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This is not your average shows. 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 2: You're now tuned into the rail mc ain't, Big Change 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: and Big Steels the streets. 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: Hello, we welcome to the Gangst the Chronicles podcast, the 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: production of iHeart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: sure you download the iHeart app and subscribe to Against 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: the Chronicles. For my Apple users, hit the Purple Michael 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: on your front screen. Subscribed to Against the Chronicles, leave 18 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: a five star rating and comment. We'd like to welcome 19 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: every one to another episode The Gangster Chronicles Podcast. And 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: I got my dog in here shit, and you know 21 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: we got the legend theory journalistic straord. There s Baker, 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: what's up everybody? And you know we doing this Thanksgiving 23 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: style man, you know it's Thanksgiving. Man, I can't ask them, 24 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: the homies to come off with ours Thanksgiving? Is we 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: gonna be a own cooking turkeys or roots and all 26 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: that other good stuff? You know what I'm saying. So 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: were doing this the lives train tonight. 28 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 4: Man. 29 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: We got Alex in the motherfucking house man, dude that 30 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: had two albums in the top fifty Gangster Round albums 31 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: of all time, Spikes One What's That? And the Dog 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: What is It? Madden? It was faddening my guy. Oh man, 33 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: you know what, man, everybody been asking us to have 34 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: you back. They was like, man, why you didn't ask 35 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: them about this? Why you didn't ask me about that 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: last time? So we said we would have to have 37 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: another one where we go a little bit more in 38 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: debt with you, man, as far as all the legendary 39 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: stuff you don't done, man, a man, I appreciate it, 40 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: you know I'm saying. You know it's you know, it's 41 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: been what thirty years, so you know that's that's thirty 42 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 1: years of his the historic gainst the rap shit. You 43 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Oh for sure, yes, indeed, yes indeed, 44 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: And you happen to get put in the game by 45 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: one of the pioneers in the game Man as far 46 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: as Street Rep Go and the penthology Man too Short 47 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: of Himself? Man, ar did you wake up with Too Short? Man? 48 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, sure you used to come come 49 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: pick me up from school back in. 50 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: The day because I was like sixteen. You got an 51 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: album called The Dangers Crew. You know. Uh, it was 52 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: crazy because I took the album back to the school. 53 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: You know, I was walking back to school with the album. 54 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: Shit that showed everybody. 55 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: You know, you know I got an album Too Short, 56 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, you know, even back then, you know, 57 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: just letting motherfuckers know. Whileman, even in high school, you 58 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, what I was kind of knew 59 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: what I was dead it for, you know, knew what 60 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: my uh my final destination would beat it. You know, 61 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: took up with my guy him. He ain't to do 62 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: some gates and rap ship. You know the own up 63 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: right quick? 64 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 5: Spice what you got hanging by you some pantyholes or 65 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 5: purse or something hanging by you. 66 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: Don't want, dog, I'm in I'm in Japan, man, you know, 67 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking. I'm looking at that. I'm looking. Let's see Steel, 68 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: What the hell is that by your head? While didn't 69 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: get it's a Jeff and left. I'm not even talking 70 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm my bad spice. I'm not even talking about you. 71 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Steel lad. What then yeah, what the 72 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: hell is that still in the corner? Then? Yeah, what's 73 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: that one? Nigga? That's a bad dog. Stay, that's the 74 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: Beatus bag dog. They look at three undred dollars bag 75 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: thinking that motherfucker looked like an old fucking thing your 76 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: grandma used to have hanging on the bathroom door when 77 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: she used to have to, you know, clean that clean 78 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: that twad out. That's what that looked like. That nigga 79 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: said it was some petties, pattyeholes or something hanging on. 80 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the interview, don't go. So 81 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: if you linked them were too short, right? 82 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 4: And and then yeah, wow. 83 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: So you linked up with short man. And what happened 84 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: after that? When did you like like like whatever, you know, 85 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: he you know, he picked me up with uh, you know, 86 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: like you know, one of the biggest de boys in 87 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: the tail at that time and in the bay you know, uh, 88 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: well when in the tail, you know, and you know 89 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: I didn't even really know who the cat was in 90 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: the back seat. 91 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 3: You know, he was just one of the biggest bosses 92 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,119 Speaker 3: in the town at that time. 93 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He was he was. He 94 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: was really really relevant. You know, we in the in 95 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: the Bay, we in the in the in the Bay, 96 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: we call a nigga a factor. It's you know, it's 97 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: it's it's you know, if he's sticking out, if he's 98 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: standing out, we call him a factor. So, you know, 99 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: dude was a factor in the town. When I say 100 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: to town, I mean open you know what I'm saying. 101 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: So dude was a factor in the town. But I 102 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: didn't know. You know what I'm saying. I'm a youngster. 103 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: You know, I hop in the car. You know, he 104 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: started talking to shit, don't hang with ass nigga. I'm like, oh, nigga, 105 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: you know because he was he was. He was a 106 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: chubby nigga. 107 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, nigga, you you're a professional. 108 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: Birthday cake even ask nigga, you don't be the first 109 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: nigga to kept the cake and everybody else birthday party. 110 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: I just got on him, you know what I'm saying. 111 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: Who I got So, I mean, you know, but uh. 112 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: You know, we turned out to be real good friends. 113 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: You know. So I'm and we go up to the 114 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: studio and record, and you know, every time the uh 115 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: police rode by looking for somebody else. You know, he 116 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: had started looking around thigging it ain't chasing you, nigga. 117 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: You know I didn't know, but they I mean, you know, 118 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: his ands brother. Yeah, we we was around. You know, 119 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: I was around a lot of a lot of ship 120 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: back then in the town. But you know, Pops was 121 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: a real serious dude. I remember he he caught us 122 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: short up to the house one day and he was like, 123 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, he told me, he was like, man, I 124 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: need the hollow red too short. 125 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: I need the hollow Red hallboys shortened and his manager and. 126 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, damn, you know what do you 127 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: what do you want to how he gonna fuck everything up? 128 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: You know? So, but Pops, I guess, you know, he 129 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: was just you know, he just told you know, shorten 130 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: them to you know, make sure take care and take 131 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: care of his his son and make sure he's straightened 132 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: or whatever, you knowuse he came back and told me 133 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: what he told him. He said, I you know, I 134 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: told him, you know, make sure that you're straightened, you 135 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: take care of you, make sure you ain't up in 136 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: the bullshit and all of that. 137 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 3: And I'm thinking back of my head, Pops, I'm already 138 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 3: in the bullshit. 139 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: Him so short, So the short John well no after 140 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: uh what this was like eighty I was I was 141 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: like sixteen back then. This was like eighty six when 142 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: I was a rocket was short from the from the 143 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: beginning after you know, sixteen, maybe uh for the four 144 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: to six years later, four years later, I'm I'm eighteen 145 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: twenty and uh I read I put out one eighty 146 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: seventh proofs. Uh. He was in all of the record 147 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: stores and uh it was independent so that uh r record. Yeah, 148 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: he was on Triad Records and and uh with Georgia Willis. 149 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: And that's when you know, that's what Barry called. Uh 150 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: uh this guy named Pizzo, Uh Piso to beat fixer. 151 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: You know we I'm talking about a ot Pizzo. You know, 152 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: the east of DJ was short en forty. You know 153 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I guess, uh, you know, I 154 00:07:53,760 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: was at Piso House in uh uh Jive records. Uh. 155 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: One of the representatives called and it was very wise. 156 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,679 Speaker 1: He was Mordary. He was running. You know, he's running. 157 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: He can call it t that's the biggest dollars charge. 158 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: And he called and he like, you know, where's where's 159 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: Spikes one at? He asking, uh, Piso, where I'm at? 160 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there, like, tell on right here, tell 161 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: on right here, Piso, like you know, hold on, you know, 162 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: let you there's some serious ship man. Lets you lawyers 163 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: talk to this nigga man. You know what I'm saying, so, 164 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: you know, and then eventually I connected with with Barry 165 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: and and got them in touch with my lawyers and 166 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: everything and and my people and management and stuff, and uh, 167 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: you know, from then on, you know, that's when we 168 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: we we dropped h the whole album. We took the 169 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: songs from the first EP and added some more another 170 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: eight or nine songs, and and released the first Spikes 171 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: One album on John for the show. You know what 172 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: everybody's saying about give records from eugenk on you. But 173 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: then say Job don't like bringing motherfuckers. And they had 174 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: the same experience with the people he he was fucking 175 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: with over there. Joe's job ass records man Jugy J 176 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: said they never saw a royalty from that motherfucker you 177 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: angle man or that was that was shit. 178 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 5: Nobody I can speak on that. That's because you was 179 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 5: getting budget. We was getting budgets of anywhere between two 180 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 5: fifty and three hundred grand, okay, And they looked at 181 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 5: it like a lot of you niggas is doing your 182 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 5: own shit. 183 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: You get me. 184 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 5: So, because that's where it blamed with me. I didn't 185 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 5: see a royal t check because they spending more than 186 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 5: you making back. They're gonna recoup what ninety percent of what. 187 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: They give you. 188 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 5: Right we're making what you lucky to make seventy cents 189 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 5: of record, okay, So you ain't gonna see a royalty 190 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 5: check because we gave you three hundred and fifty up front. 191 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: Right then you got what three videos? 192 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 5: We spend about eighty five to one hundred grand on videos. 193 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 5: So when you think they're like, yeah, man, I have 194 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 5: sold a platinum record, nigga, I'll fit see some bread, 195 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 5: they gonna know that motherfucking million and something that you 196 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 5: owe is coming out of your seventy six. It don't 197 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 5: come out of the motherfucking Yeah, you sold a million records, 198 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 5: so about seven to ten million came in, But no, 199 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 5: you still owe us a million point whatever out of 200 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 5: your seventy six out of your you owe us one 201 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 5: hundred and you owe us a million and something. So 202 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 5: that's why a lot of niggas try to be smart 203 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 5: and take that budget and pocket that budget. You get 204 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 5: me that advance, so to speak. So if you're a 205 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 5: nigga controlling your own destiny, you get me and you 206 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 5: walking in there and you like, yeah, I'm eight Hype 207 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 5: Productions nigga. I'm finna produce MC eight's new record, and 208 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 5: blah blah blah. They finish cut me a check for 209 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 5: three hundred grand, and then I'm finna go back to 210 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 5: the house and I'm finna record that motherfucking my motherfucking 211 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 5: BATHROOMK or my bedrounk. 212 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: You get me and I'm finna cut and then. 213 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 5: I'm feel Then I'm fin the motherfucking double back, and 214 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 5: I'm finna produce the motherfucking myself, me and DJ Slip. 215 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: So I'm finna break Slip or whatever. I'm finnla soon because. 216 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 5: I don't have a budget, Like right, my budget ain't 217 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 5: a fucking Doctor Dre or Snoop Dogg's budget. 218 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: I a fucking MC eight budget. With him. 219 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 5: You get me, I can't afford to give a nigga 220 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 5: thirty thousand a track how they was getting back in 221 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 5: the days. You get me, I can't. I can't afford 222 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 5: to give a nigga one hundred thousand in a track. 223 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 5: So I'm finn learn how to turn this fucking in 224 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 5: PC on and get with my nigga slip and we 225 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 5: find to produce this motherfucking record. 226 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: So there go. I keep that money you getting. 227 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 5: I keep the production because if you was a nigga 228 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 5: from our erain, you wasn't getting no royal teacher back. 229 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: It was just that it was royal. 230 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 5: But I don't even get no LEAs niggas eight off 231 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 5: of them advances and offer show money. 232 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: Period about it. The cold part about that is if 233 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: they spent two hundred thousand all releasing your album all together, 234 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: you know they gonna say, you know, we spent two 235 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: hundred thous releasing your album. We won't we need seventy 236 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: seventy cent out of need. We need to do our 237 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: money back out of your seventy cent record. When you 238 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: when you do the math, you know, because I look 239 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: at my album, I say, okay, you know ceds was 240 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: going for about you know, uh shit, then little twenty 241 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: dollars a a CD, you know, nineteen eighteen thousand a 242 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: CD or whatever motherfucker CDs times times that by nine 243 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: hundred thousand. That wasn't what we was getting off. You see. 244 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 5: That's that's come from the step that comes from the 245 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 5: motherfucking distributors. 246 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: You give me the distributors. 247 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 5: Know, the distributors were body shit from motherfuckers like Sony 248 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 5: and them for about nine ninety nine or ten dollars 249 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 5: and fifty two cents. That's what their motherfucking CD sold for. 250 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 5: Right now, once they get the motherfucking tower or some 251 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 5: tower gonna rank that motherfuck up to what steal fifteen 252 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 5: ninety nine, sixteen ninety nine. But I know as a 253 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 5: motherfucker basically the record labels sold, they product to the 254 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 5: one stops in the whatever you buy a motherfucker for 255 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 5: nine ninety nine or ten dollars in fifty two cents. 256 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: Actually yeh, because you gotta remember the record company they 257 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: getting anywhere when it first came out during the first 258 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: ninety days, they might give it up for seven dollars 259 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: and he were from six dollars to seven dollars. Yes, 260 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: they trying to do that chromo clomo. So if you 261 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: if you rushing by a certain amount within that first 262 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: thirty days, they'll let you get it for seven bucks. Yeah. 263 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: You gotta remember they was charging for shelf space back then. 264 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: So if you had like the inn cap like at 265 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: the Tower Records or a listening station or whatever, they 266 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: may give it to him for five dollars. Then you know, everybody, 267 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: everybody made money except the artists exactly. They were selling 268 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: merchandise too, you know, like we would do big tours 269 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: like you know, I did a tour with me r 270 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: Kelly uh Nia uh h town and uh too short 271 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: and and uh and scarfaks and uh. We was at 272 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: Graanlin State University. And you know I have I had 273 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: Roger Travels tour bus. He let me use a tour 274 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: bus of forty was forty was uh it was in 275 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: his own tour bus, you know, right behind us doing 276 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: his doing his own thing. He funded his own ship. 277 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: You know, he was a hustler, you know what I'm saying. 278 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: And I and I brought forty along with us and 279 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: and we we tour. We was tors doing shows. They 280 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: was getting money from the T shirt and because what 281 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: we I pull up. I pulled up to Grayland State University, 282 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: man and I seen, you know, my fans with with 283 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: Spice one hats, T shirts, uh jackets, the Saint Jackets 284 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: of War. They hair done like mine, you know, with 285 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: the with the braids and ship like that, you know, 286 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: and you know as far as the merchandise, and we 287 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: didn't see no money from that ship either. I don't 288 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: see no merch no money from the merchant stuff from 289 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: the big tours and shows. I didn't see a dying 290 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: from none of that ship. You know what I'm saying. 291 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: Everything I got now I had to hustle for. I 292 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: take more money now than I did when I was 293 00:15:55,440 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: signed to that madge la. And that's damn Shane, that's you. 294 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: You know. One of the things I wanted to ask you, Spickes. 295 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: You real respected in the game. You did a lot 296 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: of songs with a lot of people. Right. One of 297 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: the ones that people keep asking about is your Tupac collaborations. 298 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: Hout that you look up with him. I have to 299 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: ask you, Brody to kill well. When I met Packy, 300 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: he was already a fan and we had just he 301 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: had just did juicing and we was on a ceter 302 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: in my neighborhood video. He was already a fan of 303 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: I was already a fan of him just from saying 304 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: Johnson and just from he and around the town. You know, 305 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: his music with Digital Underground and all of that ship 306 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: because we was we used to we used to perform 307 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: uh late nights in Frisco at the play um uh 308 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: with me and Hammer used to be there Digital Underground. 309 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: I've come through, you know, spit some ship or whatever. 310 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: But I heard Abouttom around around that time. But he 311 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: just came up to the video. Was like Spice, you know, 312 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: was cracking uh and he's spending that. He was spending 313 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: the Uh. He knew the words to the fucking stutter a. 314 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: You know, he was kepting them in his frame with 315 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: then he was picky, you know what I'm saying. I 316 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: was like, oh that Shiit Niggan know the words and uh, 317 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, from then on we that was my nick 318 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then we just started 319 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 1: kicking it. We recorded a lot of songs, but you know, 320 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: most of the time we just driving around smoking weed, 321 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: getting high. You know how we used to do it. 322 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: Eight We just drive around. Niggas have forty ounces. You know, 323 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: it was it was the nineties. We have forties Hen 324 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: and THEE and we hollering at the females riding down 325 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: the black five six deep in the car, riding around. 326 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: We be riding around Lake Bearing or something. You know 327 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. When they where they just named the 328 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: street after him, Uh Tupac and uh MacArthur way over 329 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: there by the lake. So that's all I was doing. 330 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: Pack and we was like, uh, I think I was 331 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: like twenty and he was like light team. We couldn't 332 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: even buy alcohol. Yeah, it was even too young even 333 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: buy buy alcohol. Hey, this thuf is kind of for 334 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: both of y'all. Then I'm gonna like you get yours off. 335 00:17:54,200 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: So and the nineties was like here the what's era? Yeah, yeah, 336 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: the light of these was kind of you know, because 337 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: everybody was kind of getting getting used to the to 338 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: the game or you know, niggas was you know a 339 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: lot of street niggas was just getting used to having money, 340 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: so especially legal money through the rap gag. You know 341 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If they if they knew how to 342 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: hold their own and and and push their own weight 343 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: and you know, uh, you know, hustling a lot of 344 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: hustle the game because it was all about you know, 345 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: how good your music was and how you could hustle it. 346 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: You know, I learned a lot of my tactics, you know, 347 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: from from selling drugs back in the day. You know, 348 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: if you got the you got the best dope. You know. 349 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: I just gave out a few few uh uh few 350 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: few of my my uh CDs or tapes that I 351 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: had made, and I know they were it was hot, 352 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, I know it was hot, and you give 353 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: out a few of them. He could he come to 354 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: thiends he come to rap things, you know what I'm saying. 355 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: And you know it's just like Ice T did the 356 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: song Pusher. He was talking about, you know, I'm your pushing. 357 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: He was pushing uh dope ass music and dope uh 358 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: tape and sets and CDs back in the day. You know, 359 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: it switched up to you know because because you know, 360 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: you took that that hut happened free and you put 361 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: it into your to your to your music, you know 362 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So yeah, hell yeah, a lot of 363 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: motherfuckers was new to get money back then. You know, 364 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: that's about the go ahead of saying, I. 365 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 6: Was gonna say the music, Solda self, because you had 366 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 6: a lot of great uh not only stories on there, 367 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 6: but you had great production with A. 368 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 4: Banks, she had Blackjack, E. S. 369 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: C M T. And they all were on the first album. 370 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: So what did you see and. 371 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 6: What did each one of the production people you worked 372 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 6: would really bring to the splice on the album that 373 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 6: you thought was different and distinctive. 374 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: Well, Banks and C. M T and E. A. Ski 375 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: all three of them actually played instruments. You know. They 376 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: all actually knew how to play the keyboard and the guitar, 377 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: and they knew how to actually make music. 378 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. That was definitely a plus. 379 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: It brought out a lot, brought a lot out in 380 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: me when I heard real music, Uh, chords and strings 381 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: and ship you know, my my imagination and uh started 382 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: just going there, you know what I'm saying. So you know, uh, 383 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: it does matter when the when the beat, the beat 384 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: does bring out something in you as a as a 385 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: rap artist. 386 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 3: You know, I don't make music. 387 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: I can. I could have told them, I could have 388 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: told them what I wanted and they'd give me exactly 389 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: what I wanted. Even slip you know what I'm saying. 390 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: Remember Slip, Uh you know talking about he I tell 391 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: Slip you know what I wanted. You know, they played 392 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, he knew how to how to get down. 393 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: You know back in the day. Uh, artists was real artists, man, 394 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: you know. Uh, then they know how to play instruments. 395 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: So they brought that a lot of that, they brought 396 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: that to to to me, that was that was something 397 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: new to me when I when I first started dealing 398 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: with them. 399 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 4: And then Blackjack also doesn't get a lot of shine 400 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 4: with the money going. 401 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: Man. Uh Blackjack gets travel on aside and money and 402 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: much he's up yell, they ain't even you know, uh, hey, 403 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: that was sleeping on black Jack then you know, you know, 404 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: uh they they got up on a banks and ski 405 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: but they that they slept on black Jack, that that 406 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: nigga was hot. He's still hot. Yeah, I fuck with 407 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: I fuck with Blackjack a couple of times. I think good. 408 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 5: Producers just when you're a good producer and you know 409 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 5: who you're fucking with, then ship it's just automatic. You 410 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 5: don't have to sit up and be babysitting a nigga 411 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 5: or you know, you got to tell him motherfucker. 412 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 6: You know. 413 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: What what you what? 414 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 5: You sound good on? You bid me actually come from 415 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 5: the producer period. 416 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: You know. 417 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 5: I get a lot of niggas who hit me up. 418 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 5: You want to send me tracks and ship like that, 419 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 5: and they'll feed me thousands and thousands of tracks you 420 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 5: give me, but it is trying to tell him, motherfucker, 421 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 5: just go back and listen to my last project, go 422 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 5: to project for that, or go listen to some history 423 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 5: of me, and you probably get the feeling. 424 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: Of what type of shit I like to you know, 425 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: like I like to create too. It's really crazy when 426 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: you know the producers that hit you and be like, man, 427 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: you know I got the hottest ship, I got the 428 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: perfect this and perfect that, and then it'd be some 429 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: totally shit that's out of your era or your of 430 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: what you used to So shout out to h You know, 431 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: real producers who take their time and know the artists 432 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: that they fuck with, and that when they really trying 433 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: to produce it, when they really trying to produce a beat, 434 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: whatever it is. You know, motherfucker, study the artists and 435 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: the oh man shit I know with spice one, like listen, 436 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, listen to this song or listen to this song. Shit, 437 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 1: he was busting on this and busting on that. So 438 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: usually producers come in knowing what your flavor. 439 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 6: Should well, like you said, though, eight, the real producers 440 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 6: they know, you know, some dudes. 441 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: Out there just turn their ship on and be like, nigga, here, 442 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: this is what I got. Niggas, and you be like 443 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: really like, yeah, I can't you know what it is? 444 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: Now out you would a because ah, you came up 445 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: before Spice, right, yeah, yeah, when did y'all niga, when 446 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: did your first meet Spice? Well, it was that I 447 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: met Spider. 448 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 5: I met Spice when I started doing Minis and Barry 449 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 5: and uh, what was my other nigga name? Yes, Jeff, 450 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 5: Jeff and Barry. They ran Jah. I got the soundtrack 451 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 5: to Minister Society and I was a fan of Spice. 452 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 5: So with them h being fans of M C, A 453 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 5: C and W, you know, me being on the set 454 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 5: and then then being able to hear minutes and all 455 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 5: that shit, and then knowing Spice was on the soundtrack, Uh, 456 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 5: they basically hollered at us to produce a song for 457 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 5: Spice on his new record coming up. So we grew 458 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 5: up to Oakland and That's how me and Spice meant 459 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 5: and we've been cool ever since. 460 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: Is that right? So y'all got the first song y'all 461 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: did with the Murder Show, right, Yeah, I'm telling you, man, 462 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: the nighties was grying his hell. Man, everything was about 463 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: kill him up, kill him up, shoot him up, bang bang. 464 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 5: I think you I think the nineties was treacherous for 465 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 5: us because we was young niggas coming up out the streets, 466 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 5: man getting it was a lot going on and not 467 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 5: too you low down play the situation, and you low 468 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 5: because everybody you gangster rap and y'all fucked up niggas 469 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 5: heads and y'all had niggas out youngsters wanting to be whatever. Well, 470 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 5: I grew up in that life, you feel me. Uh, 471 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 5: It wasn't no rap records for a nigga, You feel me, 472 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 5: sh nigga. I was on the block cleaning trag. Now 473 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 5: know I thought about was how much money I'm gonna 474 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 5: make off of servant you getting me? Like I tell 475 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 5: people in a lot of interviews, Well, I tell people 476 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 5: in a lot of interviews. 477 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: When you come out of. 478 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 5: That adolescence and you're around the essence of fucking it's 479 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 5: niggas down the street pimping. It's niggas down the streets 480 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 5: selling dope. It's niggas, damn it, Yo, dreams of being 481 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 5: a fucking don't be a fireman. I'm gonna be a 482 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 5: policeman when I grow up. I'm gonna be a nigga. 483 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 5: Shit out the window, you give me. And so when 484 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 5: Rap came, we sort up. 485 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: You get me. He was like, this is gonna be 486 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: my way out, but not really cause nigga still and 487 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: get me. 488 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 5: We didn't look at it like at that time, as 489 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 5: this is gonna be my way out, nigga said, talk 490 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 5: about nigga. We from Campton and we shoot them up, 491 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 5: bang bang, and there's rough niggas and we're fell dope 492 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 5: and the police is fucked up and whatever and so. 493 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 5: And I think a lot of niggas was going through 494 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 5: that situation around that time. So a lot of niggas 495 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 5: from the West Coast, CMW, Spice, fucking Cube, fucking. 496 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: Or whoever you was. 497 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 5: Man, if you came up out of southern California, northern California, 498 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 5: fuck it, you was probably talking about some streat shit. 499 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, ship, I mean if you wasn't, I mean, man, 500 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: if if we we used to walk to school, uh 501 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: don't know. And on the way to school, if you didn't, 502 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: if you didn't, we looked at you. If you didn't, 503 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: if you didn't sell dope, or if you didn't know, uh, 504 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: all of two short songs, you was a bitch ass naked, 505 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. On the way to school, 506 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: we walking, you know, seeing singing two short raps talking 507 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: about how how much dope we was gonna sell when 508 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: we got out of school, you know, and I don't 509 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: We're not We wasn't trying to glorify that ship. You know. 510 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: We was just that's just what it was at the time, 511 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, you you you know ship that it is. 512 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: It was joke, dope and drugs and guns all over 513 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: the motherfucking place. You couldn't help but run into that ship, 514 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: you know. And then and then to to talk about it. 515 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 3: Uh, it was entertaining to people. So you know, you 516 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 3: make the motherfucking words wrong. 517 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: You a natural poet, You know that ship down, man, 518 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna, you know, motherfucker's gonna feel you. So, 519 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: you know. But the thing was, you know, like songs 520 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,479 Speaker 1: like Welcome to the ghetto. 521 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 4: You know. 522 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,239 Speaker 1: It was it was, it was Uh. I had to 523 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: write something describing you know how we how how how 524 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: it was out there. And you know we ain't the 525 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: we ain't. We ain't the the motherfuckers that you think we. 526 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: We ain't just sitting out here trying to pop motherfuckers, 527 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: shoot motherfuckers, jack motherfuckers and. 528 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 4: All of that. 529 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: Ship. We are here really trying to make money because 530 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: you know that's that's you know, that was the American 531 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: gain back there. You know what I'm saying, the you know, 532 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: for for us as as as as as youngster's as 533 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: kids on the black, we're seeing that as you know 534 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: that you know, we're gonna we're gonna, uh, we're gonna 535 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: get paid like like uh like Phoenix, Mitchell and and 536 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: and uh Freeway, Rick mem and ship. You know what 537 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying, We shouldn't get paid like that because you 538 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: know it wasn't no, you know, we wouldn't. We wouldn't 539 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: think about like a being no fireman or doctor see 540 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: that lawyer and nothing. You know what I'm saying, that 541 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: was so far fast from us. You know what I'm saying, like, 542 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: hell no, so I mean, you know, just getting money anyway, 543 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: we could ship and the and the and and it 544 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: was literally uh art imitating lights, you know, surreal for real. 545 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 3: No, it wasn't no fake ship U or niggas was 546 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 3: making up. 547 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: You know. 548 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 6: It. 549 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: Spice. Let me ask you this man, you have you 550 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: always had a real unique flow. That was the first 551 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: thing that taught me about you. And I'm going to 552 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: you had a lot of patrois and views in your rhymes, 553 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: you know, like the reggae ship man, and you had 554 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: a little stutter stup rhyme. Man. I'll let you develop that. Man. 555 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: I listened to a lot of reggae when I when 556 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: I when I was a youngster, and I've seen I 557 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: heard the styles that they was doing like they would 558 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: you know, they would uh, they would stutter uh in 559 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: their own little way. And I was trying to ca 560 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: and do my own little thing, even the flows or whatever. 561 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's a dope flow. Maybe I could 562 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: put that to a to a rap beat and ship 563 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: and the just spit my own ship and it's like, uh, 564 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: I was working on I don't know, And it's what 565 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do with if I'm a do it or not, 566 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: because it's like it's a opposite of what bad boys 567 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: the song bad Boys, Bad Boys, What you're gonna do, 568 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: What you're gonna do when they come for you? And 569 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: it's like, uh, what you're gonna do when't a bad 570 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: boy come for you? And listene what you're gonna do 571 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: when the bad boy coming for you? Croocket, Oh, it's 572 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: a what you're gonna do when the boy coming for you? 573 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: You know. So I'm stuttering the ship up in there 574 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: or whatever, doing my little ship. But you know, I 575 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: always was into reggae music like that, you know what 576 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying, And so, uh, yeah, you won't you gonna 577 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: hear reggae flow. I hit up I hit up Doc 578 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: a few days ago, d O c H Like, yeah, 579 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: you know I got that reggae flow listening to you 580 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: and kras One and Ship and all the other uh 581 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: reggae artists out there. So I just I just big 582 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: reggae ship. That's I listened to it a lot. You know, 583 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm like to smoke weeds hooded ship. So you might 584 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: come up, come up, walk up on me. I'm reggae out, 585 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Just blowing, just listening to 586 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: Bib Marty or Ziggy Marty or some old ship you know. 587 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, hell and you're like angel Boy Bushie Bond, 588 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: Tom Hill. Yeah, that was the homie ranking. Screw all 589 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: all of my guys. You know, my my reggae name 590 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: is is fire Thief. So you know when when you 591 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: see me, if you're the right stop because it said 592 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: fire thiefs, one of at least be a gang set 593 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: of fire thief you know, cause I steal all the 594 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: lighters and ship fighters all right, the fighting guys. Motherfucker, Hey, 595 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: is this the question more? 596 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 6: This? 597 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: This is a question more for you and a man. 598 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: You know. You guys kind of paved the way for 599 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: these cats to be able to do what they want 600 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: to do today, you know, and say what they want 601 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: to say. You guys were kind of like the freedom 602 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: the freedom of speech fighters back to day. Y'all had 603 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: see the Lowers Tucker out there talking to box y'all, 604 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: y'all had Reverend Calvin Butts roll them over, y'all CDs 605 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: and ship man did that ever fuck with y'all a 606 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: little bit? Like I kind of dog, I was digging it. 607 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: I was like that looked like my ship out there, 608 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: they're rolling over there that was about. 609 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 5: It didn't really bother motherfucker. I guess because we grew 610 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 5: up with the with the We grew up with the 611 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 5: thinking of all that all publicity is good publicity, So 612 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 5: you can't give no shit what I'm already looked at 613 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 5: as bad. So how bad can that be? You got 614 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 5: a senator talking about a Compton's most wanted record, or 615 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 5: you know, or Sony deciding to double sticker my album. 616 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 5: You give me the first album that was ever double 617 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 5: sticker because of the content. 618 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: I just I just looked at. 619 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 5: It as all this shit that that goes on, and 620 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 5: it's always this free you know, did the the the 621 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 5: outcome of free speech what it's supposed to be. But 622 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 5: I guess in a whole I never was threatened by 623 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 5: this ship. Like, as long as a motherfucker gone keep 624 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 5: being able to press up MCA records back then, ain't 625 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 5: gonna scare motherfucker. Like I said, Sony didn't do shit 626 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 5: with double sticker my next record. After all that controversy, 627 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 5: Fuck it, we're gonna say the views of this artist 628 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 5: or his and his only you think they was gonna 629 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 5: pull them out, We come strap record or whatever and 630 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 5: be like, nah, we can't put this shit out. 631 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: Hell fucking up y'all records, didn't it? I mean in 632 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: a way, And. 633 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 5: Like I said, it was a lot of it was 634 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 5: a lot of political. Uh, it was a lot of 635 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 5: political shit attached to that campaign of let's go after 636 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 5: let's go after those guys calling women pitches and let's 637 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 5: go after those guys calling women wars and talking about 638 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 5: fuck the police said. 639 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna, we're gonna build. 640 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 5: Our political American platform off of going after those guys. 641 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 5: But you see that ship every year, don't you, America. 642 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 5: I mean times motherfucker to use the motherfucker to build 643 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 5: their political place. 644 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: You give me. So, at the time, we was, we 645 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: was just the face of it. You give me. 646 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 5: I'm surprised they ain't going after the the the hotty 647 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 5: dotty girls and you know, the half nicked women in 648 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 5: you know, the day to day. 649 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: But you know everything is clear now, you feel me? 650 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 5: So you should have that freedom of speech and the 651 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 5: ladies do what they want to do and we as 652 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 5: men do what we want to do. As far as 653 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 5: this music shit is concerned, because basically it's motherfucker's making 654 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 5: music and just expressing whatever the fucks and if you're 655 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 5: gonna be dumb as fuck to go out and do 656 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 5: or you know, try to live, motherfucker. Go slap on 657 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 5: the cake, nigga, jump off the roof, nigga, be superman. 658 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: Then you know, it was basically the the therapy for me. 659 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you I'd use my 660 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: you know, aggression I might get, you know, you know 661 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: back in the day, I might have got pissed off, 662 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: you know, wanted to do this and do that, you know, 663 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: and you kind of you do you throw it into 664 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: your music. You know what I'm saying. It's therapy for 665 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: it for a thug nigga. You know what I'm saying. 666 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: Like I always needed my music. You know what I'm saying, Like, 667 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: you know, when I got mad or got pissed off 668 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: or something, then it gave me more energy in the booth. 669 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: Or I would use that ship, you know what I'm saying. 670 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: So a lot of the songs that you guys hear 671 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: on my records, you know, yeah, I was really feeling 672 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: that way. You know what I'm saying. I wasn't. It 673 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: wasn't just you know, all gotta come up. It was 674 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: I was really feeling that way about ship that went 675 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: down on the streets or or or certain or anything 676 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: that was going on. You know, I was, I was 677 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: really pissed off. You know what I'm saying, so and 678 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: I used it so I mean shit with uh. I'm 679 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: saying all of that to say, hell, yeah, you know 680 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: you gotta stay niggas, stay on and ship and keep 681 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: shit real. That's how your your music lased, you know 682 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying over there. You know, we saw ain't 683 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: getting the acting back in the day, and he got 684 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: some stuff coming out. Now we actually we actually started 685 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: to shoot movies twenty twenty four, the first quarter twenty 686 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: twenty four, we actually go start shooting some movies. Have 687 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: you ever thought about getting the acting and doing some shit? 688 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, you know, especially if you know. 689 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: If the road, if the road fitting my character and shit, 690 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, I would say I wouldn't even be after 691 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: act have to act. 692 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 3: I was just you know, just say with saying what 693 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 3: I would naturally say. 694 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: Well, as you know the question as y'all, no, no, 695 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: because I think all four of us on here don't 696 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: have We've mentioned something online and you look up and 697 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 1: see another motherfucker doing this. So I'm learning my lesson 698 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: with that. But me and they got some concepts that 699 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 1: we're working on, man, and we shoot movies next year, 700 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: and we really want to get you on. Bog On 701 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: the Sword is involved with it too, and we gonna 702 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: do some real fly, amazing shit. 703 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 5: Dog. 704 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: That's pretty much go kill the game. But I'm not 705 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: gonna make not were talking about that off the air, 706 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: because you know, you got the haters out there righting 707 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: out listening, man, and and a chance to be stealing. 708 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: Got so much money, they could take your ideal that 709 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: you planning to do and go execute that motherfucking thing 710 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: this week. And you gonna look up you like thinking 711 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: might have the same idea. How did you find it 712 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: out like that? 713 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 2: Right? 714 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: Really? That's really speak you know how they say, you 715 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: know it can it's heads out, it's rich. It's haters 716 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: out there with money too. I'll the haters they bro 717 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: this motherfucker's out there with money that's hang on you 718 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: and you gotta left than they do. Yeah, And that's 719 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 1: why I'll rack with it, you know what I'm saying. 720 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: That's the cold thing about it. I want to include you 721 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: on it. I want to include you at all. They 722 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: want to clude you in. Uh, they go do their 723 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: own white verds and some ship you don't thought off, 724 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: and you'd be like, damn, man, the motherfuckers don't stole 725 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: my ship. And they don't even make no sense to 726 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: even talk about it because everybody else will look at 727 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: you like, oh man, you ain't think of that. Yeah, exactly. 728 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: I even racket that I used to walk around before 729 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: I dropped one eighty seven prove. I used to walk 730 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: around and I be spitting into the hollies and ship 731 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: all the time, and some of my clothes homies was like, man, 732 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: don't don't don't say that ship no more, Like don't 733 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: wrap that song no more, don't wrap that ship to nobody. 734 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 1: And there was not your motherfucker out there doing it exactly. 735 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: Motherfucker would have took that whole concept concept and rock 736 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: with it. You know, it got into the radio before 737 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: I did. 738 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, rap, don't trip off my ship. 739 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 5: That's just my my smoke machine right now. That's you know, 740 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 5: they got that good camera effect. You like that and 741 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 5: steal It's all good. 742 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: I think. 743 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 5: Anything you like the camera tricks out. They getting up 744 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 5: with because smoked up, it started flazing up. All the 745 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 5: bigger covered in my bigger was sitting back like, what 746 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 5: the fuck going dog? 747 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: Right there? Yeah, ain't got a farg machine over Yeah, 748 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: it's cracking right now. Got a farging machine. I got 749 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: a far machine right here. You will take it out. 750 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: So it's broke. It's broke, fall with dope. Damn. You 751 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 1: got a real for machine over there? Space What that's 752 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: like right there? See? He said, that's my active You 753 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: know I can get it in if I need ain't, 754 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: So you know what's thinking of act that? Man? Now, 755 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: I hate to come out and ask questions that motherfuckers 756 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,399 Speaker 1: don't ask a million times already. Man, what was going 757 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: on in the movie set? Man? Was you out there 758 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: beating niggas up to Spice? Nah? You know? I actually 759 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: was just I didn't even see it, you know what 760 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I was just I just literally told you 761 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: know when I when I've seen all and I said, man, 762 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: go up, go, no nigga go, And I've seen niggas 763 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: trying to chase him up the hill. And I went 764 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: down and I looked, I ain't the fuck y'all doing 765 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: like cut that ship you know what I'm saying. But 766 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: you know, by then the damage was already done, you 767 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So so that that one you 768 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 1: really gift because she was there too, Hay. 769 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 5: Right, I wasn't there. I wasn't shooting that day. I 770 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 5: was on the set every day, but that day I wasn't. 771 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 5: I wouldn't think I had a show while I was 772 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,399 Speaker 5: out of town, so I wasn't on set that day. 773 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 5: I remember going down back then. Boy, I shouldn't have. 774 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't when you know, I don't know, 775 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: ay if I ever told you this, but when I 776 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, came and got me from the airport that 777 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: day and I was, I was, I was. I was 778 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: drinking Jackie Coke all the way there and from so 779 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: by the time I landed, you know, back picked me 780 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 1: up and he showed me, you know what what the 781 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: newspaper and ship you know what I'm saying, and he's 782 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: and it said a newspaper. 783 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 5: You know. 784 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: Tupai comes to the set of Minister Society drunk and 785 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: high came into his lines, so that Hughes brother's firing, right, 786 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: And he was like, man, they didn't even call me 787 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: and say nothing, And I'm like, you know, I'm like, 788 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: damn for real, you know, but I was. I was twisted, man, 789 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 1: and you know, he was like, he was like, I'm 790 00:41:53,880 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: gonna beat thing, motherfucking ass right, and so shule you 791 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna start saying. I said, nigga, you 792 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: ain't gonna do nothing, nigga. Yeah. As to get it, 793 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: the ship, I didn't even know they was gonna even 794 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: be up be up there. I had no idea that 795 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: was gonna be there. And I kept, you know, talking ship, 796 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: you ain't gonna do that, nigga, you ain't gonna do 797 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: it that. I kept saying that. You know what I'm saying. 798 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 1: He was like I wanna beat that. I won't beat that. 799 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: And you know, but I didn't know that they was 800 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: gonna be up there and ship. You know what I'm saying. 801 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 3: Uh, That's why when I sing him, I'm like, man, 802 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 3: cut that ship. 803 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, this is this the mother, 804 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 1: this is making videos she founding this up here acting 805 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: crying and ship. You know, but shout out to the 806 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: Hughes brothers. None. I love the niggas, you know what 807 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying. At least they tried to put in some ship. 808 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,720 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Who's gonna be your rooms? 809 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: Who was your wrong? Gonna be Spice? I was gonna 810 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: be old Dog. That's right. Showed me the last one 811 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: about to be Sharik. I had the script, you know 812 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But my manager at the time was 813 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: he just wasn't really helling his fucking didness. So I 814 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: had to fire that nigga, you know what I'm saying. 815 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: He had to get the fuck up out of there. 816 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: I was hot over this ship. I even after I 817 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,800 Speaker 1: realized that the ship wasn't happening. I uh, I drunk 818 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: like a whole thing. Uh, Carlos ROSSI it had to end. 819 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: That ended up in the hospital with ship. I was 820 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: mad at it for real, man. You know what, man, 821 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: I think a lot of a lot of people, Man, 822 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,280 Speaker 1: A lot of the homies suffered from having bad management 823 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: back then, because I think about like even eight, for example, 824 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: the role he played in Minutes eight was supposed to 825 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: go on to me and have the same kind of 826 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: movie career. Almost a cube when you say so sorry 827 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 1: when an extrapt yeah, I mean I was. 828 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 4: I was in twelve War, so yeah, we gotta get 829 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 4: we got. 830 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: That's what, like I said, it was fortunately lead you though. 831 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: I think they'll do it though, you know what, I 832 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: think you still got a long. 833 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 5: Where it went to where he went for a reason, 834 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 5: and you know, you gotta take steps. Like I said, 835 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 5: I always tell the same analogy to my son. Uh, 836 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:20,439 Speaker 5: some motherfuckers get there overnight. Some motherfuckers that take twenty 837 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 5: years to get there and build it up, and you 838 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,720 Speaker 5: gotta take the long road. Don't mean you ain't gonna 839 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 5: get there. It's just for some of us, man, they 840 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 5: just take a longer walk. You feel me, I think 841 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 5: it might be better to day those fights. 842 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: Just like I said, Man, the stuff we about to 843 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 1: do in twenty twenty four goa be crowned breaking. It 844 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: can't nobody doing but us, Brom. We gonna reap the 845 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: financial benefits off the ship without somebody else going and 846 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: throwing us peanuts. Yeah. Yeah, you would think a motherfucker 847 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: would respect the motherfucker's talent. And you know what the 848 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,959 Speaker 1: fucking he done been through and all this hard work 849 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: of writing and coming up with songs and stories and 850 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: you know, trying to be able to hang with every 851 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: other motherfucking significant artists out there, and it's just some 852 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 1: motherfuckers come along and go, Now, you all deserve nothing. Here, 853 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 1: a nigga take this ten dollars while I take this 854 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: ten thousand. You feel me, it's just some niggas who 855 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 1: felt like that. And I say, those are the niggas 856 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: like you. 857 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 5: You wish that every motherfucker would be on the up 858 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 5: and up, like I tell you all the time. Still 859 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 5: it just don't happen, you feel me, It just don't happen. 860 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 5: If a motherfucker feel they can fuck you, they're going 861 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 5: to fuck you and they don't feel no remorse about it. 862 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: Ain't that crazy? So I think we all got them stories. Hey, Spice, 863 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: let me ask you this, ma'am. When you you was 864 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 1: a with JIB at the time, man, did you ever 865 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: talked to biggy Wise about the financial disparities that was 866 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:55,839 Speaker 1: going on up there? 867 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 6: Man? 868 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 5: I did you even have a direct connection to Barry 869 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 5: and Jeff or did you go everything through your manager? 870 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: I did for a while, and then and then they didn't. 871 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,760 Speaker 1: You know, they didn't talk to nobody but my manager. 872 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: You know, at the end, you know, they wouldn't. I 873 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: couldn't get Berry on the phone or Jeff on the 874 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: phone at the end, and that that hurt my feelings 875 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: due that that that really you know, they brought me 876 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,280 Speaker 1: up there and they used to throw me birthday parties, 877 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: you know, you you you know, give me my my 878 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,720 Speaker 1: my gold, my plate in the gold plaques and pushed 879 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: my record and all of that, you know, and all 880 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,439 Speaker 1: of a sudden the water cut off, and I didn't 881 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: know why, you know. 882 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 3: And my manager was he started if it seemed like 883 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 3: he was working for them, he wasn't working for me 884 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 3: no more. 885 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 6: You know. 886 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,919 Speaker 4: So fice, when you were going on Gold and having 887 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 4: all the success and and having these big records, big videos, soundtracks, 888 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 4: all this stuff, you literally only got your advances nobody 889 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 4: ever ever. 890 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: You know, I've just now started to see it of residuals, 891 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 1: uh because you know, I don't know what happened with job, 892 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 1: but if they still out there a lot. But you know, 893 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 1: I still get my get my residuals, get my rugties. 894 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: Some of the I'm not getting some I'm working on. 895 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,399 Speaker 1: But I still see it, you know what I'm saying. 896 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: But thirty years later, you know, well, you know, Spikes, 897 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, man, And you got to 898 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: look into this man and you maybe me, you and 899 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: so on. But they can have a conversation once we 900 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 1: get off the show. All of those albums have a 901 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: reversion on them to where you may own a lot 902 00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 1: of them albums right now. Yeah, right you may, only 903 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: you may some of this stuff is I know, bonus 904 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 1: about to get their stuff back. They're about to get 905 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: their albums back right now. And you should be in 906 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,280 Speaker 1: the same position, man, because it's a lot of stuff 907 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 1: that It's a lot of stuff that people did that 908 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 1: was crooked back then. Because you got to remember the 909 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 1: time when y'all signed y'all contracts. Man, it wasn't no 910 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 1: digital So I think they be selling digital albums and 911 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 1: streaming digital albums where they don't really have the right string. 912 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: Well it, yeah, it wasn't no such thing as the 913 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: end of that, yeah exactly. So we definitely got to 914 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 1: have a conversation, man, And I know it's a lot 915 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 1: of people trying to say the advantage of that right now, 916 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: Like me and eight had a guy to hear this 917 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,359 Speaker 1: man talking about some of them where eight may want 918 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: to go buy a car or he may want to 919 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 1: go buy some rims. I said, what the fuck. So 920 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 1: so they pretty much wanted to buy the rights to 921 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: this album for like, and I ain't even gonna talk 922 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,839 Speaker 1: about the Sun, but it was embarrassed, and I said, 923 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 1: why would he sell y'all that when that's what he 924 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 1: get a year off his routes? Exactly, that's great. 925 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 5: And the first it's in some people that feel like 926 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 5: all this on our generation or desperate right union. They 927 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 5: feel a lot of artists from our era are broke, 928 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 5: you know, because let's face it, we never did reap 929 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 5: the rewards from our work. Niggas was having gold and 930 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 5: platinum records and if that shit was today, you get me, 931 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 5: you'd be reaping. You be reaping the rewards from your 932 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 5: gold and platinum and double platinum records. But shit, back then, 933 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 5: you could have a motherfucking platinum record and you're still 934 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 5: living on the block, you know what I'm saying. 935 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 1: Uh, it just it just was, it just was shit 936 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 1: that was unheard of. 937 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 5: And for a motherfucker to take all this hard work 938 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 5: and like I said, again, trying to come up and 939 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 5: create but fucking shit, trying to create music that you know, 940 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,879 Speaker 5: when you got competition, like niggas like Spice wanted ice 941 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 5: Cube and Scarface and ll cool J and you get me. 942 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 1: You're trying to come up with decent material to looked up. 943 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 5: And Nigga a year later, Nigga, it's like, damn, my 944 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 5: record when platinum, but I ain't getting not a dollar 945 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 5: like a nigga, ain't a nigga, ain't send me a 946 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 5: check for nothing. 947 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: They didn't came knocking on my door talking about it's 948 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 1: time to do another album. I'm like, what the you know? 949 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 1: But it's unfortunate that we went through that era. You know, 950 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: now it's streaming and. 951 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 5: Digital and niggas could push their own shit and you 952 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 5: ain't gotta go through a label and all that shit. 953 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 5: Nigga could pocket all this money from fucking let me 954 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 5: drop my shit on a sound cloud or this, or 955 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,840 Speaker 5: you get me, I'm gonna get all my bread and 956 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 5: don't be a popular little artist who you know, city 957 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 5: getting behind them and fans and next thing you know, nigga, 958 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 5: he got a million streams on whatever. 959 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 1: Niggas collected real money nowadays it was, but you're not 960 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,439 Speaker 1: in masters or something, so you know, we just gotta 961 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,840 Speaker 1: fight a little longer, man, you know, to get on. 962 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: Just say spikes let me ask you this broom. You 963 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: were a phenomenal artist. He is a phenomenal artist. Do 964 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,320 Speaker 1: you ever feel like you get the respect from the industry? 965 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 1: I know you got the respect from the people, right, 966 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,240 Speaker 1: but do you ever feel like you get the respect 967 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 1: from like the the povers that be, like the guysis 968 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,720 Speaker 1: and the different people that's in position to do stuff. 969 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 1: Do you feel like that you get the respect you 970 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: supposed to? Well, the you know certain artists, I mean 971 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:38,320 Speaker 1: certain uh, certain certain fans out there. Are they just 972 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 1: a fan that just regular fans of hip hop? It's hard. 973 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,840 Speaker 3: It's hard for me to to to to register it 974 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 3: when they start mentioning Bay Area artists and they don't 975 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,879 Speaker 3: say spikes one that that that right there. 976 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:53,359 Speaker 1: That hurt. 977 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 3: That hurt a little bit, you know what I'm saying, 978 00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 3: knowing that you know one seventh fast nigga from the Bay, 979 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like this is this is 980 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 3: this is me saying this ship in and in the in. 981 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 1: Uh in ninety two ninety three, you could tell that 982 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: the East Bay was his home. You know, there was 983 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 1: no other artists representing the Bay like that back then 984 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,359 Speaker 1: except I think mac dre was. You know what I'm saying. 985 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,359 Speaker 1: Every artist was representing you know where they was from, 986 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 1: or I'm from the town from Oakland, I'm from I'm 987 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,839 Speaker 1: from uh from, I'm from the Leo. Uh. I didn't say, 988 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 1: you know, I'm from Hayward uh uh, but I did it. 989 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 1: I put it in my song. You know what I'm saying. 990 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,359 Speaker 1: I represented my town or whatever. But I just really 991 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 1: wanted to represent the Bay as a whole because I 992 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 1: felt like, you know, I was I was. I wasn't 993 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 1: just rapping to to uh to to one town. I 994 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,399 Speaker 1: was rapping to the world. Really, you know what I'm 995 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 1: saying that I want to represent the Bay Area, and 996 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 1: it seemed like, you know, you know, when you don't 997 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 1: get your props for when you know I don't get 998 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 1: our props for that, you know, it kind of hurt 999 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 1: a little bit, you know what I'm saying. But I 1000 00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 1: know who I am, and I know uh uh the 1001 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: people who respect me, and that's enough for me to 1002 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,399 Speaker 1: not even trip on that ship. You know what I'm saying. 1003 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 1: As far as every time I feel that way, all 1004 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 1: I do is I think you know, damn. The first 1005 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 1: time I landed in New York City, run DMC was 1006 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 1: sitting there waiting for me. It was waiting for me. 1007 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 1: They was sitting there waiting to see Spice One get 1008 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 1: out the I still had these cats on my wall 1009 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,360 Speaker 1: in my room and they wait for me when I 1010 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,800 Speaker 1: land so and I talked to him and they Spice. 1011 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, what y'all doing here? Man? We 1012 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 1: wait for you? What's up? You know? 1013 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 6: Uh uh? 1014 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 3: Like you know what's going on with your Spice? 1015 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,880 Speaker 1: And that was that. That that alone, that memory alone 1016 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 1: is enough for me to say, you know, he sh 1017 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 1: you know, I don't give a fuck, you know what 1018 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I know who I am, and ship, I 1019 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,880 Speaker 1: know what I did, and and and and memories like 1020 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 1: going to Japan and and seeing my Japanese fans and 1021 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 1: and and seeing them wait there at the airport for me, 1022 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: and the in crowds, and and me thinking, you know, 1023 00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 1: a man, is they waiting for me? On there? For me? 1024 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: Like for real? 1025 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 3: You know, after all of these years, you know, they 1026 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:03,840 Speaker 3: at the airport waiting for me. 1027 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 1: And yeah, they was. They was at the airport wait 1028 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 1: for Spikes one, with all my CDs and my old 1029 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 1: albums and showing me stuff, you know. And that and 1030 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,319 Speaker 1: that was way in Japan, so I know who I am. 1031 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,720 Speaker 1: So you know you're just you're just not going to spikes. 1032 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 1: Well no, this this was even back in h I've 1033 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 1: been there a few times, back in when I first 1034 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 1: landed there. The first time I went there was like 1035 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 1: maybe two thousand or twenty ten. 1036 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 3: Or something like that. 1037 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 1: And uh, and that's what it was, you know what 1038 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And and when when you when stuff like that, 1039 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:42,360 Speaker 1: when you when you uh experience stuff like that, you know, 1040 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,360 Speaker 1: you say to yourself, shit, you know, well, just because 1041 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,399 Speaker 1: these motherfuckers don't know who I am. Ship the rest 1042 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,759 Speaker 1: of the world is up on they ship like shit. 1043 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 1: Japan know who Spikes one is, and Germany know whose 1044 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 1: Spikes one is and in Australia know who Spikes one is. 1045 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 1: They come to the shows they represent. You know what 1046 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:01,839 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 1047 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 3: It's a few cats hate act like they don't. 1048 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: Know who I am, or don't give me my proper 1049 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,920 Speaker 1: respect or when it's respect to do. I don't give 1050 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,840 Speaker 1: a fuck because I know who I am around the world, 1051 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 1: not just the world, really, I don't. I don't never 1052 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 1: look for. 1053 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,840 Speaker 5: You give me because I know what I've done I 1054 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:33,240 Speaker 5: know what I do as far as being you know whatever, 1055 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 5: m C eight or whatever, but beyond that, you know, 1056 00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 5: trying to just be a good motherfucker, a good nigga today. 1057 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, A grown ass man. 1058 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:51,400 Speaker 5: Do I look for respect or whatever from other motherfuckers, 1059 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 5: you know, especially a lot of industry motherfuckers. I just 1060 00:55:55,640 --> 00:56:00,160 Speaker 5: put it like, you know, you don't gotta like what 1061 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 5: MC eight has done as far as musically or whatever 1062 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,480 Speaker 5: is your flavor, but you're gonna respect what MC eight 1063 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,240 Speaker 5: has done as far as the hip hop is concerned 1064 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 5: and what music is concerned. So that's just the way 1065 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 5: I feel about it. There's a lot of people gonna 1066 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 5: acknowledge that now, and sometimes that's cool. You know, if 1067 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,760 Speaker 5: a nigga want to say, under their breakfast behind closed doors, uh, nigga, 1068 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 5: you know, nigga was significant eight? 1069 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 1: Had you know this? 1070 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,400 Speaker 5: Or you know I used to bang eight when I 1071 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 5: was in hard times or nigga when we used to 1072 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 5: do this and we was hood niggas and we used 1073 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,800 Speaker 5: to put that tape on and roll through looking for 1074 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 5: whatever and not just on that type of tip. Just 1075 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 5: being able to tell stories and be a significant of 1076 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:56,759 Speaker 5: uh uh pillar so to speak. You know, I'm just 1077 00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,640 Speaker 5: one brick on the motherfucking the house of hip hop, 1078 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 5: so to speak. You're getting me, but niggas need to 1079 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 5: know I'm I'm I'm a solid brick in that motherfucker 1080 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,840 Speaker 5: and you can respect that. We ain't gotta like on music. 1081 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 5: You feel me, but you know recognized that I respect them. 1082 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,959 Speaker 5: Respect the fact that a nigga is a significant brick 1083 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 5: in that motherfucking house, in that foundation. 1084 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 1: You know that's real. And you know what, I'm gonna 1085 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 1: ask this question kind of for both of y'all, right, 1086 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 1: And I always wanted to ask you all this, like right, 1087 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 1: because you mentioned that you wanted the East coast, Spice, 1088 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: and you know you had running and see, you know, 1089 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: lessons wait for you at the airport just to shop 1090 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 1: it up with you. We're fanning. Your music surprised you 1091 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 1: the most. I'll let you go first, Spice, who fuck 1092 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 1: with your music? That really surprised you. And it was 1093 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 1: a few uh Jammie fox Man that that was that 1094 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 1: was treat. I had wrapped my uh my homeboy humbered 1095 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,480 Speaker 1: with my album cover and we was riding to LA 1096 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 1: and you know it was it was it was a 1097 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 1: limbo pulled up behind us. Remember the remember the nico 1098 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: A the hotel. Okay, we pulled up right in front 1099 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 1: of that motherfucking man and limo pulled up behind us. 1100 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 1: To the limo driver hop out and he like, you know, 1101 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 1: his spikes one in this in this uh hu in 1102 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 1: his in his in his hummery is he in? He? 1103 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 1: Is he in there? 1104 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,920 Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know, I'll said, who was that? 1105 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 3: I said, ask him who in the limo? He said, 1106 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 3: Jamie Fox is in the limo. 1107 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,880 Speaker 1: Ship. So I'm like, man, get the fuck out of 1108 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 1: end up. Damn Jamie Fox and the limo and and 1109 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 1: so so I hopped out the passenger side, off the 1110 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 1: back passenger seat, you know, and sure enough Jamie hopped 1111 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 1: out a suit on and all playing in the motherfucking 1112 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 1: He spiked, I'm like, oh ship, you know, like what 1113 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 1: the fuck? Like, okay, what's up? What's up? And we 1114 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 1: took him a pitch and chopped it up for a minute, 1115 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, and you know, he told me to listen 1116 00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 1: to my music. He knew what it was and ship 1117 00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 1: and that was that that type of ship is just 1118 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 1: enough for me to you know, any motherfucker who act 1119 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 1: like they don't know who a nigga is. I don't 1120 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, I ain't tripping nigga Jenniy Fox though who 1121 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,280 Speaker 1: I am? You know what I'm saying, Crazy Ship? Who else? 1122 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:15,960 Speaker 1: Who else fucked you up? 1123 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 6: Uh? Uh? 1124 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:27,720 Speaker 1: Mike Epps? Uh you know? Uh? 1125 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 4: He was? 1126 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:33,040 Speaker 1: I think, well it was on two occasions. He was 1127 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 1: out here, uh in in Vegas, you know, and he 1128 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 1: was with some of my guys from from North Richmond, 1129 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 1: uh you know, and you know about the North Frischman took. 1130 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 1: Oh definitely seemed like he beat up on Shipping though. 1131 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He saw that, Mike, that's the only Yeah. 1132 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,720 Speaker 1: He was a real dude, you know what I'm saying. 1133 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,920 Speaker 1: He was richman niggas out here in in Vegas. And 1134 00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 1: they called me like like maybe four five in the morning, like, man, 1135 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, we got Mike Epps over here. He he 1136 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 1: passed out and he told us he fu he fucked 1137 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,520 Speaker 1: with you, you know what I'm saying, And we told 1138 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 1: me we knew you, and he don't believe it. He 1139 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 1: wants you to us to hit you up, but he 1140 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 1: passed out before you know, we can get a touch 1141 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,360 Speaker 1: with you. And I said, man, you know, come get 1142 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, so they came and copped me and Kane 1143 01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 1: swrew me up. Man, I go to the to the 1144 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 1: uh to they had a hotel, uh and uh sure enough, 1145 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, Mike Epps was in there. You know what 1146 01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying. He was out, and so I woke him 1147 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 1: up like uh like uh like methan man walk a 1148 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 1: red man on on the on Uh how high? How high? 1149 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 1: You know? I just turned on I turned on one 1150 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 1: a cereproof and I had one lit up, and I'm 1151 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 1: like pulling on the corner with him. You know, he 1152 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,120 Speaker 1: woke up to me, you know, speaking one a cereroproof 1153 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 1: with the blood Parado tore up here like like oh 1154 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 1: shit me like spice bud, they got told him aout 1155 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 1: th huh. You know you know that that's just that 1156 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,560 Speaker 1: was some of the coolest ship I could ever encounted, 1157 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So shout out. I'm like 1158 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,560 Speaker 1: that man, real dudes, you know what I'm saying. That 1159 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 1: sounded like a hell of a motherfucker dream right there. 1160 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 1: He probably woke up like what the fuck is going on? 1161 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 1: Can you made your story? You're sleeping? You wake up? 1162 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:22,720 Speaker 1: The spike's gotta blood me. I didn't give that proved 1163 01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 1: at the crack shot. Hey, who fucked you up under 1164 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 1: Britney Spears. 1165 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 5: Who fucked me up was the regular motherfucker who hit 1166 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 5: my d M today and told me he was banging 1167 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 5: on my new record. 1168 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 1: That's what fucks me up. That's what I appreciate. That's 1169 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 1: that's definitely something you can appreciate. 1170 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 5: I appreciate a regular ass motherfucker who can steal, a 1171 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:56,600 Speaker 5: regular motherfucker who's in my age bracket, who can steal, turn. 1172 01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:01,120 Speaker 1: On some new ship and go, man, I was just 1173 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 1: banging this ship earlier. Or niggas who reminisce about you know, 1174 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,440 Speaker 1: past songs. You know, I appreciate that. 1175 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,040 Speaker 5: You get me and then you know, you can get 1176 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 5: on shit like Instagram now and see Lebron James in 1177 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,480 Speaker 5: the back of his you know way on the way 1178 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,040 Speaker 5: to the game bumping some straight up minutes. 1179 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 1: So you know, I mean eating all the words and ship. 1180 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 5: You know, you you Cleveland niggas, man, You know y'all 1181 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,440 Speaker 5: gotta get the words down, man. But I appreciate my 1182 01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:36,320 Speaker 5: nigga because my nigga appreciates real uh. 1183 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,880 Speaker 1: My nigga appreciate some real motherfucker. 1184 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,200 Speaker 5: Hip hop you give me, and not to just be 1185 01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,160 Speaker 5: not to just be on some commercialized shit, because you know, 1186 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,120 Speaker 5: when it comes to Lebron, they expect him to listen 1187 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 5: to some drake or something, you know, some you know, 1188 01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 5: if you know those those people, you know, some Drake 1189 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,600 Speaker 5: or some twenty one or something. You know, they expect, 1190 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 5: you know, Lebron to listen to them cats. But you know, 1191 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,840 Speaker 5: to see him uh in the back of his ride 1192 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 5: on the way to the game and uh banging some 1193 01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,000 Speaker 5: straight up minutes and when trying to mimic the words 1194 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:14,400 Speaker 5: man that that was pretty cool. 1195 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 1: Well yeah, well you know I got this today. Man. 1196 01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,880 Speaker 1: I try to tell Ada on his d young but 1197 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:21,720 Speaker 1: he has a responder. But let him know that his 1198 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 1: last album listen To is a real dope, gid pop album. 1199 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,440 Speaker 1: It's actually one of me and my girl favorite albums 1200 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,120 Speaker 1: this year. And this is dude named Brayland d some 1201 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 1: shout out Brady, Yeah good, good shout out Gray. Look 1202 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,400 Speaker 1: like I said, average people, man, that's what that's what 1203 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:37,480 Speaker 1: that's what's that's what's cracking. 1204 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 5: Man. 1205 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 1: That's cool as hell. And I think that's why and 1206 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,360 Speaker 1: I think that's why thirty years later, man, y'all still 1207 01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:49,080 Speaker 1: doing shows, still got people, man that love what it 1208 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,200 Speaker 1: is that y'all do because it's all about the common man. 1209 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,440 Speaker 1: Y'all made y'all, y'all were able to make a connection 1210 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 1: with the common man. Nothing y'all. I see this Saturday, nigga, 1211 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're gonna turn up you already talking on 1212 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 1: aisle right, yeah, miss the Minister society too. Yeah, only 1213 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 1: Tira gonna be out there. You know, timing is funny 1214 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 1: because he always called me know time and talk. He said, hey, hey, 1215 01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 1: still they put. 1216 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 5: They put one eighty seven on the bill too, so 1217 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 5: you know it's all crying when they seven. I need 1218 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:23,960 Speaker 5: to hear cold up. I need to hear him out 1219 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:25,440 Speaker 5: to get what it's. 1220 01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,200 Speaker 1: Gonna be a gangster perny man soon it's all good man, 1221 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,080 Speaker 1: So shure you know what it is. This episode of 1222 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 1: Man is gonna drop on Thanksgiving, Man, So we want 1223 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 1: to wish everybody out there man a happy Thanksgiving. Man. 1224 01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,080 Speaker 5: Won't your cook in eight ain't cooking? Ship, nigga eat 1225 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:40,920 Speaker 5: and I ain't cooking. 1226 01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:43,840 Speaker 1: They gonna be over eating shiplins and smoking him a 1227 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:44,360 Speaker 1: blunt man. 1228 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 5: Well do that ship. We do not mess with porky 1229 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,200 Speaker 5: pig man. I don't fuck with no chiplins either. I 1230 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:52,480 Speaker 5: used to like a motherfucker. 1231 01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,080 Speaker 1: Hey, I ain't. I ain't too hot on the child. 1232 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,440 Speaker 1: I ain't looking for them. This year, I'll probably be 1233 01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,400 Speaker 1: doing this. We're gonna find your say have a say 1234 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,880 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving man, and we see y'all on the flip man. 1235 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,720 Speaker 1: That's what it do. Well. That concludes another episode of 1236 01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,240 Speaker 1: the Gainst the Chronicles podcast. 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