WEBVTT - Getting the Long D with Taylor Nolan

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I Suck Good Dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jared

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<v Speaker 1>and I Heart radio podcast. Hey guys, welcome to another

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Help I Suck at Dating. That's right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a female voice. It's me. I haven't left this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been away for a couple of days. Dean is

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<v Speaker 1>in studio, Jared, I think, is out at a charity event. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm very excited to be back, very excited for

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<v Speaker 1>our two guests that are coming on today, one being

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<v Speaker 1>an quote unquote apparently ex boyfriend of mine. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to get I don't even know how to say his

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<v Speaker 1>last name, Bordakovski board for six months. You don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know how to say his last name. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to say his last name. And my girl, Taylor Nolan,

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<v Speaker 1>who was on nixt season, is going to be coming

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<v Speaker 1>on and talking to us about her relationship. She's doing

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<v Speaker 1>the Long D and she's going to give us some

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<v Speaker 1>advice on that. She's doing the Long D. She's doing

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<v Speaker 1>the Long D. That's pretty funny. Um. Yeah, So we

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<v Speaker 1>we have Alex on hold at the moment. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>him on one second, but before we do, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners out there listen. Listened to last week's podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, because why wouldn't you in last week's podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I hold? Can I start? So I was listening,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm like, oh my god, I missed the boys.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was on my way back from Maine with

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<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend in the car, five hour drive back, did

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<v Speaker 1>a little you know, two hours stop at Target. So

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<v Speaker 1>we and we we we were listening to the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and I was fast forwarding because I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to hear Alex. He's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>hysterical on the podcast. And it starts right at the

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<v Speaker 1>right at the point where he's like, yeah, well we

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<v Speaker 1>did it for however long he had said, and the

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<v Speaker 1>sucks was whatever the stable. I was like, and I

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<v Speaker 1>look at my boyfriend and I'm like, he's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys dated. I was like no, I'm like in my head,

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<v Speaker 1>I was so confused, and like, does Alex actually think

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<v Speaker 1>we dated? Like we didn't have sex, so he can't

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<v Speaker 1>think that we actually dated. But I'm sure he's on

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<v Speaker 1>listening to this conversation right now. So this episode you

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<v Speaker 1>can't hear anything, just documented. But I still wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do a little bit more hold on, hold on. Yeah, So,

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<v Speaker 1>as Vanessa stated last week's podcast, we talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessa and Alex allegedly dated. Um, Alex, I you know

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<v Speaker 1>him well, I know that he's being sarcastic. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's hilarious that your boyfriend was in the car though,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's just as awkward timing. Anyways, Like I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say for our listeners, listen to last week's episode

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<v Speaker 1>before listening to this if you haven't already, and it

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<v Speaker 1>will help ride some context. But we have Alex on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone. He is I mean, I'm sure he's just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna sit there with this tale between his legs and

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<v Speaker 1>apologize humently. But um should as he should, he should

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<v Speaker 1>absolute frutely. Um. So Mark, I'm gonna ge him on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone. Hey, Alex, how's it going man? Good? How

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<v Speaker 1>are you? Long time no talk? It's been a while

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<v Speaker 1>since I did and send you some threatening text messages.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't at all, So I just wanted to I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to start off by saying I was and I

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<v Speaker 1>just said this before I was laughing hysterically. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know your sense of humor, and I can't even

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<v Speaker 1>be mad at you because I'm like, I know Alex,

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<v Speaker 1>but not everyone Like Jared was confused too, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>so is my boyfriend in the car. He's like, what,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys dated and I'm like, no, we didn't date,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love you so much, like I find you

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<v Speaker 1>hysterical and you're just like such a smart human being,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I don't want anyone. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like annoyed, because that's how rumors start, right. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised people actually bought it because they was such

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<v Speaker 1>a hyperbally. I didn't think anyone even gonna, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>give it any light. Obviously. You know we have a

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<v Speaker 1>great report between you and I that I knew. I

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<v Speaker 1>was I'll make this joke. I wasn't me thinking. I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to say something outlandish because I was giving

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<v Speaker 1>being a hard time in the moment, Like people bought

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<v Speaker 1>it and it wasn't that taste espectually without you being there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I do apologize. Obviously I meant no disrespect. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know what the funniest part is, you're texting me

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<v Speaker 1>back Intead. It's funny you stopped. The sex was good.

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<v Speaker 1>That was what's so funny about this sex being good.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess is the question like that jokes that was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>sex was good, everything was terrible. And that's that's something

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<v Speaker 1>I think to like, Oh, my guy friends like about

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<v Speaker 1>like if oh we should just say I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>sex would be good, but everything would be terrible. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I get that, but why is the sex being good funny?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I thought it was. The joke is if the

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<v Speaker 1>sex is good, being funny means that your sex typically

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<v Speaker 1>would be bad. Yeah, right, right, that's the point. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I was okay, I didn't take it like that. It's okay. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously I think most of the things with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of levity and starcasm. And you guys know me, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe your followers or your listeners aren't as uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as knowledgeable of this. So I do apologize. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>meant to start any any drama. That's the most drama

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<v Speaker 1>I think I have ever caused. I know, uh, Dean

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<v Speaker 1>was loving this well, Alex, Dean loves the job. It's

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<v Speaker 1>funny actually, Alex that you mentioned that because on the

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<v Speaker 1>other line at this very moment, we have Caroline Leney

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to be joining us. I love that. I

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<v Speaker 1>just you know what, actually some kind of bad because

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<v Speaker 1>I underplayed our our relationship a little bit. I felt almost,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because I mentioned something along the lines that

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't you know, I was a little more reticent

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<v Speaker 1>when they came to sharing about my life. But I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't mean to do like knock down on people that

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<v Speaker 1>do share. It's just like a contrast statement toors like

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm a little more is there some people are

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<v Speaker 1>more comfortable with sharing their lives. I know you guys

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<v Speaker 1>do obviously, And it came off a little uh negative,

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<v Speaker 1>So I did. I didn't mean to say that either.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know when I've got that way. I really

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<v Speaker 1>I like last week Alex a lot more. He was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was very watching himself. Yeah, yeah, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>have now because I came in. You know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for you for an our dominoes. I've been ready. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to do every time now like you have

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<v Speaker 1>to get me really dump a little bit before you

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<v Speaker 1>invite me. Nothing is on accident, Alex. You think I

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<v Speaker 1>left you on what. I didn't want to take anything

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<v Speaker 1>back from Paradise. I meant the drama and I think

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<v Speaker 1>I got a couple of games like wow, what a dick.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't mean like I didn't need to

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<v Speaker 1>take anyone home Paradise. It's like it doesn't follow you

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<v Speaker 1>at the drama. So I loved it. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was a great, great podcast. I actually listened

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<v Speaker 1>twice to it after Oh my god, you love yourself? No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was like, I need to correct mistakes. Whoa, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry I started interrupting you correct your mistakes. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think would Vanessa dating for six months as a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna start listening from this point on and thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that Alex and I never dated. I absolutely adore you.

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<v Speaker 1>When I found out you run Baschlard Paradise, Bashion Paradise

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<v Speaker 1>Australia and Caroline was there, I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys need to Like. I was like, I would

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<v Speaker 1>so ship this relationship. And I even messaged her yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, dude, we did not date. It's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I told him to apologize to you because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm friends of Caroline. Also, I definitely thought

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely heard about this, and I want to apologize

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<v Speaker 1>to everyone except for Dean, and You're welcome. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so, Yeah, I don't know. Do I want anyone else? Apology?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Marking Easton would probably appreciate one charity. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>really I didn't. I didn't acknowledge that, you know how

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<v Speaker 1>good looking they both are. You know, I helped back,

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<v Speaker 1>I help that you guys are. Yeah. Well, Alex, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean thanks for thanks for being a good sport man

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<v Speaker 1>and jumping on the phone and clear yeah, we love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Anytime you want me to call, I'm going to clear

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<v Speaker 1>it up here for you yet, think about Deacon next time, Alex,

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<v Speaker 1>who's next on your radar? Do you think Bachelor former

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<v Speaker 1>cast member? Are you going to set your sights on?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a good question. I'm gonna think gonna stay

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<v Speaker 1>wait for the Bachelor nation for a little bit. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try the normal life. Smart man, smart man, What

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<v Speaker 1>about you? I think we all can take a page

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<v Speaker 1>out of Alex's book and just stay the heck away. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you where Dean is going montego bababy.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Alex, thanks so much for joining us, man,

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<v Speaker 1>We really appreciate it. Thanks for clearing the accept it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you soon, all right. Thanks for having so there.

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<v Speaker 1>You have it. Oh my god. First of all, Alex

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<v Speaker 1>is like one of our listeners. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you know that one episode we were talking about well,

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<v Speaker 1>I started crying about wanting I think it was just

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<v Speaker 1>Mark and I. Mark, remember that episode when we had

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<v Speaker 1>a girl's talk and You're like, Fanessa, do you want kids?

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<v Speaker 1>And I just started crying. You're like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>that I see something wrong. I'm like, no, it's because

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<v Speaker 1>I've always wanted kids. Yeah. Actually I felt so bad

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<v Speaker 1>at my snuff that you said is just something that

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<v Speaker 1>I want so badly. He Alex ended up texting me

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<v Speaker 1>that day and was like, I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea to get you to freeze your eggs,

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<v Speaker 1>because apparently he like does a lot of research on things,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's like my go to guy whenever I need

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<v Speaker 1>advice on something specific because he has so he's a

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<v Speaker 1>wealth of knowledge. One of my friend Alex, one of

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<v Speaker 1>my friends, is turning thirty five next week, and she

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<v Speaker 1>is single and has no children. And it's funny because

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<v Speaker 1>we we were talking and she said how she has

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<v Speaker 1>been encouraged to freeze her eggs and I obviously mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>you and how um you know, my friend Vanessa was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about the same thing, and then she says, there

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<v Speaker 1>is no no person that's been born of a frozen

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<v Speaker 1>egg is over the age of seven or eight, or

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<v Speaker 1>nine or ten or however old. Right, there's no seventy

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<v Speaker 1>year old human being from a frozen egg. You have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea the health risks that go into the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of freezing your eggs in that human later on. And

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<v Speaker 1>I had never thought about that. I didn't think about

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<v Speaker 1>that either, And she she said that's one of her

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<v Speaker 1>main turns for freezing her eggs. She wants it to

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<v Speaker 1>happen naturally. Well, because then there's the reverse that can happen.

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<v Speaker 1>To write, if your eggs are well, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>too much about it, so I don't know if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying even makes sense. But if your eggs are a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more mature, then I think there's a risk

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<v Speaker 1>after the age of thirty five, I'm not sure of

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<v Speaker 1>the exact number. You have to do a test to

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<v Speaker 1>see if there's any complications with um with the baby. Right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't post thirty five years old. As a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>It's considered a geriatric pregnancy, which is in my opinion

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of ridiculous, isn't it? And I'm thirty one, Dean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thirty. I'm turning thirty two in a couple of months,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. And you don't look a day over twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, but my eggs feel it real thirty two,

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<v Speaker 1>My eggs real thirty two. I'm just saying I appreciated

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<v Speaker 1>her approach on it, my friend that I was just

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, because she just says like, whatever is will be,

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<v Speaker 1>And I know you have that same same approach as well. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but how are things looking with you in the BF?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any progress made in so good? I as

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<v Speaker 1>someone had just messaged me like, oh I see love

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<v Speaker 1>and happiness? Do I see a wedding anytime soon? And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this is the first relationship that I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>taking it slow, And um, I think for me, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been someone that loves remember like Amy being like slow down,

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessa like you like you You're putting way too much

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<v Speaker 1>energy and thought into a relationship and I'm like, because

0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.199
<v Speaker 1>I want one so badly, And we ended up meeting

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<v Speaker 1>out of the blue and it went really quick at

0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:33.760
<v Speaker 1>the beginning. Um, and I feel like there's a lot

0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:37.040
<v Speaker 1>that has happened between us from very early early on

0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.840
<v Speaker 1>in our relationship that has made us grow a lot stronger,

0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:45.240
<v Speaker 1>and it could have gone the complete other way. Um.

0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.400
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like, so the old me was so

0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:50.920
<v Speaker 1>into the bachelor, like quickly, like being into a relationship,

0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.760
<v Speaker 1>like going full force in and like getting engaged, and

0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:55.400
<v Speaker 1>like I was, I'm like, yeah, I would love that,

0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I still believe in that in that process. Um,

0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.640
<v Speaker 1>but as I'm getting old and my holy it takes

0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:06.280
<v Speaker 1>a long time to really get to know a person.

0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.720
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know about you, but do you like

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<v Speaker 1>to know about people's past? Um? You know, I like

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<v Speaker 1>to say that it wouldn't affect my, uh my view

0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.560
<v Speaker 1>point on anyone, but I think it kind of does,

0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:22.280
<v Speaker 1>regardless of whether we want to believe it or not. Yeah, Well, like,

0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.240
<v Speaker 1>how much do you want to know about someone's past?

0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.840
<v Speaker 1>This is a good topic because I love being I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to know every minor detail you do,

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<v Speaker 1>as honestly and fully described as possible. Yeah, I think

0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.760
<v Speaker 1>so would you not? Yeah, but I feel like most

0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.840
<v Speaker 1>girls are like that. Most men don't really want to know. Um,

0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Like you're saying, like a mom is the word sort

0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.400
<v Speaker 1>of thing. I mean, I have run into some issues

0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:48.120
<v Speaker 1>in the past where I've learned some things of like

0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.520
<v Speaker 1>former uh interests that I didn't like, and then I

0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:53.440
<v Speaker 1>was like getting down on myself or even letting that

0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.839
<v Speaker 1>affect my opinion of that person, you know, or those people,

0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.480
<v Speaker 1>um and so like it's easier to not know things,

0:12:58.559 --> 0:12:59.719
<v Speaker 1>I think, but at the end of the day, like,

0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:01.600
<v Speaker 1>if you're really fully, truly going to love someone, you

0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.880
<v Speaker 1>should know everything about them. I absolutely agree. I think

0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.520
<v Speaker 1>it's um a cash twenty two though, because I believe

0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:10.320
<v Speaker 1>that you I want to know everything there is to

0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.559
<v Speaker 1>know about the person. But at the same time, sometimes

0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:15.800
<v Speaker 1>it's hard not to judge or to get jealous about,

0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:22.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, a person's past or um. Yeah. So I've

0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.040
<v Speaker 1>started to really enjoy it because like I have a

0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:27.199
<v Speaker 1>kind of dodgy pass like um from like shoplifting to

0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:30.040
<v Speaker 1>like doing drugs to getting arrested to like all these

0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:31.880
<v Speaker 1>things that I've done in my life, and I've used

0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:33.960
<v Speaker 1>to like kind of like shy away from sharing those things.

0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.560
<v Speaker 1>But now I'm just like that's a lot of what

0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:39.839
<v Speaker 1>makes me who I am today, and I own that

0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:41.440
<v Speaker 1>in my I don't know I just think it's kind

0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.439
<v Speaker 1>of fun, you know, it's Yeah, I think I think

0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:49.679
<v Speaker 1>if you don't have anything that uh like crazy or

0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.839
<v Speaker 1>not even crazy, just like if you don't have a history,

0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.600
<v Speaker 1>then for me that's scarier because that means is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot that you still need to learn and do and

0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:01.800
<v Speaker 1>explore and go through. Um. So a good thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you did all the shoplifting when you were younger. Yeah, um,

0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:07.120
<v Speaker 1>well so you kind of dodged a question about you

0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:10.319
<v Speaker 1>and Josh a little bit. Oh okay, Um no, I

0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:12.679
<v Speaker 1>mean it's going great. He's I've never been in a

0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:17.720
<v Speaker 1>relationship that is just healthy, you know, like healthy in

0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.440
<v Speaker 1>the sense that I know, I can be someone that

0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:22.320
<v Speaker 1>could be a lot to deal with, in the sense

0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:24.960
<v Speaker 1>that I you know, I like spending time with the

0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:28.280
<v Speaker 1>firston i'm dating. Um Um, I like for them to

0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:31.160
<v Speaker 1>spend time with my family, and it's very we have

0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.360
<v Speaker 1>very similar interests when it comes to that. Yeah, there's

0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's there's desolutely nothing wrong with that. I

0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.640
<v Speaker 1>don't think I think it's great. No, yeah, but I

0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:40.520
<v Speaker 1>think for some people, like I dated this one guy

0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:45.280
<v Speaker 1>who couldn't handle it. You're engaged to him? No, no, no, no,

0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:49.960
<v Speaker 1>this other guy. Um, well, I guess what I wanted

0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.160
<v Speaker 1>you to maybe speak more clearly on was have you

0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.600
<v Speaker 1>and Josh talked about children at all? Because I know, like,

0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:56.840
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, it is a very important thing to you,

0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.800
<v Speaker 1>and so is what is the result of that conversation

0:14:59.880 --> 0:15:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you typically have with him about that he wants kids?

0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.560
<v Speaker 1>And that made me so happy. He wants kids. And

0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:07.520
<v Speaker 1>apparently his sister was telling me like, this is the

0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.080
<v Speaker 1>first time I hear Josh ever say that he can't

0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.000
<v Speaker 1>wait to start a family. You guys would have something

0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:18.520
<v Speaker 1>freaking good looking children, deany would you babysit? I'll be

0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:22.240
<v Speaker 1>like the fun uncle. Yet gladly an hour doesn't take

0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.280
<v Speaker 1>another park to like kid on girls or something like that.

0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that'd be hilarious. Yeah, when they're thirty,

0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:30.400
<v Speaker 1>that'd be fine. Um, he's no. So he's like really

0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:34.160
<v Speaker 1>family oriented and wants kids, and I think it's important.

0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Like he's Jewish. I'm Catholic, but I'm not religious, Like

0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not super religious. He's not super religious either. And

0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:44.320
<v Speaker 1>what I love about his family is they love learning

0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:47.200
<v Speaker 1>about different cultures and different religions around the world, and

0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:49.360
<v Speaker 1>they're so inclusive to all of that, and I think

0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.920
<v Speaker 1>it's important to have to bring a child into this

0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:56.280
<v Speaker 1>world that um is open to all this wealth of

0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.800
<v Speaker 1>knowledge that exists around us, you know. Anyway, So yeah,

0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:04.120
<v Speaker 1>very happy, but taking things slow and any talk of

0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:08.400
<v Speaker 1>an engagement coming up anytime soon. Dude. He the thing.

0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like t M I but he wanted to when

0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:14.160
<v Speaker 1>we first met. He was like, oh my god, he

0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.200
<v Speaker 1>told me after and I'm like, thank god, you didn't

0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.040
<v Speaker 1>do this. You wanted to propose to me, like months

0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.720
<v Speaker 1>into our relationship, and like, we're not on the Bachelor,

0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Like you don't need to get down on one kneed

0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:27.000
<v Speaker 1>as quickly. Um. But we just have so much love

0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.160
<v Speaker 1>and respect for each other, and like I said, we've

0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.680
<v Speaker 1>gone through quite a bit UM in our relationship that

0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:37.600
<v Speaker 1>made this bond so incredibly strong. UM. And he's someone

0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:41.960
<v Speaker 1>who loves talking about his feelings, which is rare. Yeah,

0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:43.840
<v Speaker 1>that's great to hear. It's great to hear that he

0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:45.360
<v Speaker 1>was even open about that thought that he had. And

0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:47.360
<v Speaker 1>you guys obviously are still doing really well to this day.

0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I think I agree with everything you're saying. It sounds

0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:51.600
<v Speaker 1>like everything's trending in the right direction. Um. And I'm

0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:55.480
<v Speaker 1>super super happy for v Dany what about you. We're

0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:57.480
<v Speaker 1>not gonna talk about me. We're actually gonna get your good,

0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.240
<v Speaker 1>good friend Taylor no One on the phone. But before

0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.800
<v Speaker 1>we do that, we are going to take a quick break.

0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:06.159
<v Speaker 1>So that's enough about my love life. But another huge

0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.400
<v Speaker 1>um part of my love life is my friendship with

0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:13.040
<v Speaker 1>the one and only Taylor Nolan, who was on Nick

0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:18.480
<v Speaker 1>season at the Bachelor. Tay, are you on the phone? Hey? Hey,

0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:24.760
<v Speaker 1>hi love, how are you aga? We're just talking about,

0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:30.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, my relationship and how Dean is still single,

0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.320
<v Speaker 1>how I'm sabotaging the relationship with my friend Alex talking

0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:37.040
<v Speaker 1>about your former love. Oh yeah yeah yeah we he

0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Alex call and apologize. But I wanted to talk to you.

0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean I talked to you literally nine times a day,

0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:49.000
<v Speaker 1>and um, we go to states together. Yeah, we are always, always,

0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:51.960
<v Speaker 1>always attached to the hip. But I wanted to talk

0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:56.240
<v Speaker 1>about your relationship because I get a lot of questions

0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:59.920
<v Speaker 1>about people who are pursuing long distance relationships, whether that

0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:03.359
<v Speaker 1>at because they're now, you know, leaving high school and

0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:07.640
<v Speaker 1>going to different universities. So how do you well talk

0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:09.680
<v Speaker 1>to us a little bit about how you met your

0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:13.200
<v Speaker 1>now boyfriend. He's Canadian. Yeah, how did you meet him?

0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:17.639
<v Speaker 1>And and how are you making the long dy work

0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:24.879
<v Speaker 1>the long day the long day? Um? Yeah, we met

0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:29.960
<v Speaker 1>at a conference. Um. And long distance is not my favorite,

0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:33.359
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't and there's pros and cons to it

0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:36.280
<v Speaker 1>for sure, but I would definitely prefer to not be

0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.600
<v Speaker 1>long distance. Um. And I think it's really different when

0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:42.960
<v Speaker 1>like you start your relationship in the same place and

0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.959
<v Speaker 1>then have a period of being long distance, as opposed

0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:49.040
<v Speaker 1>to like starting a relationship long distance, which is what

0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I've done. Um. I did have one relationship where we

0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:56.480
<v Speaker 1>were together and then did long distance. Um. But it's

0:18:56.520 --> 0:19:02.520
<v Speaker 1>definitely not easy to do. So do you have anything

0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.679
<v Speaker 1>that you like? I know some people say, oh, well,

0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:08.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, we started this Netflix show and we only

0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:11.560
<v Speaker 1>watch it at the same time together while we're like

0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:15.440
<v Speaker 1>in different Yeah. So do you do stuff like that

0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:17.680
<v Speaker 1>to create a stronger bond? I mean I know that

0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:22.320
<v Speaker 1>you guys don't. Well, yeah, you're asking the question, you

0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:25.439
<v Speaker 1>are do I just got to give people what they

0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:29.960
<v Speaker 1>need to hear. Yeah. Um no, So one thing I

0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:34.280
<v Speaker 1>recommend doing is doing FaceTime dinners together. Um. So, one

0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:38.359
<v Speaker 1>thing that I've actually asked him for during this separation

0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:41.040
<v Speaker 1>period that we have now. Um, one of the things

0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:43.280
<v Speaker 1>I requested one of my needs was that I would

0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.840
<v Speaker 1>love for us to do FaceTime dinners, UM, something I've

0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:48.080
<v Speaker 1>done in the past where you guys either like make

0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:50.639
<v Speaker 1>the same thing or just are eating different things, but

0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:53.040
<v Speaker 1>like you sit down and you have a FaceTime where

0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:56.960
<v Speaker 1>you're eating together and like it kind of feels like

0:19:56.960 --> 0:19:59.280
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a date night in a way. UM.

0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:02.239
<v Speaker 1>And an another big thing that I love doing that

0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I totally recommend to people is sexy face time. UM, longest,

0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:10.840
<v Speaker 1>real hard when it comes to you know, your text

0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:20.639
<v Speaker 1>so being are you making a face at me? Yeah?

0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:24.960
<v Speaker 1>The sexy face times are the best. So tell us

0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:28.480
<v Speaker 1>what goes into a sexy FaceTime? Okay, Well, a sexy

0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:32.480
<v Speaker 1>face time can be many different things. Um. One of

0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:36.440
<v Speaker 1>the things that I enjoy with sexy face times are

0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:42.960
<v Speaker 1>like engaging in some dirty talk, discussing like role plays

0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:48.200
<v Speaker 1>or fantasy type things. UM, some mutual masturbation if you're

0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:52.080
<v Speaker 1>comfortable with that, um, but really just being able to

0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:55.320
<v Speaker 1>explore each other sexually. You know. Let me ask you this.

0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:57.159
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, because I struggle with a

0:20:57.160 --> 0:21:00.000
<v Speaker 1>few of these things that you're outlining A I don't

0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:02.879
<v Speaker 1>specifically basically all of them. And so actually I just

0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.080
<v Speaker 1>want to get a better understanding of if it's if

0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:07.639
<v Speaker 1>there's anything I struggle with dirty talk in the moment,

0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:09.280
<v Speaker 1>like when things are getting hot and heavy, I just

0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:12.679
<v Speaker 1>don't do dirty talk. I struggle even to you're just

0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:15.719
<v Speaker 1>like smiling your face like me be me with like

0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:19.119
<v Speaker 1>this massive smile. It's not it's not the most uh.

0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:21.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what what's called it, but okay, So so

0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:25.200
<v Speaker 1>so I go with dirty talk. I struggle with um,

0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:28.200
<v Speaker 1>face timing consistently, like I don't like to really jump

0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:31.840
<v Speaker 1>on the phone very often. And then I also struggle

0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:37.080
<v Speaker 1>with uh, sexual images, so like I don't send or

0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I've never really asked for like sexy pictures from a

0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:42.719
<v Speaker 1>significant other. So that's like the triple wall amy do

0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you want occasionally? So one thing I would say in

0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:50.840
<v Speaker 1>terms of like the dirty stock, UM, I know that

0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:52.520
<v Speaker 1>can be really hard to like get out of your

0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:54.840
<v Speaker 1>head kind of you can kind of feel a little

0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:57.720
<v Speaker 1>bit silly starting that. Um. So one way to kind

0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:00.199
<v Speaker 1>of like ease your way into doing that dirty talk

0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:05.280
<v Speaker 1>is through sex beams. Um, there's you can kind of

0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:07.400
<v Speaker 1>like role play out just like what I would want

0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:09.320
<v Speaker 1>to do to you, and like creating that kind of

0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:11.480
<v Speaker 1>image in your head or even referring back in your

0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:14.200
<v Speaker 1>head to um, like the last time that you were

0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:17.639
<v Speaker 1>intimate with that person and kind of just describing that

0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:20.760
<v Speaker 1>out via text that can kind of get you more

0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:24.119
<v Speaker 1>in the mood. And practice doing that where then you

0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.560
<v Speaker 1>are in the moment um you might be able to

0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:30.960
<v Speaker 1>lean into dirty talk more. Um. One thing that sex

0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:34.560
<v Speaker 1>researchers definitely recommends in terms of having better sex is

0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:38.000
<v Speaker 1>being more vocal during those acts. So even if you're

0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:41.440
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily dirty talking, like do you struggle with even

0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:46.200
<v Speaker 1>just expressing like moaning and whatnot when you're engagement? Sex

0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:48.320
<v Speaker 1>does get a real personal beings. I feel like sometimes

0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I have to I have to consciously tell myself to

0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:52.800
<v Speaker 1>make noises during sex sometimes, like hey, just make sure

0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:54.480
<v Speaker 1>you're like, just give her like a grunt so you know,

0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:56.000
<v Speaker 1>like you're enjoying it, you know what I mean? Like

0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:58.480
<v Speaker 1>because if if I if I had it my way,

0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:00.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I would assume that I would

0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:02.800
<v Speaker 1>be perfectly silent the entire time. I actually read something

0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 1>that most men don't like making noises when during intercourse. Yeah, yeah,

0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:11.680
<v Speaker 1>And I think a lot of that comes with being vulnerable,

0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:16.400
<v Speaker 1>because to express yourself that way during some kind of

0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:20.000
<v Speaker 1>intimate moments take a lot of vulnerability. And seeing you

0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:21.800
<v Speaker 1>and I have talked and you talk a lot on

0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:25.120
<v Speaker 1>here about some of the walls that we might have up, um,

0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:29.200
<v Speaker 1>and if we've got some walls up um, just kind

0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:31.840
<v Speaker 1>of in the relationship emotionally in general, then that can

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:36.520
<v Speaker 1>definitely translate into your intimate moment. I wonder too, how

0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:39.280
<v Speaker 1>every time the word masturbation gets set on this podcast

0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:40.719
<v Speaker 1>that we all get kind of like weird looks from

0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the producers because I don't know if we're a lot

0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:45.359
<v Speaker 1>to say it, but favorite topic, I will not be

0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:48.159
<v Speaker 1>believing that just het, Yes, we're we went from g

0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:52.720
<v Speaker 1>PG today. Um. There's a couple of interesting things about

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.720
<v Speaker 1>masturbation in men, especially where I think we've talked about

0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:58.480
<v Speaker 1>it before, about how um, men think they need to

0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:01.520
<v Speaker 1>get through sex as quick as possible because they're like

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:03.639
<v Speaker 1>trained from a young age or conditioned to think like

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:06.000
<v Speaker 1>they need to masturbate, get it over with before you

0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and catches them and then like kind of hide it. Um.

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 1>And then also I was gonna say, I've I've always

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:13.280
<v Speaker 1>been I've obviously been masturbating for longer than I've been

0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 1>sexually active. Thank you very much for the round of

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 1>applause and um. And I think as a child, as

0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:23.320
<v Speaker 1>you begin doing that, like again, you're like you're being

0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:25.240
<v Speaker 1>quiet the whole time because like you're kind of hiding

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:26.720
<v Speaker 1>it from your parents and stuff like that. And so

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 1>then I think that then translates to your sexual life

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:31.800
<v Speaker 1>as an adult when you're active. I don't know, it's

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 1>just a thought. Yeah. No, I think that's a really

0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:38.280
<v Speaker 1>good point because yeah, when you are, I guess maybe

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 1>more so for men. I mean, when I masturbate, I

0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 1>make noise. Um, but I think kind of I do.

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to recording spaces entire segment. Sorry, um no,

0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:56.159
<v Speaker 1>this is let's see. I love how open Taylor. So

0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Taylor has her own podcast, Um, let's talk about it.

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:03.119
<v Speaker 1>And you're a mental health counselor, so this is all

0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:05.160
<v Speaker 1>that's why you're so knowledgeable and all this stuff because

0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you're so I mean, you study this stuff, so you're

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:11.520
<v Speaker 1>it's becomes so natural and natural for you, uh to

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 1>talk about all of this. And that's why I love

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 1>just you know, Taylor knows my entire life and my

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 1>entire life with my now boyfriend. Yeah. Yeah, I mean

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I think there uncomfortable topics we will talk about, especially

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:31.159
<v Speaker 1>like sexually. The sexual stuff is definitely uncomfortable, UM, But

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:33.360
<v Speaker 1>for me those are always like the most exciting topics

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 1>to talk about. This recent episode the podcast this week

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 1>was with a sex researcher UM who I had spended

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 1>his workshop and he's done like the largest study on

0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:45.639
<v Speaker 1>sexual fantasies in America UM and learned a lot of

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 1>great stuff from that. UM. But also just want to

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:51.920
<v Speaker 1>get to like the masturbation point, like being I agree

0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:55.439
<v Speaker 1>with you. I think that's a really valid possible explanation

0:25:55.760 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 1>for why maybe men's struggle with being vocal um during X.

0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:03.200
<v Speaker 1>But I also think in terms of like the masturbation

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:08.440
<v Speaker 1>piece that you know, women are kind of uh brought

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 1>up to think that if you are a girl that masturbates,

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>that you know that you're just lonely and you can't

0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 1>get a man, or that you do masturbate your like

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 1>it's total slut um, And I think it's hard to

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:24.639
<v Speaker 1>find that like in between and especially um, you know,

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 1>porn mainstream corn is very much bit towards men and

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 1>it's really teaching, um, you know, some not so realistic

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 1>ways of actually having sex. So there's adult filmmaker who

0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 1>I really like called air holesque um, who I highly

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 1>re comend. People. UM, it's more kind of like indie

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>porn and feminist porn, and sometimes like the feminist porn

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 1>can be like really out there where it's like that's

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 1>actually not what I'm looking for. UM. But Tumbler feel

0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 1>like a great place for people to like I had

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:02.919
<v Speaker 1>a great community, very very sex positive um where it

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:06.359
<v Speaker 1>was like real people and um even in terms of

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 1>like the text theme piece theme where like you've never

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:13.360
<v Speaker 1>sent pictures, you've never asked the pictures. Um. One thing

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:16.199
<v Speaker 1>that my current partner introduced me to that Like I

0:27:16.240 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>remember I was with Vanessa when it first happened, and

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what is this, Like this is so weird. UM.

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 1>But instead of like the photos of like yourself, you

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 1>like can literally send like gifts um and like different. Uh.

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 1>At least it was on Tumbler, and now there's like

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 1>new different sites coming up where you can kind of

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 1>find this content um where you can just literally like

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>play out a role play the effect and like use

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:43.119
<v Speaker 1>gifts to kind of like go through and explain it

0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 1>from each other. That's like really actually exciting and really hot.

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest with you, that doesn't sound very appealing

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 1>to me. It doesn't sound like it'll get it would

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:58.159
<v Speaker 1>get me like you know aroused. Yeah, yeah, yeah, some

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 1>gifts and then you can tell me. I don't know.

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I think I think I would get a little. I mean,

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 1>are the gifts of other women or men? No, it

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 1>just depends. I mean there's literally gifts of like all

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 1>kinds of things. Yeah, there's there's like videos and stuff too.

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's like literally like their faces aren't even in it.

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:25.639
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes just like really arty farcy and is like black

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:29.680
<v Speaker 1>and white and like really cute. Um. I mean there's

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>there's literally something for everyone out there. It's just a

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:34.880
<v Speaker 1>matter of kind of finding it. And of course, at

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:36.719
<v Speaker 1>first it might feel a little weird and it might

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>seem like I don't know if I'm into this or not.

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>But you won't know untilly try it. And I think

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 1>it's important to have an open mind because you never

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 1>know what will burn you on. I didn't think that

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>the gifts would or that the sex being like that would,

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's like one of my favorite things now. I

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>think it's important to also know and feel like you're

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 1>in a very safe relationship because there's been relationships that

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't feel like I want to sexually

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>explore with this person because I don't feel comfortable and safe. Um.

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 1>And the safety aspect is also like am I going

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>to be judged? And I, you know, like, how is

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 1>this person going to react if I try something out

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 1>that I'm not going to be really good at the

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 1>first time around or or um or whatever. So the

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:23.239
<v Speaker 1>safety aspect of it is definitely a big one. Mm

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 1>hmm totally. That just blows unto trust I feel like

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>too obviously. Yeah. Yeah, and just that they're not going

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>to go around and say it about you, you know,

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 1>which I think is something that you should just obviously

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I think Taylor has spoken to this in the past

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 1>as well as just take your time to do those

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 1>types of things right, Like obviously, until you fully give

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 1>yourself to someone, you should have trust for them. So yeah,

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>And I think also like in terms of the fear

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 1>of like what other people think, I mean, sometimes you

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 1>just really have to like I don't know if I

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 1>can spur in here, but that and like stick by

0:29:56.560 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 1>what you believe in and what you enjoy and UM

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:03.280
<v Speaker 1>really kind of like owning that in a way. But yeah,

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I think having a partner that you trust and that

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 1>you feel safe with is like the most important piece

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>of all of this, especially with doing long distance UM.

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Making sure that your guys, boundaries are very clear in

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 1>terms of what kind of a relationship you're in, if

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>you're in a monogonous relationship, if you're in a consensual

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 1>non monogonous relationship, if you're you know, it's gonna be polly,

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna be open, Like if dynamics change at

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 1>all when you do become long distance UM, because they

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 1>can bring up a lot of insecurities and a lot

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 1>of trust issues and a lot of jealousy that I

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 1>think people can struggle with when they're not seeing their

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>partner on that consistent basis. Yeah, that makes sense. Let

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 1>me ask you this, how much of a relationship should

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 1>be sex centric? I don't know how this became a

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 1>sex topic for like a sex podcast today, but I

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>guess the Yeah, I guess, And the reason I'm asking

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>is because how much of an emphasis should you put

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 1>on sex in your relationship long distance or um, not

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>like how not like how often should you be having it?

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 1>But how much of a of a of an impact

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>shuld I have on your relationship? I guess it's my

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>question how much of an effects or how much of

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 1>an emphasis, uh emphasis because the fact that I mean

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 1>obviously yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I think it really

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 1>depends on the couple. Um. If someone in the relationship

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>has a really high sex drive and the other person

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>has a lower sex drive, than there could be potential

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>difficulties there that they would really need to like hash out. Um.

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 1>If both people on the couple have a low sex drive,

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 1>then that might work for them. Um. If both people

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 1>have a high sex drive, then there's definitely gonna more

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 1>of an emphasis there. Um. But I think I think

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 1>you can certainly have a very fulfilling relationship with out

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 1>at a high emphasis on sex. Um. You know, when

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 1>you do look at long term monogamous relationships, um, passion

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>does go down within the first like two years or start.

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 1>It starts to go down after the first two years. UM.

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>So it's not like in most of long term relationships

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>there's a huge emphasis on sex anyway UM where it

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of becomes offensive a partnership. UM. But I think again,

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 1>to maintain your own sexual satisfaction, which we all have

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 1>some layer of UM that it is important to kind

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 1>of spice it up how where you can and um,

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily having more sex, but just having better quality sex. UM.

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Studies of filing that UM when couples actually were like

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 1>encouraged or attempted to increase them on times that they

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>have sex, but they actually felt less happy and reported

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 1>lower rates of satisfact than and felt like it was

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>something that they had to do, which is something I

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people struggle with. Whereas when couple

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>of kind of maintained about the average was having sex

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>once a week, was when people reported that higher level

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 1>of satisfaction. And that's any kind of sex act, whether

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 1>it's oral or masturvation type UM or like actual intercourse. UM.

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's it's really having an emphasis on

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 1>like the quality of effect that you're having and making

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 1>sure that both people feel satisfied with that. We also

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>had I think a sex expert that came on our

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>podcast a few episodes ago, and he was asking us,

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 1>how often do you think how many times we do

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>you think you should be intimate with your partner? And

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't know, like three times, He's

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 1>like every day. And intimacy does not mean having sexual intercourse.

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>It could be sitting on your partner's lap, giving them

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 1>a kiss on the cheek, hugging them for ten seconds

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 1>and that builds a stronger bond between both of you. Um,

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't the emphasis on just a sexual aspect

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>of it doesn't take that much of a priority if

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>you're being physically intimate with that person that you're dating. Yeah,

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 1>so everything that you do in your relationship is for flight. Um.

0:33:57.240 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 1>The Gottmans, who are like world around couple of researchers

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 1>UM estimated they're found in their in their research that

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 1>it was the six second kiss was um ideal for

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 1>the couples that really kind of succeeded, who they called

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Masters of Relationships to reported the high marital satisfaction of

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 1>having a six second kiss per day. Um. So after

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>this podcast, yeah, because I mean you think about it.

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Some days. You go days you know where your partner

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 1>need just have a peck or you know, you hold

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>hands or something. But there isn't that like intimacy there

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 1>of you know, that really kind of kiss that feels

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 1>like meaningful and that you actually feel connection afterwards. UM.

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 1>So I always joking my partners since for a long

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 1>distance that you know, we're missing out on all our

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:43.839
<v Speaker 1>kick second kisses. So when we do see each other,

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 1>we need to have like a thousand kisses. You and

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I I'm getting in plationship with each other, Vanessa. I mean,

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:56.479
<v Speaker 1>we do have a long distance relationship, but I can't

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 1>wait to see you, Tay. Thank you so much for

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 1>your wealth of knowledge. Um, and for we didn't think

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 1>this conversation was going to turn into a sext topic,

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:09.720
<v Speaker 1>but Dean's very happy. Um. Yeah. So you can listen

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>to all of tas podcasts um called Let's Talk About

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 1>It with Taylor Nolan and you can follow her on

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 1>her Instagram page. Ka Mocha t a y yeah mocha.

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 1>And thanks to we We appreciate you calling in. We

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>appreciate talking about everything that you talked about, and we'll

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 1>talk to you soon. Yeah, Dean, if you ever want

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 1>to talk more, let me know. I'll send you some

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>gifts thanks to see you later. Okay, we actually have

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:42.799
<v Speaker 1>one more guests that I want us to get more.

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 1>But before we do that, we're gonna take a quick break, okay,

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 1>and we are back and up next on the phone.

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 1>We had we had to do it, we weren't going

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 1>to do it, and I kind of jokingly teased the

0:35:55.800 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>idea of having Alex's former flame because you already have

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:03.799
<v Speaker 1>one as a co host in Vanessa. But Caroline Money,

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:07.879
<v Speaker 1>who was also on Bachelor in Paradise, Australia, She and

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 1>alex Um seemed to couple up basically almost instantaneously as

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 1>soon as they got there. But Caroline, are you there? Hi? Hi?

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:19.799
<v Speaker 1>How are you hi? Love? Hi? How's it going. It's

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 1>so great to have you on the on the air here?

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh nice? Kind of like I know, it's it's a

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:28.759
<v Speaker 1>pleasures on mine. I was just talking to Vanessa. She

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.720
<v Speaker 1>says that you guys are internet friends. We've been trying

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:34.239
<v Speaker 1>so hard to get together whenever I'm in Florida or

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Miami and or so we were somewhere else to at

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:39.239
<v Speaker 1>one point at the same time, and we didn't ever

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 1>meet up. And it makes me so sad. But I

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 1>should be in Florida, so I haven't made it up

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>there yet. But finally I know it's finally it feels

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:50.359
<v Speaker 1>like summer today. But you can never trust the mother

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 1>out here. But I'll come and visit you one Caroline.

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 1>You live in Florida, right, so especially from Florida to

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Canada is a big climate change climate anywhere to Montreal

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 1>climated on the summer beautiful. Yeah, well Caroline, okay, So

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 1>obviously as you will or will aware, Um, Alex was

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:11.879
<v Speaker 1>on our podcast last week. I don't guess. I don't

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 1>know if you're well aware of that, but no idea,

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:19.399
<v Speaker 1>but started Alex and I are really good friends, um,

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>and we just wanted to get you on the phone.

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:26.920
<v Speaker 1>We obviously would love to hear about your experience with

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Bachelor in Paradise, Australia, UM, and and just kind of

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 1>how all of that went. And you know, you know Alex,

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>he's like a very desensitized kind of calic calloust like

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:41.920
<v Speaker 1>logical individual like on emotional, unempathetic, and I can what's

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 1>funny is I can empathize with his lack of empathy,

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 1>if that makes any sense. And maybe that's why we

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 1>get along so well as because we kind of you know,

0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 1>are difficult in that same way. UM. So just do

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 1>you mind explaining to the listeners your side of the

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:58.319
<v Speaker 1>whole Bachelor in Paradise, Australia thing, because from what I saw,

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 1>it seemed like you guys like like you guys got

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>along really well, right, No, I actually hated hiving let Hers.

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Why well, I mean he comes up like I just

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 1>walked in and um we sat down and he's like,

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 1>don't trust the producers and I'm like okay, and I'm like,

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.719
<v Speaker 1>so like tell me, like that's the person of him

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 1>that I had met in person. And then it was

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:26.839
<v Speaker 1>just very like he's very cynical. And I was like,

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:30.880
<v Speaker 1>all right, well that's no, and I, um, I you know,

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:35.360
<v Speaker 1>went on. Did you say Alex the cynical No, Alex

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 1>never Yeah, I don't know how likes to be cynical

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:41.760
<v Speaker 1>as far as I think being on a television show.

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 1>He sells him the other way for it, like it's

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:50.400
<v Speaker 1>funny because in I'm honestly not really sure why I

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 1>had any interesting going on a television show like the

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Last Players, because he is quite cynical about it that

0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 1>she likes to say the social experiments, which his research.

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 1>He's always conducting social experiments, so um, yeah, he's not

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:13.320
<v Speaker 1>taking his turnd Ritchie on the date. Um. But the

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:17.920
<v Speaker 1>thing weird about Charity in Australia if you ask him

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:20.440
<v Speaker 1>on a date, if they say no, they have to

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:24.439
<v Speaker 1>go home. So I was kind of I was kind

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 1>of led into asking Richie. They were like, why don't

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:28.960
<v Speaker 1>you ask Ritchie on the date? And I'm like, okay,

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 1>sure or whatever. Of course Richie's got like something serious

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 1>going on or a serious I guess, or like to

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 1>be in it come ang time ten when you're there,

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:42.319
<v Speaker 1>but um, and yeah, so like I knew that my

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 1>date was Richie wasn't going anywhere. And then it's funny

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 1>because Alex thinks he came in like staves the day

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:49.840
<v Speaker 1>and like pulled me off of Ritchie and I was

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 1>just like, well, I knew the whole time that this

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 1>wasn't going anywhere. Actually told me, you know what, but

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 1>you don't see that meta day And then why did

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:01.359
<v Speaker 1>he tell you didn't cast? The last part? What did

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 1>he say? All right, there's so much here and trying

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>to figure out where to kind an out of these stories.

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:07.319
<v Speaker 1>But so when I asked to see on a date,

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Richie had said I'm actually seeing this girl cast, so

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:14.839
<v Speaker 1>he essentially said no to me taking him on a date.

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 1>So and then producers like, you can't say no, you

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 1>have to go, And I'm like, well, this makes me

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:24.960
<v Speaker 1>go great. I loved them so wanted here. Um, but

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 1>we went, and I knew it was just strictly like

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 1>a friend thing, and I just was happy to go

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:32.839
<v Speaker 1>on a date that you know, was like a good date.

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I hadn't had a good date and

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:37.880
<v Speaker 1>bachelor my experience with a bachelor, So even though I

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:40.839
<v Speaker 1>knew it wasn't going anywhere, I'm still really fun. And

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:44.319
<v Speaker 1>then I came home and you know, casting Richie got

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 1>back together and I started talking to Alex. So it's

0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 1>leader a quote unquote relationship flourished outside of the show.

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 1>Well started on the show. You know, this was on

0:40:57.840 --> 0:41:01.359
<v Speaker 1>the show. So it happened, um like when I got

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:06.480
<v Speaker 1>home to like Paradise Resort or whatever, back to the Bay,

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 1>and that's when it started to blossom and take off

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 1>and um and then you guys, let's I guess. So

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 1>so I was wrong in the beginning too, because then

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:16.399
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't instantaneous. It was a slow burn. But then

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:19.880
<v Speaker 1>once it started burning, the thing the thing was just

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 1>like I just didn't think. I honestly didn't know what

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I thought. Um, But the thing is really cool about

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Australia is that they take your mic backs at the

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 1>certain point in the night, you know, because like in

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 1>the US, it's like unless you're um in the shower

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 1>or sleeve your your mice. And so it's cool because

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:42.279
<v Speaker 1>in Australia you have all this time at night to

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 1>have completely, you know, three conversations without a camera in

0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 1>your face and without a mic pass on. And so

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:50.440
<v Speaker 1>that's where Else and I really got to know each

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:54.320
<v Speaker 1>other because I feel like that's when he's more comfortable

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:57.759
<v Speaker 1>when he knows be talking right well, especially as as

0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>two Americans on an Australian TV show. I talked to

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>him him a little bit about this last week. Is

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they didn't make it a point to

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:07.320
<v Speaker 1>make your guys love story as much a part of

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 1>the storyline as their Australian contestants, because just because the

0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Australian audience didn't recognize you guys quite as much, right, Yeah,

0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean I get it, they're not as invested in

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 1>us as they would be someone else that they know.

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.839
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think Alex and I our relationship was

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 1>that it took a while, like it really was a

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:31.440
<v Speaker 1>slow burn, Like we got a great edit where it happy.

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:33.680
<v Speaker 1>It seemed like it was all lovely debbes the whole time.

0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:36.680
<v Speaker 1>But it took a minute, just because I think I

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:38.839
<v Speaker 1>was a little hesitant, just because I did come all

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:42.480
<v Speaker 1>the way to you know, in cig to meet someone

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 1>who actually lived. Yeah, he owns a house in Port Laderdale,

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:49.919
<v Speaker 1>right next to years. It's just us. No, I think

0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:53.879
<v Speaker 1>I think he might mean Florida. Now you're probably say,

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:55.279
<v Speaker 1>in the same room as him right now, aren't you

0:42:56.480 --> 0:43:00.400
<v Speaker 1>house lost it on the way, So okay, And then

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:03.279
<v Speaker 1>so what happened after Paradise because I keep saying this,

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 1>but like, like you know, Alex is a man of

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 1>very few words, especially when it pertains to his emotions

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:11.920
<v Speaker 1>and his relationships. Obviously I'm not and I love that

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 1>about you, Caroline. Yeah, but that's the is so thank you, Finessa.

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:19.279
<v Speaker 1>I appreciated that. But there was like a huge thing

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:23.360
<v Speaker 1>with Alex and I just because I am who I

0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:26.839
<v Speaker 1>am and I don't hold back and whatever, like and

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 1>if I if I love something, I let it know.

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:32.560
<v Speaker 1>If I hate something, like I'm and I wear my

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:37.280
<v Speaker 1>heart on my sleeves. It is good, bad or ugly. Um,

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:41.840
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, so I don't even know what's the question is.

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 1>There's so much here. There's so much. We'll get into it.

0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 1>We got time. What's the question again, like what happened?

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:54.319
<v Speaker 1>What happened after Paradise because you guys left separately, but

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:57.279
<v Speaker 1>like on good terms or maybe go walk us through

0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:00.040
<v Speaker 1>the departure. And then because I know, like he he

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:01.759
<v Speaker 1>mentioned last week that he was out in Florida to

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:05.879
<v Speaker 1>visit you a couple of times as well. M yeah,

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 1>so we it was weird because, like I said, it

0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 1>was a slow burn. And then when we left Paradise,

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:16.800
<v Speaker 1>we decided to leave Paradise together, and but it was

0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 1>weird because like you you're leaving Paradise together, but then

0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 1>you're like when the cameras are off to came to

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 1>my hotel room and I was like, do you actually

0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 1>like me? Or like are you just like handling it

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 1>up for TV? And we like have this moment we

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 1>like looked at each other really weird and we were like, okay,

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 1>like I do kind of like you, like, let's just

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 1>keep this going to see what happens. And then I

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>think he came to seeing me like the next weekend

0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 1>in Florida, and um, you know, we had a good time.

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Came here and then he came to Boston and um,

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:50.920
<v Speaker 1>like met my family and just like a kid in

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:54.080
<v Speaker 1>my mottle hers whatever for my birthday for New Years,

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and then um, shortly there after we realized like he

0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>wasn't really the only anywhere and it was great because

0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:06.120
<v Speaker 1>I've been having really really bad anxiety. It's suffering with it,

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 1>um like all the time, and he finally, yeah, I

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:14.799
<v Speaker 1>know it's brutal, Like I couldn't figure out like what

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:18.319
<v Speaker 1>you know would really causing anything. And then it was

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:21.160
<v Speaker 1>weird because Alex sent me like I don't really know

0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 1>if I see it turning into relationships, and I like

0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:25.360
<v Speaker 1>had this immediate weight ut off my chest and I

0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god, like me neither, like he

0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's very out me. It doesn't so like

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:32.759
<v Speaker 1>rushing and cold. He's ready lunched me. He's just like

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't don't tuning in to relationship and I'm like out, dude.

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:38.360
<v Speaker 1>And then I was like, oh you know what, like

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:44.280
<v Speaker 1>me neither, and like that's okay, and um, we stay friends,

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:47.000
<v Speaker 1>like we still like talk to each other like every

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 1>other day or whatever. I don't know. He just Alex

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:51.000
<v Speaker 1>would just call me on his board on his day

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:53.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of drives home for work, like like leaving the

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:56.560
<v Speaker 1>office and going exosted every day like four or forty seven.

0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:58.439
<v Speaker 1>He just call me like from the cu right on time.

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Like but um, you know, we were like super super friendly.

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 1>But I think when the show started to happen, I

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 1>got upset with him just because he needs some comments

0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:12.120
<v Speaker 1>that really like didn't sit well with me, and it

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:14.319
<v Speaker 1>just it kind of tainted me in a bad light,

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 1>like it made it seem like I'm just this crazy

0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 1>overshare stage five plinger and I was like, study like

0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 1>that's not how it all is, Like it just he

0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:27.359
<v Speaker 1>made me feel stupid and he's like, you know, like

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:29.960
<v Speaker 1>our relationship is real, and you know, like how like

0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:32.359
<v Speaker 1>that was because like don't trust all that stuff, like

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:34.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't care what anybody else thinks in this. Yeah,

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 1>you make me seem like an idiot. And then I

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:38.359
<v Speaker 1>listened to the podcast the other day and it just

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I just felt like I'm just like this running joke

0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 1>between honestly between being you and well, I think that

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:49.600
<v Speaker 1>he underplays it a lot. He underplays what you guys

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:51.080
<v Speaker 1>had a lot, and that's just that's just kind of

0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 1>who he is his personality, So like that's not fair

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:56.040
<v Speaker 1>to do to me when like what we had was

0:46:56.120 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 1>dealt And it's like and then what he said about

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, Banessa and everything, and like I get it

0:47:00.480 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 1>because it's a weird sense of humor, but like it's

0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:05.719
<v Speaker 1>for me, and it's like, I know that you cared

0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:07.719
<v Speaker 1>about me, and you can't tell me one thing and

0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 1>then publicly say something else like that. That's just like

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:12.440
<v Speaker 1>that's not fair, and it's like it's not fair to

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:15.680
<v Speaker 1>make me feel like a joke when I felt like,

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:18.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, it wasn't you know, lasted forever, but like

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:21.240
<v Speaker 1>we had a bloss together, like and it's the weirdest

0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:24.600
<v Speaker 1>trusting person ever, but like I really know, like we

0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:27.800
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed each other's company. Like just because it wasn't forever,

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:30.440
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean it's like I didn't appreciate what it

0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:32.920
<v Speaker 1>was in my life. But I was like, it's not

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 1>fair for me to keep publicly making it seem like

0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I meant nothing to you and making me seem like

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:40.799
<v Speaker 1>a joke. Like that doesn't work for me. I think

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:43.840
<v Speaker 1>it's also the dynamic that Dean and and Alex have

0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 1>together like you bring out. I mean, you guys are

0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:50.400
<v Speaker 1>just like two together and I get it, like I

0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:56.319
<v Speaker 1>I can empathize, like I sure, like yeah, I think, well,

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I think we'll have a trying to say it is

0:47:57.920 --> 0:47:59.759
<v Speaker 1>just like we will text like to Alex and I

0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:01.400
<v Speaker 1>like to buck on each other, and I think that

0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of extends past sometimes. Oh yeah, I was a

0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:07.080
<v Speaker 1>part of the I was part of the you know,

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:09.160
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, what is happening? And I had

0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:12.600
<v Speaker 1>to do damage control. I messaged Caroline. I was texting

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:16.600
<v Speaker 1>him like, no, this is not true. I was loving

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:24.480
<v Speaker 1>all thea is going on. Yeah, it's not there for

0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 1>me when like he and like it's weird because I've

0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:29.360
<v Speaker 1>seen I've never talked to you before. I have this

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:32.000
<v Speaker 1>weird like insecurity, like when it comes to you because

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they're just weird like conversation that happens

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:37.879
<v Speaker 1>behind my back and I'm probably just overseeking it, like

0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and I know, and it even comes down to like

0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I've heard you guys think about how I was the

0:48:43.400 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 1>women tell all and like at the end of the day,

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:50.400
<v Speaker 1>if someone it's like if someone's kidding on one of

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:53.440
<v Speaker 1>your people, if someone like hurt your person, you're going

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:55.520
<v Speaker 1>to like have their back. And like the way that

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:59.160
<v Speaker 1>like I've been talked about in the sense that um

0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:01.440
<v Speaker 1>like I feel like, like, oh, Carolyn so dramatic and

0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 1>she's so thirsting, Like everyone's like, oh, it's Carolyne's auditions

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:08.000
<v Speaker 1>for Paradise. Like when that happens, I had a boyfriend.

0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I had no intention of going on Paradise, And the

0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:13.720
<v Speaker 1>thing that happened was is that I had the okay

0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:16.279
<v Speaker 1>from producers. I was told exactly what I was and

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:18.360
<v Speaker 1>was not allowed to say. But at the end of

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the day, like, already hurt my friend, and like if

0:49:21.480 --> 0:49:24.800
<v Speaker 1>someone hurts your person, you're gonna want to be like, hey, Anyboddy.

0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:27.160
<v Speaker 1>And that's what the Women Tell All on was for me.

0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, hey, I agree with all that. I don't

0:49:29.480 --> 0:49:32.920
<v Speaker 1>think I ever criticized you for the Women Tell All thing,

0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:35.560
<v Speaker 1>have I I just feel like there's this weird like

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:39.840
<v Speaker 1>subtext where I'm just like you No, I mean listen,

0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:42.359
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that would Dean sometimes too, And we've

0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:44.359
<v Speaker 1>known each other for a while, so I think it's

0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:46.520
<v Speaker 1>it's probably don't know you, and I don't really know

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:49.440
<v Speaker 1>your sense of humor in person, but yeah, do you

0:49:49.480 --> 0:49:51.759
<v Speaker 1>know do you can say something like sarcastic with the

0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 1>biggest smile on your on his face, and it's like,

0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:58.520
<v Speaker 1>what are you on? I can see I can see

0:49:58.520 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 1>how it could be confusing. I can, at least from

0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:05.879
<v Speaker 1>my perspective. I've never seen anyone necessarily criticize you for that,

0:50:06.000 --> 0:50:08.719
<v Speaker 1>and neither I've never seen anyone say anything about you.

0:50:08.960 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Then that's this point to um. It's it's certainly a

0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:14.279
<v Speaker 1>superpower to wear that emotional ability on your sleeve as

0:50:14.280 --> 0:50:16.560
<v Speaker 1>you do. And I actually I sometimes get down on

0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 1>myself because I don't have the ability to do that,

0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:20.920
<v Speaker 1>and I wish, I go back and forth on wishing

0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I would be able to, and kind of glad sometimes

0:50:23.280 --> 0:50:24.799
<v Speaker 1>that I don't, And I think that there is a

0:50:24.840 --> 0:50:26.440
<v Speaker 1>balance there somewhere. But at the end of the day,

0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:28.759
<v Speaker 1>I think, like, if you're able to, like you said,

0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you have your friends back, and you are able to

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:33.920
<v Speaker 1>be vulnerable and open up emotionally a lot more than others,

0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that's at the end of the day of

0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:38.200
<v Speaker 1>a superpower, in my opinion. So Caroline, I could relate

0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:41.759
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like when I did a fr with

0:50:41.880 --> 0:50:46.040
<v Speaker 1>nick Um, I was for being really I don't know

0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:50.200
<v Speaker 1>if Dean did you watch our a far I did not, anyway,

0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:53.640
<v Speaker 1>so we ended up being like very honest about the

0:50:53.680 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 1>struggles of being in a public relationship and blah bla

0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:58.319
<v Speaker 1>blah blah, and I got I got on because I

0:50:58.360 --> 0:51:00.680
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the girl that was like, oh, like A life's

0:51:00.719 --> 0:51:03.759
<v Speaker 1>perfect and I'm like like, it's not, like I don't

0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:09.280
<v Speaker 1>know why, yeah, Like it's exactly like rules and show happen.

0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:14.280
<v Speaker 1>It's not your life, like yeah, it's not realistic. Yeah,

0:51:14.320 --> 0:51:16.200
<v Speaker 1>So I totally get that in Another thing that I

0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:19.080
<v Speaker 1>want to say is when you feel like because I remember,

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:21.200
<v Speaker 1>like you were, we were messaging each other back and

0:51:21.239 --> 0:51:23.759
<v Speaker 1>forth and you were saying things that people were saying

0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:27.479
<v Speaker 1>or whatever or whatever. And when it's about you, you

0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:30.080
<v Speaker 1>know all the b s I people are saying about

0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:33.359
<v Speaker 1>you because it's about you. But when it's about someone else,

0:51:33.440 --> 0:51:36.000
<v Speaker 1>like I didn't and then Alex is the one who

0:51:36.080 --> 0:51:39.759
<v Speaker 1>I have I have lived ignorantly lives for all this time,

0:51:39.920 --> 0:51:42.840
<v Speaker 1>not going what the Reddit one, and then Alex that

0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:48.840
<v Speaker 1>mother Robert, like can you be going to come on

0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:52.200
<v Speaker 1>in this episode and get rid of that like this,

0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:56.480
<v Speaker 1>get rid get rid of what Alex would like read

0:51:56.520 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 1>read it out loud to me and I was like,

0:51:59.040 --> 0:52:02.959
<v Speaker 1>are you serious? And he' he messaged me saying never

0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:05.120
<v Speaker 1>go on rend it. Once I sent him that message,

0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:08.040
<v Speaker 1>he is. So he's the only reason I know what

0:52:08.160 --> 0:52:11.600
<v Speaker 1>breddit is. I have literally felt ignorantly list this whole time,

0:52:11.960 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 1>not knowing that the me out there. But yeah, that's

0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the sting. People are going to hit you whether you

0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:22.520
<v Speaker 1>do which I don't know, they're gonna get regardless, but

0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:28.320
<v Speaker 1>um and you like everyone in general. Yeah oh yeah,

0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:34.920
<v Speaker 1>yeah Caroline, let me never find that. That's definitely thanks,

0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:38.680
<v Speaker 1>thank you for clarifying that. Um yeah, well okay, so

0:52:38.680 --> 0:52:41.279
<v Speaker 1>what's next to you in Caroline, because we are we

0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:45.120
<v Speaker 1>going to see you on Paradise this year in America? No, No,

0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:49.480
<v Speaker 1>that like the one um as most is Alex. He's

0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:52.000
<v Speaker 1>such paying my ass, Like you know, I love the

0:52:52.000 --> 0:52:55.279
<v Speaker 1>guys great, he's a great person and he was the

0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:59.000
<v Speaker 1>perfect um like final Chapter and his whole Bachelor. Yeah.

0:52:59.480 --> 0:53:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I did my shows like I did three shows in

0:53:02.600 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 1>a little in about a year, like yeah, but he

0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:11.000
<v Speaker 1>was you know, the first two. I felt really defeated

0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:13.560
<v Speaker 1>because you have this idea of what the show Kennedy

0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:18.719
<v Speaker 1>when you've gone, and it's just so far from like, um,

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:21.279
<v Speaker 1>you know what you what you're expected, and so like

0:53:21.320 --> 0:53:25.319
<v Speaker 1>the first two were pure garbage and um, leaving you know,

0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Paradise Australia with Alex and having a real relationship come about,

0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:32.880
<v Speaker 1>even though the relationship didn't work out, Like, I just

0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:34.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like I got what I wanted out of this

0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:39.719
<v Speaker 1>and m hm, let's just close all of that. I

0:53:39.760 --> 0:53:42.879
<v Speaker 1>will say, having having known and met just a lot

0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:45.799
<v Speaker 1>of bachelor guys over the past two years, despite all

0:53:45.800 --> 0:53:48.400
<v Speaker 1>of his shortcomings which are very very obvious, Alex is

0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:53.239
<v Speaker 1>definitely one of the best. Yeah, and like and I

0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:56.000
<v Speaker 1>know that, but I just had to chew them out

0:53:56.000 --> 0:53:59.640
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Absolutely. And I will say, despite the

0:53:59.680 --> 0:54:01.919
<v Speaker 1>fact that he underplays a lot of what you guys

0:54:02.000 --> 0:54:03.719
<v Speaker 1>might have had or still have or whatever it is,

0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:05.960
<v Speaker 1>he did speak very highly of you in private to

0:54:05.960 --> 0:54:09.319
<v Speaker 1>me multiple, many, many, many many times. Because obviously, as

0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:11.759
<v Speaker 1>you know he he kind of filters himself a little

0:54:11.760 --> 0:54:14.840
<v Speaker 1>bit when um, I guess people are listening or cameras

0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:16.560
<v Speaker 1>around all that kind of stuff, But in private he's

0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:19.200
<v Speaker 1>he's willing to and able to open up. Um, and

0:54:19.239 --> 0:54:20.600
<v Speaker 1>so I just wanted to let you know that he

0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:27.040
<v Speaker 1>has spoken very highly of you many many times. Yeah,

0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:28.600
<v Speaker 1>we don't want to shoke as you go too much.

0:54:28.880 --> 0:54:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Um and then so so beyond Batchelor, then is there

0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:34.640
<v Speaker 1>anything else that's next for you? And then um, I

0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:38.759
<v Speaker 1>guess moving forward? Um well, I mean I just kind

0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:40.920
<v Speaker 1>of make some money to do some real estate stuff.

0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:44.279
<v Speaker 1>And um, everyone keeps asking only saying questions over and over,

0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:47.040
<v Speaker 1>so I might get him from the bandwagon. And I'm

0:54:47.040 --> 0:54:50.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to put together a little blog or something so

0:54:50.320 --> 0:54:52.480
<v Speaker 1>people can stop asking me where to go in Port

0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:55.959
<v Speaker 1>Lauderdale for their bachelor party, so like go speak about

0:54:56.960 --> 0:54:59.799
<v Speaker 1>love it, but bachelor party Like that's kind of more

0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:02.160
<v Speaker 1>like a planning type stuff though, isn't it. But the

0:55:02.400 --> 0:55:05.080
<v Speaker 1>people I just that's the number one question I get

0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:07.160
<v Speaker 1>asked was like, I'm saying it for a Lauderdale where

0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:10.680
<v Speaker 1>do I go for pretty? And I can't tell everyone

0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:13.640
<v Speaker 1>everything always so like but it's like that, and then

0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:16.560
<v Speaker 1>it's like other stupid questions like I mean, they're totally

0:55:16.640 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 1>valid questions over and over. You want to have like

0:55:20.040 --> 0:55:21.279
<v Speaker 1>you you want to be able to provide like a

0:55:21.280 --> 0:55:23.320
<v Speaker 1>one sheet for someone that might be visiting something somewhere

0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:25.960
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, and just stuff like that and just kind

0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:29.040
<v Speaker 1>of gets to know the area and I love stuff.

0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Just share all that with everybody, and yeah, we're so similar.

0:55:32.880 --> 0:55:34.960
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm doing from Montreal to wait, I'm doing

0:55:35.000 --> 0:55:36.920
<v Speaker 1>that for l A right now. Oh my god, you

0:55:36.920 --> 0:55:41.160
<v Speaker 1>guys with your van and exactly. Um, well, great, we'll

0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:43.000
<v Speaker 1>be on the lookout for that. Caroline. Thank you so

0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:45.040
<v Speaker 1>much for taking the time to call in and share

0:55:45.160 --> 0:55:49.080
<v Speaker 1>all of that. Uh, we'll be sure to follow along

0:55:49.120 --> 0:55:51.440
<v Speaker 1>on your social will be on the lookout for the

0:55:51.440 --> 0:55:54.440
<v Speaker 1>blog hopefully dropping soon. And if if anyone's listening to this,

0:55:54.480 --> 0:55:58.920
<v Speaker 1>if anyone's looking at buying you sell residentially residential real

0:55:59.040 --> 0:56:01.440
<v Speaker 1>estate and for or it anywhere in Florida. If anyone's

0:56:01.440 --> 0:56:04.840
<v Speaker 1>looking for a home in Florida, hit up Caroline, um

0:56:04.920 --> 0:56:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and she'll give you a great rate. She'll get you,

0:56:06.680 --> 0:56:09.480
<v Speaker 1>she'll help your clothes on those uh, those those deals

0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:14.000
<v Speaker 1>that you want. So Caroline, thank you again. Great, come on,

0:56:14.440 --> 0:56:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm not the best. I appreciate the sarcasm.

0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go thank you so much. This whole podcast

0:56:29.120 --> 0:56:31.239
<v Speaker 1>has just gone. It's escalated. We've got a lot of

0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:34.600
<v Speaker 1>so much bleeping in this episode, lots of F bombs,

0:56:34.640 --> 0:56:37.279
<v Speaker 1>lots of talk of masturbating. Some people wonder why this

0:56:37.320 --> 0:56:40.040
<v Speaker 1>show is late today because we've been bleeping for hours?

0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Can we just can we please just have one unbleeped

0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:45.680
<v Speaker 1>show in our rated movies, you're allowed one f work

0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:50.560
<v Speaker 1>in a whole year of podcasting, can have one episode

0:56:50.920 --> 0:56:54.279
<v Speaker 1>that allows no bleeping. I don't know what the I

0:56:54.400 --> 0:56:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio policy is on that. I guess PG thirteen

0:56:56.920 --> 0:56:59.279
<v Speaker 1>not a rated I said, I said, ah, P three

0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:03.600
<v Speaker 1>with what F'm yeah, there's more than just F bombs, masturbation.

0:57:04.200 --> 0:57:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Masturbation We're okay with it's a technical term. Yeah, okay, Um,

0:57:08.760 --> 0:57:12.200
<v Speaker 1>did you shoot this email from ari El Vanessa? She says,

0:57:12.239 --> 0:57:15.160
<v Speaker 1>your boyfriend Josh is exactly who the psyche predicted for

0:57:15.200 --> 0:57:18.240
<v Speaker 1>you a year ago on one of the podcasts. I know.

0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I want to if we can, can we actually go

0:57:20.840 --> 0:57:24.200
<v Speaker 1>back to that episode? We should? Yeah? She said, the

0:57:24.240 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 1>best partner for you is someone not in the entertainment business,

0:57:26.880 --> 0:57:29.600
<v Speaker 1>someone who probably never watches reality TV. She said, you

0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:31.960
<v Speaker 1>need someone from outside that world, someone who would ground

0:57:31.960 --> 0:57:33.880
<v Speaker 1>you and support you instead of competing with you and

0:57:33.960 --> 0:57:40.680
<v Speaker 1>looks like you found him Ariel. It's so true when

0:57:40.720 --> 0:57:43.280
<v Speaker 1>I and I want to talk to Taylor about this

0:57:43.280 --> 0:57:47.160
<v Speaker 1>because we're both dating men who are not in the spotlight,

0:57:47.400 --> 0:57:51.840
<v Speaker 1>who are not familiar with the Bachelor franchise. And I

0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:53.960
<v Speaker 1>thought it was gonna be hard because my life is

0:57:54.040 --> 0:57:58.400
<v Speaker 1>very public. Um. But once you start learning what the

0:57:58.440 --> 0:58:01.040
<v Speaker 1>boundaries are, which are able to talk about what they're

0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:04.000
<v Speaker 1>comfortable with you doing and not doing or not even

0:58:04.040 --> 0:58:06.680
<v Speaker 1>not doing, just like you know, let them in the loop.

0:58:07.160 --> 0:58:11.080
<v Speaker 1>In the loop, um, it's It's makes for a really

0:58:11.080 --> 0:58:17.040
<v Speaker 1>healthy relationship. So I'm really, really really happy. Good Mega

0:58:17.080 --> 0:58:20.000
<v Speaker 1>is the question of you, Dean, do you feel like

0:58:20.080 --> 0:58:22.200
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to commit or date because you were

0:58:22.280 --> 0:58:24.800
<v Speaker 1>hurt so much from his from your last few breakups?

0:58:24.840 --> 0:58:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like if you go all in you're

0:58:26.800 --> 0:58:30.520
<v Speaker 1>just going to get hurt again? Interesting that is from Meg.

0:58:30.640 --> 0:58:32.280
<v Speaker 1>It's funny, Well, I could give a long answer to

0:58:32.320 --> 0:58:34.680
<v Speaker 1>have a long answer abbreviated answer. I think I think

0:58:34.680 --> 0:58:38.920
<v Speaker 1>a long throw answer is what Meg deserves. The The

0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:42.360
<v Speaker 1>short long answer is I don't really know exactly why,

0:58:42.480 --> 0:58:44.320
<v Speaker 1>but I was going to it's funny because I had

0:58:44.320 --> 0:58:47.160
<v Speaker 1>a very very similar conversation about this just yesterday or

0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:49.560
<v Speaker 1>two days ago, and it actually goes back to my

0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:52.840
<v Speaker 1>time on The Bachelor atte well, on my first one

0:58:52.840 --> 0:58:54.080
<v Speaker 1>on one, I think I might have talked about this

0:58:54.120 --> 0:58:56.520
<v Speaker 1>in my podt on this podcast at some point, and

0:58:56.760 --> 0:58:59.320
<v Speaker 1>they were talking about we were talking about the loss

0:58:59.320 --> 0:59:02.040
<v Speaker 1>of my mother before we're going into the nighttime portion

0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:04.640
<v Speaker 1>of my one on one, and the producer made a

0:59:04.640 --> 0:59:07.120
<v Speaker 1>comment of saying, if you could go back and erase

0:59:07.160 --> 0:59:09.240
<v Speaker 1>your memory of your mom, would you do that knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that she's not in your life anymore? And the obviously

0:59:10.800 --> 0:59:12.520
<v Speaker 1>answer is no, of course I would never do that.

0:59:12.720 --> 0:59:15.360
<v Speaker 1>And so then the question holds true now is would

0:59:15.360 --> 0:59:19.680
<v Speaker 1>you would you hold yourself back in a relationship knowing

0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:22.120
<v Speaker 1>that eventually it might end? When if it ends, you'll

0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:24.400
<v Speaker 1>know that you'll still have positive memories from that relationship,

0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:27.880
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Con the questions, they're connected,

0:59:28.360 --> 0:59:31.160
<v Speaker 1>um obviously different situations, but still connected in that sense.

0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:33.360
<v Speaker 1>And so that's that's how I have to reflect back

0:59:33.360 --> 0:59:35.640
<v Speaker 1>on myself and be like, Okay, well, if I'm going

0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:38.720
<v Speaker 1>to dive in fully into a relationship that ultimately ends

0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:40.720
<v Speaker 1>up not working out. Would I still look back on

0:59:40.760 --> 0:59:43.240
<v Speaker 1>that relationship with regret, knowing that I still had positive

0:59:43.280 --> 0:59:46.760
<v Speaker 1>memories and positive things to look back on, or would

0:59:46.760 --> 0:59:49.240
<v Speaker 1>I regret diving fully? And I don't. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I still haven't really answered that question. I think that

0:59:51.480 --> 0:59:55.040
<v Speaker 1>my unwillingness to get into a relationship now stems from

0:59:55.080 --> 0:59:57.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of different reasons. I don't know exactly which

0:59:57.920 --> 1:00:01.800
<v Speaker 1>one to to specifically point out, um, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the fear of loss is certainly one

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Um, even though I know it's like, if

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<v Speaker 1>I do everything to the best of my ability consistently

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<v Speaker 1>and constantly, then I don't really foresee that happening. But

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<v Speaker 1>I guess obviously there's always extenuating circumstances. So UM to

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<v Speaker 1>the answer the question succinctly, yes, But that's just one

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<v Speaker 1>reason of many reasons. And this is a tough one

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<v Speaker 1>from anonymous. You'd like to get your opinion on both

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<v Speaker 1>of you. I've been dating my boyfriend for about seven

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<v Speaker 1>months now. We're both twenty seven. Things are going well.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the happiest I've ever been. However, a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weekends ago, we visited some of his friends and they

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<v Speaker 1>all decided to get some cocaine. I told my boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>may be nervous. He told me it wasn't a big deal. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the moment he snorted and I felt so uneasy I fainted. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>I fainted. We talked about it the next day. He

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<v Speaker 1>was very understanding. I figured it wouldn't come up again

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<v Speaker 1>because those friends will live in our city. But the

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<v Speaker 1>very next weekend we were at a party and it

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<v Speaker 1>came up again. I know that he likes it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be a controlling girlfriend. I'd want his

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<v Speaker 1>friends to judge me for not doing it. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you guys think? Am I making a bigger deal out

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<v Speaker 1>of this than it is? There's a tough question. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I have the answers for these, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what i'd say to this one. Go ahead, Vanessa,

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<v Speaker 1>your first sorry. I know that was like a constipation sound.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that. Um. I don't think you need

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<v Speaker 1>to a worry about whether or not his friends think

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<v Speaker 1>that you're uh, whether or not his friends are judging you.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not into doing drugs, you're not into doing drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never done any drugs in my life. And I

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<v Speaker 1>once stated someone who was, and it was a very

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<v Speaker 1>difficult conversation for me to have because I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to judge them, you know, if they were doing it recreationally,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't want them to feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>judging them. I just don't want it done around me. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So that person eventually ended up not doing it anymore. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what they're doing now, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're making it a bigger deal. Then

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not comfortable with something that, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>drug related, right, If you're not comfortable with dating someone

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<v Speaker 1>who is recreationally doing drugs, then I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>I personally wouldn't be able to handle that, especially at

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she's what I think a personal preface seven

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<v Speaker 1>months now. I mean, I've dated girls who have, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really smoke weed. I mean I do, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a couple very different no, I know, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying I maybe smoke a couple of times a year.

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<v Speaker 1>I've dated girls who would smoke it consistently and constantly,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know it's like a much much different situation.

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<v Speaker 1>But even that, I was kind of like, well, like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of weird. I don't know if I really

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<v Speaker 1>like that very much. As far as the cocaine situation goes,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like he's just surrounding himself with the wrong people,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if he likes it as much

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<v Speaker 1>as he likes being with his friends. And I've been

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<v Speaker 1>in that situation before too, was like, I've how honest,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna get on this podcast. I've never personally,

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever personally purchased or or sought the drug out before,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've done it socially with my friends solely because, yes, solely,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're like, hey, we're doing this. I'm like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I'll do it with you guys a few times,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Um. And so I would say from the

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<v Speaker 1>email or if she has an issue with that, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>From what it sounds like, it sounds like it's not

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<v Speaker 1>an issue with the boyfriend. It sounds like it's the

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<v Speaker 1>people that he's are surrounding himself with. And I've even

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<v Speaker 1>taken the steps, but that's an issue too, surely. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this is for me, was years ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've taken the steps to remove those people that are

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<v Speaker 1>still doing it to this day to remove them out

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<v Speaker 1>of my life. Um, it's just like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that she shouldn't overstep the boundaries by saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you should stop doing this. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a balance of being like, hey, I have your

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<v Speaker 1>best interests in mind, and I think that you should

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<v Speaker 1>go the way of maybe facing these people out of

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<v Speaker 1>your life. So the issue is if she tells him

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<v Speaker 1>not to do it, then he won't do it in

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<v Speaker 1>front of her, but we'll do it behind her back.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're dating someone that is doing things well. The

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<v Speaker 1>second he starts doing things someone's back is when that's

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<v Speaker 1>when you know the relationship is going to go down

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<v Speaker 1>the dumper. Right, So what I'm saying is like to

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<v Speaker 1>not judge him because hey, if someone wants to do

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<v Speaker 1>something recreationally or whatever the case is, like, that's too

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<v Speaker 1>that's up to them to the side. But if you're

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<v Speaker 1>someone who doesn't enjoy that or doesn't enjoy being around it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard. It's it's hard to mesh two different types

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<v Speaker 1>of lifestyles because that's what that's what it is in

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<v Speaker 1>the end. Right here, whose responsibility does it fall on?

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<v Speaker 1>Does it fall on him to stop it or does

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<v Speaker 1>it fall on herd to be accepting of the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of him doing it. I mean, m Mark, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>can already imagine how it's going to go when she

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<v Speaker 1>brings it up to him. If she says, like, so,

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<v Speaker 1>is this something going to be doing? Is this something

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<v Speaker 1>that's important to you, he'd be like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt like doing it, So I did it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like why you a'm me like this? Like I can

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<v Speaker 1>already see him getting really like defensive like that when

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<v Speaker 1>when she comes out. So I think I try to

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<v Speaker 1>generalize these things as much as I can, whether it's drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's porn, video games. We all have our deal

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<v Speaker 1>breakers in a relationship and what we can and can't handle.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think she needs to figure out is this

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<v Speaker 1>a deal breaker for her or not. The fact that

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<v Speaker 1>she wrote to a podcast about it tells me that

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<v Speaker 1>I think it may be it's bothering her more than

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<v Speaker 1>even maybe she realizes it is, because it took she

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<v Speaker 1>took the time to do this, So I think that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the conversation is gonna stink, But I do

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe you start to pull back a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>because this may not be the guy for you, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe feel it out a little bit longer. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I still think it's a friend thing. Like there's people

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<v Speaker 1>that he's around consistently on weekends, whether they're from out

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<v Speaker 1>of town or whether it's the friends that he's within

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<v Speaker 1>this town that they live in now that has a huge,

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<v Speaker 1>huge influence and effect on them before you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. Okay, but do you want to be with

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<v Speaker 1>some You've been that guy before in your early twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>he's in his late twenties. Do you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>with someone who gets easily influenced by his social surroundings.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another question to ask yourself. Um, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's really to her to make that decision. We

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<v Speaker 1>all are to some degree. So many I know so

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<v Speaker 1>many women who smoke only when they're with a certain

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<v Speaker 1>group of friends and never any other time. Maybe what

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<v Speaker 1>if she said to him, look, I'm really not comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>with this, So I need you to know that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I need you to keep that in mind going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>And he keeps doing it, that tells you a lot

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<v Speaker 1>that's the case. But what if he says what if

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<v Speaker 1>he comes back with saying, I look, I see, I

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<v Speaker 1>understand that it means a lot to you, and I

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<v Speaker 1>understand it's important to you, but I'm going to keep

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. Then then she just I guess essentially at

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<v Speaker 1>that point, then then she has all the information she

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<v Speaker 1>needs to either stay or leave. Right exactly. So there,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I don't know who didn't really help her there.

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<v Speaker 1>I we don't really give answers, but sometimes talking it

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<v Speaker 1>out and hearing us talk it out, she thinks of

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<v Speaker 1>different angles and maybe maybe that helps her in something.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make one definitive stance. Just give me a

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<v Speaker 1>second to think about it, say drop his ass. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say drop it just because that's how I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very black and white. We've had this convert station before.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard for me to like, you know, be in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle. So I'm someone who is either like you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing something or you're not doing something, and especially like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like it's I don't know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>something i'd be comfortable with because I guess I just

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<v Speaker 1>put it all back, bring it all back to me, right.

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<v Speaker 1>As someone who is very willing to do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things and says yes, to a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>I would hate if me doing the things that I

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<v Speaker 1>do would change would have someone's would change someone's opinion

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<v Speaker 1>of me because of just that, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>my open mindedness and my I guess willing to do

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<v Speaker 1>those things is one of my favorite things about me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would never ask someone to like if they

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<v Speaker 1>hated it, to stay with me because of it or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that. Like, I don't think it would ever

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<v Speaker 1>be a problem to that extent. But I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to put myself in his shoes where I like. I

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<v Speaker 1>like to do things. I like to try new things.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes those things aren't the best things, but sometimes they're

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<v Speaker 1>a good things. You need to be You need to

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<v Speaker 1>be with someone who just as flexible as you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you and I dating would be a disaster, right will.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if it's just long to realize that he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have been shipping you too for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's too bad. Um, Also, seven months into a relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy is gonna feel like you're trying to change

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<v Speaker 1>him already, and that's gonna be He's gonna bristle. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. If it's seven months into a relationship

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<v Speaker 1>and she's experiencing this for the first time with him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not a trend. It's an outlier, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. And so it's certainly is she

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<v Speaker 1>the first time? Definitely it was an outlier. Then that

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<v Speaker 1>was her bothering her. Now I think it's just I

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<v Speaker 1>think the two weekends in her ow thing is just

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things where it's like, you're gonna look

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<v Speaker 1>back on it seven months from now and be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>the time that you're an idiot, and he's gonna be like, yeah, maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he might do it again in seven months.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, as long as he's not going out buying

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<v Speaker 1>it himself, doing it by himself every week, like every weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when I really think problem starts to form um.

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<v Speaker 1>Social habits I don't think are necessarily the worst things

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<v Speaker 1>in this So then you've got to consider how much

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<v Speaker 1>do you like this guy, how much do you see

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<v Speaker 1>your future with this guy? How much potential does this

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<v Speaker 1>relationship has have, because that tells you how much you

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<v Speaker 1>need to kind of tolerate and see what we can

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<v Speaker 1>get through, right, and also maybe ask yourself, do I

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<v Speaker 1>want the potential father of my children to be someone

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<v Speaker 1>that does this type of stuff. And if the answer

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<v Speaker 1>is no, then obviously get rid of him. And if

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<v Speaker 1>the answer is well, maybe then feel it out a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Maybe if the dad did that when he

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty seven and now he's forty and he's the

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<v Speaker 1>head of a CEO of some major company. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people have that stuff in their path,

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<v Speaker 1>myself included, and it might be my future. Who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just up for whatever, just what I was up

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<v Speaker 1>for a party. We're good. That should do it for today.

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<v Speaker 1>What a great episode I have to get. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about masturbating, we said, we said at least times on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. We talked about drug use recreationally. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about That's about it. That's all we talked about today. Anyways.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for listening to this week's episode

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<v Speaker 1>of How Up I Suck at Dating. We hope that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are still fans of us as individuals despite

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<v Speaker 1>everything we shared today. Um, the date is June tenth.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I felt like sharing that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought you guys wanted to know in case

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<v Speaker 1>you're filling out some legal paperwork today. Big thank you

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<v Speaker 1>to my great friend Alex B for calling back in

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<v Speaker 1>and clearing the air um and for apologizing. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, it definitely was out a line of

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<v Speaker 1>him to say the things that he said last week,

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<v Speaker 1>but joking or not, you know, so I'm glad he

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<v Speaker 1>was able to clear the air. Alex, and I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>the apology. I'm glad that that didn't drive a wedge

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<v Speaker 1>between you and Josh. I don't think that it ever would.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, didn't like as obviously telling you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable with each other. Big thank you to your friend Taylor.

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor for coming on and we were not gonna I

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<v Speaker 1>called her and this was masturbation and sextying and all

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't part of the conversation, but I'm glad it

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<v Speaker 1>was today. Yeah, supposed to be about the long d's

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<v Speaker 1>and then we talked. Well I think that's probably what

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<v Speaker 1>said it off for her, honestly, probably. And then of course,

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<v Speaker 1>big thank you to Caroline Leney for calling in and

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<v Speaker 1>sharing her side of the batchel Or in Paradise, Australia

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<v Speaker 1>story with Alex. It sounds like they're in a good spot.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like they're both being adults about everything. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're both in Port Lauderdale right now, so we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. But um, anything else, Vanessa, No, that is it, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to be back. I missed you guys the

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<v Speaker 1>last two episodes. Yeah, you took a nice little hiatus there.

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<v Speaker 1>We missed you as well. I did. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about you while i was driving back to much

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<v Speaker 1>Off from Maine, and I'm like, this is what Dean

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<v Speaker 1>probably feels like, so liberating being in a like in

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<v Speaker 1>your van and driving around and it's such like a

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<v Speaker 1>nice feeling. I actually wanted to talk to you more

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<v Speaker 1>about the main journey that you just took, but I'll

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<v Speaker 1>call you later and talk to you about that off. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but thank you so much for being a listener of

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast. We love you and we appreciate you, and

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<v Speaker 1>we hope that if anything else, like you can maybe

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<v Speaker 1>gain some knowledge, some information, some insight to these types

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<v Speaker 1>of issues that all of us have on a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 1>Big thank you to Mark and Easton for being great

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<v Speaker 1>producers and all they're bleeping that they're doing in this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks guys. Be sure to tune in next week, um

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<v Speaker 1>where maybe we might suck a little bit less. Follow

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