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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton with America now joined the conversation called Buck

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Speaker 1: Freedom Hunt. Great to have you. Freestyle Friday is upon us,

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Speaker 1: intelligence briefing at the president. The FBI and media newsrooms

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Speaker 1: are all over this. It may have been a Hillary

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Speaker 1: Clinton information operation in conjunction with the Russians and then

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Speaker 1: and assist from the intelligence community that's pretty intense stuff.

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Speaker 1: That is uh, that's got a wow factor to it.

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Speaker 1: Um So the media has had a tough week with that,

432
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Speaker 1: and but now you have another possible shoe to drop

433
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Speaker 1: or The next major media battlefield is Mueller and this

434
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Speaker 1: is up on Fox News, Mueller facing new Republican pressure

435
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Speaker 1: to resign in the Russia probe. Now, let me say

436
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Speaker 1: that if in fact Mueller did resign or was asked

437
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: to resign, if he was fired, the press would go

438
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Speaker 1: completely ballistic they I mean it would. You would see

439
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Speaker 1: multi millionaire news anchors cry on TV more than they

440
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Speaker 1: currently do for no apparent reason. I mean, you would

441
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Speaker 1: see a lot of stuff happening. But I have to

442
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Speaker 1: say that if you if you give it a fair hearing,

443
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Speaker 1: if you read the evidence for a Mueller conflict of

444
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Speaker 1: interest in this whole situation, it's very real. And I

445
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Speaker 1: know it's you know, this is playing with some some

446
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Speaker 1: facile material. This is not stuff that you could just

447
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Speaker 1: assume to assume, you could go through with and there

448
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be major ramifications. But I do think, I do

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Speaker 1: think that there is a very real possibility that this

450
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: is gonna get some this there's there's gonna be more

451
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Speaker 1: put into this now than there was in the past,

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Speaker 1: the notion of Mueller with his special Counsel probe looking

453
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Speaker 1: into all this different stuff. Maybe the probe continues, but

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Speaker 1: Mueller is not allowed to run it. I don't know,

455
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Speaker 1: and you know, I should know. That may not be

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Speaker 1: that much better for those of us who are worried

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Speaker 1: about politicization, because all the people that Mueller has brought on,

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Speaker 1: from what we've seen, their democrats. They say, oh no,

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Speaker 1: the prosecutors are lawyers, they're Democrats, and they want to

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Speaker 1: make names for themselves. There's a there's enormous incentive for

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Speaker 1: some of these individuals, for some of these people who

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Speaker 1: are tied into Muller investigation to get get a scalp

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Speaker 1: here to put points up on the board. So I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure. I mean, for those of us who are

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Speaker 1: hoping that nothing really like again, if if they you know,

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Speaker 1: if Manifork gets jammed up, Manifhork it's jammed up. He

467
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Speaker 1: may not be the only one, but that's the one

468
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Speaker 1: that I've always thought is the most likely. I think

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Speaker 1: that's pretty conventional wisdom. But you know, for those of

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Speaker 1: us who think that this is unfair, and that the

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Speaker 1: way this is falling on the Trump administration and it's

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Speaker 1: meant to slow them down all the problems it's causing.

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Speaker 1: And it's not right just getting rid of Mueller if

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Speaker 1: unless it's shut down the whole probe, which is as

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Speaker 1: as another way the discussion could go. But unless it's

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Speaker 1: shut down the whole probe, I gotta say, you're just

477
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: gonna have another pro You're gonna have a pro Hillary

478
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Speaker 1: partisan who takes it, takes over and is able to

479
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Speaker 1: push the push the direction of the investigation as he

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Speaker 1: or she sees fit. One another thing with this the possibility.

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Speaker 1: Now it's the main story on Fox News right now,

482
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Speaker 1: so you're gonna see more talk about this. And I

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Speaker 1: think there's a very legitimate look, comey, the comy is

484
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Speaker 1: all involved in this comy and Mueller a too tight.

485
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Speaker 1: I mean, there are real conflicts of interest here. No, no,

486
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Speaker 1: But it's just a question of are the conflicts of

487
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Speaker 1: interest so severe that it is worth or it is

488
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Speaker 1: the right thing to do to have Mueller stepped down

489
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Speaker 1: because of them? Given that, there will be just shock

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Speaker 1: waves of outrage throughout the media and a lot of

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Speaker 1: other places. But the last person before Mueller that I

492
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Speaker 1: read so many, uh like hagiographies off I mean, just amazing,

493
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Speaker 1: so trustworthy, public servant, incorruptible, all about the facts. The

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Speaker 1: last person before Mueller that I read those kinds of

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Speaker 1: stories about was James Coby, and they didn't last all

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Speaker 1: that long. They only lasted so long as James Coby

497
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Speaker 1: was doing the bidding. Well, I shouldn't say the bidding,

498
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: was doing a favor, a solid, whether he wanted to

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Speaker 1: or not, for Hillary Clinton and her prospects for the presidency.

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Speaker 1: And then we saw Comy releasing documents to The New

501
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Speaker 1: York Times in the league, and we saw that he's

502
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Speaker 1: a He's a political player. Of course, he's a political player.

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Speaker 1: Mueller is a political player. Everybody. We know this. We

504
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Speaker 1: know this, So what to do about it? Wow? I

505
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Speaker 1: don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were

506
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Speaker 1: a couple of Trump tweets this weekend about how you know,

507
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Speaker 1: Mueller totally biased, so close with Comey sad exclamation point,

508
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Speaker 1: unfair exclamation point, you know, something like that. That and

509
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Speaker 1: then next week because I can see that now even

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Speaker 1: if you wanted, let's just look at this from a

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Speaker 1: pure power politics viewpoint, right, if you wanted to consolidate

512
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Speaker 1: the gains, and I know I'm thinking about this in

513
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Speaker 1: very zero some terms, but if you want to consolidate

514
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Speaker 1: the games this week from pushing back against the Russian

515
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Speaker 1: narrative with the fusion GPS funded by Hillary and the

516
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Speaker 1: DNC narrative, A great way to do that and to

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Speaker 1: capitalize on that and to consolidate the gains would be

518
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Speaker 1: to turn next week into this whole Russia probe is

519
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Speaker 1: a joke. Shut it down. I just right, if if

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Speaker 1: you were, if you were directing this effort and and

521
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Speaker 1: your only goal because you truly believed, as I do,

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Speaker 1: that there's nothing to this investigation, that it's a witch hunt,

523
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Speaker 1: that it's unfair, and that this never should have happened

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Speaker 1: in the first place, and that prosecutorial discretion runs both ways,

525
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Speaker 1: certainly ran both ways for Hillary Clinton. Right, So if

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Speaker 1: you believe all that, and you were trying to stop

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Speaker 1: this thing or at least force it to become less

528
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Speaker 1: blatantly partisan in its implementation, I think that getting making

529
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Speaker 1: this about going for the full investigation you shut down

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Speaker 1: is probably too much. But saying that Muller needs to

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Speaker 1: recuse himself needs to resign, step down. That I can see,

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Speaker 1: and that would make some sense to me. So we

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Speaker 1: may be going there, everybody and just get that. The

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Speaker 1: only thing I can think of all the top of

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Speaker 1: my head that is a likely political fight that would

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Speaker 1: mirror the ferocity that that would ignite, would be about

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Speaker 1: an open Supreme Court seat. I mean, then you'll see

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Speaker 1: Democrats is well, those can be completely losing it with

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration. With a Trump presidency and an open

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court seat, it would get it would get ugly

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Speaker 1: out there in political and media world fast. But in

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Speaker 1: the short term, in the more immediate term, if you

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Speaker 1: have Muller get pressure to step down, and if the

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Speaker 1: d o J were to say, you know what you

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Speaker 1: need to as a I don't think they can shut

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Speaker 1: down the whole thing. I will say that's too far.

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Speaker 1: But if they get Muller to step down because the

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Speaker 1: conflict of interest, oh man, I don't even I don't

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Speaker 1: even know what would happen. I think there'd be like

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Speaker 1: work stoppages and a lot of a lot of media outlets.

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Speaker 1: They just wouldn't be able to go to work. They'd

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Speaker 1: be so traumatized. Alright, hit and break here We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have JFK talk in the next hour. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about the release documents. Also some updates on the NFL

555
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: and the Trump administration's approach to the opioid epidemic. Third hour,

556
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Speaker 1: some updates on the sexual harassment cases that are out there.

557
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Speaker 1: And I'm going to talk to you about cart cartel

558
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Speaker 1: stuff and some Team Buck speaks and your calls in

559
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Speaker 1: the meantime too. So let me roll into this break

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Speaker 1: and we will be right back. Debbie Wasserman, Schultz and

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Speaker 1: John Podesta are saying they didn't know about this dossier. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they don't know who who a thurized it. They should

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Speaker 1: know now. Maybe they didn't know when they testified in

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Speaker 1: front of Congress, but they should have gone back to

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Speaker 1: their organizations now and said who gave the authorization for

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Speaker 1: this law firm to employ Fusion GPS and get this

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Speaker 1: dossier going. I bet they have the answers to those

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Speaker 1: questions they should as the head of those organizations is

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Speaker 1: why did they lie about it for a year and

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Speaker 1: why weren't they transparent. The RNC does opposition research all

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Speaker 1: the time, right, we do, Yeah, we do it in house.

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Speaker 1: We hire outside vendors groups. We've never used a Russian group,

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Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what I know about it as

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Speaker 1: RNC chair. If we did. I still need someone to

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Speaker 1: explain to me how it is that we've created this

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Speaker 1: new law that's not a law, which is that you

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Speaker 1: can't get information from a foreigner that affects US politics.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me just put this out there. For example,

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Speaker 1: let's say, um, well, I was gonna say, let's say

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Speaker 1: that somebody was running for president and there were accusations

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Speaker 1: of a grotesque sexual behavior abroad? Would it be? And

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Speaker 1: that's what was in the dossier? So that's not even

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Speaker 1: really hypothetical, right, But you're gonna tell me that you

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Speaker 1: can't get information from foreigners. Well, people say, no, no,

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Speaker 1: buck the dossier, that's where they got it. Okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: But then why was it such a problem when Donald

587
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: Trump Jr. Sat down with a woman in Trump Tower, remember,

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Speaker 1: and that was on US soil? Excuse a foreigner? You

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00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: can't get information from foreigners? Well, this whole this whole

590
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: thing is clearly just riddled with lies, still, right, And

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of information that we don't know. And

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Speaker 1: I think, uh, they're we're they're gonna have to dig

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Speaker 1: in on this now, you know. I wish and I

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Speaker 1: will just say this because it's Friday and I'm feeling, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm feeling kind of spunky right now. Um,

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Speaker 1: but I I wish that we could actually spend more

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Speaker 1: time as a country right now on the political issues

598
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Speaker 1: that matter as it pertains to our day to day lives.

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Speaker 1: But instead, the Democrat Party wanted to make the primary

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Speaker 1: focus of the president's first year in office his political

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Speaker 1: survival as determined by legal processes and investigates. And that

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Speaker 1: swings both ways. As I've been saying, this is not

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Speaker 1: something that they are going to like. I think when

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Speaker 1: and when all said and Donna, I believe Democrats are

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Speaker 1: gonna wish that they had been less focused on trying

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Speaker 1: to litigate into disintegration the administration. That's what I think, um,

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Speaker 1: and and that's what we see the beginnings of right now.

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Speaker 1: I also think that you know, if if fake news

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Speaker 1: kind of stung before as a as an epithet against

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Speaker 1: some media organizations, once we get to the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the whole Russia collusion nonsense, people will not this. You'll

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Speaker 1: have a whole generation that won't be able to look

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Speaker 1: at media quite the same way. You will have multiple generations,

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Speaker 1: I suppose, but for there will be a whole era

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Speaker 1: in which we will probably break up into overtly partisan

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Speaker 1: news outlets. There will be no more pretense of yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're just we're just journalists, man, We're just

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Speaker 1: telling people the stuff. No, No, I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: think so. I don't think so at all. Um. But

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Speaker 1: the oppo research research. Here we are. It's a year later.

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Speaker 1: Who would have thought not a year ago or a

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Speaker 1: year from last summer, last fall, we would be in

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Speaker 1: a situation where what was happening then is still the

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Speaker 1: top at the top of the news cycle. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of astonishing. The JFK files, the release of them. What

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Speaker 1: is out there for the public and what is not

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Speaker 1: and why. We'll get into that and much more coming

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Speaker 1: up here in the next hour. The JFK docs have

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Speaker 1: been released mostly there are still redactions in them. I know.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned this to you yesterday and some people, some

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Speaker 1: people are pointing out that this seems a little bit

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Speaker 1: a little bit strange, including MSNBC's own Rachel Matt. Now

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Speaker 1: you know what they blew it. We sort of knew

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Speaker 1: they at least as an abstract matter, we sort of

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Speaker 1: knew they might blow it, sort of expected that, even

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Speaker 1: though I know better. It seemed for a second like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe this thing is a priority for them, Maybe this

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Speaker 1: one means so much to them that this one on

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Speaker 1: this one thing, they will actually get it done. They

640
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: did not get it done. I should have known. Maybe

641
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: the dog ate it, but it wasn't ready to go.

642
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: Ms Madow is not believing the official line from the

643
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: federal government so far that there are reasons, good reasons

644
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: for us for us to not see everything that has

645
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: been released thus far, or not everything that they have

646
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: for never mind what's been released Nazi everything that they

647
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: have when it comes to the j f K files. Now,

648
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: I will tell you that, having spent some time in

649
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: the secret part of the federal government, or the part

650
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: of the federal government that deals with secrecy, that there

651
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 1: are different reasons why the government won't tell you certain stuff.

652
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: Right There are different explanations that are given, or or

653
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: rather different explanations that I will give you, because there's

654
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: what the government will tell you, and then there's what

655
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now, which is that sometimes

656
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: government secrecy is very much warranted, right when it comes

657
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: to the names of people that are informants for different

658
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: federal agencies, people who work for in some in some capacities, right,

659
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: and a lot of people work the federal government's totally

660
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: out in the open, but some people, uh we'll end

661
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm talking the national security side, right. The Department of

662
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: Agriculture doesn't really come into effect here, although the secret

663
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: uh super secret squirrel sweet Potato Swat Team. I just

664
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: made that up, but that sounds you know, that might

665
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: be a thing. Right. I'm sure Department of Agriculture has

666
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: got some door kickers, you know, like, excuse me, sir,

667
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: did you or did you not meet your corn quota

668
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: for this? I don't know, I don't I don't know

669
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: which Department of Agriculture we get mad at people about

670
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: and kicking the doors. But I'm sure they would for something, right,

671
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: So there's probably a Monsanto conspiracy here somewhere that I'm

672
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: not picking up on right away. I mean, what they're putting,

673
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: what they're putting, I gotta stop. I'm getting that guy

674
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: too much. Uh, it's gonna look like I'm way too

675
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: fond of It's a great character it's great performance theater,

676
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: I have to say. I mean, it's up there with Uh,

677
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: it's actually better than a lot of the performance theater

678
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: you see on TV. But mont Santo. Yeah. Back to

679
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: JFK files. The reasons are that there's there's real secrecy

680
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: which can be needed sometimes, and that's what the government's saying.

681
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: The government is saying that some of these documents there's

682
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of pages. It's a few thousand documents,

683
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: but it's hundreds of thousands of pages until so, no

684
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 1: one's read through all of this, and uh, the most

685
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: interesting stuff that I've heard talked about so far is

686
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: not particularly interesting. So we'll see, we'll see, and we'll

687
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: have an expert joining as well to uh who knows

688
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 1: more about the JFK. I was just asked on Cavudo

689
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: shot earlier today, do you think that it was do

690
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: you think that Oswald did it himself or whether I

691
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: feel like Oswald obviously had connections to the communist underworld

692
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: and and I know somebody like Bucking the mafia and

693
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: Cuba and there's all this stuff. But I tend to

694
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: go with the Akam's razor explanation for these things, and

695
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: I think that Oswald probably I think he probably did

696
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: do it himself meeting. I don't think there was some

697
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: other shooter or more shooters. It was there possibly someone

698
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: who was encouraging him to do this and and maybe

699
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,959
Speaker 1: facilitating it up to the event in some way from

700
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: the communist Soviet underworld. Yeah, sure I could. I could

701
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: believe that. But all this stuff because I looked up

702
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: some of the conspiracy theories last night, because I know

703
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: some of you are listening, like, come on, like the

704
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: one time probably in the next ten twenty years that

705
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: it's really necessary to be up on your JFK JFK

706
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: assassination conspiracy theories. So I looked at them, and yeah,

707
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: there's people say that there's no uh, there's problems with

708
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: the bullet fragments. People say, I'm trying to remember all

709
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: the different ones. I mean, it was a little weird

710
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: that Jack Ruby decided to just take this guy out

711
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: just just because he was so upset. I mean, that

712
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: is you know, there was some stuff that I learned

713
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: that I was I was going back. I remember learning

714
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: about this in school, but as I was reading, I was, yeah,

715
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: there's there's some things that were a little a little

716
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: strange um and just the fact that when you go

717
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: back in time, the fact that there is that there

718
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 1: was a period when they would publicize the president's route

719
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: and send him in a thin skinned vehicle with the

720
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: top open. It's amazing. Now when a president goes somewhere,

721
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: it's like an invasion comes with him. Right, whenever the

722
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: president's anywhere, you know, it's a it's like a battalion

723
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: sized force that travels with the president in the United States,

724
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: So they have changed dramatically the security procedures. I think

725
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: Kennedy was the fourth president to have been assassinated. I

726
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: think that's right, and obviously Lincoln Garfield, yep, Lincoln Garfield, McKinley, Kennedy,

727
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: bam off. That actually was off the top of of

728
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: my head. Just for the just for those of you listening,

729
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: I can confirm Amy two, although she's busy doing something

730
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: else right this second. But yeah, So the conspiracies I

731
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: read through some of them. I still think that Oswald

732
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: probably doing it himself. But the reasons for the you know,

733
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: Oswald was was a loan shooter. But the reasons for

734
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: the secrecy could also be the embarrassing stuff, right, that

735
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 1: government's love to hide their ineptitude. Government's love to hide

736
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: when they are caught on a wears on something or

737
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: when they just look like they should have known more.

738
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: And so that's a very distinct possibility with some of

739
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: these redactions because it's been a really long time. You know,

740
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: they're saying that there are names in there that are

741
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 1: not names that should get out, meaning US government names

742
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: or people that work um as assets for the US government.

743
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: Or that was in the official statement that came out

744
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: today from Langley. From what I read on ABC News. Okay,

745
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: but you know, I don't know, I mean, how much

746
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: of a how much of a risk is it really?

747
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: I mean, is anyone really gonna be going through like

748
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: the retirement home to try to find some of these guys?

749
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: I mean maybe, I guess. I look, I don't know

750
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: what's in there. So I'm there's a lot of spitballing

751
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: that's going on here right now, a lot of surmising,

752
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: a lot of assuming. But we will have somebody joining

753
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: to to get into a little more of what what

754
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: maybe in these documents and also what some of the

755
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: unanswered questions are when it comes to all things j

756
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: F K assassination. It is an incredible historical event. I

757
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: mean I really went back and read up on it

758
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: last night as I was going through the conspiracy theories

759
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: as well. The conspiracy theories make for very interesting viewing

760
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,479
Speaker 1: and reading and that is for sure, UM. But it's

761
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: it's incredible. I mean, it's terrible. It's really deeply tragic,

762
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: sad day for America. UM. It's also incredible in the

763
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: sense of hard to believe it is. It is almost

764
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: unbelievable that that happened. You know, even this many decades later,

765
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: that that could have happened, and it certainly did, and

766
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: we have it on video. You watched the video. The

767
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: video is the video is haunting. UM. But we will

768
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: have an expert joining us on this and we have

769
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: much more show coming your way, so we will be

770
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: right back. All right, Welcome back, team. I gave you

771
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: some of my thoughts before about what's going on with

772
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: the JFK files, But I'm I'm a highly ranked amateur

773
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: at best in this business of JFK a stuff. In fact,

774
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: I think Hilie Ryank is giving way too much credit.

775
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: I'm an amateur in the JFK slew thing. We've got

776
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: somebody who actually studies this and it's going to tell

777
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: you what we can glean from what's been released and

778
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: what may be coming out in the future. Dr Barbara

779
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: Perry is with us. She is a Presidential studies director

780
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: at U v As Miller Center. Dr Barry, great to

781
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: have you, Great to be with you. Okay, So what

782
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: has happened here? What do we know so far? What

783
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: we know so far is that there's not apparently a

784
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: smoking gun contained in these documents. But oh wait, there

785
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: was a smoking gun. It was Lee Harvey Oswald's rifle

786
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: that practically was still smoking when they found it in

787
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: the Texas school Book Depository with his handprints on it,

788
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: that he had ordered through Hamail. But I guess you

789
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: know by now I'm not a conspiracy theorist. So having

790
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: said that up front, what do we know from this

791
00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: trench that came out yesterday? Which is yet again more information,

792
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: but not all of the information, and we will probably

793
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: never have all the information. We'll talk about that later.

794
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: So what is this? I describe it as a time capsule.

795
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: Um to me, it's more than a time capsule of

796
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: the Kennedy assassination, though it is that. It's a time

797
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: capsule of the Cold War and Cold War espionage. So

798
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: I cannot say that I've gone through all twenty eight

799
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: hundreds of the documents in the last twenty four hours,

800
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: but I've gone through a fair number of them. And

801
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: so what you see is leading up to the assassination,

802
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: you see a page after page after page of people

803
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: who threatened to kill the president or people who were

804
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: potential assassins, including Puerto Rican nationalists who, by the way,

805
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: had tried to assassinate President Truman in the nineteen fifties.

806
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: You see members of the k K K who are listed.

807
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: So you get this whole sense that it wasn't just

808
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald that the FBI and the Secret Service

809
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: had to be concerned about, and they were, but it

810
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: was literally hundreds of other people leading up to the

811
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: assassination and then afterwards. It boggles the mind the number

812
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: of people informants who were talked to by the FBI,

813
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: particularly afterwards, and they range from everybody from someone who said, yeah,

814
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: I was drunk and in a bar in New Orleans

815
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: a few weeks before the assassination, and another drunk guy,

816
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: I was taking bets that Kennedy would be dead in

817
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: three weeks. Well, I can't. I don't remember what he

818
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: looked like, and I was too drunk to remember, and

819
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't even remember the bar that I was in.

820
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 1: Those are the kinds of things that are in there.

821
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: And how one would even begin to line draw on

822
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: the ultimate answer to who killed John Kennedy is beyond me.

823
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: But what's this about, L L b J. I saw

824
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 1: this reported in The Hill that lb J thought kennedy

825
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: assassination was payback for the assassination of Vietnam President. Yes, well,

826
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: this is utterly fascinating. Here at the Miller Center, we

827
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: do um editing and annotating and analyzing of all of

828
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: the secret White House tapes. And one of the secret

829
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: White House tapes, uh is John Kennedy, three weeks before

830
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: his own assassination talking into a dictaphone about his impressions

831
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 1: that the DM, the president of Vietnam, has just been assassinated.

832
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: And Kennedy realizes it's because his administration has given the

833
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: okay to do that, and that he's shocked that it

834
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: would go that far. Uh. And so there are people

835
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: who thought, including Johnson apparently, that this could have been

836
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: paid back in some way. Again, all Cold War politics

837
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 1: if you watch the ken Burn series, it was all

838
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: about the Cold War. Vietnam was and so that's another

839
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: slice of this Cold War layering. And that doesn't even

840
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: include the Soviets, the Chinese and the Cubans. What can

841
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: you tell us about the possible uh or? I don't

842
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: know if this is well people and people have said

843
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: that the CIA was considering using the mafia to kill Castro. Oh, yes, yes,

844
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: that that is very well known up to this point

845
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: as well. But there are some more documents that I

846
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: came across last night, and people, if they don't know

847
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: about this, will want to google Mongoose. So Operation Mongoose

848
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: was the um the secret program in the Kennedy administration

849
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: to try to take out Castro. However, having just said that,

850
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Speaker 1: of course it was a program of trying to eliminate

851
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: Castro uh, if not by assassination, certainly by invasion and

852
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 1: taking him out as the head of Cuba. That idea

853
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: was started in the Eisenhower administration. So it wasn't just

854
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: the Kennedy administration, but the Kennedy's really locked in after

855
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: the failure at the Bay of Pigs and after the

856
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: possibility that we would have been in a nuclear conflagration

857
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: with the Cubans. By virtue of the Soviet missiles there

858
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 1: in the Cuban missile crisis, the Kennedy's redoubled their efforts

859
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: to try to take out Castro. So there have always

860
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: been stories about that possibility. What were some of the

861
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: wackiest versions of the attempt that could have been made

862
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: or that they were thinking about making on Castro. I've

863
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: I've heard some stuff about some things. Oh my favorite

864
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: is the exploding cigar. They were hoping to get exploding

865
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: cigars into the hands of Castro. And and by the way,

866
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: what was so fascinating at this, if we pointed out

867
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: about this is is that it also then involved the

868
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: Mob because the Mob was so entrenched in Cuba prior

869
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: to Castro's taking taking over with the Marxist regime and

870
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: chucking out all of the Mob. So the mob didn't

871
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: want Castro there. They wanted to go back to the

872
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: old days when Batista, the right wing dictator propped up

873
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 1: by the United States was there. Uh, And so there

874
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: were there were issues about the CIA getting with the

875
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: Mob to go in and take out Castro through things

876
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: like exploding cigars, but also through an invasion at the

877
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: Bay of Pigs that Kennedy gave the final ok to,

878
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: whereby the CIA had trained in Guatemala Cuban freedom fighters

879
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: to the tune of a thousand or eleven hundred of

880
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 1: them and then ship them into the Bay of Pigs.

881
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: But Kennedy didn't give enough air cover to make it successful.

882
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: Castro knew about it and was waiting there for the invaders.

883
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: We've got Dr Barbara Perry online. She's the Presidential Studies

884
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 1: Director U v As Miller Center. UH. Dr Perry before

885
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: before I I toss the the one question your way

886
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: that I just got to ask before on a national

887
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: TV about the JFK assassination. Let me ask you this,

888
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: what are the uh what are the lingering questions that

889
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: are in the realm of conspiracy, but are in the

890
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 1: realm of we really would like to know what happened there.

891
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: I think it's what's left in the CIA and FBI

892
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: and maybe Secret Service documents that are extant. We believe

893
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: that some of those documents, particularly the Secret Service documents

894
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: but also CIA documents, were actually destroyed in the wake

895
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: of the assassination, and therefore we will never know what

896
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: those contained and Therefore, we may never have all the answers.

897
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: But what we are hoping to see come April will

898
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: be those documents that yesterday the CIA and the f

899
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: B I asked not to be revealed. We hope those

900
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: will be revealed in April. And what will they tell us?

901
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: In my view what will what they will tell us

902
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 1: is that Lee Harvey Oswald was the shooter who took

903
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: out the president and I believe was the soul shooter.

904
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: That puts me in a minority of the American people

905
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: who think that there was a conspiracy. That's Oh, I

906
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: just went on TV and said that I thought he was,

907
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: But that was just mostly going with my gut and

908
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: what I've read all this, But I don't follow it

909
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: that coarsely, right, So I think that will we ever

910
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: find out if there for certain was a conspiracy and

911
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 1: who it was engaged in it? I think the answer

912
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: to that is no. And because we won't ever have

913
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: that with certitude, there will always be these lingering questions,

914
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: and the human mind tends to go down that conspiracy road. Uh,

915
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: And so I think that as long as there is

916
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: a world, there will be conspiracy. Are there some are

917
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: there some urban legends about this that you could point

918
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: to you and say, I know everybody says this, but

919
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: that's actually just not what the facts show me. Because

920
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: I've bullet fragments. I read something about there are a

921
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: few things. Yeah, so well, one that I came across

922
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: the day that they found in the documentation that I

923
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't say as an urban legend or that everyone knows it,

924
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 1: but I think it's one of the wackiest is that

925
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: Officer J. D. Tippett, who was killed by Oswald as

926
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 1: he ran from the scene of the assassination. Uh, there

927
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: is a document that indicates that, oh, there was a

928
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: conspiracy and Tippett actually assassinated the president and therefore had

929
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: to be killed, and that he was killed by Jack

930
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: Ruby and the finding, uh, finding Oswald at the theater.

931
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 1: What's the explanation for that? Oh, simply that I remember

932
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,479
Speaker 1: as a kid, you know, they always said John Wilkes

933
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: Booth assassinated Lincoln in a theater and ran to a

934
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: warehouse where he was ultimately killed. Oswald shot from a

935
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: warehouse and ran to a theater. So he just was

936
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: running to running from Not only is he is having

937
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: just assassinated the president, but running from his murder of J. D. Tippett.

938
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: The police officer who saw him realized he fit the

939
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: description of the assassin and tried to pull him over.

940
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: Is walking on the street, tried to pull over to him,

941
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: and Austal just shot him in cold blood, and then

942
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: he ran to the theater. And then someone in the

943
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: theater just happened to realize what was going on here.

944
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: Someone saw him running into the theater and a match

945
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: the description that was being put out in an all

946
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: points bulletin UH, and so police officers went running in

947
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: and by the way, he reached for his pistol with

948
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: which he had just shot Officer Tippett, and tried to

949
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: take out the two police officers who wrestled him to

950
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: the ground, but they ultimately did. Dr Perry, what is

951
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 1: your what is your level of confidence? If I'm asking

952
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: on a percentage basis, what is your level of confidence

953
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: that Oswald was a lone shooter and there was no

954
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: conspiracy in this assassination? Mine is okay, We'll take it well,

955
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 1: Dr Perry, We really appreciate you joining guess. Dr Barbara

956
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: Perry is the Presidential Studies Director at U v As

957
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: Miller Center UH. Miller Center. How do people go learn more? Oh? Absolutely,

958
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: Miller Center dot org www dot Miller Center dot org

959
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: and you will find a treasure trove of information about

960
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: all presidents. All right, Douc, thanks so much. Great to

961
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: have you on you Buck. I enjoyed it. And so

962
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: team we're gonna be getting into some Fridays. We've got

963
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: a lot of topics here. We are going to be

964
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: jumping into some discussion of the NFL this week, which

965
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to yet on the show. But we've

966
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: got an expert sports analysts who just happens to be

967
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 1: part of the Freedom Hunt crew, happens to work on

968
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: this show, Tyrone. He'll be talking to us about uh,

969
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: some very interesting stuff that's gone on in the NFL,

970
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: Kaepernick kneeling, owner feuds, all kinds of stuff. We're gonna

971
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: hit it all that, So that is coming up. We'll

972
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,720
Speaker 1: also be joined by an expert we've had before who's

973
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: just fantastic in terms of her knowledge on the subject

974
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: of how to combat the opioid epidemic in this country.

975
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: After that big speech yesterday, we'll have some Team Buck

976
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: speaks coming up. A lot of show and of course

977
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: your calls eight four four n eight to five. Buck

978
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: will be right back, alright. The President gave a major

979
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: speech yesterday the opioid epidemic, and he declared it a

980
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: national health emergency. What were the most important takeaways from that?

981
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: We have an expert to join us now on that topic.

982
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: Dr Bertha Madrass is with us the professor of Psychobiology

983
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: in the Department of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. She

984
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: is a former Deputy Director for Demand Reduction in the

985
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, and her

986
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: research focuses on the relevance of dopamine signaling to addiction biology.

987
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: Dr Mdross, great to have you. I'm delighted to be

988
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: with you. Thank you. So tell me what were the

989
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: what were the most important takeaways in terms of what

990
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: what now happens? After the President gives the speech declares

991
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: that it is a national emergency, he said they're going

992
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: to do some things. What will change? What's important here?

993
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: I think the most important thing is the tone he

994
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: set for the country. That's first of all. I think

995
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: it was one of the speeches up and waiting fifty

996
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: years to hear the president, and that is that we

997
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: have to approach this problem from the point of view prevention,

998
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: intervention and treatment and supply reduction. He covered every single

999
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: base that I think is essential to combating the opioid

1000
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: crisis as well as addiction in general in our country.

1001
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: Now that's the general theme, and he said using drugs

1002
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: amongst adolescents is simply a bad choice, bad decision. So

1003
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: I thought he touched on just about every single piece

1004
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: of the entire drug use and addiction policy issues that

1005
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: have been problematic in our country now. Specifically, he touched

1006
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: on everything on reducing the supply, which is not necessarily

1007
00:58:53,480 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: only law enforcement, but prevention includes reducing prescription opioids. It

1008
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: includes interdicting with heroin supplies as well as pentanel from

1009
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: Mexico from China. He touched on improving treatment, but he

1010
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: also touched very I thought, very humanely compassionately on treatment

1011
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: for people who are generally not considered um in in

1012
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: the whole array of responsibilities, and that is treatment for prisoners,

1013
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: drug courts, treatment for pregnant women, for families that have

1014
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: an addiction. I think he touched just about every single

1015
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: base um and and obviously reducing prescriptions as part of it.

1016
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: What has to change specifically on the issue of prescriptions,

1017
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: because I know that there were a lot of a

1018
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: lot of folks who are political analysts who heard that

1019
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: speech and they're one of their big reactions had to

1020
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: do with dealing with the criminal justice side of this,

1021
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: whether it's the wall in Aracian drug cartels, drug smuggling,

1022
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: drug dealing, all of that. But on the prescription drug side,

1023
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: which is a big part and we've talked about this before,

1024
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: Dr madraws a big part of this problem. What changes

1025
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: have to be made there? Well, let let me just

1026
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: go back for one moment. If you analyze the speech

1027
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: and the length of the speech, has time spent on

1028
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: the wall and all this was very minimal. People have

1029
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: just heard what they wanted to hear. So in terms

1030
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: of prescription oversupply, our commission report which I can't really

1031
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: speak UM specifically on because it's on close hold until

1032
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: it's released in November the first next Wednesday, but there

1033
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: are clearly a number of steps that are being taken

1034
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: UM to reduce prescriptional pioids, and and among those are

1035
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: looking at how we got here. We got here because

1036
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: ensures approved description opoioid liberately UM, but put something blocks

1037
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: into approving medications for addiction. Um, they put sumbling blocks

1038
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: into approving treatment. So we have to be concerned about

1039
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: the insurers. We have to be concerned about physician education,

1040
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: which is a very critical piece. Dr josh One thing

1041
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: he did the President did mention was non addictive pain

1042
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: killers as a possible way to deal with the help

1043
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: deal with the problem is that are they are there

1044
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: versions that are as effective? I mean, is that really

1045
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: an option that will have a major impact? Well, there

1046
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: are many non non opioid, non addictive pain killers on

1047
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: the market today, and a number of them are over

1048
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: the counter, you know the end States and non ster

1049
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: royal anti inflammatory. Right, But if somebody has had major

1050
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: surgery or there in a lot of back pain, usually

1051
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: time and all they'll tell you doesn't get it done right.

1052
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: So are there other things that are equivalent to There

1053
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: are other things such as medical devices that interfere with

1054
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: pain pathways, and we also um there there's a very

1055
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: uh strong push and energy towards developing public private partnerships

1056
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: with pharmaceutical companies to exclore all the other different targets

1057
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: that you can use to alleviate pain. And there are

1058
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: a number of them that have not been widely explored

1059
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: because there has been such a um you know, concerned

1060
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: it can concentrated effort on opioids. Now we're changing that.

1061
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: We're looking at other receptors, other targets that may produce

1062
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: a very effective pain relief UH without opioids. And even

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Speaker 1: if you need opioids, why use a thirty days supply

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Speaker 1: if only a two or three day supplies necessary. Dr

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Speaker 1: Bertha Madrass, Professor of Psychobiology at Harvard Medical School in

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Speaker 1: the Department of Psychiatry. UH. Dr Madrass, please come back

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Speaker 1: after that report's release. We really appreciate you sharing your

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Speaker 1: expertise today. I'll be able to give you a lot

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Speaker 1: more once we're released. There are so many recommendations and

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Speaker 1: if it reflects how complex the problem is, but I

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Speaker 1: do think that it will cover as many issues as

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Speaker 1: we can possibly do at the present time. An ongoing process.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much, Dr Madrass. Have a

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Speaker 1: good weekend. So yeah, it's looked at the doctor was

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Speaker 1: in the house just there so to speak, and she's

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Speaker 1: saying that the Trump speech yesterday, as as I said

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Speaker 1: here on the show, Trump speech was it was very strong,

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Speaker 1: and I think that this is an area where we

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Speaker 1: have seen a lot of of I think, more enlightened

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Speaker 1: in fact based approaches, in reach and years to the

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Speaker 1: whole notion of addiction, the drug war, all of this. Right,

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Speaker 1: We're getting better as a society at understanding this and

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Speaker 1: dealing with this. It's not, you know, quite as much

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Speaker 1: of like you know, if you're smoke weed, your nose

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Speaker 1: is gonna fall off, you know, I mean that doesn't

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Speaker 1: really help. Uh. And I think that things have things

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Speaker 1: have changed now and everyone understands one the seriousness the

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Speaker 1: impact on on on families and across the country, the

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Speaker 1: the casualty right now from specifically opioids, but also because

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Speaker 1: of the changes in marijuana policy and the way that

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Speaker 1: we are coming at this from a more more holistic perspective.

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Speaker 1: I just think that we're we're in better shape to

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Speaker 1: to deal with this. It would have been the best

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Speaker 1: scenario would have been never get to this crisis point

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Speaker 1: with opioids, of course, but at least now I think

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Speaker 1: we have some better tools as a country and as

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Speaker 1: part of the national conversation to tackle this. And Trump's

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Speaker 1: all over it, so we will see, we'll come back

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about the NFL oh in just a few

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Speaker 1: al Right, we are in the midst of a freestyle Friday,

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Speaker 1: which means that, yes, we have action movie quotes. We've

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Speaker 1: got a lot of stuff to talk about and a

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Speaker 1: lot on our minds, and we also have a very

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Speaker 1: particular asset, a sports analyst par excellence, the one and

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Speaker 1: only Tyrone, who was with me all the time here

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Speaker 1: helping every aspect of the show. But he also is

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Speaker 1: going to weigh in now on all things particularly NFL

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Speaker 1: from this week. Tyrone. Good to have you back, sir,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Um. Yes, it was a interesting

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Speaker 1: week in the NFL and had nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: the actual product. I I have not touched on this

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Speaker 1: at all, as you know, because you're here with me,

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01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: so bring everybody, including me, up to speed on what happened.

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Speaker 1: I've seen some headlines, right, some Kaepernick stuff, some other

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Speaker 1: but but well, what was interesting that happened in the

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Speaker 1: world of sports that ties into the world of politics

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Speaker 1: this week, well, this past week, there was a big

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Speaker 1: A week ago, there was a big meeting in New

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Speaker 1: York with the players and some of the owners and

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Speaker 1: the commissioner. And now some pieces from journalists who are

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Speaker 1: allowed in the room have come out. And the biggest

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Speaker 1: thing is that the Houston, Texas Texans owner said that

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Speaker 1: as far as the anthem protests, that they can't let

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Speaker 1: the inmates run the prison, not inmates run the asylum.

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Speaker 1: The common phrase it was, we can't let the inmates

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Speaker 1: run to prison. And a lot of people, a lot

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Speaker 1: of players and actually some other owners were very upset

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Speaker 1: about it, including Bob Kraft, the owner of the New

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Speaker 1: England Patriots. Now, are we just gonna skip past the

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Speaker 1: possibility that he got the saying wrong. I mean, do

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Speaker 1: you think it was a conscious decision to say prison

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Speaker 1: instead of asylum? Or you know how sometimes people say,

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Speaker 1: you know, I remember I heard a lady ones who

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Speaker 1: English wasn't her foreign language, and she was worried about

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Speaker 1: a disease lying doormat in her system. Right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, people make mistakes. But she was a foreigner.

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Speaker 1: This guy's cleuely not a foreigner. But maybe he got

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Speaker 1: the phrase wrong, but you don't think so, No, he

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Speaker 1: very well may have. The issue is, and this is

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Speaker 1: the thing that I think people have to realize outside

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Speaker 1: of make it to just your job. Let's forget that

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Speaker 1: their NFL players, the bosses in the NFL and their

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01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: labor forts have a terrible relationship, the worst by far

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Speaker 1: of all major sports in America. Why is that? It's

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Speaker 1: because the NFL is the only they're the only players

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Speaker 1: with no guaranteed contracts, and they're the only ones that

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Speaker 1: in ways and having been in locker rooms at times,

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Speaker 1: they're treated like cattle. They're well well paid cattle, but

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Speaker 1: they're here today, going tomorrow, and generally they're just thrown

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Speaker 1: out the pasture. The other thing is, while they're well paid,

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Speaker 1: and the average salaries a little over four hundred thousands,

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01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,919
Speaker 1: the minimum salaries a little over four hundred thousand dollars. Now,

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Speaker 1: the average career is only two years, and eight percent

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Speaker 1: of NFL players go broke after they play. So there's

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Speaker 1: a feeling that they come in get injured because very

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Speaker 1: few football players walk well separate from the CT and

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Speaker 1: issues like that after they're finished playing. And the thinking

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Speaker 1: is no one within those organizations care about their labor forth.

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Speaker 1: What you're saying, it's a the moment you're talking NFL

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Speaker 1: owners and players, and this is even a part from

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Speaker 1: kneeling and anthems, and it's a combustible situation. Absolutely, and

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Speaker 1: then you pile it on Trump. Is if I think

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Speaker 1: it's fair to say at times a polarizing figure, I

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01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: think that's fair to say among many people he's polarizing.

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Speaker 1: It's not so polarizing it in the NFL, in that

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Speaker 1: seventy of that workforce is black, according to most polls,

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Speaker 1: are of black people are not pro Trump. Almost all

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Speaker 1: the NFL owners are pro Trump. That's not. And then

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Speaker 1: once Trump says whatever whatever he says about the NFL,

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Speaker 1: it's now instantly a US versus them moment, no matter

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Speaker 1: what he's talking about. I saw some pole that actually

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Speaker 1: said that. I think it was a Washington Post poll.

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Speaker 1: It said that the anthem protests are still unpopular, but

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Speaker 1: are actually gained in popularity in last week or two.

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Speaker 1: It's weird because I can give you a little bit

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Speaker 1: of insight this past Monday Monday Night football, and I

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Speaker 1: the team that I followed the close US in the

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Speaker 1: team where I have some relationships to Philadelphia Eagles, they

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Speaker 1: have players that have actually tried to make changes and

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Speaker 1: they don't kneel. For example, what Malcolm Jenkins, Chris Long,

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Speaker 1: who actually has donated his entire year's salary, two different

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Speaker 1: educational research to try to bridge this gap. They finished

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Speaker 1: Monday Night football. I think the game was done at

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Speaker 1: eleven thirty pm. By They were in Harrisburg, the capital

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Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania, by eight am Tuesday morning to meet with

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Speaker 1: lawmakers about the situation. I think more and more of

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Speaker 1: the players have done a better job in recent weeks

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Speaker 1: explaining why they're protesting. And most people, I shouldn't say most,

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Speaker 1: some people when they hear the explanation now say, okay,

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Speaker 1: I understand, but the ratings are down. The ratings are

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Speaker 1: absolutely down now, and and it is in some ways

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Speaker 1: anthem related. But what business do you know? And I

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Speaker 1: just want to just give people, just take it out

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Speaker 1: of football. What business do you know that's up every

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Speaker 1: single year for thirty consecutive years, No up, no downs,

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Speaker 1: just up for thirty consecutive years. What business ever? The

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Speaker 1: NFL literally made more, got more profitable, and ratings increased

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Speaker 1: every year from nineteen six to two thousand and fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Every year they just went up, up, up, up up.

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Speaker 1: Sooner or later there was gonna be a come down.

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Speaker 1: And the biggest reason is Thursday Night football. No one

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Speaker 1: asked for it. It's saturated the market. And that's the

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Speaker 1: one thing that football had over all other sports is

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Speaker 1: it was once a week. It was once a week,

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Speaker 1: so no matter how busy your life is, people would have,

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Speaker 1: you know, destination viewing. Yeah, once they put those Thursday

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Speaker 1: night games on, it stopped being destination viewing. And that

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Speaker 1: was the biggest reason. Anthems absolutely play a role, but

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Speaker 1: people's football stopped being special when they did Thursday Night.

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Speaker 1: The players didn't want it, the fans didn't ask for it,

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Speaker 1: but the owners could get another check and they did it.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Tyrone, who's one of the producers here in

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Speaker 1: the Freedom Hund Tyrone uh also the laid it. Oh

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Speaker 1: wait before I get into the Kaepernick. The product this

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Speaker 1: year with the NFL, I haven't been watching and I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna pretend that it's because of a big political statement,

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Speaker 1: although that factored into my thinking as well. I just

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Speaker 1: have been too busy and I just haven'ten watching it.

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Speaker 1: And Molly doesn't really watch football, so you know that

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Speaker 1: means it's hard for me to take over the TV

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Speaker 1: for three or four hours. But the product has not

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Speaker 1: been as good this year, is what I'm told from

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Speaker 1: friends of mine, meaning that it's just the league is

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Speaker 1: in a down year in terms of what the teams

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Speaker 1: are doing on the field. Well see, and this goes

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Speaker 1: back to the player versus owner relationship. Everything is related.

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Speaker 1: It's funny you say that. It used to be if

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Speaker 1: you were drafted high in the NFL or wherever you

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Speaker 1: were drafted, you could get paid whatever you negotiated. And

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Speaker 1: what that force teams to do sometimes was say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't want this young player who maybe who will

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Speaker 1: take a few years to develop. I'll keep this veteran

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Speaker 1: player around because I can actually get him cheaper than

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Speaker 1: this young player. The NFL set up this slotting system

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Speaker 1: in which because they wanted to save money, teams are

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Speaker 1: too young. If you know how to a football and

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Speaker 1: you're around thirty years old and you're not a superstar,

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01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: they just get rid of you and replace you with

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01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: a twenty two year old who doesn't really know what's

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01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 1: going on, hasn't figured it out. And that's going on,

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01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,719
Speaker 1: and it's becoming bigger and bigger and bigger around the league,

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Speaker 1: and that's part of the reason why some of the

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01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 1: players who figure you're gonna push me out soon. That's

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01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: part of the reason that relationship is bad, that there's

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Speaker 1: something to be said for being professional at anything, and

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01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 1: that includes sports. And they set up a system now

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Speaker 1: where it be who's the owners to have cheap labor

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Speaker 1: that isn't as professional because they're just younger and the

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Speaker 1: middle class players are now, so now you have superstars

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Speaker 1: and children and it it's hurt the level of play.

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Speaker 1: And now Kaepernick as of this week, what is what's

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Speaker 1: the calf update? Kaepernick? That lawsuits still going your head

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Speaker 1: the NFL and the players because they didn't really come

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Speaker 1: to any agreement the last meeting. What the NFL is

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Speaker 1: looking to do is what the NBA did. Silver was

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Speaker 1: able to say, Adam Silver, the NBA commissioner, was able

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Speaker 1: to say, y'all don't want you to kneel and not

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Speaker 1: a single NBA player deal because they said, you know what,

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Speaker 1: we like this guy. He we're making big money and

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Speaker 1: we have a good relationship. And it seems like after

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Speaker 1: if NFL NBA players who have had substance abuse problems,

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Speaker 1: the league will pay for rehab, their pension systems better,

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01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 1: and careers are just longer, so you're able to stay

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Speaker 1: with the team longer just because you're not out in

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Speaker 1: two years. Their relationships are way better. The NFL is

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Speaker 1: trying to cultivate those relationships. They're having another set of meetings,

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Speaker 1: and now it's official Kaepernick will actually be invited to

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Speaker 1: these meetings that he was not invited there and a

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Speaker 1: lot of players last time, we're like, how can we

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Speaker 1: have these meetings about anthem protests if you don't have

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Speaker 1: the person who was responsible for anthem protests there. So

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Speaker 1: the biggest update is the lawsuits continuing, but he is

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Speaker 1: officially invited to the next set of meetings, which I

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Speaker 1: believe will happen the week after things. He got a

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Speaker 1: book deal worth one million dollars US a lot for

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Speaker 1: a book deal. Now, some people have said he won't

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Speaker 1: write the book. I will say this, I'm not talking

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Speaker 1: about his politics. He was a four point student in

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Speaker 1: high school and he was a four point oh student

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Speaker 1: in college. Maybe he may dumb decisions. He's not a

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Speaker 1: dumb guy. If I could do one more thing about

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Speaker 1: the ratings, if i'm the NFL ratings are down, but

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Speaker 1: we have to recognize that down is relative, and I'll

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01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: explain the world series is happening right now. You have

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Speaker 1: two big markets. You have Los Angeles, huge market, Houston,

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Speaker 1: you've got to top ten markets playing in the World Series.

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Speaker 1: They got an eleven share in their ratings for Game

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01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: two was a big, extra ending, huge game, and those

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01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 1: ratings were up from pre from last year when the

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Speaker 1: Cubs were in and everybody loves the Cups. A regular

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Speaker 1: Thursday night, regular season football game between the Eagles and

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01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: Panthers last week got a ten six. Just so, while

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Speaker 1: the ratings are down, a regular season frown NFL game

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Speaker 1: is basically like a World Series game, right, So they're down,

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Speaker 1: but it's all relative. There's so much bigger than everybody.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's Tyrone for you, everybody. Tyrone has always

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Speaker 1: my friend. Thank you very much for shedding some wisdom

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Speaker 1: and some light on all this. Thank you our team.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna roll into a break. We'll be right back

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Speaker 1: with more of a free st now Friday, stay right there.

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01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: I had no warning. I remember the lurch when I

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01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 1: went to the desk and I said Mr wyn Sneezy

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01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 1: on the patio and they said he's in his room,

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01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, kididding me. But you went

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01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 1: up because I had a business appointment, which is as

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01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,640
Speaker 1: that's you know his pattern of sexual predation. That was

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01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 1: how he rolled. I fought with this volley of nose,

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01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 1: which he ignored. Who knows, maybe he heard them as maybe,

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01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: maybe he heard them as yeses. Finally, I just said,

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Speaker 1: when I went an Oscar in one of your movies, okay,

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01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, when you get nominated. I said, no,

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Speaker 1: when I went an Oscar, and then I just fled.

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Speaker 1: That was Ashley Judd on Good Morning America talking about

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Speaker 1: a horrific interaction with now disgraced movie mogul Harvey Wines

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01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 1: Dean um. The stories that have come out on us,

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01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 1: and I have not spent much time at all this

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Speaker 1: week on them, even though there's there's now other directors

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Speaker 1: and there's other you know, other actors, Yester. I spoke

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Speaker 1: to you about what I thought was our first, and

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01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 1: there will be more, and I want you to keep

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01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 1: that in mind. I want you to be on the lookout.

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Speaker 1: This mobilization of anti sexual harassment forces will be used

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01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:32,600
Speaker 1: for for good, but it will also, by some be

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01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 1: used as a way of trying to settle scores, to

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Speaker 1: undermine political opponents, to to take people out from being

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Speaker 1: on the battlefield of ideas. So just be aware of

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Speaker 1: that and the even in this new environment that's very

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Speaker 1: sensitive environment that we're in, the leeway that has given

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Speaker 1: to somebody on the right for any kind of sexual

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01:16:56,160 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 1: harassment or sexual misconduct will be a a fraction of

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01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:03,799
Speaker 1: what is offered up for those on the left. Still still,

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01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 1: but I have to say there there has been this

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Speaker 1: part of me as I've been thinking about this, I

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01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: keep seeing the headlines and stories are so salacious. That's

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01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why the media is running with this,

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01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:19,639
Speaker 1: because it's just you see a poll quote from some

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Speaker 1: of these interactions that Harvey Weinstein had with these young women,

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01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 1: and you just automatically are like, oh my gosh, and

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01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 1: you you have this impulse to to click on it

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01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: right away. But Weinstein is a true predator, and as

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Speaker 1: I was saying to you yesterday, this this span of

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Speaker 1: sexual misconduct, sexual harassment, sexual assault to rape, it needs

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01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: to be much more clearly defined when the media is

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01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 1: talking about some of this stuff, because Harvey Weinstein is

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01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 1: accused now of many criminal acts over over decades, and

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Speaker 1: that he was so powerful and prominent in this industry,

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01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 1: and at a time when you can find yourself you know,

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01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: reading or hearing the actual conversations of public figures because

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01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: everything is all shared and stored and right in this

1350
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:24,520
Speaker 1: new digital era, it's like the Panopticon, right, the Panopticon

1351
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 1: is this conceptual prison where everybody is in this circle

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01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: and there's in the center of the panopticon a a

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01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 1: tower with a guard and you can't see in, but

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01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 1: there's a guard in the tower, and everybody has an

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01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 1: open cell around the tower. It's kind of hard to explain,

1356
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: so much easy, more easy to visualize. The idea being

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01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: you never know if you're being watched, and you have

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01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 1: no privacy, so you have to always assume you are

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Speaker 1: being watched by the guards. And and that's really the

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Speaker 1: reality of our modern digital era now, I mean the

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Speaker 1: last certainly in the case the last ten or fifteen years.

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Speaker 1: And in that world where everyone's got phones and cameras,

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01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: no one said anything, you know, I think that and

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01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 1: this is I know, like you're like Bock, We've heard

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01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 1: a lot of this, and I think Hollywood is is

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01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 1: an industry that is really ready for disruption. And maybe

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Speaker 1: there's an argument to be made that the reason that

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01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 1: Weinstein is now being fed to the lions in this way,

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Speaker 1: and I mean and rightfully so, But I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: the reason that now everyone's like, oh and it's all

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Speaker 1: coming out, it's because Hollywood isn't what it used to be.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's a part of all of this. Uh, this

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Speaker 1: very self dealing and who you know, insular industry that

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Speaker 1: has this global impact. Yeah, I think why exactly. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of it has been coasting on

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01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 1: legacy and some of the big studios and the big

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Speaker 1: institutions and a lot of the big names, big directors,

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01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 1: big actors, all this stuff that's now in a pier

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01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 1: where I think it will change because you can go

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01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 1: direct act to your audience so much more easily now,

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01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:08,799
Speaker 1: and the technology to make really high quality movies TV shows,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's more, you know, there's there's more amazing

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Speaker 1: TV shows now than any other period in history. I mean,

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01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: I think that's that's pretty clear. But you know, you

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01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 1: look at what's you look at what's going on with

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01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 1: all this, and all the different pieces are happening once.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like this is I think Hollywood is

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Speaker 1: actually never really going to be the same. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: I think that the entertainment industry, which is one of

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Speaker 1: the American when one of our global exports that is

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Speaker 1: most you know, around the world associated with US. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've got the most big kick button military on the planet.

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Speaker 1: But people also think of Hollywood and now Silicon Value

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01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: though there are other Silicon Valley clones that are that

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01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 1: have been popping up for years all over the world,

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Speaker 1: particularly India and China. But are the the entertainment industry,

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Speaker 1: which is really also a wing of the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you think about in that context, the

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Speaker 1: propaganda machine is never really going to be quite the same. Uh,

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Speaker 1: their ability to have a to be influence influencers in

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Speaker 1: the realm of ideas and policy. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it will. It certainly won't be the same anytime soon

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01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: because any claim to righteousness and and all that, I

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Speaker 1: can barely watch. You know, Molly likes the fashion so

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01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 1: occasion'll watch a little bit the award show with her,

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01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 1: and you know, I gotta keep the lady happy. But

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Speaker 1: you know, you watch these award shows, there's so much

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01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 1: self congratulation and oh, I mean they they're up there

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Speaker 1: on stage, they're all so highly paid and and so famous,

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01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 1: and it's like they're curing cancer, but actually they're just

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Speaker 1: pretending to be people in front of cameras and lecturing

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Speaker 1: us on any number of issues or whether it's race relations,

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Speaker 1: police violence, the military, rock has, climate change. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so much of particularly the the the ignorant voter class,

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Speaker 1: if you will, Those who are an other hosts refer

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Speaker 1: to them as what low information voters, But those who

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01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: are just swept up in the culture in a superficial

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01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 1: way are so influenced by this industry that has at

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Speaker 1: the very top people like Harvey Weinstein, who were just mean.

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Speaker 1: The guy is it's a It's amazing that one of

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Speaker 1: these incidents was was kept under wraps. And there's like

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Speaker 1: fifty or sixty or maybe a hunter I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: Now there's one who's the director to James Toback, right,

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01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: there's there's some director right now? Who there there are

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Speaker 1: And look, I'm just reporting. I'm just reporting on the

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01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 1: allegations in the media. But there are hundreds, hundreds, over

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Speaker 1: three hundred, Tyrone tells me over three hundred sexual misconduct, harassment,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. Allegations from another You know, this guy is

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Speaker 1: a Academy Award winning uh or Academy Award nominated writer

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Speaker 1: and director, and you know, it's just it's so sordid,

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01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: and it was kept secret for so long. And for

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Speaker 1: those of us who see and I'm gonna try to

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01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:18,679
Speaker 1: tie in some other things for those of us who

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01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:23,719
Speaker 1: see the media and the effort to create a certain

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01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 1: perception of not just Hillary Clinton in the Democrat Party,

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01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 1: but specifically in this issue of Russia, all the stuff

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01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: that's been coming out. And I think there's an initial

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01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 1: impulse that many of us have, which is, well, there's

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01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 1: so many people on this and their professionals, and they

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01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 1: can't be completely making this stuff up, right, I mean,

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01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 1: they can't actually be fake news on the biggest, most

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Speaker 1: important issues of our time in such a widespread And

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01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: as I'm saying this, I know you're like, actually, like,

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01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 1: yes they can. Yeah, I know. But you know, there's

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01:23:54,520 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 1: that party that wants to believe that we we can't have, oh,

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01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 1: we we can't have an industry that's so important with

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01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 1: so many people, where truth is so debased and devalued,

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01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: so that you really can't trust incredibly powerful narratives because

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01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 1: you think that they're there playing games. And you see

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Speaker 1: that Hollywood's ability to suppress these store and it was

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01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 1: I mean, these actors knew about open secret. You keep

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01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 1: hearing this open secret, you know it was, it was

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01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 1: out there, and yet nobody did anything and no one

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01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:33,600
Speaker 1: really said anything. And you know, the control of the

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01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 1: media there was was incredible. It just goes to show

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01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 1: you what politicization really is. Also you know what that

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01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,719
Speaker 1: means and what power, what real power in the media

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01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 1: industry looks like. And and then you you just transpose

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Speaker 1: the Weinstein effect. And I'm not talking about the sexual

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Speaker 1: raspment aspects of it, although there's that, and the sexual

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01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 1: mistconduct and assaults, although that's a part of the news

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Speaker 1: business too, but just the ability to suppress what is

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Speaker 1: a major national level story because people that are tasked,

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01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 1: who are obligated, who have an ethical obligation to tell

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01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 1: that story, just won't do it. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: do it, don't want to hear it, don't believe it,

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01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 1: or are willing to hide it. With all of that,

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01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: you just want to stop and think to yourself, you

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01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 1: know what, what is what? What is the truth of

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01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,640
Speaker 1: the whole RuSHA thing? I mean, we've started to get

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Speaker 1: something I've been talking to you about at this show

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01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 1: and continuously on the show. We've seen some very interesting

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01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:40,839
Speaker 1: new bits of this puzzle, new pieces in this puzzle.

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01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 1: But I can get a lot worse. As I said yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Um this this looks like harnessing of the intelligence community

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01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: to do opposition research on a presidential candidate. And it

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01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 1: was all started by the Democrat Party of the d

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Speaker 1: n C. That's astonishing. If you try I just sell

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01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 1: that screenplay in Hollywood, I think they'd say it is

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Speaker 1: not believable. It is. It is not something that you

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01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 1: could easily sell because people would say that it just

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01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 1: doesn't seem realistic. But that increasingly looks like what happens.

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01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: So anyway, it's just the power of political of suppressing

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01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 1: the truth for political reasons or for reasons of power

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01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 1: within an industry. Both of those things apply. Because keep

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Speaker 1: you mine, we keep Hollywood is a This is why

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01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 1: my I'm jumping back and forth between these two. Hollywood

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01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 1: is for all intents and purposes, it's like a pack

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Speaker 1: for the Democratic Party. It is a leftist political action committee.

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01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 1: Over overwhelmingly and clearly it's the biggest a t M

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Speaker 1: for Democrats running for office. Go out to Hollywood, right

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01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 1: and so that it's so sordid and so corrupt and

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01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 1: so uh infected with this immorality and this lack of courage.

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01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 1: You can't separate that from the never at a party.

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01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 1: But you also can't separate if they can keep the

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Speaker 1: Weinstein thing quiet in Hollywood, first of all, they can

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01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 1: keep a lot of other stuff quiet there too, which

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01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 1: I think we still may find out more about that,

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01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, Moore's coming out and a lot

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01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 1: more is gonna be coming out. But then also on

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01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 1: the media side of it, with this, forget about an important,

1502
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 1: powerful director with the Clinton's, with Hillary Clinton, who was

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01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 1: very much like Weinstein, able to determine the rise and

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01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 1: fall of a journalist's career, very much like Weinstein, could

1505
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 1: be the reason you get hired at a major network

1506
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: at a big contract. Get what we're journalists willing to

1507
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 1: do and still willing to do to cover up for

1508
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 1: the Clintons and for Russia, and for I think the

1509
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 1: answer is a lot. I think that if we ever

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01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 1: really get the full picture, it is just going to

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01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,640
Speaker 1: h It is gonna go off like some kind of

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01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 1: political nuclear bomb. I mean, it's gonna be madness. That's

1513
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 1: just my sense going into the weekend, we'll heit a

1514
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 1: quick break your team, we'll be right back. Separatism in Spain,

1515
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: my friends, Uh, this is this is going to be.

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01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: This is gonna get very sticky, very quickly. It's gonna

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01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 1: be a tough, a tough situation for Spain. Now, before

1518
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: I talk about Catalonia and what's happening there, let me

1519
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 1: just first say why do you it's it's before your reaking.

1520
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 1: Why do you care? There are two main ways that

1521
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 1: I think I can make a case for you to

1522
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 1: care about Catalonia for the for the short discussion we're

1523
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 1: gonna have here on the show about it. One is,

1524
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 1: I know you all like to know stuff and I

1525
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 1: like to know stuff, and so we're just knowing stuff together.

1526
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 1: So there's so I guess that's there's actually three ways. Um, well, no,

1527
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 1: that let we'll call that one of the two because

1528
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 1: there's an interesting philosophical discussion that has to do with

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01:28:56,120 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 1: when is a group uh right to say that we

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01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 1: are going to separate off and do our own thing right.

1531
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 1: There's an interesting philosophical discussion that is, when when are

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01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:09,600
Speaker 1: we able to be you know, when is it the

1533
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 1: declaration of independence versus when is it you know, Abraham

1534
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 1: Lincoln in the Civil War? Right, I mean you know

1535
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: what which we were. We're a country that's been on

1536
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:22,600
Speaker 1: both sides of this. Separating is our duty? Whoa no

1537
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:26,679
Speaker 1: separational out? Sorry, A divided house cannot stand. House divided

1538
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 1: against itself cannot stand. So there's that philosophical aspect of it.

1539
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 1: And then for those of you who are more like

1540
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 1: well black, I want to know how this tangibly could

1541
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 1: have impact on things. If you're somebody who cares about

1542
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 1: the stock market, at the economy, the way that growth

1543
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,720
Speaker 1: is going to go and and finances are going to go,

1544
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 1: the financial markets are gonna go in Europe, which very

1545
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 1: much affects us here. This could be uh contagious, right,

1546
01:29:56,479 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 1: Secessionism in Europe could be contagious in that it's not

1547
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 1: just Catalonia. There, there's the there's the Basque region of Spain,

1548
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 1: there's uh, there's some parts of the Low countries, the

1549
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 1: Netherlands in Belgium and Flanders wants to maybe get its

1550
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 1: own state going. And you could see this break up

1551
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 1: into these smaller statelets that that will have some disruptive

1552
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 1: effect on the markets. And I do think also that

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01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:23,600
Speaker 1: people in this country, and this is what something you

1554
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 1: may really care about. May see this and be like, well, look,

1555
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 1: if Catalonia is able to become its own country, why

1556
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 1: can't California. And the answer is so far because we

1557
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: say so, we being a majority of the American people

1558
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 1: in the federal government. I'm sure a majority of California's too.

1559
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 1: If they figured out how much they would be out

1560
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 1: of luck without the federal government picking up a lot

1561
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 1: of expenses in the in the taffric California, I think

1562
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 1: they would rethink their secessionist impulse, which I know is

1563
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:00,160
Speaker 1: a very small but it always comes up, especially after

1564
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 1: a Republican wins the presidential election. They'll be these stories,

1565
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, California move into secede or whatever. Yeah, right,

1566
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 1: it's never never gonna happen. It also would mean that

1567
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 1: Republicans win every national political election for the next you know,

1568
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 1: onwenty or thirty years. But here's what happened in Catalonia,

1569
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 1: just to update you on the facts of it, and

1570
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 1: then we'll talk a little more about why you should care.

1571
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 1: Like I said, this is quick. Let's not even deep dive.

1572
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 1: This is like a plunge in the shallow into the

1573
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:29,639
Speaker 1: pool on Catalonia. This from the Associated or a Jents

1574
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 1: France Press a f P. Spain was plunged into crisis

1575
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 1: Friday as Madrid sees power from independent seeking Catalonia, the

1576
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 1: first curtailment of regional autonomy since the brutal dictatorship of

1577
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 1: Francisco Franco. After regional lawmakers voter to declared a Catalan republic,

1578
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 1: Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy moved swiftly to dissolve the

1579
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 1: rebel government in parliament and called a December twenty one

1580
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 1: election to place them in an escalating standoff closely watched

1581
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:07,680
Speaker 1: by secession whary europe. ROI fired pro independence leader Carlos

1582
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 1: Weedmont and all his ministers, as well as the director

1583
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 1: of the regional police and Catalan envoys to Madrid and

1584
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 1: Brussels to heart to halt what he termed an escalation

1585
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 1: of disobedience the session. As lawmakers voted seventy to ten

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01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:28,520
Speaker 1: in the thirty five member parliament Friday to declare Catalonia

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01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 1: a republic in the form of an independent and sovereign state.

1588
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 1: Now you know, it's why why can't they do this?

1589
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 1: Because the central government says it's not legal. Well, of

1590
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 1: course the central government's gonna say that, right are they

1591
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 1: are they declaring that the referendum is non void because

1592
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 1: of irregularities or because of coercion, because of pressure. You know,

1593
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 1: that would be the case with Crimea, which had a referendum.

1594
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 1: But there was all kinds of symbols and and all

1595
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 1: kinds of UH signifiers, a foul play at work there,

1596
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 1: and you know that's that's a whole other part of

1597
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 1: this discussion. But you can have a sham referendum. But

1598
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 1: no one's really saying that this is a sham. They're

1599
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 1: just saying that. The Spanish government at least is just saying, sorry,

1600
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 1: you don't, you don't get to do this. This is

1601
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 1: gonna be you know, the Republic of Bukkistan may have

1602
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 1: to happen. I mean, that would would be a fantastic country.

1603
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 1: Everybody would be required to own an English bulldog, and

1604
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 1: sweatpants would be allowed at all workplaces and and all

1605
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 1: formal functions. We would replace UH office where with with sweatpants.

1606
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:40,719
Speaker 1: So the Republic of Bukkistan would be a really fun place.

1607
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 1: But on on on a serious note, here, what happens

1608
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:48,559
Speaker 1: if the Kindalans say, you know what, We're just no, sorry,

1609
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 1: Spain not not gonna play ball on this. What could

1610
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: the long term implications mean Nobody, Nobody really knows. The

1611
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 1: assumption is that you won't have these separatist groups, or

1612
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 1: the sum has just been that the separatist groups will

1613
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:03,759
Speaker 1: have to bend to the will of the central government.

1614
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 1: But maybe not in this case. And what does it

1615
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 1: mean for Scotland, What does it mean for Flanders? What

1616
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:11,760
Speaker 1: does it mean for who knows? I wonder what the

1617
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 1: most likely state right now would be to try and

1618
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 1: succeed if that were to if there was a poll take,

1619
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 1: and I'd be curious to see it. We're gonna have

1620
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 1: un talk to you a little bit about cartels and

1621
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:25,559
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna talk to you about Team Box Speaks

1622
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:27,559
Speaker 1: coming right up, so stay with me for that on

1623
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 1: this freestyle Friday. You know when you watch a movie

1624
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:33,559
Speaker 1: and you go back and you watch it a second

1625
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 1: time and you actually pay attention, You you get more

1626
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 1: out of it, or you think that maybe it's a

1627
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 1: little better than the first time around. I have been

1628
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 1: watching Cicaro. I watched Cicario last night, which is a

1629
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 1: movie with Josh Brolin and Veneiciel del Toro and uh,

1630
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 1: Emily Blunt, and it's all about cartels and US Mexico border.

1631
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:59,600
Speaker 1: It's a bleak and an intense movie. I hadn't seen it,

1632
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 1: but I seeing it kind of late, or or I'd

1633
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 1: come into it late and honestly got distracted and wasn't

1634
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 1: paying very close attention when I had initially seen it.

1635
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:09,120
Speaker 1: And so I went back and I just was thinking

1636
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:12,800
Speaker 1: about how there is there is not really for me,

1637
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:19,680
Speaker 1: at least, a definitive work of well fiction would be

1638
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 1: perhaps not the perfect term for it, because it would

1639
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 1: want to be you wanted to be something that was

1640
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 1: based very much in the reality. There's nothing that's dealt

1641
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 1: with the full scale and scope of the Mexican drug

1642
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 1: cartels in a way that is really iconic. And I

1643
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:36,679
Speaker 1: find that a little surprising. I mean, there's been movies,

1644
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 1: and there was a movie Savage I think was called,

1645
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:42,800
Speaker 1: which I thought was bad. Um, and then this movie

1646
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:44,320
Speaker 1: is a Car, which not a great movie, but it's

1647
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:47,760
Speaker 1: pretty good. But also I would like to do more.

1648
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 1: And I suppose this is me putting out a a

1649
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:53,840
Speaker 1: request to all of you, which is that if you

1650
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 1: know of and if there's a series or a show

1651
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 1: that I'm not thinking of that's really good and really

1652
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 1: fact base. I mean, it doesn't have to be altered,

1653
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be a reality show, right, but

1654
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 1: if it's really fact based on the cartels, it's such

1655
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 1: a fascinating subject matter. And I think especially as we

1656
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:15,599
Speaker 1: see the discussion heat up over the border wall, and

1657
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:18,839
Speaker 1: it came up in the in the context of Trump's

1658
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 1: opioid UH discussion earlier this week. Which is that, which

1659
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 1: is that there's gonna be um the and there's gonna

1660
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 1: be these walls going up, and then if we stop

1661
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 1: the heroin coming across Ty says at Narco season three,

1662
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 1: which I've heard is great, is a very But is

1663
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 1: that Mexican cartels or is that I thought it was

1664
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 1: Colombian stuff? Okay, there there, So that makes that's it's

1665
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 1: just I didn't know this, and tes telling this on

1666
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 1: air that makes sense because this is subject matter they

1667
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 1: were from. Uh. I forget what the years were, but

1668
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 1: basically during the vincent A. Fox period when he was

1669
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:56,720
Speaker 1: a president of Mexico, fifty people killed in the drug war.

1670
01:36:56,760 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 1: I mean, the the the number of casualties staggering and

1671
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 1: Al Qaeda level and style of violence and tape beheadings

1672
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 1: and torture. I mean, it's just and the government was

1673
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:11,879
Speaker 1: covering it up and they were involved in there's corruption,

1674
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:14,400
Speaker 1: and there's just nothing that's really I know there's some

1675
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 1: shows like Breaking Bad deals with it a little bit

1676
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 1: and and uh, but the next season of Narcos that

1677
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 1: makes it. The next season of Narcos is gonna be

1678
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:26,759
Speaker 1: about the Mexican cartels because there's nothing that has really

1679
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 1: captured it yet. There's not something I can point to.

1680
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 1: And I've a was also thinking about how if I

1681
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 1: was looking for my and this is my request of

1682
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 1: Tie answer the TV request for me, which is that

1683
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 1: I gotta wait for the next season of Narcos on Netflix.

1684
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 1: But if there's a book that is a real soup

1685
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 1: to nuts in depth, this is the story of the

1686
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 1: Mexican drug cartels that you need to know, I want

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Speaker 1: to read it, uh, and I want to know what

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01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:56,639
Speaker 1: it is. I don't know anybody who's who's written that

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01:37:56,720 --> 01:38:00,080
Speaker 1: book quite yet, so I'm wondering if it's being it

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01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 1: right now because there's enough of there's there's certainly enough

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01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 1: subject matter, but also I think there's been a bit

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01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:08,680
Speaker 1: of a lull and so if someone was doing research

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01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:11,160
Speaker 1: on this topic, maybe now or in the next year

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01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 1: to two is when a book would come out. But

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01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:15,599
Speaker 1: he has played. So I mean, the Mexican drug cartels

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01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:19,639
Speaker 1: have been such I have had such an effect on

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Speaker 1: our security, I mean on the US homeland, on the

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01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 1: drug trade, on on murder, on organized crime, on prostitution

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01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 1: and human smogments. And we have such a greater focus

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01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:34,679
Speaker 1: in the media on terrorism that's like jee hottest terrorism,

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01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 1: which I understand, but the terrorism from the cartels is

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01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 1: much closer, much closer to home on a day in,

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01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:43,720
Speaker 1: day out basis. So yeah, it's just a thought that

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01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 1: I had as was watching Cicario and uh, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do Team Buck speaks coming up here in just a second,

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01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 1: So stay with me as always, Team It has been

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01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 1: a great freestyle Friday here in the Freedom Hunt with you. Um,

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01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:58,559
Speaker 1: I would ask if you don't mind, please do check

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01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,839
Speaker 1: out the podcast of this show Bucks Exton with American

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01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 1: Now on iTunes. You can also check out the Stansbury

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01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 1: Investor Our if you want to hear a bit about

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01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 1: the world of finance. I co host that show with

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01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 1: Porter Stansbury, who's the founder of Stansbury Research. And I'm

1714
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:17,680
Speaker 1: learning a lot, I can tell you from all of

1715
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:20,679
Speaker 1: the exposure to the world of markets, and that's where

1716
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 1: I first got interested in in bitcoin, which we will

1717
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:26,080
Speaker 1: be doing a deep dive on in the near future.

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01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 1: So Stansbury Investor Hour on iTunes. Subscribe to that as well.

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01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 1: They're both free. I'd love for you to give them,

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01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 1: give a second one a shot, and hopefully you're already

1721
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 1: subscribed to Buck Sexton with American Now, okay, Team I

1722
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 1: feel like it's Friday. We're about to go off from

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01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:48,960
Speaker 1: the weekend in his time four Team Bucks Speaks. Let's

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01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,559
Speaker 1: start with and I just want to know that I

1725
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:54,720
Speaker 1: will pick out funny ones as much as I can,

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01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:58,639
Speaker 1: and I'm also willing to pick out ones that are critical,

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01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 1: but they just can't be like mean critical, right, Like

1728
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not going to read something on air that

1729
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 1: has profanity, for example, So some of those get cut out.

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01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,639
Speaker 1: But I do appreciate all of the kind, thoughtful and

1731
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:17,639
Speaker 1: constructive messages that I get on fakesbook dot Com slash

1732
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:20,839
Speaker 1: buck Sexton. All right, let's start with on Team buck Speaks,

1733
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 1: we have Rick writing the following, I swear we are

1734
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 1: so in sync in our viewpoints that I feel we

1735
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:30,759
Speaker 1: must have been separated at birth. I wish my fellow

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01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:35,479
Speaker 1: faculty members in psychology had your sound view on human behavior. Well, Rick,

1737
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:38,840
Speaker 1: thank you. I like to think that I am a

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01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:43,320
Speaker 1: keen observer. I am first and foremost an analyst by trade,

1739
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 1: and an analyst really in all things. In fact, I

1740
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 1: could probably be rightfully accused of overthinking a lot of things,

1741
01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:57,760
Speaker 1: including different periods in my private life. So yes, I'm

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01:40:56,920 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 1: it's it is possible. I suppose scientifically that we were

1743
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:01,559
Speaker 1: separated at birth. I don't know how old you are,

1744
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:05,920
Speaker 1: but thank you so much for your kind remarks. Cindy

1745
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:08,800
Speaker 1: and Rob got a joint Facebook account here. I like

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01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:13,600
Speaker 1: you guys. Here's what they write. Despite the deliberate obfuscation

1747
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 1: and facetiousness, good word of the M S M and

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01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 1: establishment ruling class. Is it possible that Putent agreed to

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01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 1: pay Fusion GPS to assist with the compilation of the

1750
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 1: dossier to help Hillary win the presidency because he knew

1751
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:35,320
Speaker 1: he could use the uranium scandal and clinton involvement in it,

1752
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:39,600
Speaker 1: to force reversal of the Magnitsky sanctions, the sanctions that

1753
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:46,120
Speaker 1: supposedly have a great deal of Russian wealth under severe restrictions. Um,

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01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:49,839
Speaker 1: I think that's a little bit of a stretch, Cindy

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01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:52,599
Speaker 1: and Rob. But I will say when it comes to

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01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:57,600
Speaker 1: the Russia investigations, we are certainly living in a in

1757
01:41:57,680 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 1: a bizarre world where more and more where it seems

1758
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:04,799
Speaker 1: like not everything is possible, but a lot is possible

1759
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 1: that we would not have thought before. So I know

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01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 1: that's not that's kind of a non answer answer, which sometimes,

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01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 1: unfortunately is the best I can offer up. But I

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01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 1: think that's a that's a bit much, a little a

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01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:20,400
Speaker 1: little too there's there would be a little too much foresight.

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01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 1: And I always remember that when a when a theory

1765
01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 1: involves many layers of perfect knowledge, when a conspiracy theory

1766
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 1: involves the individuals having to know next steps that there's

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01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 1: no way they could when they were planning. Actually no,

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01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 1: it's usually a good sign that conspiracy is a little

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01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 1: bit too convenient and doesn't really hold together. Just putting

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01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 1: that out there. Uh, Brian, second time I heard you

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01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:53,439
Speaker 1: use the phrase clutching pearls makes me laugh every time.

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01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:56,280
Speaker 1: God bless and thank you. Thanks for everything you do.

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01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:59,559
Speaker 1: I've learned more from your deep dives and Buck Briefs

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01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:03,679
Speaker 1: then I learned in eighteen years of school. Well, Brian,

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01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:07,879
Speaker 1: that is very kind. I uh, I'm going to continue

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01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 1: with the deep dives and the Buck Briefs. And I

1777
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:12,920
Speaker 1: like that people who listen to the show, I feel

1778
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 1: like that the research that goes into it, which is

1779
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:21,880
Speaker 1: just me reading, taking notes, writing, and speaking to people

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01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:24,799
Speaker 1: I know who are experts and sources of mine. I'm

1781
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:27,720
Speaker 1: so glad that that is useful to all, to you

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01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 1: and to others who are listening. And it's a constant

1783
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 1: motivation for me to come up and do a different show.

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01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 1: And I do a very different show. I think any

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01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:38,719
Speaker 1: of you who listened to this than what you'll get

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01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:42,960
Speaker 1: from most, if not all other radio shows out there. Right.

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01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:46,000
Speaker 1: I mean there's some similarities cover news the day, but

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01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 1: beyond and I'm I cover news of the day and

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01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm a conservative. Beyond that, I think that it's a

1790
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 1: very different show than you get with most other hosts. Um,

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01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 1: they're wonderful things that other hosts are doing too, but

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01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 1: I have I have my own in my own style.

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01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:04,640
Speaker 1: I think here in the Hut, Tom, but thank you

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01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:07,919
Speaker 1: for your kind words. Tom writes in with the following,

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01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 1: and remember this is at facebook dot com slash buck Sexton. Uh,

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Speaker 1: forget the dog, get a mini pig, l o l

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01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:19,519
Speaker 1: smarter than dogs and the cognitive abilities of a three

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Speaker 1: year old. This is Johnny Walker. Yes, he's named after

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01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 1: my favorite whiskey. And Tom sent me a photo of

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Speaker 1: a very adorable pet pig who I now know is

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Speaker 1: named Johnny Walker. So Tom, thank you for the suggestion.

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Speaker 1: I had. My little sister at one point was thinking

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Speaker 1: about the possibility of getting a micro pig. And micro

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01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:46,320
Speaker 1: pigs are tiny right there, like teacup pigs. I don't know, yeah,

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01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 1: I think they're called micro pigs, but they are also

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01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 1: a thinker called tea cup pigs. And we were thinking

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01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 1: about it and my mother at the time, this is

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01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:55,760
Speaker 1: many years ago, it was like no way. And and

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01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 1: then you have to deal with New York City regulation

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01:44:58,120 --> 01:45:02,680
Speaker 1: as well as building regulations, and New York City, for example,

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01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 1: does not even allow you to have a hedgehog. I

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01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 1: was thinking a little while ago, you know, maybe that

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01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 1: would be a nice kind of midway pet to have.

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01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 1: You know, I've got a little little outdoor area here

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01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 1: where he could hang out. And you know, I feel

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01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 1: like that would be a because I need a warm

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01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 1: blooded animal. I cannot be somebody who has a pet snake. Look,

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01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 1: if that's your thing, that's fine, But pet snake, pet tarantula,

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01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:32,240
Speaker 1: pet lizard, reptile, that's not. That's not for me. I

1820
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:36,759
Speaker 1: just I need fur and I need warm blooded animal

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01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:38,679
Speaker 1: that I can bond with if it's gonna be my pet.

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01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:43,679
Speaker 1: But hedgehogs are considered an exotic pet in New York State.

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01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:45,719
Speaker 1: You can't have them, or at least in New York City,

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01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 1: maybe not New York State, you know, allow to have them.

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Speaker 1: And I think it was so unfair. For years on

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01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 1: that show Friends, you had that guy Ross played by

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01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:57,960
Speaker 1: David Swimmer, who lived in the West Village where I

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01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 1: actually lived at one point, and he had this really

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01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 1: cute monkey. Let me tell you something, There is no

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01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:06,280
Speaker 1: building that I know of a New York City where

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01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:08,760
Speaker 1: you would be allowed to have a pet monkey. And

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01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:12,840
Speaker 1: beyond that, if Animal Services or whatever it's called, your

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01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:15,720
Speaker 1: health and hygiene, I forget what the Bureau would be

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01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:18,719
Speaker 1: found out about it. I think it's a very steep

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01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:22,599
Speaker 1: fine for having an exotic animal like that without a license.

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01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 1: But it made me think for a while, Hey, maybe

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01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 1: I could have a pet monkey one day too. But

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01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:29,559
Speaker 1: I've been around monkeys, I will say I've I've spent

1839
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 1: some time with pet monkeys abroad as a little bit

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01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:36,959
Speaker 1: here in the States, mostly abroad, and they're mischievous little fellows.

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01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 1: You know. You think, oh, they're so cute, but they

1842
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 1: have attitude, and they'll take things from you just for

1843
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:46,799
Speaker 1: the fun of it. They'll throw things at you. Monkeys

1844
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:50,760
Speaker 1: are They're a handful. And once you get into chimpanzee territory,

1845
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:53,680
Speaker 1: now you're talking about an animal that has a very

1846
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 1: high level of intelligence and problem solving as well as

1847
01:46:57,360 --> 01:47:00,160
Speaker 1: emotional intelligence, and it's a lot stronger than you are

1848
01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:03,360
Speaker 1: and has really big sharp teeth. People don't ever think

1849
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:05,639
Speaker 1: about that with chimpanzeeze. Well maybe they do now because

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01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 1: of some recent stories. Anyway, you get me talking about

1851
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:12,560
Speaker 1: exotic pets, I get all excited. T Cup pigs or

1852
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 1: micro pigs not allowed in New York City either. It's

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01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:19,639
Speaker 1: considered a farm animal and you can't have them inside

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01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 1: city limits. So I like your idea, Tom, and your

1855
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:25,839
Speaker 1: pig is adorable, but I can't actually have one myself.

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01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 1: Jennifer writes in with this buck, I'm a patent attorney

1857
01:47:31,040 --> 01:47:33,959
Speaker 1: and I've got good news for you. The Happy Birthday

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01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 1: song is in the public domain. The copyright case settled

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01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:41,280
Speaker 1: last year for fourteen million and included an acknowledgement that

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01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:44,679
Speaker 1: the song is available to all. So sing it, my man,

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01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:47,200
Speaker 1: you won't be sued. I'll be over here waiting to

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01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:51,280
Speaker 1: hear it. In Hillary's melodic voice. Well, Jennifer, thank you

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01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:54,200
Speaker 1: for the update and sharing your expertise. I need to

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01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:57,400
Speaker 1: check this out myself because I just do not want

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01:47:57,400 --> 01:48:00,480
Speaker 1: to be in a position where I get some rediculous

1866
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:04,599
Speaker 1: bill in the mail for singing a song on air.

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01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 1: It's completely outrageous to me. I mean, the don't even

1868
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:12,240
Speaker 1: get me started on our whole copyright our whole copyright

1869
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:15,559
Speaker 1: situation in this country, which is it's supposed to be

1870
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:19,479
Speaker 1: a balance between the state protecting your intellectual property but

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01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:23,880
Speaker 1: also the public being able to use it. And you know,

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01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:26,839
Speaker 1: once we get to like a hundred years, fifty sixty

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01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:29,559
Speaker 1: seventy years, whatever it is, things need to pass into

1874
01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:33,240
Speaker 1: the public domain. It should not be Oh, I would

1875
01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:35,760
Speaker 1: love to print this book that was written in you know,

1876
01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 1: but it's you know, it's still copyrighted. Uh. People say,

1877
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 1: oh book, what about Yeah, there are limits, there are

1878
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:45,720
Speaker 1: time limits. It's supposed to eventually be public domain. It

1879
01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:50,439
Speaker 1: should not be traded like private like like perpetual private

1880
01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:53,120
Speaker 1: property of the mind. I just came up with that

1881
01:48:53,200 --> 01:48:55,320
Speaker 1: on the spot. I kind of liked it. Jennifer right

1882
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:57,519
Speaker 1: now is I'm sure shaking her head side to side

1883
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 1: because she's a patent attorney saying, oh, he he has

1884
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 1: so much to learn on this. But that's how I feel.

1885
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:06,439
Speaker 1: And as we know from Democrats, however, you feel that's

1886
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:09,840
Speaker 1: all you need. You don't need knowledge. Uh. Robert writes

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01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:11,920
Speaker 1: in with the following, this is what D and I

1888
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,960
Speaker 1: Clapper is saying, the intelligence community was commondeered by the

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01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:18,760
Speaker 1: Clinton campaign to do OPO research on Trump. Quote he's

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01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 1: quoting me here. Brilliant, simple, simply brilliant Clappers, right, and

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Speaker 1: you're right, Well, thank you, Robert. I did think that

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Speaker 1: was a a good point of analysis yesterday on the show. Again,

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Speaker 1: it's this is what I said, that the intelligence community

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Speaker 1: was commondered by the Clinton campaign to do APO research

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Speaker 1: on Trump. I think there's a very strong case that

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Speaker 1: that is in fact, what happened. Um Nicholas writes in

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Speaker 1: with this, Hey Buck, I love your show, brother, and

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Speaker 1: I'm so thankful we have someone to represent us with

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Speaker 1: such character. My question is in regards to Stephen Paddock

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Speaker 1: last night. You broach the topic at the end of

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Speaker 1: the show, and I would have liked to hear what

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01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:58,599
Speaker 1: you thought about the lack of information we have been

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01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:00,800
Speaker 1: provided on the people in the crowd out who said

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Speaker 1: that everyone was going to die tonight, and how he

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Speaker 1: was able to get that many weapons in his room.

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Speaker 1: We still don't have an answer for much at this point.

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Speaker 1: Take care of my friend. Thank you for your time

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Speaker 1: and opinion. Uh well, Nicholas, I don't have much to

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Speaker 1: add to this because we don't have much in the

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Speaker 1: way of new information. I think getting the weapons into

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Speaker 1: his room is just a function of hiding among the

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Speaker 1: crowd and taking large rolling bags into the room. That

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Speaker 1: that's not surprising to me, and they wouldn't They don't

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Speaker 1: check your luggage, they don't go there's no metal detectors,

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Speaker 1: nothing like that. So I don't think that's that crazy

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Speaker 1: that he would have, given how meticulous he was in

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Speaker 1: the planning, that he perhaps did this over a period

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Speaker 1: of time by himself. And then you also asked about

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Speaker 1: the people yelling in the someone yelling at the crowd

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Speaker 1: that everyone's gonna die that night. I agree, it's very strange,

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Speaker 1: and I brought it up at the time, but it

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Speaker 1: may in fact be And I know some of you

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Speaker 1: think this is a weak explanation, but maybe it can.

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Speaker 1: It made us be a coincidence. Sometimes that is what happens.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I've got for you. There, d K

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Speaker 1: writes in the following original Saturday Team Buck member here

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Speaker 1: yes on the blockchain deep dive, d K, we are

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Speaker 1: making that happen to my friend, Jeremy writes in Buck,

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Speaker 1: I took your advice and downloaded Stansbury Investor Our podcast

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Speaker 1: thanks a trillion dollars in student loan debt. Well, Jeremy,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you checked it out, and I hope others

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Speaker 1: listening will give the Stansbury Investor Our a shot. It's

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Speaker 1: a really fun conversation I have with the founder of

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Speaker 1: Stansbury Research, and you might learn a lot about markets

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Speaker 1: and finance because I'm really just there as a co

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Speaker 1: host and doing some politics and general commentary. They have

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Speaker 1: all these finance experts who come on I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't pretend to be a finance expert on that podcast

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Speaker 1: at all, because I'm not. So that's worth listening to.

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Speaker 1: It is worth listening to for me, I hope, but

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Speaker 1: I hope you'll give it a shot too. And with that,

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Speaker 1: I have to say that it is time for me

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Speaker 1: to head off for my weekend. MS. Molly has a sniffle,

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Speaker 1: so I don't think this is going to be the

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Speaker 1: most fun weekend ever. But I have promised to make

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Speaker 1: her some really good homemade chicken noodle soup um and maybe,

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Speaker 1: just maybe we'll go over and visit her family and

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Speaker 1: play with the pit bull mix that I am I

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Speaker 1: am in the process of bonding with. With that, I

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Speaker 1: will say to you have a fantastic weekend. I'll be

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Speaker 1: back with you on Monday. As always, no matter what

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Speaker 1: comes your way, no matter what happens in the next

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Speaker 1: few days. Shields High