces and talented artists.
Speaker 6: He really had his heart set on that one, you know,
Speaker 6: but you know that's how it went.
Speaker 2: Who's your favorite producer? Producer? I'll getting a studio? What
Speaker 2: I mean, there's some.
Speaker 6: Amazing producers out there. Man, it would be I mean,
Speaker 6: give me one. I don't even want to.
Speaker 2: Say, man, give me two. I don't even want to say.
Speaker 6: But yo, it's some crazy producers. Give me a top
Speaker 6: three producers, some top three, top three?
Speaker 2: Okay, I think, uh I think Dre is serious. I agree.
Speaker 2: I think I think Timberland is serious. And uh I
Speaker 2: didn't expect that one.
Speaker 6: You know, it's been a while, but you know, Molly
Speaker 6: was really really serious, you know what I mean in
Speaker 6: Primo and Primo, you know, Promo serious.
Speaker 2: Really I really wanted you to say, Molly, ma I
Speaker 2: really I really do, like like yo, yo, listen man,
Speaker 2: you know I love all of these dudes.
Speaker 3: Man, my son, My son is scared to walk through yea,
Speaker 3: give them five, Give them five, yo.
Speaker 2: VI and you're a revolt.
Speaker 3: TV got that man, because this is because this is
Speaker 3: because you know, your people is telling me you got
Speaker 3: to go, and I.
Speaker 2: Gotta respect your people.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so and you know what, because I respect
Speaker 3: you because if it wasn't for you. In a lot
Speaker 3: of ways, it wouldn't be mean. And I always respect
Speaker 3: I respect you too, but I have to ask because
Speaker 3: I feel like you brought this to hip hop.
Speaker 2: The go the greatest of all time. That phrase came
Speaker 2: from you know, I got it.
Speaker 6: I got it from a LEI. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: We didn't know that from you know Ali. You know
Speaker 6: what we're saying, the greatest all time, But I made
Speaker 6: it to go.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, creates a go all time.
Speaker 2: I think I probably have one of the greatest careers.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: I think that on any given days, somebody can make
Speaker 6: a better song. But it's really about a career and
Speaker 6: it's about you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you are the greatest all time. I feel like
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know a lot of times, a
Speaker 2: lot of times. You gotta remember that.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 6: I don't know, you know, but if I got pop
Speaker 6: one Mama said knock you out, came out, maybe people
Speaker 6: would feel different about me.
Speaker 2: You gotta relax because you want that, you know, you
Speaker 2: want what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I'm saying like if something had if I was you know,
Speaker 6: got shot or was finished out or got.
Speaker 2: Done, you got if somebody didn't, let's not wish that. No,
Speaker 2: I never I don't received that at all.
Speaker 6: God, No, I don't know where you're saying, like, oh
Speaker 6: if Rock Kim would have went away. What I'm basically
Speaker 6: saying is that that there is something magical that happens
Speaker 6: with great artists when they're not here.
Speaker 2: Yes, and they get you know, look at people grow
Speaker 2: to appreciate them.
Speaker 3: But it's magical happening with you right now while you
Speaker 3: being doing TV.
Speaker 2: I'm blessed magical. Just in case you're on the Lip
Speaker 2: Sinc Battle. We are all sitting based like everything's hip hop,
Speaker 2: all the moves I made.
Speaker 3: You have to be here, but but I.
Speaker 7: Wanted to be here because and you came here because
Speaker 7: you hip hop and you and you fucking hip hop.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you out.
Speaker 3: But I just want you to know that if you
Speaker 3: never heard it before, even though you brung this phrase.
Speaker 2: To hip hop, you are the greatest of all time.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. And what's what's really you? Alive? I am?
Speaker 2: I am, I'm truly I am.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people say this all time recipes,
Speaker 3: that's true, that's true, recipes.
Speaker 2: I'd much rather be alive and debating it about that one.
Speaker 2: We say the greatest alling on. You know, we're saying
Speaker 2: the greatest on time this time, you know, Rome for
Speaker 2: this time. But listen, L, we really appreciate you, L.
Speaker 2: I know you gotta go. We know you're on a schedule.
Speaker 2: We understand everything you do.
Speaker 3: This is what we do, what our culture, our society.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, everybody up, there'll be quiet. Our society is
Speaker 3: about giving our legends flowers when they can smell them,
Speaker 3: and give them trees when they can hell them. And
Speaker 3: because you know why, our culture, when you get the
Speaker 3: thirty years, you get to forty years, you get to
Speaker 3: forty five or fifty years, they.
Speaker 2: Ride us off.
Speaker 3: But meanwhile Motley Crew was out there torring meanwhile fucking
Speaker 3: rolling stones.
Speaker 2: And I don't got no beef with them.
Speaker 3: I don't give them myself, but I want to continue
Speaker 3: to support our culture.
Speaker 6: And you know, also what would help that, I think is,
Speaker 6: you know, if the veteran artists make better decisions and
Speaker 6: if they value themselves. Because you know, I am humble,
Speaker 6: that's true, but I do know my value, no, and
Speaker 6: I understand who I am. I'm clear about that and
Speaker 6: you know, my business decisions and the moves that I
Speaker 6: may reflect that. Yes, and you know, you know, I
Speaker 6: think a lot of our artists that you know, they
Speaker 6: forget who they are and then you know, they think
Speaker 6: that it's about your last hot record.
Speaker 2: But it's not. It's more than that. It's more than
Speaker 2: just the head.
Speaker 3: It's not everybody be quiet because I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I need to hear it.
Speaker 6: You know, It's about your career. It's about you know,
Speaker 6: that's one of the things Russell taught me earlier. It's
Speaker 6: about having a career.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: I could go out and play, you know, you know,
Speaker 6: and have fifty sixty seventy thousand people out there. I
Speaker 6: can go out there and you know, do festivals. I
Speaker 6: can go do different things. And I think that, you know,
Speaker 6: our veterans sometimes they forget that, they forget.
Speaker 2: Who they are.
Speaker 6: They get lost, they get discouraged because they make it
Speaker 6: about the radio.
Speaker 2: They make it about only fourteen year olds. They make
Speaker 2: it about but.
Speaker 3: You can't live it out your radio.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, why I got a television now, you know,
Speaker 6: destroy me, you know, So I just you know, I
Speaker 6: just think we just have to know who we are.
Speaker 6: We got to believe in ourselves. You know, I wouldn't.
Speaker 6: What I would say to all the viewers is that
Speaker 6: you got to remember that dreams don't have deadlines. And
Speaker 6: you got to remember never to limit yourself. You know,
Speaker 6: Colonel Sanders started Kentucky Fried Chicken at sixty five years old.
Speaker 6: There are no limits on this thing. You can be
Speaker 6: successful as long as you want to be successful. You know,
Speaker 6: Michael Jackson had made Rest in Peace, had hot records,
Speaker 6: he had a Soul World tour coming. He was fifty
Speaker 6: years old when he passed. Don't under don't you know
Speaker 6: overestimate the gift of youth and underestimate the gift of experience.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying because you know, and like
Speaker 6: I say to all the artists out there, like there's
Speaker 6: a lot of a lot of people found out when
Speaker 6: they put their records on SoundCloud that is not as easy.
Speaker 2: To make hot ship as you thought. It was four views,
Speaker 2: you got them four or five views? How's that, Frie?
Speaker 2: How's that worthing for you? You know, remember when you
Speaker 2: remember when you were critiquing my album, but what you
Speaker 2: said was trash.
Speaker 4: You know, trash?
Speaker 2: Does it only wait gold? How do four views, feel
Speaker 2: like now you know what I mean? You know, you know,
Speaker 2: can you thetty gang me? Because you know, because like they.
Speaker 6: Threw the It's like if one thing I will say
Speaker 6: about hip hop is a funny to the sidebalk if
Speaker 6: hip hop was the NBA. It's like they took the
Speaker 6: ball and threw it to the stands. It's like the mic,
Speaker 6: like we just said, they just threw the audience in
Speaker 6: the crowd and say y'all do it. So now everybody's
Speaker 6: you know, because for every chance the rapper who is
Speaker 6: truly talented and amazes, for every one of them up,
Speaker 6: there's a thousand of them that didn't do it. So
Speaker 6: what am I saying? Basically, what I'm saying is there
Speaker 6: is some skill involved with this and it does take talent,
Speaker 6: and it isn't luck. We all need a little bit
Speaker 6: of luck sprinkled in our lives. But the guys who
Speaker 6: made it yourself, some of the other artists, you name
Speaker 6: some of these guys, your favorite.
Speaker 2: Rappers and artists, and they are talented.
Speaker 6: And you know, so what the Internet has showed us
Speaker 6: is it's given us the opportunity to find out that
Speaker 6: guess what rappers really are?
Speaker 2: Talented.
Speaker 6: These guys really have talent, they really are artists. Because
Speaker 6: if that wasn't true in everybody, we're beyond Yeah, there's
Speaker 6: a few hit what one hit one is here and there,
Speaker 6: But this thing takes talent, you know, So you know,
Speaker 6: I think that that's just something that and those old
Speaker 6: school guys out there, they need to just make better
Speaker 6: decisions and remember that they're talented and not be not
Speaker 6: be overwhelmed by this idea that you're obsolete and irrelevant.
Speaker 6: This is not You know, when you're thirty five years old,
Speaker 6: you don't need to keep going back.
Speaker 2: To your prom. You know, you don't have to live
Speaker 2: life like you're going back to the prom thirty nine exactly.
Speaker 2: I'll be forty this year, young young relative. I'm doing
Speaker 2: three parties LA, New York and Miami. I love it.
Speaker 3: Can I have your part of one of them?
Speaker 2: I don't know why in the I don't know what happened.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to, I mean, how you feel.
Speaker 8: Let me tell you, I mean, really look around at
Speaker 8: the life you've created, like like really look at this,
Speaker 8: like this is unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3: I love pon yo, listen, I'm gonna snuff him sooner
Speaker 3: because he told me he's.
Speaker 2: Supposed to be.
Speaker 3: Because let's said, listen, listen, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't invite him to podcast. But when he hit
Speaker 2: me earlier, listen, you know I lie because I'm come
Speaker 2: from violator, So I lie to him. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I know. Had you locked there in two thirty?
Speaker 3: But I told him, of.
Speaker 2: Course you did, because I come from Chris Lighty school.
Speaker 2: I know, tell you two hours. We can't.
Speaker 6: We can't fall asleep in the getaway cardo. You know,
Speaker 6: people fall asleep in the getaway cars, like take the
Speaker 6: bucket and check off the lap and get out the
Speaker 6: call place. It's like, you know, we gotta you gotta
Speaker 6: be on time. That's another thing. I'll be on need discipline,
Speaker 6: be on time. Can we teach the youth about being
Speaker 6: on time? Because let me tell you something just now. Recently,
Speaker 6: I've been, you know, doing what I gotta do. T
Speaker 6: le All hits me and Leo All goes.
Speaker 2: I need to meet you at the Polo lounge right
Speaker 2: this is in. I know it's loaded. His skin is
Speaker 2: already set. It's like he's already to meet you at
Speaker 2: the pull up I haven't believe it's like this. It's
Speaker 2: like me, Ali ran the actor. We set it all up,
Speaker 2: but me and Ali is only there. So we pulled
Speaker 2: up at seven forty five.
Speaker 3: Leo's already there, but he told us to meet it's
Speaker 3: at eight o'clock. But this is what I'm trying to
Speaker 3: tell young people is on he told me to meet
Speaker 3: him at eight o'clock.
Speaker 2: We pulled up at seven forty five and he was
Speaker 2: already ready. There you go. He's sitting there like this,
Speaker 2: let's go. And I'm like, holy shit because he had
Speaker 2: the best chair of the meeting and all that. You
Speaker 2: get the.
Speaker 6: Listen.
Speaker 2: So this is what I'm trying to tell young people.
Speaker 3: Is you're not supposed to show up at eight fifteen
Speaker 3: when it's eight o'clock. For me and people, show up
Speaker 3: at seven forty five and scope out the joint.
Speaker 6: And also I would also say this, I would say that,
Speaker 6: you know, the cockiness is great for the records.
Speaker 2: Yes, if I make a redic come to business, If
Speaker 2: I make a.
Speaker 6: Record tomorrow, it's gonna be the cockiest thing you've ever
Speaker 6: heard in your life.
Speaker 2: Right, But in between, it's okay to be humble, no
Speaker 2: humility humility is Okay, I didn't say suito. I didn't
Speaker 2: say suito. I don't know what suito means.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know I'm talking. Yeah I'm fourth, But you
Speaker 6: know that's not false like you know for day Zy,
Speaker 6: you know, you know, but just be humble, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. And you know people want to help you.
Speaker 6: Then you know you ain't got to be you know
Speaker 6: all that all the time, you know, leave it on
Speaker 6: the records, leave it on your music, leave it on stage.
Speaker 2: But other than that, just be you. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And I think you get a lot a
Speaker 2: lot further, you know in your career.
Speaker 3: Okay, before we get you about it, because I know
Speaker 3: you gotta go because Clauda is over there.
Speaker 2: I know you gotta go.
Speaker 3: But you actually have it's not just lip Sync Battle.
Speaker 2: It's not just you know, you playing these others.
Speaker 3: You actually have a production describe to these young black kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we can actually help help people.
Speaker 6: Well, I co produced the Grammy nomination show for for
Speaker 6: about five years. I'm a producer on lip Sync Battle
Speaker 6: as well.
Speaker 2: Did you know how lightly he said that. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, I think we should make noise for that.
Speaker 6: If somebody has you know, if somebody has you know,
Speaker 6: TV ideas or ideas that I think are worthy, I'm
Speaker 6: not gonna like everything.
Speaker 2: If I don't like it. If I don't like it,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Tell tell the person like I can send to Claudine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. So we gotta be easy. It's
Speaker 2: a million people. Let me just tell you something.
Speaker 3: One thing for Charlton Insertain when Violator dispersed, Yeah, it
Speaker 3: was probably the saddest day of my life. It was
Speaker 3: crazy because I didn't know anything other than Chris Lightighty.
Speaker 3: I didn't know other things other than Claudine, Laurie Dublin's
Speaker 3: and so on and so forth. Know this guy, I
Speaker 3: didn't know nothing.
Speaker 2: I feel you.
Speaker 3: So when when when Chris went away, it was probably
Speaker 3: the saddest day of my life.
Speaker 2: I feel you because I just didn't know. I don't
Speaker 2: know what to do. Called Bust and Buster was already
Speaker 2: had another and he had no no, he did another James.
Speaker 2: He was James at that time for a minute, but
Speaker 2: it was like another management.
Speaker 3: It was. It wasn't like James was Valley at that time,
Speaker 3: and I was just lost, like I'm just now finding
Speaker 3: myself met a great job. Me personally am one of
Speaker 3: the the very first person's people.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I said, persons, I'm like dyslexic.
Speaker 3: So it's Claudine, And I said, Claudine was She has
Speaker 3: never ever made me question her.
Speaker 2: She has never ever done anything.
Speaker 3: And the fact that Claudine is with you lets me
Speaker 3: know that you're really living out violator.
Speaker 2: And I love you, my brother love me, I love
Speaker 2: I love that woman. I love that woman slow.
Speaker 3: I love like Claudine. I love Claudine like you don't understand.
Speaker 3: And she asked, She said, yo, I want to meet
Speaker 3: your wife. And I made sure my wife came just
Speaker 3: to meet Claudine because she means so much to my life.
Speaker 3: Like I'm gonna be honest with you, and I went
Speaker 3: and looked for her.
Speaker 2: And when I said, damn, she I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't afford her.
Speaker 2: Came last year. I can't do it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, but I can't thank you enough, because you
Speaker 3: know what everything, that's what we old Chris Lighty, Chris
Speaker 3: light to keep his leg First of.
Speaker 2: All, you know, I old Chris on so many levels.
Speaker 6: I mean my mister Smith album him connected me with
Speaker 6: the track masters. We did that whole doing it record
Speaker 6: you talked to Chris was down with me when we
Speaker 6: did that song. You know Chris, you know queen, she
Speaker 6: was raised. That's the first time together and I.
Speaker 3: Gotta meet yeah, well you know, yeah, well.
Speaker 6: But yeah, Chris was. He was a special guy. And
Speaker 6: you know he's definitely be sorely missed. And I try
Speaker 6: to pay it forward by, you know, looking out for Tiffany.
Speaker 6: You know, when she's in l A, she stays with me,
Speaker 6: you know, making sure that she's good.
Speaker 3: L Nori and Buster created a new violator And because
Speaker 3: you know, you know, let me just tell you something,
Speaker 3: el And I'm sorry this is gonna get very touchy,
Speaker 3: not for you, not for anybody here.
Speaker 2: But the other day DMX performed right where in the
Speaker 2: Barclay Center. Okay, the whole hip hop.
Speaker 3: Said, oh, damn X, don't look good DMX.
Speaker 2: You know, he looks like he's smoking, he looks whatever. Whatever.
Speaker 3: But isn't it hip hop's responsibility to say that this
Speaker 3: man gave us ten million records, this man gave us
Speaker 3: such and such. Why don't we just come take him
Speaker 3: and put him in the rehab or put him into whatever.
Speaker 3: He needs to do to be safe. But you know what,
Speaker 3: hip hop don't have a union to do that als great?
Speaker 3: Nor He's great, Ian finished great, Rich Blanco is great,
Speaker 3: Brandy Actor is great. Shouldn't we give one percent of
Speaker 3: something so that if anything like this happens, like Chris
Speaker 3: Light passing tifferently, don't have to worry like DMX you know,
Speaker 3: have to go in the rehab.
Speaker 2: We can take care of that. I feel like hip hop,
Speaker 2: ohs hip hop.
Speaker 3: That at my bugging.
Speaker 6: Now, no, you're not bugging, you know, but that's that's
Speaker 6: a very complicated thing. You know what I mean, you
Speaker 6: know what you're talking about. I mean, you know, sons
Speaker 6: can I don't understand sons can't get their mothers off drugs.
Speaker 2: Man, you know that's a tough one. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: understand what you're saying.
Speaker 6: But in terms of you know, unionizing hip hop and
Speaker 6: and you know, it's something to think about. Strong management
Speaker 6: can you know, can create that kind of a vibe.
Speaker 6: It's not, it's not, it's nothing wrong. Look the laborers,
Speaker 6: look the people, the guys on the ground floor, the
Speaker 6: guys who had three four songs, the guys who you know,
Speaker 6: it would be great.
Speaker 3: If they had the medical court. Come on, we're talking about.
Speaker 2: But three, but three or four? Look, Rob Based and
Speaker 2: DJ Easy Rock don't deserve to be they the first.
Speaker 2: Don't mean like, okay, look at you're mad. Okay, I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think it's nothing wrong. I think that's a
Speaker 2: good idea. But you think, people, it takes it.
Speaker 6: It takes a lot of time and a lot of commitment.
Speaker 6: There's real there's you know, you have to be real
Speaker 6: about things like but if you gave.
Speaker 3: Ten years of hip hop right right, you're dedicated to
Speaker 3: hip hop.
Speaker 2: Now you you develop, you develop some type of disease.
Speaker 3: It only takes forty thousand to get to take to
Speaker 3: get rid of your disease.
Speaker 2: And there's people like us who have it.
Speaker 3: I'll give a band, You'll give a band, jay Z,
Speaker 3: give a band whatever that person's.
Speaker 6: You know, I would always be willing to contribute to
Speaker 6: something like that as long as I know.
Speaker 2: Dudes, ain't you know?
Speaker 3: No, No, No, it's transparent. It's transparent.
Speaker 2: Getting low profile got them new pariunt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's transparent. We got be transparent, yes,
Speaker 3: because you know why, Because the thing is, I don't
Speaker 3: want to give an extra five thousand that I don't
Speaker 3: want to.
Speaker 6: I would totally, I would have no problem with You know, look,
Speaker 6: you're not gonna be successful if you don't give period anyway,
Speaker 6: that's just part of it.
Speaker 2: You know, that comes with territory.
Speaker 6: So if you think you're gonna be able to be
Speaker 6: a selfish prick and be successful, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 6: You're gonna be because the people that are successful are
Speaker 6: successful because of the things they do right, and the
Speaker 6: parts of their life where they fail, they're unsuccessful because
Speaker 6: of the things they do incorrectly. And so you know,
Speaker 6: because a lot of times people think an evil guy
Speaker 6: is successful because he's evil. No, he's successful because he's
Speaker 6: doing something right. He also will reap the rewards of
Speaker 6: being evil in another area, so don't confuse him. People
Speaker 6: are successful because of what they do right, period, and
Speaker 6: they lose because of what they do wrong.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It's like sports, you win
Speaker 2: because of what you did right. They'll be repercussions for
Speaker 2: the but there's repercussions for other things. Flagrance, you know, whatever,
Speaker 2: you know, turnover like so you know it's consequences.
Speaker 3: You're mass small. I just gotta make a noise for
Speaker 3: you being mass small, but picture one drop piece of love.
Speaker 2: Y'all. You did any shaping and gold. No, no, I'm good.
Speaker 8: I got you.
Speaker 2: Whatever you're gravy, I'm great. Thank you, thank you,