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Speaker 2: Today we have an unbelievably special guest, tend time pro bowler,

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Speaker 2: sixteen year veteran, the greatest special teamer of all time,

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Speaker 1: This was a special teams battle. Fifteen total punts and

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Speaker 1: then the bonus. My guy was the MVP. You What

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Speaker 1: made you great was that you were so ultra competitive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was told, Yeah, a lot of guys probably

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Speaker 2: didn't like me, but you respected me. There's no doubt

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Speaker 2: after this game, would you start to field in the Steve.

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Speaker 1: Was fallowing down with the ship. That was a moo

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Speaker 2: I was one of the lifeboat workers that had to

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Speaker 1: Fully.

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Speaker 2: Games with Names is presented by Win Las Vegas and

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Speaker 2: Encore Boston Harbor and is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to Games with Names, presented by Win Las Vegas and

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Speaker 2: on Core Boston Harbor. Today's episode is Super Bowl fifty three,

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Speaker 2: the Rams versus the Patriots with Matthew Slater the captain.

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Speaker 2: We talk all funny, all funny, real funny, locker room stuff,

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Speaker 2: roommates stuff, Who hated me the most in the Patriots

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Speaker 2: locker room answer?

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Speaker 4: It was not the answer I was expected. It does

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Speaker 4: make It makes a lot of sense when you think

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Speaker 2: You gotta think about it, and our thoughts on the

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Speaker 2: end of the dynasty and which character Matthew Slater was

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Speaker 5: And then we'll.

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Speaker 2: Wrap it up by hitting the old hotline and again

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Speaker 6: February third, nineteen, Mercedes Benz Stadium, Atlanta, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Star study defense, high flying offense, the old guard versus

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Speaker 6: But this low scoring affair will come down to special teams.

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Speaker 6: This is Super Bowl fifty three.

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Speaker 1: First eight.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to games with names presented by Win Las Vegas

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Speaker 2: and Encore Boston Harbor. Today we have an unbelievably special guest.

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Speaker 2: Not just a what thirteen time team captain, ten time

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Speaker 2: pro bowler, We got a three time Super Bowl champion

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Speaker 1: Sohow fulham for sixteen, sixteen year veteran Probably not probably

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Speaker 2: Matthew Slater and even crazier my my former roommate for

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Speaker 2: three years. Matthew, welcome to games with me.

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Speaker 1: It's great to be here. Is this is awesome. We

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Speaker 2: We've come a long way.

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Speaker 1: Long way.

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Speaker 5: I gotta say welcome back to Slate. This is a

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Speaker 5: with Names an unreleased the unreleased episode.

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Speaker 1: I remember that it was our test, our test episode.

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Speaker 5: Yes, pilot, the pilot, pilot episode. It was pilot.

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Speaker 5: Now we got you doing great.

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Speaker 2: So I honestly think, if you're in your thirties and

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Speaker 1: No question. And to your point, you know, maybe maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you know, all, I love you. You

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you want to talk about that? Yeah? Can

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Speaker 2: I don't know what do you think? Is what you think?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to stand by Dola. Come show him

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Speaker 2: I mean, we see, we see Dola in the hot

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Speaker 1: Wasn't Dola with an agency? Wasn't he wasn't he with

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Speaker 2: There's a difference between being Bruce Wayne and Batman. That

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Speaker 2: But that's something that we all felt when you were

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Speaker 2: in their ten, thirteen, fourteen, fifteenth year right, you know,

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00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: So it made you bring your level up and then

437
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: you know, then you know the cycle of guys. You

438
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: become one of the the guys that was I was there,

439
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: You were there, we were there for eight seven years.

440
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: Then it becomes your turn to hold people accountable because

441
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 2: Tom couldn't always hold people accountable because if Tom got

442
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 2: on someone, he gets on a younger receiver, they're gonna

443
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 2: put their tail between their legs, right, and they're gonna

444
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: probably tank for the rest to practice. So it was

445
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: like my job to motherfuck people for Tom because if

446
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: Tom did, guys they couldn't handle it because they grew

447
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: up watching this Guys half of them weren't even born

448
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 2: when he first got in the league, you know what

449
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: I mean. So it was like one of those things where, yeah,

450
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 2: I was an asshole. Yeah, a lot of guys probably

451
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 2: didn't like me, but you respected me, no doubt, because

452
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 2: I was there before you, and I still let it

453
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: last year. I was there before you, and I was

454
00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: leaving after you.

455
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 8: And everybody need that quick question just because we've seen Jeels,

456
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 8: we've hung out with him forever.

457
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 4: We know him from one side.

458
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 8: Who didn't like him the most in the locker room,

459
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 8: because I'm sure.

460
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: There was plenty, get well, it just depended on the day.

461
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're all. You know. Him and I

462
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: were good for at least two or three blow ups

463
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: a year. Oh so where would come up?

464
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: Where did we almost fight?

465
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: We almost fought in Oakland. He was a deep returner.

466
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 1: I was a short returner. The ball gets kicked, I'm

467
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: in my hometown, nine yards deep in the end zone.

468
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: I give him the double hand stop, he brings it out.

469
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: He brings it out. Of course, he gets blown up

470
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: inside the twenty. So then I look at him and

471
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: I said, yo, I gave you the double lamp stop.

472
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: I said, if you do that again, I'm not blocking

473
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: for you. And I'm telling everybody up they're not the

474
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: block for you. Then he goes f you, you're supposed

475
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: to be the captain. That ain't no leadership, That ain't

476
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: no captain. So we're over there getting ready to fight.

477
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: Put you know, coach are pulling us apart, guys are

478
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: looking at us. So you know you asked that question.

479
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 1: Some days it might have been me, okay, other days

480
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: it might have been Tom, which I would love. By

481
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: the way, Julian was the only guy that could really

482
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: give it to Tom, right, Like you know, we all

483
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: kind of wanted to give it to Tom. Sometimes he did

484
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: some goofy. We're like, it's Tom. I can't say that

485
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: this guy will be out there getting on Tom killed

486
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: him in front of the guys and we're all like

487
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: trying to muffle our laughs. But you could tell Tom, like,

488
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: you know, he was flustered. He was flustered. So it

489
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: would just depend on the day. I mean, I'm sure

490
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: at any point in time you get asked all fifty

491
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: three guys on the ross fifty two guys and they

492
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: would say they hated right, you know, him and Gilmore

493
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: and fighting and training camp, you know, pulling a dread

494
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: out doing all this, but again pulled his dread off.

495
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 2: And I remember, it's part of the jersey, It's part

496
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: of the jersey. I pulled his dread off. I walked

497
00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: back to the locker room with.

498
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: Outrageous Right, what are we doing pulling man's dread out.

499
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: But I'll say this, if you go back and you

500
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: talk to all those guys that play with Julian, they'll

501
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: all tell you they respected them, right, They'll all tell you.

502
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: They'll all tell you he made us better and he

503
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: brought an edge store football team. So and to your point,

504
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: like we were afraid of, like letting our peers down

505
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: and being embarrassed in front of our peers. And you

506
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: know that's the difference, Like, you know, this next generation,

507
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: the way they view history and the way they view

508
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: like veterans in the league is slightly different than the

509
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: way we came up. Like you know, we revered Mike Rabel,

510
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: Teddy Bruce Ki, Rodney Harrison, Vince Wolf, Ty Warren, Richard Seymour.

511
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: I'm missing you know, dozens of guys, Troy Brown, mister Patriot.

512
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: We revered these guys and we didn't want to let

513
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: them down. We want to disappoint them, and we were

514
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: more afraid of them than Bill at times. And I

515
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: think that enabled the culture to continue to thrive and

516
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: have success because one generation to the next it was like, hey,

517
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: we're doing this for each other, and we got to

518
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: keep up holding the standard.

519
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: Some fun years, bubs, we.

520
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: Had some times. Now we had some times. We won

521
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: a lot of football games too, which made it, you know,

522
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: extremely fun.

523
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 2: You noticed that shift in the last couple of years.

524
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: It's just different, right, And I don't want to be

525
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: the old guy that pooh poo's the generation that comes

526
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: after me. It's just different. And I think, you know,

527
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: as leaders, you have to find ways to connect with

528
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: that generation a little different. You know, they're more invested

529
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: in relationship equity, emotional intelligence, and I think you have

530
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: to meet them where they are there and that's fine.

531
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: And I think coaches, right, coaches are having to evolve.

532
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: These guys want to feel like they're partners and what's

533
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: happening were for us, we would blindly take orders. We

534
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't ask questions for these guys. Maybe they need why

535
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: to what they're doing. And that's not a bad thing.

536
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just it is what it is. And

537
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: you know it's not smart of anybody to sit here

538
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: and poop pooh that generation. I think you have to

539
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: evolve and meet these guys where they are.

540
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: Well, the generation before us is poop.

541
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: They certainly were. I like that word poop poo oh.

542
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: Man, I remember this just popped over my head. I

543
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: don't remember. I remember what was it that there was

544
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: a play on the sideline opposite sideline of our special

545
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: team play and some who got who got you really mad?

546
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: Where you almost swore keep Was it a key?

547
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: I think it was a key. Was it in the

548
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: joint practice?

549
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: No, this was in a game. I remember him going,

550
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: what the freak.

551
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: Might have been a key? Might have been a key

552
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: as well. You know, I just want to accept the

553
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: ruggers straight in case of key where I love a

554
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: key competitor, you know, a Hall of Fame player in

555
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: my books. But he would come out there and he

556
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: you know, he's trying to put his hands on me

557
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: at me, pushed me out of my house late and

558
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: you know we had some battles out there. He got

559
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: me out of character. He definitely got me out of character.

560
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: Man, keep.

561
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 5: He was so fun in the locker room.

562
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: Oh he was a great teammate. He was a great teammate.

563
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: I mean, were the years wear like six change.

564
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm only calling you oon chain dog. You

565
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: only got one chain to me?

566
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 5: He got them snatched?

567
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: He got it.

568
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: No, he snatched.

569
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 5: That's right, was the reverse he snatched?

570
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: He did? He did.

571
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 4: He played for the Rems in skin he did.

572
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: He Yeah, he was here. He was old though he

573
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: was not a keep. I didn't say it. He said,

574
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: keep keep. You know you were.

575
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 2: I know you were.

576
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: You thought you still had no you still had it.

577
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: You were still smart as hell, elite thought you were

578
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: still the elite.

579
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: A keep with one hundred percent agree He ain't, he

580
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: said he He probably would say that, like, it wasn't me.

581
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: That's why he That's why we were able to do

582
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: what we did.

583
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 5: I did.

584
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: What are you getting ready to say?

585
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 4: That's why I was m v P.

586
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: That's what he would probably say. That's what he would

587
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: probably say. He probably say, I wasn't in my I

588
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: wasn't in my prime.

589
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 8: Oh man, Yeah, but he had a pick six against

590
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 8: Virginia Tech and the Orange Bowl for Kansas.

591
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: He was a Monsters great player. There's the reason why

592
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: we lost in thirteen because he heard his hamstring once.

593
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: His hamstring was only couldn't stop nobody.

594
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: He was didn't West didn't had run an illegal pick

595
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: play and West like give him a hit pointer or something.

596
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,479
Speaker 1: I think Wes hit us with a bush league, you know,

597
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: chicken wing them and.

598
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: So he's just out for the patrons.

599
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: West out for him should have been our title.

600
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: Wes can we can we talk about roommate days?

601
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: Oh, let's talk about roommate days. Those were the days.

602
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: Eggnog time, eggnog, ebony and ivory together, perfect harmony. Now,

603
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: you guys, good vocals over there. The odd couple that

604
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: show what was that in the fifties or something? That

605
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: was us? We were the odd couple. But the thing

606
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: I appreciated the most, as different as Julian than I are,

607
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: we always were able to find common ground. And that's

608
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: why it worked. And people wonder why, like how did

609
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: you guys live to the other Like, we always found

610
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: common ground and we had a blast. That was fun man.

611
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: Eggnog, eggnog, cookies cookie time. He get mad at me

612
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: because I never take out the garden.

613
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: He never took out the track. I mean, let's let's

614
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: be clear. Man never took off the trash.

615
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: I just I mean it was brutal speaking of speaking

616
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: of roommate though, Like, so, what was it in fourteen?

617
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: We just so we win the Super Bowl fourteen? Slate

618
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: about to get married, like three weeks later. A week later,

619
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: I had to go out and I had to do

620
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: a bunch of sty I didn't go back to the

621
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: house right away. I go back to the house for

622
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: the parade. Slate takes communal, TV.

623
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: Took the TV, took the dishes, clean out the whole bottom, Len,

624
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: what do you want me to do? I mean, I'm

625
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: not Look, I'm not a high flying, high paid wide receiver.

626
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm a kick cover guy. I need my TV, I

627
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: need my dishes. I need everything that I can get

628
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: my hands. At least give me like a I should

629
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: have given him the heads up. I should have give

630
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: him a curve came in.

631
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: I called the cops. I like, get we get robbed.

632
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: I should have given the super clean this out all

633
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: the way needed that stuff.

634
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 4: They were getting out of Frisbees for like months after two.

635
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: All right, man, I'm sorry, paper plate, he was paper blatant.

636
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: But you know what I think I think now, looking

637
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: back as we sit here in this plush space here,

638
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: I think my man did all right without that TV dishes, right,

639
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: I think it worked out all right. By the way,

640
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: that TV still hangs on the wall in my house,

641
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: still the TV. Yeah, that curve, you get that curve

642
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: still got it. That day I was so mad at him.

643
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: In a snowstorm. I had to go to best five,

644
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: got the best, get one a super Bowl. It's like,

645
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: give me that curve thing.

646
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: Oh man, how big is it?

647
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: Gig?

648
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: He got the big dog? Wait?

649
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 5: But Slade, how did the how did the roommate situation

650
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 5: get set up?

651
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 9: Like?

652
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 5: What's the origin of two guys in Okay?

653
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: First of all, you know, Julian and I had instant connection.

654
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: Uh two late round draft picks, two guys from California,

655
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: two kind of underdogs. So I think we all were.

656
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: People.

657
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: Don't forget you started as a come on, baby, he

658
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: started as a teamer, and you know he had to grind.

659
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: Nothing was given to my man. But anyways, we go

660
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: out there, we played two thousand and ten and then

661
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: the lockout hits. So I know my financial situation. I

662
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: gotta get out of here. I gotta give up my apartment.

663
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: So I moved back home, which I think you did too.

664
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: I was in in Pierre's basement.

665
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: You only live in Pierre War's basement, You're right. So

666
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: we both gave up our living situation. And then when

667
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: we came back it was like, hey, we just got

668
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: to make the team. Like, I'm not thinking about where

669
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm living. Teams paying for me to live at this hotel.

670
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: I'm standing there. We got to make the team. So

671
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 1: when we made the team, it was like, oh, shoot,

672
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: we made the team. We don't know where we're going

673
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: to live, so we're scrambling. And I think Ryan Wendell had.

674
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 2: Had because I was. I went and lived with him

675
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: for a.

676
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: While before in twenty ten, you lived with him, and

677
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: then Ryan Wendell had this house, so Doug King, we

678
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: jumped in. Doug King, by the way, making a killing

679
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: off people, making a killing, just raking people. Anyways, we

680
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: moved in the house.

681
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 2: Your salary went up, your rent went up.

682
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: There's no doubt. But Julian didn't let that fly though.

683
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: He took care of no. He had he had to

684
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: you know, negotiate. But anyways, Ryan, Julian and I were

685
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: there the first year. Ryan moved out and I was like, hey, man,

686
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: if you want to keep doing this, we'll keep doing this.

687
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: So for another three years, so four years total we

688
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: stayed in that house. At twenty eight paces saved our duccats.

689
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: We had a couple, we brought a couple of couple.

690
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: You know, we had Shane Vereen, We had Dela Rosa

691
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: in DeRosa. I mean, we had we had some characters

692
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: in the out there.

693
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: That was my That was my first exposure to Shane

694
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: Veren eating a Domino's pizza once a week.

695
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, once a week and then going out

696
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: there and killing it and the beauty of being young

697
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: and being able to do that. But man, that was

698
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: a fun time. Man, that really was. And uh, you know,

699
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: we grew a lot. When we moved in, he was

700
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: just Julian. By the time we left, he was you know,

701
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: jay E eleven or Julian Adelman or whatever they call

702
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: him nowadays. So you know, I saw the whole naturation process.

703
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: It was a beautiful thing.

704
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: I love that pasion, those Walls could talk.

705
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: They have a lot of tails of tail a few

706
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: other jokers. I think very well that lives in that

707
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: house before.

708
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: Bring that one.

709
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: A couple of guys lived there before us.

710
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: Speaking of teamers, who are who are some of the

711
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: teamers that impress you right now? In the league?

712
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: Oh? Man, there are there are a ton of good ones.

713
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: It is really yeah, it really has. I mean I

714
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: feel like every team has, you know, some really great players.

715
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: George Odom for the Niners, I think is as good

716
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: as I've seen over the course of my career. J T. Gray,

717
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 1: Justin Hardy, cyarn Neal and then my guy Brendan Schooler Schooler,

718
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: who I think is you know, he's got just tremendous

719
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: potential to be I think one of the great players

720
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: that this league has ever seen. I mean, he's that good.

721
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: He's long, like he's six two, he's long, and he's strong,

722
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: and then he's like legit fast, like he'll touch twenty

723
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 1: two mill an hour. So like, this kid's got all

724
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: the tools. Who is the other guy that used to

725
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 1: our white boy Corey or no? Who what do you play?

726
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 2: Cody?

727
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: Oh?

728
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: Cody D Cody D Cody D Cody d is as.

729
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 5: Uh, he was too he could.

730
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he looked he made he hit twenty two

731
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: mile an hour and he looked like he's jogging, and

732
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: you're like, man, this guy can roll. But I mean,

733
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: there's so many guys that I didn't name, But I

734
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: think the league is in a really great place where

735
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: you go through the roster of almost every team and

736
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 1: I can point out one or two guys that really

737
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: jump out on tape and really have bought into the

738
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: idea of playing in the kicking game at a high level.

739
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 2: Uh.

740
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: You know, I have a ton of respect for these

741
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: guys nowadays, they're they're taking the bar to you know,

742
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: another level.

743
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 2: What's the orgin story of the field goal block in Miami?

744
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: Man, Well, you know how it is when you sit

745
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: in the room with Joe Judge, right, you can take

746
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: twenty minutes and you're on a tangent and like, hey,

747
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: we should do this, and last night we were talking

748
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: about this. So we get in there and you know,

749
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: these guys are like, hey, we got a tail on

750
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: on their operation and it's it's pretty good. It's it's

751
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: pretty much one hundred percent. And I won't just close

752
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: that in case they want to go back Bailey, but

753
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: uh but uh, you know that we had a pretty

754
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: good beat on it, and there's really one guy on

755
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: the team that we trusted to do that, like that

756
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: has the ability, has the length, who can ben who

757
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: has the quickness and get off? And that was School,

758
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: and you know, we're practicing it during the week and

759
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of them the timing was like, ah,

760
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: that ain't it. That ain't looking good. But one of

761
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: our assistants, Joe Houston, he finally got the timing and

762
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: the steps with School. So when we got in the

763
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: game and we needed to play, it was like, all right,

764
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna call it. And I just knew. I said,

765
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: if he can get the corner, uh, untouched or at

766
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: least minimal contact, he's gonna block it. And he did

767
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: a great job of just bend in that corner, you know,

768
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: timing it up and just you know, again he's the

769
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: kids six too, he's long and and I saw it

770
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: in in my pariff. I saw it. I said, before

771
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: he blocked. I said, oh, he's gonna because he got

772
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: through there untouched. And you know, huge play, huge, huge play,

773
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: huge play.

774
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the biggest misconception of teamers.

775
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think a lot of people think

776
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: that playing special teams is going out there, you're not

777
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: thinking very much, You're just running and it's chaotic. But

778
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: the reality is there's a lot of communication that occurs

779
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: on the field. There's a lot of thinking on your feet,

780
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: you know, a lot that changes in the middle of plays.

781
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: And you know, you got the best athletes on the field,

782
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: the fastest, some of the strongest, biggest guys out there playing.

783
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: So you know, I think people under sell what it

784
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: takes to play in the King game. You know, I

785
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 1: hear all the time, Well, this guy's big and fast,

786
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: he can play special teams, Well not necessarily. Can he

787
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: think on his feet? Is he tough mentally and physically?

788
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: And is he going to compete at a high level

789
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: like you got to compete every snap because every snap

790
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: can be the difference between winning and losing. So, you know,

791
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: I think we get a bad rap sometimes. But those

792
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: guys that I mentioned right now that are doing it

793
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: at high levels across the league, I think are changing that.

794
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 2: So mount rushmore special teamers.

795
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: And I mean it's tough, right, I mean it's tough,

796
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna make any kind of Mountain Rushmore,

797
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: you got to start with Steve Tasker. I mean, he's

798
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: the godfather. He started us off. He really took it

799
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: and elevated it to where it is today. I like

800
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: Bill Bates, who played with Dallas for fifteen years and

801
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: really was, you know, an all out guy. There's another

802
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: guy named Elbert Shelby I think it was saying his

803
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 1: name right, who played in Atlanta, who was a great gunner,

804
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: went to four Pro Bowls. So you know, let's give

805
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: him and Baits half ahead on that Mount Rushmore. And

806
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: then I go current guys. I go guys that you know,

807
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: maybe from our generation. Lorenzo Alexander is the guy that

808
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: I love, just physical presence, relentingle, this relentless effort in

809
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: the way that he played. And then Michael Thomas, who

810
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: was one of our contemporaries. He was in Cincinnati last year. Really,

811
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 1: you know, you look at the last decade and a half,

812
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: you know, depending on who you asked, the top to,

813
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 1: one of the top two guys in the league last

814
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: you know, ten to fifteen years. So uh, that's why

815
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: Mount rush I'm leaving off a ton of guys. I

816
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: hate doing Mount rushmorees because you always leave off very like, yeah,

817
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: I can't put myself on that. I you know, I

818
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: tried to do my giant yes, so yeah, but yeah,

819
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: there's a lot of great players out there that I

820
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: have respect for.

821
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore.

822
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: Of R two's Julian Edelman definitely top R two in

823
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: the league. You know, I don't. I don't think people

824
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: appreciate how good you were in the kicking game and

825
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: not just returning the ball covering. Didn't I send you

826
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: a clip of you covering now this year?

827
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 2: No, but I still remember when you were off sides

828
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: in my.

829
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: Time, I always got to bring that out. I was

830
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: off side, he had a tackle inside the vibe, I

831
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: was all kick off.

832
00:42:58,760 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 2: That's that's very rare.

833
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's when we were young and spry. The body

834
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: could move. It was a good time.

835
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 2: Had the block PP had block. Larry Izzo, l Larry honorable.

836
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: No doubt, honorable mention Mount Rushmore, no doubt. I mean, look,

837
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 1: without Larry Izzo, I never would have had a job

838
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 1: in New England. You know, guys like that, and you

839
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: know we always talk about like the skill guys and

840
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: and special teams like the gunners and the PPS. But

841
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: I think guys like Nick Bloor that are out there

842
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 1: right now and othery're like, uh, you know a Miles Kilbrew,

843
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: the size guys Reeves Mavin and Detroit who made the

844
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, Like, you gotta give those size guys some

845
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: love too, because you know there's a big man moving

846
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: down the field. Well, he was technically a size guy.

847
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: Larry was listed as as two twenty. He probably was

848
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: two o five. Larry were gonna, we're gonna call your

849
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: gonna call you size guy. But those were fun times. Man.

850
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: Now, your dad being Jackie Slater greatest right tackle of

851
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: all time Hall of Famer, how often did you talk

852
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: to your dad during the season, you know, yeah, about

853
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 2: football or did you how often? Was that a lot?

854
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: A lot honestly?

855
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: And you know, I think when him and I would talk,

856
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: it would be more, you know, how you feel in physically,

857
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: where you at mentally, you know, kind of state of

858
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: the team. We never really talked too much about how

859
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: I was playing. He'd ask me about plays and certain

860
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: things like that. But the first thing every game i'd

861
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: call him on the way home, the first thing that

862
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: he would say, you know, I thought the old line

863
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: did this I saw this. He watched our line with

864
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: an eagle eye for sixteen years. I mean he could

865
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 1: tell you, you know, in the third quarter it was third

866
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: and five, this happened with Marcus Cannon or Sebastian Volmer

867
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: did this. Like he just loves interior play. I mean,

868
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: that's that's who he is. He'll he'll tell you a

869
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: good big man's always he's better than a good little man.

870
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: And he just loves that that part of the game.

871
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: So we always connected on that. We were always talking

872
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: about our line and the way that you know, they

873
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: were playing throughout the season. You know, we enjoyed those conversations.

874
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 2: How old were you when your dad retired?

875
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: So I was in fifth grade, so I was about

876
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: ten eleven years old when my dad retired. We moved

877
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: to Saint Louis for his last year. My mom did

878
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 1: not want to go. She was like, can you just retire,

879
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: And he's like, I gotta get twenty, I gotta I

880
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: gotta go try to get twenty. So we moved to

881
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: Saint Louis. We were there for eight months and he played.

882
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: He played in one game. He was on pep. He

883
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: had a ruptured his tricep and he retort and rehab,

884
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: and they were like, hey, we just get you out

885
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: there for one game, gets you that twenty of the

886
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: years they mummied his arm up. He got out there

887
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: and you know we were in and out of Saint

888
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: Louis pretty quick.

889
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: So how was it, you know, being did you go

890
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: to all the practices and had to be pretty cool.

891
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: It was a crazy experience for me as a young person,

892
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: like growing up around the game. And you know, the

893
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: love that I have for the game came from my dad,

894
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: but you know, just to be in the locker room,

895
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: to be at the practice facility, to see him training,

896
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: to have his teammates come up and you know start

897
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: talking to me. You know, Isaac Bruce was a guy

898
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: that I really loved. He played with my dad towards

899
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: the end of my dad's career, but even after my

900
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: dad retired, I'd go back and watch him and Tory

901
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: running routes and oh man, it was just such a

902
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,959
Speaker 1: neat experience to grow up around the game.

903
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: So you know, I remember I got to know Jack.

904
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: He's calling Big black Jack.

905
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 5: Yes, I never do his face.

906
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: No, no, just to me. We would laugh about that.

907
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: We would laugh about that and I'd be like and

908
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: one time we had our eggnog time and I was

909
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: on IR and Slate went up to sleep, you know

910
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 2: me and old Jack sat back down. He saw, you know,

911
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 2: we saw that crown you know on IRE. I was like, yo, missus,

912
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 2: slay you want. He took a little little crown. We

913
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: sit in there after about two to three drinks. I

914
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: got Jackie in there showing me his past sets against LT.

915
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 2: He's over your I used to give this LT. It

916
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 2: was the coolest experience.

917
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: Oh man.

918
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: I remember that because my dad loved the Rams growing up,

919
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: so he always talked and my dad always talked about,

920
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: you know, getting to hang out with your dad at

921
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: the Super Bowls. It was always so fun.

922
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: It was special for our families. It really was.

923
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: All right, let's go back to around February third, two

924
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: thousand nineteen. This is a segment we do where we

925
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: go through all the pop culture and just kind of

926
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 2: see what was going on at this time. Number one

927
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: movie Glass. Do you see that?

928
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: I didn't see Glass, It's like the Jackie.

929
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: What was that?

930
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 5: That was m Night Shyamalan. It was the crossover sequel

931
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 5: to Unbreakable and Split, so it had Samuel Jackson, Bruce Willis,

932
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 5: James McAvoy. It was kind of like the culmination of

933
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 5: those two.

934
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go watch that one. Glass.

935
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 5: It was all right if you like the m Night

936
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 5: Stamlon thing.

937
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: I like him.

938
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 5: Budget of twenty million made two hundred and forty seven million.

939
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 5: Oh there we go, pretty solid, Roy, Roy, we're box

940
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 5: office guys.

941
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: Here, box off the guys. Number one song seven Rings

942
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: by Ariana Grande.

943
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: Do you remember this one?

944
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 5: This was sort of the sing song you one that

945
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 5: sounded like rain drops on Rose. You know that one? Yeah,

946
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 5: I want it, I got it. I like it about

947
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 5: it that one.

948
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, seven.

949
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: Rings we like it around over here.

950
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 5: Seven rings.

951
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a nice We got to get any

952
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: block on the show right ALONGO.

953
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark scores sixteen high school.

954
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 1: She's killing it, still doing it. She's awesome.

955
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: She's doing it back then, she's doing it now. This

956
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: is just the start.

957
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 5: Incredible. Pulled a little stat on Kaitlyn Clark here on

958
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 5: threes in IL value rankings. Crazy that that's the thing

959
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 5: now in college sports. Fourth highest valued college athlete three

960
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 5: point one million, they say this year three wow.

961
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: Man we'll go back as well. Undeclared for that draft.

962
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 2: You making more.

963
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: I mean, she's not gonna make that w n B

964
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 1: A salary right now, she'd make an endorsement endorse on salary.

965
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 2: She El Choppa was found guilty in all counts. L Choppo,

966
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: we may we may have met one of his tigers.

967
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna go back to the next line. Operation Varsity

968
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: Blues Hits March Winging say nothing about brother Choppo, Operation

969
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: Varsity Blues Hits USC.

970
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 5: What I mean, you're doing all that just to go

971
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 5: to USC? All now, man, all that to go to USC,

972
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 5: to go to USC.

973
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 2: You don't know what this was. This is when Aunt

974
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 2: Becky did the rowing thing.

975
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean USC's not even I mean it's

976
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: not even a good school. You're doing all that to

977
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: go to US. I mean, at least if you're going

978
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: to u c l A. With that, it felt like, Okay,

979
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: you're trying to get into the number one public school

980
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: you versity in the country. I just want to number one.

981
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: We passed Berkeley. Put all those bears out there, Dela

982
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: ross is passed Bear Well, I mean that's what they

983
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: like to say. But you know it's it's one thing

984
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: when the baby comes up and rises and grows bigger

985
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: than the original, and it's better. It's like two point zero. We're,

986
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, superior.

987
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 5: Obviously in the sports world U c l A talk.

988
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,959
Speaker 5: Who is there one guy that linebacker Bruce.

989
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: Bruce Davis BD. My god, whenever there was a u

990
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: c l A guy, sleepy, be all happy.

991
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 1: I love I love all my.

992
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 5: C l A know, you know I love Bill Walton.

993
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 5: Have you ever met Bill Walton?

994
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: I've never met Bill, huge fan.

995
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 5: Though he's my second favorite huge fan.

996
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:49,479
Speaker 2: Who's your first? Jack?

997
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: All right? Jack?

998
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 2: Jackie Patrick Mahomes m v P. This year we won

999
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 2: the ball college football champion Clemson Heisman Trophy winner Kyler Murray.

1000
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 2: That was Trevor Lawrence Clemson. What's going on?

1001
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: My god?

1002
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 2: He needs to have a year this year. I know,

1003
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 2: big year for him.

1004
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: Big year, got Mac Jones now mc jones putting that

1005
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: pressure on him.

1006
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 2: Now that Mac Daddy. He's back in his home environment, right,

1007
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 2: I'm slinging that pill. You know, he's getting some vitamin D.

1008
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: So the depression is probably down.

1009
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 5: Back in his old child modeling days.

1010
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,919
Speaker 2: NBA streaks Russell Westbrook eleven straight triple doubles that'll probably

1011
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 2: never go crazy.

1012
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought he.

1013
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: Went to No, he didn't go there. He was there

1014
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: with me four time.

1015
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: You guys, he don't.

1016
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: He doesn't know me from Adam's house cat.

1017
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 5: But shout out Trussell, he should get to know you.

1018
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: James Harden streak of thirty plus point games ends at

1019
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: thirty two games.

1020
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 5: That's the record.

1021
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: Yep, crazy, that's crazy.

1022
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 2: Joker gets buckets, he sure does. Notable NFL retirements Reeves,

1023
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 2: Joe Thomas, Jason Witt, James Harrison, Dwight Freeny.

1024
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 5: It's a list right in right before the season, is it?

1025
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 2: Is it?

1026
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 8: This is there last year, so ReBs is and Thomas's

1027
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 8: I think Fredie's into No.

1028
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: James Harrison, I mean it was two time defensive part

1029
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: of the year right still one scari I was just

1030
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: gonna say, like, like, can.

1031
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 2: State a lump I was.

1032
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 1: When he was on the team. I was still afraid

1033
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 1: of the guy and think I was like that Joker

1034
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: is intimidating. Now I loved him, Oh my gosh.

1035
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: He would come in there this deebo shirt, Deebo.

1036
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 5: I would pay to see him in the weight room.

1037
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: I mean The guy is an animal.

1038
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: He lived in the weight room. I mean yeah, he

1039
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: wear like old sweatsuits that were like super baggy old. Remember.

1040
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very deceiving because you can't tell how big.

1041
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 2: You could see because he was only five. He's probably

1042
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 2: about five eleven and he was he was too sick.

1043
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1062
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Speaker 5: See all right, Let's start off with the La Rams

1063
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 5: here thirteen and three, second best record in franchise history,

1064
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 5: bested only by that one team Greatest Sean Turf. We

1065
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 5: know how that season ended, another loss to the Patriots.

1066
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 5: A bunch of guys on this team, Jared Goff, Young,

1067
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 5: Jared Golf, Todd Gurley, Aaron Donald.

1068
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,479
Speaker 2: Corey little Is Gurly and this was Gurly.

1069
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: Gurley was already part of the year, wasn't he?

1070
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 6: Was he?

1071
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 5: I believe so Keith to leave brought him in prior

1072
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 5: to the season. You know, he's a Wade Phillips guy.

1073
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 5: Andrew Whitworth was in his about one hundred season here

1074
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 5: at Worth still ball, Marcus Peters and Dominicans who they

1075
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 5: brought in there. Brandon Cooks, former Patriot prior to the

1076
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 5: season as well, Greg the leg zer line. Cooper Cup

1077
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 5: was hurt, hurt for this one towards a cl in

1078
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 5: November missed the rest of the season. Johnny Hecker, Johnny Johnny,

1079
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like.

1080
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: It's all Johnny's an all time great now he was

1081
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: a bill love.

1082
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 5: Johnny Hecker didn't.

1083
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: Johnny Hecker was an all time punter.

1084
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: Who is who were the brother him or who are

1085
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: the brothers? Oh cole Quits?

1086
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, when you were next to the cole Quits.

1087
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 2: Or Johnny Hecker, when you when you would be in

1088
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: warm ups and you'd be next to us punting, it

1089
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 2: sounded like a cannon going off. Those guys had such big,

1090
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 2: like crazy legs.

1091
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: And Johnny's a big old dude too, like six four

1092
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:45,919
Speaker 1: six five.

1093
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 4: Wait, why would you be next to him?

1094
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: Like?

1095
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 4: Is that how they think?

1096
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 2: Walk by him? I'd always just like I am down

1097
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 2: until my man trying to mind and never never look

1098
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: at him, never look at him. Just I'd always look

1099
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: get their punt and just shake my head.

1100
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 8: Now would other like returners actually like talk to those guys.

1101
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 8: They have the special team or bond right now.

1102
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: The special like the snappers, punters, kickers, they have their

1103
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: own like they're in the world. They're in their own

1104
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 1: like brotherhood, which I respect. I like how they I

1105
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: like how they operate.

1106
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 2: They do back if we could try to come talk

1107
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 2: to me. I never talked to him. Oh you know,

1108
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 2: you try to butter you up. You know there's guys

1109
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: that was trying to butter you up. He was trying

1110
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 2: to but oh wait, I get out of here, dude.

1111
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:33,439
Speaker 2: Oh never like any now, Oh this dude's killing should

1112
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 2: have been taking that butter. I wouldn't because that suckers

1113
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: doing right now.

1114
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 5: But I think, uh this yeah slate, Uh Girley was

1115
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 5: Offensive Player of the Year of the year before this,

1116
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 5: so okay, this team started eight.

1117
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 10: No.

1118
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 5: Also, I had notable wins. That crazy Monday night game

1119
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 5: over the Chiefs. Remember that one the shootout, Yeah, call

1120
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 5: it like fifty fifty four fifty one wild. That was

1121
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 5: a big game for him. That year, Aaron Donald led

1122
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 5: the league in sacks and a half.

1123
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: I mean, by the way, I just like to go

1124
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 1: on record and saying in my book, he's top three

1125
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: defensive player all time. And on that list is LT.

1126
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: Reggie White and Aaron Who's.

1127
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 2: The fourth, Who's the Who's the mount Rushmore?

1128
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 5: But those all big guys.

1129
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: You know, I give you you almost gotta you almost

1130
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: got to make a separate list, right, But those three

1131
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: guys changed the way the game is played and looked at.

1132
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: I mean LT is LT. I mean his name will

1133
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: be as long as we're talking about football, we'll be

1134
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: talking about LT.

1135
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 2: Can you remember any LT stories from Bill?

1136
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: I don't know that I want to repeat those. This

1137
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: guy loved, he loves LT. He love and rightfully so,

1138
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: rightfully so. And then Reggie is like, if you ask

1139
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: my dad, Reggie is the best because he had to

1140
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: go battle against them. But to be you know, six five,

1141
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: three hundred pounds and move like that and be that,

1142
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that we've seen a player

1143
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: with that physical makeup. And then this joker now.

1144
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 2: Here is he got that?

1145
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett has it, But I mean Miles Garrett don't

1146
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: have that hump move like my man had that hump

1147
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: Like he's throwing three hundred pounders out the club and

1148
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: one arm, you know. And and this joker here, the

1149
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: ceren Donal. Now, I'll tell you what.

1150
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 2: Which we'll get into it to the game which makes

1151
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 2: it this This game was so impressive with how our

1152
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: offensive line handled him. Oh my god, shout out Joe Toney,

1153
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: Joe Toney had one stoned him twice on the driver.

1154
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: We needed best guard, best guarden football.

1155
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 5: Mister Slaterer would have been proud, no doubt.

1156
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, how about Joe Tuney's career, best guarden football

1157
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: right now? And how many super Bowl does this guy won?

1158
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: He's gonna yet?

1159
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: Five?

1160
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 9: Yet?

1161
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: Five? He got five, He's got all of them with

1162
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: This was his last year with us, but he didn't

1163
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: win the fourteen one.

1164
00:58:58,480 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 5: He's got four, he's got four.

1165
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 2: He's got far.

1166
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, right now, this guy's this guy's about to win.

1167
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: This guy's.

1168
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 2: He's a stud.

1169
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: He is great.

1170
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 5: A little more on this Rams team. Some notable coaches

1171
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 5: we talked about. Wade Phillips, D C. McVeigh was the

1172
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 5: de facto OC another Patriots got. They had Jed Fish

1173
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 5: on this staff. Jack Taylor, current Bengals coach, was a

1174
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 5: quarterbacks coach on this one. John Fossil's Boom Games coach,

1175
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 5: shut up booms and it was it was only mcvey's

1176
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,919
Speaker 5: second season as the head coach. Was like three three yeah,

1177
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,439
Speaker 5: full boy genius, like with Jules and I were watching

1178
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 5: on the patio that two days ago, the NFL films version,

1179
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 5: and like he was full on like starstruck by Bill.

1180
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 5: Before the game, it really felt like it didn't it.

1181
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 2: So we were watching just to research this, and we

1182
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: were watching the NFL films on why the Patriots won.

1183
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 2: I mean, you would never have thought today that Bill

1184
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 2: Belichick is is Bill Belichick? After watching that, this is

1185
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 2: this guy's the best. He says, like the greatest coach.

1186
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 5: Of all time.

1187
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 2: Now Raheem Morris is getting a job that media media

1188
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 2: turns on you. He told us that, remember that quick.

1189
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 2: He told us that there's gonna be a nay immedia.

1190
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: Turns on me. Hey, they have turn Now those joking

1191
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: to me. The people in media control the narrative and

1192
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: the conversation and what happens in our league way more

1193
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: than they should, way more than they should. I'm convinced

1194
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: of that. That's a different pod though.

1195
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 8: That's the do we fight against that and we like

1196
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 8: to celebrate awesome players in awesome games.

1197
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 4: No narrative bullshit.

1198
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's why I'm sitting here on this pod.

1199
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: I respect the host and the host people.

1200
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 2: Let's go to the New England Patriots. Set the stage,

1201
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 2: where's Jackie?

1202
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 6: There?

1203
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 5: We go eleven and five New England Patriots. A lot

1204
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 5: of dudes on this.

1205
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 2: Team fort not our best team.

1206
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 5: It was interesting with with some of the the sort

1207
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 5: of back to back there were two two game losing streaks,

1208
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 5: which is very uncharacteristic in one season.

1209
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 2: For the lost in December, I think.

1210
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was that loss to the Steelers in December,

1211
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:13,439
Speaker 5: and then previous week was the miracle in Miami, which

1212
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 5: we we know we shall not speak of Dola Bolden.

1213
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: Goshlden had two long tugs. Oh my god.

1214
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 5: And then earlier he's still.

1215
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 2: Fast, looks good God they said, is he was gone

1216
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen years.

1217
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: Ago and guy has been overcoming the odds so whole time.

1218
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 5: And then uh, Week two and three were lost at

1219
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 5: Jacksonville and then a lost to Maddy p that Monday

1220
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 5: night game in Detroit. So those were two double digit

1221
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 5: back to back losses, which was very uncharacteristic of a

1222
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 5: Patriots team.

1223
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and the Titans.

1224
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 5: And then in the middle of the season, yeah week

1225
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 5: ten years oh there that Titans lost by twenty four

1226
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 5: overcame overcame and found our our rhythm. Eighth straight AFC

1227
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 5: East I or a trade AFC Championship appearing. Sorry, this

1228
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 5: was coming off a season where lost to the Chris

1229
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 5: Long led Eagles. Unfortunately, some notable rookies on this team,

1230
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 5: Isaiah win Sony Michelle, who was huge down the Strea

1231
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 5: Big Four, lost Cooks and Dola in the off season,

1232
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 5: which which was a bummer. Jewels started the season suspended

1233
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 5: bummer on vacation. Slate re signed prior to this season,

1234
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 5: which we love. Two year deal.

1235
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: Almost left where Pittsburgh really to Pittsburgh. Huh yeah, they were,

1236
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: you know, they're trying to harball me negotiations. Oh, they

1237
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: almost had to get out. I almost had to pull

1238
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: emergency shoot get out Steel City Digress. I don't mean

1239
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 1: to cut you off there, Jack.

1240
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, man, I love that. I was always curious.

1241
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: I get the call in the airport. Yeah, needless sad.

1242
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, Look, we don't need agents here, like like Slate,

1243
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 2: you're just gonna tell him. He's gonna tell Nick. Why

1244
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 2: don't we just get this thing done exactly how I go,

1245
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 2: exactly exactly how the coach. I just want my agent

1246
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 2: to handle it.

1247
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: Look, Coach, I don't understand the numbers. Yeah, I don't know.

1248
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: I just don't understand. Knowing full well, I know all

1249
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: the numbers every coach. I don't know the numbers. I

1250
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,439
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know it's getting paid.

1251
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 5: What Hey. Thankfully Slate came back. Lost, Dola lost, Soldier lost,

1252
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 5: Butler lost, Dion Lewis all the free agency, lost a

1253
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 5: lot of guys. But we had CP we had Slate,

1254
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 5: we had Devlin was two huge this year. High Tower

1255
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 5: was huge this year. Kyle van Noy was a beast

1256
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 5: this year. Patrick chungk had both the mccordions and Coties

1257
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 5: needed him, needed.

1258
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: Needed both of them.

1259
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 2: And then this was the play of the game, no doubt.

1260
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 5: This was the year we almost lost kind of did

1261
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 5: for like a day. Uh McDaniels to Indy. Oh remember

1262
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 5: that famous story you're day in the bathroom or whatever

1263
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 5: in the bathroom for an hour or wasn't that the

1264
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 5: story I got about that? Yeah, he came back.

1265
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 2: That was next year or that was last year.

1266
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1267
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 5: So prior to this season, I was at that Super Bowl.

1268
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 2: I was trying. I was trying to sit in that

1269
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 2: box with guys. That's your guy, fun intended, that is

1270
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 2: your guy though is Yeah, guys like, oh I got

1271
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 2: an extra ticket, I'm sitting in the colts box. I'm like,

1272
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 2: all right, I get in there. I'm you know, eating

1273
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 2: some French onion dip, enjoying the pregame festivities. Get a

1274
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 2: tap on my shoulder, sir, you can't sit in this box.

1275
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: Booted me.

1276
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 5: Got a lot of nerves. Wow, I actually.

1277
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: Respected it because you probably would have done the same

1278
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: thing if you were him. Nah, you to let Cooper

1279
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: cup comes sit in your box.

1280
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like Coop. I interviewed him for the Fox

1281
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 5: this year.

1282
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:54,959
Speaker 1: Baby, let's Coop. We used to a good dude.

1283
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 5: He is, he's training together, man, And before we get

1284
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 5: into this game, gotta give a little shine to the

1285
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 5: rest of the coaching staff. This was an all time

1286
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 5: star studied Pat's coaching staff Joe Judge, Scar Ivan fears

1287
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 5: Chaddy O'Shea who he talked about earlier, Nick Kayley, b

1288
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 5: Flow Ziegler, and uh DeMarcus Covington who's now the d C.

1289
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 5: Had a lot of a lot of dudes, a lot

1290
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 5: of good brain trust guys in there.

1291
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: By the way, one guy you cannot leave off that

1292
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: coaching staff Brendan Daily, who by the way, has won

1293
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: six Super bowls NOWT won with US Kansas City. Insane

1294
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: BD choking mine end up with ten of those bad boys.

1295
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 2: I remember he came from Kansas City.

1296
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: Right there was something like to Minnesota to hear it.

1297
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 2: Was boys with Chad Yes because they were always close. Yes,

1298
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 2: And then went to k went back to Kansas City.

1299
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: All he does is win.

1300
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, he was. He's had quite the coaching career.

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01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 5: Vikings Rams Vikings Patriots in now Kansas.

1302
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 2: City Vikings Rams Vikings.

1303
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 8: Also Ryan Allen, Joe Cardona, and Steven Gotkowska on this.

1304
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 4: Team as well.

1305
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,439
Speaker 1: Ryan Allen game of his life. Shout out Ryan Allen.

1306
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: Cut his tail off.

1307
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 8: Then we drafted another punter, Jewels Often like tells a

1308
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 8: story about winning is fun coming off the Eagles.

1309
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 4: You have your perspective on that whole like winning.

1310
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: His fun, but on the whiteboard, yeah, I mean, look,

1311
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: I'm in agreement with Julian on this. Like clearly winning

1312
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: is fun for a long time and it continues to

1313
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: be the case. People were taking shots at what we

1314
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: had going on over here, like you know, they don't

1315
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 1: do this, they don't do that. That's not fun. This

1316
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: is not fun. Like, first of all, fun is not

1317
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: the top priority grown man. If I want to have fun,

1318
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: I'll take my kids to Disneyland. But what is fun

1319
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: is winning football. What is not fun? It's going forward

1320
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 1: to thirteen so I can tell you winning football games,

1321
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: there's nothing like it. And to be able to do

1322
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,919
Speaker 1: that with people that you care about, to be able

1323
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: to build relationships, to be able to you know, do

1324
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: all those things, and to put winning on top is

1325
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: like the cherry. I mean, there's nothing better than winning

1326
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: this league.

1327
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 2: But you remember I had to go away for my

1328
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 2: vacation right when I left because of all the talks

1329
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 2: I put on the whiteboard.

1330
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: Winning is fun, winning is fun, which stayed up there

1331
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: for long, all that season, all that season, and may

1332
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: have even carried over afterwards, but stayed there. No truer

1333
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: words have ever been spoken.

1334
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 8: If you win and become MVP, you also get to

1335
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 8: go to Disneyland.

1336
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: Correct, And you get to host podcasts, and you get

1337
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: to live in just sick cribs.

1338
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 2: So you know you should see slates newly built crib

1339
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 2: over and where's it?

1340
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: Then it's okay, It's.

1341
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 2: It's not like yeah right, Jack, Let's get the game

1342
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 2: lead up, all right, the lead.

1343
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 5: Up to this game. We're talking title games here. These

1344
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 5: are two memorable ones the NFC title. The Rams went

1345
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 5: down then Orleans and beat them on that controversial no

1346
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 5: pass interference call him.

1347
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 1: Brutal, just little brutal.

1348
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 4: The worst in that call was then the challenging p

1349
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 4: I the year after.

1350
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it was like a defensive receiver

1351
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 2: hit too.

1352
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 5: It was wild.

1353
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 9: It was.

1354
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 5: P I either one of them, which is crazy, bad, insane.

1355
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 5: And then we can't forget.

1356
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: You know, somebody's gotta fire one of them refs. Now,

1357
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: I gotta start docking these jokers with their miss calls

1358
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: like that. And I can say that because I'm no

1359
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: longer an employee of the NFL. The referee. We gotta go,

1360
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,600
Speaker 1: come on, fellas, Yeah, we gotta do better than what

1361
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: we're doing.

1362
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's there are a group of referees

1363
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 2: that you like. Yeah, but there are a group of guys,

1364
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about, love that love that

1365
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 2: little authority, love that authority.

1366
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: They did.

1367
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 2: They kind of try to got no back. Looking like

1368
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 2: a principal out there. You can't act like a principal.

1369
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,560
Speaker 2: You gotta have a relationship with the guys. It's in

1370
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 2: fire environment.

1371
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: You gotta have relationship with gotta have relationship, and a

1372
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: lot of you guys they like to sun us like,

1373
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, like we're little kids and stuff.

1374
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: So I don't like I'm making twelve million dollars this year.

1375
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: Get the I never made no twelve million dollars. But

1376
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 1: I do know all this. If I'm thirty eight years

1377
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 1: old out there, I don't need you sonning me. I

1378
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: don't need like I'm a grown man. Okay. And then

1379
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: I also want to specifically call out the crew that

1380
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: Reugh freed our game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in

1381
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: two thousand and what year was that twenty one for

1382
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: calling me for a runn out of bounds when I

1383
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 1: forced the phone when we lost the game of Tampa

1384
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 1: Bay Bucks. Whoever was on that crew, that was an

1385
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 1: atrocious call, one of the worst calls I've seen in

1386
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: my career. You you played a large role and calltion

1387
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 1: us that football game, and shame on you for that.

1388
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 2: And this is a man of integrity that doesn't do that.

1389
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: I don't know how we got on that, but Theugh ring.

1390
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: I got a big time issue with the ref ring.

1391
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,600
Speaker 8: You know, I've heard like an internet like idea to

1392
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 8: have Reugh press conferences after the game.

1393
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 4: Hold account hold accountability.

1394
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: So we need more is a society, we need more

1395
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 1: account of Bill.

1396
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 5: That was a Bill Vinovich crew led uh crew that

1397
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 5: day in fox Borough?

1398
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 6: Was it? That was?

1399
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 2: But come on, Bill brother, the signs just like Harry,

1400
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 2: Oh God.

1401
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: Was that this year?

1402
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 9: No?

1403
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: Wait, ye, this is the year you lost.

1404
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 4: To the Titans. This is the next year.

1405
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was bad. That was which And then they

1406
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:36,440
Speaker 1: said he stepped out of mounts.

1407
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 2: Oh he didn't.

1408
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: And before that there was like we lost that. That

1409
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: was like I've always wanted the blast. It feels good.

1410
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 1: It feels good to have the platform to do so

1411
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: let it spray.

1412
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 5: I love it. Back back to the lead up of

1413
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 5: this one, can't forget what the Patriots did in their

1414
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 5: AFC title game going into Arrowhead, winning that thing thirty

1415
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 5: seven thirty one in overtime.

1416
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 2: Favorite, no doubt, favorite win of my career, scoring reel

1417
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 2: unsuper unreal.

1418
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,600
Speaker 1: Now, my man had a very controversial play in that

1419
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: game on a punt. He didn't touch it, but he

1420
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: attempted to fill a punt off the top, and because

1421
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,560
Speaker 1: my man can't strap his gloves off the strap of

1422
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 1: his glove almost touched the wall. I don't know if

1423
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 1: you guys remember that. I remember, but we watched that

1424
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: play several times this year. You know, they had the

1425
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: Bears TV running and I remember going to him and I,

1426
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 1: did you touch it? Did you touch the ball?

1427
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 9: No?

1428
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 1: I didn't even touch it. I didn't haven't. I didn't

1429
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 1: try to touch it. And then I look up at

1430
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: the thing. Yes, you tried to touch it. You tried

1431
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: to fill the ball. Scoop that puppy. Make a play,

1432
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: play it on the first bounds. Doesn't matter. We won

1433
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: the game.

1434
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 2: We threw a pick the very next play.

1435
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 5: Is that.

1436
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: A ball doesn't lie. Situation didn't touch it. Might be

1437
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:59,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. We won the game, doesn't matter. You

1438
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 1: were envy at the last game of the season. That's

1439
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 1: all that matters.

1440
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 7: And uh.

1441
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 5: Also, leading up to this game we mentioned earlier no

1442
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 5: Cooper Cup. This was also expected. Everybody was saying shootout, shootout.

1443
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 5: Great offense is great offense. Two good defenses, but awesome

1444
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 5: offenses like over under was set at fifty six points,

1445
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 5: didn't even come close. And there was also the age

1446
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 5: disparity conversation. You got Bill sixty six at the time

1447
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 5: of this game, McVeigh thirty three, Brady forty one, Golf

1448
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 5: forty four. So everyone, that's why making the young Bucks

1449
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 5: versus the old guard type type argument here.

1450
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 2: Keep it going.

1451
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 5: Jackie should get into the game a little bit here into.

1452
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 8: The game, all right, before we get into like what

1453
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 8: was was there any skotting report things to take a

1454
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 8: stop Aaron Donald stop?

1455
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,679
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, get a body on ninety nine.

1456
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 2: Stop Aaron Donald. Beat man coverage on third and short.

1457
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 2: That's why we dialed up the Beaver, which was like

1458
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 2: a longer pass play on a third and short, because

1459
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 2: we knew Wade Phillips knew what he was going to do.

1460
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 2: He's a very man coverage type play caller. And then

1461
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 2: they started trying to give a zone and then that's

1462
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 2: where they were matching me up on a linebacker on

1463
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 2: the juke routes, and so that's when it got eaten

1464
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 2: up and then they would go to the man. We

1465
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 2: just couldn't finish. We were moving the ball up and

1466
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 2: down the field. Just every time we got in the

1467
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 2: red area, you know, something went wrong. We couldn't finish play,

1468
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 2: We couldn't finish drives.

1469
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 5: But we were moving the ball.

1470
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 2: We were moving the ball, Like we were able to

1471
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 2: run the ball, what would we run for ninety four yards?

1472
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 10: Son?

1473
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 2: He had ninety four yards on eighteen carries. Rex had

1474
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 2: some big old runs, you know what I mean. So

1475
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,560
Speaker 2: like we were running the football. We just you know,

1476
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 2: that's where these games come down to. It's situational football,

1477
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's red area. It's four point plays,

1478
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 2: which is third down in the red area. Guys that

1479
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 2: you know, if you don't score touchdowns in the red area,

1480
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 2: that's usually what separates to win. Now, we just so

1481
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 2: happened to have a killer defensive game plan and our

1482
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 2: guys went out there and x a cute it to

1483
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 2: a t and having the veteran presence of the mccordy's

1484
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 2: and the Jason mccordy coming over, having his first Super Bowl,

1485
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 2: you know, having Gilmore go out and play to the

1486
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 2: big contract that we got him, gave him, and that's

1487
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 2: why we fought the first day of practice because I

1488
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 2: was pissed off that I used to write him up

1489
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 2: as a bill and then we gave him fourteen. He

1490
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 2: played the way he should have played with the interception

1491
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 2: and then the force fumble like it was it was

1492
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 2: crazy with one.

1493
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 5: Less dread his hair and his head one.

1494
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 2: That's my dog, bro.

1495
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: I remember.

1496
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 2: I remember on the way back because Bill kicked us out.

1497
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 2: It was the first day of pads. It was it

1498
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 2: was the first day, early practice, early practice, early practice. Kickses,

1499
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 2: just get the fuck hit the showers at home, and

1500
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 2: you too, Gilmore. By the time we're out, we're sitting

1501
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 2: in the shower in the locker room. You know, I'm like, yeah,

1502
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 2: my bad, bro. You know, he's like, you know, Gilly

1503
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,759
Speaker 2: doesn't really yeah.

1504
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, man, it's all right, you know, Like

1505
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:03,679
Speaker 1: it was, Oh man.

1506
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,639
Speaker 5: What do you you guys remember anything in particular about

1507
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 5: the lead up to this one Super Bowl prep wise,

1508
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 5: game plan wise that we didn't touch yet.

1509
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 2: We just were constantly talking about getting Aaron Donald protected.

1510
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. The whole team knew that.

1511
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 2: Though we were just talking about higher team knew we

1512
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 2: had we can't get Aaron. If we don't get Aaron

1513
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 2: Donald will lose the game.

1514
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 1: And that was the truth and that's still the truth.

1515
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: If you play those guys. You got a block ninety nine.

1516
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 2: Blocking ninety nine was huge. Red area. I remember us

1517
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 2: talking about red area. We got a score points which

1518
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 2: we didn't do very well on. You know, and those

1519
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 2: are the two things that come to my mind.

1520
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 1: Anything else special, And I know for us, like playing

1521
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 1: against Bones, you know, you always had to be fake sound.

1522
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 1: The Rams ran a lot of fakes with Johnny Hecker.

1523
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 2: He's a quarterback.

1524
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he can he can throw the ball.

1525
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 1: Now this kid can throw the ball. So we just

1526
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: were talking about fake adjustments all week, being fake sound.

1527
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 1: It got to the point, I mean we changed our

1528
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: what we were gonna do our checks maybe two or

1529
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,759
Speaker 1: three times. It got to the point where I remember

1530
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: looking over at Nate Edner and I was just like,

1531
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 1: hey man, when we get out there, just make sure

1532
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 1: we got a hat on a hat like we're probably

1533
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,640
Speaker 1: gonna screw the call up because we've gone through it

1534
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 1: so many times. Just make sure everybody's accounted for when

1535
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 1: we get out there. And uh, and you know, let's

1536
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 1: try to make a play. Little did we know that

1537
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: it was gonna be a fifteen punt extravaganza. But yeah,

1538
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 1: that fake sound was preached all week in our room.

1539
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,719
Speaker 2: What do you think of McVeigh at this time, because

1540
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 2: he had the whole boy gen respect for him. Yeah,

1541
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 2: I mean it was our age.

1542
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 1: He was Our age was just wild. I mean, I'm

1543
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: older than the guy.

1544
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 2: We played against, the same age.

1545
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: Just the fact that he was able to get Jared

1546
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 1: Goff turned around right like we played Jared Golf in sixteen.

1547
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 1: They came to us and you just didn't see it.

1548
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: And then this year and the year before that, you're like, man,

1549
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 1: this is a different player. So to me, that was

1550
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 1: very impressive because I don't think we have enough coaches

1551
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 1: in the league that can develop young quarterbacks. And then

1552
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 1: the way he had this offense rolling, I mean, you know,

1553
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 1: you thought we were going to be in for a

1554
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 1: long day.

1555
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:14,799
Speaker 5: And then to start the game, this was down in Atlanta.

1556
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 5: Can't start a game without a coin toss. Slate two

1557
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 5: and three in coin tosses in Super Bowls, but they

1558
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 5: lost every game that Slate won the coin toss, which

1559
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 5: is a weird stat.

1560
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 2: Heads, baby, Okay.

1561
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 1: So you lost, so I needed I lost, Yes, okay.

1562
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 5: But I will note you were one for one in

1563
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 5: overtime coin tosses. That's when it matters.

1564
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: NFC Championship game right week before, two weeks before, that's

1565
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 1: when it matters. Byby give it heads always right, never

1566
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 1: always tails.

1567
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 2: Was Dad feeling at this this game?

1568
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: He was given the most political answer all week. You know,

1569
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 1: either way it goes, I'm in a win win situation,

1570
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, how can you say that? He goes,

1571
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta, I gotta kind of they flew

1572
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: down there on the RAMS plane. Oh, they flew down

1573
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 1: there on the RAMS plane. They flew You know, he's

1574
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 1: working for the Rams all year doing media stuff. So

1575
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 1: I think he was trying to tow the line, like

1576
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: he didn't want to rock the boat with the Rams,

1577
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 1: which I respect. I mean, look, the Rams provided for

1578
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 1: my education growing up, So I got love for the Rams.

1579
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: But you know, come on, Pop, you gotta you gotta

1580
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: draw a hard line in the sand. It Stanley, you

1581
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 1: get family. Now, he was down on the field, he

1582
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 1: had the hats, he was so rating all and then

1583
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: he had to fly back on the plane. I don't

1584
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,640
Speaker 1: compromise him right now, but he had to fly back

1585
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: on the plane, and so he had to act real

1586
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 1: sad the next day, getting up getting back on the plane.

1587
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 4: But do you think had the Rams won, he would

1588
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 4: have shut up to the Rams party.

1589
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 11: Oh he'd have been in there and then dancing around

1590
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 11: he'd have been dappling up there.

1591
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,600
Speaker 1: And on the whole game. Oh that was weird. That

1592
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 1: was really weird for our family. I'm not gonna lie,

1593
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 1: like my dad at this point had a you know,

1594
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 1: forty year relationship with the RAM, so it was a

1595
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 1: strange situation for sure.

1596
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 5: He doesn't strike me as a split Jersey guy either,

1597
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 5: like the moms that were the half of.

1598
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,600
Speaker 1: Oh no, he's not doing that. He's not doing that.

1599
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 1: He ain't doing that.

1600
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 5: Oh man, all right. We talked a little bit about

1601
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 5: moving that ball in the first half and pretty much

1602
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,639
Speaker 5: throughout the whole game. But we started this thing half

1603
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 5: after the coin toss a Brady interception. What is it

1604
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 5: with Tom in those early Super Bowl interceptions? I don't know,

1605
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 5: but that's how this one started.

1606
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm not critiquing. I'm not taking either towns the best

1607
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 1: player in the history game.

1608
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 5: The d bailed him out with a stop on a

1609
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 5: three and out many of those. This game. Followed it

1610
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 5: up with a nice eleven play drive, really moving the ball,

1611
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 5: jewels you were getting open, but ended up with a

1612
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 5: Steve o missfield goal. Remained nothing nothing at the end

1613
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 5: of the first moving into the second, we finally got

1614
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 5: on the board with the Steve o forty two yarder

1615
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 5: and then the story of this game, so many punts

1616
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 5: we're talking here, fourteen total punts, eight alone in the

1617
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 5: first half. Five of those were off three and outs.

1618
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 5: So defenses were both playing hard and it was a

1619
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 5: feel bag game.

1620
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: I mean, inside the we were loving that. I'm not

1621
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,560
Speaker 1: gonna lie to y'all. We love to be able to

1622
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 1: go out there and do our job, and you know,

1623
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 1: we really got in a groove. I think early in

1624
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 1: that game, Ryan was hitting the ball with confidence. I

1625
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:21,799
Speaker 1: think we got him inside the ten a number of times,

1626
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: which ended up being you know, a big part of

1627
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 1: this game was that hitting yardage and keeping their offense

1628
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 1: on a long field. But you know, you got to

1629
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 1: shout out Ryan Allen for the game that he had.

1630
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,520
Speaker 1: I mean, this is one of the best punting performances

1631
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. And then for us, you know, a

1632
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 1: lot of the situations that we were in, we were

1633
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,600
Speaker 1: on singles, which we love as gunners, and we were

1634
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 1: just able to run and make play. So it was awesome.

1635
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 2: Is that a political that is that you see? You

1636
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 2: see when Slake gets into the coach mode, you see

1637
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 2: his voice octavetes like three three deeper.

1638
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just want to you know, right, yeah, yo, yeah, Fellows.

1639
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,600
Speaker 1: Fellows. He used to always get on me about my

1640
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 1: voice changing octaves, But like you know, you gotta use

1641
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 1: the appropriate active at the appropriate time.

1642
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 2: I need these appropriate time to go over the state

1643
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 2: of the union. What's the state of the union?

1644
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 1: We used to you want to stay, you want to

1645
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: talk state of the Union right now?

1646
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1647
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: We got all day. You know, we used to have

1648
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 1: these state of the Union talks or where Julian and

1649
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 1: I would go in private and openly discuss what we

1650
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 1: really felt like was going on with the team, the

1651
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 1: coaching staff, certain guys on the team, and you know,

1652
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:40,600
Speaker 1: the state of the union addresses started when we were

1653
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 1: living together. And probably the most the single most important

1654
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: state of the Union that we ever had was after

1655
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: we got throttled on Monday Night football by the Chiefs

1656
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, and ships we came back to the

1657
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 1: house and I was falling. I mean, it was a

1658
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 1: chicken little situation.

1659
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 7: Uh.

1660
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 1: The TV folks were saying that Tom was washed, that

1661
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 1: we were done. Trent Dilfer, who I just saw a

1662
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:12,560
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and reminded me of this.

1663
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 11: He was on he was on air and he's like,

1664
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 11: the dynasty is over. It's over, just crushing us. And

1665
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 11: you know we're not young, but we were kind of young,

1666
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 11: and we're like, man, we are.

1667
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 1: We are, we through, We're looking.

1668
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 2: We were just sitting there. The turk is coming overhaul

1669
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 2: the whole roster.

1670
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:38,839
Speaker 1: It's Bill. It's Bill gonna cut us. But uh, needless

1671
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 1: to say, we're on the Cincinnati. Yeah, but that's the

1672
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 1: State of the un But it.

1673
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 2: Would be so funny, like if something went down in

1674
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 2: the building, so Slate would be in. We'd be in

1675
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 2: the same meetings some of the times, and the Slate

1676
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 2: would be going to special teams and we'd be passioning

1677
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:58,560
Speaker 2: each other in the hallway, like on the way the cafeteria,

1678
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 2: like treatment or something. I'd be like, you have State

1679
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 2: of the Union. After State of the Union, he was like,

1680
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 2: state the Union. I'm like, state of the Union, State

1681
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 2: of the fucking Union. And we would wait until we

1682
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 2: left the premises of the ground. As we got older, yeah,

1683
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 2: as we got older. As we got older, we we

1684
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:17,640
Speaker 2: we we we we we stayed on the ground, right.

1685
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 1: But when we were young, you can't have a state

1686
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 1: of Union on the ground. Absolutely, place might be both.

1687
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 1: You can't never take that off site yet stay of

1688
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 1: the union off side.

1689
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 2: We go into the car.

1690
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 5: Oh my god, was state of the Union one one?

1691
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 1: There's always one, one, one one one. You can't you

1692
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: can't bring so many parties in the state of anything.

1693
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 1: The information leaks, you know, loose you know, loose lips.

1694
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: Think ships sink ships, and we won our ships sinking.

1695
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 2: After every State of the Union, we felt like the

1696
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 2: ship was.

1697
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 1: Seeking the ship.

1698
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 2: The outlook was always pulled the worst. I don't know,

1699
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 2: this is not like we are done our big union.

1700
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 2: After that we won three Super Bowls.

1701
01:23:58,240 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 1: Perspective exact exactly?

1702
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 4: Do you guys remember your last State of.

1703
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 1: The Union might have been a state of the Union

1704
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:04,680
Speaker 1: about the neat me.

1705
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:07,640
Speaker 2: And I don't know if I could do it.

1706
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 1: I mean, that was tough. That was tough for me

1707
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: because at that point in time, you know, I had

1708
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: two work wives in my career, Julian and mccordy.

1709
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:20,640
Speaker 2: Who's the main who was the mainstay?

1710
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 3: It was Julian was the primary work. You tell mccorty,

1711
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 3: he the side piece. Okay, he's a side piece.

1712
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 2: I mean, look, what when how about demon wearing all

1713
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 2: three of his rings on his on his show? Because

1714
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 2: here are wearing rings on the show.

1715
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 1: Broh, D mat Man the I yeah, I mean we

1716
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 1: got him. I guess we're supposed to wear them for banquets. Yeah,

1717
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 1: mine in lockdown, got a bank wearing mine.

1718
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 2: You give it to like a Pop Warner team to

1719
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,560
Speaker 2: look at. Yeah the National TV.

1720
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: Did he have on?

1721
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 2: He had multiple times.

1722
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 1: Dat we gotta talk about. But you know dmat was

1723
01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 1: also wearing a shirt was his own hit on there,

1724
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 1: So you know the modesty's gone.

1725
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 12: You know what?

1726
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 1: J Ma that J J Mack.

1727
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 2: J Mack classy guy.

1728
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 1: So what he's saying, I don't know. I didn't say that.

1729
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: I mean, is that old talking all class? In my book?

1730
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 1: Man all class?

1731
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:21,600
Speaker 2: Now he's classy, but he's just nasshole. J Max is

1732
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 2: just a loving league.

1733
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 1: I got grass. Okay, my work wife is going out

1734
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: with his knee and I'm in a pan. I'm trying

1735
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 1: to hold the front. I'm trying to act. Hey man,

1736
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,839
Speaker 1: you know, hey man, just get keep doing a rehab,

1737
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: keep getting it treated. You gotta just keep keep fighting.

1738
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 1: Then I go talk to the trainers. And they'd be

1739
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 1: like his knees done and I'm and I'm panicing, what

1740
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 1: do you mean it's done? He's like, I don't think

1741
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,719
Speaker 1: it's getting any better. But that was a tough staying

1742
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 1: that was tough. But you went out on your shield. Man.

1743
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,759
Speaker 1: You had your highest yard yardage game of your career

1744
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: that last year.

1745
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,799
Speaker 2: Remember, I was trying to come back. And I remember

1746
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 2: my last practice because after that we weren't even playoff

1747
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 2: Freddie and I was like, I'm not pushing this thing.

1748
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 2: The last practice, I just I just wanted to get

1749
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 2: Gilmour one more time, one on ones. I went out

1750
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,640
Speaker 2: just for one on ones. I got Little Miles on

1751
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 2: a double move. Then I got Gilmore and I literally

1752
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,560
Speaker 2: after I got Gilmore, I just chucked the deuces and

1753
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 2: went to the pool. It was the last time I

1754
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 2: was ever seen as a New England Patriot.

1755
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 1: Oh man, you went to the Wills fall off. That's

1756
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 1: what we always said, go to Wills fall off.

1757
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 2: You gotta go to the Willis fall off. Now are

1758
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 2: you surprised at the paces this terrible game? By this time,

1759
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,640
Speaker 2: I mean we were a full tangent. I forgot what

1760
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 2: we're talking about the game you know, I was loving it.

1761
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 1: I was loving the way the game was Evanon flown

1762
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,719
Speaker 1: because we were having a lot of opportunities to impact

1763
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 1: the game. But I was surprised because their offense was

1764
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 1: so potent. Obviously our offense was was really motoring at

1765
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 1: this time. I was surprised at how slow the game

1766
01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 1: was developing and how well the defenses were playing, you know.

1767
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 2: There. I watched this game and there was just crazy

1768
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 2: plays by so many guys on the defense. High Tower

1769
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 2: literally brought the thunder February, you know, Like I just

1770
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 2: remember there was like three plays in a row where

1771
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 2: they were trying to bring that tight end in to

1772
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 2: get the the backer and he literally put them on

1773
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 2: their butt like three times. The van Ney chip and

1774
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,480
Speaker 2: then Chase of Golf.

1775
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 1: On that big That was a great player by Kyle,

1776
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:32,640
Speaker 1: Like I was a great play there was.

1777
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 2: And then you know Gilmore with the pick when we

1778
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 2: needed it, Jason mccordy with you know, the pat out

1779
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 2: at the backside post with the adjustment that they put in,

1780
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,560
Speaker 2: you know, because they already got beat by that and

1781
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 2: they let it go. Remember, like there was just so

1782
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 2: much the defense played their nuts off, like it really

1783
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:54,560
Speaker 2: did man, this is exactly how Bill wanted it.

1784
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:56,600
Speaker 1: He loved it, loved it.

1785
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 2: It was we were in control of the game even

1786
01:27:58,600 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 2: though we.

1787
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: Weren't right and I mean to the fan, honestly, for me,

1788
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 1: and we played in five Super Bowls, to me, this

1789
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 1: was the most comfortable I ever felt during the Super Bowl.

1790
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 1: I mean every other game was a struggle. You know,

1791
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,719
Speaker 1: it was like, man, I don't know, we it always

1792
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 1: felt like we were in control of the game.

1793
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,600
Speaker 2: Felt like we were in control even though the score was.

1794
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 1: Close, and you know it was a tight ball game.

1795
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 1: It felt like this is transpartent, just the way we wanted.

1796
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,640
Speaker 5: So, I mean the first half alone, defense was incredible.

1797
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 5: Held the rams of fifty seven yards, only two first downs,

1798
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:34,720
Speaker 5: record loads for Sean McVay. First time he'd ever been

1799
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 5: shut out in the half of football, which is or

1800
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 5: first half of football, which is crazy jewels. Seven catches

1801
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 5: in the first first the Super Bowl record. Six of

1802
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 5: those seven were for first downs. Pretty sick. Jim Nantz

1803
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 5: was loving it. They go into the My.

1804
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 1: Man was running some round. He talk about beating man covers.

1805
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,680
Speaker 1: You were run some ounce that just the the average Joe.

1806
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 1: That's why that knees gone because that knee was working

1807
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 1: that night. I think it was my knees were hurting

1808
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 1: just watching it. I look at the highlights, I see

1809
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 1: my dog cutting. I'm like, oh my my meniscous, my

1810
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 1: icl hurt just watching. He was running some routes that night.

1811
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:15,640
Speaker 5: A half up three nothing, What was what was up

1812
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 5: in the halftime? Any adjustments anything big? We remember? Standard standard.

1813
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 2: It was just a standard like fellas we you know

1814
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 2: we're not playing our best. We just tighten up little

1815
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 2: things in the red area, just keep playing each play,

1816
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 2: trying to win one play at a time. You can't

1817
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 2: win it, and you know you can't win the game

1818
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 2: in one play, like that's the That was the mantra, like,

1819
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 2: let's just do our job every play and then line

1820
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 2: up and do it again. That's right, communication, execution, and.

1821
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 1: It sounds simple, but it's hard to carry out. And

1822
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, that's the one thing we did better than

1823
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 1: everybody for the time we were there. We were able

1824
01:29:57,920 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 1: to execute.

1825
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 5: Come out in the third quarter, let him tie it

1826
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 5: up on a Greg de leg field goal. And another

1827
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 5: thing there was was big. A lot of people don't

1828
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 5: talk about enough. Jung gets hurt goes out, we lose

1829
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 5: him Chung.

1830
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:12,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was big air.

1831
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 5: Cast on the arm.

1832
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 2: That's like some Rodney Harrison.

1833
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:15,640
Speaker 5: You know.

1834
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:19,560
Speaker 1: Chung brought such a level of like toughness and competes

1835
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 1: to our team and just intangibles that you don't really

1836
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 1: celebrate or talk about. That was a big loss when

1837
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:29,440
Speaker 1: he went out of the game, Like I felt emotionally,

1838
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 1: I felt, yeah, that was a blow that we had

1839
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 1: to kind of overcome.

1840
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 2: You know, you couldn't have explained it any better with

1841
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 2: what he brought to the team, with his toughness, with

1842
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:41,520
Speaker 2: how he practiced.

1843
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 5: For the first three years of my career, me and

1844
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 5: Chung was.

1845
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:49,560
Speaker 2: Fought every day every day because you know, there's like

1846
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:51,760
Speaker 2: an agreement when you're going into block force and he

1847
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:54,680
Speaker 2: was always the forced safety, you know, and he never

1848
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 2: agreed to the agreement, and I never agreed to the agreement.

1849
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:01,639
Speaker 2: So we were literally banging heads for three years every

1850
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 2: day and like it was just and but it made

1851
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 2: us better, Yeah, it did, you know. And that's what

1852
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 2: Chung was.

1853
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 6: He was.

1854
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 2: He worked his tail off. He was always dependable when

1855
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 2: the team needed it. And it's crazy when you can

1856
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 2: literally say that about pretty much everyone that was on

1857
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 2: the field, right, you know, and that's why the team

1858
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 2: was special. We're special.

1859
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:23,639
Speaker 5: And then moving into the fourth quarter, there's the first

1860
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:25,600
Speaker 5: time in Super Bowl history where we don't have a

1861
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:28,799
Speaker 5: touchdown in the game yet Wow, three to three Patriots

1862
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 5: get the ball with nine thirty nine left in the fourth.

1863
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:33,679
Speaker 5: We got the drive that pretty much wins this game.

1864
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 5: We're starting on our own thirty one, starting out with

1865
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,839
Speaker 5: a great pass to Gronk, then jeweles and Rexburghead gets involved,

1866
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 5: and then the play that one of the defining plays

1867
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 5: of this game in my mind was that hass Z juke. Right,

1868
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:46,759
Speaker 5: see the Gronk.

1869
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 2: Three plays in a row or four times in a row,

1870
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 2: they hit me on the juke, they hit what Rex

1871
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 2: on the outside yep. And then the one time when

1872
01:31:57,479 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 2: when they hit Rex, we saw that they gave us

1873
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 2: single safety. And when you get single safety on that play,

1874
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 2: that's why we you know, you see a highlight of

1875
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 2: Gronk hitting the seam running, you know, and and that's

1876
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 2: when it happened. You know, it was crazy. We could run.

1877
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:13,599
Speaker 2: That was like we used to call that play Jordan.

1878
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 2: You know that was Jordan because it was it was

1879
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 2: our safety blanket. We could run it against anything. Everyone

1880
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 2: knew how to run it. Everyone ran their specific route

1881
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 2: so many times where you knew how to get open

1882
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 2: on every coverage.

1883
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:30,680
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, No, I love that was

1884
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 5: one of my favorite Gronk moments of all time personally, you.

1885
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 1: Know, shout out Gronk because you know, this year was

1886
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:38,759
Speaker 1: tough for him, especially towards the end. He was banged

1887
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 1: up physically, he was just beat up, and what he

1888
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 1: really embraced was like, all right, I'm gonna just become

1889
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 1: a dominant blocker and then you know, when we needed

1890
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 1: plays in the past game, he just always found a

1891
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 1: way to rise to the occasion. And to me, that's

1892
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 1: what that's what makes him the best because when it

1893
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 1: wasn't perfect for him, when he was hurting, he found

1894
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 1: ways to make plays.

1895
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 5: And like in this game, my man was.

1896
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 1: Hurting, hurt, he was hurting, but when we needed him,

1897
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 1: he found a way. Joker found a way to make

1898
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 1: a play.

1899
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 2: Always did. And you know, people don't realize like he

1900
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 2: was probably half of himself that year. Oh like with

1901
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 2: just the physical and mental beatdown that he was having,

1902
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 2: because you got to think about it, I mean, Gronk

1903
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:30,519
Speaker 2: was the most dominant human being for most of his

1904
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 2: life and then you know, confidence wise was probably a

1905
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 2: little shot when you know, he's banged up and he's

1906
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:38,840
Speaker 2: going over rehabs every year, every year, and he was

1907
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:39,600
Speaker 2: getting sick of it.

1908
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 6: You know.

1909
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 2: Gronk's a big puppy man, you know, and for him

1910
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:45,680
Speaker 2: to go out and show out like he did, and

1911
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 2: it started, you know, probably like week eighteen. You know,

1912
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 2: he started just putting them together and anytime we needed

1913
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:56,560
Speaker 2: to play, Gronk made it. I mean, third down in

1914
01:33:56,720 --> 01:34:00,120
Speaker 2: ten in Kansas City, we hit him on the slint, know,

1915
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:03,719
Speaker 2: just big time plays when the team needed it. Gronk

1916
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 2: always showed up no matter what. That's right, you know,

1917
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 2: even when he wasn't himself. And that's that's how you

1918
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 2: know if you're playing with great players, because it's kind

1919
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 2: of like Nascar.

1920
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 5: You always hear the.

1921
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 2: Drivers talking about like, yo, how's the car running? The

1922
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 2: cars running great today? You know there's sometimes a car

1923
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,479
Speaker 2: ain't running good and you still got to win the race, right,

1924
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 2: you know, And that's what guys like Gronk, Guys like Tom.

1925
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 2: Tom had so many injuries that no one knew about,

1926
01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:36,720
Speaker 2: like broken broken feet and shit, you know like that.

1927
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 2: People don't even he tried to play with the aco.

1928
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 5: We all watched the doc.

1929
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:40,640
Speaker 9: Like.

1930
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:44,439
Speaker 2: To be able to adjust your game and still be

1931
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 2: able to perform at a high level is the ultimate

1932
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:50,640
Speaker 2: sign of being a professional. Dy Amn Dola used to

1933
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:52,559
Speaker 2: do it all the time. Break his ankle, come out

1934
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 2: taping his own ankle.

1935
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 1: Couldn't agree with you, dudes.

1936
01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:59,599
Speaker 5: And then before he wrap this thing up, we're getting

1937
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 5: down time here. This was another defining play from this game,

1938
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 5: From this second half, Slate's work. Brother in law Jason

1939
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 5: mccordy makes the game saving, the game saving play in

1940
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 5: my mind, one of them on Brandon Cooks in the

1941
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:17,720
Speaker 5: back of the end zone.

1942
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:22,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, huge, huge play. I mean, the thing about

1943
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 1: this play that's so impressive is Jason has a responsibility.

1944
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 1: They're in zone coverage and this is not his responsibility.

1945
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:31,639
Speaker 1: It is not his responsibility to be in the deep

1946
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:35,519
Speaker 1: third and to be covering this route. But he has

1947
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 1: the experience and the preparation in the football IQ to say, O,

1948
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 1: this guy's back here, he's open. It's not my guy,

1949
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:47,839
Speaker 1: but I better.

1950
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 4: Go get on him.

1951
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 1: And if he doesn't make this play, we may not

1952
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,600
Speaker 1: even be sitting here talking about this. So this is

1953
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:54,599
Speaker 1: a huge, huge play.

1954
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 5: You know what.

1955
01:35:55,520 --> 01:36:01,519
Speaker 2: The best play in my eyes was least play a

1956
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 2: game right type diving kill.

1957
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 1: Oh, there's no no, take that knee, baby, that's playing football.

1958
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:11,600
Speaker 1: Six tight diamond, take a knee that's playing That was

1959
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 1: right tight diving killed six tight in the sixth was

1960
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:18,639
Speaker 1: Josh m Nail six tight diamond taking knee right tight.

1961
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:21,760
Speaker 1: The only reason I know six tights because that's the

1962
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:22,639
Speaker 1: only player, man.

1963
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 2: He's.

1964
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:28,720
Speaker 1: Which. We had the Sea super Bowl, and there's like

1965
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 1: the scuffle at the the need for that.

1966
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 4: You're going all crazy.

1967
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get jokers checked it. I was trying

1968
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 1: to get Michael Bennett and ejected through a pot full

1969
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 1: on through a pot full on tackle.

1970
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 4: Gronk too.

1971
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:42,840
Speaker 1: Shout out Michael Bennett, one of my former teammates, but

1972
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:46,719
Speaker 1: he no remember Michael came Oh he did.

1973
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 5: For Yeah, wasn't the story he and Brett Beilam. I

1974
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:49,680
Speaker 5: didn't like you.

1975
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1976
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1977
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 2: Michael came out and we used to have shells that

1978
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:58,760
Speaker 2: you like on non padded days. He wore shells on

1979
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 2: a padded day. The man was He used to wear

1980
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 2: the smallest VT in that vet.

1981
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 5: He was super vet, super vet. Hold on before we

1982
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:09,439
Speaker 5: wrapped this thing up. Win the game thirteen to three.

1983
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 5: This was This was a punt game. This is one

1984
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 5: of the greatest punting special team Super Bowls ever. Can

1985
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 5: we go through a couple of stats here? Yeah, Johnny

1986
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 5: Hecker sixty five yards Super Bowl record, Astik broke Ryan

1987
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 5: Allen's punts.

1988
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 1: Astik Pastrick rolled it, rolled about thirty yards, and I

1989
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 1: remember looking at Johnny and I looked at him. I

1990
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 1: was like, you, lucky, something got He just looked at me.

1991
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 2: At the old Scotty oo is probably back at home

1992
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 2: at the ranch yelling at it because I didn't play

1993
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 2: it off its first bounce.

1994
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:45,920
Speaker 1: Oh what are you supposed to do? He shanked it

1995
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 1: and that rolled thirty yards.

1996
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:52,400
Speaker 5: Shank mcdank, shank stick. He broke the previous record, which

1997
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 5: was held by Ryan Allen from the twenty fifteenth Super

1998
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 5: sixty four yards real record.

1999
01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:59,759
Speaker 1: I'm just playing, Johnny. I'm just kidding.

2000
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 5: Fourteen total punts, six of which were down inside the

2001
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:07,679
Speaker 5: twenty yard line. Ryan Allen had punts down on the six,

2002
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 5: the two, and the seven. Hecker had puns down on

2003
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 5: the eight the two in the twelve.

2004
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 1: Yard lines kind of wild.

2005
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 5: This was wild wild. To make it even wilder, backed

2006
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 5: up these two guys. I mean we're talking great roommates

2007
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 5: right here, Ryan Allen Johnny Hecker roommates at Oregon State. Yeah.

2008
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 1: Crazy, they get that that little rivalry because Ryan had

2009
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:30,560
Speaker 1: to transfer, Johnny beat him out. Yeah, and then I

2010
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 1: think Ryan won like the Guy Award twice when he transferred.

2011
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 5: But there's always a little something.

2012
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: He's always they always had a little like, hey, hey,

2013
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:42,000
Speaker 1: what's that man? Like, No, I'm gonna get this guy.

2014
01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2015
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 2: Right, kickers, they're in their own world. They like they're cool,

2016
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 2: but they they're all competitive.

2017
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 1: They are very competitive. Wild.

2018
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 5: Soh yeah, this one goes down lowest scoring super Bowl history,

2019
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 5: thirteen to three, Pats win, Brady passes, Charles Haley six rings,

2020
01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 5: most of any single player craziness. And then we got

2021
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 5: the after party of the aftermath.

2022
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 1: Golf was traded gone, which brings me back to my

2023
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 1: other point though Julian's point, winning is fun. If you

2024
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 1: don't win, you don't get one hundred percent. Julian Edelman, Okay,

2025
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 1: you don't get to.

2026
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,639
Speaker 2: Ellen degenerous, shaving my beard, have that one.

2027
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:26,880
Speaker 1: Shave your beard, you know with Tom right. I mean,

2028
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:29,920
Speaker 1: you don't get to experience all these things unless you win,

2029
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 1: so therefore winning is fun.

2030
01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 2: What's your favorite parade story?

2031
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:37,960
Speaker 1: I think our first parade against that Seattle team.

2032
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:38,679
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

2033
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:41,640
Speaker 1: Now we won't get up, we won't get into the

2034
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 1: lead up and the build up and that, but we

2035
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 1: know what that build that was. Anyways, you know that

2036
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 1: Seattle team that was that That felt good to beat

2037
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:51,720
Speaker 1: those guys because that team they were a little a

2038
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 1: little on the cocky side, little on the cocky side.

2039
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 1: I'll never forget you on top of the duck boat beard,

2040
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:02,519
Speaker 1: out of control T shirt. It's freaking a tea freezy.

2041
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 1: There was somebody had a Richard Sherman sign where he

2042
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,680
Speaker 1: was doing this and it and it said how many

2043
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 1: rings his brady had four? And you were up there

2044
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:16,840
Speaker 1: interacting with the crowd and the fans and that sign.

2045
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 1: That was a good time.

2046
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 2: That was a good bueler day off full on after

2047
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 2: those ones are just chilled.

2048
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:26,640
Speaker 5: Really, oh man, Jules, step back here. How do they

2049
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:28,600
Speaker 5: tell you you want chipol and V be like, what's that?

2050
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:30,880
Speaker 5: What's that? Process, like on the field, I think Stacy,

2051
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 5: can Stacey tell you?

2052
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 2: Let's see, I wouldn't be here without you so much.

2053
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 5: Boston for bringing another championship home.

2054
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 1: Trying to get the emotional open. Yes, that's when I

2055
01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:51,920
Speaker 1: was when I when I ask him about the m

2056
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 1: v P.

2057
01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 2: Everyone together, six time champions?

2058
01:40:58,320 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 6: Are you.

2059
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:07,719
Speaker 2: Crazy?

2060
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 5: Bro?

2061
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 1: MVP?

2062
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 2: She can't stay shure, We're only doing up there together.

2063
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:24,600
Speaker 2: Oh man, have you noticed coach Belichick gate with his

2064
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:29,679
Speaker 2: girl talk with that girl. We're together, baby, We're together.

2065
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 1: We're still here here, still here.

2066
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 6: Man.

2067
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 1: You know that that that was to be able to

2068
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:42,519
Speaker 1: have witnessed your entire professional journey, you know, highs, lows, everything.

2069
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 1: That was maybe the highest moment for me as your brother,

2070
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 1: as your fan, like you won the m v P,

2071
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:54,640
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. We grew up watching this thing, you know,

2072
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:58,639
Speaker 1: we grew up with a dream and to be able

2073
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 1: to make it to the biggest age and have that

2074
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 1: kind of success. It's just so proud of you.

2075
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 6: Man.

2076
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:11,639
Speaker 2: Man, I'm proud of you. Man who plays sixteen years football?

2077
01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:13,200
Speaker 1: I fooled him pretty good.

2078
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:16,560
Speaker 2: Get out of here. Let's let's give you some some

2079
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:19,320
Speaker 2: quick hitters. What's Tom's legacy after this game.

2080
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 1: I mean, in my mind he was already the greatest,

2081
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 1: but this just further cemented. Like, you know, if football

2082
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:30,920
Speaker 1: is about winning and and quarterbacking is about leading your

2083
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 1: team to win, then there's no argument that this game

2084
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 1: solidified him as the greatest player of all time.

2085
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 2: Well what about the next super Bowl?

2086
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 1: Well the next super Bowl? The emotions are a little

2087
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 1: bit different. I was a little bit angry. He should

2088
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 1: be with us. He loved us, he loves us. Talk. Sorry,

2089
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 1: did he ever text you? And let you know?

2090
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:56,080
Speaker 5: I found out through a bottom ticker.

2091
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 1: If he didn't text you, you know he didn't text me.

2092
01:42:58,920 --> 01:42:59,760
Speaker 1: Bottom left us.

2093
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:02,639
Speaker 2: He's giving me clues, but he was always giving, He's

2094
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 2: always talking.

2095
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:06,759
Speaker 1: That left us, then he's over there, him and Gronk

2096
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:08,040
Speaker 1: hoisting another one up.

2097
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:12,800
Speaker 2: Never got hammered with us, Oh, staggering off the boat,

2098
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:17,720
Speaker 2: never got hoisted the embody throwing it, getting real cavalier

2099
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 2: with it.

2100
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:20,680
Speaker 1: Come on, Tom, I was happy for you, does but

2101
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:23,519
Speaker 1: he left us. He left us, left us at the altar.

2102
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:25,559
Speaker 2: And what are you supposed to do? You're happy your

2103
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:28,920
Speaker 2: ex wife, Mary is a freaking man, the Navy seal.

2104
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:32,759
Speaker 5: Billionaire, But Navy seal billionaire.

2105
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:35,519
Speaker 1: Oh no you're not.

2106
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 2: That's the last person you want your wife to marry.

2107
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 2: Navy seal billionaire.

2108
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 1: That's what he did to us. That's what he did.

2109
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:46,680
Speaker 4: Don't you just wanted to be happy? What don't you

2110
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 4: just want your ex wife to be happy?

2111
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 2: Come on, we want you to be happy. Now of

2112
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 2: this game embody the Patriot way to the fullest or

2113
01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:54,800
Speaker 2: what slate?

2114
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:57,800
Speaker 1: This team embodied it? Right, This was not our best team,

2115
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 1: but we found way used to come together, to overcome,

2116
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 1: to you know, adjust and to ultimately win. And we found,

2117
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 1: you know a way to like dig within ourselves and

2118
01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:13,560
Speaker 1: be at our best when it was needed. So to me,

2119
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:17,920
Speaker 1: not just this game and the way it transpired, but

2120
01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:21,639
Speaker 1: the way this season unfolded really embodied the Patriot way,

2121
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:25,599
Speaker 1: you know, as much as any season that I think

2122
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 1: we were a part of.

2123
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 2: So now where does this game rink for greatest Matthew

2124
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 2: Slater game?

2125
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 1: Well, it's definitely one of my favorites.

2126
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 2: Well, I mean statistic wise too, do you have any

2127
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 2: tackles I had?

2128
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 1: I had a tackle this game. This is like a

2129
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 1: few down punts. So to the one handerlander, the one

2130
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 1: hand lander, one hander lander when I'll show my kids

2131
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 1: twenty years from now, just to remind them old dad

2132
01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:53,280
Speaker 1: used to be something. But this is up there. I

2133
01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 1: mean because I think our unit, I mean your team

2134
01:44:56,920 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 1: individually it was special beat my dad's team being able

2135
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 1: to play well, but just our unit collectively, special teams.

2136
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 1: You know, Nate Keon, you know obviously, Ryan, Steve, Joe,

2137
01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 1: all those guys. We've all played well and we helped

2138
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 1: the team win, which was huge.

2139
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 5: Geez.

2140
01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 2: Was this Bill's best Super Bowl coaching?

2141
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:27,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's up there. I think if you look

2142
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:29,639
Speaker 1: at the book end titles, right the first one against

2143
01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 1: the Rams, I think that was some great code.

2144
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:34,639
Speaker 2: What what about the Seattle where he didn't call the time.

2145
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 1: Out, creating a frenzy on this joking coach football nowt

2146
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 1: and a lot of this show was that's Jedi mind trick.

2147
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:48,640
Speaker 1: Make no mistake about it. There are thirty you know,

2148
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 1: let's call it, well, maybe not thirty teams because some

2149
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 1: teams have good coaches. There are at least fifteen teams

2150
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:57,040
Speaker 1: in the league that don't have a coach as good

2151
01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:02,280
Speaker 1: as this guy. They can't even sniffle I know, fifteen

2152
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 1: teams in the league.

2153
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:06,920
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, tell you right now, Atlanta, if

2154
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 2: you don't win that division.

2155
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:10,320
Speaker 1: Look, I don't want to I don't want to point

2156
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:13,080
Speaker 1: fingers at what the I'm just saying. I'm not saying

2157
01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:15,439
Speaker 1: a team. I'm not naming a team by name. I

2158
01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 1: don't want to name a team. But the fact that

2159
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 1: this guy doesn't have a job.

2160
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:22,280
Speaker 2: I wanted to go down to atl Man, go to

2161
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:27,639
Speaker 2: the camps, taking the scene. Check out magic City.

2162
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 1: No, ain't no magic city over here. Now, ain't no

2163
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:34,720
Speaker 1: magic city. No magic city, now shout it ain't no

2164
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 1: magic city. But uh yeah, man, it's This was definitely

2165
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 1: one of his all time I think great coaching performances.

2166
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:46,640
Speaker 1: To shut that offense down, to come up with the

2167
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:50,680
Speaker 1: game plan, to to really neutralize those guys. It goes

2168
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:51,439
Speaker 1: up there for sure.

2169
01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 2: Now, after this game, did you start to feel the

2170
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 2: sky in the its team was following out?

2171
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:04,240
Speaker 1: Well, if we're honest, which is what we've been doing

2172
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:09,400
Speaker 1: all day, seventeen was turbulent. There was turbulence in seventeen,

2173
01:47:09,479 --> 01:47:13,960
Speaker 1: and turbulence. Fasten your safety belts because that thing.

2174
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 2: Was a little rocky chunk. Ain't flying and not plane

2175
01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:16,680
Speaker 2: no more.

2176
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry, PC I know you don't like flying.

2177
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 1: I learned that the hard way. But we were turbulent.

2178
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:30,760
Speaker 1: Now now we were thirteen three super Bowl, but you know,

2179
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:34,080
Speaker 1: it started with you getting hurt in the preseason and

2180
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 1: then there was just a lot of turbulence. Eighteen somehow

2181
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 1: we I don't know how, but we rallied up. We

2182
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:47,200
Speaker 1: answered the bell nineteen. We're bringing her on in for landing,

2183
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:48,080
Speaker 1: you know.

2184
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 2: And then and Aby didn't.

2185
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:53,640
Speaker 5: Aby was we were on the Super Bowl. Ab was

2186
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 5: on the team.

2187
01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 1: Aby was special.

2188
01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:59,040
Speaker 2: Man that that was one thing we needed because Gronk

2189
01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 2: wasn't there, didn't have anything, you know what I mean.

2190
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:01,840
Speaker 5: It was good.

2191
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 1: But you know what really did a sin was when

2192
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:10,639
Speaker 1: TV left us at the altar. Yeah, left us. TV

2193
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:14,760
Speaker 1: left us. We were there. We were ready, ready to

2194
01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 1: serve you, ready to go out there and die for you.

2195
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:18,200
Speaker 1: Ain't left us.

2196
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:20,280
Speaker 2: There ain't no twelve walking through that damn door.

2197
01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:25,240
Speaker 1: Ain't no twelve walking through that door. And I love Camp.

2198
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:29,400
Speaker 1: I love Camp. I enjoyed my time with cam. My

2199
01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:33,080
Speaker 1: fashion definitely went up and he was a great person

2200
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:35,720
Speaker 1: to be around. So this is not a knock on

2201
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:40,240
Speaker 1: Cam Newton at all, because this is an MVP player elite,

2202
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 1: but twelve levels at the altar. It's called what it is. Yeah, Tom,

2203
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:48,800
Speaker 1: don't worry. Thomas still got your jersey up in my

2204
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:52,679
Speaker 1: office right next to my dad's. You always be my guy.

2205
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:53,800
Speaker 1: But you left us.

2206
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:58,120
Speaker 2: He had left us, probably done the same thing ready.

2207
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be honest, I thought you were going

2208
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 1: down there too. I thought all you jokers are gonna

2209
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:09,519
Speaker 1: go down there, and I was, Oh, I would have

2210
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 1: been steamed. I mean, all of a sudden, Gonk wants

2211
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:14,120
Speaker 1: to resurface out of retirement.

2212
01:49:16,439 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 2: Out just ball out.

2213
01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, Rob, But I get it. You

2214
01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:24,479
Speaker 1: know I'll joking a sign. I get it.

2215
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 5: We get it.

2216
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 1: Everything happened the way I was supposed to.

2217
01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:31,600
Speaker 2: How about this rumblings of Bill potentially joining.

2218
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:36,080
Speaker 1: The media this year, Oh, that would be something. How

2219
01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:36,680
Speaker 1: do you think he'd do?

2220
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:37,439
Speaker 5: Kill it?

2221
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 1: You think so?

2222
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's so smart. You're watching all those NFL things.

2223
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 2: Whenever he does that stuff, it's a historical thing. He'll

2224
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 2: kill it. But I straight up told him if he

2225
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:50,679
Speaker 2: if he goes out and doesn't come on this podcast,

2226
01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:56,760
Speaker 2: Games with Names, I took the shitty contracts. Okay, I

2227
01:49:57,760 --> 01:50:01,479
Speaker 2: worked my dick off Yeah, I was asshole here and

2228
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 2: there sometimes, and Poudy here and there. But I put

2229
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 2: on the work.

2230
01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:06,599
Speaker 1: He needs to be sitting right in the sea.

2231
01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 5: I need coach right here.

2232
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:11,559
Speaker 1: Especially if Ernie comes. If Ernie comes on the pond,

2233
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:14,599
Speaker 1: he's gotta come, he's gotta come.

2234
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 2: You gotta get coach on the only one that goddamn

2235
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:19,160
Speaker 2: media going to bat for him.

2236
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:23,760
Speaker 1: Remember all year, all year down with the ship that

2237
01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:24,400
Speaker 1: was Amano.

2238
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:26,560
Speaker 2: You went down with the ship I was.

2239
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:29,599
Speaker 1: I was like one of those violin players on the Titanic.

2240
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:30,879
Speaker 2: You were the guy violated.

2241
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:33,519
Speaker 1: I'm playing that tune till I can't play it anymore.

2242
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm going down. I'm committed to this ship, committed to

2243
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:39,720
Speaker 1: the captain of the ship, and I'm going down with it.

2244
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:41,960
Speaker 2: I was one of the lifeboat workers that had to,

2245
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 2: you know, go down with the lifeboat but still lived.

2246
01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:46,439
Speaker 2: But yeah, still with.

2247
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:49,679
Speaker 1: Well, I'm fully gone.

2248
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:54,680
Speaker 2: I can't no that ain't you You're the guy your captain, bro,

2249
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:56,719
Speaker 2: you were in No, no, no, Bill's a captain.

2250
01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 1: Bill's a captain. I'm just a part of that band,

2251
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:01,280
Speaker 1: playing my tune all the way.

2252
01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:07,639
Speaker 2: Oh he went down last and all Jackie, we got

2253
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:09,640
Speaker 2: he leftovers we missed anything.

2254
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:11,479
Speaker 5: Was like a quick question, or was did this year

2255
01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:13,720
Speaker 5: feel like a different Bill? Or like was there was

2256
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:15,360
Speaker 5: there a reason we're writing on the wall. I don't

2257
01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:17,760
Speaker 5: want to you mean this past season. Yeah, I don't

2258
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:18,439
Speaker 5: want to pry too.

2259
01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 1: Much, but no, I'm retired. You know, this year was tough.

2260
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 1: It was challenging, and the one thing of anything that

2261
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:29,519
Speaker 1: I saw was that we know how competitive Bill is.

2262
01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:32,360
Speaker 1: He wants to win, not just every game, he wants

2263
01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:36,280
Speaker 1: to win every practice, every meeting, every lifting session, and

2264
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:38,680
Speaker 1: it was hard for him not to win. It was

2265
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:41,320
Speaker 1: hard for all of us, but no one put more

2266
01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 1: time and effort and commitment into that program than Bill,

2267
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:49,320
Speaker 1: So it was certainly hard for him to you know,

2268
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:51,680
Speaker 1: experience that. It was hard for all of us. I mean,

2269
01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:56,120
Speaker 1: you know, being in that building where we had so

2270
01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 1: much success, to experience four and thirteen. It wasn't It

2271
01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:02,479
Speaker 1: wasn't fun. It was not fun. But the one thing

2272
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:06,400
Speaker 1: I'll say about coach is he never changed. Like if

2273
01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:09,920
Speaker 1: you said in the team meeting week seventeen, we're playing

2274
01:52:10,439 --> 01:52:13,880
Speaker 1: the Jets, he's coaching us like it's the AFC Championship game.

2275
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 1: Like the consistency, the readiness, the preparation. It never changed,

2276
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:22,760
Speaker 1: and that really gave me a great appreciation for who

2277
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:23,720
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is.

2278
01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:29,120
Speaker 2: I think he softened up. I'm just saying, I remember

2279
01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:31,479
Speaker 2: when I was on my way out, I'm like, the

2280
01:52:31,560 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 2: fuck's going on around here? His plays getting soft? He

2281
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:38,519
Speaker 2: tried to change. That's the problem. He tried to change

2282
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:39,320
Speaker 2: with the times.

2283
01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:42,240
Speaker 1: Coaches just want to be on record for saying, I

2284
01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 1: don't you know, I stay with you, united coach united

2285
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:50,360
Speaker 1: to the end. That doesn't me and I agree with everything.

2286
01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:51,120
Speaker 2: Had your back tilled.

2287
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:52,800
Speaker 1: He didn't agree with everything.

2288
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:56,280
Speaker 2: I did, but sure, you know, but things got a

2289
01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:59,160
Speaker 2: little softer when I went on my way out. I'm

2290
01:52:59,200 --> 01:52:59,639
Speaker 2: just joking.

2291
01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:02,200
Speaker 1: Were you saying, Are you implying that it was a

2292
01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:04,240
Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse operation?

2293
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, Okay, I'm just saying things that just want

2294
01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:09,680
Speaker 2: to like sure, like guys, it wasn't the.

2295
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:12,519
Speaker 8: Same Like did Kendrick Bourne ever throw a helmet?

2296
01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 1: Oh, Kendrick Bourne and throwing our helmets soft? We didn't

2297
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:19,400
Speaker 1: have a helmet thrower. That was a problem. I tried

2298
01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:21,479
Speaker 1: to toss mine one time. I just had a character,

2299
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 1: couldn't then pull it off. We needed Jaye. There was

2300
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:26,920
Speaker 1: no je no j came to the risk.

2301
01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 2: It was the first thing I first practiced, said come

2302
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:31,120
Speaker 2: back like everyone's looking at me like he's gonna throw

2303
01:53:31,120 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 2: a helmet.

2304
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:35,720
Speaker 5: Yes, we needed and then to wrap this thing up,

2305
01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:38,240
Speaker 5: we talked to Keep to leave. We talked to Wes Welker,

2306
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:41,439
Speaker 5: and we talked Bill Belichick Slate with a great recall

2307
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 5: of a moment from twenty fourteen January twenty fourteen. Indeed,

2308
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:48,120
Speaker 5: Wes Welker did hurt to Keep to leave on a

2309
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:51,519
Speaker 5: pick play, and Bill was quoted telling Mike Grease one

2310
01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:55,040
Speaker 5: of the worst plays I've seen, the way it turned out.

2311
01:53:55,479 --> 01:53:57,680
Speaker 5: I went and I watched it back. I didn't have

2312
01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:00,479
Speaker 5: a clear chance to yesterday. It was a deliver played

2313
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:02,320
Speaker 5: by the receiver to take out a keep.

2314
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:08,639
Speaker 1: No attempt to say the Bill West rivalry it's out there,

2315
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 1: I think, fellas, can we just bridge the yaff here?

2316
01:54:12,640 --> 01:54:14,880
Speaker 1: Like you guys did a lot of great things together.

2317
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:18,840
Speaker 1: But I've been agreeing with Bill. He had he was

2318
01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:19,599
Speaker 1: out for blood.

2319
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:20,960
Speaker 5: Oh he was out for blood.

2320
01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:24,920
Speaker 1: It was personal, personal, and he took a key bout

2321
01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 1: cost us the game. You know what, So, Wes, I

2322
01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:31,000
Speaker 1: hope you consid there and feel good and is Wes

2323
01:54:31,120 --> 01:54:32,960
Speaker 1: now coaching his players to do that? Is he coaching

2324
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:36,880
Speaker 1: Tyree do that illegal picks? Guys? I hope not Wes.

2325
01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:41,480
Speaker 1: I player safety West player player safety te Belichick.

2326
01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 2: Let's name the game. Let's name the game. Beat l

2327
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:53,680
Speaker 2: A thirteen and three, The Passion of the Punt or

2328
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:56,280
Speaker 2: the edel Nut Game. I think it's the passion of

2329
01:54:56,320 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 2: the punt.

2330
01:54:57,240 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I love that name. I love all those names.

2331
01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:05,560
Speaker 1: But because we were Boston sports guys, and because LA,

2332
01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:08,600
Speaker 1: we just don't like LA, even though I'm from out

2333
01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:10,640
Speaker 1: of here. You gotta go beat l A.

2334
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:12,240
Speaker 2: Howd you get one of the T shirts that we

2335
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:14,880
Speaker 2: were selling, Remember the beat l A T shirt? Oh?

2336
01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 1: I got all the merch, just making sure I got

2337
01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:18,200
Speaker 1: all them merch.

2338
01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:20,280
Speaker 5: Oh man, big time missed by me on this one.

2339
01:55:20,440 --> 01:55:22,840
Speaker 5: This was the same year the Red Sox beat the Dodgers.

2340
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:24,840
Speaker 2: Same year, so it was a big yeah in l A.

2341
01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:26,320
Speaker 4: And you beat the Chargers too.

2342
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:27,880
Speaker 2: We beat the Chargers and.

2343
01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:30,839
Speaker 1: Everybody thought the Charger is gonna stomp us out stump

2344
01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:33,920
Speaker 1: and we just score beat the brakes off of them.

2345
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:42,400
Speaker 2: I fell back because I liked Anthony Lynn. Yeah, I

2346
01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 2: was forty. I liked it. I don't know why. I

2347
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:46,240
Speaker 2: just liked Anthony Lynn.

2348
01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:48,600
Speaker 1: I did too. I like Anthony. I liked a lot

2349
01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:52,120
Speaker 1: of guys on that team. Pete riv obviously, Keenan Allen,

2350
01:55:53,080 --> 01:56:00,320
Speaker 1: Adrian Phillips, who Slayation beat l A. There it is La,

2351
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:05,880
Speaker 1: it will forever be a Boston mantral A. Visit J

2352
01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:09,360
Speaker 1: eleven dot com to purchase your merchandise today, which is

2353
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:11,800
Speaker 1: now just games, which is another thing you can't do

2354
01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:15,280
Speaker 1: if you don't win, is sell merchandise, games and names.

2355
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:22,120
Speaker 2: Let's score the game presented by the win Las Vegas

2356
01:56:22,160 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 2: and Encore Boston Harbor. Is this the greatest game of

2357
01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:30,520
Speaker 2: all time? Let's score it. Steaks one to ten? What

2358
01:56:30,760 --> 01:56:34,360
Speaker 2: are Decimo's okay, slate one to ten? What are the stakes?

2359
01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 1: I mean, steaks are always high in a Super Bowl.

2360
01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:41,320
Speaker 1: Legacies on the line, last, the life of the dynasty

2361
01:56:42,440 --> 01:56:47,960
Speaker 1: still alive, Bob, So she would say, it's still so

2362
01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say seven point.

2363
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:56,960
Speaker 2: Eight integrity score. What I tell you guys, He's gonna

2364
01:56:57,000 --> 01:57:00,520
Speaker 2: have a very integrity type score. Star power, our power.

2365
01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:04,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at it. You've got some all

2366
01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:06,960
Speaker 1: time greats in this game. You've got the greatest player

2367
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:09,120
Speaker 1: in the history of the game. You've got arguably the

2368
01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:11,800
Speaker 1: greatest defensive player in the history of the game. You've

2369
01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:14,200
Speaker 1: got the greatest tight end in the history game. You've

2370
01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:17,320
Speaker 1: got the greatest slot receiver in history of the game.

2371
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:21,800
Speaker 1: Wes Welker played, Oh no, Wow, West was good. Wow,

2372
01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 1: Wes was good. You've got we've talked about a key,

2373
01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:27,920
Speaker 1: we've talked about got. Star power is pretty high. So

2374
01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:28,680
Speaker 1: out of ten.

2375
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:33,040
Speaker 5: Also, Maroon five played the halftime show last night pre

2376
01:57:33,120 --> 01:57:38,520
Speaker 5: game national anthem. Who glads Knight still last night? Still

2377
01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 5: got it?

2378
01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:39,200
Speaker 6: At it?

2379
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:42,640
Speaker 1: Well, gladys Knight's got to bring the score up by yourself.

2380
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 1: So we're to the star power eight point one eight

2381
01:57:46,160 --> 01:57:50,800
Speaker 1: point one slid gameplay game play, Well, you're asking the

2382
01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:54,360
Speaker 1: wrong guy. Special teams, game I mean gameplay, special teams.

2383
01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:58,120
Speaker 1: Why it's ten point zero. But I think overall gameplay,

2384
01:57:58,280 --> 01:58:02,360
Speaker 1: you know, and this is from a football guy who

2385
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:07,600
Speaker 1: enjoys defense, enjoys grittiness. I'm gonna give that. I'm gonna

2386
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:10,400
Speaker 1: give that gameplay an eight point nine eight point nine

2387
01:58:10,680 --> 01:58:11,560
Speaker 1: given an eight point.

2388
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:16,800
Speaker 2: Nine defensive guy, son of an offensive guy, Special team

2389
01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:18,000
Speaker 2: all time great but going.

2390
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:20,960
Speaker 1: But going to the defense, going to defense through football guy,

2391
01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:22,000
Speaker 1: true football guy.

2392
01:58:22,120 --> 01:58:24,120
Speaker 2: Name of the game, beat la beat l A.

2393
01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:27,760
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we're Boston people, right. My home is

2394
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:33,320
Speaker 1: in Boston now, so we're gonna have to go We're

2395
01:58:33,360 --> 01:58:35,400
Speaker 1: gonna have to go nine. Oh I know on that,

2396
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:37,280
Speaker 1: I know on the on the name.

2397
01:58:37,480 --> 01:58:40,040
Speaker 2: What's there total? If Gronk was here, he'd just be

2398
01:58:40,120 --> 01:58:41,120
Speaker 2: able to put it right out.

2399
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:44,480
Speaker 1: He didn't. He is crazy with that. He is crazy

2400
01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:46,400
Speaker 1: with that. We did eight point four.

2401
01:58:47,560 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 2: Where does it land in the games that we have done?

2402
01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:52,879
Speaker 5: Oh? Man, this one puts us right between the twenty

2403
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:57,640
Speaker 5: eleven AFC Divisional Round game aka the Can't Wait Game

2404
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:00,400
Speaker 5: Jets For's Patrios. Oh, let's forget about that, oh Bart

2405
01:59:00,440 --> 01:59:06,120
Speaker 5: Scott can't Wait, and right behind the Seattle versus New

2406
01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:09,920
Speaker 5: England Super Bowl, the Malcolm Butler game, Super Blood wolf Moon.

2407
01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:13,720
Speaker 5: We did that one with Rob Wriggle. Yeah, remember that,

2408
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:14,560
Speaker 5: one of our favorites.

2409
01:59:14,640 --> 01:59:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah's was he a cop?

2410
01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:20,840
Speaker 5: He was a marine?

2411
01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:22,320
Speaker 1: He was a marine. That's what it was.

2412
01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:24,600
Speaker 5: He played a cop in the Hangover though he did

2413
01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:26,200
Speaker 5: he did that.

2414
01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:27,760
Speaker 1: He was a marine?

2415
01:59:28,920 --> 01:59:29,440
Speaker 6: Is he is?

2416
01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:30,520
Speaker 1: He hilarious person?

2417
01:59:30,760 --> 01:59:33,880
Speaker 2: So dude, We've had some really, we got some funny

2418
01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:37,320
Speaker 2: people who we just had uh Lewis black On here,

2419
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:37,840
Speaker 2: he had some.

2420
01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:41,800
Speaker 1: Peoples, Gary Goleman was was funny.

2421
01:59:43,400 --> 01:59:46,520
Speaker 2: Was really We've got some comics, you know. You know,

2422
01:59:46,680 --> 01:59:49,600
Speaker 2: because we started the show with Sam, we've been kind

2423
01:59:49,600 --> 01:59:52,400
Speaker 2: of introduced into this whole comic world in all the comics,

2424
01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:56,480
Speaker 2: you know, and I've kind of developed relationships with these

2425
01:59:56,520 --> 01:59:59,600
Speaker 2: guys and yeah, they're so funny. Do you think you're

2426
01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:03,040
Speaker 2: like giggly, No, these guys are pros over here.

2427
02:00:03,040 --> 02:00:06,400
Speaker 1: Is just killing it. Just wait, I like the riddle

2428
02:00:07,080 --> 02:00:07,600
Speaker 1: big fan of.

2429
02:00:09,200 --> 02:00:12,960
Speaker 2: Ten minutes early was he prompt prompt marine.

2430
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:14,040
Speaker 1: That's that marine and marine.

2431
02:00:14,160 --> 02:00:19,120
Speaker 2: He gave a marine coin, he gave his nice slate.

2432
02:00:19,200 --> 02:00:21,560
Speaker 1: Anything, Dad, we covered a lot.

2433
02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:24,000
Speaker 2: What about you know, maybe give a plug to the

2434
02:00:24,040 --> 02:00:24,600
Speaker 2: JC guy.

2435
02:00:27,800 --> 02:00:29,800
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful thing, though, that a Jewish man and

2436
02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:33,280
Speaker 1: a Christian man can sit down and find common ground.

2437
02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:35,720
Speaker 1: I just want to say that that's one of the

2438
02:00:35,760 --> 02:00:39,280
Speaker 1: beautiful things about football. We find common ground. And there's

2439
02:00:39,280 --> 02:00:43,120
Speaker 1: a society. It would it would serve us all well

2440
02:00:43,280 --> 02:00:45,520
Speaker 1: to be able to find common.

2441
02:00:45,520 --> 02:00:47,360
Speaker 2: But we have one common goal in the locker room

2442
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:48,560
Speaker 2: in society.

2443
02:00:48,640 --> 02:00:50,480
Speaker 1: Not everyone's in there. That's unfortunately have fun.

2444
02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:54,760
Speaker 2: That's unfortunately it's not having fun, it's winning at all cost.

2445
02:00:55,000 --> 02:00:56,520
Speaker 2: Thanks Bro, I appreciate you coming on.

2446
02:00:56,920 --> 02:00:57,640
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.

2447
02:01:00,960 --> 02:01:03,000
Speaker 2: Man, that was a great show.

2448
02:01:03,160 --> 02:01:05,560
Speaker 5: Slate is. You hear the stories about what a great

2449
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:07,280
Speaker 5: guy Slate is and then he lives up to it,

2450
02:01:07,360 --> 02:01:08,000
Speaker 5: and then some in.

2451
02:01:08,040 --> 02:01:12,320
Speaker 2: Person, Oh you feel the greatness when he enters a

2452
02:01:12,520 --> 02:01:15,400
Speaker 2: room of his just pure aura.

2453
02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:18,720
Speaker 5: I can see why any locker room just instantly gets

2454
02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:20,320
Speaker 5: bet any room, you.

2455
02:01:20,360 --> 02:01:24,240
Speaker 2: Know, And it's it's so crazy because we literally came in.

2456
02:01:24,600 --> 02:01:27,080
Speaker 2: He was a year a year in and I came in.

2457
02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:30,320
Speaker 2: You know, we were the slap dicks just sitting there

2458
02:01:30,440 --> 02:01:32,880
Speaker 2: like he was saying, like, are we gonna make the

2459
02:01:33,000 --> 02:01:37,880
Speaker 2: team too? You know, he's he's probably he's probably gonna

2460
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:39,720
Speaker 2: go in the Hall of Fame for being a special teamer.

2461
02:01:40,240 --> 02:01:42,680
Speaker 5: And I mean crazy to think he is the first

2462
02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:46,240
Speaker 5: father's on duo in there, captain, the captain, but.

2463
02:01:46,520 --> 02:01:48,080
Speaker 2: To play sixteen years?

2464
02:01:48,760 --> 02:01:49,920
Speaker 5: Do you think I wanted to ask him, but we

2465
02:01:49,960 --> 02:01:52,680
Speaker 5: didn't get a chance, Like do you think his career

2466
02:01:52,760 --> 02:01:55,000
Speaker 5: it was a unique career, an amazing career, would have

2467
02:01:55,040 --> 02:01:56,720
Speaker 5: been possible anywhere outside of New England.

2468
02:01:56,920 --> 02:01:59,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, probably just because of who he is.

2469
02:02:00,120 --> 02:02:02,280
Speaker 5: I think, so, you're right, But it's just like his

2470
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:05,480
Speaker 5: his spirit and the guy that he is in the

2471
02:02:05,560 --> 02:02:09,160
Speaker 5: toughness that he brings and paired with bills, coaching and

2472
02:02:09,200 --> 02:02:11,600
Speaker 5: love for special teams like I love it.

2473
02:02:12,040 --> 02:02:14,640
Speaker 2: No, I mean we we didn't even get into Scotty O'Brien,

2474
02:02:14,680 --> 02:02:17,160
Speaker 2: which I wish we did a little more. You know,

2475
02:02:17,280 --> 02:02:21,400
Speaker 2: for the first four years of my career, me and

2476
02:02:21,600 --> 02:02:25,760
Speaker 2: Slate at like five or thirty in the morning had

2477
02:02:25,800 --> 02:02:29,560
Speaker 2: to go in and meet with Scottio and he would

2478
02:02:29,640 --> 02:02:32,360
Speaker 2: basically give us the presentation of what he was going

2479
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:37,480
Speaker 2: to present to the team, the coaching points that everything

2480
02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:39,920
Speaker 2: we're going to install, that we're going to install this,

2481
02:02:41,160 --> 02:02:42,840
Speaker 2: and then we had to sit in. Me and Slate,

2482
02:02:43,640 --> 02:02:48,000
Speaker 2: we had to sit in every special team's unit, field goal,

2483
02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:51,200
Speaker 2: field goal, everything, just you know, and and hear it again.

2484
02:02:51,720 --> 02:02:52,760
Speaker 5: And you guys heard it first.

2485
02:02:52,840 --> 02:02:56,160
Speaker 2: Just the three half the time it'd be Scottio telling

2486
02:02:56,240 --> 02:02:58,280
Speaker 2: us we're going on the other halftime would be him

2487
02:02:58,320 --> 02:03:02,000
Speaker 2: talking about his boat and his big gas ranch and Wisconsin.

2488
02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:04,040
Speaker 5: Shoot.

2489
02:03:04,080 --> 02:03:06,520
Speaker 2: I got two million books in the bait now We're

2490
02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:08,560
Speaker 2: like two guys trying to make a team. Don't even

2491
02:03:08,600 --> 02:03:13,360
Speaker 2: have ten thousand dollars their name, Scottio at least flexing.

2492
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:16,400
Speaker 5: He's flexing. Oh my god, that's incredible. And to see

2493
02:03:17,000 --> 02:03:20,080
Speaker 5: the near the stories the Domino's pizza boxes as the

2494
02:03:20,160 --> 02:03:24,440
Speaker 5: dining room or the coffee table. And Shane, yeah, well

2495
02:03:24,520 --> 02:03:26,920
Speaker 5: next time he'll be on live show maybe show and

2496
02:03:27,000 --> 02:03:30,120
Speaker 5: then what's to be sick?

2497
02:03:30,160 --> 02:03:34,000
Speaker 8: What's great about slaves? Like so much in sports media discourse,

2498
02:03:34,360 --> 02:03:36,680
Speaker 8: there's a lot to talk about, like, oh the honesty

2499
02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:37,520
Speaker 8: was just all Brady.

2500
02:03:37,560 --> 02:03:38,120
Speaker 4: Bill sucks.

2501
02:03:38,120 --> 02:03:41,080
Speaker 8: It's all Bill this and like to win at such

2502
02:03:41,080 --> 02:03:43,640
Speaker 8: a high level for so long. It's a building filled

2503
02:03:43,680 --> 02:03:46,040
Speaker 8: with guys like Matthew Slater. Great, right, and you need

2504
02:03:46,120 --> 02:03:47,720
Speaker 8: to have all those teams. I'm sure the Chiefs have

2505
02:03:47,800 --> 02:03:50,200
Speaker 8: their own version. If you plugged into you'd find those guys.

2506
02:03:50,280 --> 02:03:52,800
Speaker 8: So that's how you win championships. Is a building full

2507
02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:54,840
Speaker 8: of guys like that. I don't know if there's another

2508
02:03:54,880 --> 02:03:56,760
Speaker 8: one like yeah, just as I was saying that he

2509
02:03:56,880 --> 02:03:57,400
Speaker 8: is one of them.

2510
02:03:57,520 --> 02:04:02,200
Speaker 2: There's another person that only play special teams and men

2511
02:04:02,320 --> 02:04:04,680
Speaker 2: on every phase look up to him the way people

2512
02:04:04,720 --> 02:04:05,120
Speaker 2: look up.

2513
02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:06,720
Speaker 5: To Slate the world to be a lot better place

2514
02:04:06,720 --> 02:04:07,880
Speaker 5: if there are more Slates in the world.

2515
02:04:08,440 --> 02:04:11,480
Speaker 2: He would, you know, Chris long over here, Oh you know,

2516
02:04:11,680 --> 02:04:14,160
Speaker 2: I'd love them with my wife and kid. Well, Slate's

2517
02:04:14,160 --> 02:04:17,800
Speaker 2: actually in my trust. If I go down, and there's

2518
02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:20,840
Speaker 2: a few other things that have to happen. Slate is

2519
02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:27,880
Speaker 2: holding court on everything in the papers signed him. I

2520
02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:30,480
Speaker 2: had to have the auditor, the guy with the what

2521
02:04:30,680 --> 02:04:34,920
Speaker 2: is it the notary notary notary say you at the

2522
02:04:35,000 --> 02:04:38,320
Speaker 2: house notary? What's it for? Yeah, just don't worry. Due

2523
02:04:38,320 --> 02:04:39,920
Speaker 2: you're gonna run my life if I die.

2524
02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:43,280
Speaker 8: So if you ever go down, that's the first place

2525
02:04:43,320 --> 02:04:45,920
Speaker 8: you look with slates number one.

2526
02:04:46,000 --> 02:04:49,080
Speaker 2: Well, no, there's like there's like, there's a couple, there's

2527
02:04:49,120 --> 02:04:52,640
Speaker 2: a couple, there's a there's a few different like let's

2528
02:04:52,680 --> 02:04:53,560
Speaker 2: not talk about.

2529
02:04:54,840 --> 02:04:58,720
Speaker 8: Democracy, all right, let's let's go to the hot linette.

2530
02:04:58,800 --> 02:04:59,240
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

2531
02:05:00,200 --> 02:05:04,840
Speaker 5: I being in that and again that number for two

2532
02:05:04,920 --> 02:05:08,360
Speaker 5: four zero for two four two.

2533
02:05:08,280 --> 02:05:11,560
Speaker 2: Nine one to two nine zero, Like you said, Yeah.

2534
02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:15,840
Speaker 13: I'm a fifteen year old from Massachuset. Fis wondering what

2535
02:05:16,040 --> 02:05:19,160
Speaker 13: advice to give to a sixteen year old get in

2536
02:05:19,280 --> 02:05:22,920
Speaker 13: high school. That only different introduce on a.

2537
02:05:24,520 --> 02:05:28,120
Speaker 2: Sixteen year old. Vice advice on and off the field,

2538
02:05:28,280 --> 02:05:35,000
Speaker 2: On and off the field, Ignore noise, you know, ignore noise.

2539
02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:37,760
Speaker 2: There's always gonna be someone that says you can't do

2540
02:05:37,960 --> 02:05:41,360
Speaker 2: something like if you read any book or you hear

2541
02:05:41,440 --> 02:05:43,960
Speaker 2: any story about anyone that got anywhere that they had

2542
02:05:43,960 --> 02:05:46,520
Speaker 2: to deal with it, even the greatest look at Tom Brady.

2543
02:05:47,080 --> 02:05:50,880
Speaker 2: Always be ready to learn, and be hungry to learn,

2544
02:05:51,400 --> 02:05:56,440
Speaker 2: and and give max effort. Always. You know, even if

2545
02:05:56,440 --> 02:05:58,960
Speaker 2: you're the stud on the team, don't be the guy

2546
02:05:59,080 --> 02:06:03,720
Speaker 2: that runs this friends and doesn't take it serious because

2547
02:06:03,960 --> 02:06:06,240
Speaker 2: you know you could throw the best on the team,

2548
02:06:07,080 --> 02:06:09,200
Speaker 2: or you know, you want to be that guy like

2549
02:06:09,280 --> 02:06:12,480
Speaker 2: a Matthew Slater that you know is the badass on

2550
02:06:12,560 --> 02:06:15,120
Speaker 2: the team wins in the off season. Always, you know,

2551
02:06:15,200 --> 02:06:16,720
Speaker 2: that's the kind of guy you want to be. And

2552
02:06:17,200 --> 02:06:19,600
Speaker 2: and you'll go you'll go further, and it'll it'll help

2553
02:06:19,640 --> 02:06:22,400
Speaker 2: you in life. That's what I would say. That's that's

2554
02:06:22,480 --> 02:06:26,160
Speaker 2: good lifelong advice, best for retirement. Now compound interest.

2555
02:06:26,480 --> 02:06:30,680
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, start a TikTok accounting being TikToker.

2556
02:06:31,640 --> 02:06:36,840
Speaker 10: Hey Jules, it's Boston taxi. Remember you was going home

2557
02:06:37,560 --> 02:06:42,400
Speaker 10: on your skateboard, on your motorized skateboard, and you took.

2558
02:06:42,320 --> 02:06:44,480
Speaker 7: That live turn around the corner of that blind corner

2559
02:06:45,280 --> 02:06:48,000
Speaker 7: you met my cav almost ran in your ass over

2560
02:06:48,840 --> 02:06:50,160
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. We dapted out and all

2561
02:06:50,200 --> 02:06:53,360
Speaker 7: that ship. It was that same season you got popped

2562
02:06:53,400 --> 02:06:57,560
Speaker 7: for you know, you know. But yeah, man, good to

2563
02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:00,280
Speaker 7: you know, check in on you to see how you doing.

2564
02:07:01,400 --> 02:07:03,560
Speaker 7: The look on the future and all that.

2565
02:07:03,760 --> 02:07:06,800
Speaker 2: Man, give me back Boston Taxi.

2566
02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:08,520
Speaker 5: I do remember that.

2567
02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:09,880
Speaker 9: I do.

2568
02:07:10,600 --> 02:07:14,480
Speaker 2: I was hitting this turn all my little motorized thing

2569
02:07:14,600 --> 02:07:16,760
Speaker 2: and he was coming I think it was Dartmouth or something,

2570
02:07:16,800 --> 02:07:19,280
Speaker 2: and it was a back alley of back bay or something.

2571
02:07:20,320 --> 02:07:23,520
Speaker 2: And he goes and I stop and he stopped and

2572
02:07:23,640 --> 02:07:26,520
Speaker 2: I went and I hit his cab. He looked at

2573
02:07:26,520 --> 02:07:28,720
Speaker 2: each other, He looked at me. I looked at him

2574
02:07:29,800 --> 02:07:31,840
Speaker 2: and I just said, oh, thank god, we didn't get that.

2575
02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:34,880
Speaker 2: And He's like, we tapped up and went on my way.

2576
02:07:35,120 --> 02:07:35,960
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

2577
02:07:36,320 --> 02:07:37,400
Speaker 5: You remember that for all these years.

2578
02:07:37,440 --> 02:07:37,800
Speaker 1: I love that.

2579
02:07:38,400 --> 02:07:38,800
Speaker 5: Check it in.

2580
02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:40,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was crazy.

2581
02:07:41,080 --> 02:07:43,640
Speaker 5: I'm good, bro, you used to fly on that thing.

2582
02:07:43,920 --> 02:07:44,080
Speaker 2: Fly.

2583
02:07:45,560 --> 02:07:47,680
Speaker 5: I'll tell I'll tell coach that.

2584
02:07:49,320 --> 02:07:52,320
Speaker 1: What I'm wondering, what your favorite team.

2585
02:07:52,240 --> 02:07:52,800
Speaker 7: Was to play.

2586
02:07:54,560 --> 02:07:59,520
Speaker 2: Favorite team to play probably how it honestly comes down

2587
02:07:59,600 --> 02:08:04,120
Speaker 2: to three, it would either be the Jets, Baltimore or

2588
02:08:04,200 --> 02:08:08,960
Speaker 2: Kansas City Jets, because you know, anytime it was Boston

2589
02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:12,080
Speaker 2: New York, it was always big. There's that rivalry.

2590
02:08:12,440 --> 02:08:13,120
Speaker 5: We usually won.

2591
02:08:13,560 --> 02:08:16,480
Speaker 2: We usually won. I usually had a lot of good stats,

2592
02:08:17,280 --> 02:08:19,320
Speaker 2: but no, like I loved going to New York and

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02:08:19,400 --> 02:08:21,680
Speaker 2: playing because you you know, you feel like you're you're

2594
02:08:21,800 --> 02:08:25,360
Speaker 2: driving in from New Jersey and you see the skyline

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02:08:25,360 --> 02:08:27,920
Speaker 2: in the city. It was just always a crazy Billy

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02:08:28,000 --> 02:08:32,120
Speaker 2: Joel Billy Jowels on the headphones. You know, just it

2597
02:08:32,280 --> 02:08:35,720
Speaker 2: was always fun. Kansas City because I remember playing them

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02:08:35,800 --> 02:08:38,640
Speaker 2: before they had Patrick. It was always, you know, a

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02:08:38,760 --> 02:08:42,240
Speaker 2: tough game. They always had like some really good football

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02:08:42,360 --> 02:08:46,720
Speaker 2: players in those and and years against you know, Mahomes

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02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:50,040
Speaker 2: and Kelsey. It's just they were the young gun team

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02:08:50,120 --> 02:08:52,440
Speaker 2: and we were like the old Vets. So like you

2603
02:08:52,520 --> 02:08:56,120
Speaker 2: always like stacking up against, you know, the best teams.

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02:08:56,120 --> 02:08:58,280
Speaker 2: And the Baltimore it was always a physical game. We

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02:08:58,360 --> 02:09:00,960
Speaker 2: played them so much in my early in my career,

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02:09:01,120 --> 02:09:04,360
Speaker 2: middle of my career in the playoffs, in the regular season.

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02:09:05,480 --> 02:09:08,520
Speaker 2: Always had a lot of respect for their players. You know,

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02:09:08,600 --> 02:09:11,640
Speaker 2: they came into our house and whipped our ass. You know,

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02:09:11,840 --> 02:09:14,800
Speaker 2: a couple of times you felt Baltimore. When you went

2610
02:09:14,840 --> 02:09:17,480
Speaker 2: to Baltimore. You got ray Lewis doing the war dance

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02:09:17,560 --> 02:09:19,080
Speaker 2: I did. I played against him when he was doing

2612
02:09:19,120 --> 02:09:22,320
Speaker 2: war dance, you know, on the team, and then every

2613
02:09:22,400 --> 02:09:24,600
Speaker 2: time we played and he didn't play, he was doing

2614
02:09:24,720 --> 02:09:26,800
Speaker 2: war dance, coming out.

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02:09:26,680 --> 02:09:29,880
Speaker 5: To smoke Ian, that whole thing. It's just fun.

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02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:32,800
Speaker 2: I liked playing in the competitive games, and then the

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02:09:32,920 --> 02:09:36,240
Speaker 2: Jets that's you know that that's one of our arrivals.

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02:09:36,320 --> 02:09:38,400
Speaker 2: So those those were the fun games I remember.

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02:09:38,800 --> 02:09:45,440
Speaker 9: But November twenty twenty twenty two, Jillette Stadium, Foxborough, Massachusetts,

2620
02:09:45,960 --> 02:09:49,640
Speaker 9: just visiting the Patriots, all time three to three after

2621
02:09:49,800 --> 02:09:53,760
Speaker 9: fifty nine and a half minutes, looking like overtime. Brayden

2622
02:09:53,840 --> 02:09:56,520
Speaker 9: Man squares up to kick the seventeenth punt of the game,

2623
02:09:57,160 --> 02:09:59,480
Speaker 9: but he left the ball over the middle of the field.

2624
02:10:00,280 --> 02:10:04,120
Speaker 9: Marcus Jones catches it starts to run back. This is

2625
02:10:04,600 --> 02:10:08,040
Speaker 9: the Marcus Jones game, Julian, This is Joe from Lynn

2626
02:10:08,200 --> 02:10:12,040
Speaker 9: Mass I was at this game. Even though it's stunk,

2627
02:10:13,200 --> 02:10:15,000
Speaker 9: it can be saved. A game can be saved. By

2628
02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:19,080
Speaker 9: a single play. The stadium was absolutely hyped after this.

2629
02:10:19,960 --> 02:10:23,120
Speaker 9: Me and my brother were their love the podcast. Everything

2630
02:10:23,160 --> 02:10:25,520
Speaker 9: You're do and keep it up, Bro, I like it.

2631
02:10:25,920 --> 02:10:29,600
Speaker 2: That was a great intro, great intro, love the guy,

2632
02:10:29,960 --> 02:10:32,080
Speaker 2: but absolute shit game.

2633
02:10:32,160 --> 02:10:34,160
Speaker 1: If we ever do this game, it's over.

2634
02:10:34,760 --> 02:10:37,000
Speaker 2: I mean he even said it's stunk.

2635
02:10:37,280 --> 02:10:37,920
Speaker 5: It's stunk.

2636
02:10:38,280 --> 02:10:38,760
Speaker 2: He was there.

2637
02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:39,480
Speaker 1: He was there.

2638
02:10:40,120 --> 02:10:44,320
Speaker 2: Lynn Mass stand up, Yeah, baby, stand up. That's a

2639
02:10:44,400 --> 02:10:45,520
Speaker 2: great That was a great calling.

2640
02:10:45,640 --> 02:10:48,200
Speaker 5: That was awesome. Great play by Marcus Jones.

2641
02:10:48,680 --> 02:10:52,200
Speaker 2: That was kind of maybe a joke joking. It's a

2642
02:10:52,240 --> 02:10:54,040
Speaker 2: good sense of humor meaning it was. I mean, he

2643
02:10:54,120 --> 02:10:59,440
Speaker 2: pulled it off. He played it straight. Rocky down boy heal. Sorry.

2644
02:11:00,040 --> 02:11:02,200
Speaker 5: It's fitting that we talk about a terrible game with

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02:11:02,280 --> 02:11:04,240
Speaker 5: a great special teams play in this episode.

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02:11:05,480 --> 02:11:09,400
Speaker 12: Jewels, I gotta know, Bro, I'm a die hard Raider fan.

2647
02:11:10,680 --> 02:11:14,560
Speaker 12: I just want you to admit on air for me,

2648
02:11:15,040 --> 02:11:15,640
Speaker 12: in all.

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02:11:15,640 --> 02:11:22,040
Speaker 7: Raider nations, please admit that that was a fumble.

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02:11:23,240 --> 02:11:27,120
Speaker 2: Love the content, Bro, he's talking Brady, He's.

2651
02:11:27,000 --> 02:11:32,800
Speaker 4: Gotta be talking about the Mac Jones, No, Kobe Myers.

2652
02:11:33,280 --> 02:11:34,320
Speaker 4: It has to be that right.

2653
02:11:34,960 --> 02:11:37,720
Speaker 5: Oh my god. The Debacle in the Desert, the annex.

2654
02:11:37,440 --> 02:11:41,480
Speaker 4: Section of where we go, he's he's talking about Charles Winson.

2655
02:11:42,000 --> 02:11:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course that was a fumble in the book,

2656
02:11:47,720 --> 02:11:52,280
Speaker 2: the rings already out boys, regardless of it was a fumble.

2657
02:11:52,760 --> 02:11:54,720
Speaker 1: What doesn't get talked enough with that game is the

2658
02:11:54,800 --> 02:11:56,840
Speaker 1: two field goals Terry.

2659
02:11:57,200 --> 02:11:58,360
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it was insane.

2660
02:11:58,920 --> 02:12:02,720
Speaker 5: Any intentional for movement of his arm starts a forward pass,

2661
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:05,400
Speaker 5: even if the player loses possession of the ball as

2662
02:12:05,480 --> 02:12:08,080
Speaker 5: he's attempting to tug it back towards his body. It

2663
02:12:08,160 --> 02:12:09,240
Speaker 5: was in the rule book at the book.

2664
02:12:09,440 --> 02:12:11,280
Speaker 4: What else do you want? It's a bad book.

2665
02:12:11,680 --> 02:12:13,960
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's been changed since you can only play

2666
02:12:14,000 --> 02:12:16,800
Speaker 5: the rules as they play. Amen. That might have been

2667
02:12:16,840 --> 02:12:21,640
Speaker 5: John Gruden putting on a voice calling in still salty

2668
02:12:21,680 --> 02:12:22,080
Speaker 5: over that one.

2669
02:12:22,560 --> 02:12:25,480
Speaker 2: He's probably salty over a lot of things. Well, what

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02:12:25,680 --> 02:12:29,400
Speaker 2: an episode and thanks again to Slate. That's been another

2671
02:12:29,480 --> 02:12:33,400
Speaker 2: great episode of Games with Names, presented by Win Las

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02:12:33,520 --> 02:12:39,520
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2673
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02:12:48,800 --> 02:12:54,800
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2677
02:13:01,320 --> 02:13:03,880
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2680
02:13:12,200 --> 02:13:16,880
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