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Speaker 1: you know, and you can see a day in the

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Speaker 1: day out, everybody whether they're looking for a tip from Harry,

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Speaker 1: looking for a tip from a veteran on the team.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just guys that want information. And with

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Speaker 1: that that formula alone allows you a good opportunity, a

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Speaker 1: you get the sense that that rookies have changed drastically

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Speaker 1: coming into the league now compared to when you entered

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Speaker 1: the league? Man, I think the game changes every every

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Speaker 1: every year. I think everything about it changes. Nothing ever

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Speaker 1: stays the same. But I would definitely say that these

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Speaker 1: guys who are more they're more on top of it

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Speaker 1: of their body, you know, they know what's necessary to win.

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Speaker 1: A good bit of the guys have family members that

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Speaker 1: have played in the NFL or have played sports, so

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Speaker 1: they have that knowledge automatically, you know. So a lot

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Speaker 1: that are coming out now are more aware. And I

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Speaker 1: like you get it, you know what I mean. Like

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Speaker 1: like Odell Beckham who was aware of his body or

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Speaker 1: That's important because they usually take you about until year,

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Speaker 1: until your second year, second second year in the league,

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Speaker 1: work and what you need to do with what you

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Speaker 1: don't need to do. Like now players understand those things.

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Speaker 1: They're more knowledgeable about how to handle money and things

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Speaker 1: like that. So it's really good, right right. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're you have an interesting perspective because obviously you played

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Speaker 1: and you played recently and you you know, you're sort

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, Jimmy Smith. Has not too many guys, you know.

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Speaker 1: few years, but there are players that that you played

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Speaker 1: you were a player. Yeah, my relationship is the same

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Speaker 1: You know. I'm I'm fortunate that you know, Ozzy and

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Speaker 1: and Harry have allowed me to be in this position

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Speaker 1: I don't have to be anything else. Just be myself

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Speaker 1: and help people get better. You know, that's my only goal,

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Speaker 1: you know. So nothing ever changed with the guys because

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Speaker 1: being myself doing the same thing is if I was playing,

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Speaker 1: I would be doing trying to give people information, trying

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Speaker 1: men at the same time. So that never changes, and

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Speaker 1: I always had a really good relationship with everyone. Do

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Speaker 1: you get the itch at all when you're out there

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Speaker 1: watching practice or do you say, you know what? I

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Speaker 1: like it more on this side. I don't have to

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Speaker 1: get hit when I'm standing on the sidelines. This is

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Speaker 1: kind of nice over here. Oh man, the way this

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Speaker 1: neck is situated. I don't want no problem. I let

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Speaker 1: them do all of the band. You man, they they

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Speaker 1: the warriors. Man, I'm like you say, I'm just the

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Speaker 1: soup now right. I feel that way too. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're standing there, you say, Okay, it's I'm hot right now,

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Speaker 1: but I can't imagine being out there in practice and

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Speaker 1: all those pads hitting. So it's kind of nice from

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Speaker 1: from where we stand. So you're also you know, you're

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Speaker 1: still you still have your gym right. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: still something that you're working on as well. Still have

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Speaker 1: NFK sports, creating, uh creating after school sports and elementary

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to do everything the way, the way

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Speaker 1: I can show everybody is possible because about touching it all.

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Speaker 1: When do you sleep? Man? That's great a Jamale. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're glad to have you back in the building and uh,

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Speaker 1: I look forward to working with you more this year

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Speaker 1: and you know for many years to come in So

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Speaker 1: congrats on the new gig and we're glad to have

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Speaker 1: you back. Always appreciate you and uh look forward to

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Speaker 1: see you in the office. Brother. All right, man, we

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Speaker 1: gotta give Ryan a hard time for dipping out today.

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Speaker 1: You know, at least some of us are still around

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Speaker 1: here to work, but make there's nowhere to be found,

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Speaker 1: so right exactly, someone's got to do the work to

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Speaker 1: keep the lights on around here. So and man, I

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Speaker 1: gotta to catch up and we'll talk against him, all right.

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Speaker 1: So thanks again to Jamil and we will be back

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Speaker 1: next week with another episode of lounge two weeks in

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Speaker 1: a row. I know last week we didn't have them.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back next week with safety Tony Jefferson. He's

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Speaker 1: getting adjusted to life here in Baltimore, so we're gonna

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Speaker 1: catch up with him and see what he thinks of

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Speaker 1: his new team. So if you have questions, comments you

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Speaker 1: want to email us, you can do that at the

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Speaker 1: lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. And also we

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Speaker 1: encourage you to leave a review let us know what

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Speaker 1: and get that done as well. Thanks for listening everyone,

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