1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,559 Speaker 1: I was. I was here Friday night for the show. 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 2: Look like I didn't notice. 3 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: It looked like it was flowing pretty good during the 4 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: walkout there. I mean, that's nervous, that's street credit. How 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you vacation. It was good. 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: You guys were having fun while you were gone. 7 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: No, you took a shot at me for a vacation 8 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: like something about Myrtle Beach or something like that. 9 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: Well, I just thought that that would be somewhere where 10 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 3: you would Everybody kind of agreed. 11 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: Beach. 12 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: I mean, from what I can remember, I've. 13 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: Been there a numerous times. I mean, it's a good. 14 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: Time of the kind of the shot. Yeah, but how 15 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: do you I'm assuming you and Morgan Walland know each 16 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 1: other from Nashville. 17 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean he played. 18 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 3: I saw him play in front of twelve hundred people 19 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: in a in a warehouse in like twenty nineteen, and uh. 20 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's doing pretty good for himself. 21 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 4: Really does he does? 22 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: He? 23 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: How does that work? 24 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: Does he call you? Or do his people call? 25 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: Like? 26 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: How does how do they lock you in for the walkout? 27 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: Uh? He handled that, he does. 28 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was cool. Gronk did a did a good 29 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: job on Saturday. 30 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 2: Night. 31 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean he spiked the guitar. I don't know, of 32 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: course he did. Well, we are do you want, by 33 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: the way, do you want some sort of a walk 34 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: up song? When for this, for this interview every week? 35 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: Is there? 36 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 2: No? No, no, I don't think we have to do that. 37 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: You don't, you don't? 38 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: Okay, maybe a coffee but wait, we'll get your coffee. 39 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: What do you what do you want? Black? 40 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: Or okay? 41 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: All right, so we're we're getting down to it here 42 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: meaningful football in less than two weeks. Uh, your first 43 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: training camp here as a head coach? Are you in 44 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: the You in the same mindset as Wiggy and ty 45 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: Law some of the old heads that we hear on 46 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: on on our show. That guys the way training camp 47 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: is now you can't hit enough. It's a lot of walkthroughs. 48 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: It's uh, well it's different. You know, it's different. So 49 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's good or bad. I'm just 50 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: telling you it's it's different. That's what some of the 51 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: rules are. 52 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: That's what the you know, the tracking and the the 53 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: science of everything of the mileage and you know just 54 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: how much they're they're running and the pads that you 55 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: can have on a certain amount of days and you know, 56 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: just the schedule is different, and so again we just 57 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: have to make sure what we know the rules and 58 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: then we and then we follow them and make sure 59 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: that the we're doing everything we can to get them prepared. 60 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 5: It's different, Mike. It's about the balance, right, I know. 61 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 5: The balance is different, especially for preseason games. Do you 62 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 5: feel like Drake may got enough reps opportunity to in 63 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 5: the preseason to make sure he's able to be prepared and. 64 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: Ready to go Week one? 65 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that through the joint practices 66 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: with Washington and the volume there and the volume with Minnesota, 67 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: and again wanted to get him out there for for 68 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 3: some action. But then you know, I think it was 69 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 3: all there's a there's a balance there. There's a balance 70 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: of you know, how much you want to go out 71 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: there and play, but you have to get out there 72 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: and do a little bit and take some hits and 73 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 3: make some throws and stand in a live pocket and 74 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 3: all those things. 75 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 6: Mike, when you look back at preseason so far for 76 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 6: you specifically, what's been the most challenging part your your 77 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 6: first season as head coach here? What what's the challenge 78 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 6: that comes along with that, well. 79 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: I mean there's something that comes up every day. 80 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: It's schedule, raining, this that the other travel guys, injured 81 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: guys can't go in the morning, adjusting practice or moving 82 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: things around. 83 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: That that that's that's the challenge. 84 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: I think it's just to try to, you know, have 85 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: some consistent efforts, build a routine, have a flow. I 86 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: think to training camp and I appreciate the fans that 87 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: came out each and every day, and we try to 88 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: build a flow and just the daily routine. And now 89 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: we're switching back to you know, what we would consider 90 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: an d season schedule. So that was a little bit 91 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: of an adjustment and that will continue to be one 92 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 3: from yesterday today and moving forward. So I would say 93 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: that that's that's probably the next challenge is just getting 94 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: acclimated to a to a regular season schedule. 95 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: Trevion Henderson said Wednesday that you and the organization have 96 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: done such a great job of helping them become closer 97 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: as a group. Are you do you see that and 98 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: feel that and and what you know, how do you 99 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: how do you do that? Well? 100 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: I mean I think that you just try to invest 101 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 3: time in in the players and obviously be intentional with 102 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: building a locker room. I mean, they were going to 103 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: be together for a long time. This is a long season, 104 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: and and we don't. 105 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: You know, we don't want these to be one year rentals. 106 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 3: We want to try to build something with with players 107 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 3: and and build around them and those pieces, and so, 108 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot that goes into it. There's 109 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 3: a lot of you know, again, there is there a 110 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 3: personal side of this business and a professional side of 111 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: this business, and you know, hopefully we don't let those 112 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 3: interfere with each other. 113 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: And but we certainly are trying. 114 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 3: To be intentional with with making connections throughout the building 115 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: and between players and between coaches and players. 116 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 7: You talk about being intentional, how important is it to 117 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 7: have one voice that's echoed throughout the building. I just 118 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 7: think to the public comments. I think a week or 119 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 7: two ago where Elliott Wolf said, well, we're willing to 120 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 7: trade a first or a second round pick to acquire 121 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 7: a talent. It seems like there are multiple people speaking 122 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 7: about the direction of the organization, and that struck me 123 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 7: as just odd. I would never envision you saying publicly 124 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 7: what you would be willing to trade for an asset. 125 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think that when you talk about 126 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: player acquisition, I think it depends. That's a hard question 127 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: to answer without talking about who that player is. And 128 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 3: I think that we have to go to great lengths 129 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: to improve this team, and there's those are different options, 130 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: and if that's through the draft or trading somebody or 131 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 3: trading for a player. You know, I'm not certainly not 132 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 3: going to speak for anybody or Elliott or anybody else, 133 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: but we will have to go to We'll have to 134 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: make sure that we invest a lot of time into 135 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: what those decisions are, look at them and then say 136 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 3: is this what's best for the team, and then if 137 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 3: it's not, then then don't do it. But if it is, 138 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 3: you know, then we would have to consider it. So 139 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: you know, I just you know that one voice or 140 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 3: two voice, you know what I'm saying. Like, I think 141 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: that it's pretty clear that you know, we're we're in 142 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: alignment as an organization, what we want from our players, 143 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: what we expect, what we want our identity to be, 144 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 3: and then we'll go about trying to get there. 145 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: I know you don't want to talk about players that 146 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: are on other teams, understand that, but players like that, 147 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: like there are two maybe three legit playmaker additions that 148 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: you could add to this football team who seem to 149 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: be disgruntled. Are you guys working? Is it your philosophy 150 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: that the organization's philosophy. You want to go do whatever 151 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: it takes to go and get somebody who can add 152 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: to this team right now? 153 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,679 Speaker 3: Well, again, we want to continue to strengthen the roster. 154 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 3: And I don't know if that's the players that you're 155 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 3: talking about or some other players or how that may 156 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 3: come about, but I know we have had conversations. We'll 157 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 3: continue to have conversations about continuing to improve the roster. 158 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: And then again, if it makes sense and then we 159 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: feel like it's advantageous to us, then we'll consider it. 160 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 5: A couple of them get after the quarterback and one 161 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 5: catch the football pretty well. 162 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 4: I won't say no names, but thank you. When you 163 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 4: look at this roster. 164 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 5: One of the guys that I think a lot of 165 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 5: fans and you guys have high expectations for Steph thinks 166 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 5: what's I know, we hadn't seen them throughout the whole 167 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 5: preseason as far as the games. What what's the expectation 168 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 5: for him Week one? 169 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: I mean that he's ready to go and that he 170 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: helps and he helps us on you know, helps our offense, 171 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: and that he helps Drake. 172 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: And again, I think that they're building a connection. 173 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: I think that there's you know, we've we've played a 174 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 3: lot of different receiver combination and I think that that's 175 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 3: been good, whether that be in the red zone yesterday 176 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: or in a two minute drive and you know, guys 177 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: are rolling in there and kind of finding a role. 178 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: And you know, so again, I think the expectations are 179 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: high for all of us, whether it be Steph Diggs 180 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: or Drake or me or Kyle Williams or anybody out there. 181 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: You know, the expectations. This is professional football. So but 182 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: his attitude has been good. He's had a willingness, and 183 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: I've decided to keep him out of those preseason games 184 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: that you mentioned. 185 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: So that was not I think one of the great 186 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: things about being able to interview you is you get 187 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: the there's a lot of nonsense that floats around. You 188 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: get to come on the show and clear it up 189 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: for all of us. So you decided to keep him 190 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: out of games, nothing to do with he's got. 191 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 3: A lot of reps, you know what I mean, He's 192 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: got a lot of reps and so you're happy with him. Yeah, 193 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 3: I mean, I think where he's at him and he's 194 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 3: been able to string days together, and you know what 195 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: I mean, whether that've held him out of individual and 196 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: brought him out for a team, or I'm just trying 197 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 3: to get each guy what they need to be ready 198 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: for the season. 199 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 6: When you were asked about you on Pole last week, 200 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 6: you said, you know rats, Is there a rat problem 201 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 6: that you have in the building? 202 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 2: Have you figured out? Guys? 203 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: I love how you guys take everything out. 204 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: We got to run with it, get all nervous. 205 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's rats all over the place, but do you 206 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: have I mean, whether that's in this building, whether that's 207 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 3: outside this building. 208 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: I just love the flow of information. 209 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: And I just felt inclined and I was pissed off 210 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: because we stunk and we couldn't do anything. So I 211 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 3: tried to entertain you guys a little bit. I was 212 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 3: ready to get home and get back to Foxborough. 213 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: So you don't have to smoke them out. 214 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: No, I don't think they we'll have to smoke them out. 215 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 3: I think we just want to be careful again the 216 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 3: information that gets transferred to the media. And again, we're 217 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: always we always want to do right by the Patriots 218 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 3: and this football team. 219 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: I think that's the most important thing. 220 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 7: How difficult is it to compete when it looks like 221 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 7: your your first week roster will have only one player 222 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 7: from the twenty twenty for a draft class? Can you 223 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 7: compete when you have one guy from an entire class 224 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 7: last year? 225 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: Yes? 226 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 7: How much bore? How difficult is that as an organization 227 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 7: to overcome? 228 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: I've never even looked at how difficult it's hard to 229 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 3: compete in this league. So, however, wherever the roster shakes 230 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: out at, it's going to be hard to compete, whether 231 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 3: we have fifteen guys from a draft class or two 232 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 3: or one or none. We'll have a roster and we'll 233 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: try to figure out the best way to win each 234 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 3: and every week. 235 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 2: However that is with whoever we have, just like we've 236 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: always done. 237 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 7: And how much have you, as a new guy in 238 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 7: the organization scouted and seen what has transpired in the 239 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 7: front office and then use that to sort of say, Okay, 240 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 7: this is who we should have making decisions going forward 241 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 7: given what they did last year in the draft. 242 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: Now, I haven't looked at that one bit. I haven't 243 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: haven't paid any attention to that. I've just tried to 244 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: communicate with Ryan and Elliott and and try to figure 245 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 3: out who we need. 246 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: And that that's been my focus. 247 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: You're talking about Drake may earlier. Some panic when the 248 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: quarterback is running the football. How do you balance his 249 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he ran a lot in college. How do 250 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: you balance that with the need to keep your quarterback healthy? 251 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think that you have to be 252 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: able to use his ability, whether that's to extend plays 253 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: and you know, when we drop back and throw it 254 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 3: or by design at times, and you know, he just 255 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 3: has to understand that, you know, we're not trying to 256 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: take any unnecessary risk in making sure that he protects 257 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: himself and gets down and protects the football. And so 258 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: I think he'll continue to do that. I think we've 259 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 3: seen glimpses of that, and I think the more that 260 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 3: he does it, the more comfortable he'll get and understand that. 261 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 3: But I think you have to be able to use, 262 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 3: you know, what he brings in his athleticism. 263 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 4: Mike, what's that relationship like? 264 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 5: Because I think a lot of people like we look 265 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 5: at you and we know what you've been able to 266 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 5: accomplish in this league as a head coach. You've been 267 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 5: very success and I think the relationship between you and 268 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 5: Elliott Wolfe, what's step relationship like, because I don't I 269 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 5: think that you have a voice, because you wouldn't be 270 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 5: in this position without being the mic Rabel that you 271 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 5: are as like, Okay, here's what we need to do. 272 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I wouldn't get caught up in that. I mean, 273 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 3: can we meet every day, We talk communicates, We talked 274 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: through the injuries, We talked to who we. 275 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: Need, who's available, what we may have to do here. 276 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 3: We met with the you know, the players, and when 277 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: we had to move on from them, we met with 278 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 3: him and both him and I talked to him. We 279 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 3: thanked him, and we tried to do it, like I said, 280 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: as professionally as we could. This is a tough time 281 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 3: of year, you know, so again that this is really 282 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: is not an issue for me or going our conversations 283 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 3: or how we talk or what we need to get done, 284 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: and you know, that's what we're trying to do, whether 285 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 3: that was in free agency or the draft or or 286 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: now here. 287 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 6: Two specific players, Drake and Will Campbell, have been talked 288 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 6: about as kind of having Jekyl and Hide between joint 289 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 6: practices and then the actual preseason games. I always find 290 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 6: it interesting. Wiggy says that he learns more about players 291 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 6: when it comes to joint practice and how they perform 292 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 6: and joint practice instead of the preseason games. Where do 293 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 6: you fall there? Where do you get more out of 294 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 6: your players and who they could be in the regular season. 295 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: Well, I think the games matter. I think they do. 296 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 3: I think the live contact and the you know, the 297 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 3: tackling and some things. 298 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: You know. 299 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 3: Everybody thinks that there's a sack every single play and practice, 300 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 3: you know, I love I love that. And I asked 301 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: the player how many sacks he had in his career. 302 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 3: He said five, And I said, you think you got 303 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 3: three in practice today? I doubt it, But that's you know, 304 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 3: that's how it goes. And I think that the joint 305 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: practices are really good. And I think that when you 306 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 3: talk about evaluation, you have to look at everything and 307 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 3: who they're going against and you know, but the but 308 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 3: the games are still important, you know. I mean, I 309 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: think to be able to do these things under it's 310 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 3: just a different feel, right, the play clock, the operation 311 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 3: of everything is a little different in practice. 312 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: Speaking of stats, I think for you preseason two fights 313 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: joint practice wise. 314 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 3: I'm telling you haven't been in too many fights because 315 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: those aren't those aren't fights. 316 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: They were wrestling. 317 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: I love you get right in there. I mean, it's 318 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: like you're twenty five years old again. 319 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: I just don't want to see any punches, darn. I 320 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: think when they go to the ground, I just try 321 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: to get in there and break it out. 322 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 6: No scarring on the cheek either. 323 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're covered pretty quick on that. 324 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 4: Never hit a guy with a helmet on that. 325 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 5: I learned that a long time agoing fred backs to 326 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 5: punch somebody with a helmet and then broke his hand. 327 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: Freddie B. 328 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, Freddy B. 329 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 5: You look at this offense and you look at a 330 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 5: guy like Will Campbell, and we've talked about this before, 331 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 5: his nastiness, what he can do in the run game. 332 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 4: I like to know what has how has his progression 333 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 4: been in past. 334 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 5: Protection right, because you know that is a huge pot 335 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 5: of especially all offensive linemen, but especially the left tackles 336 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 5: protecting the blind side. 337 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 4: How has his progression been? 338 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: It's been good, all right, good. 339 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: The thing that we talk about with young players is 340 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: just starting to build tricks at the trade right, whatever 341 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: those are at each position. The craftiness and that's something 342 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 3: that you know, we talked to Will about and and 343 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 3: different players outside linebackers going against some of these other 344 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: guys and the tricks that they use, whether that's in 345 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 3: the past game or a run game. So just trying 346 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: to continue to build that that toolbox of just craftiness 347 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 3: that I think help a lot of these guys take 348 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: the next step, take take that jump. 349 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: I know you want to win every football game. It's 350 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: probably a fan media thing that the schedule comes out 351 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: and we start to, uh predict how many wins? 352 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: Is that part of your process do you? You know? 353 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: They they come in different places. 354 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: They Okay, so you're gonna sit there and go, hey, 355 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: this team ought to be an x amount of win. 356 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: We're undefeated right now. 357 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 7: Do you have an idea of what is a successful 358 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 7: season for you? 359 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: No, I've never looked at it like that. 360 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 3: I think that that there's a that there's a growth, 361 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: that there's a clear identity that we play to kind 362 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 3: of who we are that would continue to try to, 363 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 3: you know, like we said, be good enough to take 364 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: advantage of bad football for doing some of those things. 365 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: You know you're gonna have to win some close games, right, 366 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: You're gonna have to win some close games in this league, 367 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: and you know we'll have to do that. But now, 368 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 3: I've never looked at what a you know, a successful 369 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: season was. Obviously, we're here to win championships. That's what 370 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 3: that's what that first. That goal is, you know, win 371 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: the division. We've we've talked about this, win the division, 372 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 3: host home playoff games, and play for championships. So that 373 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 3: that's our job. 374 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: I saw recently one of your media rules for the 375 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: guys is speak for yourself. 376 00:16:59,200 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: What does that mean? 377 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 3: Well, you asked me, He asked me what Elliott meant? 378 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 3: And I said, well, I'm not going to speak for Elliott. 379 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: I'm going to speak for me. So you guys are 380 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 3: interviewing me. I'll answer questions about me and what I think, 381 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 3: and if Wiggy's got something to say, he'll say it. 382 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 3: And I'm not going to say, well, Wiggy thinks, how 383 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: the hell do I know what Wiggy? 384 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 2: I'll let you know. 385 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: I'll let you know nobody knows, nobody knows, right, because 386 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: but doesn't that make sense? 387 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: I don't know you guys. You guys want to speak 388 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: for me and how I think and everything else. We 389 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: speak for myself. 390 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: We dealt with the guy for a lot of years 391 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 1: down here who wouldn't say we try to get him 392 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: to say one. 393 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: Thing during the interview was very difficult. So how were those. 394 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 6: The scariest Sunday night into Monday in my life? 395 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: How much? 396 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: How much? 397 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 7: When it comes to your you have a support group, 398 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 7: who you. 399 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: Are as a coach? How much of that is is 400 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick? How much of that do you think you 401 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: learned from Bill? 402 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 3: I mean quite a bit, just as I learned a 403 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 3: lot from Irvin Meyer or Bill Cower or Bill O'Brien 404 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 3: and big BC guys over there. 405 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 406 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: And Bill was on the show last week talking about 407 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: your son being on the staff. 408 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 2: Tyler's helping out, and he's excited. 409 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 3: And I'll tell you, I don't know how much time 410 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 3: we have, but we have plenty. 411 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: No, I don't know how much time I have. 412 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 4: I was hoping. 413 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: I was kind of I want to come down to 414 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: the office. 415 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 3: So he's like, he's like, after the first scrimmage, I said, 416 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 3: how to go? He's like, well, you know, we threw 417 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 3: the ball k we couldn't really run. I said, what 418 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 3: was it? He's like, oh, they had some movements and stuff. 419 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 3: He's helping out with the old line and he's like 420 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: the third group but they didn't have handle movement very well. 421 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 3: And he's like, and the crazy thing is is we 422 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 3: we fall started four times, which I don't know how. 423 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: We only use the same fing. 424 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 3: Cadence every time I said, I texted back, welcome to coaching. 425 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 6: That's the hardest part of that. 426 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 2: Welcome coaching, Tyler. 427 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 5: What it's like to be on the other side. You 428 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 5: know what's interesting, Mike. You bring up and you say, 429 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 5: you can only talk about you and the identity. What 430 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 5: do you want the identity of. 431 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: This team to be? 432 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 4: I know you talk to them, what what is that? 433 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: Well? I mean I want you to see. 434 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: I want our fans to see a team that plays together, 435 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 3: you know, I mean that has a playing team, defense 436 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 3: that finishes, guys that are finishing around the football. 437 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: We got old linemen that are down the field. 438 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 3: We have receivers that are you know, willing to protect 439 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 3: the guy with the ball. A team that takes care 440 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: of the football, that values the football, somebody that is 441 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: able to turn the football over and affect the quarterback, 442 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 3: and then a team that makes great decisions. I think 443 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 3: that those are important when you're out on the field 444 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 3: is that you know, we don't have guys that are 445 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 3: the second guy in or or blindside blocking guys intentionally, 446 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 3: and you. 447 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: Know, just like you know, Marcus hit a big, big 448 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 2: return couple. 449 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 3: Preseasons ago, and we got three guys that are high 450 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 3: screening and using their rules and doing it the right way. 451 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: All right, Well, thanks for taking that bread to see well, 452 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: it's great to see you too, and we'll be back here. 453 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: You got it every Monday, So just set the set 454 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: the date, six thirty eight. 455 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: If I'm not here, I'll send stretch, all right,