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Speaker 1: contested catch down the field, because that's what he proved

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Speaker 1: that he did in Cincinnati. He showed that in his

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Speaker 1: rookie season. So I want to see more explosiveness out

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Speaker 1: of Alec Pierce just by creativity and design from whoever

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Speaker 1: coordinates this offense. Matt Taylor Boys, the Colts, JJ Stankovits

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Speaker 1: Colts dot Com senior writers, guys, I want to talk

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Speaker 1: the tight end room. Okay, the tight end room, Jilanni Woods,

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Speaker 1: we're talking that rookie report, but you guys can kind

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Speaker 1: of dovetail into the other ones. Mo Aali Cox has

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Speaker 1: been here a few years. We don't know what we

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Speaker 1: have in Drew Drink Kylan Grantson's a fun one to

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Speaker 1: watch sometimes. Where are we at laid off with Jilanni Woods, JJ,

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Speaker 1: and where we having the guys that follow behind? So

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Speaker 1: Gilanni's receiving production was what it was. You know, it

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Speaker 1: was pretty typical for a rookie tight end. Twenty five catches,

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Speaker 1: three hundred and twelve yards, three touchdowns over the last

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Speaker 1: I pulled this up over the last fifty four tight

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Speaker 1: ends drafted in the first hundred picks of the last

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Speaker 1: ten NFL drafts. Whatever that's a word, salad. Just know

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Speaker 1: that on average, highly picked rookie tight ends usually have

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Speaker 1: about twenty two catches, three hundred and fifty yards two

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Speaker 1: touchdowns as rookie, So Gilanni right in that range. The

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Speaker 1: biggest thing with Jilani is something that Rick vent Urry

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Speaker 1: said is that he's a willing blocker, and the Colts

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Speaker 1: envision Jilanni is being that inline y tight end, which

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Speaker 1: is something that you know, that's where Jack Doyle made

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Speaker 1: his money as that that inline guy who can be

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Speaker 1: a receiving threat, who can be a blocker. I think

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Speaker 1: Jilani's got quite a bit of receiving upside. If the

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Speaker 1: blocking comes along, Cults are gonna have quite a good

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Speaker 1: player right there. Jilani's got like thirty five inch arms.

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Speaker 1: He's got like left tackle sized arms um and he's

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Speaker 1: got to work on you know, figuring out how to

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Speaker 1: maneuver that as the inline guy. But just the fact again, Mattey,

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Speaker 1: that that Rick said he's willing to me that that's

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Speaker 1: all you need as a rookie tight end. Just be

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Speaker 1: willing the technique and the strength will come as long

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Speaker 1: as yes, right, No, I mean, if the question is,

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Speaker 1: is Jilanni Woods the biggest tight end threat the Colts

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Speaker 1: have going in the next season, absolutely, unquestionably yes. And

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Speaker 1: I know Drew Ogletree is coming back, and there was

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Speaker 1: being comfortable and making plays and just being a big

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Speaker 1: dynamic threat within the offense. But you know what, that

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Speaker 1: was training camp. That was a couple of weeks, and

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Speaker 1: Gilanni Woods did it pretty consistently over the course of

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Speaker 1: his entire rookie season. Now with that, there was a

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Speaker 1: lot of caveats to it, right, he was dealing with

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Speaker 1: a shoulder injury for a couple of weeks. He fell

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Speaker 1: victim to I think all of the upheaval along the offense,

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Speaker 1: just like every other skill player within this group. But again,

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Speaker 1: I say the same thing about Gilanni Woods that I did.

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Speaker 1: Alec Pierce, I want to find more creative ways to

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Speaker 1: get him involved, not just inside the red zone where

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Speaker 1: he was a major threat last year. I mean, all

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Speaker 1: of his touchdowns came inside the twenty yard line. But

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Speaker 1: I want to see just more yards per catching this offense.

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Speaker 1: And I think the two guys that you have to

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Speaker 1: get involved in that regard next season, not because of

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Speaker 1: their growth, but because of the health of the offense

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Speaker 1: order for it to work are Alec Pearson Gelanni Woods.

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Speaker 1: Hands down, those two guys have to be the biggest threats,

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Speaker 1: you know, vertical passing game wise for the Colts next

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Speaker 1: year to succeed to be have to be and have

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Speaker 1: to be in the blocking line as well. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about Kelsey This for another show and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that, but those real athletic tight ends and stuff,

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Speaker 1: what are their blocking percentages? You know? What are those

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Speaker 1: guys Kelsey Nunn? Yeah? Maybe che split out is the ax.

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Speaker 1: So I'm saying, like these Ogletree and Johnnie Woods type

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Speaker 1: of all players that are huge targets, but they run

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Speaker 1: like the wind, you know, are these guys like Matt says, Hey,

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Speaker 1: he's getting to be a better blocker, like you said,

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. Is it needed? Yeah, it is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: George Kittle is one of the best blocking tight ends

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, and he's also one of the best

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Speaker 1: receiving tight ends in the NFL, especially when you have

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. That's true, right, It's true. Well done. I

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Speaker 1: like it. I like where we're at when the in

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Speaker 1: the tight end room. Right now, as far as the

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Speaker 1: youngsters go, okay, let's talk on the defensive side, Mattee.

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Speaker 1: Starting with you. Rodney Thomas, the second, the seventh rounder

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Speaker 1: out of Yale. You heard that right, The seventh rounder

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Speaker 1: out of Yale went on to start ten games and

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Speaker 1: record a team by four interceptions, the most by a

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Speaker 1: rookie draft a number two hundred overall or later since

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two. So the young man had an impact

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Speaker 1: in his first year. His four interceptions were the most

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Speaker 1: by a Colt since Jason David Coults rookie rights rookie, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: since Jason David Rather in two thousand and four. Guys,

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Speaker 1: let me know what's going on with Rodney Thomas. Let

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Speaker 1: me know what's going on with Nick Cross, who was

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Speaker 1: also a guy that they moved up to to get

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Speaker 1: that's playing in the same position. We thought we'd see

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Speaker 1: a lot more Nick Cross this year, we ended up

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Speaker 1: seeing a lot of Rodney Thomas. Yeah, this one's fascinating

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Speaker 1: because of the Nick Cross component, because the Colts moved

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Speaker 1: up high in the draft to get him, and that's big,

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Speaker 1: especially this year when you could be looking at giving

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Speaker 1: write if you want to move up in the draft,

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Speaker 1: I mean having that third round pick this year, that

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Speaker 1: would have been good, but you gave that up last

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Speaker 1: year to grab Nick Cross. So they obviously feel really

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Speaker 1: really they're intrigued with his potential and what he can be.

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Speaker 1: But it was interesting last year he was getting all

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Speaker 1: of games of the season, and then really he was

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Speaker 1: just you know, we're gonna cool the Jets on you.

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Speaker 1: Maybe this is a little bit too much on your

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Speaker 1: right away. From a mental side of things, he became

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Speaker 1: really entrenched in the special team's game. So he's a

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Speaker 1: really good player by no means where the Colts just

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Speaker 1: sort of giving up on him in terms of what

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Speaker 1: he can be. So I think it's more of a

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Speaker 1: at a boy for Rodney Thomas more so than a

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Speaker 1: demotion for Nick Cross. But I don't I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's any reason you go into the offseason workout program

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Speaker 1: and you say Ronnie Thomas is not part of that

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Speaker 1: starting lineup mixture because he played He played that well.

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Speaker 1: I mean he did. And the range that an instincts

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Speaker 1: that Rodney Thomas showed at that free safety position in

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Speaker 1: Gus Bradley's defense were incredible. This is a guy, by

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Speaker 1: the way, who I was going back and I was like,

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Speaker 1: where did Rodney Thomas rank last year? You know by it,

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Speaker 1: but we didn't even know if he was a linebacker

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Speaker 1: or our corner or a safe. Yeah, And so I

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Speaker 1: pulled up the from the athletic Dane Bruglert, for my money,

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Speaker 1: one of the best two draft analysts out there, him

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Speaker 1: and Lands zero Line. And he does the beast. It's

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Speaker 1: his he does. He ranks thousands of players in every draft.

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Speaker 1: He had Rodney Thomas ranked as the one hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty eighth linebacker out of one hundred and ninety draft

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Speaker 1: eligible linebackers one hundred and fifty eight. Again, just at linebacker,

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Speaker 1: there are like two hundred and sixty one picks in

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Speaker 1: the draft, and I mean this, this guy was so

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Speaker 1: far off the radar and Colts draft him and turns

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Speaker 1: out to be a great rookie safety. It's incredible. It's

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Speaker 1: a great game starting for Yeah. Seventh said you're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: is he gonna make the team? When we're up? Well,

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Speaker 1: because I remember, we didn't know. Yeah, you're right, we

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Speaker 1: didn't know if he was gonna make the team. It

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Speaker 1: was only when our money Watts suffered a season ending

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Speaker 1: injury in the Colts final preseason game that was like, oh, yess,

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Speaker 1: Rodney Thomas is gonna make the team. It wasn't like,

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Speaker 1: you know, he looked good, but it would have been like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: if he winds up on the practice squad, that would

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Speaker 1: make some sense. And he wound up on the team.

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Speaker 1: He comes in Week three and that play, the one

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Speaker 1: that sticks out to me was he comes into that

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Speaker 1: game against the Chiefs and in the second quarter, Mahomes

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Speaker 1: steps up in the pocket. He does that Mahomes thing

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Speaker 1: where he just rips one down the field. He's targeting

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Speaker 1: Justin Watson. Ronnie Thomas covers about twenty five yards just

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Speaker 1: you know, field to boundary and he swats that pass away.

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Speaker 1: It didn't count because there was a holding penalty on

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Speaker 1: it on the on the Chiefs. But I remember, like, I'm,

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Speaker 1: you know, doing the PA up there, and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, look at this like covered some ground. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And then in that game, you you would think that

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Speaker 1: if a rookie safety you didn't know what the heck

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Speaker 1: he was doing was out there, that Mahomes in that

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Speaker 1: offense would have been just throwing flamethrowers at him the

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Speaker 1: whole game. Seventeen points for the Chiefs, the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: bound Chiefs. That is the fewest points they scored in

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Speaker 1: a game this season. If they do have a Rookie

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Speaker 1: of the Year, he would be it here, wouldn't he?

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Speaker 1: What do you think? I mean, just what you think

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Speaker 1: of impact in our production? And I think I don't

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Speaker 1: know if this is fair or not, but just sort

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Speaker 1: of exceeding all expectation. Yea. So he is literally the

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Speaker 1: last draft pick I got. I got the question in

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Speaker 1: a mail bag recently. Was Rodney Thomas the biggest steal

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Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty two draft. I think most people

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Speaker 1: are gonna go with Brock Purty on that one. But

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Speaker 1: you can make a case Rodney Thomas would be right

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Speaker 1: up there. Tarik wool In, the cornerback for the Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: would be right up there. But that's some good company

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Speaker 1: to be in. If, hey, we're talking about you, is

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Speaker 1: the number two thirty nine overall pick being a steal

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Speaker 1: because you started ten games and you led your team

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Speaker 1: in interceptions? That's an awfully good isn't a classic case

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Speaker 1: of just get the foot in the door, man, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just get the foot in the door, doesn't matter. Wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Well done there, young man. Well done, Rodney Thomas the second.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, we're gonna float around the NFL a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Talks to the Super Bowl, talk to some gambling. First,

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Speaker 1: we got the big game coming up in under two weeks.

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Speaker 1: With the man Frank Schwab from Yahoo Sports. Frank, what

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Speaker 1: do you think that line shifted a bit? It really did.

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Speaker 1: It was kind of strange. It came out, you know,

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Speaker 1: Chiefs were I think one and a half point favorites,

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Speaker 1: and within ninety seconds that was on the move and

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Speaker 1: the Eagles became favored. That went from Eagles minus one

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Speaker 1: and a half Eagles minus two and a half. Just

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Speaker 1: all the money early on pouring in on the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: It's set a little little bit. I believe it's still

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Speaker 1: at minus two this morning. I haven't checked, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: Eagles small favorite's still under a field goal, so you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're still telling you that they think this

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Speaker 1: one's going to be close. But yeah, I was honestly

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Speaker 1: kind of surprised that so much of the early that's

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Speaker 1: from the Eagles. For sure. Let's talk about one side,

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Speaker 1: then we'll shifted the other in a minute. Nick Siriani's

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Speaker 1: known around here in Indianapolis, offensive coordinator for the Colts

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Speaker 1: for a while. Now he's got this championship caliber team

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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. I'd say this arguably eighteen months ago, Frank,

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Speaker 1: that was the worst roster in the NFL. Tell me

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Speaker 1: about the turnaround. I mean they just Howie Roseman is

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Speaker 1: just on a heck of a job, hasn't he. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if if you're talking about yeah, I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 1: nobody cares about the Executive of the Year or nobody

641
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Speaker 1: really remembers who won it, but he'd win a unanimous

642
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Speaker 1: this year. He's the Philly GF. Howie Roseman has just

643
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: done such an incredible job. I mean, remember, you know,

644
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Speaker 1: this team won a Super Bowl five years ago with

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Speaker 1: a different coach, from different quarterback, and mostly a different roster.

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Speaker 1: It's remarkable how they remade it. And then everything you

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Speaker 1: touched hern to gold. In the offseason. You signed Son

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Speaker 1: Reddick to a reasonable deal for a top pass rusher

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Speaker 1: and he's, you know, probably the best free agent signing

650
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Speaker 1: of the offseason. You trade for a J. Brown when

651
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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans kind of misread the receiver market. He's

652
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Speaker 1: become a bona fide Number one and just transformed their offense.

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Speaker 1: You get Javis Bradberry to come to you on a

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Speaker 1: one year deal after Giants could afford to keep him.

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Speaker 1: He's been a top twenty cornerback in the league. Just

656
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Speaker 1: everything they've done has been great. He's just on a roll.

657
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Speaker 1: He's just on a heater right now. They've done a

658
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Speaker 1: great job building that roster. It's it's the Deevins roster

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, I think, clearly. And you know, and

660
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Speaker 1: they still have draft ammunition coming up. I mean, this

661
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Speaker 1: could be a a pretty long term thing for the Eagles,

662
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Speaker 1: being one of the elite teams in the NFL. They've

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Speaker 1: They've had a tremendous season. They're going to have tremendous

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Speaker 1: seasons to come. It's a testament to what they've done

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Speaker 1: in the front office. Just you're a just amazing the

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Speaker 1: way they've transformed their roster at a short time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's Frank Schwab with us. You kind of answer my

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Speaker 1: next question where I wanted to go with you, Frank.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jeffrey talked about Nick Sirian. I mean we

670
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Speaker 1: saw him every day for three years. Jalen Hurts is playing,

671
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Speaker 1: you know, very very good right now. I mean they

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Speaker 1: seem like a team that is built for success, but

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Speaker 1: sustainability wise, I mean, do you think they're there? Are

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Speaker 1: they built to be sort of that powerhouse in the

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Speaker 1: NFC for years to come? In your opinion, I think so.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he guys are the NFL goes though.

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Speaker 1: I mean three years in the NFL's a lifetime. It

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Speaker 1: seems like now, I mean, everything changes over so quickly.

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Speaker 1: But the key is going to be what they do

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Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts. I think everybody you know, appreciated respected

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Speaker 1: what Hurts did this season. He probably stuck atn MVP,

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Speaker 1: maybe third behind Borrow, but you know a top three

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Speaker 1: MVP finish, right, well, now you got to pay him.

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Speaker 1: He I remember, you know, I wrote it in a

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Speaker 1: preview for the Eagles this year, and I just had

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Speaker 1: seen it. I'll get the numbers wrong a little bit,

687
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Speaker 1: but I think his cap hit this year was like

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Speaker 1: one point six million. It was. It was like one

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Speaker 1: twenty first of what Ryan Tannehill's cap hit was. And

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Speaker 1: so once you got to pay that quarterback, all of

691
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Speaker 1: some things change. You can't go getting a j Brown anymore.

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Speaker 1: You can't go sign on Hassan Reddick. You got to

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Speaker 1: pay that quarterback. Unless the Eagles decide we're not going

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Speaker 1: to pay Jalen Rose. I helt that's the case. But

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Speaker 1: some team is going to look at the landscape. I

696
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Speaker 1: think we would all agree. The biggest advantage you can

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Speaker 1: have in the NFL, probably the biggest advantage in sports,

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Speaker 1: is having a good quarterback on his rookie deal, because

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Speaker 1: then you could just buy up everything else on your roster. Right,

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Speaker 1: no team does really leverage that beyond one rookie deal.

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Speaker 1: Though no team has said, hey, Jayleen, we've had fun,

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Speaker 1: you were awesome, we appreciate it. We are not going

703
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Speaker 1: to pay you forty million dollars a year because we

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Speaker 1: just camp build a championship roster doing that. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: go find our next Jalen Hurts in the draft and

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Speaker 1: then start this whole process again. Nobody has done that.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's had the job security to do it, and nobody's

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Speaker 1: had the kind of the courage to do it either.

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Speaker 1: So it's going to be very interesting. I doubt the

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Speaker 1: Eagles or that team just because I don't know if

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Speaker 1: we're going to see it for a while because there's

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Speaker 1: just so much fear of the unknown at quarterback. But

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Speaker 1: it's going to be a really interesting thing to see

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Speaker 1: if they can maintain this whatever happens with Jalen Hurts basically,

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Speaker 1: once they have to come to the table and either

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Speaker 1: decide on a long term deal or decide to start

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Speaker 1: it all over again. Kid's a great story that is

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Speaker 1: Frank Schwab Follow him on Twitter. You like football, do

719
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Speaker 1: yourself a favor. Follow Frank Schwab at Yahoo schwab okay.

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Speaker 1: On the flip side, Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes history making

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Speaker 1: quick questions, saw it on social media? Want to throw

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Speaker 1: it by in Then you can talk about the job

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Speaker 1: that Andy Reid's done. If this game goes down to

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes winning the Super Bowl and walking off the

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Speaker 1: field and waving to the crowd saying I am done

726
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Speaker 1: playing the game of football. Is the Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: I mean, first ballot, unanimous waved the five year period.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how many quarterbacks would we see in an

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Speaker 1: NFL history better than Patrick Mahomes. I don't care it's five.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't care, Like I don't need

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Speaker 1: to see any more of Patrick Mahomes to tell you

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Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Famer. If if you're still on defense,

733
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Speaker 1: if you're going into the Super Bowl, like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I just haven't seen enough of Patrick Mahomes and talents,

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Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Famer that you need to watch more.

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Speaker 1: Football is what happens. Like he is, you know, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have Brady's resume or even Montana always resume. You

738
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Speaker 1: haven't played long enough. But we're just talking talent and

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00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks I've ever seen play the game. You

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Speaker 1: only get past number three, four, Like, I mean, he's

741
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Speaker 1: that good, that talented. He's gonna win a second MVP.

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Speaker 1: He's been to five straight AFC championship games, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, his five years are it's pretty unbelievable when

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Speaker 1: you think about it that they've had three Super Bowls

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Speaker 1: and two overtime losses in the AC Championship Game. Like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, just unbelievable run. He's on. He great. He

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Speaker 1: is already a Hall of Famer in my book. I

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Speaker 1: don't care if if he doesn't, you know, if he

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Speaker 1: retires before a Super Bowl, he's a Hall of Famer

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Speaker 1: to me. I just I think he's he's just he's

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Speaker 1: on that rare level of athlete that I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: in my life. And I'm talking all sports. I'm talking Gretzky, Jordan,

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Speaker 1: whoever you want to put him there, He's just that guy.

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Speaker 1: And for him to play like he did in the

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Speaker 1: AC Championship Game, bad ankle. His receivers are getting hurt

756
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: left and right, and the receivers aren't even that good anyway,

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Speaker 1: it was just remarkable. It was remarkable to watch him

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Speaker 1: perform like that. That's what I wanted to you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to interrupted you're losing the likes of Tyreek

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Speaker 1: Hill and what he is, a Pro Bowl, All Pro guy.

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Speaker 1: A lot of yards chewed up a lot of receptions

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Speaker 1: and then to do what they did with a couple

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Speaker 1: of guys you go, wait, wait, wait, wait wait wearing

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Speaker 1: the same number. What's his name? Who is that? I mean,

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Speaker 1: how about the job Andy Reid's done with this offense.

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Speaker 1: Oh and Andy Read's unbelievable too. I mean he's I'm

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Speaker 1: glad he won the one Super Bowl because that just

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Speaker 1: changes the whole narrative. He's no longer the best never

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Speaker 1: to win. He's a Hall of Famer now, Like I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's any question about that. He's one of

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Speaker 1: the great coaches of our era, of any era really.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean you look, I was one of

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Speaker 1: those guys, go back, you could go back, it's out there.

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Speaker 1: I was doubting the Chiefs. I was one of those

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Speaker 1: people saying, no, the Charger's gonna win the division. She's

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Speaker 1: gonna take a step back. No, Tyreek Hill. They didn't

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Speaker 1: really do anything in the offseason, and it just doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter because they have this Hall Fame coach in this

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback. It's it's remarkable. Really, I mean,

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Speaker 1: every other team that got a number one receiver their offense,

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Speaker 1: I guess it said the Raiders, but their offense got

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Speaker 1: this huge bump that they played well. The quarterbacks played well.

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Speaker 1: We all talk about how much Tua came along because

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Speaker 1: he had Tyreek Hill, how much Jalen Hurts came along

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Speaker 1: because he had a j Brown. We don't talk enough

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00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: about Petro Hall's lost Tyreek Hill. And then set a

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Speaker 1: record for combined rushing yards and passing yards in a season.

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Speaker 1: I know it's the seventeenth game, but who cares. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just unbelievable. You just it's just you look at these

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Speaker 1: two teams in the difference in team building, like the construction.

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Speaker 1: He got one team that has this unbelievable roster with

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Speaker 1: a I think a good quarterback. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: anybody thinks he's just singularly elite and Jalen Hurts, and

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Speaker 1: then he got a team that's just, hey, we have

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Speaker 1: the best head coach, quarterback combo in the game, one

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Speaker 1: of the greatest combos ever. Our roster is not that good,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter because we got these two dudes.

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Speaker 1: We're going to figure out a way to beat you,

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Speaker 1: and no doubt about that. That's Frank Schwab NFL Insider

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Speaker 1: from Yahoo's sports coming in, you know locally, Frank with

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Speaker 1: the Colts, just curious you're your national perspective on their situation.

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00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: I know they've got a lot of uncertainty right now

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Speaker 1: with you know, their ongoing head coaching search, and you

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Speaker 1: know they're picking high in the draft and so they

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Speaker 1: might be going after that young franchise quarterback. I'm interested.

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Speaker 1: What is attractive to you about the Colts if you

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Speaker 1: are a head coaching candidate right now in the NFL. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think that the Colts who have a good roster.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I think I'm win the AFC South

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Speaker 1: last season. I didn't realize Matt and Ryan was going

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Speaker 1: to fall and everything was gonna snowball and them like

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Speaker 1: it did they There are pieces for sure, I mean

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Speaker 1: you look at it them compared to a team like

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Speaker 1: the Texans, which surprisingly, even though they've had a terrible,

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Speaker 1: terrible record, they haven't really for after them any stars.

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Speaker 1: Like there's not much talent on that roster, but the

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Speaker 1: Colts do have talent um. I just want you know

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Speaker 1: throughout I'm a Wisconsin alum, so I've I've seen Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Taylor play a lot. He's unbelievable. Guys, like that. Guys like,

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Speaker 1: obviously Quentin Nelson's gonna bounce back, I think, But it's man,

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Speaker 1: it's hard. From a national perspective, all we're doing is

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Speaker 1: watching and saying, Jim Mercy really gonna hire Just Saturday? Really?

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Speaker 1: I mean to go to Yeah, they got to win

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Speaker 1: against Raiders, and then I think, go and seven the

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Speaker 1: rest of the way. He didn't have any credentials for

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Speaker 1: the job, but Jim Mercy seemed so confident about him.

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Speaker 1: And then you see the rumor, you know, the reports

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Speaker 1: trickling out of everybody else's interviewing, you know whoever. But

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Speaker 1: Jimmrcy still wants Jeff Saturday, and You're like, are they

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Speaker 1: really gonna do this? All right? I just to be

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Speaker 1: Sun and whatever. Just Saturday might be a great head

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Speaker 1: coach on the road, I don't know, but it would

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Speaker 1: be such a leap of blind faith to hire him

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Speaker 1: right now based on nothing. They didn't play well last year.

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Speaker 1: They were the biggest lead in NFL history that a

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter against the Cowboys, all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: So I think that that's just who are they going

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Speaker 1: to hire his head coach? Is it going to be

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Speaker 1: Just Saturday? Or is it going to be someone honestly

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Speaker 1: with a little more credentials for the job. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to even talk about the Colts in twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: without knowing the answer to that question because it's just

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Speaker 1: going to reshape everything you do. And then the quarterback

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Speaker 1: question is interesting. I think that the Colts move up.

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Speaker 1: I think the Bears are sitting there at once saying

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Speaker 1: we're drafting a quarterback. Matt Aberfloss is going to get

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Speaker 1: on the phone with his old buddies from India and say,

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Speaker 1: all right, what do we need to do? What do

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Speaker 1: you need to do to get up to number one.

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Speaker 1: It's going to cost a lot, But I think the

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Speaker 1: Colts go up to number one and get their quarterback.

852
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: I think that that's the most reasonable outcome when you

853
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Speaker 1: look at just the scenarios and what could happen. The

854
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: Colts need a quarterback. Orsay has been dying to get

855
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: a quarterback with everybody knows that that team needs to

856
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: quarterback because the pieces are pretty good around it. So

857
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Speaker 1: go up, get Bryce Young starch a new era all

858
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Speaker 1: over again. It's it's a it's a rare scenario where

859
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: a number one team picking number one when there was

860
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: a good quarterback on the board doesn't need a quarterback,

861
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Speaker 1: so they're gonna be looking to move down. They can

862
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: move down not fall too far where they won't get

863
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: the guy they want. They're still going to get a

864
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: great player because the quarterbacks will go one two, and

865
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: I think that way the Colts kind of reset things awesome,

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00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: all right. Frank Schwab at Yahoo Schwab. Follow him if

867
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: you're an NFL fan, appreciate the time. I as always

868
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 1: want to talk to you this offseason coming up, because,

869
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: like you said, the draft the coaching searchers is still

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Speaker 1: ongoing as of this recording. Right now, Frank Swab two

871
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: questions and let you go. They are yes or no

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Speaker 1: replies only. Are you ready? Yes, Aaron Rodgers plays quarterbacks? One? Right,

873
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers plays quarterback next year for the Green Bay Packers.

874
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: Yes or no? Yes, okay. Number two, Trey Lance is

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00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback in San Francisco next year. Yes or no? No, no, no.

876
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: I love it that is Frank Schwab Follow him again

877
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: at Yahoo schwab. If you like the NFL, you'll love

878
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: this cat. Frank, appreciate the time. Let's have a great

879
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and chat about it afterwards. Absolutely appreciate you guys.

880
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: One of the best in the business. Frank Schwab, appreciate you.

881
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: Follow him on Twitter at Yahoo Swab. Not time for

882
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: a little hook and lateral Don Cooreel style back in

883
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 1: the day, Matey Boisey state you mentioned earlier is also

884
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: a good one. Hook and lateral is this segment. That's right, Jeffrey,

885
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna start as the quarterback. You're gonna

886
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: throw it to somebody and they will lateral around the

887
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: top of it. Let's go keep this hot potato going.

888
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: All right, hook and lateral. We're still in this thing.

889
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: We're still in this thing. Here we go, DJM tossing

890
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: it to you. Did the Bengals get hosed by the

891
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: officials in the AFC champ music here? How about give

892
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: me it? The Cincinnati Bengals did not get hosed by officiating.

893
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 1: There were one hundred and twenty nine plays in that game,

894
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: and yeah, it was is a close game and it

895
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: comes down to a couple of things. Um, the penalty

896
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: on Joseph Asai was the correct call. Feel awful for

897
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: that kid. It's a correct call. There was not holding

898
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: on that play. Holding. Twitter became extremely annoying on Monday

899
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: because people don't understand the rules of what holding is.

900
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: And if you follow people like Brandon Thorn, who's an

901
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: offensive line guru, there was no holding on that play.

902
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: The one that if I'm a Bengals fan, I'm that's

903
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: sticking in my craw is the third down that got

904
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: replayed because of the issue with the clock. That okay,

905
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: so the way that I saw it was Ron tore

906
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: but the head referee miss spoke and said the play

907
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: clock will start on my signal, or the game clock

908
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: will start in my signal, when he should have said

909
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: the play clock, not the game clock will start on

910
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: the snap. So there was miscommunication there. I think the

911
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: clock operator did what he was told to do, even

912
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: if it was incorrect, and then the Bengals get the stop.

913
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: But hold on, hold on, hold on gott to redo

914
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: that right that. That is a tough break for Cincinnati.

915
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: But one one hundred and twenty nine plays in this

916
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: game make one more. I think if I'm the band goals,

917
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going home and I'm like tires. One more play.

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00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: We weren't one more call short. We were one play short.

919
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think they got hose. I think

920
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: they were on the wrong end of a lot of

921
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: bad calls and there were a lot of bad calls

922
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: and bad execution, uh you know, procedures from the the

923
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: officiating crew in that game. But it didn't cost him

924
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: the game. The most egregious part of that game for me,

925
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: and I said it in real time, was punning the

926
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Speaker 1: ball back to the Chiefs with under minute right down

927
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. Yeah, and allowing the big

928
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: return by sky More. Just kick They did miss a

929
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Speaker 1: block in the pack. It was close, yeah, and right,

930
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: So that's why I think Cincinnati feels like they got

931
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: even more screwed by the officiating crew. But just kick

932
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: the ball at a bounce, because why even take the

933
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: risk of allowing a big play on special times knowing

934
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: what's on the other end of that. And the Chiefs

935
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: weren't moving the ball at that point, right, but the

936
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: lou Anamo had them locked down. They were not moving

937
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: the ball at that point. I couldn't believe it. I

938
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Speaker 1: couldn't believe they kicked the ball right in the middle

939
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: of the field and allowed sky More to get what

940
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: a twenty nine yard punt return. To set them up

941
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Speaker 1: in an outstanding field position, because they've shown that that's

942
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: all they need. I mean, the Buffalo Bills are probably

943
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 1: crying saying, see, we told you it can happen. JJ,

944
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: You're about to get tackled. Do something, all right, I'm

945
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: gonna go lateral this one to Lara. There I go,

946
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: comes the linebacker. Are the Chiefs in the midst of

947
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: a dynasty. They've played in five straight AFC Championship games

948
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Speaker 1: and they're heading to their third Super Bowl in the

949
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: last four years. Come on, I am so comfortable with

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00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: this one. I'm running wide. I'm swinging the ball in

951
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 1: my right hand right here. You know, I am saying

952
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: absolutely what better dynasty is there in the works right now?

953
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: And this is going to continue because I just looked

954
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: up that contract extension that Patrick Mahomes signed with Kansas

955
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: City Chiefs. He is signed to be with the franchise

956
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: through twenty thirty one guys, so they are they're locked

957
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: up with not only Patrick Mahome, but then the wealth

958
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: of guys that they have around him. I'm looking at

959
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: spot Track, which tracks all of the contract situations and

960
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: all of that and the way that they have built

961
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: this team. It's sustained success. And think about all the

962
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: criticism that there was or I guess maybe some of

963
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 1: the conversation maybe not criticism when they let Tyreek Hill

964
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: go to Miami. Oh man, how are you going to

965
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: replicate that kind of production? Oh, we're just gonna go

966
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: out and get markuez Valdi's championship. I mean, and then

967
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 1: you also look at look at the guys who they've

968
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: drafted as well. Look at George Carl Loftus a rookie

969
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: making the type of plays that he did in the

970
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: ANC Championship game that got great play in the trenches.

971
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: They have incredible playmakers, and their quarterback is just I

972
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: mean who I would say the best quarterback in football

973
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: hands down right now and will be for the four seas.

974
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: All the hand ringing about Mahomes contract and his cap

975
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: hit being in the forty millions, the cap is going

976
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: up so much that in like two years that contract

977
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: is gonna be a bargain. And also the cap it's

978
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: all it's all cash. The cap isn't real. Larah, we

979
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: love you, but you're about to get decapitated by an

980
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: edge rusher. Get rid of the ball. Oh that's try

981
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 1: to get lateral in here. Okay, here we may take

982
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: coming to you. Did the Bengals lose because of bad karma?

983
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: From what their mayor said before the AFC title game,

984
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: burrow Head, we need a DNA test. We're going full Mori,

985
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: you are not the father. Absolutely, here we go produce

986
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: this on the fly. Brow who's three and l against Mahomes,

987
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: has been asked by officials to take a fraternity tests

988
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: confirming whether or not he's his father, And I got

989
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: some wise words for that. Cincinnati mayor, know your role

990
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: and shut your mouth. You jabroni, you gotta fight. Oh

991
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: you're right. Also, by the way, great great usage of

992
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 1: the word jabroni. I'm here get out after I said,

993
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: can we can we get valor confirmation that that's the

994
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: first time Jabbroni's used on a CBS national broadcast? Next, Yeah,

995
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: I mean, and of course it would come from Travis

996
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: From Travis Kelsey, I am a huge believer, Treasure, no question,

997
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: I am a huge believer in karma. I had Jeffrey

998
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: can attest to this. You guys can't as well. I

999
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: had the Bengals winning all week, and then I see

1000
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: that comment late Friday night from the mayor and there

1001
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: you go. There it is that's the kiss of death

1002
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: and it's all about bulletin board material and athletes. They

1003
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: thrive on it. Man, I mean every team that has

1004
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: ever been in existence. You find ways to find things

1005
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: to motivate you, to give you that slight advantage. And

1006
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm just the big believer in what goes around comes around.

1007
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: And the real loser in all of this should be

1008
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati mayor for just why would you even go there? Man? Yeah,

1009
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: it's also Cincinnati, Like that is totally there. Like I

1010
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: feel like that is inherent to who that fan base is.

1011
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: That city is the other very in your little pretty

1012
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: such a right call this jerk for saying what he did, right,

1013
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: I'm not a jerk. That's a little jo I mean,

1014
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: I understand that these things happen too, right, may just

1015
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: make other roundabouts make decisions on that like that. But

1016
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: it stops yet roundabout approved to build on the Montgomery

1017
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 1: in Yes whatevercovery, don't put another skyline on the exit

1018
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: seventy four, bear like that when you're traveling up there

1019
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: and you come out with that beat eternity test. But

1020
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: don't awful, But don't mayors like, don't politicians make friendly bets? You?

1021
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: You know, you get some barbecue from Kansas City? Like

1022
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: what are you doing? I mean that old mayor maybe

1023
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Bubbles like I like to do

1024
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: from time time? Maybe got a little fire on. That's

1025
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: the JABRONI well said Travis Cash. Joe Burrows on the

1026
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: line for you and shut your mouth next year. Shut

1027
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: it all right, you're about to get channel. Yeah, you're

1028
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: about to get just hammerd. I'm about to get up

1029
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: ended here. I'm trying to defeat the cut block right now,

1030
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: all right, Jeffrey, I'm gonna lateral to you. Yes, what

1031
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: is the best Super Bowl storyline? Early? Early Super Bowl storyline?

1032
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: Is it Andy Reid coaching against his former team and

1033
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: the Eagles? How about the Kelsey brothers? You know if

1034
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: Missus Kelsey the first mom ever with two sons playing

1035
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl? Or is it the fact that

1036
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 1: this matchup first matchup with two starting black quarterbacks facing

1037
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: off Patrick Mahomes and Jalen Hurts. What do you got?

1038
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: Great storylines all the way around. But we go back

1039
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: to Doug Williams, we go back to Lovey Smith, we

1040
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 1: go back to Tony Dungee, Doug Williams, first African American

1041
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl title. Tony Dungee and Lovey

1042
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: Smith squared off. Obviously we won that one. I am

1043
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: sticking with the first two starting African American quarterbacks facing

1044
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: off in Mahomes and Hurts. This league has been around

1045
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: forever in a day, so it finally happened. These guys

1046
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: are foundation figures now for the rest of their life.

1047
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: That to me is the biggest storyline well done. For

1048
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: so long in the NFL, there's been these kind of

1049
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: baked in racist evaluations of black quarterbacks. That's what it is.

1050
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: That's what it's been, where they're not smart enough, they

1051
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: can only run. And you look at these two quarterbacks,

1052
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts and Patrick Mahomes, and you look at some

1053
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: of the great black quarterbacks around the NFL, and that

1054
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: that is just it's so tired. It was tired ten

1055
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: years ago, it's tired twenty years ago. It is tired

1056
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: at the start of the league one quarter when you

1057
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: couldn't even be a black quarterback when football was in

1058
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: its infancy. And for this to be a storyline now

1059
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: and for people to look around the league and to

1060
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: not just see Mahomes and Hurts, but to see Lamar

1061
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: Jackson not playing wide receiver and playing at a very

1062
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,959
Speaker 1: high level for the Baltimore Ravens. You know, to see

1063
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: justin fields doing what he's doing and with the upside

1064
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: that he has where all right, yeah, he's more of

1065
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: a running quarterback, but it's not because he's black, you know.

1066
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: It's just to see the growth of this has been

1067
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 1: so good and to see people's minds being changed about

1068
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: it around the league, where if you are a black quarterback,

1069
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: you are not considered all right, well, you're gonna run

1070
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: the ball, right. Look at CJ. Stroud coming out of

1071
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: Ohio State, a guy who's gonna probably we're gonna hear

1072
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: a lot about him over the next couple of months. CJ.

1073
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: Stroud is not a running quarterback. CJ. Stroud can win

1074
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: from the pocket. He can process extremely well. Yes he

1075
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: can scramble if he needs to, but so can Joe Burrow.

1076
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: Like the whole thing about black quarterbacks, it was racist

1077
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: fifty years ago, it was racist last year, it's racist today.

1078
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: And I'm glad that this is where we're at right now.

1079
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: And also they're both just incredible personalities, and they do

1080
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: so much outside of football. When you look at how

1081
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: much that Patrick Mahomes has invested in women's soccer in

1082
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: Kansas City, he and his wife foughten into the franchise there.

1083
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts each and every week you see on his

1084
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: social pages the things that he is doing from a

1085
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 1: community standpoint in Philadelphia. So these guys are so influential,

1086
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: not just in who they are as players, but who

1087
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: they are as people and how they have embraced the

1088
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: communities of the organizations that they are playing for and

1089
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: they are representing. I will say, though, the most entertaining

1090
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: storyline to me going into this one is sweet old

1091
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: Donna Kelsey Brothers. Oh my gosh, did you hear yesterday

1092
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: that Travis was saying, I'm not going to talk a

1093
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: whole lot of trash this week because I have so

1094
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: much respect for my brother and I'm always cheering for

1095
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 1: those guys. I admire so many of these guys. This

1096
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: is gonna be so much fun. I love it. And like,

1097
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: can Donna Kelsey write a parenting book or something like? So?

1098
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: Like is there? Can she have to get to the

1099
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: super Bowl? Yeah? How you construct two super Bowl bound children.

1100
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: When you have those those two who are completely they

1101
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: play completely different positions, like the Bosa brothers. It's like

1102
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: woll Boy. They got great defensive ends, doctor hire one,

1103
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: great man book quarterbacks. This is a Hall of Fame

1104
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: center at a Hall of Fame tight end. They're totally different.

1105
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: Kelsey Brothers, I'd messed with the Manning brothers. You would

1106
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: d mess with the man You have a shot, I

1107
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: mean just talking about in the dark, just out you though, Yeah,

1108
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: I mean if I'm in a dark alley, I'm in

1109
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: a dark alley. If I'm in a dark alley and

1110
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: I see Travis Kelsey and Jason Kelsey coming down, I'm done.

1111
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: I mean I'm done. The guy can catch me. The

1112
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: one side I think I can outrun the other one.

1113
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 1: I can't. The Mannings, I got a shot. I could

1114
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: sweep a knee maybe something like that. And then I go,

1115
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 1: who else any other brother combos that I could meet

1116
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: in a dark alley? A shot against Aaron and Bret Boone. Uh, yeah,

1117
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: there'll be the Watch not the watch. Got they put

1118
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: me in a hand Nihil. How about the fact that

1119
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 1: Eli and Peyton are gonna coach head to head against

1120
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: each other in the Pro Bowl. That's that's great stuff

1121
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: right there. All right, here we go, Maytay. We got

1122
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 1: a random thought of the week. We're headed your way.

1123
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 1: Lara Overton's here. JJ Stak commits to myself the week,

1124
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: just gonna give you that middle shuffle pass at Yeah,

1125
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: that little mahomes on the three yard line that I

1126
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: got to lower my shoulder and get in. Go ahead, guys,

1127
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: random thought. Where do we draw the line on tipping?

1128
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: I mean we're being asked to tip more and more now,

1129
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: I mean, are you guys noticing this well? I mean

1130
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: the other day we're getting ice cream with the kid

1131
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: us and you know, I'm asked to tip on ice cream,

1132
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: or We're at the sub shop and you don't even

1133
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: You're not even being served in the traditional sense. I'm

1134
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: busting my own table or cleaning my own table. I'm

1135
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: not being no one's taking my order. I'm going up

1136
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: to the counter and I'm being asked to tip. I'm

1137
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 1: being asked to tip on carry out As a society.

1138
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: Where are we drawing the line? Because I always like

1139
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: to tip. I just don't want to be that guy.

1140
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: I'm always a tip on carryouts because they do have

1141
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: to go through the work of like assembling all of

1142
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: your stuff and getting it out to you and all

1143
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: those things. So especially in you know, I think a

1144
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: lot of this amplified during COVID times because you couldn't

1145
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: eat in and you know, there were you weren't able

1146
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: to in a lot of places go sit down have dinner.

1147
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: It was carry out only. So I think my mentality was, well,

1148
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: it's you still, you're kind of just transferring that, right,

1149
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: You're not able to sit in, so you're kind of

1150
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: transferring it over um to doing that what I like

1151
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: to do though, Here's how I kind of I tend

1152
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 1: to in those situations. I like, I don't often carry

1153
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 1: much cash. I am a almost exclusively card user, but

1154
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: I like to have ones on me because I like

1155
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: to just tip, you know when I can't, So then

1156
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 1: that doesn't go on your credit card transaction, but you know,

1157
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: you can drop two or three bucks in addition too,

1158
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: and then it's something yeah, right, yes, exactly exactly so,

1159
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: And in that way, it doesn't really kind of come

1160
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: out of your overall budget. It's just kind of like

1161
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: an additional little kitty that you'll pull from when necessary.

1162
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: Let me predict this one. I bet that stank of

1163
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: it has has has just walked out on stuff. Just

1164
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: if the bill was forty six o two, he left

1165
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: forty six o two? Am I right on that? You

1166
00:56:50,960 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 1: are so incorrect, My god, it's always get I'm boiled bill.

1167
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: That's the only place though, I'm what kind of tipper

1168
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 1: are you give it to me? So I'm with Lara.

1169
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: I like to do the you know, little dollar in

1170
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: the jar for small stuff, but I mean I do it.

1171
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: I gladly will do it. The coffee shop that I

1172
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: go to on my neighborhood, Zinc Cafe, Great Coffee on

1173
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: the Village us Clay. You know, you can tip and

1174
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: it has the automatic like so you can tip twenty percent.

1175
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: You just like punch it in your credit card. Um,

1176
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: that's easy. I wish for like bigger organizations, that the

1177
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: workers just got paid better, so you didn't put the

1178
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: burden of me. That's where I'm at. I feel put

1179
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: it on me, put it on the people who are

1180
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: employing them. That's that That's where I think I'm trying

1181
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: to find a societal consensus on this, because that's that's

1182
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: what creeps in my mind. You know, if I'm not

1183
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: tipping them, are they gonna be able to make the

1184
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: money they need doing this job? Good question, all those,

1185
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: all those. You know, there's a lot of people that

1186
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: depend on tips out there, so you know, waitresses, bartenders,

1187
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: everywhere else, Bell Hop, I'm gonna talk to you bell

1188
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: people with your luggage and stuff. Can I just say

1189
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: what I do really quick? And it's selfish, very self

1190
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: serving and selfish, But I'm gonna tell you if it's shocking.

1191
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: If if fifteen bucks is a good tip, thirty bucks

1192
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: is a better tip. And the reason that I'll double

1193
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: stuff a lot of times, whether it's a meal or

1194
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: you at a hotel, is I always going, hey, how

1195
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: are you doing? Nice to see it. I'll be back. Yeah,

1196
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: I'll be back. I'll see you again, especially with tips

1197
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: when it comes to getting good parking spots and stuff

1198
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: like that. If it's five bucks to park, I give ten.

1199
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: I say hey, keep me close guys, just for stuff

1200
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: like that, just so we can say hey. They and

1201
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: my thing is you're setting up. Yeah, you're setting up

1202
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: for next time. I'm like, hey, remember me from last

1203
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: week I saw you work. They're like, oh yeah, hey pal,

1204
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: how you doing? Come on and you got not like that.

1205
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: But here's the double tip. That's that's that's my go

1206
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: to at weddings. Well, I'll go up to the bar

1207
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: and hey, here's a twenty dollars tip to start off.

1208
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: Just remember me next time and then you know, tip

1209
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: him a couple bucks every other time you get a drink,

1210
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: but start off, start off the big one. Hey remember me.

1211
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be back all right, guys. This is like

1212
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: cult's official podcast, prosuct. You buy our friends that win.

1213
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: Bet we're almost dot here. No, this is like the

1214
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: first weekend with no football. Well there is sort of

1215
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: football with like the most dodgeball see your bowl going on?

1216
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: I mean college and stuff like this one. What do

1217
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: you guys do? Do you diget into the college basketball?

1218
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: Larrd you go down to IU? Do you put on

1219
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: the candy strike? It's a big end. It's a big

1220
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: one on Saturday. It is I you hosting the number

1221
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: one ranked produe Boilers. Oh okay, so so llo out

1222
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: of commission come four pm on Saturday. Don't text me,

1223
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: don't come. I'll probably text may take because I'll get

1224
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: I rate because you know, Zachie Hill do something I

1225
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: don't like and like six han ones in the first

1226
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: seven minutes. Yeah, we're down thirteen? What are we doing?

1227
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I'll start this is when I start

1228
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: shifting my attention to a little more college basketball. Yeah, yeah,

1229
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: I definitely What do you do? Do you? Lara's College

1230
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: may Taste says, I mean, Lari's I you all day?

1231
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean watch it. Here's my prediction for you, j J. Okay,

1232
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: you watch the USFL or at least you you scout

1233
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: the USFL a little bit. I can't. I can't. I

1234
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: can't go that far. No, you go down to Mason

1235
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: watch the Cubs. What are you doing? No? Uh no,

1236
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm a fair Weather college basketball fans. I'm a Missouri grad.

1237
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: Our teams doing awfully well this year. We just beat

1238
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: the tar out of Iowa. Stayed over the weekend. So

1239
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: I'll probably be tuning it in a little more Tiger

1240
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: hoops coming up. Okay, tiger hoops. There we go. I'm

1241
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: gonna be too cooling in the more. Big attention to

1242
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: Tiger hoops. Since Quinn Snyder there was a lot to

1243
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: pay attention to. Then I'll go against you in Jeopardy

1244
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: any day of the week. I love watch. I've been hot?

1245
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: What is the milky way I've been hot? I played

1246
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: with Matt Wilkining on the phone the other day while

1247
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: we were both watching it. It It was kind of phone

1248
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: actually doing it. It was tedious, but it was kind

1249
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: of fun and I cheated me a little. I didn't

1250
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: say I didn't cheat, but oh, we had a fun time.

1251
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: Jeopardy is my offseason go too. I know it's weird,

1252
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: but hey, it's what we do. Were you we do

1253
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: get weird? Here a little bit on the Colts official

1254
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: podcall again, presented by our friends at wid bet The

1255
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: Last Word, the Colts offseason radio show. It airs on

1256
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: Friday night at six pm on ninety three five and

1257
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: one oh seven five. We got Matte with me on

1258
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: that one and also be available on the on coach

1259
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: dot com, Coach Mobile app, and the Colt Audio Network.

1260
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: Who's going to the Big Game? Here, guys, before we

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Speaker 1: are you Arizona bound? JJ? No, No, I'm not. I'll

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Speaker 1: be I'll be here watching and observing. And you know

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Speaker 1: I love to see like all the coverage, like starting

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Speaker 1: early in the day, Like I'll bop around do the

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Speaker 1: ESPN pregame show, the Fox pregame show. I like to

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Speaker 1: watch it all, immerse it all, watch the halftime show,

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Speaker 1: real excited for Did this blow anyone else's mind? It's Rihanna,

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Speaker 1: not Rihanna? Rihanna is is? Have we been saying her

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Speaker 1: name wrong? Behol And she hasn't done a show since

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen? Is that right? Yeah, she's been busy. She's

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Speaker 1: a billionaire now, she built fenty Beauty and she's created

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Speaker 1: a billion dollar back off on mother I mean bow down. Yeah, na, facts,

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Speaker 1: I'm just facts. Great super Bowl halftime shows, Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: coming up some go boatch. We got to talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Let's do that next week. Let's do the one the

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Speaker 1: one last year, like was the best one I will

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Speaker 1: ever see? What was one? Doctor dre Oh god that

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Speaker 1: it was so good. Evan McPherson said, I don't need

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Speaker 1: any halftime speech. I'm coming out here and watching that.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, that was just Hold on a minute. When

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Speaker 1: you go to your YouTube and go to the two

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Speaker 1: thousand and six two thou I'm not talking about Remember,

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Speaker 1: I'm not Matan had this conversation in Minneapolis. I am

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Speaker 1: ending this thing, right, now because of greatest guitar player. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you bad mouth Prince. All right, listen,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk more music and of course football next week.

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Speaker 1: It's The Cult's official podcast for Matt Taylor, JJ Steak Overton,

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Speaker 1: I'm Gore Man. We will talk to you next week