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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff

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Speaker 1: I never told your production of iHeart Radio. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to another addition of Happy Hour. And I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's really apt to do this today, even though

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Speaker 1: your birthday, and I feel like we should begin Yes,

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Speaker 1: we're beginning out recordings by celebrating with a drink and

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Speaker 1: saying happy birthday, Annie, Thank you, thank you. You helped

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Speaker 1: make it very very special. You know, it is odd

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Speaker 1: to have another birthday in quarantined, and I kind of

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Speaker 1: totally forgot it was today, and so I woke up

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Speaker 1: and at all these text messages because my friends are lovely. Um,

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Speaker 1: but yes, thank you, thank you. I'm happy to be

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Speaker 1: here with you on day celebrating. Yes, so it is

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Speaker 1: August twenty four, the day of the birth of Andy,

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Speaker 1: as more aptly put. And yeah, we were coming in

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Speaker 1: with another fantastic brand from Freeland Spirits. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: again we're not sponsored by them. We found them, loved

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Speaker 1: what they were about, and we wanted to talk about

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Speaker 1: what they are doing and also taste their tasty beverages. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: and today we are drinking some wonderful cocktails. I say

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Speaker 1: wonderful as you and I had to kind of scramble, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because we talked about this a little before, how we

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Speaker 1: did not have the ingredients. We thought, yes, yes, including

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Speaker 1: the fruit that rotted very quickly. And I was like, what, so,

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Speaker 1: let's see, we have the dry gen or the navy

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Speaker 1: I made pretty much a gin and tonic, but I

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Speaker 1: use some rosemary with it. And I have to say,

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Speaker 1: it's really clean, and it's really delightful. How you know

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Speaker 1: how I feel about rosemary and gin one of my

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Speaker 1: am doing essentially I believe it's just so gin fizz.

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Speaker 1: But with that, what I've done is I muddled up

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Speaker 1: lime juice, lots of blackberries and basil, because again I

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Speaker 1: love arms and drinks. There's just something to it, a

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Speaker 1: have added a little too much lime juice. Just put

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Speaker 1: gin um and then topped it off with some sparkling

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Speaker 1: to show you I even have a little Yes, it's

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Speaker 1: a lovely color everyone, It's like a nice kind of

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Speaker 1: some basil in it. So hey, it counts, people, it counts.

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Speaker 1: I will say we've cheated a little bit because we've

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Speaker 1: had this gen for a little while, ready to go,

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Speaker 1: and I've been using it in so many drinks anyway,

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Speaker 1: And it is a great gen, y'all. And they are

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Speaker 1: based out of Oregon, Portland, Oregon to be specific. And

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Speaker 1: from their side, it says the company is named after

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Speaker 1: the owner, Jill Keiller. Her memal Freeland Which did you

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Speaker 1: have a mema? What did you have? I had a

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Speaker 1: Apparently they're from Texas and Mama Mama. That is very

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Speaker 1: they say they named it after mem All Freeland, who

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Speaker 1: Keiller and distiller Molly Troupe, who was noted to be

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Speaker 1: University in Scotland, which, by the way, the company was

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Speaker 1: this idea of making incredible gin. And they are all

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Speaker 1: any company that elevate and support other women. So thank

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Speaker 1: y'all for doing such an amazing job and making an

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Speaker 1: incredible GIN in the process. If you listen to any

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Speaker 1: Molly is a genius apparently with all of her knowledge

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Speaker 1: their side, they said that women have fifty more taste buds.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like you would know is this a true?

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Speaker 1: And I can't recall, so this is on me. I've

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Speaker 1: look it up. And for their tasting notes, Andy, did

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Speaker 1: It's hard to describe. We were kind of talking about

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Speaker 1: but bright. So it's like reminds me of like healthy

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Speaker 1: And from their own notes, it says it leaves with

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Speaker 1: Jennifer is backed up with notes of pine forest, multi spice,

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Speaker 1: then again they wrote, for all you rebels, define the

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Speaker 1: odds and breaking through the glass ceilings, we created a

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Speaker 1: navy streak gin because strong gals deserve strong gen agreed.

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Speaker 1: The aromatics are concentrated and bold tickling the senses with

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Speaker 1: hints of spice citrus pill and they ever present. Jennifer Barry,

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Speaker 1: our women own and operated distiller, offers the best of

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Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest in every sip um, And yeah, I

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Speaker 1: And I love that. But you know, as I'm thinking

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