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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up, Drake Fire Player. It's me Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: Straight Player for Thursday, November the fifth, I'm sorry November

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Speaker 2: the sixth. Yes, as we record this very late in

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Speaker 2: the night. Just got back from Lakers Spurs the foulfest

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Speaker 2: that saw eighty four free throws shot. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: you gotta be kidding me. I have a theory. We'll

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Speaker 2: get into it shortly. Best bet for Thursday night Football.

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Speaker 2: It's actually a big one this week with the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: If you're going to listen to if you're still alive

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Speaker 2: in Survivor, I think you'll like the end of the podcast.

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Speaker 2: But we obviously have to start with the Lakers Spurs

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Speaker 2: showdown at the Crypt, and obviously the fouls are going

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Speaker 2: to be the big story today when you talk to anybody,

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Speaker 2: it was kind of an abomination. I thought it ruined

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Speaker 2: the game, made it disjointed. But I mean you called

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Speaker 2: thirty six on the Spurs, thirty on the Lakers. When

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Speaker 2: Bin Yama fouls out, Luca played, I'm fairly cert in

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Speaker 2: the final, like fourteen or fifteen minutes with five personal fouls.

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Speaker 2: I think It's a miracle that he stayed on there.

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Speaker 2: He was back to his old Luca. I remember watching

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Speaker 2: Luca at a MAVs Lakers game and he was barking

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Speaker 2: in the rest the whole time. It was incessant, it

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Speaker 2: was hilarious. I just watched him do it, and he

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Speaker 2: was back on that last night against the Spurs. Here's

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Speaker 2: the thing, when Binyama did not look incredible and otherworldly

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Speaker 2: like he did in the season opener. He finished with

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Speaker 2: nineteen points in thirty three minutes, missed his two threes,

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Speaker 2: looked great at the line, nine of eleven, did have

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Speaker 2: five turnovers, eight boards, three assists. He was good, but

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Speaker 2: he was not amazing. It's pretty clear that the Phoenix

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Speaker 2: Suns put the blueprint out in the last game for

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Speaker 2: what to do to webbin Yama, and the Lakers did

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Speaker 2: a lot of it. It's very clear. So what the

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Speaker 2: Suns did and the Sun's whooped Whispurs I think it

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Speaker 2: was Sunday, And if you go back and watch the

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Speaker 2: highlights on YouTube, a lot of it was, Hey, we're

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Speaker 2: not just gonna put our biggest guy or our second

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Speaker 2: biggest guy on wemby. We're gonna switch everything and be

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Speaker 2: physical as hell, and the Lakers indeed switched everything. Marcus Smart,

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Speaker 2: Jiic La Ravia, whoever was on Wemby. Here's the other thing.

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Speaker 2: If he caught it outside the paint, there was a

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Speaker 2: hard double team to get him to give it up.

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Speaker 2: And Wemby's not splitting double teams. Okay, he's a great passer.

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Speaker 2: He had a couple of awesome dimes that I was

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Speaker 2: impressed with, but it's very clear that guards need to

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Speaker 2: be physical with it. And Marcus Smart, listen, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: Marcus Smart former Celtic obviously was extremely physical and I

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Speaker 2: don't want to say it, Bob Third Wemby, but he's

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Speaker 2: still getting strong. We're talking about a young kid. He's

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Speaker 2: obviously way stronger than he was last year and as

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Speaker 2: his rookiear when he shot a lot of threes. But

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Speaker 2: the Lakers were physical as hell with him. Anybody who

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Speaker 2: matched up was putting a body on him, leaning and

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Speaker 2: then the double came and it didn't give Wemby time

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Speaker 2: to totally operate and cook. I mean, he only took

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Speaker 2: fourteen shots. Champagne took fourteen shots, Devin Vassel took fourteen shots.

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Speaker 2: We should be at Wemby with twenty, but he was

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Speaker 2: Wemby Luca matchup didn't totally materialize. Luca finished with thirty

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Speaker 2: five thirteen to nine five steals, which is crazy, didn't

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Speaker 2: shoot it great, nine out of twenty seven from the field,

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Speaker 2: hit four threes, thirteen of seventeen from the free throw line.

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Speaker 2: I thought, honestly, the story for the Lakers was the

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Speaker 2: reemergence of DeAndre eighton and I see all these nicknames

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Speaker 2: floating around on social media. I'm sure Rob's gonna have

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Speaker 2: a field day with him, but I feel like a

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Speaker 2: rejuvenated DeAndre eight and I mean remember the revenge game

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Speaker 2: don't know if this is you know, temporary or fool's gold,

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Speaker 2: or you know, Lebron and Luca got to him, but

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Speaker 2: I see a totally different DeAndre and than I did

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Speaker 2: in Portland, where they could not get him out of

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Speaker 2: town fast enough. Now you're probably more engaged when you're

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Speaker 2: playing for the Lakers. And it's interesting. My son plays

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Speaker 2: And of course I'm pepperaking question what's he is he?

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Speaker 2: a very nice guy. And I saw some toughness. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if Rob saw the same. I saw a

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Speaker 2: little bit of toughness battling inside. I think he pinned

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Speaker 2: DeAndre eight, and you're gonna get I remember the Lakers

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Speaker 2: were playing down the stretch with Jake la Ravia on

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Speaker 2: to Lebron and Austin Reeves when they're back. Now, you Smart,

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Speaker 2: maybe we'll get in there sometimes maybe eight and will

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Speaker 2: be out. But the big three are going to be

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Speaker 2: seven and two, they would down I think twelve in

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Speaker 2: the third quarter. I mean, this was hella impressive. Nick Smith,

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Speaker 2: if he didn't have two turnovers in the back court

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Speaker 2: against hers four. Cordifa probably would have played in the

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Speaker 2: second half. Not his night, not his night, but nevertheless,

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Speaker 2: a good win for the Lakers. Rob no ranting against

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Speaker 2: the refs. I know you'd love this performance from the Lakers. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the ref's ruined.

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Speaker 3: Which should have been a marquee matchup between the two

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Speaker 3: got a three hour slugfest where you know, a foul

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Speaker 3: But let's work backwards. First off, shout out to dominating

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Speaker 3: DeAndre Aiden. That's the great nickname. You know, numbers still

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Speaker 3: hoped for as a Lakers fan. Like I know a

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Speaker 3: and some of them been on this podcast. You DM

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Speaker 3: me when the deal went down, Like, oh, good luck

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Speaker 3: with the DeAndre Aiden experience is going to be terrible,

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Speaker 3: like similar to what Lakers fans said about DiAngelo Russell

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Speaker 3: see what you get? And so far it's only been

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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks, he has been so much better

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Speaker 3: Because the numbers are fine, Like the numbers are kind

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Speaker 3: of on par with his career averages like sixteen and ten.

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Speaker 3: Aar come back. But it's the effort, like he was

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Speaker 3: making extra effort plays against the Spurs and at the

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Speaker 3: times when he was matched up with Wemby and I

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Speaker 3: know he got his stuff blocked a couple of times.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't deterred, he wasn't cowering away. He kept coming,

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Speaker 3: kept coming, and kept coming. That's all you can really

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Speaker 3: ask for from a guy like that. As far as

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Speaker 3: what the Lakers are doing, it's really awesome to have

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Speaker 3: Luca Dodgers on your team. Like shout out to Nico

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Speaker 3: Because Luca, I think, had an okay game, Like by

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Speaker 3: kind of sluggish out there. He looked tired, just to

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Speaker 3: be quite honest with you, and in a average to

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Speaker 3: slightly below average game, he finishes with what did you say,

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Speaker 3: like thirty three thirteen and nine, Like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, this guy is a freaking cheat code. I

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Speaker 3: saw earlier late overnight that Luka Doncic now has the

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Speaker 3: like an NBA record book cheatco Like, hey, Michael Jordan's

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Speaker 3: not on that list. Michael Jordan is fourth. Michael Jordan

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Speaker 3: wants no part of Luka Doncic, right, So that's number

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Speaker 3: two and then last, but not least when because obviously

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Speaker 3: could not stop fawning over everything that Victor Wimunyamo was

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Speaker 3: on Luka Doncic's level, much less some of the other

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Speaker 3: something I thought was really revealing. He said, the game

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Speaker 3: feels fast right now. We're going to catch up to it,

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Speaker 3: of course, But personally, I haven't seen this kind of

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Speaker 3: player we've ever seen offensively, and this is what separates

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Speaker 3: run it through Yannis, I can run it through Joker,

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Speaker 3: Bin Yama at this stage in his career, is nothing

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Speaker 3: close to that. So if you're already getting the pomp

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Speaker 3: Poms rating, you're throwing down money at the betting window

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Speaker 3: for the you know, the WEMBMVP ticket, you might want

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Speaker 3: to pump the brakes a little bit. Yeah, because it's

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Speaker 3: to his defense. And that's okay, it's supposed to be

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Speaker 3: only twenty one. But just whenever it does happen, whether

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Speaker 3: it's not this year, maybe next year, the year after,

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Speaker 3: good guy, it's gonna be amazing to see.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting that when I had saw that from the Suns,

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Speaker 2: I was like, Ooh, Reddick's probably gonna try it. Reddick

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Speaker 2: up over him. So in the first meeting he had,

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Speaker 2: he had a good showing eight for ninety seven on

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Speaker 2: twelve targets. In that game, Raiders jumped out to a

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Speaker 2: ten to nothing late and then the Broncos scored thirty

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Speaker 2: four straight points and the Broncos crushed him and covered.

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Speaker 2: Brock had a fifty seven yard touchdown, kind of got loose,

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Speaker 2: and then in the second meeting they did a much

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Speaker 2: better job on him for catches for thirty eight yards,

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Speaker 2: but interestingly four catches on ten targets, so they really

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Speaker 2: locked him down. Also interesting, it was another comeback victory

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Speaker 2: as Vegas led this one thirteen ten I think at halftime,

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Speaker 2: and then Denver came back and ended up covering the spread.

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Speaker 2: So Denver has been prone to slow starts. If you

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Speaker 2: really have an appetite, you could take Raiders first quarter.

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Speaker 2: I haven't looked at it because I'm not betting it,

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Speaker 2: because I don't bet on Geno Smith in primetime. How

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Speaker 2: about this Gino Smith in primetime this year and last

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Speaker 2: year one in four straight up, zero to five against

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Speaker 2: the spread. When the lights get bright, Gino Smith can't

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Speaker 2: handle it. In his career now this spans Jets, Seahawks,

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Speaker 2: and Raiders. He is four and thirteen in primetime. You

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Speaker 2: know that again? What does that mean? You know there's

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Speaker 2: so much at play, It's just a data point. Hey man, primetime,

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Speaker 2: do you know Smith? You show it up? I don't know, man.

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Speaker 2: This week, you know he let them down. He threw

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Speaker 2: the pass that was batted down at the line of

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Speaker 2: scrimmage against the Jags, and now he's got to go

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Speaker 2: to Denver. Now the good news is he doesn't have

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Speaker 2: to face Patrick Sartan. I am of the belief that

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Speaker 2: Again you could disagree. I think Gino Smith is on

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Speaker 2: a bit of a short leash. Here. You just look

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Speaker 2: at this tea. It's two and six. They won the

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Speaker 2: season opener against the Patriots. Patriots are actually good since then?

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Speaker 2: Remember I backed these clowns in that primetime game against

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Speaker 2: the Chargers and they got destroyed. Gino Smith was horrendous.

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Speaker 2: Ashton Genty, are you ready for this. He had an

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Speaker 2: amazing game against the Bears. Remember Buck thirty eight. Here's

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Speaker 2: what Ashton genty's done against Jacksonville forty two yards rushing

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Speaker 2: against KC twenty one yards rushing. They also beat Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: He had seventy five yards rushing. Gino Smith, I just

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Speaker 2: I'm not a believer in this offense. I am a

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Speaker 2: chip Kelly guy. Maybe though forced feed Brock bart Bauer's

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Speaker 2: fifteen targets and he eats I would have to assume

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Speaker 2: at this stage the Broncos, no, he's their only weapon,

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Speaker 2: Like maybe you got to worry about Tucker Deep. But

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Speaker 2: things that would not be surprised by. Raiders show up

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Speaker 2: in the first quarter and end the quarter with a lead,

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Speaker 2: and at some point Aidan O'Connell takes over at quarterback

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Speaker 2: for the Raiders. Denver is the side for me. I

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Speaker 2: told you were on them and survivor fun stat Denver

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Speaker 2: plus sixty in the fourth quarter of this season. They

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Speaker 2: are the best fourth quarter team in the league. The

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Speaker 2: problem is these stamp slow starts first three quarters. They

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Speaker 2: are a total of minus one this season. I don't

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Speaker 2: understand it. Sean Payton's a very good coach bo Nix's

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Speaker 2: in his second year. The scripted stuff, you'd expect them

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Speaker 2: to play well, I don't have it. I don't love

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Speaker 2: the idea that the Broncos always have to come back,

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Speaker 2: and I hope this one's done pretty quickly. That's just

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Speaker 2: my guest. You know, I understand primetime you want to

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Speaker 2: see good games. I don't want to see a good game.

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Speaker 2: I mean again, they've won six in a row, and

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Speaker 2: they had big comebacks against the Eagles in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: I think that was fourteen nothing. I know that was

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Speaker 2: seventeen to three. And then the Broncos peeled off eighteen

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Speaker 2: not fourteen, eighteen straight against Philly, and then you had,

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Speaker 2: of course the Giants comeback. That was crazy, and then

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Speaker 2: you had the Houston comeback last week. I don't like this.

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Speaker 2: Save it until the end. There is the thought that

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Speaker 2: they're looking ahead to the Chiefs. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: play here. I'm nervous about Denver guys, and obviously I'm

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Speaker 2: nervous about every survivor. Pick I felt great about the

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Speaker 2: Rams last week. That was like, come on, we're good.

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Speaker 2: Denver just loves to play with their food, and that

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Speaker 2: to me is a sign of caution. I don't love

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Speaker 2: nine and a half. I like it. I bet it.

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Speaker 2: Let's go Broncos all right back tomorrow, See you then,