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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Third hour of Clay and Buck kicksoff right now and

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Speaker 2: The New York Times with a big report from over

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Speaker 2: the weekend. Here's the headline, Sweeping rays, giant camps and

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Speaker 2: mass deportations inside Trump's twenty twenty five immigration plan. Now,

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Speaker 2: this is interesting when you break down the various pieces

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Speaker 2: of this Trump immigration policy. As I have been saying

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Speaker 2: to you, as we have been discussing with you here

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Speaker 2: on this show for well really the whole time we've

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Speaker 2: been on the show, the Biden border is the most

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Speaker 2: wide open and the most lawless and reckless border policy

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Speaker 2: that we have ever seen. We also recognize that the

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Speaker 2: cartels are becoming as rich from human trafficking as they

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Speaker 2: are from the drug smuggling of opens that are killing

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Speaker 2: around one hundred thousand Americans a year at this point.

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Speaker 2: So this is a massive problem. Not to mention, there's

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Speaker 2: also the high likelihood that if any terrorist group wanted

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Speaker 2: to infiltrate the United States across the southern border, they

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Speaker 2: would have almost no difficulty in doing so, And that

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Speaker 2: then brings us to what can be done about this.

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Speaker 2: The Democrats will do nothing other than continue the status

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Speaker 2: quo with even more resources to more rapidly process the

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Speaker 2: people illegally entering. Now, Donald Trump, if he were to

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Speaker 2: win and become president, has a very different plan clay,

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Speaker 2: and this goes to not only changing the incentive structures

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Speaker 2: US illegally, but the entire immigration system all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden would be rule of law based, which seems like

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Speaker 2: a shock. He would this is all, according to The

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Speaker 2: New York Times, scour the country for unauthorized immigrant deport

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Speaker 2: people buy the millions per year to help speed mass deportations.

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Speaker 2: Mister Trump is preparing an enormous expansion of a form

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Speaker 2: of removal that does not require due process hearings. He

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Speaker 2: would reassign other federal agents and deputize local police and

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Speaker 2: National Guard voluntarily contributed by Republican states so the State

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Speaker 2: of Texas wants to help out. State of Texas resources

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Speaker 2: will be used for this process. He wants to build

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Speaker 2: huge camps to detain people while their cases are processed

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Speaker 2: and they await deportation. No more catch and release into

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Speaker 2: the US, never to be seen again. He would, if necessary,

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Speaker 2: play to get around or refusal by Congress redirect money

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Speaker 2: in the military budget toward this process and do so

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Speaker 2: using his authority as commander in chief. And he would

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Speaker 2: follow quote the Eisenhower model, which was the largest domestic

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Speaker 2: deportation operation American history back in nineteen fifty for and

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Speaker 2: oh also end birthright citizenship. That's the key. That's the

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Speaker 2: key to me, and I'm trying to make sure we

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Speaker 2: get all the major that's a big one. Foreign students

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Speaker 2: who participate in anti Israeli pro Palestinian protests would have

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Speaker 2: their visas canceled, ending birthright citizenship. Okay, those are the

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Speaker 2: main points, Clay. This would be a map. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the biggest change an immigration policy we've seen in this

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Speaker 2: country in our lifetimes.

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Speaker 3: I've just focused for a long time on incentives because

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Speaker 3: that's really all you can kind of analyze, and the

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Speaker 3: incentives in America are broken in terms of trying to

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Speaker 3: stop illegal immigration. There are two primary incentives, and I

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Speaker 3: think this is important to hammer home time after time.

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Speaker 3: One is there are far more jobs that are high

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Speaker 3: paying here in the United States than there are in

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Speaker 3: any of the countries that the people are trying to

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Speaker 3: enter from. It's very difficult to stop that incentive from existing.

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Speaker 3: It just is second one though, birthright citizenship must end,

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Speaker 3: and I've heard Vivek speak out aggressively on this. It's

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Speaker 3: important to just have this debate and this conversation. There

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Speaker 3: is no reasonable, rational process by which we should allow

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Speaker 3: you to become a citizen solely based on being born

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Speaker 3: in the United States. That is so called right of

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Speaker 3: soil citizenship. If your parents are citizens, you should be

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Speaker 3: a citizen. That's I think, without dispute, no matter where

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Speaker 3: to become a United States citizen just because somebody sneaks

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Speaker 3: and we have to end it, and the camps and

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Speaker 3: all those other things. I think that's going to be

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Speaker 3: very hard to implement. Speaking rationally, and remember Trump would

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Speaker 3: birthright citizenship is the one that it's supremely important to

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Speaker 3: to analyze whether right of soil citizenship should exist and

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Speaker 3: is in fact United States law or not. It's it's

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Speaker 3: in my opinion not and that is a that is

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Speaker 2: What about the deportation of massive numbers of people, the

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Speaker 2: deputizing of state and local law enforcement that's willing to

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Speaker 2: I like the concept, I think in practice it would

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Speaker 2: be very difficult to implement. Tell me more why I

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Speaker 3: First of all, you're gonna let's say that we know

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Speaker 3: that they're twenty million ears eagles here right. Let's say

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Speaker 3: that's the number, and that might be low. Do you

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Speaker 3: know how many plane flights it would take to get

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Speaker 3: twenty million illegals deported out of the United States? Most

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Speaker 3: of these people would have to be flown somewhere. I

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Speaker 3: don't know that we have the capacity to even move

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't be it wouldn't be twenty million in a

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Speaker 2: year obviously, but what about even over four years? Just

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that we have the capacity to I

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Speaker 3: mean just think, I mean a standard plane could put

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Speaker 2: Well to get to Yeah, I mean it would Obviously

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Speaker 2: this would be a large scale process. That's why they

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Speaker 2: brought off the Eisenhower deportation proceedings that back in the

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Speaker 2: fifty or the deportation plan. Yeah, how many did they deport?

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Speaker 2: Then I'd have to look it up. One hundred, but

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Speaker 2: I think I think it might have gotten over a million.

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Speaker 2: But the issue here, clay would become first of all,

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Speaker 2: in any given year. I mean, if you look at

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Speaker 2: of thousands. Yeah, that's not that that's not that strange.

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Speaker 2: And to the point about incentives, if you talk about

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Speaker 2: birthright citizenship, that's obviously a big change and should be

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Speaker 2: a big change. You should not be able to play

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Speaker 2: this game of I came to the US illegal, I

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Speaker 2: had a child here, I violated the law. But now

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Speaker 2: that's a citizen. And we know this because there are

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Speaker 2: people who are criminally prosecuted for operating, you know, operations,

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Speaker 2: And this is more in the context of Asian birth

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Speaker 2: to do that. Well, why aren't you allowed to do that?

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Speaker 2: If that's not a problem, right, Well, clearly there's an

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Speaker 2: the calculation for people coming here illegally, because right now,

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Speaker 2: if you get into the country, it's like a ninety

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Speaker 2: so if it's a nine out of ten shot that

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Speaker 2: the deportation numbers are high enough that people say, I

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Speaker 2: of the migrants. This was in New York City. They

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Speaker 2: And this just goes and others are saying the American

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Speaker 2: be please please take me America, because if you don't,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be imprison tortured and killed for my race,

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Speaker 2: my religion, my political belief something like that. And what

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Speaker 2: we see with these individuals who are like, wait a second,

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Speaker 2: I thought I was getting a four star hotel in

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Speaker 2: free housing. Is they're here because it's a giant welfare state.

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Speaker 2: They're here because they can skip the immigration process. They're

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Speaker 2: I come back to incientives.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember when we talked about they were taking

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Speaker 3: these people in this facility. They had access to a

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Speaker 3: If I told you right now, and you're out there listening,

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Speaker 3: You're going to get to have access to a pool,

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have Wi Fi, and all of your meals

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Speaker 3: sounds like to almost everybody out there listening, an incredible

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Speaker 2: And that's people who are already living in America.

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Speaker 3: And conceivably have the ability to live with American values,

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Speaker 3: already American wealth. In other words, you're not stunned when

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Speaker 3: this on Hannity the other night. Just take it outside

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Speaker 3: of America. How many of our listeners right now if

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Speaker 3: you can make forty x whatever you're making in America

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Speaker 3: I mean, buck, There are tons of people out there

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Speaker 3: If you could forty x your salary by crossing into

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Speaker 2: Would do that.

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Speaker 3: So the incentive structure is a challenge because our lifestyle

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Speaker 2: And this is why you need to send people back

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Speaker 2: whether it's Green card holders, US citizendants, et cetera. We

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Speaker 2: And I think that the more people understand that a

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Speaker 2: Now we can? All right, So let's start with this one. Vivike.

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Speaker 2: So would you vote for her if she were the nominee?

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Speaker 1: Then I think I will be a failed American. If

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Speaker 1: I think that the American people see in the truth,

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Speaker 1: called a publican, I don't think that that would cause

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Speaker 2: Why do you think she dislikes you so much?

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Speaker 3: Because it does seem personal, like the way that she's

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Speaker 3: gone after you. I mean, you raised the point that

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Speaker 3: to genuinely not like you. Where do you think that

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Speaker 1: I think it comes from a deep seated envy of

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Speaker 1: swords actually, and as the woman who's never made an

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Speaker 1: honest dime in the private sector but clearly inspires to

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Speaker 1: be wealthy and sees me as I think a young

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Speaker 2: Of I get you, I get you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a young buck who you know, I think hasn't

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Speaker 1: that someone like her has. You know, funny stories. The

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Speaker 1: first time we met was actually her reaching out to

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Speaker 1: me years ago when I was writing woke in Actually, Buck,

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Speaker 1: this is when you and I first met in the

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Speaker 2: We did that awesome event up in Milwaukee for like

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Speaker 2: fifteen hundred people. That was great.

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Speaker 1: That was awesome. Right, So this is I think actually

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Speaker 1: begin to get attention as a CEO who was pointing

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Speaker 1: out the perils of corporate wokeness long before people knew

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Speaker 1: what that word was. And there was something striking about it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, she was. It was a very calculating move, right,

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Speaker 1: this guy could be a player. I want to be

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Speaker 1: the first person probably to reek out to make sure

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Speaker 1: from getting him on my side, he ends up blurbing

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Speaker 1: the back of the book. So this is somebody who

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Speaker 1: for her entire career has proven she will do literally

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Speaker 1: you can look at the full extent of her past

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Speaker 1: in South Carolina. She will do literally whatever is required

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Speaker 1: to get ahead. And I think scratching the backs of

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Speaker 1: companies for special favors. Boeing got their back scratched by her.

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Speaker 1: She ends up joining the board of Boeing. Afterwards, rides

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Speaker 1: on private and them pharmaceutical company and then ends up

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Speaker 1: doing special state contracts for them, and other details which

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Speaker 1: I will leave it to others to look up that

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Speaker 1: are outside the financial realm. But somebody who will literally

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Speaker 1: do anything to get ahead for another unit to froll in.

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Speaker 1: Her reach out to me years ago and establishing contact

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Speaker 1: when I early began to be a rising star was

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Speaker 1: just another example of that. But to her now to

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Speaker 1: say that out of turn to challenge her past the power,

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Speaker 1: I think that she does take that very personally. But

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Speaker 1: you know, frankly, even in this conversation, I think we've

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Speaker 1: spent too much on somebody who is really just another

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Speaker 1: manifestation of a modern Dick Cheney that has no place

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Speaker 1: in the modern Republican party or should well, I can

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Speaker 1: tell you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, since that last debate, a lot of people have

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Speaker 2: been wondering what your your and her true feelings are

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Speaker 2: about each other in this race. So we appreciate that

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Speaker 2: you've at least had your say on this one. And

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Speaker 2: I did want to ask, you know. We spoke to

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Speaker 2: former President Trump last week, Clay and I for an

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Speaker 2: hour here on the air, and he seemed fired up

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Speaker 2: for the fight ahead and unfazed by all the legal

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Speaker 2: challenges against him. And you know, I think that there's

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Speaker 2: We've been talking about second choice candidates for different people,

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Speaker 2: and and you know where the support ebbs and flows

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Speaker 2: for different candidates. A lot of Trump people like you

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Speaker 2: a lot and a lot of people that maybe even

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Speaker 2: your their first choice, would say, well, Trump is my

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Speaker 2: second choice. What do you say to anybody who says

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Speaker 2: that this just isn't your time. Let Trump finish the race.

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Speaker 2: You can help him, and then you can be in

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Speaker 2: a position for the next round.

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Speaker 1: Look, I think that decision belongs to the voters of

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Speaker 1: this country. I mean, I respect Donald Trump immensely, and

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Speaker 1: he and I have a good relationship with mutual respect.

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Speaker 1: He was an excellent president and the reason he's polling

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Speaker 1: so well right now is he kept us out of

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Speaker 1: World War three and he grew the economy. So I've

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Speaker 1: unlike the other candidates, and actually, guys, this is actually

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Speaker 1: one that that's kind of funny to me. Is every

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Speaker 1: other candidate, from Nikki to Ron to otherwise licked his

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Speaker 1: boot for some special favors for years, usually money or

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Speaker 1: endorsements are both, And now is Monday Morning quarterbacking him

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Speaker 1: on some small thing that he didn't do perfectly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm my contrast, I've not licked trump boot. Trump's boot

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Speaker 1: for years, even the net Woking book tour. I sat

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Speaker 1: down at dinner with him, but I've never sucked up

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Speaker 1: to the guy before. But I stand actually for his

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Speaker 1: record now when everybody else after him. Not because in

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Speaker 1: myself interest in this race to do it be easier

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Speaker 1: for med from competition, but it's the right thing to

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Speaker 1: do affect him. There's two America First candidates, but I

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Speaker 1: think the voters deserve to get the choice they have,

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Speaker 1: which is do you want the prior generation of it?

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Speaker 1: Or do you want the next generation of it? And

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Speaker 1: I think I have fresh legs. I'm able to reach

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Speaker 1: the next generation in the new generation. So I can't

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Speaker 1: offer what Trump does, which is to say experience. He's

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Speaker 1: you know, done it before, that's tried and true, and

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Speaker 1: if that's what people want to go with, then he's

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Speaker 1: going to be the nominee.

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Speaker 2: I think we.

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Speaker 1: I think we're lost and do we want to reach him?

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Speaker 3: The vague last question for you, I presume that you're

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Speaker 3: going to be on the stage in December, Uh, do

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Speaker 3: you think anybody else should drop out? In your mind,

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Speaker 3: Tim Scott is out. I saw you had nice words

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Speaker 3: about him. I know it seemed that you guys got

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Speaker 1: For the debate state. Can you hear me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you think you're going to qualify for the debate

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Speaker 3: stage in December? And do you think anybody else should

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Speaker 3: drop out? I heard him say he's already qualified. But

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Speaker 3: I think we I think we've had a bad sell

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe Nicky Haley's people are sabotaging the

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Speaker 2: We'll come back. We'll let you all react.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate the fake hanging out with us, a lot

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Speaker 2: We'll let you weigh in as well. Can I also

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Speaker 3: When we finished the last segment, I was asking if

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Speaker 1: So I have qualified for the fourth debate, and I

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Speaker 1: I have not spoken directly. It is interesting. I've seen

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Speaker 1: all disastrous results for Republicans. So yeah, I do think

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Speaker 1: thing for an R and C chairwoman to be doing.

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Speaker 1: Said that I would not get another cent from the

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Speaker 1: proves the point that it's their corruption of the institution.

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Speaker 1: It's like a squadron, a rent controlled apartment that starts

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Speaker 1: of course, and yet you have the chair woman of

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Speaker 1: the RNC is saying that about a candidate actively in

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Speaker 1: outstanding job of continuing to prove my point, saying that

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Speaker 1: haven't spoken directly, but in the in the barbs she's

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Speaker 1: been trying to issue in the media, I think she's

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Speaker 1: been scoring a lot of own goals and proving the

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Speaker 1: point that it's time for new leadership at the RNC.

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Speaker 2: The vague you set up on the debate stage that

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Speaker 2: you and I don't want to miss quote you, but basically,

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Speaker 2: it's not going to be Biden, that whoever wins up

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Speaker 2: here is facing off against I will say, just for

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Speaker 2: the purpose of clarity, I disagree with you on this point,

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Speaker 2: but I want to know why you're so confident. Clay

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Speaker 2: agrees with you, just so you know. Yeah, Stay, you

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Speaker 2: got play in your corner for whatever, for whatever that's worth.

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Speaker 2: But I'm on the other side of this one. I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm in the other corner. Why are you confident that

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Speaker 2: it won't be Biden? And more importantly than that, I actually,

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Speaker 2: you know, let's gip that we all know why he's

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Speaker 2: falling around, he's too old, all that. But what happens

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Speaker 2: if it's not Biden? What do you think happens? I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're in this race, so you've got to be looking

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Speaker 2: a few steps down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The part of the reason that Birthdays have a

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Speaker 1: strong instinct about this is, you know that document's case

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Speaker 1: against Biden. You don't hear a ton about it. That

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Speaker 1: probe on Hunter Biden, you don't hear a ton about it.

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Speaker 1: They've purposefully kept that in purrogatory in sort of a

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Speaker 1: middle halfway position such that if he doesn't get out

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Speaker 1: of the way, when the managerial class and the deep

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Speaker 1: state and the puffet masters of both parties, including the

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Speaker 1: DNC want him to get out of the way, that's

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Speaker 1: when they pull those levers. And they're perfectly prime to

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Speaker 1: do it because they can say, oh, now we're just

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Speaker 1: applying it in a bipart is the manner could we

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Speaker 1: did it to Trump? When the reality is that had

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with the Republican the Democrats, and everything

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Speaker 1: to do with the shadow government and the deep state

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Speaker 1: deciding who actually was going to be the convenient puppet

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Speaker 1: they were going to be advancing. And so the reality is,

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Speaker 1: I think the way they see it is they're going

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Speaker 1: to wait for the Trump trials to really get underway

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Speaker 1: and then swap out Biden for the person likely Gavin Newsom,

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Speaker 1: if not somebody else. It's going to be like him

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Speaker 1: that they slipped into that spot. And I think the

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Speaker 1: country would better sort that they were stepped up and

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Speaker 1: we're honest about it. So I'll call out the RNC,

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Speaker 1: I'll call out the Democrats, I'll call out the media.

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Speaker 1: It's the truth three hundred and sixty degrees around, and

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Speaker 1: that one is my honest instinct of what's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Last question for you, appreciate you making the time today.

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Speaker 3: You've been one hundred percent right on something Buck and

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Speaker 3: I have been hammering for a while too, the Nashville Manifesto,

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Speaker 3: the Transhooter, that it needs to be one hundred percent released.

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Speaker 3: We saw a few pages of it. There is a

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Speaker 3: desperate fight to prevent that from being released to the

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Speaker 3: American public.

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Speaker 2: What should happen. Why do you think it's being covered up?

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Speaker 1: Release it period. We the people can handle the truth.

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Speaker 1: We've been lied to from the premise of the war

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Speaker 1: in I Rock to the Trump Russia collusion hoax that

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Speaker 1: never was. That's why I called Kristen Welker on stage

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Speaker 1: on NBC. I called her out on it. They pushed

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Speaker 1: that for years. We need accountability for that, the Hunter

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Speaker 1: Biden laptop story, that was real origin of COVID nineteen.

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Speaker 1: How many federal agents were in the field on January sixth.

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Speaker 1: Just tell us the truth, even when it's ugly. We

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Speaker 1: deserve the truth. That's how we rebuild trunks in this country.

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Speaker 1: I went to Nashville personally in early August when the

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Speaker 1: Republican governor called a special legislative session to pass anti

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Speaker 1: gun measures. You have no right to pass additional laws

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Speaker 1: without the using this as a catalyst to do it,

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Speaker 1: without releasing to the public the truth of what actually

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Speaker 1: happened here. When an airplane crashes, you recover the black

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Speaker 1: box because you want to make sure something like that

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Speaker 1: never happens again. But when it's a transgender shooter shooting

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Speaker 1: up six people at a Christian school, somehow, that's the

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Speaker 1: basis for hiding it.

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Speaker 2: Vig Ramaswami, everybody but vague. We got to leave it there,

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Speaker 2: my friends. At the end of the show, thanks for

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Speaker 2: being here with us. Team. We'll talk to you tomorrow.