WEBVTT - Asleep at the Wheel 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:14.520 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wike AF Daily with 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:18.600 Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, still recording from San Francisco 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:22.840 as Amicron takes control over New York and the country 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:25.400 for that matter, folks, I want to start off by 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.520 talking about, yes, the pandemic that we are not over 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:33.280 yet and actually are experiencing our fourth wave. You know, 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:36.559 it's really interesting to me sometimes when I have the 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:40.400 opportunity to be watching what is happening across the country 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:44.720 when I'm not usually at home right and so right now, 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:50.200 I am in um. I am in a place where 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:56.640 I came to San Francisco for a retreat. Everyone is 0:00:56.680 --> 0:01:00.480 testing every single day to make sure that we are 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:03.760 all safe and we can be together. What is a 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:09.400 parent right now about Omicron is that it is Hella 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:14.800 Hella contagious. It is making Alpha look like, oh, I 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.960 don't know, the Christmas fairy. It is incredible how fast 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:22.000 this is spreading. There are countless people that I know 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.920 who have been vaccinated, who have been boosted, who have 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:28.840 now been infected. And what I will say about this 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:32.880 is that my hope is that the death toll does 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.319 not begin to skyrocket. But we also have to understand 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.880 that twenty five percent of the fucking population still is 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:44.880 not vaccinated, and so if they are not vaccinated, right 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:48.120 and we have more virus that is in the air 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:51.080 that is spreading faster than we had ever seen before. 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.720 I mean, what do we think is going to happen? 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:58.200 How far down in the Greek alphabet are we looking 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:01.320 to get? And right now I look at the news 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:05.360 and I'm seeing lines at city mds, at health centers 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:08.000 in New York that are wrapped around the corner. And 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:12.480 I'm having PTSD from twenty twenty when I was standing 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:16.359 out in line for six hours in order to get tested. 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:21.080 It's insane. What is happening right now? There is a 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.400 lack of home testing kits, right, So that's number one. 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:27.959 That's something that we've never seen in mass production at 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:32.960 this particular point. Right now, we are the Governor of 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:36.960 New York is as saying that these health clinics need 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.839 to stay open for longer hours to make up now 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:43.320 for the demand that we are seeing once again. And 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:47.960 it is incredibly troubling. I cannot, folks, for the life 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:52.280 of me, wrap my mind and try and make sense 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:56.240 of the fact that if the right measures had been 0:02:56.280 --> 0:03:00.600 taken from the jump. If we had encouraged people to 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:04.320 take care of themselves, to wear masks, to social distance 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:08.640 as a patriotic act, as a neighborly act, if you 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.360 are a religious person, as a religious act, like whatever 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:13.640 the fuck it was that we needed to do, that 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.880 the Trump administration needed to do as opposed to lying 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:19.440 to the public, as opposed to telling them that it 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.480 was a hoax and continuing to do so. I would 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.359 need to read you this thing. I pulled it up, 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.560 and I gotta tell you, I'm just so fucking sick 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:33.560 and tired of Republicans, of this white supremacist party, of 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.560 these anti fucking vaxers, of the fact that the FCC 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:40.880 won't shut down Fox News for spreading misinformation and causing 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.320 mass death, Like I'm just so tired of it. But 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:48.440 Robert F. Kennedy Junior, one of the biggest fucking anti 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:53.080 vaccine conspiracy theorists, who of course is a fucking grifter right, 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:57.360 has an anti vaccine group called Children's Health Defense, which, 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:01.200 by the way, according to the Politico, doubled its revenue 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:05.480 in twenty twenty to six point eight million dollars. Listen 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.040 to this piece of shit. He was having a holiday 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:12.000 party at his home in California, and this anti vaxer 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:17.280 sends out a virtual invite that ask people his guests 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:21.080 coming in to either get tested or get vaccinated. So 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.240 it's okay, right to make sure that his little circle 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:27.719 of friends is safe and good to come and spend 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.800 spread holiday cheer and not COVID at his home. But 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:33.120 when he has a microphone in front of him, when 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:36.440 he is on any news station, he says the complete 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:40.039 and total opposite, And of course, when called out on 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.360 his hypocrisy, he of course blames it on his wife 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:46.000 and says, oh, I guess I'm always the boss at 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:50.640 my own house, you asshole. When are these people going 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.240 to ever be held accountable for the fact that they've 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:56.719 caused over eight hundred thousand deaths? And yes, I'm saying 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:00.000 that they have caused over eight hundred thousand deaths because 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:04.400 as if millions of Americans weren't under the hypnotism of 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:09.360 Fox News and the right wing, then we wouldn't have 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:13.760 this pro this pro COVID movement right there wouldn't be 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:17.039 people saying that it's my liberty to spread disease right 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:21.839 in the same way. It's just I, folks, I'm outdone, 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.480 and I'm outdone because I'm watching friends of mine right 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:30.560 contract COVID who have done all of the right things. 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:35.760 But because now we have a variant that is evading vaccines, 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.360 we have a variant that is aggressive. Now. It may 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:41.719 not be aggressive as of right now in terms of 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.960 the symptoms that you are getting because you are vaccinated 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:48.119 and boosted, but that doesn't mean that it's not going 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:51.120 to mutate, because, as I keep saying, and as we 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:54.000 keep learning through the doctors that we have on bokay 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:58.039 f that that's what viruses do, and that the more 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.440 virus that is in the air, the more likely that 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:06.560 it will mutate. Right. I just want people to be 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:11.599 held responsible when they commit crimes. That's it. I want 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:15.600 them to be held responsible when it is crimes against 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:19.200 the nation the way I want. I want us to 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:24.440 handle white men the same way we do every other 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:28.680 fucking race, particularly black people, who are fucking innocent, who 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:32.800 are just trying to exist on this planet, in this country, 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.320 and who are not afforded the right to do so. 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:43.159 But these people, these arch villains, who are responsible for 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:47.960 spreading lines that have literally cost people their lives. Nothing 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.520 is happening to them, So why wouldn't they stop? Why 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.280 would they stop? They're able to grift off of it, 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:59.119 They're able to get fame off of it. What would 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:02.760 compel them to do anything? Why? Like, in the most 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:06.240 litigious society, why the fuck aren't these people being sued? 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.760 This is the question that I keep asking every single 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:15.040 day with no answer. You know, later in the show, 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:21.600 Glenn Kirshner rejoins us after being absent for a week 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.640 or so, And you know, I got to tell you 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:29.680 that Glenn over damn near now the past two years 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.840 has really been a beacon and a voice for justice 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:38.480 and hope. And Glenn, you will be able to hear 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:44.040 the frustration, the exasperation in his voice right as he 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:47.280 is like, I do not know what my former colleagues 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:49.680 at the Department of Justice are doing. I do not know. 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:54.040 He's like, I want to have blind faith right that 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:57.440 they are organizing and getting ready to do the right thing. 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:00.880 But folks, we've been sitting around for almost a year. 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:05.160 We are coming up on the year anniversary of the insurrection, 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.920 and there are only a handful of people that are 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.800 in jail right now, only a handful of people that 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.000 are in jail for a collection of a couple of 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:17.560 years for trying to overthrow the government. But those that 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.640 were the architects, the masterminds that created the blueprints and 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.680 the text chains and did all of the work, created 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:30.360 war rooms. They're selling books, they're selling shows, they're getting 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:35.840 anointed by CNN to take plumb positions. So tell me 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.480 again how it is that we're a nation that tells 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:42.040 little kids as we're raising them, be good, right, do 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:46.800 the right thing for what? Because in this country you're 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.720 rewarded for being bad. And the more that we see 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.120 that happen, the more that we see bad people be 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:57.320 rewarded and get to continually move up for doing the 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:03.920 wrong things right, then why would anybody else decide to 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:06.520 do the right thing? What? Just to pack themselves on 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:11.520 the back. You're not rewarded in this country for following 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:18.040 the rules. You're not rewarded for uplifting the constitution. You're 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:23.600 not celebrated for wanting to create more equity and justice. No, 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:27.600 you get a target on your back. You have colleagues 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.920 in Congress trying to literally kill each other, not each other. 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:35.880 Excuse me, Republicans in Congress, bragging and putting targets on 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:39.600 the backs of their Democratic colleagues because they don't like 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:43.000 their religion, they don't like their complexion, they don't like 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:48.400 their melanin. You know, I'll ask Glenn, which is this? 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:54.800 The fact is that you have Runda Santis, who everyone 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:56.880 wants to kind of shrug off, and I call him 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.520 death Santis. But it's not because I'm being dismissed above him. 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:01.280 It's because I I think that the man is a murderer. 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:05.720 Be of Ronda santists, who a couple of weeks ago 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:13.000 talked about wanting to create his own militia. You have 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:19.680 hundreds of electors that have been removed around the country 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:24.360 and replaced with Trumpers. You have secretaries of states right 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:29.920 that have been removed or their teeth have been taken 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:36.360 out because their politics don't aligned with Trumpism. These people 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:39.760 are waging a war, and Ronda Santis, to me, is 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:43.280 one of the most dangerous because he is smarter than 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:47.000 Donald Trump. He is a lot more politically savvy than 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:50.559 Donald Trump was, and the moves that he is making 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:56.360 are going to be copycatted by other red state governors. 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.840 So to me, what he is saying out loud. And 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:05.319 what I said last week is that Rhonda Santis is 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:11.840 preparing for war and he is signaling to his buddies 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.320 what it is that they need to do. And you 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:18.200 know Glenn will say, well, I don't know if he'll 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:21.079 be able to do it. Well, why not If Rhonda 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:27.440 Santis decided to say that I want a volunteer Florida militia, 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:32.680 we will do training, you will get some type of badge. Honestly, 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:36.000 what is to stop him? Because let me tell you something, 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.280 the Biden administration, in my humble opinion, is asleep at 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:44.480 the fucking wheel. I have seen na'er a press conference, 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:49.079 na'er an oval office meeting that is about the urgency 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:54.920 of the preservation of our democracy. We have seen nothing 0:11:55.600 --> 0:12:00.920 come out of any real leaders in that administration that 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:04.280 are telling us that they are taking the threats that 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:10.920 are being waged publicly and vocally seriously. We don't even 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:15.000 hear the media following up and asking the right questions. 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:20.280 Mister President. Governor DeSantis says that he wants to create 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:23.320 his own militia. What do you think about that? What 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:28.360 is your response to that? It is not enough to 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:32.200 continue to shrug these people off. It is not enough 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:35.479 for us to pretend that they are not as dangerous 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:40.800 as they are. And the more time that passes, and 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:46.120 the farther that we are from the insurrection and no 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:51.480 one behind it is in jail, the less likely we 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.080 are to have faith in our institutions, the less likely 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.880 that we are to show up for the next selection. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:01.199 And Glenn said something that really has made me concerned 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:06.320 as I'm letting it marinate. He said that twenty twenty 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:10.440 two will be a less fair and a less free election, 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:15.680 and if we do nothing in twenty twenty two, then 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:20.880 twenty twenty four will just be a performance. Let that 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:26.800 sit with you. We are still at a moment in 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:31.720 time that is fleeting. The window is closing where we 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:37.240 are able to reverse what has been done to repair 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:41.240 the damage that has been created, to hold those accountable 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:45.280 for trying to undermine and destroy our democracy. But we 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.520 are running out of time. And the fact is is 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:52.120 that there is no one that is raising the alarm, 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.640 that is pulling up the red flags, that is sending 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:59.319 up flares to let the American people know that they 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:04.880 can continue on believing that their government has their back 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:09.000 and is protecting them that these agencies and these departments 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:14.760 aren't just for show. We have a virus that is 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:21.080 raging and is signaling a fourth wave. We have Republicans 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:25.360 that are wayward and running a muck over our country 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.360 and doing everything that they can to undermine it. We 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:37.440 have climate change that is raging out of control. This 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:43.600 is a perfect storm for destruction. I believe that if 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:50.200 we make it, historians decades from now will look at 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.400 pivotal moments that we have been talking about on WOGAYF 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.360 and say, why didn't they react when they saw the 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:03.240 first signs? Why didn't they allow history to be their guide? 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:10.880 Why was everybody caught off guard when they knew what 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:18.400 was coming? And I feel like they're going to be 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:24.800 asking that question over the crumbling buildings and agencies in 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:28.920 this country. I don't know who America is going to 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:33.680 be in twenty twenty four. I don't know if it 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:39.280 will be America because what I am seeing is a 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:45.200 very rapid move to states rights and states operating as 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:49.600 their own fiefdoms, their own armies, their own little mini 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:56.640 presidents that are not united under anything. Republicans are united, 0:15:56.760 --> 0:16:00.720 They're united under destruction and power by any means necessary. 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:05.080 Democrats can't get in line to pass the fucking human 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:09.640 Infrastructure Bill. Oh, we're switching gears now so that we 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:12.280 can focus on voting rights, which you should have never 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:21.040 switched gears away from. We are in trouble. The country 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:26.840 is under threat. Domestic terrorism is not just on the rise, 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:32.720 it is in our Congress, and the apathy and the 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:40.600 dismissiveness of this administration is going to be our ruin, Folks. 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:43.960 Coming up next is my conversation with our dear friend 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:52.800 MSNBC Legal Analysts and the host of Justice Matters, Glenn Kirshner. Folks. 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:57.280 I am very excited to be back with Glenn Kirshner, 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.560 MSNBC Legal Analysts and the host of Justice. This matter 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:05.040 is to break down the latest news regarding the insurrection 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.359 and the one six Commission and whether or not we're actually, 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.600 at some point in the near future coming up on 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:16.640 the year anniversary of the insurrection, going to see severe arrests, 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:19.880 going to see purple walks of the people who were 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:24.959 the masterminds, the architects behind the insurrection. Glenn, you know 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:31.480 the one six Commission has issued subpoenas they have requested 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:35.800 or voted on Mark Meadows being held in criminal contempt. 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:41.600 But again, the only people that we've seen get jumpsuits 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:45.320 on and guilty verdicts are the low level people that 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.840 broke into the Capitol building, beat up Capitol police and 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:54.240 DC Metropolitan Police. But none of the major voices and 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:58.440 architects behind this have been arrested. They were all walking 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:03.080 around Scott free. What are we waiting on? I don't 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.600 know what we're waiting on. It feels unfair, It feels 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:09.400 unjust that the low level foot soldiers of the insurrection 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:13.199 are being held accountable, sum are being imprisoned, and the 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:17.119 people who organize the insurrection organize the foot soldiers and 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.879 the folks who launched the attack by telling the foot 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:25.159 soldiers go down there, stop the certification, and if you 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.160 don't fight like hell, you won't have a country anymore. 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.240 They are walking around, as you say, scott free, and 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.760 it feels wrong. It feels unfair, it feels unjust, it 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:40.000 feels dangerous. So what are we waiting for? I can't 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:43.639 begin to understand what we're waiting for, other than I 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:45.760 do know as a former federal prosecutor, it takes a 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:49.120 long time to build a huge conspiracy case. But what 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:52.760 we ordinarily do, Danielle, is we try to protect the 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:56.640 safety of the community first by making early arrests, by 0:18:56.680 --> 0:19:01.919 bringing early charges. And then once we have secured the community, 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:05.240 we begin to build in the grand jury. We return 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:10.120 superseding indictment, subsequent indictments where we add bigger charges, we 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:14.520 add more defendants. It ultimately culminates in the in the largest, 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:18.360 most significant criminal charge we can bring. In this case, 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.760 it might be a seditious conspiracy. It might be a 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:25.640 conspiracy to commit crimes against the United States. It might 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:29.800 be it might be a Rico conspiracy. You know, it's 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:34.840 beginning to look a lot like Rico this so I 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:38.480 know how much time that takes. But it all starts 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:43.360 with a first modest indictment. We haven't even seen them 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:49.480 first modest indictment of anybody other than Donald Trump's supporters 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:52.640 who were told by Donald Trump to go attack the Capitol. 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:58.240 That feels unfair, it feels unjust, and it feels dangerous. Okay, 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.399 Let's let's talk about Mark Meadow and the position that 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:05.200 he is in right now. So initially Donald Trump's chief 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:06.919 of staff, Mark Meadows, and by the way, he was 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:10.400 the fourth chief of staff right in the Trump administration 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:16.600 over four years. Mark Meadows originally was cooperating with the Commission, 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:22.000 provided thousands of documents, including all of the text messages 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:26.719 that have now begun to be public. Right. We saw 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:30.679 this week Laura Ingram and others pushing back and you know, 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:34.080 wanting to sue the Commission for the release of their 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:37.080 text messages because what we are now aware of the 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:40.520 fact that they are liars and hypocrites, right and are 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:45.679 endangering the public and knowingly doing so. Why then, do 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:49.560 you think that Meadows decided to make this pivot and 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:53.119 allow himself to be in a position where he is 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:57.800 going to be the first person since Watergate, right in 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:01.960 an administration that can be convicted. Right, I just don't 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:05.560 understand why you would start here, are all my documents 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:07.360 and now oh no, no, I'm not going to come 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:11.320 and testify. Yeah, I understand it, or I would explain 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:15.360 it this way. He is tissue paper week and all 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.000 he wants to do is sell books at this point, 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:21.560 and he needs Donald Trump's blessing or at least not 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:26.080 his condemnation to be able to sell books to the gullible, 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:30.280 to Donald Trump's base, and when he angers Donald Trump 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:33.760 by beginning the process of cooperating with the House Select Committee, 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:37.600 Donald Trump erupts. What is Mark Meadows tissue paper? You know? 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:40.200 Week that he is? What does he do? He backs 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:43.480 up and he stops cooperating. He really he's more willing 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:48.439 to be criminally convicted and perhaps spend time in prison 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:51.840 than he is to alienate Donald Trump and apparently not 0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:55.320 sell his book. That's what you know. You And it's 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:58.600 so funny, Danielle, because we struggle to try to make 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:01.760 sense this, and I feel the way I felt in 0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:05.199 court for thirty years when I was prosecuting criminal cases. 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:07.639 The jury wanted to make sense of it, and I 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:11.760 would say, folks, please don't fall into the trap of 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:14.280 trying to make sense of the senseless, because it's not 0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:16.440 going to make sense to you. It's not going to 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:19.960 make sense to us. And if we were required to 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:23.359 make sense of crime in order to convict people for 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:27.600 having committed crime, we would never convict anybody. So you 0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:31.840 can't rationally explain a Mark Meadows, the behavior of a 0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:36.320 Mark Meadows coming from a place where honesty, decency, integrity, 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:40.719 law abiding, this and a love of democracy motivates us 0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:44.399 and drives us and informs our understanding of the world. 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:47.879 It doesn't inform Mark meadows understanding of the world or 0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:52.000 Jim Jordan's or Donald Trump. So we can't make sense 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:55.120 of it, you know. But here's the thing. What I'm 0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:57.439 trying to make sense of is not the crimes that 0:22:57.480 --> 0:23:00.480 they committed. I'm trying to make sense of why Department 0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:05.240 of Justice, Why the FBI aren't the ones doing the investigation. 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:08.920 Why it is as our friend Ellie miss Stalad said, 0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:13.760 you know on MSNBC the other day, you know, it 0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:19.080 should have signaled to us when Joe Biden chose Merritt Garland, 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:22.679 he could have chosen anybody with a backbone with teeth 0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:26.520 right that was going to go after not just the 0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:29.320 low level folks that broke into the Capitol, but the 0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:33.440 architects of the insurrection, those that drafted the blueprint that 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:36.160 created a war room. So what I'm trying to make 0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:38.119 sense of, and I need your help with, is to 0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:41.240 understand where the hell is the Justice Department. And we 0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:44.440 can continue to tell ourselves that we think, oh well, 0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:46.679 we would never really know if they were, you know, 0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:49.480 doing the work. But at this point, the American people 0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:54.000 have lost complete and total faith in our institutions and agencies. 0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:57.360 And I think that having a signal, sending up a flare, 0:23:57.800 --> 0:23:59.840 that would let us know that our Justice Department is 0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:05.439 actually working to preserve, you know, the institution, not not 0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:07.560 just in name only, but in the fact that no 0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:11.399 one is about the law. Sending up a flare is 0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:14.800 exactly what we need. First of all, I can't conceive 0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:18.280 of living in a country. I can't conceive of a 0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:21.720 Department of Justice that was my professional home for nearly 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:26.359 quarter of a century not investigating these crimes. I can't 0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:29.800 accept that. Yes, I'm taking it on largely blind faith 0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:33.359 that they are, but I believe they are because there's 0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:36.560 so much criminal conduct in the harsh light of day 0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:40.040 that's been committed by Trump and company. So but we 0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:43.040 don't see any public manifestation of it. And more importantly, 0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:46.679 they haven't sent up a flare. All they need to do, Danielle, 0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:50.239 they could put Garland and Ray shoulder to shoulder, or 0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:52.880 do it with somebody else, because neither of those two 0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:56.280 men are the strongest communicators. I'm not making fun or 0:24:56.320 --> 0:25:02.520 making light of them to say, folks, friends, citizens, Americans, 0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:07.680 your Department of Justice saw what went on on January sixth, 0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:10.800 just like you did with our own eyes. And we've 0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:14.200 seen everything that went on before January sixth and what's 0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:19.840 gone on after January sixth. Please understand that your Department 0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:22.959 of Justice, the law firm for the American people, is 0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:29.399 hard at work attacking and investigating all crimes, all crimes 0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:34.959 that we have any hint have been committed. Please understand 0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:38.880 it takes time, but we're on top of it. But Daniel, 0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:44.560 I didn't disclose a single investigative effect. I didn't compromise 0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:49.359 a single investigation. I did no damage to the integrity 0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:53.240 of ongoing investigations. But I think America would feel better 0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:58.359 if we knew that our Department of Justice took this seriously, 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.520 was working for us, and was not going to turn 0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:06.760 a blind eye to the high politicians of this very 0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:10.919 sad chapter in our nation's history. I mean, you know, Glenn, 0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:13.159 you know I wanted to initially think that it was 0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:16.120 a chapter. I'm beginning to think that it's a volume, right, 0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:19.040 I'm beginning to think that this is just volume one, 0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:24.120 because as we move closer to twenty twenty two, and again, 0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:28.000 only a handful of insurrectionists have been held accountable. And 0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:31.240 I mean again, these people broadcasted on their own social 0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:35.159 media platforms right with glee, where they were and what 0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:39.000 they did, and it took months and months and months 0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:42.320 for those people to be picked up. I just I 0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:47.800 don't understand what our Justice Department, what our intelligence agencies, 0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.760 what they think that they what message that they are 0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:54.320 sending to the American public. And you know, frankly, I 0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:57.200 would be remiss if I didn't, if I didn't mention 0:26:57.400 --> 0:26:59.919 right as people know that I believe that race has 0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:04.359 everything to do with this race and power and privilege 0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:08.640 have everything to do with why these people are still 0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:11.680 walking around through free I mean we have okay, so 0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:16.800 Phil Waldron right, it's subpoenaed. Now, this is big news. 0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:19.919 So finally subpoena. But we knew that this man was, 0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:24.879 wrote a thirty six page memo, wrote a slide deck, 0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:28.040 put together a PowerPoint presentation from how long have we 0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:31.760 known that? And he's just being subpoenaed now and we're 0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:37.440