WEBVTT - “Super Bowl LIII” with Matthew Slater | Patriots vs. Rams 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.320 I had two workwives in my career, Julian and the Cordy. 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:05.519 Who's the main Who was the mainstay? 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:09.280 It was Julian was a primary work. You tell McCurdy 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:12.760 he the side piece. Okay, he's a side piece. 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:20.520 Today we have an unbelievably special guest, tend time pro bowler, 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:28.000 sixteen year veteran, the greatest special teamer of all time, 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:32.760 Matthew Slater, who we are looking at Super Bowl fifty 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:36.839 three Patriots burst the rims and. 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:42.040 This was a special teams battle. Fifteen total punts and 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:46.600 then the bonus. My guy was the MVP. You What 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:50.520 made you great was that you were so ultra competitive. 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.560 Yeah. I was told, Yeah, a lot of guys probably 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:55.960 didn't like me, but you respected me. There's no doubt 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:00.680 after this game, would you start to field in the Steve. 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:02.600 Was fallowing down with the ship. That was a moo 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:04.480 where you went down with the ship. I was like 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:06.920 one of those violin players on the Titanic. 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.240 I was one of the lifeboat workers that had to 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.840 go down with the lifeboat but still live. 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:14.640 Fully. 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:21.640 Games with Names is presented by Win Las Vegas and 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:27.440 Encore Boston Harbor and is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.760 to Games with Names, presented by Win Las Vegas and 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:35.959 on Core Boston Harbor. Today's episode is Super Bowl fifty three, 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:40.720 the Rams versus the Patriots with Matthew Slater the captain. 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:48.440 We talk all funny, all funny, real funny, locker room stuff, 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:53.720 roommates stuff, Who hated me the most in the Patriots 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:56.000 locker room answer? 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:58.520 It was not the answer I was expected. It does 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:00.440 make It makes a lot of sense when you think 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:00.800 about it. 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:02.000 You gotta think about it. 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:06.640 You gotta think about it, and our thoughts on the 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:12.840 end of the dynasty and which character Matthew Slater was 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:18.200 in Titanic the movie when the boat sunk. 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:19.680 And then we'll. 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:23.320 Wrap it up by hitting the old hotline and again 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:27.200 that number is four two four two nine one two 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:30.919 two nine zero. Let's start it off, Let's go. Games 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.600 with Names is brought to you by Win Las Vegas 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:37.720 and Encore Boston Harbor. Win Las Vegas and Encore Boston 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:43.000 Harbor are the ultimate destinations for sports lovers. 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Today we have an unbelievably special guest. 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:51.200 Not just a what thirteen time team captain, ten time 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:55.240 pro bowler, We got a three time Super Bowl champion 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:57.120 sixteen do we play sixteen s late? 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:02.560 Sohow fulham for sixteen, sixteen year veteran Probably not probably 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.440 is going to go down as the greatest special teamer 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:06.600 of all time. 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:11.520 Matthew Slater and even crazier my my former roommate for 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:12.960 three years. Matthew, welcome to games with me. 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.400 It's great to be here. Is this is awesome. We 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.479 come a long way from that twenty eight pacing road 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:19.400 there in Foxborough. 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:20.799 We've come a long way. 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:21.159 Long way. 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:25.360 I've got Jack and Kyler here. Old Jackie's been he's 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:28.000 been all excited about this, and Kyler has literally been 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:32.679 practicing his past sets in the kitchen because of your father. 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:33.800 I love it. I love it. 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.080 I gotta say welcome back to Slate. This is a 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:39.080 little piece of trivia. Our first ever guest on Games 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.279 with Names an unreleased the unreleased episode. 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.520 I remember that it was our test, our test episode. 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:48.200 Yes, pilot, the pilot, pilot episode. It was pilot. 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:49.560 Now we got the real deal. 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:51.719 I love to see how well the show is doing. 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.200 No surprise, though, no surprise. 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:55.240 It's coming along, Slate. 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:56.000 It's doing great. 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:56.559 It's better. 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:58.279 Now we got you doing great. 0:04:58.480 --> 0:04:59.240 No, they got you. 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:03.159 Get here. Today we are looking at Super Bowl fifty 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.440 three Patriots versus the Rams. Why'd you pick this game? 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:10.880 Slate? Well, two reasons I picked this game. Number One, 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:16.159 this was a special team's battle fifteen total punts, so 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:22.039 for someone like me, I really enjoyed it. Secondly, playing 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:26.080 against the Rams, my childhood team, my dad's team, twenty 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:29.200 years as a Ram, so this was special for our family. 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:34.880 And then the bonus third reason, my guy was the MVP. Yeah, 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.440 and I mean you know that was you know I 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:39.799 was never gonna win a Super Bowl MVP. The next 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:44.880 closest thing would be you winning it. What a special memory. 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:48.120 This was a great game. Look forward to talking about it. 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:49.520 Funny story about that. 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.960 Me and Bill we were going out, we were doing 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:57.440 some stuff for the MVP coach stuff and he looks 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:02.320 at me, Shit, I would have gave it to Slate. Literally, 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.680 he literally said, no, Slater was the MVP. 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:08.720 No, no, my god, would you have ten for one? 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:09.320 Thirty one? 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.120 I don't know what forty one something like that. 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:13.800 He knows what it was. 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:15.080 No, I don't know Slate. 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:19.560 Anyways, you kept I was ten yards olf. 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:21.599 But I mean, I just remember, you know, it was 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:24.200 a struggle for us offensively that game, and you really 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:27.400 kept us going. You kept us you know, we had 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.000 some momentum, you had some big conversions when we needed it, 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.400 and it felt like every time we needed to play, 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.679 you made the play. And uh, I was just riding 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.400 with you from the bench. Yeah right, man, and I 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:42.320 was like, yeah, get open, you know. And and that 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:45.440 that team was a really good team, that ram team, 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:49.880 A keeping those guys obviously Aaron Donald. Their defense was 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:52.040 I thought one of the best in the league at 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:53.719 the time. So for you to do what you did 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:54.839 was was really special. 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:59.320 We'll get into the game and Wade Phillips and you know, 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:01.560 our revenge that we had to have on him. Because 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:05.280 of that, you know Denver matchup we had in fifteen, 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:10.600 we were pretty much a depleted weaponry group. So but 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:12.760 we'll get into that. What's life looking like as a 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:14.040 retired athlete Now. 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:18.280 It's different, as you know, Look, I've been playing football 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:22.640 since I was thirteen, and we always had that path forward, 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.720 like all right, we're working towards something. There's a ton 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:30.040 of structure we could tell people no matter what month 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.480 it was, Hey, I'm going to be doing this in 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.400 March or this in April and May, and now it's 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.040 just kind of like that structure has been pulled away 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:42.400 and it's challenging. So you know, we're navigating that. But 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:44.600 what I love most is the family time. You know, 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.760 with four young kids at home, it allows me to 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.040 be there and to be present and to be a dad, 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.480 be a husband. So I'm really enjoying that. 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:56.440 But people don't realize when you retire as a professional athlete, 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:01.160 especially a professional athlete that played a long time like you. 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.040 You know, athletes are creatures, a habit, you know, and 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.240 we're all used to on Thursday getting that red schedule, 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:11.440 this red schedule that told out our life by the 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:13.760 hour where we had to be what we had to do. 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.520 And and a lot of guys get in trouble and 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:20.400 that's pulled away from him because they don't have the 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.120 routine given to them. So for a lot of the 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:27.520 athletes that are retiring, what I've learned through my experience 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:31.280 is I was such a routine guy that I had 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.920 to create my routine. You got to create a routine 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:38.360 because you need you need to have something that you've 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.760 been doing for such a long time. Now you know, 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:42.720 the routine is gonna be different. Where you're gonna be 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:44.520 picking up kids, you're gonna have to find your time 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:46.760 to get a workout, you're gonna do whatever meetings you 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.400 got going. But you know, it's it's a struggle for 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.720 you know, athletes in this in this time. But with 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:57.280 a guy like Matthew, he's the he's literally the model 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:01.920 of how to be a professional athlete. And whatever you 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.280 jump into, I'm gonna try to make you. You know, 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.040 I'm gonna try to sell you on doing your own podcast. 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.520 We gotta get you going here. But whatever you're gonna do, 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:13.400 you're gonna be at the highest level of that and 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:15.760 no one's ever gonna worry about you. 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.320 Well, I appreciate that, but you know, like you said, 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:22.720 I mean that structure and that routine is something that 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.719 I've had in place since I was a child, all 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.640 of us, like you're saying, and just not having that 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.920 is I'm having to create and find a way to 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:36.400 create a routine and to have some continuity. You know. 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.320 I almost feel like as football players were kind of 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.719 like soldiers, right we get a command and we go 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:46.559 execute it, and we thrived doing that, especially playing for coach. 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:51.200 So I'm trying to find a new commander. Maybe it's 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:55.120 my wife, maybe it's my future loss that full right now, 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:58.280 it's definitely my wife. Fully, she's definitely given the martian 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.320 orders and I'm just trying to execute it. So it's 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.839 you know, it's a process. That transition is the process. 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.840 Who's the wildest person to hit you up since the retirement? 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:10.560 Oh man, Well, there there have been a lot, and 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:13.840 I certainly appreciate hearing from all the guys that we 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:17.160 played with, you know, I think that's what means the most, 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:20.560 is hearing from the guys. You know, some of my 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:23.560 dad's old teammates that saw me as a young pup 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.240 and really kind of raised me with him in the 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:29.560 game of football, and then obviously like talking to coach 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.440 and having dialogue with Coach about you know, the time 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:37.080 that we spent together. Super thankful to have had the 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.880 experience with him. It was a special time that we 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:43.080 were part of. So thankful for everybody that's reached out 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:45.520 and shown support, and it makes you feel like you 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.480 had somewhat of an impact on people's lives, not just 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:49.280 football wise. 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:53.520 So did you have that conversation with Bill before the 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.319 season or was he still around when he had Did 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.079 you have the conversation because I remember my conversation. 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:02.600 With Bill builds out the most sentimental guy, So I 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.400 wasn't gonna go try to, you know, strum at the 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:10.400 sentimental chords. But I did mention him before our last 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:13.160 game that you know, I thought this would be it, 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.800 and you know, I just thanked him for everything, and 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.400 I hope he knows how much I appreciate everything that 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.839 he's done for me. You know, his focus was just 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.880 on going out there and beating the Jets, So I 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:27.880 didn't want to get to too emotional or sentimental, but 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.320 I appreciate Coach. You know, him and I had a 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:33.360 great relationship, and you know, I appreciate everything he's done 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:33.640 for me. 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:38.480 Did you not instantly feel a switch flip when you 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.040 when he when he knew that you were going to retire, 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.120 he became kind of a I remember when I told 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:50.440 him that I was retiring. I was expecting like, look 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:53.480 like you know this that it was more of he 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.880 was like nourishing with it, right, you know, which a 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.560 lot of people wouldn't, you know, think that. So she 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:01.600 was a group of guys that have been in the 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.600 system for a while, you know, like you felt like 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:07.800 he was gonna do everything to help you for the process. 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.520 That's what I helped you absolutely, you know, and Coach 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:12.760 you know, look there there's always a part of me 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:17.080 that was a little bit intimidated, you know, when it 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.520 came to coach because he's such a strong figure and 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:24.839 he was so demanding as a coach. But there were 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.120 moments that he would surprise me all the time with 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:30.320 how supportive he was or thoughtful he was about different things. 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:34.920 And I don't think that gets talked about enough. And certainly, 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.240 you know, I've seen both sides of it, but you know, 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.160 he was very supportive of me this year. I think 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:42.599 he knew without us talking about it beforehand, that it 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:44.679 was it was coming. Towards the end, we had some 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:48.840 conversations about things moving forward in the future and what 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:52.520 they look like without me there, and then certainly at 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:57.000 the end there he was very supportive, expressed his gratitude 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:01.080 to myself, my dad. Him and my dad were talking 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.200 after the last game in the dining hall, and I 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:06.160 was like, you know, they're my two football like icons 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:11.200 right there, two football dad's. Yeah, essentially my two football followers. 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.120 You know. There was that that shift that you're talking about, 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:17.120 and I certainly appreciated like being on the other side 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.560 of that, you know now as a former player. 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.200 So yeah, speaking of both sides. You've been watching the Dynasty. 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:28.760 I haven't now now. You know, it's interesting this Dynasty. 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.680 You know, I caught up on the episodes, and I'm 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.760 not sure how I feel about everything. I mean, it's tough, 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.800 you know. I know there's some times some comments that 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:40.920 I made on there that that made it seem like 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.520 Bill was just this like very demanding presence, and he was. 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:47.520 But I also want people to see there like they're 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:51.199 multiple sides of Bill, right, And you know it's tough 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:56.199 because I feel like he's being portrayed in a certain 0:13:56.280 --> 0:14:00.000 light and you know that, you know, we're painting a picture, 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:04.880 but we're only showing people part of the picture. With coach, 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.680 it's very complex and there are things that you know, 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:09.640 we're tough, and I'm sure we all feel like, hey, 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.120 maybe we wish we had done things this way, but 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:15.040 let's make sure none of us forget the fact that 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:19.800 the dynasty is not even being talked about without Bill Belichick. 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:23.520 And the things that he did were with intentionality and purpose, 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:25.880 and I think he got the best out of all 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:26.240 of us. 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.480 I don't know, this whole thing is it's a little crazy. 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.520 I mean, have you has anyone what you praise? 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.080 Bill didn't kill the people that Aaron hands did? 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:36.760 I mean, what do you mean? 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:38.840 Did you not see that? In the dog? It was 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:40.040 like his falls bullshit? 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:42.640 I mean you said it, Kyler. 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:43.800 That's why I'm here. 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.240 I got no comments, man, I mean, I think he 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:46.840 held his hand. 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:51.360 I got, I got no comment. I mean it's tough. 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.840 I mean, I don't know what. I'm curious to hear 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:57.320 what you think about his portrayal, and then just the 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.000 work in general. I mean, look, it's it's always hard 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.480 or to tell a story as complex as the one 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:07.640 we lived in you know, ten episodes, right, there's just 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:11.160 so many more things that took place that give context 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:12.120 to what really happened. 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:18.720 So I honestly think, if you're in your thirties and 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.520 you've played football, I don't think you ever liked your 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:25.480 football coach. You loved them, but you didn't like your 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.800 football coach, just like I didn't like my parents when 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.000 they made me do things that they knew or was 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:34.040 gonna make me a better person. I didn't like doing 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:37.520 it right. We didn't like doing it works not easy, 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:41.720 you know, doing the little shit for preparation, doing walkthroughs, 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:45.080 for walk throughs, for walkthroughs. I hated it. I bitched 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:47.640 about it all the time. But we needed it right, 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.920 you know. And that's why you went into every single 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:54.640 game knowing you outprepared that team and you had a 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:56.800 shot to win every single game. It just came down 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:01.160 to execution, you know, And usually because of how we practiced, 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:05.800 how hard we practiced, how much we practiced, how many 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:09.640 reps we got. Mentally, you know, we executed at high, high, 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.840 high level in those crucial situations. 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:14.560 No question. And to your point, you know, maybe maybe 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.480 there were times that many of us didn't like Coach, 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:21.320 but we always loved and respected him. There was no 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:24.560 question about that. We always knew that he was pushing 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.280 us to be the best version of ourselves like our 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:28.000 parents would. 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:32.640 And well, well, well gear hear out here saying like 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.880 with Aaron Hernandez got away with murder like and I 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:41.120 figured speaking about like at practice, that's not even true. 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.920 Welger painted the picture like he got he was like 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:48.000 the king, like you got to do anything. I remember Bill, 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:52.440 motherfucking Aaron all the time. Come on, well, try and 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.960 make up story. We know you don't like Bill Wes. 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:55.760 I ain't even say that. 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:56.040 Man. 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.800 Just sit my water here, man, my water West. 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:01.400 I'm just saying, you know, all, I love you. You 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.880 know I love him too. But you could clearly tell 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:09.879 that he hates Bill. What was up with the Chris 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:11.920 interview Chris Long interview last week? 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:15.600 Oh yeah, you want to talk about that? Yeah? Can 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:19.160 we play that back somewhere, you know, because my man, 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:24.960 I just want I just want the people to know. 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.199 And I'm glad that I'm glad that you brought this up, 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:30.200 and I'm glad that Dola let you, you know, borrow 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:34.560 his hat there, because, yeah, we used to have this conversation, 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:39.560 Who's Batman, who's Robin? And you know, you know, football aside. 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.919 I'm not getting into the Batman Robin conversation. 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:45.439 That's what it's about. It's about it was. 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:49.359 About more than football. It was about football, but it 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:58.080 was also about off the field appeal. Joel lines, handsomeness, charisma, 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:02.119 got that riz, you know, and it was very clear 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.840 to me that Dola had the edge. And I don't 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:07.280 know what you want me to say. What do you 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:08.120 want me to tell you? 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.200 I don't know what do you think? Is what you think? 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:13.639 Batman doesn't say he's Batman. 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:19.000 He doesn't. You're right, he doesn't tell exactly. I'm just 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:22.480 exactly right. You know, I'm gonna stand by that. We're here, 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.720 I'm gonna have to stand by Dola. Come show him 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.520 how it's done. Robin's here, he's got your gear on. 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:30.720 Go get that. 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:32.840 I mean, we see, we see Dola in the hot 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:35.399 tub over here giving the bottle looks and stuff. 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:39.639 Wasn't Dola with an agency? Wasn't he wasn't he with 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:46.000 a modeling agency modeling? You were you with Ford Modeling? Now, okay, 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:50.480 there wasn't trying to be Now, Dolan didn't have the 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:54.520 let didn't have Super Bowl MVP. Dola didn't have you know, 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:58.720 these postseason records. Dolan didn't have the we got six 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:03.439 hundred plus catches. Care don't would enamdled that. So you know, 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:06.879 the edge is clearly you know Edel's on that, you know, 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.760 but everything else, Dole's got a strong case. 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:13.720 There's a difference between being Bruce Wayne and Batman. That 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:18.240 difference Bruce Wayne out in the public is Bruce Wayne 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:22.600 fair enough behind the dark showering the dark Knight has 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:23.120 to come out. 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:25.680 Okay, I can live with that. I used to love 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:29.080 those meetings though. When Chris brought that up, I just 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:32.040 thought about how we would be sitting in those meetings 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:36.920 and it would be o'shae. Dola was down in front 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:39.160 of us, and it was you and I. Half the time, 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:43.400 Dola would be drawn some photos yea tongue out, We'd 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:46.959 be drawn pictures of O'Shane and you. In practice. But 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:48.480 I mean that was a great time. I was a 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.399 special time and we had a special room with guys 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:54.119 who really cared and loved each other and loved the game, 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:57.520 loved the process. And you know, it's no surprise to 0:19:57.560 --> 0:19:59.480 me in hindsight that we had the success that we 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:00.720 did because we good people. 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:04.199 I one hundred percent agree, And I loved what you 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:07.000 said over on green Light talking about Chatt e O 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:12.560 and Ivan. You know the unsung hero coaches. Yeah, we 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:16.440 all know of the Scarnack yos and and coach Belichack. 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.720 But uh, you know Chad o'sha. Like you said, I had. 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:24.120 To deal you know, up and down, up and down 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:27.280 roller coaster. And you know what Chad was. His demeanor 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:31.000 was fantastic, right, Like he had the perfect demeanor to 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:35.679 deal with guys like you, Guys like Wes, guys like Randy, 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:39.000 you know, like it was he was here, he was level. 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:43.760 And what made you great was that you were so 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:47.879 ultra competitive. And you know, we're all crazy in our 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:51.440 own way. We played football for most of our lives, 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:56.000 like we're all tapped, but it was that controlled tapped, 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:59.320 shall we say, that allows you to be successful because 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:01.200 when the game was on the line or was a 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:04.080 highly competitive situation, you always answered the bell and You 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:06.919 brought out the best in everyone, and Chad knew that. 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:10.040 He understood that, and he was the perfect coach in 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:14.160 my opinion, for you. You know, as you ascended into 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:15.280 the player that you became. 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:19.040 Now, do you ever recall a time where me and 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:19.920 Chadman was fined? 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:23.600 I wasn't gonna bring that up for the kind audience 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:26.720 out there who loves Julian Edelman, but there were several 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:32.000 times where where you and Chad almost fought. And you know, 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:34.960 for the people that don't know out there, we called 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:38.680 the Edelment helmet toss. Now you know, many you guys 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:42.240 have thrown their helmet, but practice, you used to slam 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:46.520 your helmet with consistency at least once a week. And 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:49.880 I'm talking about jaw pads flying because we're old enough 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:54.080 where there were still jaw pads, jaw pads flying, stuff flying, 0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:58.240 And you're yelling the first guy. You'd yelling because you 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:01.840 can't yell at Tom. You gonna yell at your teammates, yell. 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:04.360 You're yell at Chat. You ain't yelling at Bill, You're 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:08.439 yelling at Chad. And you'd be yelling at Chad. And 0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:11.639 some days Chad was just taking a stride. But then 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:14.680 you know, other day it's Chad. You know, Chad was like, no, 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:17.159 I'm not having that. So then you and Chad are 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:21.000 over there going at it, yelling at each other. And 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:23.640 I used to just sit over there and laughing myself 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:26.080 because I was like these two because I knew you 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:29.679 guys obviously cared about each other so much, but there 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:34.080 was just so much passion and intensity and the practice 0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:34.560 was flat. 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:37.840 If practice was flat, you knew that Edelman had toss 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:42.280 was coming right. I was fucking breaking the goddamn helmet, 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:45.680 just these young bucks none. 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:48.719 And you know what, though, I will say this, I 0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:52.360 had a greater appreciation for that after you retired than 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:55.440 I did while you were playing, because I realized that 0:22:55.480 --> 0:23:00.359 what you did increase the urgency and accountability amongst the guys. 0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:03.360 It brought an edge to our group, and we were 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:05.879 missing that edge once you left. We were missing it 0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:08.840 and we really never replaced it, you know, in terms 0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:11.840 of a guy that would come out there really getting 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:15.719 guys faces, but hold guy's accountable to a standard. We 0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:17.720 didn't have that, and that was a big part of 0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:21.040 what you did. And I think you know that's something 0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:23.200 that you can't measure. It's not a stat it's not this. 0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:26.240 But it made our team a championship caliber team. 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:29.440 But that's something that we all felt when you were 0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:35.480 first introduced to the Patriots. Yeah, absolutely, you felt Teddy Brewski, 0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:41.520 Kevin Falk. You felt their eyes, You heard their comments 0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:45.400 trying to embarrass you with your effort, or with your 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:48.400 lack of knowledge or your lack of studying, or your 0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:52.720 lack of preparation to embarrass you in front of everyone, 0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:55.639 because a they were never going to be unprepared, be 0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:58.720 they were working their dicks off and they were already 0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:02.159 in their ten, thirteen, fourteen, fifteenth year right, you know, 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:07.080 So it made you bring your level up and then 0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:09.800 you know, then you know the cycle of guys. You 0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:12.800 become one of the the guys that was I was there, 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:15.320 You were there, we were there for eight seven years. 0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:19.760 Then it becomes your turn to hold people accountable because 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:22.880 Tom couldn't always hold people accountable because if Tom got 0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:25.680 on someone, he gets on a younger receiver, they're gonna 0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:29.399 put their tail between their legs, right, and they're gonna 0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:32.280 probably tank for the rest to practice. So it was 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:36.480 like my job to motherfuck people for Tom because if 0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:40.000 Tom did, guys they couldn't handle it because they grew 0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:42.200 up watching this Guys half of them weren't even born 0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:44.359 when he first got in the league, you know what 0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:47.320 I mean. So it was like one of those things where, yeah, 0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:49.640 I was an asshole. Yeah, a lot of guys probably 0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:53.840 didn't like me, but you respected me, no doubt, because 0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:55.720 I was there before you, and I still let it 0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:58.320 last year. I was there before you, and I was 0:24:58.400 --> 0:24:59.600 leaving after you. 0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:03.560 And everybody need that quick question just because we've seen Jeels, 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:04.520 we've hung out with him forever. 0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:06.000 We know him from one side. 0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:08.600 Who didn't like him the most in the locker room, 0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:09.600 because I'm sure. 0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:13.920 There was plenty, get well, it just depended on the day. 0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:17.359 I mean, they're they're all. You know. Him and I 0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:19.480 were good for at least two or three blow ups 0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:22.000 a year. Oh so where would come up? 0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:23.080 Where did we almost fight? 0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:26.480 We almost fought in Oakland. He was a deep returner. 0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:29.120 I was a short returner. The ball gets kicked, I'm 0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:32.000 in my hometown, nine yards deep in the end zone. 0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:35.520 I give him the double hand stop, he brings it out. 0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:37.879 He brings it out. Of course, he gets blown up 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:40.679 inside the twenty. So then I look at him and 0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:42.800 I said, yo, I gave you the double lamp stop. 0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:45.760 I said, if you do that again, I'm not blocking 0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:47.639 for you. And I'm telling everybody up they're not the 0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:51.480 block for you. Then he goes f you, you're supposed 0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:54.240 to be the captain. That ain't no leadership, That ain't 0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:58.080 no captain. So we're over there getting ready to fight. 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.520 Put you know, coach are pulling us apart, guys are 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:04.240 looking at us. So you know you asked that question. 0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:08.640 Some days it might have been me, okay, other days 0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:11.600 it might have been Tom, which I would love. By 0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:14.119 the way, Julian was the only guy that could really 0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.800 give it to Tom, right, Like you know, we all 0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:19.240 kind of wanted to give it to Tom. Sometimes he did 0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:22.040 some goofy. We're like, it's Tom. I can't say that 0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:25.879 this guy will be out there getting on Tom killed 0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:28.000 him in front of the guys and we're all like 0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:31.520 trying to muffle our laughs. But you could tell Tom, like, 0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:34.440 you know, he was flustered. He was flustered. So it 0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:36.440 would just depend on the day. I mean, I'm sure 0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:38.919 at any point in time you get asked all fifty 0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:41.600 three guys on the ross fifty two guys and they 0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:44.840 would say they hated right, you know, him and Gilmore 0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:48.480 and fighting and training camp, you know, pulling a dread 0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:52.440 out doing all this, but again pulled his dread off. 0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:55.440 And I remember, it's part of the jersey, It's part 0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:58.240 of the jersey. I pulled his dread off. I walked 0:26:58.280 --> 0:26:59.280 back to the locker room with. 0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:05.040 Outrageous Right, what are we doing pulling man's dread out. 0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.639 But I'll say this, if you go back and you 0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:11.720 talk to all those guys that play with Julian, they'll 0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:15.200 all tell you they respected them, right, They'll all tell you. 0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:17.760 They'll all tell you he made us better and he 0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:21.000 brought an edge store football team. So and to your point, 0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:25.240 like we were afraid of, like letting our peers down 0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:28.240 and being embarrassed in front of our peers. And you 0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:30.680 know that's the difference, Like, you know, this next generation, 0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:33.520 the way they view history and the way they view 0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:36.879 like veterans in the league is slightly different than the 0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:41.080 way we came up. Like you know, we revered Mike Rabel, 0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:45.160 Teddy Bruce Ki, Rodney Harrison, Vince Wolf, Ty Warren, Richard Seymour. 0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:49.840 I'm missing you know, dozens of guys, Troy Brown, mister Patriot. 0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:53.000 We revered these guys and we didn't want to let 0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:55.440 them down. We want to disappoint them, and we were 0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.399 more afraid of them than Bill at times. And I 0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:02.919 think that enabled the culture to continue to thrive and 0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:06.840 have success because one generation to the next it was like, hey, 0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:08.960 we're doing this for each other, and we got to 0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:10.240 keep up holding the standard. 0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:13.280 Some fun years, bubs, we. 0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:15.760 Had some times. Now we had some times. We won 0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:18.159 a lot of football games too, which made it, you know, 0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:19.440 extremely fun. 0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:21.679 You noticed that shift in the last couple of years. 0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:24.760 It's just different, right, And I don't want to be 0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:28.879 the old guy that pooh poo's the generation that comes 0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:32.040 after me. It's just different. And I think, you know, 0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:34.639 as leaders, you have to find ways to connect with 0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:39.520 that generation a little different. You know, they're more invested 0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:45.160 in relationship equity, emotional intelligence, and I think you have 0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:48.120 to meet them where they are there and that's fine. 0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:51.160 And I think coaches, right, coaches are having to evolve. 0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:53.880 These guys want to feel like they're partners and what's 0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:57.440 happening were for us, we would blindly take orders. We 0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.400 wouldn't ask questions for these guys. Maybe they need why 0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:04.400 to what they're doing. And that's not a bad thing. 0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:06.520 I mean, that's just it is what it is. And 0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:08.840 you know it's not smart of anybody to sit here 0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.560 and poop pooh that generation. I think you have to 0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.040 evolve and meet these guys where they are. 0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:16.160 Well, the generation before us is poop. 0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:20.360 They certainly were. I like that word poop poo oh. 0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:22.640 Man, I remember this just popped over my head. I 0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:24.720 don't remember. I remember what was it that there was 0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:30.040 a play on the sideline opposite sideline of our special 0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:32.400 team play and some who got who got you really mad? 0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:35.600 Where you almost swore keep Was it a key? 0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:38.000 I think it was a key. Was it in the 0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:38.800 joint practice? 0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:41.640 No, this was in a game. I remember him going, 0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:42.680 what the freak. 0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:44.360 Might have been a key? Might have been a key 0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.760 as well. You know, I just want to accept the 0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:49.880 ruggers straight in case of key where I love a 0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:55.440 key competitor, you know, a Hall of Fame player in 0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:57.880 my books. But he would come out there and he 0:29:58.000 --> 0:29:59.680 you know, he's trying to put his hands on me 0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.200 at me, pushed me out of my house late and 0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:05.400 you know we had some battles out there. He got 0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:07.680 me out of character. He definitely got me out of character. 0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:09.800 Man, keep. 0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:11.600 He was so fun in the locker room. 0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:14.200 Oh he was a great teammate. He was a great teammate. 0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:16.720 I mean, were the years wear like six change. 0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.240 I'm like, I'm only calling you oon chain dog. You 0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:20.280 only got one chain to me? 0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:21.640 He got them snatched? 0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:22.960 He got it. 0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:24.600 No, he snatched. 0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:26.320 That's right, was the reverse he snatched? 0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:27.240 He did? He did. 0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:29.640 He played for the Rems in skin he did. 0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:32.800 He Yeah, he was here. He was old though he 0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:35.480 was not a keep. I didn't say it. He said, 0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:37.680 keep keep. You know you were. 0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:39.800 I know you were. 0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:42.920 You thought you still had no you still had it. 0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:45.080 You were still smart as hell, elite thought you were 0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:45.680 still the elite. 0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:48.560 A keep with one hundred percent agree He ain't, he 0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:52.560 said he He probably would say that, like, it wasn't me. 0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:55.440 That's why he That's why we were able to do 0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:55.880 what we did. 0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:56.320 I did. 0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:57.360 What are you getting ready to say? 0:30:57.400 --> 0:30:58.200 That's why I was m v P. 0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:01.160 That's what he would probably say. That's what he would 0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:04.440 probably say. He probably say, I wasn't in my I 0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:05.400 wasn't in my prime. 0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:08.240 Oh man, Yeah, but he had a pick six against 0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:10.000 Virginia Tech and the Orange Bowl for Kansas. 0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:12.520 He was a Monsters great player. There's the reason why 0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:15.120 we lost in thirteen because he heard his hamstring once. 0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:16.880 His hamstring was only couldn't stop nobody. 0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.920 He was didn't West didn't had run an illegal pick 0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:23.960 play and West like give him a hit pointer or something. 0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:27.479 I think Wes hit us with a bush league, you know, 0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:28.720 chicken wing them and. 0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:31.080 So he's just out for the patrons. 0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:34.200 West out for him should have been our title. 0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:36.680 Wes can we can we talk about roommate days? 0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:40.200 Oh, let's talk about roommate days. Those were the days. 0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:48.400 Eggnog time, eggnog, ebony and ivory together, perfect harmony. Now, 0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:53.640 you guys, good vocals over there. The odd couple that 0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:56.800 show what was that in the fifties or something? That 0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.920 was us? We were the odd couple. But the thing 0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:04.200 I appreciated the most, as different as Julian than I are, 0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:08.120 we always were able to find common ground. And that's 0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:10.280 why it worked. And people wonder why, like how did 0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:12.560 you guys live to the other Like, we always found 0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:17.320 common ground and we had a blast. That was fun man. 0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:25.000 Eggnog, eggnog, cookies cookie time. He get mad at me 0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:26.320 because I never take out the garden. 0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:28.360 He never took out the track. I mean, let's let's 0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.120 be clear. Man never took off the trash. 0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:34.520 I just I mean it was brutal speaking of speaking 0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.960 of roommate though, Like, so, what was it in fourteen? 0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:42.840 We just so we win the Super Bowl fourteen? Slate 0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.840 about to get married, like three weeks later. A week later, 0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:48.000 I had to go out and I had to do 0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:50.120 a bunch of sty I didn't go back to the 0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:52.680 house right away. I go back to the house for 0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:56.280 the parade. Slate takes communal, TV. 0:32:56.600 --> 0:33:00.880 Took the TV, took the dishes, clean out the whole bottom, Len, 0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:02.920 what do you want me to do? I mean, I'm 0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:06.800 not Look, I'm not a high flying, high paid wide receiver. 0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:09.480 I'm a kick cover guy. I need my TV, I 0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:12.840 need my dishes. I need everything that I can get 0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:15.120 my hands. At least give me like a I should 0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:16.840 have given him the heads up. I should have give 0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:17.720 him a curve came in. 0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:20.840 I called the cops. I like, get we get robbed. 0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:24.840 I should have given the super clean this out all 0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:26.680 the way needed that stuff. 0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:28.440 They were getting out of Frisbees for like months after two. 0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:33.960 All right, man, I'm sorry, paper plate, he was paper blatant. 0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:36.840 But you know what I think I think now, looking 0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.880 back as we sit here in this plush space here, 0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:44.200 I think my man did all right without that TV dishes, right, 0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:46.160 I think it worked out all right. By the way, 0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:48.480 that TV still hangs on the wall in my house, 0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:53.040 still the TV. Yeah, that curve, you get that curve 0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:57.160 still got it. That day I was so mad at him. 0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:59.360 In a snowstorm. I had to go to best five, 0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:03.000 got the best, get one a super Bowl. It's like, 0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:03.960 give me that curve thing. 0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:05.720 Oh man, how big is it? 0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:06.640 Gig? 0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:08.520 He got the big dog? Wait? 0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:10.880 But Slade, how did the how did the roommate situation 0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:11.440 get set up? 0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:11.480 Like? 0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:14.920 What's the origin of two guys in Okay? 0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:17.520 First of all, you know, Julian and I had instant connection. 0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:22.560 Uh two late round draft picks, two guys from California, 0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:24.879 two kind of underdogs. So I think we all were. 0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:26.840 People. 0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:31.759 Don't forget you started as a come on, baby, he 0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.880 started as a teamer, and you know he had to grind. 0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:38.160 Nothing was given to my man. But anyways, we go 0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:41.279 out there, we played two thousand and ten and then 0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:45.759 the lockout hits. So I know my financial situation. I 0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:47.600 gotta get out of here. I gotta give up my apartment. 0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.400 So I moved back home, which I think you did too. 0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:52.040 I was in in Pierre's basement. 0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.200 You only live in Pierre War's basement, You're right. So 0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:57.440 we both gave up our living situation. And then when 0:34:57.480 --> 0:34:59.279 we came back it was like, hey, we just got 0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:01.480 to make the team. Like, I'm not thinking about where 0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.480 I'm living. Teams paying for me to live at this hotel. 0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:07.200 I'm standing there. We got to make the team. So 0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:09.760 when we made the team, it was like, oh, shoot, 0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:12.359 we made the team. We don't know where we're going 0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:17.280 to live, so we're scrambling. And I think Ryan Wendell had. 0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:19.080 Had because I was. I went and lived with him 0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:19.319 for a. 0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:23.160 While before in twenty ten, you lived with him, and 0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:27.040 then Ryan Wendell had this house, so Doug King, we 0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:29.680 jumped in. Doug King, by the way, making a killing 0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:35.840 off people, making a killing, just raking people. Anyways, we 0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:36.800 moved in the house. 0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:38.919 Your salary went up, your rent went up. 0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:41.319 There's no doubt. But Julian didn't let that fly though. 0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:44.480 He took care of no. He had he had to 0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:49.359 you know, negotiate. But anyways, Ryan, Julian and I were 0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:52.319 there the first year. Ryan moved out and I was like, hey, man, 0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:54.239 if you want to keep doing this, we'll keep doing this. 0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:58.359 So for another three years, so four years total we 0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:01.400 stayed in that house. At twenty eight paces saved our duccats. 0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:03.319 We had a couple, we brought a couple of couple. 0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:06.560 You know, we had Shane Vereen, We had Dela Rosa 0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:10.800 in DeRosa. I mean, we had we had some characters 0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:11.600 in the out there. 0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:14.600 That was my That was my first exposure to Shane 0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:18.600 Veren eating a Domino's pizza once a week. 0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:20.879 Oh my gosh, once a week and then going out 0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:26.520 there and killing it and the beauty of being young 0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:29.520 and being able to do that. But man, that was 0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:32.840 a fun time. Man, that really was. And uh, you know, 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:36.600 we grew a lot. When we moved in, he was 0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:40.000 just Julian. By the time we left, he was you know, 0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:45.279 jay E eleven or Julian Adelman or whatever they call 0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:50.040 him nowadays. So you know, I saw the whole naturation process. 0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:51.000 It was a beautiful thing. 0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:55.480 I love that pasion, those Walls could talk. 0:36:56.719 --> 0:37:00.359 They have a lot of tails of tail a few 0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:02.279 other jokers. I think very well that lives in that 0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:03.160 house before. 0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:05.239 Bring that one. 0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:08.160 A couple of guys lived there before us. 0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:10.360 Speaking of teamers, who are who are some of the 0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:13.040 teamers that impress you right now? In the league? 0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:15.040 Oh? Man, there are there are a ton of good ones. 0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:17.960 It is really yeah, it really has. I mean I 0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:20.840 feel like every team has, you know, some really great players. 0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:24.120 George Odom for the Niners, I think is as good 0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:27.200 as I've seen over the course of my career. J T. Gray, 0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:34.240 Justin Hardy, cyarn Neal and then my guy Brendan Schooler Schooler, 0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:38.080 who I think is you know, he's got just tremendous 0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:41.160 potential to be I think one of the great players 0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:44.120 that this league has ever seen. I mean, he's that good. 0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:49.440 He's long, like he's six two, he's long, and he's strong, 0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:52.359 and then he's like legit fast, like he'll touch twenty 0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:54.919 two mill an hour. So like, this kid's got all 0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:57.120 the tools. Who is the other guy that used to 0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:01.479 our white boy Corey or no? Who what do you play? 0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:02.720 Cody? 0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:03.319 Oh? 0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.520 Cody D Cody D Cody D Cody d is as. 0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:08.680 Uh, he was too he could. 0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:10.520 I mean, he looked he made he hit twenty two 0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:12.480 mile an hour and he looked like he's jogging, and 0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:15.120 you're like, man, this guy can roll. But I mean, 0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:17.600 there's so many guys that I didn't name, But I 0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:19.640 think the league is in a really great place where 0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:22.960 you go through the roster of almost every team and 0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:24.919 I can point out one or two guys that really 0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.960 jump out on tape and really have bought into the 0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:30.200 idea of playing in the kicking game at a high level. 0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:30.839 Uh. 0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:32.399 You know, I have a ton of respect for these 0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:35.120 guys nowadays, they're they're taking the bar to you know, 0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:35.840 another level. 0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.400 What's the orgin story of the field goal block in Miami? 0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:41.160 Man, Well, you know how it is when you sit 0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.680 in the room with Joe Judge, right, you can take 0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:45.759 twenty minutes and you're on a tangent and like, hey, 0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:47.719 we should do this, and last night we were talking 0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:50.920 about this. So we get in there and you know, 0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:53.520 these guys are like, hey, we got a tail on 0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:57.279 on their operation and it's it's pretty good. It's it's 0:38:57.480 --> 0:39:00.239 pretty much one hundred percent. And I won't just close 0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:02.840 that in case they want to go back Bailey, but 0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:08.240 uh but uh, you know that we had a pretty 0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:11.000 good beat on it, and there's really one guy on 0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.000 the team that we trusted to do that, like that 0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:16.239 has the ability, has the length, who can ben who 0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:18.400 has the quickness and get off? And that was School, 0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:21.920 and you know, we're practicing it during the week and 0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:24.279 you know, a couple of them the timing was like, ah, 0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:27.320 that ain't it. That ain't looking good. But one of 0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:30.880 our assistants, Joe Houston, he finally got the timing and 0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:34.279 the steps with School. So when we got in the 0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:36.839 game and we needed to play, it was like, all right, 0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:39.520 we're gonna call it. And I just knew. I said, 0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:43.480 if he can get the corner, uh, untouched or at 0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:47.359 least minimal contact, he's gonna block it. And he did 0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:49.640 a great job of just bend in that corner, you know, 0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:52.080 timing it up and just you know, again he's the 0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:55.520 kids six too, he's long and and I saw it 0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:58.759 in in my pariff. I saw it. I said, before 0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:01.319 he blocked. I said, oh, he's gonna because he got 0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:05.080 through there untouched. And you know, huge play, huge, huge play, 0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:05.920 huge play. 0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:08.680 Yeah, what's the biggest misconception of teamers. 0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:11.239 Well, you know, I think a lot of people think 0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:14.319 that playing special teams is going out there, you're not 0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:18.839 thinking very much, You're just running and it's chaotic. But 0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:21.440 the reality is there's a lot of communication that occurs 0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:24.640 on the field. There's a lot of thinking on your feet, 0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:28.239 you know, a lot that changes in the middle of plays. 0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:30.520 And you know, you got the best athletes on the field, 0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:34.040 the fastest, some of the strongest, biggest guys out there playing. 0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:37.200 So you know, I think people under sell what it 0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:39.000 takes to play in the King game. You know, I 0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:41.280 hear all the time, Well, this guy's big and fast, 0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:44.200 he can play special teams, Well not necessarily. Can he 0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:47.440 think on his feet? Is he tough mentally and physically? 0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:50.040 And is he going to compete at a high level 0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:53.160 like you got to compete every snap because every snap 0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:56.239 can be the difference between winning and losing. So, you know, 0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:58.879 I think we get a bad rap sometimes. But those 0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:01.239 guys that I mentioned right now that are doing it 0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.880 at high levels across the league, I think are changing that. 0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:06.440 So mount rushmore special teamers. 0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:09.680 And I mean it's tough, right, I mean it's tough, 0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:12.160 But if you're gonna make any kind of Mountain Rushmore, 0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:15.000 you got to start with Steve Tasker. I mean, he's 0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:19.000 the godfather. He started us off. He really took it 0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:23.120 and elevated it to where it is today. I like 0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:27.520 Bill Bates, who played with Dallas for fifteen years and 0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:31.840 really was, you know, an all out guy. There's another 0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:35.200 guy named Elbert Shelby I think it was saying his 0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:38.720 name right, who played in Atlanta, who was a great gunner, 0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:43.319 went to four Pro Bowls. So you know, let's give 0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:47.440 him and Baits half ahead on that Mount Rushmore. And 0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:50.480 then I go current guys. I go guys that you know, 0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:53.719 maybe from our generation. Lorenzo Alexander is the guy that 0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:58.320 I love, just physical presence, relentingle, this relentless effort in 0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:01.359 the way that he played. And then Michael Thomas, who 0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:07.320 was one of our contemporaries. He was in Cincinnati last year. Really, 0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:09.280 you know, you look at the last decade and a half, 0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:14.400 you know, depending on who you asked, the top to, 0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.439 one of the top two guys in the league last 0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:19.759 you know, ten to fifteen years. So uh, that's why 0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:21.640 Mount rush I'm leaving off a ton of guys. I 0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:26.359 hate doing Mount rushmorees because you always leave off very like, yeah, 0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:28.239 I can't put myself on that. I you know, I 0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:32.759 tried to do my giant yes, so yeah, but yeah, 0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:34.320 there's a lot of great players out there that I 0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:35.120 have respect for. 0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:35.840 Mount Rushmore. 0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:38.880 Of R two's Julian Edelman definitely top R two in 0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:41.320 the league. You know, I don't. I don't think people 0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:43.560 appreciate how good you were in the kicking game and 0:42:43.600 --> 0:42:47.520 not just returning the ball covering. Didn't I send you 0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:49.480 a clip of you covering now this year? 0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:51.719 No, but I still remember when you were off sides 0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:52.000 in my. 0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:55.279 Time, I always got to bring that out. I was 0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.880 off side, he had a tackle inside the vibe, I 0:42:57.920 --> 0:42:58.719 was all kick off. 0:42:58.760 --> 0:42:59.799 That's that's very rare. 0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:03.600 Yeah, it's when we were young and spry. The body 0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:06.120 could move. It was a good time. 0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:12.360 Had the block PP had block. Larry Izzo, l Larry honorable. 0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:16.120 No doubt, honorable mention Mount Rushmore, no doubt. I mean, look, 0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:17.919 without Larry Izzo, I never would have had a job 0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:20.800 in New England. You know, guys like that, and you 0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:22.960 know we always talk about like the skill guys and 0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:26.160 and special teams like the gunners and the PPS. But 0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:28.440 I think guys like Nick Bloor that are out there 0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:31.760 right now and othery're like, uh, you know a Miles Kilbrew, 0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:34.560 the size guys Reeves Mavin and Detroit who made the 0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:37.040 Pro Bowl, Like, you gotta give those size guys some 0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:39.839 love too, because you know there's a big man moving 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:45.200 down the field. Well, he was technically a size guy. 0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:50.920 Larry was listed as as two twenty. He probably was 0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:54.840 two o five. Larry were gonna, we're gonna call your 0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:57.600 gonna call you size guy. But those were fun times. Man. 0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:03.040 Now, your dad being Jackie Slater greatest right tackle of 0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:06.080 all time Hall of Famer, how often did you talk 0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:10.120 to your dad during the season, you know, yeah, about 0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:12.839 football or did you how often? Was that a lot? 0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:13.920 A lot honestly? 0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:16.399 And you know, I think when him and I would talk, 0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:19.080 it would be more, you know, how you feel in physically, 0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:22.239 where you at mentally, you know, kind of state of 0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:25.200 the team. We never really talked too much about how 0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.319 I was playing. He'd ask me about plays and certain 0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:31.520 things like that. But the first thing every game i'd 0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:34.080 call him on the way home, the first thing that 0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:37.160 he would say, you know, I thought the old line 0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:41.759 did this I saw this. He watched our line with 0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:44.359 an eagle eye for sixteen years. I mean he could 0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:47.439 tell you, you know, in the third quarter it was third 0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:51.800 and five, this happened with Marcus Cannon or Sebastian Volmer 0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:55.440 did this. Like he just loves interior play. I mean, 0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:58.840 that's that's who he is. He'll he'll tell you a 0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:01.680 good big man's always he's better than a good little man. 0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:04.359 And he just loves that that part of the game. 0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:08.000 So we always connected on that. We were always talking 0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:09.799 about our line and the way that you know, they 0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:13.279 were playing throughout the season. You know, we enjoyed those conversations. 0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:15.320 How old were you when your dad retired? 0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:18.040 So I was in fifth grade, so I was about 0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:21.200 ten eleven years old when my dad retired. We moved 0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:24.040 to Saint Louis for his last year. My mom did 0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:26.760 not want to go. She was like, can you just retire, 0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:28.360 And he's like, I gotta get twenty, I gotta I 0:45:28.360 --> 0:45:30.680 gotta go try to get twenty. So we moved to 0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:34.080 Saint Louis. We were there for eight months and he played. 0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:37.440 He played in one game. He was on pep. He 0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:42.280 had a ruptured his tricep and he retort and rehab, 0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:44.480 and they were like, hey, we just get you out 0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:46.040 there for one game, gets you that twenty of the 0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:48.680 years they mummied his arm up. He got out there 0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:51.399 and you know we were in and out of Saint 0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:52.360 Louis pretty quick. 0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:55.400 So how was it, you know, being did you go 0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:58.520 to all the practices and had to be pretty cool. 0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:03.600 It was a crazy experience for me as a young person, 0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:07.120 like growing up around the game. And you know, the 0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:09.239 love that I have for the game came from my dad, 0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:12.120 but you know, just to be in the locker room, 0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:15.440 to be at the practice facility, to see him training, 0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:19.200 to have his teammates come up and you know start 0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:22.000 talking to me. You know, Isaac Bruce was a guy 0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:24.520 that I really loved. He played with my dad towards 0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:26.840 the end of my dad's career, but even after my 0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:30.000 dad retired, I'd go back and watch him and Tory 0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:33.480 running routes and oh man, it was just such a 0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:35.959 neat experience to grow up around the game. 0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:40.880 So you know, I remember I got to know Jack. 0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:42.560 He's calling Big black Jack. 0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:46.280 Yes, I never do his face. 0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:48.759 No, no, just to me. We would laugh about that. 0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:50.960 We would laugh about that and I'd be like and 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:54.440 one time we had our eggnog time and I was 0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:58.200 on IR and Slate went up to sleep, you know 0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:01.239 me and old Jack sat back down. He saw, you know, 0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:04.800 we saw that crown you know on IRE. I was like, yo, missus, 0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:07.719 slay you want. He took a little little crown. We 0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:10.640 sit in there after about two to three drinks. I 0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:13.960 got Jackie in there showing me his past sets against LT. 0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:17.839 He's over your I used to give this LT. It 0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:19.400 was the coolest experience. 0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:20.120 Oh man. 0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:23.000 I remember that because my dad loved the Rams growing up, 0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:26.239 so he always talked and my dad always talked about, 0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:28.080 you know, getting to hang out with your dad at 0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:30.040 the Super Bowls. It was always so fun. 0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:32.319 It was special for our families. It really was. 0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:39.640 All right, let's go back to around February third, two 0:47:39.760 --> 0:47:42.640 thousand nineteen. This is a segment we do where we 0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:45.200 go through all the pop culture and just kind of 0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:47.839 see what was going on at this time. Number one 0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:49.120 movie Glass. Do you see that? 0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:52.160 I didn't see Glass, It's like the Jackie. 0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:52.520 What was that? 0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:55.520 That was m Night Shyamalan. It was the crossover sequel 0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:59.800 to Unbreakable and Split, so it had Samuel Jackson, Bruce Willis, 0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:03.319 James McAvoy. It was kind of like the culmination of 0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:03.759 those two. 0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:06.040 I'm gonna have to go watch that one. Glass. 0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:07.400 It was all right if you like the m Night 0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:08.000 Stamlon thing. 0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:08.480 I like him. 0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:11.280 Budget of twenty million made two hundred and forty seven million. 0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:14.680 Oh there we go, pretty solid, Roy, Roy, we're box 0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:15.200 office guys. 0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:19.440 Here, box off the guys. Number one song seven Rings 0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:20.640 by Ariana Grande. 0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:22.040 Do you remember this one? 0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:25.239 This was sort of the sing song you one that 0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:27.879 sounded like rain drops on Rose. You know that one? Yeah, 0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:30.280 I want it, I got it. I like it about 0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:30.840 it that one. 0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:32.200 Yeah, okay, seven. 0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.040 Rings we like it around over here. 0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:34.759 Seven rings. 0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:37.080 Yeah, this is a nice We got to get any 0:48:37.120 --> 0:48:38.880 block on the show right ALONGO. 0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:42.520 Caitlin Clark scores sixteen high school. 0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:45.240 She's killing it, still doing it. She's awesome. 0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:47.680 She's doing it back then, she's doing it now. This 0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:48.640 is just the start. 0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:51.919 Incredible. Pulled a little stat on Kaitlyn Clark here on 0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:55.040 threes in IL value rankings. Crazy that that's the thing 0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:58.680 now in college sports. Fourth highest valued college athlete three 0:48:58.680 --> 0:49:02.279 point one million, they say this year three wow. 0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:06.520 Man we'll go back as well. Undeclared for that draft. 0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:08.759 You making more. 0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:11.400 I mean, she's not gonna make that w n B 0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:16.720 A salary right now, she'd make an endorsement endorse on salary. 0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:22.880 She El Choppa was found guilty in all counts. L Choppo, 0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:25.640 we may we may have met one of his tigers. 0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:29.480 We're gonna go back to the next line. Operation Varsity 0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:33.719 Blues Hits March Winging say nothing about brother Choppo, Operation 0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:35.880 Varsity Blues Hits USC. 0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:37.920 What I mean, you're doing all that just to go 0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:41.120 to USC? All now, man, all that to go to USC, 0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:42.600 to go to USC. 0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:44.879 You don't know what this was. This is when Aunt 0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:46.439 Becky did the rowing thing. 0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:50.000 Oh yeah, I mean USC's not even I mean it's 0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:53.000 not even a good school. You're doing all that to 0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:54.880 go to US. I mean, at least if you're going 0:49:54.960 --> 0:49:57.400 to u c l A. With that, it felt like, Okay, 0:49:57.400 --> 0:49:59.880 you're trying to get into the number one public school 0:49:59.880 --> 0:50:04.920 you versity in the country. I just want to number one. 0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:08.040 We passed Berkeley. Put all those bears out there, Dela 0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:12.239 ross is passed Bear Well, I mean that's what they 0:50:12.360 --> 0:50:14.719 like to say. But you know it's it's one thing 0:50:14.760 --> 0:50:18.080 when the baby comes up and rises and grows bigger 0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:22.160 than the original, and it's better. It's like two point zero. We're, 0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:23.080 you know, superior. 0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:27.879 Obviously in the sports world U c l A talk. 0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:30.959 Who is there one guy that linebacker Bruce. 0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:35.600 Bruce Davis BD. My god, whenever there was a u 0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:37.400 c l A guy, sleepy, be all happy. 0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:38.879 I love I love all my. 0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:42.799 C l A know, you know I love Bill Walton. 0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:43.759 Have you ever met Bill Walton? 0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:45.840 I've never met Bill, huge fan. 0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:47.799 Though he's my second favorite huge fan. 0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:49.479 Who's your first? Jack? 0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:52.960 All right? Jack? 0:50:54.360 --> 0:50:58.239 Jackie Patrick Mahomes m v P. This year we won 0:50:58.320 --> 0:51:04.280 the ball college football champion Clemson Heisman Trophy winner Kyler Murray. 0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:07.920 That was Trevor Lawrence Clemson. What's going on? 0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:08.359 My god? 0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:09.960 He needs to have a year this year. I know, 0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:11.359 big year for him. 0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:14.600 Big year, got Mac Jones now mc jones putting that 0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:15.279 pressure on him. 0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:18.879 Now that Mac Daddy. He's back in his home environment, right, 0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:21.880 I'm slinging that pill. You know, he's getting some vitamin D. 0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:23.680 So the depression is probably down. 0:51:23.560 --> 0:51:25.440 Back in his old child modeling days. 0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:29.919 NBA streaks Russell Westbrook eleven straight triple doubles that'll probably 0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:31.160 never go crazy. 0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:32.600 Yeah, I thought he. 0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:35.040 Went to No, he didn't go there. He was there 0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:36.200 with me four time. 0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:38.160 You guys, he don't. 0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:39.839 He doesn't know me from Adam's house cat. 0:51:39.920 --> 0:51:43.680 But shout out Trussell, he should get to know you. 0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:48.160 James Harden streak of thirty plus point games ends at 0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:49.000 thirty two games. 0:51:49.080 --> 0:51:50.080 That's the record. 0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:51.360 Yep, crazy, that's crazy. 0:51:51.480 --> 0:51:57.280 Joker gets buckets, he sure does. Notable NFL retirements Reeves, 0:51:58.360 --> 0:52:02.400 Joe Thomas, Jason Witt, James Harrison, Dwight Freeny. 0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:07.000 It's a list right in right before the season, is it? 0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:07.279 Is it? 0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:10.840 This is there last year, so ReBs is and Thomas's 0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:12.600 I think Fredie's into No. 0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:15.560 James Harrison, I mean it was two time defensive part 0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:18.040 of the year right still one scari I was just 0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:20.000 gonna say, like, like, can. 0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:20.839 State a lump I was. 0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:24.280 When he was on the team. I was still afraid 0:52:24.320 --> 0:52:27.320 of the guy and think I was like that Joker 0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:30.040 is intimidating. Now I loved him, Oh my gosh. 0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:32.640 He would come in there this deebo shirt, Deebo. 0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:35.520 I would pay to see him in the weight room. 0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:36.880 I mean The guy is an animal. 0:52:36.920 --> 0:52:40.000 He lived in the weight room. I mean yeah, he 0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:45.680 wear like old sweatsuits that were like super baggy old. Remember. 0:52:45.760 --> 0:52:49.560 Yeah, he's very deceiving because you can't tell how big. 0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:52.360 You could see because he was only five. He's probably 0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:55.319 about five eleven and he was he was too sick. 0:52:55.600 --> 0:53:00.920 Five people wide, Oh my god. Games with Names is 0:53:00.960 --> 0:53:03.880 brought to you by my friends at Win Las Vegas 0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:07.799 and Encore Boston Harbor. 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We 0:54:36.840 --> 0:54:40.080 know how that season ended, another loss to the Patriots. 0:54:40.360 --> 0:54:43.080 A bunch of guys on this team, Jared Goff, Young, 0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:46.040 Jared Golf, Todd Gurley, Aaron Donald. 0:54:45.760 --> 0:54:48.479 Corey little Is Gurly and this was Gurly. 0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:50.520 Gurley was already part of the year, wasn't he? 0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:51.000 Was he? 0:54:51.320 --> 0:54:54.040 I believe so Keith to leave brought him in prior 0:54:54.040 --> 0:54:56.399 to the season. You know, he's a Wade Phillips guy. 0:54:56.760 --> 0:54:59.000 Andrew Whitworth was in his about one hundred season here 0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:02.400 at Worth still ball, Marcus Peters and Dominicans who they 0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:06.040 brought in there. Brandon Cooks, former Patriot prior to the 0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:09.279 season as well, Greg the leg zer line. Cooper Cup 0:55:09.680 --> 0:55:12.000 was hurt, hurt for this one towards a cl in 0:55:12.080 --> 0:55:16.160 November missed the rest of the season. Johnny Hecker, Johnny Johnny, 0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:17.279 I mean, I feel like. 0:55:17.560 --> 0:55:19.560 It's all Johnny's an all time great now he was 0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:19.960 a bill love. 0:55:20.000 --> 0:55:20.719 Johnny Hecker didn't. 0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:22.719 Johnny Hecker was an all time punter. 0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:26.160 Who is who were the brother him or who are 0:55:26.200 --> 0:55:28.120 the brothers? Oh cole Quits? 0:55:29.640 --> 0:55:31.799 Yeah, when you were next to the cole Quits. 0:55:31.520 --> 0:55:33.759 Or Johnny Hecker, when you when you would be in 0:55:33.840 --> 0:55:36.600 warm ups and you'd be next to us punting, it 0:55:36.719 --> 0:55:40.000 sounded like a cannon going off. Those guys had such big, 0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:41.280 like crazy legs. 0:55:42.360 --> 0:55:45.200 And Johnny's a big old dude too, like six four 0:55:45.360 --> 0:55:45.919 six five. 0:55:46.360 --> 0:55:47.759 Wait, why would you be next to him? 0:55:47.840 --> 0:55:47.880 Like? 0:55:48.040 --> 0:55:48.759 Is that how they think? 0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:51.399 Walk by him? I'd always just like I am down 0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:57.040 until my man trying to mind and never never look 0:55:57.080 --> 0:55:59.960 at him, never look at him. Just I'd always look 0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:01.640 get their punt and just shake my head. 0:56:02.080 --> 0:56:04.560 Now would other like returners actually like talk to those guys. 0:56:04.880 --> 0:56:07.239 They have the special team or bond right now. 0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:11.600 The special like the snappers, punters, kickers, they have their 0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:14.480 own like they're in the world. They're in their own 0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:17.320 like brotherhood, which I respect. I like how they I 0:56:17.480 --> 0:56:18.200 like how they operate. 0:56:18.480 --> 0:56:20.680 They do back if we could try to come talk 0:56:20.760 --> 0:56:22.960 to me. I never talked to him. Oh you know, 0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:25.040 you try to butter you up. You know there's guys 0:56:25.080 --> 0:56:27.080 that was trying to butter you up. He was trying 0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:29.239 to but oh wait, I get out of here, dude. 0:56:29.280 --> 0:56:33.439 Oh never like any now, Oh this dude's killing should 0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:35.840 have been taking that butter. I wouldn't because that suckers 0:56:35.880 --> 0:56:36.560 doing right now. 0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:41.920 But I think, uh this yeah slate, Uh Girley was 0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:43.719 Offensive Player of the Year of the year before this, 0:56:43.880 --> 0:56:45.799 so okay, this team started eight. 0:56:45.920 --> 0:56:45.960 No. 0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:49.799 Also, I had notable wins. That crazy Monday night game 0:56:49.880 --> 0:56:52.719 over the Chiefs. Remember that one the shootout, Yeah, call 0:56:52.800 --> 0:56:56.520 it like fifty fifty four fifty one wild. That was 0:56:56.560 --> 0:56:59.279 a big game for him. That year, Aaron Donald led 0:56:59.320 --> 0:57:01.040 the league in sacks and a half. 0:57:01.080 --> 0:57:02.520 I mean, by the way, I just like to go 0:57:02.640 --> 0:57:05.439 on record and saying in my book, he's top three 0:57:05.560 --> 0:57:09.759 defensive player all time. And on that list is LT. 0:57:10.880 --> 0:57:14.000 Reggie White and Aaron Who's. 0:57:13.760 --> 0:57:17.320 The fourth, Who's the Who's the mount Rushmore? 0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:19.160 But those all big guys. 0:57:20.760 --> 0:57:23.360 You know, I give you you almost gotta you almost 0:57:23.400 --> 0:57:26.760 got to make a separate list, right, But those three 0:57:26.840 --> 0:57:31.560 guys changed the way the game is played and looked at. 0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:36.000 I mean LT is LT. I mean his name will 0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:37.840 be as long as we're talking about football, we'll be 0:57:37.840 --> 0:57:38.440 talking about LT. 0:57:38.600 --> 0:57:41.080 Can you remember any LT stories from Bill? 0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:44.920 I don't know that I want to repeat those. This 0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:48.160 guy loved, he loves LT. He love and rightfully so, 0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:51.800 rightfully so. And then Reggie is like, if you ask 0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:53.920 my dad, Reggie is the best because he had to 0:57:54.000 --> 0:57:57.040 go battle against them. But to be you know, six five, 0:57:57.640 --> 0:57:59.720 three hundred pounds and move like that and be that, 0:58:02.120 --> 0:58:04.200 I mean, I don't know that we've seen a player 0:58:04.360 --> 0:58:08.160 with that physical makeup. And then this joker now. 0:58:08.120 --> 0:58:09.000 Here is he got that? 0:58:09.680 --> 0:58:12.760 Miles Garrett has it, But I mean Miles Garrett don't 0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:14.840 have that hump move like my man had that hump 0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:19.000 Like he's throwing three hundred pounders out the club and 0:58:19.160 --> 0:58:23.680 one arm, you know. And and this joker here, the 0:58:23.800 --> 0:58:25.240 ceren Donal. Now, I'll tell you what. 0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:28.360 Which we'll get into it to the game which makes 0:58:28.440 --> 0:58:32.360 it this This game was so impressive with how our 0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:35.360 offensive line handled him. Oh my god, shout out Joe Toney, 0:58:35.440 --> 0:58:40.600 Joe Toney had one stoned him twice on the driver. 0:58:40.840 --> 0:58:42.840 We needed best guard, best guarden football. 0:58:42.960 --> 0:58:44.960 Mister Slaterer would have been proud, no doubt. 0:58:45.280 --> 0:58:48.240 I'm like, how about Joe Tuney's career, best guarden football 0:58:48.280 --> 0:58:50.280 right now? And how many super Bowl does this guy won? 0:58:50.560 --> 0:58:51.320 He's gonna yet? 0:58:51.400 --> 0:58:51.680 Five? 0:58:52.360 --> 0:58:52.520 Yet? 0:58:52.600 --> 0:58:54.880 Five? He got five, He's got all of them with 0:58:55.160 --> 0:58:57.520 This was his last year with us, but he didn't 0:58:57.560 --> 0:58:58.440 win the fourteen one. 0:58:58.480 --> 0:58:59.600 He's got four, he's got four. 0:58:59.520 --> 0:59:00.200 He's got far. 0:59:00.360 --> 0:59:02.760 Yeah, right now, this guy's this guy's about to win. 0:59:03.120 --> 0:59:03.960 This guy's. 0:59:06.280 --> 0:59:06.880 He's a stud. 0:59:07.160 --> 0:59:08.360 He is great. 0:59:10.800 --> 0:59:13.320 A little more on this Rams team. Some notable coaches 0:59:13.360 --> 0:59:16.320 we talked about. Wade Phillips, D C. McVeigh was the 0:59:16.360 --> 0:59:19.000 de facto OC another Patriots got. They had Jed Fish 0:59:19.040 --> 0:59:22.480 on this staff. Jack Taylor, current Bengals coach, was a 0:59:22.560 --> 0:59:25.800 quarterbacks coach on this one. John Fossil's Boom Games coach, 0:59:25.800 --> 0:59:28.400 shut up booms and it was it was only mcvey's 0:59:28.400 --> 0:59:31.919 second season as the head coach. Was like three three yeah, 0:59:32.000 --> 0:59:34.439 full boy genius, like with Jules and I were watching 0:59:34.480 --> 0:59:38.160 on the patio that two days ago, the NFL films version, 0:59:38.360 --> 0:59:40.400 and like he was full on like starstruck by Bill. 0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:42.160 Before the game, it really felt like it didn't it. 0:59:43.760 --> 0:59:46.360 So we were watching just to research this, and we 0:59:46.440 --> 0:59:49.280 were watching the NFL films on why the Patriots won. 0:59:50.160 --> 0:59:54.320 I mean, you would never have thought today that Bill 0:59:54.400 --> 0:59:58.920 Belichick is is Bill Belichick? After watching that, this is 0:59:59.200 --> 1:00:03.440 this guy's the best. He says, like the greatest coach. 1:00:03.320 --> 1:00:03.919 Of all time. 1:00:04.200 --> 1:00:08.480 Now Raheem Morris is getting a job that media media 1:00:08.600 --> 1:00:11.560 turns on you. He told us that, remember that quick. 1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:14.160 He told us that there's gonna be a nay immedia. 1:00:13.880 --> 1:00:17.880 Turns on me. Hey, they have turn Now those joking 1:00:18.480 --> 1:00:21.360 to me. The people in media control the narrative and 1:00:21.400 --> 1:00:24.600 the conversation and what happens in our league way more 1:00:24.680 --> 1:00:28.000 than they should, way more than they should. I'm convinced 1:00:28.000 --> 1:00:29.880 of that. That's a different pod though. 1:00:30.120 --> 1:00:33.520 That's the do we fight against that and we like 1:00:33.600 --> 1:00:35.680 to celebrate awesome players in awesome games. 1:00:36.200 --> 1:00:37.880 No narrative bullshit. 1:00:38.040 --> 1:00:40.560 Yeah, And that's why I'm sitting here on this pod. 1:00:41.640 --> 1:00:44.960 I respect the host and the host people. 1:00:45.360 --> 1:00:47.960 Let's go to the New England Patriots. Set the stage, 1:00:47.960 --> 1:00:48.760 where's Jackie? 1:00:48.880 --> 1:00:49.040 There? 1:00:49.080 --> 1:00:53.640 We go eleven and five New England Patriots. A lot 1:00:53.680 --> 1:00:54.400 of dudes on this. 1:00:54.480 --> 1:00:57.160 Team fort not our best team. 1:00:57.400 --> 1:01:00.480 It was interesting with with some of the the sort 1:01:00.520 --> 1:01:02.640 of back to back there were two two game losing streaks, 1:01:02.960 --> 1:01:04.840 which is very uncharacteristic in one season. 1:01:04.880 --> 1:01:06.440 For the lost in December, I think. 1:01:06.680 --> 1:01:08.840 Yeah, there was that loss to the Steelers in December, 1:01:08.960 --> 1:01:13.439 and then previous week was the miracle in Miami, which 1:01:13.600 --> 1:01:17.560 we we know we shall not speak of Dola Bolden. 1:01:17.800 --> 1:01:21.600 Goshlden had two long tugs. Oh my god. 1:01:21.840 --> 1:01:24.040 And then earlier he's still. 1:01:23.920 --> 1:01:26.240 Fast, looks good God they said, is he was gone 1:01:26.280 --> 1:01:27.440 twenty fifteen years. 1:01:27.320 --> 1:01:30.120 Ago and guy has been overcoming the odds so whole time. 1:01:30.440 --> 1:01:33.480 And then uh, Week two and three were lost at 1:01:33.600 --> 1:01:37.080 Jacksonville and then a lost to Maddy p that Monday 1:01:37.160 --> 1:01:40.240 night game in Detroit. So those were two double digit 1:01:40.360 --> 1:01:43.200 back to back losses, which was very uncharacteristic of a 1:01:43.280 --> 1:01:43.960 Patriots team. 1:01:44.240 --> 1:01:45.880 Oh yeah, and the Titans. 1:01:46.720 --> 1:01:48.200 And then in the middle of the season, yeah week 1:01:48.240 --> 1:01:50.800 ten years oh there that Titans lost by twenty four 1:01:53.520 --> 1:01:59.400 overcame overcame and found our our rhythm. Eighth straight AFC 1:01:59.600 --> 1:02:04.080 East I or a trade AFC Championship appearing. Sorry, this 1:02:04.360 --> 1:02:08.120 was coming off a season where lost to the Chris 1:02:08.240 --> 1:02:12.160 Long led Eagles. Unfortunately, some notable rookies on this team, 1:02:12.200 --> 1:02:14.880 Isaiah win Sony Michelle, who was huge down the Strea 1:02:15.400 --> 1:02:18.240 Big Four, lost Cooks and Dola in the off season, 1:02:18.280 --> 1:02:23.680 which which was a bummer. Jewels started the season suspended 1:02:23.920 --> 1:02:29.200 bummer on vacation. Slate re signed prior to this season, 1:02:29.200 --> 1:02:30.800 which we love. Two year deal. 1:02:30.880 --> 1:02:37.600 Almost left where Pittsburgh really to Pittsburgh. Huh yeah, they were, 1:02:38.080 --> 1:02:43.120 you know, they're trying to harball me negotiations. Oh, they 1:02:43.120 --> 1:02:44.880 almost had to get out. I almost had to pull 1:02:44.960 --> 1:02:49.560 emergency shoot get out Steel City Digress. I don't mean 1:02:49.640 --> 1:02:50.800 to cut you off there, Jack. 1:02:50.800 --> 1:02:52.880 Yeah, no, man, I love that. I was always curious. 1:02:54.320 --> 1:02:59.120 I get the call in the airport. Yeah, needless sad. 1:02:59.360 --> 1:03:03.360 Yeah, baby, Look, we don't need agents here, like like Slate, 1:03:03.880 --> 1:03:06.600 you're just gonna tell him. He's gonna tell Nick. Why 1:03:06.600 --> 1:03:09.240 don't we just get this thing done exactly how I go, 1:03:09.800 --> 1:03:12.240 exactly exactly how the coach. I just want my agent 1:03:12.320 --> 1:03:12.760 to handle it. 1:03:13.040 --> 1:03:16.480 Look, Coach, I don't understand the numbers. Yeah, I don't know. 1:03:16.560 --> 1:03:20.000 I just don't understand. Knowing full well, I know all 1:03:20.040 --> 1:03:22.200 the numbers every coach. I don't know the numbers. I 1:03:22.240 --> 1:03:24.439 don't know. I don't know it's getting paid. 1:03:24.520 --> 1:03:30.520 What Hey. Thankfully Slate came back. Lost, Dola lost, Soldier lost, 1:03:30.600 --> 1:03:34.040 Butler lost, Dion Lewis all the free agency, lost a 1:03:34.080 --> 1:03:36.400 lot of guys. But we had CP we had Slate, 1:03:36.440 --> 1:03:40.840 we had Devlin was two huge this year. High Tower 1:03:41.000 --> 1:03:43.400 was huge this year. Kyle van Noy was a beast 1:03:43.440 --> 1:03:46.160 this year. Patrick chungk had both the mccordions and Coties 1:03:46.480 --> 1:03:47.880 needed him, needed. 1:03:48.040 --> 1:03:48.840 Needed both of them. 1:03:48.920 --> 1:03:51.880 And then this was the play of the game, no doubt. 1:03:52.160 --> 1:03:54.200 This was the year we almost lost kind of did 1:03:54.280 --> 1:03:58.920 for like a day. Uh McDaniels to Indy. Oh remember 1:03:59.000 --> 1:04:01.360 that famous story you're day in the bathroom or whatever 1:04:03.040 --> 1:04:04.360 in the bathroom for an hour or wasn't that the 1:04:04.400 --> 1:04:06.600 story I got about that? Yeah, he came back. 1:04:07.000 --> 1:04:09.000 That was next year or that was last year. 1:04:09.120 --> 1:04:09.280 Yeah. 1:04:09.480 --> 1:04:11.520 So prior to this season, I was at that Super Bowl. 1:04:11.520 --> 1:04:12.760 I was trying. I was trying to sit in that 1:04:12.880 --> 1:04:17.440 box with guys. That's your guy, fun intended, that is 1:04:17.480 --> 1:04:20.280 your guy though is Yeah, guys like, oh I got 1:04:20.280 --> 1:04:22.400 an extra ticket, I'm sitting in the colts box. I'm like, 1:04:22.400 --> 1:04:26.000 all right, I get in there. I'm you know, eating 1:04:26.080 --> 1:04:30.880 some French onion dip, enjoying the pregame festivities. Get a 1:04:30.960 --> 1:04:34.240 tap on my shoulder, sir, you can't sit in this box. 1:04:36.200 --> 1:04:36.680 Booted me. 1:04:36.800 --> 1:04:39.480 Got a lot of nerves. Wow, I actually. 1:04:39.240 --> 1:04:42.240 Respected it because you probably would have done the same 1:04:42.320 --> 1:04:46.840 thing if you were him. Nah, you to let Cooper 1:04:46.880 --> 1:04:48.000 cup comes sit in your box. 1:04:48.200 --> 1:04:50.439 Yeah, I like Coop. I interviewed him for the Fox 1:04:50.520 --> 1:04:50.760 this year. 1:04:50.840 --> 1:04:54.959 Baby, let's Coop. We used to a good dude. 1:04:55.200 --> 1:04:58.120 He is, he's training together, man, And before we get 1:04:58.120 --> 1:05:00.320 into this game, gotta give a little shine to the 1:05:00.400 --> 1:05:02.640 rest of the coaching staff. This was an all time 1:05:02.680 --> 1:05:06.360 star studied Pat's coaching staff Joe Judge, Scar Ivan fears 1:05:06.680 --> 1:05:09.560 Chaddy O'Shea who he talked about earlier, Nick Kayley, b 1:05:09.840 --> 1:05:14.080 Flow Ziegler, and uh DeMarcus Covington who's now the d C. 1:05:14.880 --> 1:05:16.240 Had a lot of a lot of dudes, a lot 1:05:16.280 --> 1:05:17.560 of good brain trust guys in there. 1:05:17.720 --> 1:05:20.320 By the way, one guy you cannot leave off that 1:05:20.440 --> 1:05:24.880 coaching staff Brendan Daily, who by the way, has won 1:05:26.080 --> 1:05:31.640 six Super bowls NOWT won with US Kansas City. Insane 1:05:31.800 --> 1:05:34.360 BD choking mine end up with ten of those bad boys. 1:05:34.520 --> 1:05:37.120 I remember he came from Kansas City. 1:05:37.080 --> 1:05:41.800 Right there was something like to Minnesota to hear it. 1:05:41.880 --> 1:05:45.640 Was boys with Chad Yes because they were always close. Yes, 1:05:45.920 --> 1:05:48.280 And then went to k went back to Kansas City. 1:05:48.400 --> 1:05:49.200 All he does is win. 1:05:49.920 --> 1:05:52.919 Yeah, man, he was. He's had quite the coaching career. 1:05:53.400 --> 1:05:57.720 Vikings Rams Vikings Patriots in now Kansas. 1:05:57.400 --> 1:05:59.800 City Vikings Rams Vikings. 1:06:00.000 --> 1:06:02.880 Also Ryan Allen, Joe Cardona, and Steven Gotkowska on this. 1:06:02.880 --> 1:06:03.320 Team as well. 1:06:04.280 --> 1:06:07.439 Ryan Allen game of his life. Shout out Ryan Allen. 1:06:07.720 --> 1:06:08.680 Cut his tail off. 1:06:08.880 --> 1:06:11.800 Then we drafted another punter, Jewels Often like tells a 1:06:11.840 --> 1:06:15.080 story about winning is fun coming off the Eagles. 1:06:15.240 --> 1:06:17.720 You have your perspective on that whole like winning. 1:06:17.520 --> 1:06:20.680 His fun, but on the whiteboard, yeah, I mean, look, 1:06:20.960 --> 1:06:25.760 I'm in agreement with Julian on this. Like clearly winning 1:06:25.880 --> 1:06:30.840 is fun for a long time and it continues to 1:06:30.880 --> 1:06:33.280 be the case. People were taking shots at what we 1:06:33.400 --> 1:06:35.880 had going on over here, like you know, they don't 1:06:35.960 --> 1:06:37.720 do this, they don't do that. That's not fun. This 1:06:37.880 --> 1:06:40.520 is not fun. Like, first of all, fun is not 1:06:40.640 --> 1:06:44.760 the top priority grown man. If I want to have fun, 1:06:44.800 --> 1:06:48.120 I'll take my kids to Disneyland. But what is fun 1:06:49.280 --> 1:06:52.240 is winning football. What is not fun? It's going forward 1:06:52.240 --> 1:06:56.120 to thirteen so I can tell you winning football games, 1:06:56.480 --> 1:06:59.240 there's nothing like it. And to be able to do 1:06:59.400 --> 1:07:01.919 that with people that you care about, to be able 1:07:01.960 --> 1:07:04.520 to build relationships, to be able to you know, do 1:07:04.640 --> 1:07:08.080 all those things, and to put winning on top is 1:07:08.160 --> 1:07:10.720 like the cherry. I mean, there's nothing better than winning 1:07:10.800 --> 1:07:11.280 this league. 1:07:11.760 --> 1:07:13.160 But you remember I had to go away for my 1:07:13.280 --> 1:07:16.600 vacation right when I left because of all the talks 1:07:17.000 --> 1:07:17.960 I put on the whiteboard. 1:07:18.720 --> 1:07:21.320 Winning is fun, winning is fun, which stayed up there 1:07:21.400 --> 1:07:24.000 for long, all that season, all that season, and may 1:07:24.040 --> 1:07:27.240 have even carried over afterwards, but stayed there. No truer 1:07:27.280 --> 1:07:28.360 words have ever been spoken. 1:07:28.440 --> 1:07:31.280 If you win and become MVP, you also get to 1:07:31.320 --> 1:07:32.600 go to Disneyland. 1:07:32.440 --> 1:07:36.280 Correct, And you get to host podcasts, and you get 1:07:36.280 --> 1:07:38.280 to live in just sick cribs. 1:07:39.480 --> 1:07:44.280 So you know you should see slates newly built crib 1:07:44.360 --> 1:07:45.200 over and where's it? 1:07:45.320 --> 1:07:46.440 Then it's okay, It's. 1:07:46.360 --> 1:07:51.360 It's not like yeah right, Jack, Let's get the game 1:07:51.480 --> 1:07:52.680 lead up, all right, the lead. 1:07:52.640 --> 1:07:55.840 Up to this game. We're talking title games here. These 1:07:55.880 --> 1:07:59.720 are two memorable ones the NFC title. The Rams went 1:07:59.800 --> 1:08:03.120 down then Orleans and beat them on that controversial no 1:08:03.240 --> 1:08:04.360 pass interference call him. 1:08:05.920 --> 1:08:07.880 Brutal, just little brutal. 1:08:08.560 --> 1:08:11.200 The worst in that call was then the challenging p 1:08:11.360 --> 1:08:12.080 I the year after. 1:08:14.920 --> 1:08:17.240 I mean, I think it was like a defensive receiver 1:08:17.360 --> 1:08:17.720 hit too. 1:08:18.000 --> 1:08:18.559 It was wild. 1:08:18.760 --> 1:08:19.120 It was. 1:08:21.439 --> 1:08:26.639 P I either one of them, which is crazy, bad, insane. 1:08:27.000 --> 1:08:28.000 And then we can't forget. 1:08:28.200 --> 1:08:30.760 You know, somebody's gotta fire one of them refs. Now, 1:08:31.439 --> 1:08:33.880 I gotta start docking these jokers with their miss calls 1:08:33.960 --> 1:08:36.040 like that. And I can say that because I'm no 1:08:36.120 --> 1:08:40.160 longer an employee of the NFL. The referee. We gotta go, 1:08:40.280 --> 1:08:42.600 come on, fellas, Yeah, we gotta do better than what 1:08:42.680 --> 1:08:42.960 we're doing. 1:08:43.160 --> 1:08:45.800 You know, there's there's there are a group of referees 1:08:45.840 --> 1:08:50.280 that you like. Yeah, but there are a group of guys, 1:08:50.840 --> 1:08:54.080 you know what I'm talking about, love that love that 1:08:54.200 --> 1:08:56.800 little authority, love that authority. 1:08:57.479 --> 1:08:57.720 They did. 1:08:58.560 --> 1:09:01.200 They kind of try to got no back. Looking like 1:09:01.280 --> 1:09:03.479 a principal out there. You can't act like a principal. 1:09:03.520 --> 1:09:05.560 You gotta have a relationship with the guys. It's in 1:09:05.680 --> 1:09:06.439 fire environment. 1:09:06.520 --> 1:09:09.200 You gotta have relationship with gotta have relationship, and a 1:09:09.240 --> 1:09:11.200 lot of you guys they like to sun us like, 1:09:11.320 --> 1:09:13.080 you know, like we're little kids and stuff. 1:09:13.320 --> 1:09:16.280 So I don't like I'm making twelve million dollars this year. 1:09:17.080 --> 1:09:20.920 Get the I never made no twelve million dollars. But 1:09:21.040 --> 1:09:23.280 I do know all this. If I'm thirty eight years 1:09:23.320 --> 1:09:25.080 old out there, I don't need you sonning me. I 1:09:25.080 --> 1:09:27.400 don't need like I'm a grown man. Okay. And then 1:09:27.439 --> 1:09:31.519 I also want to specifically call out the crew that 1:09:31.720 --> 1:09:35.320 Reugh freed our game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1:09:35.439 --> 1:09:39.960 two thousand and what year was that twenty one for 1:09:40.320 --> 1:09:42.439 calling me for a runn out of bounds when I 1:09:42.520 --> 1:09:44.320 forced the phone when we lost the game of Tampa 1:09:44.320 --> 1:09:46.439 Bay Bucks. Whoever was on that crew, that was an 1:09:46.479 --> 1:09:49.120 atrocious call, one of the worst calls I've seen in 1:09:49.200 --> 1:09:52.320 my career. You you played a large role and calltion 1:09:52.520 --> 1:09:54.880 us that football game, and shame on you for that. 1:09:55.200 --> 1:09:57.400 And this is a man of integrity that doesn't do that. 1:09:58.160 --> 1:10:00.240 I don't know how we got on that, but Theugh ring. 1:10:00.320 --> 1:10:02.120 I got a big time issue with the ref ring. 1:10:02.320 --> 1:10:04.600 You know, I've heard like an internet like idea to 1:10:04.760 --> 1:10:06.800 have Reugh press conferences after the game. 1:10:07.240 --> 1:10:09.320 Hold account hold accountability. 1:10:09.840 --> 1:10:12.320 So we need more is a society, we need more 1:10:12.360 --> 1:10:12.960 account of Bill. 1:10:13.040 --> 1:10:15.439 That was a Bill Vinovich crew led uh crew that 1:10:15.560 --> 1:10:16.599 day in fox Borough? 1:10:16.960 --> 1:10:17.720 Was it? That was? 1:10:18.000 --> 1:10:23.360 But come on, Bill brother, the signs just like Harry, 1:10:24.040 --> 1:10:25.760 Oh God. 1:10:26.360 --> 1:10:27.040 Was that this year? 1:10:27.320 --> 1:10:27.360 No? 1:10:28.120 --> 1:10:30.479 Wait, ye, this is the year you lost. 1:10:30.280 --> 1:10:31.880 To the Titans. This is the next year. 1:10:32.160 --> 1:10:34.960 Yeah, that was bad. That was which And then they 1:10:34.960 --> 1:10:36.440 said he stepped out of mounts. 1:10:36.600 --> 1:10:37.280 Oh he didn't. 1:10:37.479 --> 1:10:41.479 And before that there was like we lost that. That 1:10:41.600 --> 1:10:45.240 was like I've always wanted the blast. It feels good. 1:10:46.479 --> 1:10:48.320 It feels good to have the platform to do so 1:10:48.560 --> 1:10:49.080 let it spray. 1:10:49.160 --> 1:10:53.280 I love it. Back back to the lead up of 1:10:53.360 --> 1:10:57.120 this one, can't forget what the Patriots did in their 1:10:57.160 --> 1:11:01.080 AFC title game going into Arrowhead, winning that thing thirty 1:11:01.160 --> 1:11:02.800 seven thirty one in overtime. 1:11:02.479 --> 1:11:06.720 Favorite, no doubt, favorite win of my career, scoring reel 1:11:07.240 --> 1:11:08.920 unsuper unreal. 1:11:09.320 --> 1:11:11.600 Now, my man had a very controversial play in that 1:11:11.760 --> 1:11:17.280 game on a punt. He didn't touch it, but he 1:11:17.360 --> 1:11:20.240 attempted to fill a punt off the top, and because 1:11:20.280 --> 1:11:23.560 my man can't strap his gloves off the strap of 1:11:23.640 --> 1:11:25.519 his glove almost touched the wall. I don't know if 1:11:25.520 --> 1:11:27.760 you guys remember that. I remember, but we watched that 1:11:27.880 --> 1:11:30.040 play several times this year. You know, they had the 1:11:30.080 --> 1:11:32.880 Bears TV running and I remember going to him and I, 1:11:33.160 --> 1:11:35.599 did you touch it? Did you touch the ball? 1:11:36.320 --> 1:11:36.360 No? 1:11:36.560 --> 1:11:39.280 I didn't even touch it. I didn't haven't. I didn't 1:11:39.320 --> 1:11:41.360 try to touch it. And then I look up at 1:11:41.400 --> 1:11:44.519 the thing. Yes, you tried to touch it. You tried 1:11:44.560 --> 1:11:47.160 to fill the ball. Scoop that puppy. Make a play, 1:11:47.760 --> 1:11:50.160 play it on the first bounds. Doesn't matter. We won 1:11:50.240 --> 1:11:50.519 the game. 1:11:50.960 --> 1:11:52.920 We threw a pick the very next play. 1:11:54.560 --> 1:11:54.720 Is that. 1:11:54.840 --> 1:11:57.519 A ball doesn't lie. Situation didn't touch it. Might be 1:11:57.960 --> 1:11:59.560 I don't know. We won the game, doesn't matter. You 1:11:59.600 --> 1:12:01.680 were envy at the last game of the season. That's 1:12:01.720 --> 1:12:02.320 all that matters. 1:12:02.680 --> 1:12:03.080 And uh. 1:12:03.400 --> 1:12:05.880 Also, leading up to this game we mentioned earlier no 1:12:06.000 --> 1:12:09.639 Cooper Cup. This was also expected. Everybody was saying shootout, shootout. 1:12:09.920 --> 1:12:13.160 Great offense is great offense. Two good defenses, but awesome 1:12:13.200 --> 1:12:16.040 offenses like over under was set at fifty six points, 1:12:16.080 --> 1:12:18.280 didn't even come close. And there was also the age 1:12:18.320 --> 1:12:22.360 disparity conversation. You got Bill sixty six at the time 1:12:22.439 --> 1:12:27.439 of this game, McVeigh thirty three, Brady forty one, Golf 1:12:27.520 --> 1:12:31.639 forty four. So everyone, that's why making the young Bucks 1:12:31.720 --> 1:12:34.800 versus the old guard type type argument here. 1:12:35.360 --> 1:12:35.720 Keep it going. 1:12:35.840 --> 1:12:37.599 Jackie should get into the game a little bit here into. 1:12:37.520 --> 1:12:39.200 The game, all right, before we get into like what 1:12:39.360 --> 1:12:41.720 was was there any skotting report things to take a 1:12:42.400 --> 1:12:43.760 stop Aaron Donald stop? 1:12:44.400 --> 1:12:47.679 Oh yeah, get a body on ninety nine. 1:12:48.560 --> 1:12:52.120 Stop Aaron Donald. Beat man coverage on third and short. 1:12:52.720 --> 1:12:56.080 That's why we dialed up the Beaver, which was like 1:12:56.160 --> 1:12:58.800 a longer pass play on a third and short, because 1:12:58.800 --> 1:13:00.960 we knew Wade Phillips knew what he was going to do. 1:13:01.479 --> 1:13:05.040 He's a very man coverage type play caller. And then 1:13:05.080 --> 1:13:06.960 they started trying to give a zone and then that's 1:13:06.960 --> 1:13:09.400 where they were matching me up on a linebacker on 1:13:09.439 --> 1:13:12.840 the juke routes, and so that's when it got eaten 1:13:12.920 --> 1:13:14.479 up and then they would go to the man. We 1:13:14.560 --> 1:13:16.360 just couldn't finish. We were moving the ball up and 1:13:16.400 --> 1:13:18.519 down the field. Just every time we got in the 1:13:18.600 --> 1:13:21.800 red area, you know, something went wrong. We couldn't finish play, 1:13:21.920 --> 1:13:23.080 We couldn't finish drives. 1:13:23.439 --> 1:13:24.479 But we were moving the ball. 1:13:24.920 --> 1:13:26.400 We were moving the ball, Like we were able to 1:13:26.479 --> 1:13:29.320 run the ball, what would we run for ninety four yards? 1:13:29.360 --> 1:13:29.479 Son? 1:13:29.520 --> 1:13:31.880 He had ninety four yards on eighteen carries. Rex had 1:13:31.920 --> 1:13:34.760 some big old runs, you know what I mean. So 1:13:34.960 --> 1:13:37.560 like we were running the football. We just you know, 1:13:37.640 --> 1:13:40.599 that's where these games come down to. It's situational football, 1:13:41.320 --> 1:13:44.040 you know, it's it's red area. It's four point plays, 1:13:44.360 --> 1:13:46.840 which is third down in the red area. Guys that 1:13:47.200 --> 1:13:49.840 you know, if you don't score touchdowns in the red area, 1:13:50.240 --> 1:13:53.240 that's usually what separates to win. Now, we just so 1:13:53.640 --> 1:13:58.479 happened to have a killer defensive game plan and our 1:13:58.520 --> 1:14:00.519 guys went out there and x a cute it to 1:14:00.640 --> 1:14:05.200 a t and having the veteran presence of the mccordy's 1:14:05.280 --> 1:14:08.479 and the Jason mccordy coming over, having his first Super Bowl, 1:14:09.000 --> 1:14:11.880 you know, having Gilmore go out and play to the 1:14:11.920 --> 1:14:14.360 big contract that we got him, gave him, and that's 1:14:14.400 --> 1:14:16.680 why we fought the first day of practice because I 1:14:16.800 --> 1:14:18.320 was pissed off that I used to write him up 1:14:18.360 --> 1:14:20.760 as a bill and then we gave him fourteen. He 1:14:21.000 --> 1:14:23.400 played the way he should have played with the interception 1:14:23.560 --> 1:14:26.720 and then the force fumble like it was it was 1:14:26.840 --> 1:14:27.960 crazy with one. 1:14:27.920 --> 1:14:29.800 Less dread his hair and his head one. 1:14:30.800 --> 1:14:31.680 That's my dog, bro. 1:14:32.400 --> 1:14:32.920 I remember. 1:14:33.680 --> 1:14:35.920 I remember on the way back because Bill kicked us out. 1:14:36.000 --> 1:14:38.960 It was the first day of pads. It was it 1:14:39.040 --> 1:14:43.080 was the first day, early practice, early practice, early practice. Kickses, 1:14:43.600 --> 1:14:46.000 just get the fuck hit the showers at home, and 1:14:46.640 --> 1:14:50.599 you too, Gilmore. By the time we're out, we're sitting 1:14:50.680 --> 1:14:53.599 in the shower in the locker room. You know, I'm like, yeah, 1:14:53.680 --> 1:14:56.920 my bad, bro. You know, he's like, you know, Gilly 1:14:57.000 --> 1:14:58.759 doesn't really yeah. 1:14:58.640 --> 1:15:01.360 He's like, yeah, man, it's all right, you know, Like 1:15:01.520 --> 1:15:03.679 it was, Oh man. 1:15:04.439 --> 1:15:06.639 What do you you guys remember anything in particular about 1:15:06.640 --> 1:15:08.800 the lead up to this one Super Bowl prep wise, 1:15:08.880 --> 1:15:10.519 game plan wise that we didn't touch yet. 1:15:11.080 --> 1:15:15.960 We just were constantly talking about getting Aaron Donald protected. 1:15:16.160 --> 1:15:18.360 Oh my gosh. The whole team knew that. 1:15:18.560 --> 1:15:21.439 Though we were just talking about higher team knew we 1:15:21.520 --> 1:15:24.160 had we can't get Aaron. If we don't get Aaron 1:15:24.160 --> 1:15:25.200 Donald will lose the game. 1:15:25.560 --> 1:15:27.599 And that was the truth and that's still the truth. 1:15:27.640 --> 1:15:30.960 If you play those guys. You got a block ninety nine. 1:15:31.320 --> 1:15:34.280 Blocking ninety nine was huge. Red area. I remember us 1:15:34.320 --> 1:15:36.400 talking about red area. We got a score points which 1:15:36.439 --> 1:15:41.040 we didn't do very well on. You know, and those 1:15:41.080 --> 1:15:42.639 are the two things that come to my mind. 1:15:43.040 --> 1:15:45.160 Anything else special, And I know for us, like playing 1:15:45.160 --> 1:15:48.400 against Bones, you know, you always had to be fake sound. 1:15:49.280 --> 1:15:51.599 The Rams ran a lot of fakes with Johnny Hecker. 1:15:52.520 --> 1:15:53.280 He's a quarterback. 1:15:53.439 --> 1:15:55.720 Yeah, I mean he can he can throw the ball. 1:15:55.840 --> 1:15:58.080 Now this kid can throw the ball. So we just 1:15:58.200 --> 1:16:01.160 were talking about fake adjustments all week, being fake sound. 1:16:01.840 --> 1:16:03.760 It got to the point, I mean we changed our 1:16:04.320 --> 1:16:06.240 what we were gonna do our checks maybe two or 1:16:06.280 --> 1:16:08.759 three times. It got to the point where I remember 1:16:09.600 --> 1:16:11.120 looking over at Nate Edner and I was just like, 1:16:11.200 --> 1:16:12.800 hey man, when we get out there, just make sure 1:16:12.800 --> 1:16:15.639 we got a hat on a hat like we're probably 1:16:15.640 --> 1:16:17.640 gonna screw the call up because we've gone through it 1:16:17.760 --> 1:16:20.720 so many times. Just make sure everybody's accounted for when 1:16:20.760 --> 1:16:23.479 we get out there. And uh, and you know, let's 1:16:23.520 --> 1:16:25.080 try to make a play. Little did we know that 1:16:25.120 --> 1:16:29.160 it was gonna be a fifteen punt extravaganza. But yeah, 1:16:29.360 --> 1:16:32.160 that fake sound was preached all week in our room. 1:16:32.600 --> 1:16:35.719 What do you think of McVeigh at this time, because 1:16:35.720 --> 1:16:38.160 he had the whole boy gen respect for him. Yeah, 1:16:38.200 --> 1:16:39.120 I mean it was our age. 1:16:39.560 --> 1:16:42.240 He was Our age was just wild. I mean, I'm 1:16:42.320 --> 1:16:43.200 older than the guy. 1:16:43.720 --> 1:16:44.960 We played against, the same age. 1:16:46.000 --> 1:16:49.200 Just the fact that he was able to get Jared 1:16:49.280 --> 1:16:52.880 Goff turned around right like we played Jared Golf in sixteen. 1:16:53.200 --> 1:16:55.479 They came to us and you just didn't see it. 1:16:56.439 --> 1:16:59.160 And then this year and the year before that, you're like, man, 1:16:59.240 --> 1:17:02.120 this is a different player. So to me, that was 1:17:02.240 --> 1:17:04.639 very impressive because I don't think we have enough coaches 1:17:04.680 --> 1:17:07.640 in the league that can develop young quarterbacks. And then 1:17:07.720 --> 1:17:09.800 the way he had this offense rolling, I mean, you know, 1:17:10.240 --> 1:17:11.960 you thought we were going to be in for a 1:17:12.080 --> 1:17:12.559 long day. 1:17:12.960 --> 1:17:14.799 And then to start the game, this was down in Atlanta. 1:17:16.200 --> 1:17:18.479 Can't start a game without a coin toss. Slate two 1:17:18.560 --> 1:17:22.720 and three in coin tosses in Super Bowls, but they 1:17:22.800 --> 1:17:25.519 lost every game that Slate won the coin toss, which 1:17:25.600 --> 1:17:26.559 is a weird stat. 1:17:28.000 --> 1:17:30.080 Heads, baby, Okay. 1:17:29.960 --> 1:17:34.720 So you lost, so I needed I lost, Yes, okay. 1:17:34.760 --> 1:17:37.400 But I will note you were one for one in 1:17:37.479 --> 1:17:39.400 overtime coin tosses. That's when it matters. 1:17:39.720 --> 1:17:43.800 NFC Championship game right week before, two weeks before, that's 1:17:43.840 --> 1:17:47.720 when it matters. Byby give it heads always right, never 1:17:48.080 --> 1:17:48.759 always tails. 1:17:49.520 --> 1:17:51.320 Was Dad feeling at this this game? 1:17:51.960 --> 1:17:55.519 He was given the most political answer all week. You know, 1:17:55.640 --> 1:17:58.280 either way it goes, I'm in a win win situation, 1:17:59.080 --> 1:18:01.160 and I'm like, how can you say that? He goes, 1:18:01.240 --> 1:18:03.760 you know, I gotta, I gotta kind of they flew 1:18:03.840 --> 1:18:07.120 down there on the RAMS plane. Oh, they flew down 1:18:07.160 --> 1:18:10.000 there on the RAMS plane. They flew You know, he's 1:18:10.080 --> 1:18:13.439 working for the Rams all year doing media stuff. So 1:18:13.520 --> 1:18:15.360 I think he was trying to tow the line, like 1:18:15.439 --> 1:18:18.000 he didn't want to rock the boat with the Rams, 1:18:18.000 --> 1:18:21.479 which I respect. I mean, look, the Rams provided for 1:18:21.600 --> 1:18:23.920 my education growing up, So I got love for the Rams. 1:18:24.000 --> 1:18:26.280 But you know, come on, Pop, you gotta you gotta 1:18:26.320 --> 1:18:28.880 draw a hard line in the sand. It Stanley, you 1:18:28.920 --> 1:18:30.720 get family. Now, he was down on the field, he 1:18:30.800 --> 1:18:33.160 had the hats, he was so rating all and then 1:18:33.200 --> 1:18:35.320 he had to fly back on the plane. I don't 1:18:35.520 --> 1:18:37.640 compromise him right now, but he had to fly back 1:18:37.720 --> 1:18:39.840 on the plane, and so he had to act real 1:18:39.920 --> 1:18:42.840 sad the next day, getting up getting back on the plane. 1:18:42.920 --> 1:18:45.679 But do you think had the Rams won, he would 1:18:45.680 --> 1:18:46.800 have shut up to the Rams party. 1:18:47.160 --> 1:18:50.080 Oh he'd have been in there and then dancing around 1:18:50.160 --> 1:18:52.679 he'd have been dappling up there. 1:18:52.600 --> 1:18:55.600 And on the whole game. Oh that was weird. That 1:18:55.760 --> 1:18:57.639 was really weird for our family. I'm not gonna lie, 1:18:57.760 --> 1:19:00.920 like my dad at this point had a you know, 1:19:01.080 --> 1:19:04.800 forty year relationship with the RAM, so it was a 1:19:05.040 --> 1:19:06.599 strange situation for sure. 1:19:06.920 --> 1:19:08.760 He doesn't strike me as a split Jersey guy either, 1:19:08.880 --> 1:19:10.760 like the moms that were the half of. 1:19:10.840 --> 1:19:13.600 Oh no, he's not doing that. He's not doing that. 1:19:14.600 --> 1:19:15.280 He ain't doing that. 1:19:15.479 --> 1:19:17.920 Oh man, all right. We talked a little bit about 1:19:17.920 --> 1:19:20.280 moving that ball in the first half and pretty much 1:19:20.280 --> 1:19:22.639 throughout the whole game. But we started this thing half 1:19:23.040 --> 1:19:25.880 after the coin toss a Brady interception. What is it 1:19:25.960 --> 1:19:30.080 with Tom in those early Super Bowl interceptions? I don't know, 1:19:30.479 --> 1:19:31.479 but that's how this one started. 1:19:31.720 --> 1:19:35.040 I'm not critiquing. I'm not taking either towns the best 1:19:35.040 --> 1:19:36.200 player in the history game. 1:19:37.040 --> 1:19:38.920 The d bailed him out with a stop on a 1:19:38.960 --> 1:19:42.120 three and out many of those. This game. Followed it 1:19:42.200 --> 1:19:44.519 up with a nice eleven play drive, really moving the ball, 1:19:45.000 --> 1:19:47.280 jewels you were getting open, but ended up with a 1:19:47.439 --> 1:19:50.360 Steve o missfield goal. Remained nothing nothing at the end 1:19:50.400 --> 1:19:52.519 of the first moving into the second, we finally got 1:19:52.560 --> 1:19:54.719 on the board with the Steve o forty two yarder 1:19:54.960 --> 1:19:57.400 and then the story of this game, so many punts 1:19:57.720 --> 1:20:00.920 we're talking here, fourteen total punts, eight alone in the 1:20:00.960 --> 1:20:03.160 first half. Five of those were off three and outs. 1:20:04.160 --> 1:20:06.160 So defenses were both playing hard and it was a 1:20:06.200 --> 1:20:07.000 feel bag game. 1:20:07.439 --> 1:20:09.479 I mean, inside the we were loving that. I'm not 1:20:09.560 --> 1:20:11.560 gonna lie to y'all. We love to be able to 1:20:11.600 --> 1:20:13.400 go out there and do our job, and you know, 1:20:13.479 --> 1:20:16.640 we really got in a groove. I think early in 1:20:16.720 --> 1:20:19.439 that game, Ryan was hitting the ball with confidence. I 1:20:19.520 --> 1:20:21.799 think we got him inside the ten a number of times, 1:20:22.000 --> 1:20:24.439 which ended up being you know, a big part of 1:20:24.520 --> 1:20:28.880 this game was that hitting yardage and keeping their offense 1:20:28.960 --> 1:20:31.040 on a long field. But you know, you got to 1:20:31.040 --> 1:20:33.040 shout out Ryan Allen for the game that he had. 1:20:33.320 --> 1:20:35.520 I mean, this is one of the best punting performances 1:20:35.680 --> 1:20:39.040 I've ever seen. And then for us, you know, a 1:20:39.120 --> 1:20:40.800 lot of the situations that we were in, we were 1:20:40.880 --> 1:20:43.600 on singles, which we love as gunners, and we were 1:20:43.640 --> 1:20:46.160 just able to run and make play. So it was awesome. 1:20:46.360 --> 1:20:48.960 Is that a political that is that you see? You 1:20:49.000 --> 1:20:51.840 see when Slake gets into the coach mode, you see 1:20:51.880 --> 1:20:55.679 his voice octavetes like three three deeper. 1:20:56.960 --> 1:21:02.400 Yeah, I just want to you know, right, yeah, yo, yeah, Fellows. 1:21:02.800 --> 1:21:05.600 Fellows. He used to always get on me about my 1:21:05.720 --> 1:21:09.439 voice changing octaves, But like you know, you gotta use 1:21:09.479 --> 1:21:11.720 the appropriate active at the appropriate time. 1:21:11.880 --> 1:21:13.880 I need these appropriate time to go over the state 1:21:13.920 --> 1:21:15.599 of the union. What's the state of the union? 1:21:16.080 --> 1:21:17.720 We used to you want to stay, you want to 1:21:17.760 --> 1:21:18.960 talk state of the Union right now? 1:21:20.640 --> 1:21:20.800 Yeah? 1:21:20.880 --> 1:21:23.160 We got all day. You know, we used to have 1:21:23.240 --> 1:21:26.160 these state of the Union talks or where Julian and 1:21:26.280 --> 1:21:30.760 I would go in private and openly discuss what we 1:21:30.920 --> 1:21:33.800 really felt like was going on with the team, the 1:21:33.960 --> 1:21:36.880 coaching staff, certain guys on the team, and you know, 1:21:36.960 --> 1:21:40.600 the state of the union addresses started when we were 1:21:40.640 --> 1:21:45.639 living together. And probably the most the single most important 1:21:45.720 --> 1:21:48.320 state of the Union that we ever had was after 1:21:48.439 --> 1:21:51.160 we got throttled on Monday Night football by the Chiefs 1:21:52.000 --> 1:21:57.960 in twenty fourteen, and ships we came back to the 1:21:58.120 --> 1:22:01.400 house and I was falling. I mean, it was a 1:22:01.479 --> 1:22:02.479 chicken little situation. 1:22:02.800 --> 1:22:02.920 Uh. 1:22:03.439 --> 1:22:06.320 The TV folks were saying that Tom was washed, that 1:22:06.439 --> 1:22:10.840 we were done. Trent Dilfer, who I just saw a 1:22:10.920 --> 1:22:12.560 couple of weeks ago, and reminded me of this. 1:22:13.400 --> 1:22:15.320 He was on he was on air and he's like, 1:22:15.479 --> 1:22:20.920 the dynasty is over. It's over, just crushing us. And 1:22:21.040 --> 1:22:23.720 you know we're not young, but we were kind of young, 1:22:23.800 --> 1:22:25.200 and we're like, man, we are. 1:22:25.160 --> 1:22:27.639 We are, we through, We're looking. 1:22:28.320 --> 1:22:34.160 We were just sitting there. The turk is coming overhaul 1:22:34.240 --> 1:22:34.920 the whole roster. 1:22:35.400 --> 1:22:38.839 It's Bill. It's Bill gonna cut us. But uh, needless 1:22:38.880 --> 1:22:42.080 to say, we're on the Cincinnati. Yeah, but that's the 1:22:42.120 --> 1:22:43.400 State of the un But it. 1:22:43.400 --> 1:22:46.360 Would be so funny, like if something went down in 1:22:46.760 --> 1:22:49.240 the building, so Slate would be in. We'd be in 1:22:49.240 --> 1:22:51.160 the same meetings some of the times, and the Slate 1:22:51.200 --> 1:22:54.960 would be going to special teams and we'd be passioning 1:22:55.040 --> 1:22:58.560 each other in the hallway, like on the way the cafeteria, 1:22:58.720 --> 1:23:00.400 like treatment or something. I'd be like, you have State 1:23:00.439 --> 1:23:02.160 of the Union. After State of the Union, he was like, 1:23:02.400 --> 1:23:06.360 state the Union. I'm like, state of the Union, State 1:23:06.520 --> 1:23:09.960 of the fucking Union. And we would wait until we 1:23:10.120 --> 1:23:13.479 left the premises of the ground. As we got older, yeah, 1:23:13.600 --> 1:23:15.519 as we got older. As we got older, we we 1:23:15.680 --> 1:23:17.640 we we we we we stayed on the ground, right. 1:23:17.840 --> 1:23:19.639 But when we were young, you can't have a state 1:23:19.680 --> 1:23:22.280 of Union on the ground. Absolutely, place might be both. 1:23:22.680 --> 1:23:26.600 You can't never take that off site yet stay of 1:23:26.640 --> 1:23:27.439 the union off side. 1:23:27.479 --> 1:23:28.200 We go into the car. 1:23:29.040 --> 1:23:31.639 Oh my god, was state of the Union one one? 1:23:32.160 --> 1:23:35.080 There's always one, one, one one one. You can't you 1:23:35.120 --> 1:23:36.920 can't bring so many parties in the state of anything. 1:23:37.120 --> 1:23:40.439 The information leaks, you know, loose you know, loose lips. 1:23:40.479 --> 1:23:43.280 Think ships sink ships, and we won our ships sinking. 1:23:43.600 --> 1:23:45.479 After every State of the Union, we felt like the 1:23:45.560 --> 1:23:45.920 ship was. 1:23:45.920 --> 1:23:47.599 Seeking the ship. 1:23:48.200 --> 1:23:51.680 The outlook was always pulled the worst. I don't know, 1:23:51.880 --> 1:23:55.120 this is not like we are done our big union. 1:23:55.479 --> 1:23:57.160 After that we won three Super Bowls. 1:23:58.240 --> 1:23:59.960 Perspective exact exactly? 1:24:00.040 --> 1:24:01.479 Do you guys remember your last State of. 1:24:01.439 --> 1:24:03.760 The Union might have been a state of the Union 1:24:03.840 --> 1:24:04.680 about the neat me. 1:24:06.560 --> 1:24:07.640 And I don't know if I could do it. 1:24:09.320 --> 1:24:11.519 I mean, that was tough. That was tough for me 1:24:11.920 --> 1:24:14.880 because at that point in time, you know, I had 1:24:14.960 --> 1:24:18.240 two work wives in my career, Julian and mccordy. 1:24:19.000 --> 1:24:20.640 Who's the main who was the mainstay? 1:24:20.920 --> 1:24:24.400 It was Julian was the primary work. You tell mccorty, 1:24:24.479 --> 1:24:28.400 he the side piece. Okay, he's a side piece. 1:24:29.880 --> 1:24:32.800 I mean, look, what when how about demon wearing all 1:24:32.840 --> 1:24:35.559 three of his rings on his on his show? Because 1:24:35.600 --> 1:24:37.960 here are wearing rings on the show. 1:24:38.160 --> 1:24:43.080 Broh, D mat Man the I yeah, I mean we 1:24:43.160 --> 1:24:46.280 got him. I guess we're supposed to wear them for banquets. Yeah, 1:24:46.400 --> 1:24:48.280 mine in lockdown, got a bank wearing mine. 1:24:48.320 --> 1:24:50.040 You give it to like a Pop Warner team to 1:24:50.120 --> 1:24:52.560 look at. Yeah the National TV. 1:24:52.600 --> 1:24:53.240 Did he have on? 1:24:53.760 --> 1:24:55.320 He had multiple times. 1:24:55.800 --> 1:24:57.720 Dat we gotta talk about. But you know dmat was 1:24:57.760 --> 1:24:59.679 also wearing a shirt was his own hit on there, 1:25:00.720 --> 1:25:02.320 So you know the modesty's gone. 1:25:02.680 --> 1:25:02.960 You know what? 1:25:04.320 --> 1:25:07.120 J Ma that J J Mack. 1:25:07.400 --> 1:25:08.680 J Mack classy guy. 1:25:09.439 --> 1:25:13.080 So what he's saying, I don't know. I didn't say that. 1:25:13.880 --> 1:25:17.280 I mean, is that old talking all class? In my book? 1:25:17.320 --> 1:25:18.080 Man all class? 1:25:18.200 --> 1:25:21.600 Now he's classy, but he's just nasshole. J Max is 1:25:21.640 --> 1:25:22.439 just a loving league. 1:25:22.800 --> 1:25:26.880 I got grass. Okay, my work wife is going out 1:25:26.960 --> 1:25:29.519 with his knee and I'm in a pan. I'm trying 1:25:29.560 --> 1:25:31.240 to hold the front. I'm trying to act. Hey man, 1:25:31.280 --> 1:25:33.839 you know, hey man, just get keep doing a rehab, 1:25:33.960 --> 1:25:37.439 keep getting it treated. You gotta just keep keep fighting. 1:25:37.600 --> 1:25:39.439 Then I go talk to the trainers. And they'd be 1:25:39.520 --> 1:25:43.880 like his knees done and I'm and I'm panicing, what 1:25:43.960 --> 1:25:45.360 do you mean it's done? He's like, I don't think 1:25:45.400 --> 1:25:47.719 it's getting any better. But that was a tough staying 1:25:47.960 --> 1:25:50.360 that was tough. But you went out on your shield. Man. 1:25:50.920 --> 1:25:53.759 You had your highest yard yardage game of your career 1:25:54.120 --> 1:25:54.880 that last year. 1:25:55.200 --> 1:25:57.799 Remember, I was trying to come back. And I remember 1:25:57.920 --> 1:26:00.960 my last practice because after that we weren't even playoff 1:26:00.960 --> 1:26:02.599 Freddie and I was like, I'm not pushing this thing. 1:26:03.040 --> 1:26:05.040 The last practice, I just I just wanted to get 1:26:05.040 --> 1:26:08.960 Gilmour one more time, one on ones. I went out 1:26:09.120 --> 1:26:11.640 just for one on ones. I got Little Miles on 1:26:11.720 --> 1:26:15.559 a double move. Then I got Gilmore and I literally 1:26:15.800 --> 1:26:18.560 after I got Gilmore, I just chucked the deuces and 1:26:18.600 --> 1:26:19.960 went to the pool. It was the last time I 1:26:20.080 --> 1:26:21.719 was ever seen as a New England Patriot. 1:26:22.120 --> 1:26:25.800 Oh man, you went to the Wills fall off. That's 1:26:25.840 --> 1:26:28.280 what we always said, go to Wills fall off. 1:26:28.360 --> 1:26:30.200 You gotta go to the Willis fall off. Now are 1:26:30.240 --> 1:26:33.400 you surprised at the paces this terrible game? By this time, 1:26:36.160 --> 1:26:38.640 I mean we were a full tangent. I forgot what 1:26:38.680 --> 1:26:41.160 we're talking about the game you know, I was loving it. 1:26:41.240 --> 1:26:43.519 I was loving the way the game was Evanon flown 1:26:43.520 --> 1:26:45.719 because we were having a lot of opportunities to impact 1:26:45.760 --> 1:26:49.800 the game. But I was surprised because their offense was 1:26:49.880 --> 1:26:54.559 so potent. Obviously our offense was was really motoring at 1:26:54.600 --> 1:26:57.800 this time. I was surprised at how slow the game 1:26:58.040 --> 1:27:01.840 was developing and how well the defenses were playing, you know. 1:27:02.000 --> 1:27:04.880 There. I watched this game and there was just crazy 1:27:05.000 --> 1:27:07.320 plays by so many guys on the defense. High Tower 1:27:08.120 --> 1:27:12.040 literally brought the thunder February, you know, Like I just 1:27:12.120 --> 1:27:14.120 remember there was like three plays in a row where 1:27:14.120 --> 1:27:16.000 they were trying to bring that tight end in to 1:27:16.120 --> 1:27:20.320 get the the backer and he literally put them on 1:27:20.400 --> 1:27:25.280 their butt like three times. The van Ney chip and 1:27:25.400 --> 1:27:27.480 then Chase of Golf. 1:27:27.439 --> 1:27:30.519 On that big That was a great player by Kyle, 1:27:30.920 --> 1:27:32.640 Like I was a great play there was. 1:27:32.800 --> 1:27:35.080 And then you know Gilmore with the pick when we 1:27:35.280 --> 1:27:39.240 needed it, Jason mccordy with you know, the pat out 1:27:39.760 --> 1:27:42.800 at the backside post with the adjustment that they put in, 1:27:43.520 --> 1:27:45.560 you know, because they already got beat by that and 1:27:45.640 --> 1:27:48.160 they let it go. Remember, like there was just so 1:27:48.400 --> 1:27:52.360 much the defense played their nuts off, like it really 1:27:52.439 --> 1:27:54.560 did man, this is exactly how Bill wanted it. 1:27:55.120 --> 1:27:56.600 He loved it, loved it. 1:27:56.760 --> 1:27:58.599 It was we were in control of the game even 1:27:58.600 --> 1:27:58.840 though we. 1:27:58.880 --> 1:28:02.280 Weren't right and I mean to the fan, honestly, for me, 1:28:03.000 --> 1:28:06.400 and we played in five Super Bowls, to me, this 1:28:06.640 --> 1:28:10.240 was the most comfortable I ever felt during the Super Bowl. 1:28:10.720 --> 1:28:13.160 I mean every other game was a struggle. You know, 1:28:13.280 --> 1:28:15.719 it was like, man, I don't know, we it always 1:28:15.760 --> 1:28:17.160 felt like we were in control of the game. 1:28:17.200 --> 1:28:19.600 Felt like we were in control even though the score was. 1:28:19.720 --> 1:28:22.360 Close, and you know it was a tight ball game. 1:28:22.760 --> 1:28:25.519 It felt like this is transpartent, just the way we wanted. 1:28:25.800 --> 1:28:28.640 So, I mean the first half alone, defense was incredible. 1:28:28.920 --> 1:28:32.040 Held the rams of fifty seven yards, only two first downs, 1:28:32.400 --> 1:28:34.720 record loads for Sean McVay. First time he'd ever been 1:28:34.760 --> 1:28:37.080 shut out in the half of football, which is or 1:28:37.120 --> 1:28:40.240 first half of football, which is crazy jewels. Seven catches 1:28:40.760 --> 1:28:43.080 in the first first the Super Bowl record. Six of 1:28:43.120 --> 1:28:46.559 those seven were for first downs. Pretty sick. Jim Nantz 1:28:46.640 --> 1:28:49.400 was loving it. They go into the My. 1:28:49.479 --> 1:28:51.559 Man was running some round. He talk about beating man covers. 1:28:51.600 --> 1:28:54.680 You were run some ounce that just the the average Joe. 1:28:54.880 --> 1:28:58.160 That's why that knees gone because that knee was working 1:28:58.360 --> 1:29:01.000 that night. I think it was my knees were hurting 1:29:01.120 --> 1:29:03.200 just watching it. I look at the highlights, I see 1:29:03.240 --> 1:29:06.800 my dog cutting. I'm like, oh my my meniscous, my 1:29:07.040 --> 1:29:09.439 icl hurt just watching. He was running some routes that night. 1:29:12.680 --> 1:29:15.640 A half up three nothing, What was what was up 1:29:15.680 --> 1:29:20.519 in the halftime? Any adjustments anything big? We remember? Standard standard. 1:29:21.160 --> 1:29:23.320 It was just a standard like fellas we you know 1:29:24.120 --> 1:29:26.639 we're not playing our best. We just tighten up little 1:29:26.720 --> 1:29:29.960 things in the red area, just keep playing each play, 1:29:31.080 --> 1:29:34.120 trying to win one play at a time. You can't 1:29:34.160 --> 1:29:36.040 win it, and you know you can't win the game 1:29:36.120 --> 1:29:39.320 in one play, like that's the That was the mantra, like, 1:29:39.439 --> 1:29:44.120 let's just do our job every play and then line 1:29:44.200 --> 1:29:49.400 up and do it again. That's right, communication, execution, and. 1:29:49.479 --> 1:29:52.200 It sounds simple, but it's hard to carry out. And 1:29:52.600 --> 1:29:55.080 you know, that's the one thing we did better than 1:29:55.320 --> 1:29:57.880 everybody for the time we were there. We were able 1:29:57.920 --> 1:29:58.519 to execute. 1:29:59.040 --> 1:30:01.240 Come out in the third quarter, let him tie it 1:30:01.360 --> 1:30:04.920 up on a Greg de leg field goal. And another 1:30:05.040 --> 1:30:07.800 thing there was was big. A lot of people don't 1:30:07.800 --> 1:30:10.439 talk about enough. Jung gets hurt goes out, we lose 1:30:10.520 --> 1:30:11.400 him Chung. 1:30:11.520 --> 1:30:12.799 Yeah, that was big air. 1:30:12.760 --> 1:30:13.439 Cast on the arm. 1:30:13.800 --> 1:30:15.240 That's like some Rodney Harrison. 1:30:15.520 --> 1:30:15.640 You know. 1:30:15.840 --> 1:30:19.560 Chung brought such a level of like toughness and competes 1:30:20.479 --> 1:30:23.800 to our team and just intangibles that you don't really 1:30:23.960 --> 1:30:26.439 celebrate or talk about. That was a big loss when 1:30:26.479 --> 1:30:29.440 he went out of the game, Like I felt emotionally, 1:30:29.560 --> 1:30:32.400 I felt, yeah, that was a blow that we had 1:30:32.439 --> 1:30:33.360 to kind of overcome. 1:30:33.840 --> 1:30:36.200 You know, you couldn't have explained it any better with 1:30:36.960 --> 1:30:40.360 what he brought to the team, with his toughness, with 1:30:40.520 --> 1:30:41.520 how he practiced. 1:30:42.240 --> 1:30:44.080 For the first three years of my career, me and 1:30:44.200 --> 1:30:44.720 Chung was. 1:30:44.720 --> 1:30:49.560 Fought every day every day because you know, there's like 1:30:49.560 --> 1:30:51.760 an agreement when you're going into block force and he 1:30:51.880 --> 1:30:54.680 was always the forced safety, you know, and he never 1:30:54.840 --> 1:30:57.559 agreed to the agreement, and I never agreed to the agreement. 1:30:57.680 --> 1:31:01.639 So we were literally banging heads for three years every 1:31:01.760 --> 1:31:04.040 day and like it was just and but it made 1:31:04.120 --> 1:31:06.080 us better, Yeah, it did, you know. And that's what 1:31:06.240 --> 1:31:06.760 Chung was. 1:31:06.920 --> 1:31:07.160 He was. 1:31:07.280 --> 1:31:11.360 He worked his tail off. He was always dependable when 1:31:11.400 --> 1:31:14.320 the team needed it. And it's crazy when you can 1:31:14.400 --> 1:31:17.200 literally say that about pretty much everyone that was on 1:31:17.320 --> 1:31:19.760 the field, right, you know, and that's why the team 1:31:19.840 --> 1:31:21.280 was special. We're special. 1:31:21.600 --> 1:31:23.639 And then moving into the fourth quarter, there's the first 1:31:23.680 --> 1:31:25.600 time in Super Bowl history where we don't have a 1:31:25.680 --> 1:31:28.799 touchdown in the game yet Wow, three to three Patriots 1:31:28.800 --> 1:31:31.160 get the ball with nine thirty nine left in the fourth. 1:31:31.680 --> 1:31:33.679 We got the drive that pretty much wins this game. 1:31:34.120 --> 1:31:36.720 We're starting on our own thirty one, starting out with 1:31:36.800 --> 1:31:39.839 a great pass to Gronk, then jeweles and Rexburghead gets involved, 1:31:40.240 --> 1:31:43.000 and then the play that one of the defining plays 1:31:43.000 --> 1:31:45.880 of this game in my mind was that hass Z juke. Right, 1:31:46.040 --> 1:31:46.759 see the Gronk. 1:31:48.280 --> 1:31:50.559 Three plays in a row or four times in a row, 1:31:50.640 --> 1:31:53.240 they hit me on the juke, they hit what Rex 1:31:54.040 --> 1:31:57.439 on the outside yep. And then the one time when 1:31:57.479 --> 1:31:59.439 when they hit Rex, we saw that they gave us 1:32:00.040 --> 1:32:03.840 single safety. And when you get single safety on that play, 1:32:04.000 --> 1:32:06.200 that's why we you know, you see a highlight of 1:32:06.280 --> 1:32:09.080 Gronk hitting the seam running, you know, and and that's 1:32:09.120 --> 1:32:11.519 when it happened. You know, it was crazy. We could run. 1:32:11.600 --> 1:32:13.599 That was like we used to call that play Jordan. 1:32:14.200 --> 1:32:16.320 You know that was Jordan because it was it was 1:32:16.400 --> 1:32:20.360 our safety blanket. We could run it against anything. Everyone 1:32:20.439 --> 1:32:24.280 knew how to run it. Everyone ran their specific route 1:32:24.360 --> 1:32:27.160 so many times where you knew how to get open 1:32:27.240 --> 1:32:28.439 on every coverage. 1:32:29.200 --> 1:32:30.680 You know what I mean, No, I love that was 1:32:30.680 --> 1:32:33.080 one of my favorite Gronk moments of all time personally, you. 1:32:33.120 --> 1:32:36.080 Know, shout out Gronk because you know, this year was 1:32:36.160 --> 1:32:38.759 tough for him, especially towards the end. He was banged 1:32:38.840 --> 1:32:42.840 up physically, he was just beat up, and what he 1:32:43.000 --> 1:32:45.840 really embraced was like, all right, I'm gonna just become 1:32:45.920 --> 1:32:49.400 a dominant blocker and then you know, when we needed 1:32:49.479 --> 1:32:52.080 plays in the past game, he just always found a 1:32:52.120 --> 1:32:55.479 way to rise to the occasion. And to me, that's 1:32:55.520 --> 1:32:58.479 what that's what makes him the best because when it 1:32:58.640 --> 1:33:02.080 wasn't perfect for him, when he was hurting, he found 1:33:02.200 --> 1:33:03.320 ways to make plays. 1:33:03.880 --> 1:33:05.519 And like in this game, my man was. 1:33:05.560 --> 1:33:08.960 Hurting, hurt, he was hurting, but when we needed him, 1:33:09.760 --> 1:33:11.920 he found a way. Joker found a way to make 1:33:11.920 --> 1:33:12.240 a play. 1:33:12.360 --> 1:33:17.360 Always did. And you know, people don't realize like he 1:33:17.600 --> 1:33:21.200 was probably half of himself that year. Oh like with 1:33:22.040 --> 1:33:25.880 just the physical and mental beatdown that he was having, 1:33:25.880 --> 1:33:28.160 because you got to think about it, I mean, Gronk 1:33:28.280 --> 1:33:30.519 was the most dominant human being for most of his 1:33:30.640 --> 1:33:33.479 life and then you know, confidence wise was probably a 1:33:33.520 --> 1:33:36.000 little shot when you know, he's banged up and he's 1:33:36.080 --> 1:33:38.840 going over rehabs every year, every year, and he was 1:33:38.880 --> 1:33:39.600 getting sick of it. 1:33:39.720 --> 1:33:39.880 You know. 1:33:40.200 --> 1:33:43.960 Gronk's a big puppy man, you know, and for him 1:33:44.000 --> 1:33:45.680 to go out and show out like he did, and 1:33:45.760 --> 1:33:49.400 it started, you know, probably like week eighteen. You know, 1:33:49.520 --> 1:33:54.040 he started just putting them together and anytime we needed 1:33:54.040 --> 1:33:56.560 to play, Gronk made it. I mean, third down in 1:33:56.720 --> 1:34:00.120 ten in Kansas City, we hit him on the slint, know, 1:34:00.600 --> 1:34:03.719 just big time plays when the team needed it. Gronk 1:34:03.960 --> 1:34:06.840 always showed up no matter what. That's right, you know, 1:34:07.439 --> 1:34:10.519 even when he wasn't himself. And that's that's how you 1:34:10.640 --> 1:34:15.280 know if you're playing with great players, because it's kind 1:34:15.320 --> 1:34:16.120 of like Nascar. 1:34:16.920 --> 1:34:17.760 You always hear the. 1:34:17.840 --> 1:34:20.280 Drivers talking about like, yo, how's the car running? The 1:34:20.320 --> 1:34:23.240 cars running great today? You know there's sometimes a car 1:34:23.280 --> 1:34:25.479 ain't running good and you still got to win the race, right, 1:34:26.080 --> 1:34:30.160 you know, And that's what guys like Gronk, Guys like Tom. 1:34:30.600 --> 1:34:32.840 Tom had so many injuries that no one knew about, 1:34:33.320 --> 1:34:36.720 like broken broken feet and shit, you know like that. 1:34:36.840 --> 1:34:38.880 People don't even he tried to play with the aco. 1:34:39.080 --> 1:34:39.960 We all watched the doc. 1:34:40.600 --> 1:34:40.640 Like. 1:34:41.320 --> 1:34:44.439 To be able to adjust your game and still be 1:34:44.560 --> 1:34:47.360 able to perform at a high level is the ultimate 1:34:47.479 --> 1:34:50.640 sign of being a professional. Dy Amn Dola used to 1:34:50.640 --> 1:34:52.559 do it all the time. Break his ankle, come out 1:34:53.479 --> 1:34:54.439 taping his own ankle. 1:34:54.720 --> 1:34:56.160 Couldn't agree with you, dudes. 1:34:57.000 --> 1:34:59.599 And then before he wrap this thing up, we're getting 1:34:59.600 --> 1:35:03.080 down time here. This was another defining play from this game, 1:35:03.400 --> 1:35:08.400 From this second half, Slate's work. Brother in law Jason 1:35:08.479 --> 1:35:14.439 mccordy makes the game saving, the game saving play in 1:35:14.479 --> 1:35:17.000 my mind, one of them on Brandon Cooks in the 1:35:17.040 --> 1:35:17.720 back of the end zone. 1:35:17.760 --> 1:35:22.160 Oh yeah, huge, huge play. I mean, the thing about 1:35:22.160 --> 1:35:26.000 this play that's so impressive is Jason has a responsibility. 1:35:26.040 --> 1:35:29.360 They're in zone coverage and this is not his responsibility. 1:35:29.640 --> 1:35:31.639 It is not his responsibility to be in the deep 1:35:31.720 --> 1:35:35.519 third and to be covering this route. But he has 1:35:35.800 --> 1:35:43.240 the experience and the preparation in the football IQ to say, O, 1:35:43.800 --> 1:35:47.040 this guy's back here, he's open. It's not my guy, 1:35:47.160 --> 1:35:47.839 but I better. 1:35:47.720 --> 1:35:48.360 Go get on him. 1:35:48.439 --> 1:35:51.040 And if he doesn't make this play, we may not 1:35:51.120 --> 1:35:53.600 even be sitting here talking about this. So this is 1:35:53.640 --> 1:35:54.599 a huge, huge play. 1:35:55.120 --> 1:35:55.400 You know what. 1:35:55.520 --> 1:36:01.519 The best play in my eyes was least play a 1:36:01.600 --> 1:36:02.680 game right type diving kill. 1:36:03.240 --> 1:36:07.360 Oh, there's no no, take that knee, baby, that's playing football. 1:36:07.800 --> 1:36:11.600 Six tight diamond, take a knee that's playing That was 1:36:11.680 --> 1:36:14.880 right tight diving killed six tight in the sixth was 1:36:14.920 --> 1:36:18.639 Josh m Nail six tight diamond taking knee right tight. 1:36:19.479 --> 1:36:21.760 The only reason I know six tights because that's the 1:36:21.800 --> 1:36:22.639 only player, man. 1:36:22.640 --> 1:36:22.960 He's. 1:36:24.840 --> 1:36:28.720 Which. We had the Sea super Bowl, and there's like 1:36:28.800 --> 1:36:31.439 the scuffle at the the need for that. 1:36:32.000 --> 1:36:32.840 You're going all crazy. 1:36:32.920 --> 1:36:34.840 I'm trying to get jokers checked it. I was trying 1:36:34.880 --> 1:36:37.280 to get Michael Bennett and ejected through a pot full 1:36:37.360 --> 1:36:39.400 on through a pot full on tackle. 1:36:39.560 --> 1:36:40.000 Gronk too. 1:36:40.120 --> 1:36:42.840 Shout out Michael Bennett, one of my former teammates, but 1:36:43.200 --> 1:36:46.719 he no remember Michael came Oh he did. 1:36:46.720 --> 1:36:49.320 For Yeah, wasn't the story he and Brett Beilam. I 1:36:49.320 --> 1:36:49.680 didn't like you. 1:36:50.360 --> 1:36:50.680 I don't know. 1:36:50.880 --> 1:36:51.200 I don't know. 1:36:51.880 --> 1:36:55.000 Michael came out and we used to have shells that 1:36:55.160 --> 1:36:58.760 you like on non padded days. He wore shells on 1:36:58.880 --> 1:37:01.920 a padded day. The man was He used to wear 1:37:02.040 --> 1:37:04.080 the smallest VT in that vet. 1:37:04.160 --> 1:37:06.439 He was super vet, super vet. Hold on before we 1:37:06.520 --> 1:37:09.439 wrapped this thing up. Win the game thirteen to three. 1:37:10.160 --> 1:37:12.120 This was This was a punt game. This is one 1:37:12.160 --> 1:37:15.400 of the greatest punting special team Super Bowls ever. Can 1:37:15.439 --> 1:37:17.400 we go through a couple of stats here? Yeah, Johnny 1:37:17.439 --> 1:37:21.280 Hecker sixty five yards Super Bowl record, Astik broke Ryan 1:37:21.360 --> 1:37:22.040 Allen's punts. 1:37:22.200 --> 1:37:27.800 Astik Pastrick rolled it, rolled about thirty yards, and I 1:37:27.880 --> 1:37:30.840 remember looking at Johnny and I looked at him. I 1:37:30.920 --> 1:37:35.400 was like, you, lucky, something got He just looked at me. 1:37:35.920 --> 1:37:39.880 At the old Scotty oo is probably back at home 1:37:39.960 --> 1:37:42.000 at the ranch yelling at it because I didn't play 1:37:42.000 --> 1:37:43.000 it off its first bounce. 1:37:43.160 --> 1:37:45.920 Oh what are you supposed to do? He shanked it 1:37:46.120 --> 1:37:48.000 and that rolled thirty yards. 1:37:48.200 --> 1:37:52.400 Shank mcdank, shank stick. He broke the previous record, which 1:37:52.439 --> 1:37:54.760 was held by Ryan Allen from the twenty fifteenth Super 1:37:55.360 --> 1:37:56.880 sixty four yards real record. 1:37:57.280 --> 1:37:59.759 I'm just playing, Johnny. I'm just kidding. 1:38:00.160 --> 1:38:03.160 Fourteen total punts, six of which were down inside the 1:38:03.240 --> 1:38:07.679 twenty yard line. Ryan Allen had punts down on the six, 1:38:07.960 --> 1:38:10.920 the two, and the seven. Hecker had puns down on 1:38:11.000 --> 1:38:12.439 the eight the two in the twelve. 1:38:12.280 --> 1:38:13.400 Yard lines kind of wild. 1:38:13.560 --> 1:38:16.880 This was wild wild. To make it even wilder, backed 1:38:16.960 --> 1:38:19.400 up these two guys. I mean we're talking great roommates 1:38:19.439 --> 1:38:22.760 right here, Ryan Allen Johnny Hecker roommates at Oregon State. Yeah. 1:38:23.200 --> 1:38:27.080 Crazy, they get that that little rivalry because Ryan had 1:38:27.120 --> 1:38:30.560 to transfer, Johnny beat him out. Yeah, and then I 1:38:30.600 --> 1:38:34.720 think Ryan won like the Guy Award twice when he transferred. 1:38:34.840 --> 1:38:37.160 But there's always a little something. 1:38:37.240 --> 1:38:39.920 He's always they always had a little like, hey, hey, 1:38:40.040 --> 1:38:42.000 what's that man? Like, No, I'm gonna get this guy. 1:38:42.160 --> 1:38:42.360 Yeah. 1:38:42.720 --> 1:38:46.280 Right, kickers, they're in their own world. They like they're cool, 1:38:46.560 --> 1:38:47.960 but they they're all competitive. 1:38:48.040 --> 1:38:49.960 They are very competitive. Wild. 1:38:50.080 --> 1:38:52.360 Soh yeah, this one goes down lowest scoring super Bowl history, 1:38:52.680 --> 1:38:58.120 thirteen to three, Pats win, Brady passes, Charles Haley six rings, 1:38:58.200 --> 1:39:02.000 most of any single player craziness. And then we got 1:39:02.080 --> 1:39:04.320 the after party of the aftermath. 1:39:04.360 --> 1:39:07.360 Golf was traded gone, which brings me back to my 1:39:07.479 --> 1:39:12.120 other point though Julian's point, winning is fun. If you 1:39:12.160 --> 1:39:16.920 don't win, you don't get one hundred percent. Julian Edelman, Okay, 1:39:18.080 --> 1:39:18.960 you don't get to. 1:39:20.080 --> 1:39:22.639 Ellen degenerous, shaving my beard, have that one. 1:39:22.720 --> 1:39:26.880 Shave your beard, you know with Tom right. I mean, 1:39:27.520 --> 1:39:29.920 you don't get to experience all these things unless you win, 1:39:30.800 --> 1:39:32.960 so therefore winning is fun. 1:39:33.080 --> 1:39:34.479 What's your favorite parade story? 1:39:35.160 --> 1:39:37.960 I think our first parade against that Seattle team. 1:39:38.000 --> 1:39:38.679 Oh my god. 1:39:39.400 --> 1:39:41.640 Now we won't get up, we won't get into the 1:39:41.800 --> 1:39:43.840 lead up and the build up and that, but we 1:39:44.000 --> 1:39:47.000 know what that build that was. Anyways, you know that 1:39:47.120 --> 1:39:50.000 Seattle team that was that That felt good to beat 1:39:50.000 --> 1:39:51.720 those guys because that team they were a little a 1:39:51.760 --> 1:39:53.960 little on the cocky side, little on the cocky side. 1:39:54.080 --> 1:39:58.280 I'll never forget you on top of the duck boat beard, 1:39:58.320 --> 1:40:02.519 out of control T shirt. It's freaking a tea freezy. 1:40:02.960 --> 1:40:06.280 There was somebody had a Richard Sherman sign where he 1:40:06.520 --> 1:40:09.680 was doing this and it and it said how many 1:40:09.920 --> 1:40:13.439 rings his brady had four? And you were up there 1:40:13.800 --> 1:40:16.840 interacting with the crowd and the fans and that sign. 1:40:17.560 --> 1:40:18.280 That was a good time. 1:40:19.040 --> 1:40:22.280 That was a good bueler day off full on after 1:40:22.360 --> 1:40:23.519 those ones are just chilled. 1:40:23.560 --> 1:40:26.640 Really, oh man, Jules, step back here. How do they 1:40:26.720 --> 1:40:28.600 tell you you want chipol and V be like, what's that? 1:40:28.920 --> 1:40:30.880 What's that? Process, like on the field, I think Stacy, 1:40:31.360 --> 1:40:32.200 can Stacey tell you? 1:40:34.520 --> 1:40:43.519 Let's see, I wouldn't be here without you so much. 1:40:43.560 --> 1:40:45.400 Boston for bringing another championship home. 1:40:46.560 --> 1:40:50.160 Trying to get the emotional open. Yes, that's when I 1:40:50.240 --> 1:40:51.920 was when I when I ask him about the m 1:40:52.000 --> 1:40:52.200 v P. 1:40:55.360 --> 1:40:58.120 Everyone together, six time champions? 1:40:58.320 --> 1:40:58.559 Are you. 1:41:07.360 --> 1:41:07.719 Crazy? 1:41:07.800 --> 1:41:07.920 Bro? 1:41:09.840 --> 1:41:10.280 MVP? 1:41:14.600 --> 1:41:20.280 She can't stay shure, We're only doing up there together. 1:41:20.680 --> 1:41:24.600 Oh man, have you noticed coach Belichick gate with his 1:41:24.760 --> 1:41:29.679 girl talk with that girl. We're together, baby, We're together. 1:41:29.880 --> 1:41:32.240 We're still here here, still here. 1:41:33.680 --> 1:41:33.920 Man. 1:41:34.760 --> 1:41:37.439 You know that that that was to be able to 1:41:37.720 --> 1:41:42.519 have witnessed your entire professional journey, you know, highs, lows, everything. 1:41:42.640 --> 1:41:48.240 That was maybe the highest moment for me as your brother, 1:41:48.360 --> 1:41:50.920 as your fan, like you won the m v P, 1:41:51.080 --> 1:41:54.640 the Super Bowl. We grew up watching this thing, you know, 1:41:54.760 --> 1:41:58.639 we grew up with a dream and to be able 1:41:58.640 --> 1:42:00.720 to make it to the biggest age and have that 1:42:00.840 --> 1:42:03.960 kind of success. It's just so proud of you. 1:42:04.080 --> 1:42:04.240 Man. 1:42:04.520 --> 1:42:11.639 Man, I'm proud of you. Man who plays sixteen years football? 1:42:12.240 --> 1:42:13.200 I fooled him pretty good. 1:42:13.400 --> 1:42:16.560 Get out of here. Let's let's give you some some 1:42:16.720 --> 1:42:19.320 quick hitters. What's Tom's legacy after this game. 1:42:19.760 --> 1:42:22.439 I mean, in my mind he was already the greatest, 1:42:23.200 --> 1:42:27.240 but this just further cemented. Like, you know, if football 1:42:27.320 --> 1:42:30.920 is about winning and and quarterbacking is about leading your 1:42:30.960 --> 1:42:35.439 team to win, then there's no argument that this game 1:42:35.560 --> 1:42:38.479 solidified him as the greatest player of all time. 1:42:38.560 --> 1:42:39.880 Well what about the next super Bowl? 1:42:40.680 --> 1:42:43.400 Well the next super Bowl? The emotions are a little 1:42:43.400 --> 1:42:47.439 bit different. I was a little bit angry. He should 1:42:47.439 --> 1:42:51.840 be with us. He loved us, he loves us. Talk. Sorry, 1:42:51.920 --> 1:42:53.960 did he ever text you? And let you know? 1:42:54.320 --> 1:42:56.080 I found out through a bottom ticker. 1:42:56.400 --> 1:42:58.320 If he didn't text you, you know he didn't text me. 1:42:58.920 --> 1:42:59.760 Bottom left us. 1:43:00.560 --> 1:43:02.639 He's giving me clues, but he was always giving, He's 1:43:02.640 --> 1:43:03.240 always talking. 1:43:03.320 --> 1:43:06.759 That left us, then he's over there, him and Gronk 1:43:06.840 --> 1:43:08.040 hoisting another one up. 1:43:08.439 --> 1:43:12.800 Never got hammered with us, Oh, staggering off the boat, 1:43:13.439 --> 1:43:17.720 never got hoisted the embody throwing it, getting real cavalier 1:43:17.840 --> 1:43:18.000 with it. 1:43:18.320 --> 1:43:20.680 Come on, Tom, I was happy for you, does but 1:43:21.000 --> 1:43:23.519 he left us. He left us, left us at the altar. 1:43:23.760 --> 1:43:25.559 And what are you supposed to do? You're happy your 1:43:25.600 --> 1:43:28.920 ex wife, Mary is a freaking man, the Navy seal. 1:43:28.720 --> 1:43:32.759 Billionaire, But Navy seal billionaire. 1:43:33.000 --> 1:43:35.519 Oh no you're not. 1:43:36.200 --> 1:43:39.000 That's the last person you want your wife to marry. 1:43:39.600 --> 1:43:41.080 Navy seal billionaire. 1:43:41.200 --> 1:43:43.120 That's what he did to us. That's what he did. 1:43:44.000 --> 1:43:46.680 Don't you just wanted to be happy? What don't you 1:43:46.800 --> 1:43:48.200 just want your ex wife to be happy? 1:43:48.840 --> 1:43:51.439 Come on, we want you to be happy. Now of 1:43:51.479 --> 1:43:54.200 this game embody the Patriot way to the fullest or 1:43:54.240 --> 1:43:54.800 what slate? 1:43:55.080 --> 1:43:57.800 This team embodied it? Right, This was not our best team, 1:43:59.000 --> 1:44:02.000 but we found way used to come together, to overcome, 1:44:02.160 --> 1:44:07.479 to you know, adjust and to ultimately win. And we found, 1:44:07.640 --> 1:44:11.040 you know a way to like dig within ourselves and 1:44:11.600 --> 1:44:13.560 be at our best when it was needed. So to me, 1:44:14.400 --> 1:44:17.920 not just this game and the way it transpired, but 1:44:18.040 --> 1:44:21.639 the way this season unfolded really embodied the Patriot way, 1:44:23.240 --> 1:44:25.599 you know, as much as any season that I think 1:44:25.640 --> 1:44:26.320 we were a part of. 1:44:26.680 --> 1:44:31.360 So now where does this game rink for greatest Matthew 1:44:31.439 --> 1:44:32.040 Slater game? 1:44:32.560 --> 1:44:34.000 Well, it's definitely one of my favorites. 1:44:34.320 --> 1:44:36.160 Well, I mean statistic wise too, do you have any 1:44:36.200 --> 1:44:36.960 tackles I had? 1:44:37.080 --> 1:44:40.960 I had a tackle this game. This is like a 1:44:41.000 --> 1:44:44.240 few down punts. So to the one handerlander, the one 1:44:44.280 --> 1:44:48.200 hand lander, one hander lander when I'll show my kids 1:44:48.280 --> 1:44:50.160 twenty years from now, just to remind them old dad 1:44:50.280 --> 1:44:53.280 used to be something. But this is up there. I 1:44:53.360 --> 1:44:56.479 mean because I think our unit, I mean your team 1:44:56.920 --> 1:45:01.280 individually it was special beat my dad's team being able 1:45:01.320 --> 1:45:05.519 to play well, but just our unit collectively, special teams. 1:45:05.560 --> 1:45:11.240 You know, Nate Keon, you know obviously, Ryan, Steve, Joe, 1:45:11.439 --> 1:45:15.960 all those guys. We've all played well and we helped 1:45:16.000 --> 1:45:17.400 the team win, which was huge. 1:45:17.600 --> 1:45:17.960 Geez. 1:45:18.920 --> 1:45:23.080 Was this Bill's best Super Bowl coaching? 1:45:24.560 --> 1:45:27.200 I mean, it's up there. I think if you look 1:45:27.200 --> 1:45:29.639 at the book end titles, right the first one against 1:45:29.680 --> 1:45:32.120 the Rams, I think that was some great code. 1:45:32.160 --> 1:45:34.639 What what about the Seattle where he didn't call the time. 1:45:34.560 --> 1:45:39.000 Out, creating a frenzy on this joking coach football nowt 1:45:39.840 --> 1:45:43.559 and a lot of this show was that's Jedi mind trick. 1:45:43.840 --> 1:45:48.640 Make no mistake about it. There are thirty you know, 1:45:48.760 --> 1:45:50.920 let's call it, well, maybe not thirty teams because some 1:45:51.040 --> 1:45:54.200 teams have good coaches. There are at least fifteen teams 1:45:54.240 --> 1:45:57.040 in the league that don't have a coach as good 1:45:57.040 --> 1:46:02.280 as this guy. They can't even sniffle I know, fifteen 1:46:02.439 --> 1:46:03.439 teams in the league. 1:46:03.960 --> 1:46:06.920 I'm just telling you, tell you right now, Atlanta, if 1:46:06.920 --> 1:46:08.000 you don't win that division. 1:46:09.080 --> 1:46:10.320 Look, I don't want to I don't want to point 1:46:10.360 --> 1:46:13.080 fingers at what the I'm just saying. I'm not saying 1:46:13.160 --> 1:46:15.439 a team. I'm not naming a team by name. I 1:46:15.479 --> 1:46:18.439 don't want to name a team. But the fact that 1:46:18.560 --> 1:46:19.800 this guy doesn't have a job. 1:46:20.040 --> 1:46:22.280 I wanted to go down to atl Man, go to 1:46:22.400 --> 1:46:27.639 the camps, taking the scene. Check out magic City. 1:46:28.320 --> 1:46:30.479 No, ain't no magic city over here. Now, ain't no 1:46:30.600 --> 1:46:34.720 magic city. No magic city, now shout it ain't no 1:46:34.840 --> 1:46:40.120 magic city. But uh yeah, man, it's This was definitely 1:46:40.200 --> 1:46:43.880 one of his all time I think great coaching performances. 1:46:44.479 --> 1:46:46.640 To shut that offense down, to come up with the 1:46:46.720 --> 1:46:50.680 game plan, to to really neutralize those guys. It goes 1:46:50.800 --> 1:46:51.439 up there for sure. 1:46:51.760 --> 1:46:58.519 Now, after this game, did you start to feel the 1:46:58.640 --> 1:47:01.160 sky in the its team was following out? 1:47:01.920 --> 1:47:04.240 Well, if we're honest, which is what we've been doing 1:47:04.280 --> 1:47:09.400 all day, seventeen was turbulent. There was turbulence in seventeen, 1:47:09.479 --> 1:47:13.960 and turbulence. Fasten your safety belts because that thing. 1:47:13.920 --> 1:47:16.280 Was a little rocky chunk. Ain't flying and not plane 1:47:16.360 --> 1:47:16.680 no more. 1:47:17.080 --> 1:47:22.000 Oh I'm sorry, PC I know you don't like flying. 1:47:22.040 --> 1:47:26.400 I learned that the hard way. But we were turbulent. 1:47:26.520 --> 1:47:30.760 Now now we were thirteen three super Bowl, but you know, 1:47:30.880 --> 1:47:34.080 it started with you getting hurt in the preseason and 1:47:34.200 --> 1:47:38.240 then there was just a lot of turbulence. Eighteen somehow 1:47:38.400 --> 1:47:41.080 we I don't know how, but we rallied up. We 1:47:41.200 --> 1:47:47.200 answered the bell nineteen. We're bringing her on in for landing, 1:47:47.880 --> 1:47:48.080 you know. 1:47:48.560 --> 1:47:50.040 And then and Aby didn't. 1:47:50.560 --> 1:47:53.640 Aby was we were on the Super Bowl. Ab was 1:47:53.680 --> 1:47:54.120 on the team. 1:47:54.520 --> 1:47:55.360 Aby was special. 1:47:55.439 --> 1:47:59.040 Man that that was one thing we needed because Gronk 1:47:59.240 --> 1:48:01.320 wasn't there, didn't have anything, you know what I mean. 1:48:01.360 --> 1:48:01.840 It was good. 1:48:02.720 --> 1:48:05.960 But you know what really did a sin was when 1:48:07.000 --> 1:48:10.639 TV left us at the altar. Yeah, left us. TV 1:48:10.920 --> 1:48:14.760 left us. We were there. We were ready, ready to 1:48:14.840 --> 1:48:17.200 serve you, ready to go out there and die for you. 1:48:17.560 --> 1:48:18.200 Ain't left us. 1:48:18.400 --> 1:48:20.280 There ain't no twelve walking through that damn door. 1:48:20.360 --> 1:48:25.240 Ain't no twelve walking through that door. And I love Camp. 1:48:25.840 --> 1:48:29.400 I love Camp. I enjoyed my time with cam. My 1:48:29.560 --> 1:48:33.080 fashion definitely went up and he was a great person 1:48:33.160 --> 1:48:35.720 to be around. So this is not a knock on 1:48:35.880 --> 1:48:40.240 Cam Newton at all, because this is an MVP player elite, 1:48:40.760 --> 1:48:46.240 but twelve levels at the altar. It's called what it is. Yeah, Tom, 1:48:46.880 --> 1:48:48.800 don't worry. Thomas still got your jersey up in my 1:48:48.880 --> 1:48:52.679 office right next to my dad's. You always be my guy. 1:48:52.880 --> 1:48:53.800 But you left us. 1:48:54.000 --> 1:48:58.120 He had left us, probably done the same thing ready. 1:49:01.960 --> 1:49:04.280 I mean, I'll be honest, I thought you were going 1:49:04.320 --> 1:49:07.240 down there too. I thought all you jokers are gonna 1:49:07.240 --> 1:49:09.519 go down there, and I was, Oh, I would have 1:49:09.560 --> 1:49:12.439 been steamed. I mean, all of a sudden, Gonk wants 1:49:12.479 --> 1:49:14.120 to resurface out of retirement. 1:49:16.439 --> 1:49:18.320 Out just ball out. 1:49:18.920 --> 1:49:22.040 I'm like, come on, Rob, But I get it. You 1:49:22.120 --> 1:49:24.479 know I'll joking a sign. I get it. 1:49:24.920 --> 1:49:25.439 We get it. 1:49:25.680 --> 1:49:27.160 Everything happened the way I was supposed to. 1:49:28.040 --> 1:49:31.600 How about this rumblings of Bill potentially joining. 1:49:31.880 --> 1:49:36.080 The media this year, Oh, that would be something. How 1:49:36.120 --> 1:49:36.680 do you think he'd do? 1:49:37.160 --> 1:49:37.439 Kill it? 1:49:37.960 --> 1:49:38.400 You think so? 1:49:38.680 --> 1:49:41.840 Yeah, he's so smart. You're watching all those NFL things. 1:49:42.560 --> 1:49:44.960 Whenever he does that stuff, it's a historical thing. He'll 1:49:45.040 --> 1:49:47.240 kill it. But I straight up told him if he 1:49:47.920 --> 1:49:50.679 if he goes out and doesn't come on this podcast, 1:49:50.760 --> 1:49:56.760 Games with Names, I took the shitty contracts. Okay, I 1:49:57.760 --> 1:50:01.479 worked my dick off Yeah, I was asshole here and 1:50:01.560 --> 1:50:04.400 there sometimes, and Poudy here and there. But I put 1:50:04.479 --> 1:50:04.960 on the work. 1:50:05.200 --> 1:50:06.599 He needs to be sitting right in the sea. 1:50:06.720 --> 1:50:07.800 I need coach right here. 1:50:08.040 --> 1:50:11.559 Especially if Ernie comes. If Ernie comes on the pond, 1:50:12.080 --> 1:50:14.599 he's gotta come, he's gotta come. 1:50:14.760 --> 1:50:17.479 You gotta get coach on the only one that goddamn 1:50:17.520 --> 1:50:19.160 media going to bat for him. 1:50:19.400 --> 1:50:23.760 Remember all year, all year down with the ship that 1:50:23.880 --> 1:50:24.400 was Amano. 1:50:24.880 --> 1:50:26.560 You went down with the ship I was. 1:50:26.840 --> 1:50:29.599 I was like one of those violin players on the Titanic. 1:50:29.760 --> 1:50:30.879 You were the guy violated. 1:50:31.000 --> 1:50:33.519 I'm playing that tune till I can't play it anymore. 1:50:33.720 --> 1:50:36.960 I'm going down. I'm committed to this ship, committed to 1:50:37.000 --> 1:50:39.720 the captain of the ship, and I'm going down with it. 1:50:39.840 --> 1:50:41.960 I was one of the lifeboat workers that had to, 1:50:42.400 --> 1:50:45.240 you know, go down with the lifeboat but still lived. 1:50:45.680 --> 1:50:46.439 But yeah, still with. 1:50:46.880 --> 1:50:49.679 Well, I'm fully gone. 1:50:49.920 --> 1:50:54.680 I can't no that ain't you You're the guy your captain, bro, 1:50:54.880 --> 1:50:56.719 you were in No, no, no, Bill's a captain. 1:50:56.800 --> 1:50:59.160 Bill's a captain. I'm just a part of that band, 1:51:00.120 --> 1:51:01.280 playing my tune all the way. 1:51:01.479 --> 1:51:07.639 Oh he went down last and all Jackie, we got 1:51:07.680 --> 1:51:09.640 he leftovers we missed anything. 1:51:09.680 --> 1:51:11.479 Was like a quick question, or was did this year 1:51:11.520 --> 1:51:13.720 feel like a different Bill? Or like was there was 1:51:13.760 --> 1:51:15.360 there a reason we're writing on the wall. I don't 1:51:15.360 --> 1:51:17.760 want to you mean this past season. Yeah, I don't 1:51:17.760 --> 1:51:18.439 want to pry too. 1:51:18.360 --> 1:51:21.800 Much, but no, I'm retired. You know, this year was tough. 1:51:22.240 --> 1:51:26.000 It was challenging, and the one thing of anything that 1:51:26.120 --> 1:51:29.519 I saw was that we know how competitive Bill is. 1:51:30.160 --> 1:51:32.360 He wants to win, not just every game, he wants 1:51:32.360 --> 1:51:36.280 to win every practice, every meeting, every lifting session, and 1:51:36.720 --> 1:51:38.680 it was hard for him not to win. It was 1:51:38.760 --> 1:51:41.320 hard for all of us, but no one put more 1:51:41.800 --> 1:51:45.240 time and effort and commitment into that program than Bill, 1:51:45.800 --> 1:51:49.320 So it was certainly hard for him to you know, 1:51:49.640 --> 1:51:51.680 experience that. It was hard for all of us. I mean, 1:51:53.120 --> 1:51:56.120 you know, being in that building where we had so 1:51:56.280 --> 1:51:59.080 much success, to experience four and thirteen. It wasn't It 1:51:59.200 --> 1:52:02.479 wasn't fun. It was not fun. But the one thing 1:52:02.520 --> 1:52:06.400 I'll say about coach is he never changed. Like if 1:52:06.439 --> 1:52:09.920 you said in the team meeting week seventeen, we're playing 1:52:10.439 --> 1:52:13.880 the Jets, he's coaching us like it's the AFC Championship game. 1:52:14.000 --> 1:52:19.320 Like the consistency, the readiness, the preparation. It never changed, 1:52:19.360 --> 1:52:22.760 and that really gave me a great appreciation for who 1:52:22.800 --> 1:52:23.720 Bill Belichick is. 1:52:24.200 --> 1:52:29.120 I think he softened up. I'm just saying, I remember 1:52:29.120 --> 1:52:31.479 when I was on my way out, I'm like, the 1:52:31.560 --> 1:52:35.120 fuck's going on around here? His plays getting soft? He 1:52:35.280 --> 1:52:38.519 tried to change. That's the problem. He tried to change 1:52:38.560 --> 1:52:39.320 with the times. 1:52:40.280 --> 1:52:42.240 Coaches just want to be on record for saying, I 1:52:42.280 --> 1:52:46.200 don't you know, I stay with you, united coach united 1:52:46.760 --> 1:52:50.360 to the end. That doesn't me and I agree with everything. 1:52:50.320 --> 1:52:51.120 Had your back tilled. 1:52:51.439 --> 1:52:52.800 He didn't agree with everything. 1:52:52.600 --> 1:52:56.280 I did, but sure, you know, but things got a 1:52:56.400 --> 1:52:59.160 little softer when I went on my way out. I'm 1:52:59.200 --> 1:52:59.639 just joking. 1:53:00.240 --> 1:53:02.200 Were you saying, Are you implying that it was a 1:53:02.840 --> 1:53:04.240 Mickey Mouse operation? 1:53:04.400 --> 1:53:07.160 Absolutely not, Okay, I'm just saying things that just want 1:53:07.200 --> 1:53:09.680 to like sure, like guys, it wasn't the. 1:53:09.760 --> 1:53:12.519 Same Like did Kendrick Bourne ever throw a helmet? 1:53:13.120 --> 1:53:17.559 Oh, Kendrick Bourne and throwing our helmets soft? We didn't 1:53:17.560 --> 1:53:19.400 have a helmet thrower. That was a problem. I tried 1:53:19.439 --> 1:53:21.479 to toss mine one time. I just had a character, 1:53:21.600 --> 1:53:25.200 couldn't then pull it off. We needed Jaye. There was 1:53:25.280 --> 1:53:26.920 no je no j came to the risk. 1:53:27.040 --> 1:53:29.240 It was the first thing I first practiced, said come 1:53:29.320 --> 1:53:31.120 back like everyone's looking at me like he's gonna throw 1:53:31.120 --> 1:53:31.519 a helmet. 1:53:32.280 --> 1:53:35.720 Yes, we needed and then to wrap this thing up, 1:53:35.800 --> 1:53:38.240 we talked to Keep to leave. We talked to Wes Welker, 1:53:38.640 --> 1:53:41.439 and we talked Bill Belichick Slate with a great recall 1:53:41.520 --> 1:53:45.599 of a moment from twenty fourteen January twenty fourteen. Indeed, 1:53:45.880 --> 1:53:48.120 Wes Welker did hurt to Keep to leave on a 1:53:48.200 --> 1:53:51.519 pick play, and Bill was quoted telling Mike Grease one 1:53:51.560 --> 1:53:55.040 of the worst plays I've seen, the way it turned out. 1:53:55.479 --> 1:53:57.680 I went and I watched it back. I didn't have 1:53:57.760 --> 1:54:00.479 a clear chance to yesterday. It was a deliver played 1:54:00.520 --> 1:54:02.320 by the receiver to take out a keep. 1:54:02.800 --> 1:54:08.639 No attempt to say the Bill West rivalry it's out there, 1:54:08.920 --> 1:54:12.400 I think, fellas, can we just bridge the yaff here? 1:54:12.640 --> 1:54:14.880 Like you guys did a lot of great things together. 1:54:15.680 --> 1:54:18.840 But I've been agreeing with Bill. He had he was 1:54:18.920 --> 1:54:19.599 out for blood. 1:54:20.040 --> 1:54:20.960 Oh he was out for blood. 1:54:21.080 --> 1:54:24.920 It was personal, personal, and he took a key bout 1:54:25.560 --> 1:54:28.080 cost us the game. You know what, So, Wes, I 1:54:28.160 --> 1:54:31.000 hope you consid there and feel good and is Wes 1:54:31.120 --> 1:54:32.960 now coaching his players to do that? Is he coaching 1:54:33.000 --> 1:54:36.880 Tyree do that illegal picks? Guys? I hope not Wes. 1:54:37.000 --> 1:54:41.480 I player safety West player player safety te Belichick. 1:54:43.080 --> 1:54:47.320 Let's name the game. Let's name the game. Beat l 1:54:47.400 --> 1:54:53.680 A thirteen and three, The Passion of the Punt or 1:54:53.760 --> 1:54:56.280 the edel Nut Game. I think it's the passion of 1:54:56.320 --> 1:54:56.720 the punt. 1:54:57.240 --> 1:54:59.920 I mean, I love that name. I love all those names. 1:55:01.160 --> 1:55:05.560 But because we were Boston sports guys, and because LA, 1:55:05.960 --> 1:55:08.600 we just don't like LA, even though I'm from out 1:55:08.600 --> 1:55:10.640 of here. You gotta go beat l A. 1:55:10.800 --> 1:55:12.240 Howd you get one of the T shirts that we 1:55:12.320 --> 1:55:14.880 were selling, Remember the beat l A T shirt? Oh? 1:55:14.920 --> 1:55:17.600 I got all the merch, just making sure I got 1:55:17.640 --> 1:55:18.200 all them merch. 1:55:18.280 --> 1:55:20.280 Oh man, big time missed by me on this one. 1:55:20.440 --> 1:55:22.840 This was the same year the Red Sox beat the Dodgers. 1:55:22.800 --> 1:55:24.840 Same year, so it was a big yeah in l A. 1:55:25.080 --> 1:55:26.320 And you beat the Chargers too. 1:55:26.800 --> 1:55:27.880 We beat the Chargers and. 1:55:28.040 --> 1:55:30.839 Everybody thought the Charger is gonna stomp us out stump 1:55:31.080 --> 1:55:33.920 and we just score beat the brakes off of them. 1:55:34.640 --> 1:55:42.400 I fell back because I liked Anthony Lynn. Yeah, I 1:55:42.480 --> 1:55:44.720 was forty. I liked it. I don't know why. I 1:55:44.880 --> 1:55:46.240 just liked Anthony Lynn. 1:55:46.360 --> 1:55:48.600 I did too. I like Anthony. I liked a lot 1:55:48.640 --> 1:55:52.120 of guys on that team. Pete riv obviously, Keenan Allen, 1:55:53.080 --> 1:56:00.320 Adrian Phillips, who Slayation beat l A. There it is La, 1:56:00.480 --> 1:56:05.880 it will forever be a Boston mantral A. Visit J 1:56:06.040 --> 1:56:09.360 eleven dot com to purchase your merchandise today, which is 1:56:09.440 --> 1:56:11.800 now just games, which is another thing you can't do 1:56:11.960 --> 1:56:15.280 if you don't win, is sell merchandise, games and names. 1:56:19.560 --> 1:56:22.120 Let's score the game presented by the win Las Vegas 1:56:22.160 --> 1:56:25.520 and Encore Boston Harbor. Is this the greatest game of 1:56:25.600 --> 1:56:30.520 all time? Let's score it. Steaks one to ten? What 1:56:30.760 --> 1:56:34.360 are Decimo's okay, slate one to ten? What are the stakes? 1:56:34.440 --> 1:56:36.600 I mean, steaks are always high in a Super Bowl. 1:56:37.040 --> 1:56:41.320 Legacies on the line, last, the life of the dynasty 1:56:42.440 --> 1:56:47.960 still alive, Bob, So she would say, it's still so 1:56:48.080 --> 1:56:52.920 I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say seven point. 1:56:53.760 --> 1:56:56.960 Eight integrity score. What I tell you guys, He's gonna 1:56:57.000 --> 1:57:00.520 have a very integrity type score. Star power, our power. 1:57:01.280 --> 1:57:04.120 I mean, you look at it. You've got some all 1:57:04.200 --> 1:57:06.960 time greats in this game. You've got the greatest player 1:57:07.000 --> 1:57:09.120 in the history of the game. You've got arguably the 1:57:09.160 --> 1:57:11.800 greatest defensive player in the history of the game. You've 1:57:11.840 --> 1:57:14.200 got the greatest tight end in the history game. You've 1:57:14.280 --> 1:57:17.320 got the greatest slot receiver in history of the game. 1:57:17.600 --> 1:57:21.800 Wes Welker played, Oh no, Wow, West was good. Wow, 1:57:21.880 --> 1:57:25.040 Wes was good. You've got we've talked about a key, 1:57:25.080 --> 1:57:27.920 we've talked about got. Star power is pretty high. So 1:57:28.080 --> 1:57:28.680 out of ten. 1:57:29.360 --> 1:57:33.040 Also, Maroon five played the halftime show last night pre 1:57:33.120 --> 1:57:38.520 game national anthem. Who glads Knight still last night? Still 1:57:38.560 --> 1:57:38.840 got it? 1:57:38.960 --> 1:57:39.200 At it? 1:57:39.800 --> 1:57:42.640 Well, gladys Knight's got to bring the score up by yourself. 1:57:43.360 --> 1:57:46.120 So we're to the star power eight point one eight 1:57:46.160 --> 1:57:50.800 point one slid gameplay game play, Well, you're asking the 1:57:50.840 --> 1:57:54.360 wrong guy. Special teams, game I mean gameplay, special teams. 1:57:54.400 --> 1:57:58.120 Why it's ten point zero. But I think overall gameplay, 1:57:58.280 --> 1:58:02.360 you know, and this is from a football guy who 1:58:02.560 --> 1:58:07.600 enjoys defense, enjoys grittiness. I'm gonna give that. I'm gonna 1:58:07.600 --> 1:58:10.400 give that gameplay an eight point nine eight point nine 1:58:10.680 --> 1:58:11.560 given an eight point. 1:58:11.520 --> 1:58:16.800 Nine defensive guy, son of an offensive guy, Special team 1:58:16.840 --> 1:58:18.000 all time great but going. 1:58:18.000 --> 1:58:20.960 But going to the defense, going to defense through football guy, 1:58:21.200 --> 1:58:22.000 true football guy. 1:58:22.120 --> 1:58:24.120 Name of the game, beat la beat l A. 1:58:24.280 --> 1:58:27.760 I mean, look, we're Boston people, right. My home is 1:58:27.840 --> 1:58:33.320 in Boston now, so we're gonna have to go We're 1:58:33.360 --> 1:58:35.400 gonna have to go nine. Oh I know on that, 1:58:36.080 --> 1:58:37.280 I know on the on the name. 1:58:37.480 --> 1:58:40.040 What's there total? If Gronk was here, he'd just be 1:58:40.120 --> 1:58:41.120 able to put it right out. 1:58:42.000 --> 1:58:44.480 He didn't. He is crazy with that. He is crazy 1:58:44.520 --> 1:58:46.400 with that. We did eight point four. 1:58:47.560 --> 1:58:49.640 Where does it land in the games that we have done? 1:58:50.000 --> 1:58:52.879 Oh? Man, this one puts us right between the twenty 1:58:53.040 --> 1:58:57.640 eleven AFC Divisional Round game aka the Can't Wait Game 1:58:58.200 --> 1:59:00.400 Jets For's Patrios. Oh, let's forget about that, oh Bart 1:59:00.440 --> 1:59:06.120 Scott can't Wait, and right behind the Seattle versus New 1:59:06.160 --> 1:59:09.920 England Super Bowl, the Malcolm Butler game, Super Blood wolf Moon. 1:59:11.040 --> 1:59:13.720 We did that one with Rob Wriggle. Yeah, remember that, 1:59:13.800 --> 1:59:14.560 one of our favorites. 1:59:14.640 --> 1:59:19.680 Yeah's was he a cop? 1:59:20.160 --> 1:59:20.840 He was a marine? 1:59:20.960 --> 1:59:22.320 He was a marine. That's what it was. 1:59:22.480 --> 1:59:24.600 He played a cop in the Hangover though he did 1:59:25.480 --> 1:59:26.200 he did that. 1:59:27.040 --> 1:59:27.760 He was a marine? 1:59:28.920 --> 1:59:29.440 Is he is? 1:59:29.520 --> 1:59:30.520 He hilarious person? 1:59:30.760 --> 1:59:33.880 So dude, We've had some really, we got some funny 1:59:33.920 --> 1:59:37.320 people who we just had uh Lewis black On here, 1:59:37.440 --> 1:59:37.840 he had some. 1:59:37.920 --> 1:59:41.800 Peoples, Gary Goleman was was funny. 1:59:43.400 --> 1:59:46.520 Was really We've got some comics, you know. You know, 1:59:46.680 --> 1:59:49.600 because we started the show with Sam, we've been kind 1:59:49.600 --> 1:59:52.400 of introduced into this whole comic world in all the comics, 1:59:53.480 --> 1:59:56.480 you know, and I've kind of developed relationships with these 1:59:56.520 --> 1:59:59.600 guys and yeah, they're so funny. Do you think you're 1:59:59.680 --> 2:00:03.040 like giggly, No, these guys are pros over here. 2:00:03.040 --> 2:00:06.400 Is just killing it. Just wait, I like the riddle 2:00:07.080 --> 2:00:07.600 big fan of. 2:00:09.200 --> 2:00:12.960 Ten minutes early was he prompt prompt marine. 2:00:13.000 --> 2:00:14.040 That's that marine and marine. 2:00:14.160 --> 2:00:19.120 He gave a marine coin, he gave his nice slate. 2:00:19.200 --> 2:00:21.560 Anything, Dad, we covered a lot. 2:00:22.320 --> 2:00:24.000 What about you know, maybe give a plug to the 2:00:24.040 --> 2:00:24.600 JC guy. 2:00:27.800 --> 2:00:29.800 It's a beautiful thing, though, that a Jewish man and 2:00:29.880 --> 2:00:33.280 a Christian man can sit down and find common ground. 2:00:33.800 --> 2:00:35.720 I just want to say that that's one of the 2:00:35.760 --> 2:00:39.280 beautiful things about football. We find common ground. And there's 2:00:39.280 --> 2:00:43.120 a society. It would it would serve us all well 2:00:43.280 --> 2:00:45.520 to be able to find common. 2:00:45.520 --> 2:00:47.360 But we have one common goal in the locker room 2:00:48.000 --> 2:00:48.560 in society. 2:00:48.640 --> 2:00:50.480 Not everyone's in there. That's unfortunately have fun. 2:00:50.640 --> 2:00:54.760 That's unfortunately it's not having fun, it's winning at all cost. 2:00:55.000 --> 2:00:56.520 Thanks Bro, I appreciate you coming on. 2:00:56.920 --> 2:00:57.640 Thanks for having me. 2:01:00.960 --> 2:01:03.000 Man, that was a great show. 2:01:03.160 --> 2:01:05.560 Slate is. You hear the stories about what a great 2:01:05.560 --> 2:01:07.280 guy Slate is and then he lives up to it, 2:01:07.360 --> 2:01:08.000 and then some in. 2:01:08.040 --> 2:01:12.320 Person, Oh you feel the greatness when he enters a 2:01:12.520 --> 2:01:15.400 room of his just pure aura. 2:01:16.000 --> 2:01:18.720 I can see why any locker room just instantly gets 2:01:18.760 --> 2:01:20.320 bet any room, you. 2:01:20.360 --> 2:01:24.240 Know, And it's it's so crazy because we literally came in. 2:01:24.600 --> 2:01:27.080 He was a year a year in and I came in. 2:01:27.680 --> 2:01:30.320 You know, we were the slap dicks just sitting there 2:01:30.440 --> 2:01:32.880 like he was saying, like, are we gonna make the 2:01:33.000 --> 2:01:37.880 team too? You know, he's he's probably he's probably gonna 2:01:37.880 --> 2:01:39.720 go in the Hall of Fame for being a special teamer. 2:01:40.240 --> 2:01:42.680 And I mean crazy to think he is the first 2:01:42.720 --> 2:01:46.240 father's on duo in there, captain, the captain, but. 2:01:46.520 --> 2:01:48.080 To play sixteen years? 2:01:48.760 --> 2:01:49.920 Do you think I wanted to ask him, but we 2:01:49.960 --> 2:01:52.680 didn't get a chance, Like do you think his career 2:01:52.760 --> 2:01:55.000 it was a unique career, an amazing career, would have 2:01:55.040 --> 2:01:56.720 been possible anywhere outside of New England. 2:01:56.920 --> 2:01:59.960 I don't know, probably just because of who he is. 2:02:00.120 --> 2:02:02.280 I think, so, you're right, But it's just like his 2:02:03.360 --> 2:02:05.480 his spirit and the guy that he is in the 2:02:05.560 --> 2:02:09.160 toughness that he brings and paired with bills, coaching and 2:02:09.200 --> 2:02:11.600 love for special teams like I love it. 2:02:12.040 --> 2:02:14.640 No, I mean we we didn't even get into Scotty O'Brien, 2:02:14.680 --> 2:02:17.160 which I wish we did a little more. You know, 2:02:17.280 --> 2:02:21.400 for the first four years of my career, me and 2:02:21.600 --> 2:02:25.760 Slate at like five or thirty in the morning had 2:02:25.800 --> 2:02:29.560 to go in and meet with Scottio and he would 2:02:29.640 --> 2:02:32.360 basically give us the presentation of what he was going 2:02:32.400 --> 2:02:37.480 to present to the team, the coaching points that everything 2:02:37.560 --> 2:02:39.920 we're going to install, that we're going to install this, 2:02:41.160 --> 2:02:42.840 and then we had to sit in. Me and Slate, 2:02:43.640 --> 2:02:48.000 we had to sit in every special team's unit, field goal, 2:02:48.040 --> 2:02:51.200 field goal, everything, just you know, and and hear it again. 2:02:51.720 --> 2:02:52.760 And you guys heard it first. 2:02:52.840 --> 2:02:56.160 Just the three half the time it'd be Scottio telling 2:02:56.240 --> 2:02:58.280 us we're going on the other halftime would be him 2:02:58.320 --> 2:03:02.000 talking about his boat and his big gas ranch and Wisconsin. 2:03:03.760 --> 2:03:04.040 Shoot. 2:03:04.080 --> 2:03:06.520 I got two million books in the bait now We're 2:03:06.600 --> 2:03:08.560 like two guys trying to make a team. Don't even 2:03:08.600 --> 2:03:13.360 have ten thousand dollars their name, Scottio at least flexing. 2:03:13.440 --> 2:03:16.400 He's flexing. Oh my god, that's incredible. And to see 2:03:17.000 --> 2:03:20.080 the near the stories the Domino's pizza boxes as the 2:03:20.160 --> 2:03:24.440 dining room or the coffee table. And Shane, yeah, well 2:03:24.520 --> 2:03:26.920 next time he'll be on live show maybe show and 2:03:27.000 --> 2:03:30.120 then what's to be sick? 2:03:30.160 --> 2:03:34.000 What's great about slaves? Like so much in sports media discourse, 2:03:34.360 --> 2:03:36.680 there's a lot to talk about, like, oh the honesty 2:03:36.840 --> 2:03:37.520 was just all Brady. 2:03:37.560 --> 2:03:38.120 Bill sucks. 2:03:38.120 --> 2:03:41.080 It's all Bill this and like to win at such 2:03:41.080 --> 2:03:43.640 a high level for so long. It's a building filled 2:03:43.680 --> 2:03:46.040 with guys like Matthew Slater. Great, right, and you need 2:03:46.120 --> 2:03:47.720 to have all those teams. I'm sure the Chiefs have 2:03:47.800 --> 2:03:50.200 their own version. If you plugged into you'd find those guys. 2:03:50.280 --> 2:03:52.800 So that's how you win championships. Is a building full 2:03:52.800 --> 2:03:54.840 of guys like that. I don't know if there's another 2:03:54.880 --> 2:03:56.760 one like yeah, just as I was saying that he 2:03:56.880 --> 2:03:57.400 is one of them. 2:03:57.520 --> 2:04:02.200 There's another person that only play special teams and men 2:04:02.320 --> 2:04:04.680 on every phase look up to him the way people 2:04:04.720 --> 2:04:05.120 look up. 2:04:05.080 --> 2:04:06.720 To Slate the world to be a lot better place 2:04:06.720 --> 2:04:07.880 if there are more Slates in the world. 2:04:08.440 --> 2:04:11.480 He would, you know, Chris long over here, Oh you know, 2:04:11.680 --> 2:04:14.160 I'd love them with my wife and kid. Well, Slate's 2:04:14.160 --> 2:04:17.800 actually in my trust. If I go down, and there's 2:04:17.800 --> 2:04:20.840 a few other things that have to happen. Slate is 2:04:21.000 --> 2:04:27.880 holding court on everything in the papers signed him. I 2:04:28.000 --> 2:04:30.480 had to have the auditor, the guy with the what 2:04:30.680 --> 2:04:34.920 is it the notary notary notary say you at the 2:04:35.000 --> 2:04:38.320 house notary? What's it for? Yeah, just don't worry. Due 2:04:38.320 --> 2:04:39.920 you're gonna run my life if I die. 2:04:41.000 --> 2:04:43.280 So if you ever go down, that's the first place 2:04:43.320 --> 2:04:45.920 you look with slates number one. 2:04:46.000 --> 2:04:49.080 Well, no, there's like there's like, there's a couple, there's 2:04:49.120 --> 2:04:52.640 a couple, there's a there's a few different like let's 2:04:52.680 --> 2:04:53.560 not talk about. 2:04:54.840 --> 2:04:58.720 Democracy, all right, let's let's go to the hot linette. 2:04:58.800 --> 2:04:59.240 Let's do it. 2:05:00.200 --> 2:05:04.840 I being in that and again that number for two 2:05:04.920 --> 2:05:08.360 four zero for two four two. 2:05:08.280 --> 2:05:11.560 Nine one to two nine zero, Like you said, Yeah. 2:05:11.720 --> 2:05:15.840 I'm a fifteen year old from Massachuset. Fis wondering what 2:05:16.040 --> 2:05:19.160 advice to give to a sixteen year old get in 2:05:19.280 --> 2:05:22.920 high school. That only different introduce on a. 2:05:24.520 --> 2:05:28.120 Sixteen year old. Vice advice on and off the field, 2:05:28.280 --> 2:05:35.000 On and off the field, Ignore noise, you know, ignore noise. 2:05:35.000 --> 2:05:37.760 There's always gonna be someone that says you can't do 2:05:37.960 --> 2:05:41.360 something like if you read any book or you hear 2:05:41.440 --> 2:05:43.960 any story about anyone that got anywhere that they had 2:05:43.960 --> 2:05:46.520 to deal with it, even the greatest look at Tom Brady. 2:05:47.080 --> 2:05:50.880 Always be ready to learn, and be hungry to learn, 2:05:51.400 --> 2:05:56.440 and and give max effort. Always. You know, even if 2:05:56.440 --> 2:05:58.960 you're the stud on the team, don't be the guy 2:05:59.080 --> 2:06:03.720 that runs this friends and doesn't take it serious because 2:06:03.960 --> 2:06:06.240 you know you could throw the best on the team, 2:06:07.080 --> 2:06:09.200 or you know, you want to be that guy like 2:06:09.280 --> 2:06:12.480 a Matthew Slater that you know is the badass on 2:06:12.560 --> 2:06:15.120 the team wins in the off season. Always, you know, 2:06:15.200 --> 2:06:16.720 that's the kind of guy you want to be. And 2:06:17.200 --> 2:06:19.600 and you'll go you'll go further, and it'll it'll help 2:06:19.640 --> 2:06:22.400 you in life. That's what I would say. That's that's 2:06:22.480 --> 2:06:26.160 good lifelong advice, best for retirement. Now compound interest. 2:06:26.480 --> 2:06:30.680 I was gonna say, start a TikTok accounting being TikToker. 2:06:31.640 --> 2:06:36.840 Hey Jules, it's Boston taxi. Remember you was going home 2:06:37.560 --> 2:06:42.400 on your skateboard, on your motorized skateboard, and you took. 2:06:42.320 --> 2:06:44.480 That live turn around the corner of that blind corner 2:06:45.280 --> 2:06:48.000 you met my cav almost ran in your ass over 2:06:48.840 --> 2:06:50.160 you know what I mean. We dapted out and all 2:06:50.200 --> 2:06:53.360 that ship. It was that same season you got popped 2:06:53.400 --> 2:06:57.560 for you know, you know. But yeah, man, good to 2:06:58.000 --> 2:07:00.280 you know, check in on you to see how you doing. 2:07:01.400 --> 2:07:03.560 The look on the future and all that. 2:07:03.760 --> 2:07:06.800 Man, give me back Boston Taxi. 2:07:07.520 --> 2:07:08.520 I do remember that. 2:07:09.640 --> 2:07:09.880 I do. 2:07:10.600 --> 2:07:14.480 I was hitting this turn all my little motorized thing 2:07:14.600 --> 2:07:16.760 and he was coming I think it was Dartmouth or something, 2:07:16.800 --> 2:07:19.280 and it was a back alley of back bay or something. 2:07:20.320 --> 2:07:23.520 And he goes and I stop and he stopped and 2:07:23.640 --> 2:07:26.520 I went and I hit his cab. He looked at 2:07:26.520 --> 2:07:28.720 each other, He looked at me. I looked at him 2:07:29.800 --> 2:07:31.840 and I just said, oh, thank god, we didn't get that. 2:07:32.160 --> 2:07:34.880 And He's like, we tapped up and went on my way. 2:07:35.120 --> 2:07:35.960 Oh my gosh. 2:07:36.320 --> 2:07:37.400 You remember that for all these years. 2:07:37.440 --> 2:07:37.800 I love that. 2:07:38.400 --> 2:07:38.800 Check it in. 2:07:39.440 --> 2:07:40.720 Yeah, And it was crazy. 2:07:41.080 --> 2:07:43.640 I'm good, bro, you used to fly on that thing. 2:07:43.920 --> 2:07:44.080 Fly. 2:07:45.560 --> 2:07:47.680 I'll tell I'll tell coach that. 2:07:49.320 --> 2:07:52.320 What I'm wondering, what your favorite team. 2:07:52.240 --> 2:07:52.800 Was to play. 2:07:54.560 --> 2:07:59.520 Favorite team to play probably how it honestly comes down 2:07:59.600 --> 2:08:04.120 to three, it would either be the Jets, Baltimore or 2:08:04.200 --> 2:08:08.960 Kansas City Jets, because you know, anytime it was Boston 2:08:09.000 --> 2:08:12.080 New York, it was always big. There's that rivalry. 2:08:12.440 --> 2:08:13.120 We usually won. 2:08:13.560 --> 2:08:16.480 We usually won. I usually had a lot of good stats, 2:08:17.280 --> 2:08:19.320 but no, like I loved going to New York and 2:08:19.400 --> 2:08:21.680 playing because you you know, you feel like you're you're 2:08:21.800 --> 2:08:25.360 driving in from New Jersey and you see the skyline 2:08:25.360 --> 2:08:27.920 in the city. It was just always a crazy Billy 2:08:28.000 --> 2:08:32.120 Joel Billy Jowels on the headphones. You know, just it 2:08:32.280 --> 2:08:35.720 was always fun. Kansas City because I remember playing them 2:08:35.800 --> 2:08:38.640 before they had Patrick. It was always, you know, a 2:08:38.760 --> 2:08:42.240 tough game. They always had like some really good football 2:08:42.360 --> 2:08:46.720 players in those and and years against you know, Mahomes 2:08:46.760 --> 2:08:50.040 and Kelsey. It's just they were the young gun team 2:08:50.120 --> 2:08:52.440 and we were like the old Vets. So like you 2:08:52.520 --> 2:08:56.120 always like stacking up against, you know, the best teams. 2:08:56.120 --> 2:08:58.280 And the Baltimore it was always a physical game. We 2:08:58.360 --> 2:09:00.960 played them so much in my early in my career, 2:09:01.120 --> 2:09:04.360 middle of my career in the playoffs, in the regular season. 2:09:05.480 --> 2:09:08.520 Always had a lot of respect for their players. You know, 2:09:08.600 --> 2:09:11.640 they came into our house and whipped our ass. You know, 2:09:11.840 --> 2:09:14.800 a couple of times you felt Baltimore. When you went 2:09:14.840 --> 2:09:17.480 to Baltimore. You got ray Lewis doing the war dance 2:09:17.560 --> 2:09:19.080 I did. I played against him when he was doing 2:09:19.120 --> 2:09:22.320 war dance, you know, on the team, and then every 2:09:22.400 --> 2:09:24.600 time we played and he didn't play, he was doing 2:09:24.720 --> 2:09:26.800 war dance, coming out. 2:09:26.680 --> 2:09:29.880 To smoke Ian, that whole thing. It's just fun. 2:09:30.320 --> 2:09:32.800 I liked playing in the competitive games, and then the 2:09:32.920 --> 2:09:36.240 Jets that's you know that that's one of our arrivals. 2:09:36.320 --> 2:09:38.400 So those those were the fun games I remember. 2:09:38.800 --> 2:09:45.440 But November twenty twenty twenty two, Jillette Stadium, Foxborough, Massachusetts, 2:09:45.960 --> 2:09:49.640 just visiting the Patriots, all time three to three after 2:09:49.800 --> 2:09:53.760 fifty nine and a half minutes, looking like overtime. Brayden 2:09:53.840 --> 2:09:56.520 Man squares up to kick the seventeenth punt of the game, 2:09:57.160 --> 2:09:59.480 but he left the ball over the middle of the field. 2:10:00.280 --> 2:10:04.120 Marcus Jones catches it starts to run back. This is 2:10:04.600 --> 2:10:08.040 the Marcus Jones game, Julian, This is Joe from Lynn 2:10:08.200 --> 2:10:12.040 Mass I was at this game. Even though it's stunk, 2:10:13.200 --> 2:10:15.000 it can be saved. A game can be saved. By 2:10:15.000 --> 2:10:19.080 a single play. The stadium was absolutely hyped after this. 2:10:19.960 --> 2:10:23.120 Me and my brother were their love the podcast. Everything 2:10:23.160 --> 2:10:25.520 You're do and keep it up, Bro, I like it. 2:10:25.920 --> 2:10:29.600 That was a great intro, great intro, love the guy, 2:10:29.960 --> 2:10:32.080 but absolute shit game. 2:10:32.160 --> 2:10:34.160 If we ever do this game, it's over. 2:10:34.760 --> 2:10:37.000 I mean he even said it's stunk. 2:10:37.280 --> 2:10:37.920 It's stunk. 2:10:38.280 --> 2:10:38.760 He was there. 2:10:38.960 --> 2:10:39.480 He was there. 2:10:40.120 --> 2:10:44.320 Lynn Mass stand up, Yeah, baby, stand up. That's a 2:10:44.400 --> 2:10:45.520 great That was a great calling. 2:10:45.640 --> 2:10:48.200 That was awesome. Great play by Marcus Jones. 2:10:48.680 --> 2:10:52.200 That was kind of maybe a joke joking. It's a 2:10:52.240 --> 2:10:54.040 good sense of humor meaning it was. I mean, he 2:10:54.120 --> 2:10:59.440 pulled it off. He played it straight. Rocky down boy heal. Sorry. 2:11:00.040 --> 2:11:02.200 It's fitting that we talk about a terrible game with 2:11:02.280 --> 2:11:04.240 a great special teams play in this episode. 2:11:05.480 --> 2:11:09.400 Jewels, I gotta know, Bro, I'm a die hard Raider fan. 2:11:10.680 --> 2:11:14.560 I just want you to admit on air for me, 2:11:15.040 --> 2:11:15.640 in all. 2:11:15.640 --> 2:11:22.040 Raider nations, please admit that that was a fumble. 2:11:23.240 --> 2:11:27.120 Love the content, Bro, he's talking Brady, He's. 2:11:27.000 --> 2:11:32.800 Gotta be talking about the Mac Jones, No, Kobe Myers. 2:11:33.280 --> 2:11:34.320 It has to be that right. 2:11:34.960 --> 2:11:37.720 Oh my god. The Debacle in the Desert, the annex. 2:11:37.440 --> 2:11:41.480 Section of where we go, he's he's talking about Charles Winson. 2:11:42.000 --> 2:11:47.000 Yeah, of course that was a fumble in the book, 2:11:47.720 --> 2:11:52.280 the rings already out boys, regardless of it was a fumble. 2:11:52.760 --> 2:11:54.720 What doesn't get talked enough with that game is the 2:11:54.800 --> 2:11:56.840 two field goals Terry. 2:11:57.200 --> 2:11:58.360 Oh, yeah, it was insane. 2:11:58.920 --> 2:12:02.720 Any intentional for movement of his arm starts a forward pass, 2:12:02.880 --> 2:12:05.400 even if the player loses possession of the ball as 2:12:05.480 --> 2:12:08.080 he's attempting to tug it back towards his body. It 2:12:08.160 --> 2:12:09.240 was in the rule book at the book. 2:12:09.440 --> 2:12:11.280 What else do you want? It's a bad book. 2:12:11.680 --> 2:12:13.960 But yeah, it's been changed since you can only play 2:12:14.000 --> 2:12:16.800 the rules as they play. Amen. That might have been 2:12:16.840 --> 2:12:21.640 John Gruden putting on a voice calling in still salty 2:12:21.680 --> 2:12:22.080 over that one. 2:12:22.560 --> 2:12:25.480 He's probably salty over a lot of things. Well, what 2:12:25.680 --> 2:12:29.400 an episode and thanks again to Slate. That's been another 2:12:29.480 --> 2:12:33.400 great episode of Games with Names, presented by Win Las 2:12:33.520 --> 2:12:39.520 Vegas and Encore Boston Harbor. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 2:12:40.080 --> 2:12:43.240 wherever you listen to your podcast, comment a game you 2:12:43.320 --> 2:12:48.800 want us to do and remember rate review. 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