WEBVTT - The Spice 1 Episode : "Me & Pac Stayed Blunted"

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<v Speaker 1>I got my dog in here shit, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>we got the legend theory journalistic straord. There s Baker,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up everybody? And you know we doing this Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 1>style man, you know it's Thanksgiving. Man, I can't ask them,

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<v Speaker 1>the homies to come off with ours Thanksgiving? Is we

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a own cooking turkeys or roots and all

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<v Speaker 1>that other good stuff? You know what I'm saying. So

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<v Speaker 1>were doing this the lives train tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>We got Alex in the motherfucking house man, dude that

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<v Speaker 1>had two albums in the top fifty Gangster Round albums

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<v Speaker 1>of all time, Spikes One What's That? And the Dog

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<v Speaker 1>What is It? Madden? It was faddening my guy. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, man, everybody been asking us to have

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<v Speaker 1>you back. They was like, man, why you didn't ask

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<v Speaker 1>them about this? Why you didn't ask me about that

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<v Speaker 1>last time? So we said we would have to have

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<v Speaker 1>another one where we go a little bit more in

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<v Speaker 1>debt with you, man, as far as all the legendary

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<v Speaker 1>stuff you don't done, man, a man, I appreciate it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I'm saying. You know it's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been what thirty years, so you know that's that's thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years of his the historic gainst the rap shit. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. Oh for sure, yes, indeed, yes indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>And you happen to get put in the game by

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<v Speaker 1>one of the pioneers in the game Man as far

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<v Speaker 1>as Street Rep Go and the penthology Man too Short

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<v Speaker 1>of Himself? Man, ar did you wake up with Too Short? Man?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, sure you used to come come

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<v Speaker 3>pick me up from school back in.

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<v Speaker 1>The day because I was like sixteen. You got an

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<v Speaker 1>album called The Dangers Crew. You know. Uh, it was

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<v Speaker 1>crazy because I took the album back to the school.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I was walking back to school with the album.

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<v Speaker 3>Shit that showed everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you know I got an album Too Short,

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, yeah, you know, even back then, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just letting motherfuckers know. Whileman, even in high school, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, what I was kind of knew

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<v Speaker 1>what I was dead it for, you know, knew what

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<v Speaker 1>my uh my final destination would beat it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>took up with my guy him. He ain't to do

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<v Speaker 1>some gates and rap ship. You know the own up

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<v Speaker 1>right quick?

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<v Speaker 5>Spice what you got hanging by you some pantyholes or

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<v Speaker 5>purse or something hanging by you.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't want, dog, I'm in I'm in Japan, man, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking. I'm looking at that. I'm looking. Let's see Steel,

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell is that by your head? While didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get it's a Jeff and left. I'm not even talking

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<v Speaker 1>I'm my bad spice. I'm not even talking about you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about Steel lad. What then yeah, what the

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<v Speaker 1>hell is that still in the corner? Then? Yeah, what's

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<v Speaker 1>that one? Nigga? That's a bad dog. Stay, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>Beatus bag dog. They look at three undred dollars bag

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that motherfucker looked like an old fucking thing your

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<v Speaker 1>grandma used to have hanging on the bathroom door when

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<v Speaker 1>she used to have to, you know, clean that clean

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<v Speaker 1>that twad out. That's what that looked like. That nigga

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<v Speaker 1>said it was some petties, pattyeholes or something hanging on.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get back to the interview, don't go. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you linked them were too short, right?

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<v Speaker 4>And and then yeah, wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So you linked up with short man. And what happened

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<v Speaker 1>after that? When did you like like like whatever, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he you know, he picked me up with uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, one of the biggest de boys in

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<v Speaker 1>the tail at that time and in the bay you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>well when in the tail, you know, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even really know who the cat was in

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<v Speaker 1>the back seat.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he was just one of the biggest bosses

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<v Speaker 3>in the town at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. He was he was. He

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<v Speaker 1>was really really relevant. You know, we in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the Bay, we in the in the in the Bay,

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<v Speaker 1>we call a nigga a factor. It's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's you know, if he's sticking out, if he's

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<v Speaker 1>standing out, we call him a factor. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>dude was a factor in the town. When I say

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<v Speaker 1>to town, I mean open you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So dude was a factor in the town. But I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know. You know what I'm saying. I'm a youngster.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I hop in the car. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>started talking to shit, don't hang with ass nigga. I'm like, oh, nigga,

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<v Speaker 1>you know because he was he was. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>chubby nigga.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, yeah, nigga, you you're a professional.

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<v Speaker 1>Birthday cake even ask nigga, you don't be the first

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<v Speaker 1>nigga to kept the cake and everybody else birthday party.

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<v Speaker 1>I just got on him, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Who I got So, I mean, you know, but uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we turned out to be real good friends.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. So I'm and we go up to the

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<v Speaker 1>studio and record, and you know, every time the uh

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<v Speaker 1>police rode by looking for somebody else. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>had started looking around thigging it ain't chasing you, nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I didn't know, but they I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>his ands brother. Yeah, we we was around. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was around a lot of a lot of ship

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<v Speaker 1>back then in the town. But you know, Pops was

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<v Speaker 1>a real serious dude. I remember he he caught us

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<v Speaker 1>short up to the house one day and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he told me, he was like, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>need the hollow red too short.

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<v Speaker 3>I need the hollow Red hallboys shortened and his manager and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you know, damn, you know what do you

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<v Speaker 1>what do you want to how he gonna fuck everything up?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? So, but Pops, I guess, you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>was just you know, he just told you know, shorten

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<v Speaker 1>them to you know, make sure take care and take

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<v Speaker 1>care of his his son and make sure he's straightened

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, you knowuse he came back and told me

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<v Speaker 1>what he told him. He said, I you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>told him, you know, make sure that you're straightened, you

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<v Speaker 1>take care of you, make sure you ain't up in

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<v Speaker 1>the bullshit and all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm thinking back of my head, Pops, I'm already

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<v Speaker 3>in the bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>Him so short, So the short John well no after

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<v Speaker 1>uh what this was like eighty I was I was

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<v Speaker 1>like sixteen back then. This was like eighty six when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a rocket was short from the from the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning after you know, sixteen, maybe uh for the four

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<v Speaker 1>to six years later, four years later, I'm I'm eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty and uh I read I put out one eighty

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<v Speaker 1>seventh proofs. Uh. He was in all of the record

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<v Speaker 1>stores and uh it was independent so that uh r record. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was on Triad Records and and uh with Georgia Willis.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when you know, that's what Barry called. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>uh this guy named Pizzo, Uh Piso to beat fixer.

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<v Speaker 1>You know we I'm talking about a ot Pizzo. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the east of DJ was short en forty. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So I guess, uh, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was at Piso House in uh uh Jive records. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the representatives called and it was very wise.

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<v Speaker 1>He was Mordary. He was running. You know, he's running.

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<v Speaker 1>He can call it t that's the biggest dollars charge.

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<v Speaker 1>And he called and he like, you know, where's where's

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<v Speaker 1>Spikes one at? He asking, uh, Piso, where I'm at?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sitting there, like, tell on right here, tell

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<v Speaker 1>on right here, Piso, like you know, hold on, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let you there's some serious ship man. Lets you lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>talk to this nigga man. You know what I'm saying, so,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then eventually I connected with with Barry

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<v Speaker 1>and and got them in touch with my lawyers and

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<v Speaker 1>everything and and my people and management and stuff, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from then on, you know, that's when we

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<v Speaker 1>we we dropped h the whole album. We took the

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<v Speaker 1>songs from the first EP and added some more another

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<v Speaker 1>eight or nine songs, and and released the first Spikes

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<v Speaker 1>One album on John for the show. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's saying about give records from eugenk on you. But

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<v Speaker 1>then say Job don't like bringing motherfuckers. And they had

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<v Speaker 1>the same experience with the people he he was fucking

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<v Speaker 1>with over there. Joe's job ass records man Jugy J

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<v Speaker 1>said they never saw a royalty from that motherfucker you

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<v Speaker 1>angle man or that was that was shit.

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<v Speaker 5>Nobody I can speak on that. That's because you was

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<v Speaker 5>getting budget. We was getting budgets of anywhere between two

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<v Speaker 5>fifty and three hundred grand, okay, And they looked at

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<v Speaker 5>it like a lot of you niggas is doing your

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<v Speaker 5>own shit.

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<v Speaker 1>You get me.

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<v Speaker 5>So, because that's where it blamed with me. I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>see a royal t check because they spending more than

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<v Speaker 5>you making back. They're gonna recoup what ninety percent of what.

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<v Speaker 1>They give you.

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<v Speaker 5>Right we're making what you lucky to make seventy cents

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<v Speaker 5>of record, okay, So you ain't gonna see a royalty

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<v Speaker 5>check because we gave you three hundred and fifty up front.

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<v Speaker 1>Right then you got what three videos?

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<v Speaker 5>We spend about eighty five to one hundred grand on videos.

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<v Speaker 5>So when you think they're like, yeah, man, I have

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<v Speaker 5>sold a platinum record, nigga, I'll fit see some bread,

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<v Speaker 5>they gonna know that motherfucking million and something that you

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<v Speaker 5>owe is coming out of your seventy six. It don't

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<v Speaker 5>come out of the motherfucking Yeah, you sold a million records,

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<v Speaker 5>so about seven to ten million came in, But no,

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<v Speaker 5>you still owe us a million point whatever out of

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<v Speaker 5>your seventy six out of your you owe us one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and you owe us a million and something. So

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<v Speaker 5>that's why a lot of niggas try to be smart

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<v Speaker 5>and take that budget and pocket that budget. You get

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<v Speaker 5>me that advance, so to speak. So if you're a

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<v Speaker 5>nigga controlling your own destiny, you get me and you

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<v Speaker 5>walking in there and you like, yeah, I'm eight Hype

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<v Speaker 5>Productions nigga. I'm finna produce MC eight's new record, and

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<v Speaker 5>blah blah blah. They finish cut me a check for

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<v Speaker 5>three hundred grand, and then I'm finna go back to

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<v Speaker 5>the house and I'm finna record that motherfucking my motherfucking

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<v Speaker 5>BATHROOMK or my bedrounk.

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<v Speaker 1>You get me and I'm finna cut and then.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm feel Then I'm fin the motherfucking double back, and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm finna produce the motherfucking myself, me and DJ Slip.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm finna break Slip or whatever. I'm finnla soon because.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have a budget, Like right, my budget ain't

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<v Speaker 5>a fucking Doctor Dre or Snoop Dogg's budget.

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<v Speaker 1>I a fucking MC eight budget. With him.

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<v Speaker 5>You get me, I can't afford to give a nigga

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<v Speaker 5>thirty thousand a track how they was getting back in

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<v Speaker 5>the days. You get me, I can't. I can't afford

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<v Speaker 5>to give a nigga one hundred thousand in a track.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm finn learn how to turn this fucking in

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<v Speaker 5>PC on and get with my nigga slip and we

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<v Speaker 5>find to produce this motherfucking record.

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<v Speaker 1>So there go. I keep that money you getting.

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<v Speaker 5>I keep the production because if you was a nigga

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<v Speaker 5>from our erain, you wasn't getting no royal teacher back.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just that it was royal.

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<v Speaker 5>But I don't even get no LEAs niggas eight off

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<v Speaker 5>of them advances and offer show money.

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<v Speaker 1>Period about it. The cold part about that is if

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<v Speaker 1>they spent two hundred thousand all releasing your album all together,

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<v Speaker 1>you know they gonna say, you know, we spent two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thous releasing your album. We won't we need seventy

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<v Speaker 1>seventy cent out of need. We need to do our

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<v Speaker 1>money back out of your seventy cent record. When you

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<v Speaker 1>when you do the math, you know, because I look

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<v Speaker 1>at my album, I say, okay, you know ceds was

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<v Speaker 1>going for about you know, uh shit, then little twenty

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a a CD, you know, nineteen eighteen thousand a

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<v Speaker 1>CD or whatever motherfucker CDs times times that by nine

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand. That wasn't what we was getting off. You see.

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<v Speaker 5>That's that's come from the step that comes from the

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<v Speaker 5>motherfucking distributors.

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<v Speaker 1>You give me the distributors.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, the distributors were body shit from motherfuckers like Sony

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<v Speaker 5>and them for about nine ninety nine or ten dollars

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<v Speaker 5>and fifty two cents. That's what their motherfucking CD sold for.

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<v Speaker 5>Right now, once they get the motherfucking tower or some

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<v Speaker 5>tower gonna rank that motherfuck up to what steal fifteen

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<v Speaker 5>ninety nine, sixteen ninety nine. But I know as a

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<v Speaker 5>motherfucker basically the record labels sold, they product to the

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<v Speaker 5>one stops in the whatever you buy a motherfucker for

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<v Speaker 5>nine ninety nine or ten dollars in fifty two cents.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually yeh, because you gotta remember the record company they

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<v Speaker 1>getting anywhere when it first came out during the first

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<v Speaker 1>ninety days, they might give it up for seven dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and he were from six dollars to seven dollars. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they trying to do that chromo clomo. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you rushing by a certain amount within that first

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<v Speaker 1>thirty days, they'll let you get it for seven bucks. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta remember they was charging for shelf space back then.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you had like the inn cap like at

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<v Speaker 1>the Tower Records or a listening station or whatever, they

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<v Speaker 1>may give it to him for five dollars. Then you know, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody made money except the artists exactly. They were selling

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<v Speaker 1>merchandise too, you know, like we would do big tours

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, I did a tour with me r

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly uh Nia uh h town and uh too short

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<v Speaker 1>and and uh and scarfaks and uh. We was at

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<v Speaker 1>Graanlin State University. And you know I have I had

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<v Speaker 1>Roger Travels tour bus. He let me use a tour

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<v Speaker 1>bus of forty was forty was uh it was in

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<v Speaker 1>his own tour bus, you know, right behind us doing

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<v Speaker 1>his doing his own thing. He funded his own ship.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he was a hustler, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And I and I brought forty along with us and

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<v Speaker 1>and we we tour. We was tors doing shows. They

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<v Speaker 1>was getting money from the T shirt and because what

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<v Speaker 1>we I pull up. I pulled up to Grayland State University,

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<v Speaker 1>man and I seen, you know, my fans with with

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<v Speaker 1>Spice one hats, T shirts, uh jackets, the Saint Jackets

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<v Speaker 1>of War. They hair done like mine, you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>the with the braids and ship like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know as far as the merchandise, and we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see no money from that ship either. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>see no merch no money from the merchant stuff from

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<v Speaker 1>the big tours and shows. I didn't see a dying

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<v Speaker 1>from none of that ship. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything I got now I had to hustle for. I

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<v Speaker 1>take more money now than I did when I was

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<v Speaker 1>signed to that madge la. And that's damn Shane, that's you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. One of the things I wanted to ask you, Spickes.

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<v Speaker 1>You real respected in the game. You did a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of songs with a lot of people. Right. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that people keep asking about is your Tupac collaborations.

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<v Speaker 1>Hout that you look up with him. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you, Brody to kill well. When I met Packy,

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<v Speaker 1>he was already a fan and we had just he

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<v Speaker 1>had just did juicing and we was on a ceter

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<v Speaker 1>in my neighborhood video. He was already a fan of

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<v Speaker 1>I was already a fan of him just from saying

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson and just from he and around the town. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>his music with Digital Underground and all of that ship

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<v Speaker 1>because we was we used to we used to perform

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<v Speaker 1>uh late nights in Frisco at the play um uh

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<v Speaker 1>with me and Hammer used to be there Digital Underground.

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<v Speaker 1>I've come through, you know, spit some ship or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But I heard Abouttom around around that time. But he

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<v Speaker 1>just came up to the video. Was like Spice, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>was cracking uh and he's spending that. He was spending

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<v Speaker 1>the Uh. He knew the words to the fucking stutter a.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he was kepting them in his frame with

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<v Speaker 1>then he was picky, you know what I'm saying. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh that Shiit Niggan know the words and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from then on we that was my nick

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. And then we just started

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<v Speaker 1>kicking it. We recorded a lot of songs, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time we just driving around smoking weed,

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<v Speaker 1>getting high. You know how we used to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight We just drive around. Niggas have forty ounces. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was the nineties. We have forties Hen

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<v Speaker 1>and THEE and we hollering at the females riding down

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<v Speaker 1>the black five six deep in the car, riding around.

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<v Speaker 1>We be riding around Lake Bearing or something. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. When they where they just named the

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<v Speaker 1>street after him, Uh Tupac and uh MacArthur way over

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<v Speaker 1>there by the lake. So that's all I was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Pack and we was like, uh, I think I was

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty and he was like light team. We couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>even buy alcohol. Yeah, it was even too young even

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<v Speaker 1>buy buy alcohol. Hey, this thuf is kind of for

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<v Speaker 1>both of y'all. Then I'm gonna like you get yours off.

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<v Speaker 1>So and the nineties was like here the what's era? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the light of these was kind of you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>everybody was kind of getting getting used to the to

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<v Speaker 1>the game or you know, niggas was you know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of street niggas was just getting used to having money,

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<v Speaker 1>so especially legal money through the rap gag. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. If they if they knew how to

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<v Speaker 1>hold their own and and and push their own weight

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, uh, you know, hustling a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>hustle the game because it was all about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how good your music was and how you could hustle it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I learned a lot of my tactics, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from from selling drugs back in the day. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you got the you got the best dope. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just gave out a few few uh uh few

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<v Speaker 1>few of my my uh CDs or tapes that I

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<v Speaker 1>had made, and I know they were it was hot,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I know it was hot, and you give

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<v Speaker 1>out a few of them. He could he come to

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<v Speaker 1>thiends he come to rap things, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know it's just like Ice T did the

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<v Speaker 1>song Pusher. He was talking about, you know, I'm your pushing.

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<v Speaker 1>He was pushing uh dope ass music and dope uh

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<v Speaker 1>tape and sets and CDs back in the day. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it switched up to you know because because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you took that that hut happened free and you put

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<v Speaker 1>it into your to your to your music, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So yeah, hell yeah, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>motherfuckers was new to get money back then. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's about the go ahead of saying, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Was gonna say the music, Solda self, because you had

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of great uh not only stories on there,

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<v Speaker 6>but you had great production with A.

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<v Speaker 4>Banks, she had Blackjack, E. S.

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<v Speaker 1>C M T. And they all were on the first album.

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<v Speaker 1>So what did you see and.

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<v Speaker 6>What did each one of the production people you worked

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<v Speaker 6>would really bring to the splice on the album that

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<v Speaker 6>you thought was different and distinctive.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Banks and C. M T and E. A. Ski

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<v Speaker 1>all three of them actually played instruments. You know. They

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<v Speaker 1>all actually knew how to play the keyboard and the guitar,

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<v Speaker 1>and they knew how to actually make music.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. That was definitely a plus.

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<v Speaker 1>It brought out a lot, brought a lot out in

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<v Speaker 1>me when I heard real music, Uh, chords and strings

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<v Speaker 1>and ship you know, my my imagination and uh started

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<v Speaker 1>just going there, you know what I'm saying. So you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it does matter when the when the beat, the beat

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<v Speaker 1>does bring out something in you as a as a

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<v Speaker 1>rap artist.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't make music.

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<v Speaker 1>I can. I could have told them, I could have

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<v Speaker 1>told them what I wanted and they'd give me exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what I wanted. Even slip you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember Slip, Uh you know talking about he I tell

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<v Speaker 1>Slip you know what I wanted. You know, they played

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he knew how to how to get down.

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<v Speaker 1>You know back in the day. Uh, artists was real artists, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Uh, then they know how to play instruments.

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<v Speaker 1>So they brought that a lot of that, they brought

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<v Speaker 1>that to to to me, that was that was something

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<v Speaker 1>new to me when I when I first started dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with them.

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<v Speaker 4>And then Blackjack also doesn't get a lot of shine

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<v Speaker 4>with the money going.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. Uh Blackjack gets travel on aside and money and

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<v Speaker 1>much he's up yell, they ain't even you know, uh, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that was sleeping on black Jack then you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>uh they they got up on a banks and ski

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<v Speaker 1>but they that they slept on black Jack, that that

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<v Speaker 1>nigga was hot. He's still hot. Yeah, I fuck with

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<v Speaker 1>I fuck with Blackjack a couple of times. I think good.

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<v Speaker 5>Producers just when you're a good producer and you know

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<v Speaker 5>who you're fucking with, then ship it's just automatic. You

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<v Speaker 5>don't have to sit up and be babysitting a nigga

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<v Speaker 5>or you know, you got to tell him motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>What what you what?

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<v Speaker 5>You sound good on? You bid me actually come from

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<v Speaker 5>the producer period.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I get a lot of niggas who hit me up.

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<v Speaker 5>You want to send me tracks and ship like that,

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<v Speaker 5>and they'll feed me thousands and thousands of tracks you

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<v Speaker 5>give me, but it is trying to tell him, motherfucker,

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<v Speaker 5>just go back and listen to my last project, go

0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:02.240
<v Speaker 5>to project for that, or go listen to some history

0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:06.560
<v Speaker 5>of me, and you probably get the feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>Of what type of shit I like to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I like to create too. It's really crazy when

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<v Speaker 1>you know the producers that hit you and be like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I got the hottest ship, I got the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect this and perfect that, and then it'd be some

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<v Speaker 1>totally shit that's out of your era or your of

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<v Speaker 1>what you used to So shout out to h You know,

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<v Speaker 1>real producers who take their time and know the artists

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<v Speaker 1>that they fuck with, and that when they really trying

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<v Speaker 1>to produce it, when they really trying to produce a beat,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. You know, motherfucker, study the artists and

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<v Speaker 1>the oh man shit I know with spice one, like listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, listen to this song or listen to this song. Shit,

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<v Speaker 1>he was busting on this and busting on that. So

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<v Speaker 1>usually producers come in knowing what your flavor.

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<v Speaker 6>Should well, like you said, though, eight, the real producers

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<v Speaker 6>they know, you know, some dudes.

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<v Speaker 1>Out there just turn their ship on and be like, nigga, here,

0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:11.800
<v Speaker 1>this is what I got. Niggas, and you be like

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<v Speaker 1>really like, yeah, I can't you know what it is?

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<v Speaker 1>Now out you would a because ah, you came up

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<v Speaker 1>before Spice, right, yeah, yeah, when did y'all niga, when

0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:34.840
<v Speaker 1>did your first meet Spice? Well, it was that I

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<v Speaker 1>met Spider.

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<v Speaker 5>I met Spice when I started doing Minis and Barry

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<v Speaker 5>and uh, what was my other nigga name? Yes, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 5>Jeff and Barry. They ran Jah. I got the soundtrack

0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 5>to Minister Society and I was a fan of Spice.

0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 5>So with them h being fans of M C, A

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:20.600
<v Speaker 5>C and W, you know, me being on the set

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:26.560
<v Speaker 5>and then then being able to hear minutes and all

0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:31.880
<v Speaker 5>that shit, and then knowing Spice was on the soundtrack, Uh,

0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:35.760
<v Speaker 5>they basically hollered at us to produce a song for

0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 5>Spice on his new record coming up. So we grew

0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:42.679
<v Speaker 5>up to Oakland and That's how me and Spice meant

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 5>and we've been cool ever since.

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Is that right? So y'all got the first song y'all

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 1>did with the Murder Show, right, Yeah, I'm telling you, man,

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 1>the nighties was grying his hell. Man, everything was about

0:24:57.040 --> 0:24:59.440
<v Speaker 1>kill him up, kill him up, shoot him up, bang bang.

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:02.919
<v Speaker 5>I think you I think the nineties was treacherous for

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:06.280
<v Speaker 5>us because we was young niggas coming up out the streets,

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:10.439
<v Speaker 5>man getting it was a lot going on and not

0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 5>too you low down play the situation, and you low

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 5>because everybody you gangster rap and y'all fucked up niggas

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:23.680
<v Speaker 5>heads and y'all had niggas out youngsters wanting to be whatever. Well,

0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 5>I grew up in that life, you feel me. Uh,

0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:31.159
<v Speaker 5>It wasn't no rap records for a nigga, You feel me,

0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 5>sh nigga. I was on the block cleaning trag. Now

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 5>know I thought about was how much money I'm gonna

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:41.160
<v Speaker 5>make off of servant you getting me? Like I tell

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:44.159
<v Speaker 5>people in a lot of interviews, Well, I tell people

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:45.440
<v Speaker 5>in a lot of interviews.

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:47.240
<v Speaker 1>When you come out of.

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 5>That adolescence and you're around the essence of fucking it's

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:56.960
<v Speaker 5>niggas down the street pimping. It's niggas down the streets

0:25:57.000 --> 0:26:01.160
<v Speaker 5>selling dope. It's niggas, damn it, Yo, dreams of being

0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 5>a fucking don't be a fireman. I'm gonna be a

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.639
<v Speaker 5>policeman when I grow up. I'm gonna be a nigga.

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:10.639
<v Speaker 5>Shit out the window, you give me. And so when

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:14.479
<v Speaker 5>Rap came, we sort up.

0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:17.119
<v Speaker 1>You get me. He was like, this is gonna be

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 1>my way out, but not really cause nigga still and

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 1>get me.

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:25.640
<v Speaker 5>We didn't look at it like at that time, as

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:28.199
<v Speaker 5>this is gonna be my way out, nigga said, talk

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 5>about nigga. We from Campton and we shoot them up,

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 5>bang bang, and there's rough niggas and we're fell dope

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 5>and the police is fucked up and whatever and so.

0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 5>And I think a lot of niggas was going through

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:41.560
<v Speaker 5>that situation around that time. So a lot of niggas

0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 5>from the West Coast, CMW, Spice, fucking Cube, fucking.

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:49.639
<v Speaker 1>Or whoever you was.

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 5>Man, if you came up out of southern California, northern California,

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 5>fuck it, you was probably talking about some streat shit.

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, ship, I mean if you wasn't, I mean, man,

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:06.879
<v Speaker 1>if if we we used to walk to school, uh

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know. And on the way to school, if you didn't,

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>if you didn't, we looked at you. If you didn't,

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:15.360
<v Speaker 1>if you didn't sell dope, or if you didn't know, uh,

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:19.159
<v Speaker 1>all of two short songs, you was a bitch ass naked,

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. On the way to school,

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 1>we walking, you know, seeing singing two short raps talking

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 1>about how how much dope we was gonna sell when

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 1>we got out of school, you know, and I don't

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 1>We're not We wasn't trying to glorify that ship. You know.

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>We was just that's just what it was at the time,

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, you you you know ship that it is.

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 1>It was joke, dope and drugs and guns all over

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>the motherfucking place. You couldn't help but run into that ship,

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 1>you know. And then and then to to talk about it.

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 3>Uh, it was entertaining to people. So you know, you

0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:58.640
<v Speaker 3>make the motherfucking words wrong.

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:01.400
<v Speaker 1>You a natural poet, You know that ship down, man,

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna you're gonna, you know, motherfucker's gonna feel you. So,

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 1>you know. But the thing was, you know, like songs

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:07.479
<v Speaker 1>like Welcome to the ghetto.

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:07.880
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:14.239
<v Speaker 1>It was it was, it was Uh. I had to

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>write something describing you know how we how how how

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 1>it was out there. And you know we ain't the

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>we ain't. We ain't the the motherfuckers that you think we.

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 1>We ain't just sitting out here trying to pop motherfuckers,

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 1>shoot motherfuckers, jack motherfuckers and.

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 4>All of that.

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:32.439
<v Speaker 1>Ship. We are here really trying to make money because

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:35.120
<v Speaker 1>you know that's that's you know, that was the American

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 1>gain back there. You know what I'm saying, the you know,

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 1>for for us as as as as as youngster's as

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>kids on the black, we're seeing that as you know

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 1>that you know, we're gonna we're gonna, uh, we're gonna

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 1>get paid like like uh like Phoenix, Mitchell and and

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>and uh Freeway, Rick mem and ship. You know what

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, We shouldn't get paid like that because you

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 1>know it wasn't no, you know, we wouldn't. We wouldn't

0:28:56.400 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 1>think about like a being no fireman or doctor see

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>that lawyer and nothing. You know what I'm saying, that

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 1>was so far fast from us. You know what I'm saying, like,

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 1>hell no, so I mean, you know, just getting money anyway,

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 1>we could ship and the and the and and it

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>was literally uh art imitating lights, you know, surreal for real.

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 3>No, it wasn't no fake ship U or niggas was

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 3>making up.

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 6>It.

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Spice. Let me ask you this man, you have you

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>always had a real unique flow. That was the first

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>thing that taught me about you. And I'm going to

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>you had a lot of patrois and views in your rhymes,

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, like the reggae ship man, and you had

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>a little stutter stup rhyme. Man. I'll let you develop that. Man.

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I listened to a lot of reggae when I when

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I when I was a youngster, and I've seen I

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 1>heard the styles that they was doing like they would

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, they would uh, they would stutter uh in

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 1>their own little way. And I was trying to ca

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>and do my own little thing, even the flows or whatever.

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, that's a dope flow. Maybe I could

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 1>put that to a to a rap beat and ship

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>and the just spit my own ship and it's like, uh,

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I was working on I don't know, And it's what

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do with if I'm a do it or not,

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 1>because it's like it's a opposite of what bad boys

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>the song bad Boys, Bad Boys, What you're gonna do,

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 1>What you're gonna do when they come for you? And

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 1>it's like, uh, what you're gonna do when't a bad

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 1>boy come for you? And listene what you're gonna do

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 1>when the bad boy coming for you? Croocket, Oh, it's

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>a what you're gonna do when the boy coming for you?

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>You know. So I'm stuttering the ship up in there

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, doing my little ship. But you know, I

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>always was into reggae music like that, you know what

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, And so, uh, yeah, you won't you gonna

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 1>hear reggae flow. I hit up I hit up Doc

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>a few days ago, d O c H Like, yeah,

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>you know I got that reggae flow listening to you

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 1>and kras One and Ship and all the other uh

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>reggae artists out there. So I just I just big

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>reggae ship. That's I listened to it a lot. You know,

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm like to smoke weeds hooded ship. So you might

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 1>come up, come up, walk up on me. I'm reggae out,

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Just blowing, just listening to

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Bib Marty or Ziggy Marty or some old ship you know.

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, hell and you're like angel Boy Bushie Bond,

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Tom Hill. Yeah, that was the homie ranking. Screw all

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 1>all of my guys. You know, my my reggae name

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>is is fire Thief. So you know when when you

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 1>see me, if you're the right stop because it said

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 1>fire thiefs, one of at least be a gang set

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 1>of fire thief you know, cause I steal all the

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>lighters and ship fighters all right, the fighting guys. Motherfucker, Hey,

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>is this the question more?

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 6>This?

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 1>This is a question more for you and a man.

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 1>You know. You guys kind of paved the way for

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>these cats to be able to do what they want

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>to do today, you know, and say what they want

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 1>to say. You guys were kind of like the freedom

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 1>the freedom of speech fighters back to day. Y'all had

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 1>see the Lowers Tucker out there talking to box y'all,

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>y'all had Reverend Calvin Butts roll them over, y'all CDs

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 1>and ship man did that ever fuck with y'all a

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>little bit? Like I kind of dog, I was digging it.

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I was like that looked like my ship out there,

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 1>they're rolling over there that was about.

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 5>It didn't really bother motherfucker. I guess because we grew

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 5>up with the with the We grew up with the

0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 5>thinking of all that all publicity is good publicity, So

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 5>you can't give no shit what I'm already looked at

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 5>as bad. So how bad can that be? You got

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 5>a senator talking about a Compton's most wanted record, or

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 5>you know, or Sony deciding to double sticker my album.

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 5>You give me the first album that was ever double

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 5>sticker because of the content.

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I just I just looked at.

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 5>It as all this shit that that goes on, and

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 5>it's always this free you know, did the the the

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 5>outcome of free speech what it's supposed to be. But

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 5>I guess in a whole I never was threatened by

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 5>this ship. Like, as long as a motherfucker gone keep

0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 5>being able to press up MCA records back then, ain't

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 5>gonna scare motherfucker. Like I said, Sony didn't do shit

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 5>with double sticker my next record. After all that controversy,

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 5>Fuck it, we're gonna say the views of this artist

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:14.879
<v Speaker 5>or his and his only you think they was gonna

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 5>pull them out, We come strap record or whatever and

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:19.440
<v Speaker 5>be like, nah, we can't put this shit out.

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Hell fucking up y'all records, didn't it? I mean in

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 1>a way, And.

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 5>Like I said, it was a lot of it was

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:30.880
<v Speaker 5>a lot of political. Uh, it was a lot of

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:35.320
<v Speaker 5>political shit attached to that campaign of let's go after

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 5>let's go after those guys calling women pitches and let's

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 5>go after those guys calling women wars and talking about

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 5>fuck the police said.

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're gonna, we're gonna build.

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:52.800
<v Speaker 5>Our political American platform off of going after those guys.

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 5>But you see that ship every year, don't you, America.

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 5>I mean times motherfucker to use the motherfucker to build

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 5>their political place.

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>You give me. So, at the time, we was, we

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:05.359
<v Speaker 1>was just the face of it. You give me.

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm surprised they ain't going after the the the hotty

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 5>dotty girls and you know, the half nicked women in

0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:14.839
<v Speaker 5>you know, the day to day.

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>But you know everything is clear now, you feel me?

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 5>So you should have that freedom of speech and the

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.719
<v Speaker 5>ladies do what they want to do and we as

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:26.879
<v Speaker 5>men do what we want to do. As far as

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 5>this music shit is concerned, because basically it's motherfucker's making

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:35.839
<v Speaker 5>music and just expressing whatever the fucks and if you're

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 5>gonna be dumb as fuck to go out and do

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 5>or you know, try to live, motherfucker. Go slap on

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:45.239
<v Speaker 5>the cake, nigga, jump off the roof, nigga, be superman.

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Then you know, it was basically the the therapy for me.

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Like you I'd use my

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:59.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, aggression I might get, you know, you know

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>back in the day, I might have got pissed off,

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, wanted to do this and do that, you know,

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>and you kind of you do you throw it into

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 1>your music. You know what I'm saying. It's therapy for

0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 1>it for a thug nigga. You know what I'm saying.

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Like I always needed my music. You know what I'm saying, Like,

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, when I got mad or got pissed off

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:20.840
<v Speaker 1>or something, then it gave me more energy in the booth.

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Or I would use that ship, you know what I'm saying.

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:26.839
<v Speaker 1>So a lot of the songs that you guys hear

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 1>on my records, you know, yeah, I was really feeling

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:33.279
<v Speaker 1>that way. You know what I'm saying. I wasn't. It

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:35.279
<v Speaker 1>wasn't just you know, all gotta come up. It was

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:38.759
<v Speaker 1>I was really feeling that way about ship that went

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 1>down on the streets or or or certain or anything

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 1>that was going on. You know, I was, I was

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:46.759
<v Speaker 1>really pissed off. You know what I'm saying, so and

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I used it so I mean shit with uh. I'm

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:52.880
<v Speaker 1>saying all of that to say, hell, yeah, you know

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>you gotta stay niggas, stay on and ship and keep

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 1>shit real. That's how your your music lased, you know

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying over there. You know, we saw ain't

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 1>getting the acting back in the day, and he got

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:08.480
<v Speaker 1>some stuff coming out. Now we actually we actually started

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 1>to shoot movies twenty twenty four, the first quarter twenty

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:14.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty four, we actually go start shooting some movies. Have

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 1>you ever thought about getting the acting and doing some shit?

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely, you know, especially if you know.

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:26.279
<v Speaker 1>If the road, if the road fitting my character and shit,

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, I would say I wouldn't even be after

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 1>act have to act.

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 3>I was just you know, just say with saying what

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 3>I would naturally say.

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:37.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, as you know the question as y'all, no, no,

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 1>because I think all four of us on here don't

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>have We've mentioned something online and you look up and

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:44.240
<v Speaker 1>see another motherfucker doing this. So I'm learning my lesson

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:47.719
<v Speaker 1>with that. But me and they got some concepts that

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.399
<v Speaker 1>we're working on, man, and we shoot movies next year,

0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 1>and we really want to get you on. Bog On

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the Sword is involved with it too, and we gonna

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 1>do some real fly, amazing shit.

0:37:57.280 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 5>Dog.

0:37:57.640 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty much go kill the game. But I'm not

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:01.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna make not were talking about that off the air,

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 1>because you know, you got the haters out there righting

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 1>out listening, man, and and a chance to be stealing.

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Got so much money, they could take your ideal that

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 1>you planning to do and go execute that motherfucking thing

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:13.120
<v Speaker 1>this week. And you gonna look up you like thinking

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 1>might have the same idea. How did you find it

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 1>out like that?

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Really? That's really speak you know how they say, you

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 1>know it can it's heads out, it's rich. It's haters

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>out there with money too. I'll the haters they bro

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 1>this motherfucker's out there with money that's hang on you

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 1>and you gotta left than they do. Yeah, And that's

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:31.720
<v Speaker 1>why I'll rack with it, you know what I'm saying.

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:33.880
<v Speaker 1>That's the cold thing about it. I want to include you

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:36.440
<v Speaker 1>on it. I want to include you at all. They

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 1>want to clude you in. Uh, they go do their

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 1>own white verds and some ship you don't thought off,

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 1>and you'd be like, damn, man, the motherfuckers don't stole

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 1>my ship. And they don't even make no sense to

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 1>even talk about it because everybody else will look at

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 1>you like, oh man, you ain't think of that. Yeah, exactly.

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I even racket that I used to walk around before

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I dropped one eighty seven prove. I used to walk

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:00.319
<v Speaker 1>around and I be spitting into the hollies and ship

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 1>all the time, and some of my clothes homies was like, man,

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 1>don't don't don't say that ship no more, Like don't

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 1>wrap that song no more, don't wrap that ship to nobody.

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:14.800
<v Speaker 1>And there was not your motherfucker out there doing it exactly.

0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Motherfucker would have took that whole concept concept and rock

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:19.839
<v Speaker 1>with it. You know, it got into the radio before

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I did.

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:23.359
<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying, rap, don't trip off my ship.

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 5>That's just my my smoke machine right now. That's you know,

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:29.360
<v Speaker 5>they got that good camera effect. You like that and

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 5>steal It's all good.

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I think.

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 5>Anything you like the camera tricks out. They getting up

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:43.840
<v Speaker 5>with because smoked up, it started flazing up. All the

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 5>bigger covered in my bigger was sitting back like, what

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 5>the fuck going dog?

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:50.759
<v Speaker 1>Right there? Yeah, ain't got a farg machine over Yeah,

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 1>it's cracking right now. Got a farging machine. I got

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 1>a far machine right here. You will take it out.

0:39:57.000 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 1>So it's broke. It's broke, fall with dope. Damn. You

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:06.399
<v Speaker 1>got a real for machine over there? Space What that's

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 1>like right there? See? He said, that's my active You

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 1>know I can get it in if I need ain't,

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 1>So you know what's thinking of act that? Man? Now,

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I hate to come out and ask questions that motherfuckers

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:21.399
<v Speaker 1>don't ask a million times already. Man, what was going

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 1>on in the movie set? Man? Was you out there

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 1>beating niggas up to Spice? Nah? You know? I actually

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 1>was just I didn't even see it, you know what

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I was just I just literally told you

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 1>know when I when I've seen all and I said, man,

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 1>go up, go, no nigga go, And I've seen niggas

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:43.440
<v Speaker 1>trying to chase him up the hill. And I went

0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 1>down and I looked, I ain't the fuck y'all doing

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 1>like cut that ship you know what I'm saying. But

0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, by then the damage was already done, you

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. So so that that one you

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:54.240
<v Speaker 1>really gift because she was there too, Hay.

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:57.840
<v Speaker 5>Right, I wasn't there. I wasn't shooting that day. I

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 5>was on the set every day, but that day I wasn't.

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't think I had a show while I was

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:06.399
<v Speaker 5>out of town, so I wasn't on set that day.

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 5>I remember going down back then. Boy, I shouldn't have.

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't when you know, I don't know,

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 1>ay if I ever told you this, but when I

0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, came and got me from the airport that

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 1>day and I was, I was, I was. I was

0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>drinking Jackie Coke all the way there and from so

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.759
<v Speaker 1>by the time I landed, you know, back picked me

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:30.320
<v Speaker 1>up and he showed me, you know what what the

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 1>newspaper and ship you know what I'm saying, and he's

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 1>and it said a newspaper.

0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:37.640
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Tupai comes to the set of Minister Society drunk and

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 1>high came into his lines, so that Hughes brother's firing, right,

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 1>And he was like, man, they didn't even call me

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and say nothing, And I'm like, you know, I'm like,

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:50.640
<v Speaker 1>damn for real, you know, but I was. I was twisted, man,

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:53.879
<v Speaker 1>and you know, he was like, he was like, I'm

0:41:53.880 --> 0:42:01.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna beat thing, motherfucking ass right, and so shule you

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm gonna start saying. I said, nigga, you

0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna do nothing, nigga. Yeah. As to get it,

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 1>the ship, I didn't even know they was gonna even

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 1>be up be up there. I had no idea that

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 1>was gonna be there. And I kept, you know, talking ship,

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 1>you ain't gonna do that, nigga, you ain't gonna do

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:22.960
<v Speaker 1>it that. I kept saying that. You know what I'm saying.

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 1>He was like I wanna beat that. I won't beat that.

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:27.239
<v Speaker 1>And you know, but I didn't know that they was

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna be up there and ship. You know what I'm saying.

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 3>Uh, That's why when I sing him, I'm like, man,

0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:33.759
<v Speaker 3>cut that ship.

0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Like, this is this the mother,

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:37.879
<v Speaker 1>this is making videos she founding this up here acting

0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>crying and ship. You know, but shout out to the

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Hughes brothers. None. I love the niggas, you know what

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. At least they tried to put in some ship.

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:50.720
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Who's gonna be your rooms?

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Who was your wrong? Gonna be Spice? I was gonna

0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:57.759
<v Speaker 1>be old Dog. That's right. Showed me the last one

0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:00.279
<v Speaker 1>about to be Sharik. I had the script, you know

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:02.320
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. But my manager at the time was

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:05.239
<v Speaker 1>he just wasn't really helling his fucking didness. So I

0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:06.839
<v Speaker 1>had to fire that nigga, you know what I'm saying.

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 1>He had to get the fuck up out of there.

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 1>I was hot over this ship. I even after I

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:15.800
<v Speaker 1>realized that the ship wasn't happening. I uh, I drunk

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 1>like a whole thing. Uh, Carlos ROSSI it had to end.

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 1>That ended up in the hospital with ship. I was

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:27.080
<v Speaker 1>mad at it for real, man. You know what, man,

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of a lot of people, Man,

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.280
<v Speaker 1>A lot of the homies suffered from having bad management

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 1>back then, because I think about like even eight, for example,

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:39.480
<v Speaker 1>the role he played in Minutes eight was supposed to

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:41.400
<v Speaker 1>go on to me and have the same kind of

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:44.600
<v Speaker 1>movie career. Almost a cube when you say so sorry

0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:47.920
<v Speaker 1>when an extrapt yeah, I mean I was.

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:53.279
<v Speaker 4>I was in twelve War, so yeah, we gotta get

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 4>we got.

0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 1>That's what, like I said, it was fortunately lead you though.

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I think they'll do it though, you know what, I

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 1>think you still got a long.

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 5>Where it went to where he went for a reason,

0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:10.319
<v Speaker 5>and you know, you gotta take steps. Like I said,

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 5>I always tell the same analogy to my son. Uh,

0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:20.439
<v Speaker 5>some motherfuckers get there overnight. Some motherfuckers that take twenty

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:22.520
<v Speaker 5>years to get there and build it up, and you

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:25.720
<v Speaker 5>gotta take the long road. Don't mean you ain't gonna

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 5>get there. It's just for some of us, man, they

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 5>just take a longer walk. You feel me, I think

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:33.160
<v Speaker 5>it might be better to day those fights.

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Just like I said, Man, the stuff we about to

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:38.400
<v Speaker 1>do in twenty twenty four goa be crowned breaking. It

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 1>can't nobody doing but us, Brom. We gonna reap the

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:45.480
<v Speaker 1>financial benefits off the ship without somebody else going and

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 1>throwing us peanuts. Yeah. Yeah, you would think a motherfucker

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 1>would respect the motherfucker's talent. And you know what the

0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:57.959
<v Speaker 1>fucking he done been through and all this hard work

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 1>of writing and coming up with songs and stories and

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, trying to be able to hang with every

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 1>other motherfucking significant artists out there, and it's just some

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:13.239
<v Speaker 1>motherfuckers come along and go, Now, you all deserve nothing. Here,

0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:15.440
<v Speaker 1>a nigga take this ten dollars while I take this

0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 1>ten thousand. You feel me, it's just some niggas who

0:45:18.280 --> 0:45:20.840
<v Speaker 1>felt like that. And I say, those are the niggas

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:22.279
<v Speaker 1>like you.

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:26.279
<v Speaker 5>You wish that every motherfucker would be on the up

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 5>and up, like I tell you all the time. Still

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:33.120
<v Speaker 5>it just don't happen, you feel me, It just don't happen.

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 5>If a motherfucker feel they can fuck you, they're going

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:39.960
<v Speaker 5>to fuck you and they don't feel no remorse about it.

0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Ain't that crazy? So I think we all got them stories. Hey, Spice,

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 1>let me ask you this, ma'am. When you you was

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:51.759
<v Speaker 1>a with JIB at the time, man, did you ever

0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:55.120
<v Speaker 1>talked to biggy Wise about the financial disparities that was

0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:55.839
<v Speaker 1>going on up there?

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:01.239
<v Speaker 6>Man?

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 5>I did you even have a direct connection to Barry

0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 5>and Jeff or did you go everything through your manager?

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I did for a while, and then and then they didn't.

0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:15.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, they didn't talk to nobody but my manager.

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, at the end, you know, they wouldn't. I

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 1>couldn't get Berry on the phone or Jeff on the

0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:29.960
<v Speaker 1>phone at the end, and that that hurt my feelings

0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:33.000
<v Speaker 1>due that that that really you know, they brought me

0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:35.280
<v Speaker 1>up there and they used to throw me birthday parties,

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:37.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, you you you know, give me my my

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:40.720
<v Speaker 1>my gold, my plate in the gold plaques and pushed

0:46:40.760 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 1>my record and all of that, you know, and all

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:45.439
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden the water cut off, and I didn't

0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:46.160
<v Speaker 1>know why, you know.

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 3>And my manager was he started if it seemed like

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:55.759
<v Speaker 3>he was working for them, he wasn't working for me

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:56.239
<v Speaker 3>no more.

0:46:57.160 --> 0:46:57.320
<v Speaker 6>You know.

0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:00.919
<v Speaker 4>So fice, when you were going on Gold and having

0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:05.680
<v Speaker 4>all the success and and having these big records, big videos, soundtracks,

0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:09.880
<v Speaker 4>all this stuff, you literally only got your advances nobody

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:10.279
<v Speaker 4>ever ever.

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've just now started to see it of residuals,

0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:24.520
<v Speaker 1>uh because you know, I don't know what happened with job,

0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:28.440
<v Speaker 1>but if they still out there a lot. But you know,

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:31.840
<v Speaker 1>I still get my get my residuals, get my rugties.

0:47:33.000 --> 0:47:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Some of the I'm not getting some I'm working on.

0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:38.399
<v Speaker 1>But I still see it, you know what I'm saying.

0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 1>But thirty years later, you know, well, you know, Spikes,

0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:45.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you something, man, And you got to

0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:48.080
<v Speaker 1>look into this man and you maybe me, you and

0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:50.480
<v Speaker 1>so on. But they can have a conversation once we

0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:54.520
<v Speaker 1>get off the show. All of those albums have a

0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 1>reversion on them to where you may own a lot

0:47:56.680 --> 0:48:01.160
<v Speaker 1>of them albums right now. Yeah, right you may, only

0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:03.400
<v Speaker 1>you may some of this stuff is I know, bonus

0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 1>about to get their stuff back. They're about to get

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:08.000
<v Speaker 1>their albums back right now. And you should be in

0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the same position, man, because it's a lot of stuff

0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:12.239
<v Speaker 1>that It's a lot of stuff that people did that

0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 1>was crooked back then. Because you got to remember the

0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:17.200
<v Speaker 1>time when y'all signed y'all contracts. Man, it wasn't no

0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:20.080
<v Speaker 1>digital So I think they be selling digital albums and

0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:22.480
<v Speaker 1>streaming digital albums where they don't really have the right string.

0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Well it, yeah, it wasn't no such thing as the

0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:28.200
<v Speaker 1>end of that, yeah exactly. So we definitely got to

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:30.400
<v Speaker 1>have a conversation, man, And I know it's a lot

0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:32.319
<v Speaker 1>of people trying to say the advantage of that right now,

0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Like me and eight had a guy to hear this

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:37.359
<v Speaker 1>man talking about some of them where eight may want

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:39.160
<v Speaker 1>to go buy a car or he may want to

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:43.200
<v Speaker 1>go buy some rims. I said, what the fuck. So

0:48:43.400 --> 0:48:45.239
<v Speaker 1>so they pretty much wanted to buy the rights to

0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 1>this album for like, and I ain't even gonna talk

0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:48.839
<v Speaker 1>about the Sun, but it was embarrassed, and I said,

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:51.160
<v Speaker 1>why would he sell y'all that when that's what he

0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:54.960
<v Speaker 1>get a year off his routes? Exactly, that's great.

0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:59.400
<v Speaker 5>And the first it's in some people that feel like

0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 5>all this on our generation or desperate right union. They

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:06.680
<v Speaker 5>feel a lot of artists from our era are broke,

0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:11.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, because let's face it, we never did reap

0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:16.880
<v Speaker 5>the rewards from our work. Niggas was having gold and

0:49:17.000 --> 0:49:21.000
<v Speaker 5>platinum records and if that shit was today, you get me,

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:24.400
<v Speaker 5>you'd be reaping. You be reaping the rewards from your

0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:28.319
<v Speaker 5>gold and platinum and double platinum records. But shit, back then,

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:32.000
<v Speaker 5>you could have a motherfucking platinum record and you're still

0:49:32.080 --> 0:49:34.239
<v Speaker 5>living on the block, you know what I'm saying.

0:49:34.560 --> 0:49:38.399
<v Speaker 1>Uh, it just it just was, it just was shit

0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:39.759
<v Speaker 1>that was unheard of.

0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:43.279
<v Speaker 5>And for a motherfucker to take all this hard work

0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:45.719
<v Speaker 5>and like I said, again, trying to come up and

0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:49.600
<v Speaker 5>create but fucking shit, trying to create music that you know,

0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:52.879
<v Speaker 5>when you got competition, like niggas like Spice wanted ice

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:57.200
<v Speaker 5>Cube and Scarface and ll cool J and you get me.

0:49:57.560 --> 0:50:00.600
<v Speaker 1>You're trying to come up with decent material to looked up.

0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:05.120
<v Speaker 5>And Nigga a year later, Nigga, it's like, damn, my

0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:09.160
<v Speaker 5>record when platinum, but I ain't getting not a dollar

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:11.480
<v Speaker 5>like a nigga, ain't a nigga, ain't send me a

0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:12.400
<v Speaker 5>check for nothing.

0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 1>They didn't came knocking on my door talking about it's

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:18.440
<v Speaker 1>time to do another album. I'm like, what the you know?

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 1>But it's unfortunate that we went through that era. You know,

0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:24.279
<v Speaker 1>now it's streaming and.

0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:27.400
<v Speaker 5>Digital and niggas could push their own shit and you

0:50:27.480 --> 0:50:30.160
<v Speaker 5>ain't gotta go through a label and all that shit.

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:33.200
<v Speaker 5>Nigga could pocket all this money from fucking let me

0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:35.880
<v Speaker 5>drop my shit on a sound cloud or this, or

0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:38.840
<v Speaker 5>you get me, I'm gonna get all my bread and

0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:42.440
<v Speaker 5>don't be a popular little artist who you know, city

0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 5>getting behind them and fans and next thing you know, nigga,

0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 5>he got a million streams on whatever.

0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Niggas collected real money nowadays it was, but you're not

0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:56.439
<v Speaker 1>in masters or something, so you know, we just gotta

0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:58.840
<v Speaker 1>fight a little longer, man, you know, to get on.

0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Just say spikes let me ask you this broom. You

0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:09.040
<v Speaker 1>were a phenomenal artist. He is a phenomenal artist. Do

0:51:09.200 --> 0:51:12.320
<v Speaker 1>you ever feel like you get the respect from the industry?

0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I know you got the respect from the people, right,

0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:16.240
<v Speaker 1>but do you ever feel like you get the respect

0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:20.239
<v Speaker 1>from like the the povers that be, like the guysis

0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:22.720
<v Speaker 1>and the different people that's in position to do stuff.

0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like that you get the respect you

0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:32.200
<v Speaker 1>supposed to? Well, the you know certain artists, I mean

0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:38.320
<v Speaker 1>certain uh, certain certain fans out there. Are they just

0:51:38.400 --> 0:51:43.319
<v Speaker 1>a fan that just regular fans of hip hop? It's hard.

0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:46.840
<v Speaker 3>It's hard for me to to to to register it

0:51:46.960 --> 0:51:50.200
<v Speaker 3>when they start mentioning Bay Area artists and they don't

0:51:50.280 --> 0:51:52.879
<v Speaker 3>say spikes one that that that right there.

0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:53.359
<v Speaker 1>That hurt.

0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:55.080
<v Speaker 3>That hurt a little bit, you know what I'm saying,

0:51:56.760 --> 0:52:01.239
<v Speaker 3>knowing that you know one seventh fast nigga from the Bay,

0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:03.400
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, Like this is this is

0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:06.239
<v Speaker 3>this is me saying this ship in and in the in.

0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Uh in ninety two ninety three, you could tell that

0:52:10.320 --> 0:52:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the East Bay was his home. You know, there was

0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:15.920
<v Speaker 1>no other artists representing the Bay like that back then

0:52:16.040 --> 0:52:18.359
<v Speaker 1>except I think mac dre was. You know what I'm saying.

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:21.359
<v Speaker 1>Every artist was representing you know where they was from,

0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:23.440
<v Speaker 1>or I'm from the town from Oakland, I'm from I'm

0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:26.839
<v Speaker 1>from uh from, I'm from the Leo. Uh. I didn't say,

0:52:26.880 --> 0:52:30.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm from Hayward uh uh, but I did it.

0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I put it in my song. You know what I'm saying.

0:52:32.520 --> 0:52:35.359
<v Speaker 1>I represented my town or whatever. But I just really

0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 1>wanted to represent the Bay as a whole because I

0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:40.160
<v Speaker 1>felt like, you know, I was I was. I wasn't

0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:43.520
<v Speaker 1>just rapping to to uh to to one town. I

0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:45.399
<v Speaker 1>was rapping to the world. Really, you know what I'm

0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:48.200
<v Speaker 1>saying that I want to represent the Bay Area, and

0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:50.120
<v Speaker 1>it seemed like, you know, you know, when you don't

0:52:50.160 --> 0:52:52.000
<v Speaker 1>get your props for when you know I don't get

0:52:52.040 --> 0:52:54.239
<v Speaker 1>our props for that, you know, it kind of hurt

0:52:54.280 --> 0:52:57.160
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, you know what I'm saying. But I

0:52:57.320 --> 0:53:00.239
<v Speaker 1>know who I am, and I know uh uh the

0:53:00.360 --> 0:53:03.160
<v Speaker 1>people who respect me, and that's enough for me to

0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:06.399
<v Speaker 1>not even trip on that ship. You know what I'm saying.

0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:12.480
<v Speaker 1>As far as every time I feel that way, all

0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I do is I think you know, damn. The first

0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:18.000
<v Speaker 1>time I landed in New York City, run DMC was

0:53:18.040 --> 0:53:20.520
<v Speaker 1>sitting there waiting for me. It was waiting for me.

0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:23.520
<v Speaker 1>They was sitting there waiting to see Spice One get

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:26.160
<v Speaker 1>out the I still had these cats on my wall

0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:28.360
<v Speaker 1>in my room and they wait for me when I

0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:30.800
<v Speaker 1>land so and I talked to him and they Spice.

0:53:30.840 --> 0:53:32.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm like, what y'all doing here? Man? We

0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:34.000
<v Speaker 1>wait for you? What's up? You know?

0:53:34.320 --> 0:53:34.640
<v Speaker 6>Uh uh?

0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Like you know what's going on with your Spice?

0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:40.880
<v Speaker 1>And that was that. That that alone, that memory alone

0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:42.640
<v Speaker 1>is enough for me to say, you know, he sh

0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:44.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't give a fuck, you know what

0:53:44.200 --> 0:53:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I know who I am, and ship, I

0:53:46.400 --> 0:53:48.880
<v Speaker 1>know what I did, and and and and memories like

0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:52.560
<v Speaker 1>going to Japan and and seeing my Japanese fans and

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:54.960
<v Speaker 1>and and seeing them wait there at the airport for me,

0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:58.000
<v Speaker 1>and the in crowds, and and me thinking, you know,

0:53:58.080 --> 0:53:59.880
<v Speaker 1>a man, is they waiting for me? On there? For me?

0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Like for real?

0:54:00.719 --> 0:54:02.600
<v Speaker 3>You know, after all of these years, you know, they

0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:03.840
<v Speaker 3>at the airport waiting for me.

0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:05.960
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, they was. They was at the airport wait

0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:08.279
<v Speaker 1>for Spikes one, with all my CDs and my old

0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:10.920
<v Speaker 1>albums and showing me stuff, you know. And that and

0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:14.319
<v Speaker 1>that was way in Japan, so I know who I am.

0:54:14.640 --> 0:54:18.720
<v Speaker 1>So you know you're just you're just not going to spikes.

0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Well no, this this was even back in h I've

0:54:22.239 --> 0:54:24.960
<v Speaker 1>been there a few times, back in when I first

0:54:25.080 --> 0:54:26.759
<v Speaker 1>landed there. The first time I went there was like

0:54:26.880 --> 0:54:29.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe two thousand or twenty ten.

0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:29.520
<v Speaker 3>Or something like that.

0:54:31.400 --> 0:54:33.400
<v Speaker 1>And uh, and that's what it was, you know what

0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. And and when when you when stuff like that,

0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:42.360
<v Speaker 1>when you when you uh experience stuff like that, you know,

0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:46.360
<v Speaker 1>you say to yourself, shit, you know, well, just because

0:54:46.440 --> 0:54:49.399
<v Speaker 1>these motherfuckers don't know who I am. Ship the rest

0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:51.759
<v Speaker 1>of the world is up on they ship like shit.

0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Japan know who Spikes one is, and Germany know whose

0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Spikes one is and in Australia know who Spikes one is.

0:54:58.840 --> 0:55:01.400
<v Speaker 1>They come to the shows they represent. You know what

0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:01.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying.

0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:05.680
<v Speaker 3>It's a few cats hate act like they don't.

0:55:05.520 --> 0:55:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Know who I am, or don't give me my proper

0:55:08.360 --> 0:55:10.920
<v Speaker 1>respect or when it's respect to do. I don't give

0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:13.840
<v Speaker 1>a fuck because I know who I am around the world,

0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:23.160
<v Speaker 1>not just the world, really, I don't. I don't never

0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:23.719
<v Speaker 1>look for.

0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:28.840
<v Speaker 5>You give me because I know what I've done I

0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:33.240
<v Speaker 5>know what I do as far as being you know whatever,

0:55:33.680 --> 0:55:39.279
<v Speaker 5>m C eight or whatever, but beyond that, you know,

0:55:39.560 --> 0:55:42.480
<v Speaker 5>trying to just be a good motherfucker, a good nigga today.

0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:44.480
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, A grown ass man.

0:55:46.440 --> 0:55:51.400
<v Speaker 5>Do I look for respect or whatever from other motherfuckers,

0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:55.560
<v Speaker 5>you know, especially a lot of industry motherfuckers. I just

0:55:55.640 --> 0:56:00.160
<v Speaker 5>put it like, you know, you don't gotta like what

0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:04.200
<v Speaker 5>MC eight has done as far as musically or whatever

0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:08.480
<v Speaker 5>is your flavor, but you're gonna respect what MC eight

0:56:08.560 --> 0:56:11.240
<v Speaker 5>has done as far as the hip hop is concerned

0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:13.920
<v Speaker 5>and what music is concerned. So that's just the way

0:56:13.960 --> 0:56:18.120
<v Speaker 5>I feel about it. There's a lot of people gonna

0:56:18.120 --> 0:56:23.000
<v Speaker 5>acknowledge that now, and sometimes that's cool. You know, if

0:56:23.000 --> 0:56:27.760
<v Speaker 5>a nigga want to say, under their breakfast behind closed doors, uh, nigga,

0:56:27.920 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 5>you know, nigga was significant eight?

0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Had you know this?

0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:33.400
<v Speaker 5>Or you know I used to bang eight when I

0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:36.440
<v Speaker 5>was in hard times or nigga when we used to

0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:39.200
<v Speaker 5>do this and we was hood niggas and we used

0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:41.800
<v Speaker 5>to put that tape on and roll through looking for

0:56:41.960 --> 0:56:46.480
<v Speaker 5>whatever and not just on that type of tip. Just

0:56:46.960 --> 0:56:51.480
<v Speaker 5>being able to tell stories and be a significant of

0:56:51.920 --> 0:56:56.759
<v Speaker 5>uh uh pillar so to speak. You know, I'm just

0:56:56.880 --> 0:57:00.640
<v Speaker 5>one brick on the motherfucking the house of hip hop,

0:57:00.760 --> 0:57:04.520
<v Speaker 5>so to speak. You're getting me, but niggas need to

0:57:04.640 --> 0:57:07.600
<v Speaker 5>know I'm I'm I'm a solid brick in that motherfucker

0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:10.840
<v Speaker 5>and you can respect that. We ain't gotta like on music.

0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:15.000
<v Speaker 5>You feel me, but you know recognized that I respect them.

0:57:15.200 --> 0:57:17.959
<v Speaker 5>Respect the fact that a nigga is a significant brick

0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:20.320
<v Speaker 5>in that motherfucking house, in that foundation.

0:57:20.640 --> 0:57:23.320
<v Speaker 1>You know that's real. And you know what, I'm gonna

0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:25.640
<v Speaker 1>ask this question kind of for both of y'all, right,

0:57:26.160 --> 0:57:28.240
<v Speaker 1>And I always wanted to ask you all this, like right,

0:57:28.640 --> 0:57:30.760
<v Speaker 1>because you mentioned that you wanted the East coast, Spice,

0:57:30.800 --> 0:57:32.480
<v Speaker 1>and you know you had running and see, you know,

0:57:33.040 --> 0:57:35.560
<v Speaker 1>lessons wait for you at the airport just to shop

0:57:35.640 --> 0:57:39.040
<v Speaker 1>it up with you. We're fanning. Your music surprised you

0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the most. I'll let you go first, Spice, who fuck

0:57:42.040 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 1>with your music? That really surprised you. And it was

0:57:47.080 --> 0:57:50.640
<v Speaker 1>a few uh Jammie fox Man that that was that

0:57:50.800 --> 0:57:57.000
<v Speaker 1>was treat. I had wrapped my uh my homeboy humbered

0:57:57.240 --> 0:58:00.480
<v Speaker 1>with my album cover and we was riding to LA

0:58:01.480 --> 0:58:05.680
<v Speaker 1>and you know it was it was it was a

0:58:05.760 --> 0:58:09.240
<v Speaker 1>limbo pulled up behind us. Remember the remember the nico

0:58:09.360 --> 0:58:13.080
<v Speaker 1>A the hotel. Okay, we pulled up right in front

0:58:13.120 --> 0:58:17.480
<v Speaker 1>of that motherfucking man and limo pulled up behind us.

0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:19.720
<v Speaker 1>To the limo driver hop out and he like, you know,

0:58:21.160 --> 0:58:23.600
<v Speaker 1>his spikes one in this in this uh hu in

0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:25.440
<v Speaker 1>his in his in his hummery is he in? He?

0:58:25.600 --> 0:58:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Is he in there?

0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:28.920
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, you know, I'll said, who was that?

0:58:29.080 --> 0:58:30.760
<v Speaker 3>I said, ask him who in the limo? He said,

0:58:30.840 --> 0:58:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Jamie Fox is in the limo.

0:58:32.280 --> 0:58:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Ship. So I'm like, man, get the fuck out of

0:58:35.040 --> 0:58:37.600
<v Speaker 1>end up. Damn Jamie Fox and the limo and and

0:58:37.880 --> 0:58:40.080
<v Speaker 1>so so I hopped out the passenger side, off the

0:58:40.120 --> 0:58:43.680
<v Speaker 1>back passenger seat, you know, and sure enough Jamie hopped

0:58:43.720 --> 0:58:46.840
<v Speaker 1>out a suit on and all playing in the motherfucking

0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:50.040
<v Speaker 1>He spiked, I'm like, oh ship, you know, like what

0:58:50.200 --> 0:58:52.600
<v Speaker 1>the fuck? Like, okay, what's up? What's up? And we

0:58:52.720 --> 0:58:54.920
<v Speaker 1>took him a pitch and chopped it up for a minute,

0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:57.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, and you know, he told me to listen

0:58:57.880 --> 0:58:59.640
<v Speaker 1>to my music. He knew what it was and ship

0:58:59.840 --> 0:59:02.640
<v Speaker 1>and that was that that type of ship is just

0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:05.880
<v Speaker 1>enough for me to you know, any motherfucker who act

0:59:06.000 --> 0:59:08.160
<v Speaker 1>like they don't know who a nigga is. I don't

0:59:08.440 --> 0:59:10.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I ain't tripping nigga Jenniy Fox though who

0:59:10.520 --> 0:59:14.280
<v Speaker 1>I am? You know what I'm saying, Crazy Ship? Who else?

0:59:14.720 --> 0:59:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Who else fucked you up?

0:59:17.600 --> 0:59:21.960
<v Speaker 6>Uh? Uh?

0:59:22.440 --> 0:59:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Mike Epps? Uh you know? Uh?

0:59:29.040 --> 0:59:29.360
<v Speaker 4>He was?

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<v Speaker 1>I think, well it was on two occasions. He was

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<v Speaker 1>out here, uh in in Vegas, you know, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was with some of my guys from from North Richmond,

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<v Speaker 1>uh you know, and you know about the North Frischman took.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh definitely seemed like he beat up on Shipping though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah he was. He saw that, Mike, that's the only Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a real dude, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>He was richman niggas out here in in Vegas. And

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<v Speaker 1>they called me like like maybe four five in the morning, like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we got Mike Epps over here. He he

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<v Speaker 1>passed out and he told us he fu he fucked

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<v Speaker 1>with you, you know what I'm saying, And we told

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<v Speaker 1>me we knew you, and he don't believe it. He

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<v Speaker 1>wants you to us to hit you up, but he

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<v Speaker 1>passed out before you know, we can get a touch

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<v Speaker 1>with you. And I said, man, you know, come get

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so they came and copped me and Kane

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<v Speaker 1>swrew me up. Man, I go to the to the

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<v Speaker 1>uh to they had a hotel, uh and uh sure enough,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Mike Epps was in there. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. He was out, and so I woke him

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<v Speaker 1>up like uh like uh like methan man walk a

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<v Speaker 1>red man on on the on Uh how high? How high?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? I just turned on I turned on one

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<v Speaker 1>a cereproof and I had one lit up, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like pulling on the corner with him. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>woke up to me, you know, speaking one a cereroproof

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<v Speaker 1>with the blood Parado tore up here like like oh

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<v Speaker 1>shit me like spice bud, they got told him aout

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<v Speaker 1>th huh. You know you know that that's just that

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<v Speaker 1>was some of the coolest ship I could ever encounted,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, So shout out. I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>that man, real dudes, you know what I'm saying. That

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<v Speaker 1>sounded like a hell of a motherfucker dream right there.

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<v Speaker 1>He probably woke up like what the fuck is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you made your story? You're sleeping? You wake up?

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<v Speaker 1>The spike's gotta blood me. I didn't give that proved

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<v Speaker 1>at the crack shot. Hey, who fucked you up under

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<v Speaker 1>Britney Spears.

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<v Speaker 5>Who fucked me up was the regular motherfucker who hit

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<v Speaker 5>my d M today and told me he was banging

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<v Speaker 5>on my new record.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what fucks me up. That's what I appreciate. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's definitely something you can appreciate.

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate a regular ass motherfucker who can steal, a

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<v Speaker 5>regular motherfucker who's in my age bracket, who can steal, turn.

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<v Speaker 1>On some new ship and go, man, I was just

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<v Speaker 1>banging this ship earlier. Or niggas who reminisce about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>past songs. You know, I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 5>You get me and then you know, you can get

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<v Speaker 5>on shit like Instagram now and see Lebron James in

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<v Speaker 5>the back of his you know way on the way

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<v Speaker 5>to the game bumping some straight up minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I mean eating all the words and ship.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you you Cleveland niggas, man, You know y'all

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<v Speaker 5>gotta get the words down, man. But I appreciate my

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<v Speaker 5>nigga because my nigga appreciates real uh.

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<v Speaker 1>My nigga appreciate some real motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 5>Hip hop you give me, and not to just be

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<v Speaker 5>not to just be on some commercialized shit, because you know,

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<v Speaker 5>when it comes to Lebron, they expect him to listen

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<v Speaker 5>to some drake or something, you know, some you know,

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<v Speaker 5>if you know those those people, you know, some Drake

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<v Speaker 5>or some twenty one or something. You know, they expect,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, Lebron to listen to them cats. But you know,

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<v Speaker 5>to see him uh in the back of his ride

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<v Speaker 5>on the way to the game and uh banging some

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<v Speaker 5>straight up minutes and when trying to mimic the words

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<v Speaker 5>man that that was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, well you know I got this today. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I try to tell Ada on his d young but

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<v Speaker 1>he has a responder. But let him know that his

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<v Speaker 1>last album listen To is a real dope, gid pop album.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually one of me and my girl favorite albums

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<v Speaker 1>this year. And this is dude named Brayland d some

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<v Speaker 1>shout out Brady, Yeah good, good shout out Gray. Look

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, average people, man, that's what that's what

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's that's what's cracking.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>That's cool as hell. And I think that's why and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why thirty years later, man, y'all still

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<v Speaker 1>doing shows, still got people, man that love what it

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<v Speaker 1>is that y'all do because it's all about the common man.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all made y'all, y'all were able to make a connection

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<v Speaker 1>with the common man. Nothing y'all. I see this Saturday, nigga,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we're gonna turn up you already talking on

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<v Speaker 1>aisle right, yeah, miss the Minister society too. Yeah, only

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<v Speaker 1>Tira gonna be out there. You know, timing is funny

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<v Speaker 1>because he always called me know time and talk. He said, hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>still they put.

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<v Speaker 5>They put one eighty seven on the bill too, so

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<v Speaker 5>you know it's all crying when they seven. I need

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<v Speaker 5>to hear cold up. I need to hear him out

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<v Speaker 5>to get what it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna be a gangster perny man soon it's all good man,

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<v Speaker 1>So shure you know what it is. This episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Man is gonna drop on Thanksgiving, Man, So we want

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<v Speaker 1>to wish everybody out there man a happy Thanksgiving. Man.

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<v Speaker 5>Won't your cook in eight ain't cooking? Ship, nigga eat

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<v Speaker 5>and I ain't cooking.

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<v Speaker 1>They gonna be over eating shiplins and smoking him a

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<v Speaker 1>blunt man.

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<v Speaker 5>Well do that ship. We do not mess with porky

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<v Speaker 5>pig man. I don't fuck with no chiplins either. I

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<v Speaker 5>used to like a motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I ain't. I ain't too hot on the child.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't looking for them. This year, I'll probably be

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<v Speaker 1>doing this. We're gonna find your say have a say

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving man, and we see y'all on the flip man.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it do. Well. That concludes another episode of

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<v Speaker 1>the Gainst the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download the

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