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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two oh seven

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Speaker 1: and two oh seven Episode one of Dude ilis like guys,

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Speaker 1: the production of I Heart Radio. This is a podcast

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Speaker 1: where we take a deep dive and do America's share consciousness.

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Speaker 1: It is Monday, October eighteen one. I don't need to

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Speaker 1: tell you what international day it is, because you already know.

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Speaker 1: It is, of course international today right now. It's a

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Speaker 1: blockbuster one. It's International Legging Day. Thank you, National Chocolate

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Speaker 1: Cupcake Day. Shout out to chocolate cupcakes. Shout out to

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Speaker 1: the leggings that we're all rocking as we record this.

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Speaker 1: Thank you too. Yeah, what is it, Lulu row, We

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Speaker 1: love our liking. My name is Jack O'Brien a k.

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Speaker 1: Somebody wants told me that when your bread gets moldy,

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Speaker 1: you throw it at the smash mouth dudes head. I said, no,

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Speaker 1: that's fucking him. He's got prime anti vax come. But

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Speaker 1: then planned started forming in my head. Well, the band

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Speaker 1: starts strumming, and the itch starts coming reaching the bags

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Speaker 1: and the whole wheat humming didn't make sense to huck

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Speaker 1: just one through half the loaf at that rage in bum.

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Speaker 1: That is all courtesy of Uncle Prue talking about one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite YouTube videos where people through bread at

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Speaker 1: the smash Mouth singer's head. He left into the audience

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Speaker 1: to fight them all while the band vamped the beginning

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Speaker 1: of All Star for like twenty minutes of truly an

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Speaker 1: impressive feat of concentration. And now he has resigned, So

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Speaker 1: we bid a dude to that dude. Anyways, I'm thrilled

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Speaker 1: to be joined as always by my co host, Mr

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Speaker 1: Miles Gray. Miles Gray deact doubting that Dodger blue. You

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Speaker 1: know he's com a a k a head day. Oh

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Speaker 1: no ho straight from North Hollywood with that wind up.

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Speaker 1: He's so twisted up you thought he was a Backwoods blunt.

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Speaker 1: And by goodness, I don't know how Game one of

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Speaker 1: the NLCS win, but I know how Game five of

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Speaker 1: the nlv S win, and I feel a little bit

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Speaker 1: bad for the Giants. Yeah, that would have been trashed

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Speaker 1: if I was on the other end of that one.

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Speaker 1: I was saying before we start recording that, you know,

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Speaker 1: I've become a Dodgers fan through osmosis, Like I used

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Speaker 1: to be a Red Sox fan, and then when the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers were playing the World Series, I realized I was

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Speaker 1: rooting for the Dodgers just because I'm scared of the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers fans mostly they're really mean. Yeah, but no, I

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Speaker 1: I really enjoy the team. I love Kenley Jansen, even

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Speaker 1: though it's a little unnerving to have a closer that

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Speaker 1: has all these like nervous ticks in his pitching motion,

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Speaker 1: kind of like I feel like I would. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: feel like I wouldn't want to pilot who was like

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Speaker 1: different things before taking off a plane. I feel like

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Speaker 1: the same thing when I watched Kenley Jansen pitch. I

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Speaker 1: feel like, oh boy, here we go, come on, old Gil.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, man, that that was that was sucking, brutal.

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Speaker 1: We we can talk about it after we introduce somebody

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Speaker 1: who were thrilled to be joined in our third seat

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Speaker 1: by a very funny comedian writer living in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: You've heard him on NPR, seeing him on FUSE, Kevin

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Speaker 1: Hart's Lull Network, and True TV, and he's been selected

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Speaker 1: to just for last New Faces and name the funniest

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Speaker 1: person in Austin, Texas. He writes about food for the

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Speaker 1: Austin Chronicle l A Weekly Eater, the takeout which we

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Speaker 1: one of America's Top up and Coming comics by Vulture.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome the hilarious and talented Danny Plumbo. That's some

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Speaker 1: fun with it. It's me, Danny Palumbo, a K. A

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Speaker 1: Pecorino Marino a K. Tony rickat Tony, I got pasta aliases.

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Speaker 1: I know those are great, man, Let them know. What

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Speaker 1: do you this one for far Fall, Well we can

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Speaker 1: think him another one. Yeah, bow tie pasta. I don't

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Speaker 1: know right anyway, what's new man? That man just chilling,

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Speaker 1: just doing all the all the credits that y'all mentioned.

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Speaker 1: That's the first time somebody mentioned every single thing I've

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Speaker 1: done before. That was it. I was like, I was

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Speaker 1: impressed by all of them. I don't normally do the

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Speaker 1: whole list, but those are all dope. Well. I needed

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Speaker 1: it because I don't have the one knockout. That's like

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Speaker 1: you've seen him on Conan, right, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: All of those to come together to make a mighty

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Speaker 1: fist Daniel knockout blow. Yeah, if you will, A check

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Speaker 1: swing that gets called strike. Yeah. I just I feel

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Speaker 1: for the Giants fans. It was like a magical season.

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Speaker 1: They were the it came out of nowhere to have

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Speaker 1: Dodgers are getting some calls here, and then they got

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Speaker 1: the next round and a check swinning that wasn't a yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: felt for everyone, even like when whether we were at

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Speaker 1: every single throws like mattering right now and like a

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Speaker 1: fucking like a strike three call just was just like

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Speaker 1: felt like, oh my god, Yeah, how are you going

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Speaker 1: to come back from everything? The stakes? But that's what

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Speaker 1: I love about this time of year in baseball, that

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Speaker 1: E forty that was yeah, I mean, all right, Danny,

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Speaker 1: we're going to get to know you a little bit

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Speaker 1: better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're

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Speaker 1: talking about we're talking about uh January six, subpoena Dodgers

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Speaker 1: who are entering the find out phase of the funk

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Speaker 1: around and find We're gonna talk about Texas trying to

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Speaker 1: both sides the fucking Holocaust. Maybe pretty pretty wild. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about Hannah Gadsby telling Netflix to keep their

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Speaker 1: to this other story that I've been introing for a

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Speaker 1: month now that I'm very interested in. But before we

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Speaker 1: get to any of that, Danny, we do like to

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Speaker 1: ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: This is just today. I had to google, uh, climping

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Speaker 1: my dog just like sprained or like paw or something.

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Speaker 1: She's been like limping around, and I was like, what

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Speaker 1: I will say, though, it does look like kind of cool.

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Speaker 1: She's kind of walking around with like a pimp walk

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Speaker 1: bit of a deeper step, Danny, where's my treats? She's

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Speaker 1: got like a little bit of an attitude right now.

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Speaker 1: But you don't like you know you saw no paw injuries, no,

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Speaker 1: just gotta you gotta walk it off, right, Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 1: doing that. But all of our dads told us as kids,

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Speaker 1: Where an I patched the school, you'll be good. That's

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Speaker 1: always good advice. Where an eye patch to school, they're

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Speaker 1: you don't know what he's capable of. Remember, our dog

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Speaker 1: It's a racket. They know we care about our dogs

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Speaker 1: But it's just like the fact that we have these

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Speaker 1: gonna see a dog with like full on robot legs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like a couple of years like that's coming. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be like cling from a lazer. Yeah, a laser

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Speaker 1: like cano. I yeah, like a deep red eye. Like

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Speaker 1: they're like, what part of this is still your dogs?

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Speaker 1: One of those Boston Dynamics. Roe the tail, look at

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Speaker 1: All right, what is something you think is overrated? Danny,

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Speaker 1: let's get into it. Halloween candy? I think I think

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Speaker 1: a takeout thing that gets published like next week, okay,

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Speaker 1: And we've talked I think we've talked nearly every candy

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Speaker 1: How does it have like better candy, Like how are

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Speaker 1: and even peeps like kind of like switched it up

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Speaker 1: not not great. So stop trying to make it New York.

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Speaker 1: It's not. Yeah, that's what you have Bells bagels in

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Speaker 1: Highland Park. No, I haven't people like that. I had.

425
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Speaker 1: I had their everything pretty good, pretty solid, love good everything. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's I'll praise to that everything big, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's take a quick break and we'll be

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Speaker 1: right back, and we're back and real quick. I do

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Speaker 1: have to ask you, Danny, the bagel that was one

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Speaker 1: of the top five things you've ever eaten out of

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Speaker 1: New York? Was it everything? Bagel? What? What kind of

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Speaker 1: bagel are we talking here? Yeah? It was everything, I

433
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Speaker 1: think so, yeah, it was everything, and it was everything.

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Speaker 1: It was everything to me. All right, let's talk about

435
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Speaker 1: the subpoena Dodgers who are entering the find out phase

436
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Speaker 1: of the funk around and find out sich. Steve benn

437
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: And said he wasn't showing up to his little interactional

438
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Speaker 1: appointment on Thursday last Thursday. I believe he didn't write Nope.

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Speaker 1: He said that, and then immediately on Thursday they're like, well,

440
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Speaker 1: we are going to move to a criminal referral then,

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Speaker 1: because I think again most people were like, man, these

442
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: people aren't going to do ship. And I think we

443
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Speaker 1: still are at a point where like, well, let's see

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Speaker 1: what happens. And I think, you know, Liz Cheney, she

445
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Speaker 1: definitely turned up her rhetoric as well as being one

446
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Speaker 1: of the two Republicans on this commission, said in general,

447
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: quote in general, people are going to have to appear

448
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: or you know, we will move contempt charges against them,

449
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Speaker 1: and then essentially saying like we'll see if they show up.

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Speaker 1: If they show up, we'll be prepared. Now, all this

451
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Speaker 1: to say is okay, well, here's the deal. How are

452
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Speaker 1: there going to be consequences for ignoring a congressional subpoena.

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Speaker 1: So what happens is first they have to make a

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Speaker 1: criminal referral in the committee and then they'll vote that

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Speaker 1: out of committee. If that makes it out of committee,

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00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: then it will go to a full House vote to

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Speaker 1: vote on saying okay, they have completely ignored as congressional subpoena.

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Speaker 1: Are we down to move this forward to refer this

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Speaker 1: to the Department of Justice. If that passes, then it

460
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Speaker 1: goes to the Department of Justice, where if Marrik Garland

461
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Speaker 1: is gonna just about to do the right ship, he

462
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: will then put a U S Attorney on it, who

463
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Speaker 1: will then determine if they need to put what charges

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Speaker 1: to bring for this. Now it's really gonna boil down

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Speaker 1: to how aggressive Mayork Garland is going to be, and

466
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Speaker 1: like uh, and you know, applying the law equally, but

467
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Speaker 1: also how the courts are going to look at executive

468
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Speaker 1: privilege too, because that's the thing that everyone keeps talking about,

469
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Speaker 1: and it's sort of putting people in a weird space,

470
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Speaker 1: like where Bannon has not been in the White House

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Speaker 1: for some time, so his claim of executive privilege doesn't

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Speaker 1: really apply people like Mark Meadows, who was like the

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Speaker 1: chief of staff. It's a little bit closer, but still

474
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Speaker 1: a lot of people like that shouldn't protect someone from

475
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Speaker 1: citing an insurrection even if they are in office. What's

476
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Speaker 1: happening here? And so this still the fact still remains

477
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Speaker 1: that Bannon could try and drag this out and say, okay,

478
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Speaker 1: take me to a trial, but let's do a jury trial,

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Speaker 1: which would be actually in the District of Columbia. And

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing the residents of d C probably aren't too

481
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Speaker 1: happy about what happened on January six, and he could

482
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Speaker 1: potentially face up to a year in jail. And if

483
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Speaker 1: he really didn't want to testify, then what if he says,

484
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Speaker 1: fuck it, I'll do a year on my head and

485
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Speaker 1: I still won't say anything, And what are you gonna do? Now?

486
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Speaker 1: That's still a possibility now whether or not he fears

487
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Speaker 1: jail time and this and that. I think that's where

488
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Speaker 1: all these things are gonna We're gonna quickly see who

489
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Speaker 1: is built for talking to talk and who's gonna walk

490
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Speaker 1: the walk? Right, Well, he's he's not built for jail

491
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Speaker 1: time at all. No, but I mean, you know, he'll

492
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Speaker 1: imagine if he imagine he he came out like super jacked.

493
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, after like ripping through all three dress shirts

494
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: that here, Wow, Bannon's hot now, could you like yeah,

495
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 1: like when Ted Cruz had appeared and suddenly people are like,

496
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Speaker 1: I don't know, what does ship? What do we like

497
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Speaker 1: ideally hope to learn from from this process? Like do it?

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Speaker 1: Because I just feel like they will even if we

499
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Speaker 1: got them to testify, they would just obtuse, skate and

500
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: delay and redirect and just do all sorts of bullshit.

501
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: Like I'm just curious, like what what's the best case

502
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: scenario of of this or worst case scenario for them

503
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: is that they just like feel like they go to jail,

504
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: right you know, yeah, base fines, but also become like martyrs.

505
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: You know. So there's that aspect because once that starts happening,

506
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: you know, the right wing medium machine is going to

507
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: kick off and you know, draw this out as long

508
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: as possible, because they've already the mission of the GOP

509
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: is already to paper over January six. So it's nothing

510
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: that puts a bad taste in anyone's mouth. As we

511
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: saw where they pledged allegiance to a fucking flag from

512
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Speaker 1: that was you know, carried peacefully on January six. As

513
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Speaker 1: the woman said, so yeah, I mean it's it's jail time,

514
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Speaker 1: the threat of jail time, and you know how that

515
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Speaker 1: would you alter their lives if they want to face

516
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 1: those penalties for not testifying. And I'm sure for the

517
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: people in the committee they want to know every single

518
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: person that's involved involved. But then it's like, well, is

519
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: as our judicial system in our society built in a

520
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: way that will actually hold people to account for this,

521
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: because it's also a hard thing where even normal people

522
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: are like, yeah, that was fucked up. Also like I'm

523
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: being underpaid and I'm I'm quitting my job, So like

524
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Speaker 1: while that's cool, like as some other things, it's there's

525
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: a lot to balance here. As you described the amount

526
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Speaker 1: of hoops that would have to go through, I was like, oh,

527
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna fall off somewhere. It feels like, you know, yeah,

528
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Speaker 1: someone someone's gonna drop the ball in that process, or

529
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: like they're not going to charge them or whatever. I

530
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Speaker 1: just didn't have faith in the process you described. I

531
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Speaker 1: think that's why we'll see, right, because there they said Tuesday,

532
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna vote in committee to do a

533
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: criminal referral. Right, and then don't see how quickly the

534
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: Department of Justice moves to the Department of Justice like

535
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: thank you, here we go, here's an attorney knock knock, abandoned.

536
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: Then other people who are going to be like, oh,

537
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: they normally don't do that, and it's happening okay, But

538
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Speaker 1: then I don't know what kind of legal liability these

539
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: people have, Like they're gonna incriminate themselves by being like, yeah,

540
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: so I helped planned it with these people, like you

541
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like that they're also not gonna

542
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: say something like that, right, yeah, Like the ideal version,

543
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: the idealized version of this investigation is like they uncover

544
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: like a conspiracy that involves like elected officials conspiring with

545
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: the people. But like I just I can't at this point,

546
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Speaker 1: like imagine that coming out in any way that the

547
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: Republicans would allow. We've already saw in that Senate report

548
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: just exactly what the administration was doing in the days

549
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: after the election to try and pressure states to overturn

550
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: the results. Yeah, there is it like work for sure. Yeah,

551
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: but like so I don't know, you know, they're they'll

552
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: clearly be things like people are wanting to know, like

553
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: who if people actual members of Congress were helping coordinate

554
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: and things like that. I'm sure those are like the

555
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: answers that they probably want to bring to the public's

556
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: attention and then see how the outrage moved from there.

557
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's there's not a version where it's like

558
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: gonna be like Mark Meadows, like and Donald Trump made

559
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: us all do it, and here's the tape that will

560
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: put him in jail. Yeah, but at the very least,

561
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, some visibility, and I think that's I think

562
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: that's the thing that they want to try and change,

563
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: is that like you can't just do it, get away

564
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Speaker 1: with it and kind of scratch your head and like

565
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: I wonder who's involved, right, because at this point, it

566
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: just feels like we're at the part like end back

567
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: to the future where this is just like, what are

568
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: you gonna do about it? McFly and just you know,

569
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: like like that that's how the GOP treats the or

570
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: the demo crats and everyone basically at this point, and

571
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: we're we're in the alternate timeline where he's just like,

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00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: oh no, and then they end up, you know, being

573
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: the the family at the beginning of Back to the Future.

574
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: Only time travel can thank you and you can quote that.

575
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: That's what it all made sense for me when Back

576
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: to the Future reference in the whole GEOP. Let's talk

577
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: about Texas, the hits just don't stop to quote smash mouth,

578
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: the hits start coming and they don't stop coming from

579
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: the lone Star state. And this week we've got a

580
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: directive that was given to teachers in the Carol Independent

581
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: School District in South Lake. So Greg Abbott had signed

582
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Speaker 1: this HB thirty seventy nine into law, which essentially made

583
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Speaker 1: it illegal to make white people feel bad teaching them history.

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00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: That's that's what the wording of the bill seems to suggest.

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00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: If you really read it, it says mental anguish or

586
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: something in there. Yeah, it says no teacher, administrator, or

587
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: other employee in any state agency school district, etcetera shall

588
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: require or make it part of a course. Uh, the

589
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: following concepts and there's like a few going. Number six,

590
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Speaker 1: an individual, by virtue of his or her race or sex,

591
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: bears responsibility for actions committed in the past by other

592
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: members of the same race or sex. That slavery, I think.

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Speaker 1: And then number seven is any individual should feel discomfort, guilt, anguish,

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Speaker 1: or any other form of psychological distress on account of

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Speaker 1: his or her race or sex. Or eight meritocracy or

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00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: traits such as hard work ethic are racist or sexist,

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00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: or were created by by a member of a particular

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00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: race to oppress members of another race. Oh boy, yeah,

599
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: it's like you know, I mean, but it is there

600
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Speaker 1: interpretation of what the Yeah, they're like, you want our

601
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Speaker 1: kids to feel bad that they're white, and it's like

602
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: that that's not really the point. But they can't, Yeah,

603
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Speaker 1: they can't teach if they have this much white guilt

604
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: to well, what are they gonna do? And then but

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00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: the all this is where the Holocaust part comes in.

606
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: And I hate to even say this, the Holocaust part

607
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: comes in. It also says quote teachers who choose to

608
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: discuss current events are widely debated and currently controversial issues

609
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: of public policy or social affairs, still, to the best

610
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Speaker 1: of their abilities, strive to explore such issues from diverse

611
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: and contending perspectives without giving deference to any one perspective. Yeah,

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00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: that seems like a problem. So this is where it happened.

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00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: So a parent in the school district, apparently, and I'm

614
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Speaker 1: presuming that this parent was just a sentient burning cross,

615
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: lost their ship on the school district because a fourth

616
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Speaker 1: grade teacher had an anti racism like anti racism book

617
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Speaker 1: in the classroom, like just they're like just like among

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00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: the books in the classroom. And because of that, there

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Speaker 1: had to be a training with teachers to remind them

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Speaker 1: about this HB three seven nine, where Gina Petty, who's

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Speaker 1: the Carol School District's executive director of Curriculum and Instruction,

622
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: had to just make sure he's like, Okay, I'm here

623
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Speaker 1: because we had a thing and I got to just

624
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Speaker 1: make sure that everybody understands what's going on here. And

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Speaker 1: I'll play a clip of this meeting because a teacher

626
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: was like, somebody in the mets like, we need to

627
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: record this ship because I don't even know what the

628
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: funk they're about to say, which leads us to this

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Speaker 1: audio clip because someone decided to record this training session.

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00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: This is a moment where teachers were confused by saying,

631
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Speaker 1: like what do you mean we have to show other person?

632
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: Like what does this even mean? Like this doesn't even

633
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: make sense. This is where she articulates what exactly this

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Speaker 1: means and make sure that if you have a book

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Speaker 1: on the Holocaust, that you have one of the Holocaust? Remember, yeah, wow,

636
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Speaker 1: so what do you do that with? Believe me? That's

637
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Speaker 1: come up? Throw up some examples while you're up there,

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Yeah wow. Yeah. So they're like they're like,

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Speaker 1: uh huh, I'm sorry, So what you're gonna you're gonna

640
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: bring up like the wording of like the final solution?

641
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: You want to just get the other side, you know,

642
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: you gotta the protocols of the elders of Zion, Like

643
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: what are you're just saying to come up? It's come up,

644
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: okay that like people who had like disabilities were also

645
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: undesirables and should therefore be expert Like it's a wide

646
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Speaker 1: I mean like again saying it's the only thing you teach. Okay,

647
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying exactly And this is what this I

648
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess. I guess Hitler's speech at the

649
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: Reichs Dog is going to be taught as well to

650
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 1: be like and I don't know, guys, I won't give

651
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: deference to either one of those now clearly that sent

652
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: the entire world or people who are observing like this,

653
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: like this isn't absolutely disgraceful. What are you talking about

654
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: the author of this bill, the state senator was based

655
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's not at all

656
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: this bill's purpose. Like fuck, no, no, no no, Like, we're

657
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: not trying to do that. I'm glad, and he's like,

658
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: I'm glad. We're having these conversations to elucidate what the

659
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: actual bill's intention was, which really is they just want

660
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: to disconnect children from a feeling of moral or societal

661
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: obligation to create a more inclusive and just world. That's

662
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: what we want to do, not both sides, not seasoned.

663
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: Although that happens, It happens, Jesus. So can they do that?

664
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like this has to end

665
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: at some point, right, they can't. Actually, well, I mean

666
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: the this is why the right has been so adamant

667
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: about like when when talking amongst themselves about like going

668
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: after the school boards, is that you know, they are

669
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: the people who determine like what gets taught in in schools,

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00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I don't. I didn't think that

671
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 1: they were directly implying that they should teach the hot

672
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: teach Holocaust children. But yeah, it does seem like that

673
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: could easily be a consequence of that. It sounds like

674
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: though it might not. I don't know that potentially it

675
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't go that far. That's like an extreme example because

676
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: they're definitely looking in terms of like racism, but it's

677
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: like that's still fucking heinous too, Like what you white,

678
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: Is anything close to this happening in another state at all?

679
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: Or is it like mostly just like Texas. I mean,

680
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure if I mean to the point where you know,

681
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 1: there are people who are definitely being taught completely fucked

682
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: up versions of what the Civil War was. I've lived

683
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: back East, I've lived in Texas, and I've lived on

684
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: the West Coast, and I can't looking back on my

685
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: five years just even in Austin, I was like, oh

686
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: and that was like living on another fucking planet, Like

687
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: it was the closest thing to like living on like

688
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: an alien planet. Like these people are just like completely

689
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: blankers and they're everywhere, even in Austin. Also that people

690
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: are like, oh, it's like a liberal hub, and I'm like, no, dude,

691
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: it's still fucking Texas. You're very aware of that, like yeah.

692
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: And again, just as people realize that, you know, the

693
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: platform their political parties platform is just about you know,

694
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: feigning the flames of like racial grievances and not really

695
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: about any kind of outcome like that, the only way

696
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: to fight strike back is to just create voters who

697
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: have nowhere with all our context for anything. So it's like,

698
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: if only we have to crank out more kids who

699
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: when we say Nazi ship, don't go, oh my god,

700
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: that's Nazi ship. Yeah right, I mean that's the long game.

701
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: But as of now, like you're it's it's a pretty

702
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: hard slamming on the brakes for a lot of people

703
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: are just like that's I mean, and you can hear

704
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: in all those teachers voices when she's there, like the

705
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: holic like what and I mean, I don't know. It's

706
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: it's another time when we're we're only seeing this because

707
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: somebody had happened to be recording it, you know, like

708
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: similar to the the George Floyd's murder like that, you know,

709
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: the it's reflective presumably of not just this one person.

710
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 1: It's like there there is a strong undercurrent of just

711
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: very intense white supremacy like throughout the country that like

712
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: well and isn't Texas the biggest purchaser of textbooks, so

713
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,479
Speaker 1: like they have a huge steak in what is even

714
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 1: in the textbooks. Just I can only imagine like if

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Speaker 1: I and I don't know, I mean, I'm I'm I'm

716
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: completely ignorant as to like how HB three seven nine

717
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: would affect the like textbooks or if there's going to

718
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: be more of a mandate now coming from this large

719
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: buyer of textbooks, like to think we got a couple

720
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Speaker 1: of notes here. M all right, let's take a quick

721
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: break and we'll come back. And we're back, and let's

722
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Speaker 1: talk Netflix. The CEO Ted Surrandos has been in a

723
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: bit of a ship storm since last week as he

724
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: just like kind of continues to completely fumble the backlash

725
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: against Dave Chappelle's just horribly transphobic BS Special The Closer,

726
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: So Surrandos kick things off by essentially saying that Netflix

727
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: pushes boundaries and comedy does. Man. Yeah, ended up like

728
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: they had a conflict with a trans employee who was

729
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: unhappy with their employer's actions and suspended and then unsuspended

730
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: that employee. And I was like, oh, I had nothing

731
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: to do with that. We just suspend people because they

732
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: were vocal about like critics in the company's like this

733
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: whole other thing. And yeah, it's getting worse now, Like

734
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: he put out a letter two employees trying to explain

735
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: the mess away and how it's really not that bad

736
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: because Netflix also has like stuff with like gay people too,

737
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: so that's chill. And he said this is in this

738
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: letter quote. Adults can watch violence, assault in abuse, or

739
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: enjoy shocking stand up comedy without it causing them to

740
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: harm others. We are working hard to ensure marginalized communities

741
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: aren't defined by a single story. So he has sex

742
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: education oranges into a black control z. Hannah Gadsby and

743
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle all on Netflix. Key to this is increasing

744
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 1: diversity on the on the content team itself. Hannah Gatsby

745
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: did not appreciate being deployed as a defense token in

746
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: this fucking lame or argument and posted quote Ted Serrando's

747
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: just a quick note to let you know that I

748
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: would prefer if you didn't drag my name into your mess.

749
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: Now I have to deal with even more of the

750
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: hate and anger that Dave Chappelle's fans like to unleash

751
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: on me every time Dave gets twenty million dollars to

752
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: process his emotionally stunted partial worldview. You didn't pay me

753
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: nearly enough to deal with the real world consequences of

754
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: the hate speech, dog whistling. You refuse to acknowledge, Ted,

755
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: fuck you, and you're a moral algorithm. Could I do

756
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: ships with more backbone than you? That's just a Joe.

757
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: I definitely didn't cross the line because you just told

758
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 1: the world there isn't one. Wow, damn, that was good.

759
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: That was a good tweet. Now as I think it's

760
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: a maybe, am I g like I post? But the

761
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: referencing of like, I'd like that, you know, Hannah's calling

762
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: out this just tired as defensive. These things don't lead

763
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: a real world harm, okay, and having a very limited

764
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: definition of what harm is. You know, as he says,

765
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: this is another this is his further you know defense

766
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: of like this harm argument quote. The strongest evidence to

767
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: support this is that violence on screens has grown hugely

768
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: over the last thirty years, especially with first party shooter

769
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: games the first party, and yet violent crime has fallen

770
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: significantly in many countries. Adults can watch violence blah blah

771
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: blah blah blah without harming. There's so that was like

772
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: the first part. You know, you can still get Birth

773
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: of a Nation or Triumph of the Will through their

774
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: disc based rental service, just so you know. But also,

775
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: like a lot of people are pointing out, is like

776
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: have you seen this own documentary that's on Netflix that

777
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: you put out called Disclosure, which the sub heading is

778
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: in this documentary leading trans creatives and thinkers share heartfelt

779
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: perspectives and analysis about Hollywood's impact on the trans community.

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00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: I think that's just like your opinion man, and it's

781
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: like your opinion man on my own platform. Yeah, oh yeah.

782
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: I was just having a conversation with a friend over

783
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 1: dinner about this last night. But who's also a comedian.

784
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: It's so like comedians, a lot of them can't make

785
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: the connection between like the thing they're saying and then

786
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: also violence. Like to them, there's just not the straight

787
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: line at all, and it's like really fucking infuriating. Also

788
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: the people that really, I would say, would you say,

789
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: there's like a vent diagram of people that hated Hannah

790
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: gas based special and then also people that like like

791
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: and it's like, if you didn't think that was comedy,

792
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: well what do you think that is? Like? And I

793
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 1: watched the whole thing too, and it was like long

794
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: point point making pauses, diatribes is like what it reads like, Yeah,

795
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: it's like superhypic. Granted, you know, the whole thing wasn't

796
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: just a screed against the LGBTQ community, but what it

797
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: was was it didn't it It was not a comedy special.

798
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: When you look at his other specials, it's a completely

799
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: different person and a different kind of performance, and it's

800
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: truly just someone, as Gasby says, it's just sort of

801
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: like trying to process their limited worldview on stage for

802
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: a couple of million bucks. Yea, And a lot of

803
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: people said, look for all the people who want to

804
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: make the content doesn't cause horm nonsense, a lot of

805
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: them just gestured at thirteen reasons why you know. Many

806
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: child development experts and psychologists criticized the show for its

807
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: depiction of a teenager taking their own life, and they

808
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,959
Speaker 1: said it could possibly very well and most likely would

809
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: lead to copycat incidents. And then a damning study was released.

810
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: According to the Journal of the American Academy of Child

811
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: and Adolescent Psychiatry in March seventeen, which was a month

812
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: after the show debut, there's a twenty eight point nine

813
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: increase in suicide among Americans ages ten to seventeen. And

814
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: it completely was like an outlier based on statistical trends

815
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: and things like that. And obviously, again correlation isn't causation,

816
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: but it was definitely enough for Netflix to say, Okay,

817
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: let's reconsider something, and they just did the minimum by

818
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: adding a warning card, um, oh too too rich, not

819
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: enough people telling him to shut the funk up, I

820
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: think is often what happens, right, Yeah, I don't know.

821
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: It's a bummer man. Harm isn't just about walking up

822
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: to someone and committing a violent hate crime, you know

823
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I think that's how people excuse

824
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: that this isn't bad, that this doesn't arrive to that

825
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: level of would hate speech or something like that. And

826
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Speaker 1: I would say anything that is contributing to the slowing

827
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: of progress is in and of itself a violent outcome

828
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 1: for somebody, because normalizing the other ing of trans people

829
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: through edgy comedy specials directly contributes to people not seeing

830
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: the humanity of these people. And it's just a punchline.

831
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: And I'm curious which Chappelle defend a white comics use

832
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: of minstrelsy tropes or doing black face, because people laughed

833
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: at that ship. But it's the same thing. Black Face

834
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 1: was used to dehumanize Black Americans, and at the time

835
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: people called that comedy entertainment. But the insidious part is

836
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: what it does is it creates a baseline for a

837
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: level of being able to perceive someone as a human

838
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: who's deserving his dignity or not. And if you're fucking

839
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: with that, and you're trying to pump the brakes on

840
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: that by saying ship like I'm team Turf and all

841
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: this other ship and trying to make your point about

842
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: how like trying to deny someone the age and see

843
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: a fucking gender expression, you're directly opposed to progress to

844
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: liberation for people. So in that sense, you're not fucking

845
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: saying anything clever, You're not speaking truth to power anything

846
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: like that and if you're talking about a point, you know,

847
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: like good comedy that's edgy and causes conversation is typically

848
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: pointing out an absurdity of our society or culture, right

849
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: that people like, damn, that is an absurd thing that

850
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: is going on that we're not really looking at critically.

851
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: At best, Chappelle is saying that it's absurd that trans

852
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: women think they are women. That's it, and that's only

853
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: I don't that would only appear as an absurd notion

854
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: to someone that wants to deny a person the agency

855
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: of gender expression. That's not saying anything larger about this.

856
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: So that's I'm like, I'm failing to see where where

857
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: you understand the like the hegemonic dimensions of all this,

858
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: and where power lies in what direction you're trying to

859
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: to skew the like make a point, right, I mean

860
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: there and there is no He's just making the same

861
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: point it over and over again, and it's just him

862
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: gesturing at his anxiety around something that deep down he

863
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 1: knows is wrong and fucked up and he hasn't dealt

864
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: with it. But like in the same way that you

865
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: know you look back at you know, minstrel shows and

866
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: you're like, how is this comedy? Like it it doesn't

867
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: make sense now, but it was because it addressed like

868
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: some deep anxiety of people realizing like what they were,

869
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: like their worldview was incredibly fucked up. I think that

870
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. It's like I don't really even

871
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: see how this is a joke, but it's like basically

872
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: like touching on a thing that I think culturally he

873
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: like we realize is fucked up, and that like he's

874
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: struggling with like five levels deep in his consciousness and

875
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: like can't can't process and that's why he keeps fucking

876
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: coming back to it and just being wrong and strong

877
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: on on that man. There's like almost no in between

878
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: with like comedy anymore. It's like people are either tripping

879
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 1: on a banana peel or they're like trying to start

880
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: a cult or something. There's like no in between, Like

881
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: at all, I missed people tripping on a banana pele.

882
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: What happened to pratfalls? Yeah, that's what we're prat falls.

883
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: Let's your dietal analyzes from your perspective as assists heat

884
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: and male. Yeah, telling people who is and is not

885
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: a woman? Like Okay, it's like when Joe Biden was like,

886
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: if you don't vote for me, you ain't black, right

887
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: the funk up? We got something for your ask too,

888
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: all I did you know? I can't stand to It's

889
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: like a lot of these contexts too, will say things

890
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: like why would you listen to us? Like we're comedians,

891
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: and it's like you keep, you know, positioning yourself as

892
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: someone that knows what the funk they're talking about, like

893
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,959
Speaker 1: your you know, like your your point making, like that's

894
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: why people are listening to you and I and I

895
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: think it's I really ch orange people for people who

896
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: are Dave Chappelle fans, and I've had a few of

897
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: them reach out to me because that our perspective on

898
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: this whole incident is to really consider what you are

899
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: casually just laughing off as not harmful because maybe you

900
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: are in a position socio economically, racially or whatever to

901
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:22,479
Speaker 1: not understand that ship like that is is what keeps

902
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: people down, is what keeps things from progressing forward and

903
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: having a better outcome or life like when you know,

904
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: I think most people can look at racial stereotypes and

905
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: understand that they're harmful, but you have to begin to

906
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: evolve your thinking of it to understand how large this

907
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: world is and how varied people's experiences and identities are,

908
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: And like, why the funk are you caping for somebody

909
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: who's making someone feel bad? That doesn't that's not that

910
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: doesn't track. And I'm if people in the trans community

911
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: is saying this is violence, this is offensive. I think

912
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want to have to be

913
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: subjected to this. Why the funk are other people be like, no,

914
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: they don't know what they're talking about. Yeah, that's not

915
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: your place to determine that. This actually brings us to

916
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 1: a story that I've been teasing for a month now

917
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: but that we keep not getting too because I was

918
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,959
Speaker 1: waiting for the perfect time to bring it up. It's

919
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: the story that super producer Dramas put in the Dock

920
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: about a study that shows that two point six percent

921
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: of people have athanasia, meaning they don't possess the ability

922
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: to create pictures in their mind's eye, And oftentimes they

923
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: don't realize this. They just think that people are being

924
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: poetic when they talk about like being able to envision things.

925
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: But this Vice article consists of an interview with somebody

926
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: who has this, and the reason that I think it

927
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: relates to what you're talking about with the Chappelle. Thing

928
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: is they mentioned that people get like really defensive and

929
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: kind of aggressive when they explained that they have this.

930
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: So the Vice reporters, have you always known the way

931
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: you thought was significantly different to other people? And then

932
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: the person with Afiantasia says a friend said that a

933
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: friend of theirs was Greek but had lived in England

934
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: for ten years, and they were wondering whether he thought

935
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: in English or in Greek. And until that moment, I

936
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: had no idea that anyone thought in languages at all.

937
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: The same goes for mental images. When people said a

938
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: mental picture, I didn't realize they were being literally. I

939
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 1: thought it was poetic. When I found out it wasn't,

940
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 1: a bit of poetry of the world disappeared. I've only

941
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: known for a few years, so it's taken some time

942
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: to get used to the notion that not everyone thinks

943
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: the same way. And then they talk about how people

944
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: get agro about them, and the Vice reports like, why

945
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: would that bother people? And they say, it strikes me

946
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: that by mentioning that I don't think in pictures or

947
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: in words, I'm somehow attacking their approach. The fact that

948
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: there's another way makes people uncomfortable. Everyone is always asking

949
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: me questions like can't you tell me what your dad

950
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: looks like? And the reporters like, can't you tell me

951
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: what your dad looks like? And they're like, no, I

952
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: know what my dad looks like. I know what my

953
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 1: entire family looks like. But the only reason I could

954
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: tell you what color my dad's eyes are is because

955
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: I checked once when someone asked me. And you know,

956
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: I think this ties back to people's like inability to

957
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: process the violence that trans people feel around the Dave

958
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: Chappelle special. I think it ties back to even the

959
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: Havana syndrome story and the fact that like people are

960
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: so first of all aggressive and like certain, oh they

961
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: must be making it up, or then when the people

962
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: themselves are accused of like you know, not having had

963
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: the actual attack, gets super defensive. Is because we just

964
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: we are super aggressive and kind of counterintuitively and illogically aggressive.

965
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: When it comes to the idea that other human beings

966
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: don't think and process the world in the same way

967
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: that we did. It's like really troubling two people in

968
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 1: a way that I just I feel like I see

969
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,439
Speaker 1: it everywhere. Once I read this article, I was like, oh,

970
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: that's we are like so uncomfortable with that idea. And yeah,

971
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 1: insecurity is like directly tied to anchor about things, right,

972
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: It's obvious, like you well what I feel like. Once

973
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: I started realizing that I could see it in other

974
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: people too, Like when I see you know, whatever it is,

975
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you're incredibly insecure about something, you know,

976
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: that's how it comes out. Yeah, And yeah, it's just

977
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 1: like like we kind of built a world that relies

978
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: on the illusion that we have control over like all

979
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: our faculties and that we all think the same, and like,

980
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: if somebody commits a crime, they have done that. I'm

981
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: perp this like thinking the same thoughts that we're thinking

982
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: as we imagine them committing that crime, and you know

983
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: that therefore blame them for their actions. And yeah, there's

984
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: just it's so much of the world relies on this

985
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: illusion and this like misconception. And then you know, anytime

986
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: like somebody explains that their brain doesn't work exactly the

987
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: same as somebody else, or you know that their experience

988
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: has led them to see something completely differently than you,

989
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: it just causes people like two freak out when you

990
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: read that? Uh that study? Did it sunk with you

991
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: a little bit? Also, but you were like, can I

992
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: think of images? I was like, for a second, I

993
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: read it this morning. I was like, oh God, picture

994
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: a candle. I got it, I got it right. Yeah,

995
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what a candle looks like. Yeah, there's

996
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: I think. You know, it's just the same way like

997
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 1: we've especially we saw with the uprisings last summer around

998
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: you know all the police killings that were happening, is

999
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: that suddenly white people were caught in them all and

1000
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 1: be like, what do you like? It was like, wait,

1001
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: there's another way to look at this rather than being

1002
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: less empathetic or understanding of like how oppression works. And

1003
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 1: then suddenly it's to get defensive about it and defend

1004
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: your because it's for many people it's hard to look

1005
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: at your belief system and say, Yo, that's fucking that.

1006
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: Actually I need to throw that piece out. That's actually

1007
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: not helping me. It's actually gonna hold me back, and

1008
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: it's actually it's running counter to where the where the

1009
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 1: rest of the world is. I had very many points

1010
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: of evolution in my own understanding of race, of gender,

1011
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: identity and things like that, and it truly took me.

1012
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: You have to really you have to arrive at a place,

1013
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: so you have to think, a am I a flawed person?

1014
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: Or do I have things that I'm insecure about are

1015
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: different about me that I would hope I'm living in

1016
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: a world where those things don't matter, where those are

1017
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 1: not those are not vectors to terrorize me emotionally. Can

1018
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: I be around people that are understanding? And if I

1019
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: do believe that's the world that I want to live in,

1020
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: then it is incumbent on me to also treat every

1021
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: other person in situation like that, because if you get selective,

1022
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: then it's only gonna it doesn't lead to increasing understanding. Buddy, dude,

1023
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: I even thinking about like comedy, like I've been doing

1024
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: it for ten years. I started in Pittsburgh, like I

1025
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: didn't grow up in like the most like culturally diverse town,

1026
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: and like going to Austin it's like a very liberal place.

1027
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: I remember getting there and like doing jokes and like

1028
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: other like a friend, a great friend of mine, cath

1029
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: Barbara Doro other another comedian came up to me after

1030
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: a show one time and was like, like, you're super funny,

1031
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: but that one joke is like super misogynist, and I

1032
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: was like really, I was like I don't know if

1033
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: I read it that way, and she was like like yeah,

1034
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: like the laughs you're getting on it like they're like

1035
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: kind of like mean last and do It's stuck with

1036
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: me so much, And I remember just having a moment

1037
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: where I was like, oh, I don't want that at all, right,

1038
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: as like I always felt like but I always felt

1039
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: like open to like evolving past those things and thankful

1040
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: for the people in my life too that we're just

1041
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,959
Speaker 1: totally like hey, like let's talk about it real quick,

1042
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: and you know, oh, yeah, thank you so much. Yea, yeah,

1043
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: And that's that's I think, like, so at that moment,

1044
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: you were able to imagine the world from a different

1045
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: perspective than your own and evolve your perspective to include

1046
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: that perspective. And I feel like the you know, all

1047
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,479
Speaker 1: out of these comedians who now are just like trying

1048
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: to start a cult are are like they get told

1049
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: of a different perspective and they just kind of clamped

1050
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: down and choose to not let that in and instead

1051
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: to fight against it and try to like get people

1052
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: to see the the world through their eyes, I guess,

1053
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: and yeah, in a very culti way that seems damaging. Yeah,

1054
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: And a lot of people are stuck on the fact

1055
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: that they were probably getting a lot of laughs when

1056
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: they were kids in the nineties by being the meanest

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Speaker 1: motherfucker who was able to rephrase bullying shit in funny ways. Mhm,

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Speaker 1: because a lot of it. Man. I used to get

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Speaker 1: so many laughs, like just going off on somebody's looks

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Speaker 1: or like your mom, you know, like just just mean ship.

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Speaker 1: But people are more like, oh ship, he went there

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Speaker 1: in a creative way, and I'm moved, And then you realize,

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Speaker 1: sh it, man, I'm just really good at being mean

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Speaker 1: in a way that isn't traditionally mean, and it's a

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Speaker 1: way that I can make people laugh because we all

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Speaker 1: of us are stunted kids and not like not able

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Speaker 1: to extend empathy or sympathy in a direction. And then

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Speaker 1: you have to have a reckoning with that where I

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Speaker 1: was like fun man, Like I'm not really funny if

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Speaker 1: the only thing I can do is just being like

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Speaker 1: kind of mean, like just describe some ship about someone

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Speaker 1: being different or ugly or something like that. That's not

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Speaker 1: a joke, And there's a. I think that's why a

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Speaker 1: lot of people too, who have a lot of like

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Speaker 1: jokes or material that are sort of come from that

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Speaker 1: philosophy of like, you know, I'm just teasing, man, I'm

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Speaker 1: just capt you know, just sucking, poking fun man, it's

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Speaker 1: not that it's comedy. Those are people who really go,

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Speaker 1: what the fund happening? Man? Like this is all this

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Speaker 1: is like everything is completely changed. It's like, well know,

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Speaker 1: like people get older, and as people get older, we

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Speaker 1: have more access to experiences and ways to process our

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Speaker 1: experience to be like, oh that all that ship I

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Speaker 1: used to laugh at that was actually really foul. That

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Speaker 1: was actually contributing as someone else being feeling like absolute

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Speaker 1: shit about themselves, and that's not the spirit of what

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Speaker 1: comedy is. Yeah, And they are the ones who are like,

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Speaker 1: I'm just joking, Like what, it's just a joke, I'm

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Speaker 1: just a comedian. Don't pay attention to me. Are the

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Speaker 1: ones who, when that premise is challenged, they're like they

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Speaker 1: get very serious. Yeah, suddenly, what's premisy a massogyn free

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Speaker 1: speech conversation? Yeah? Yeah exactly. If and again, if your

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Speaker 1: material isn't actually pointing out the absurdity of something like

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Speaker 1: and there's a you have actually from a position of

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Speaker 1: like you're morally correctly pointing out an absurd power imbalance,

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Speaker 1: which is what great comedy can do. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself like what is it really saying? Well,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like to them and a lot of

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Speaker 1: these people too, that they are pointing out that absurdity,

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Speaker 1: it's it's for them. It's like they are thinking critics,

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Speaker 1: but it's because they're so threatened and they don't they

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Speaker 1: don't want it to change. And like I just know, dude,

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Speaker 1: I know these fuckers like a lot, like a lot

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Speaker 1: of them, and it's like, yeah, they think that they're

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Speaker 1: the the ones thinking critically and we're all we're all

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Speaker 1: like cheap about it, and I think and what and

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Speaker 1: what like. You couldn't ask for a worse laboratory to

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Speaker 1: extract your data from. Oh my god, being on a

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Speaker 1: stage with a microphone saying something and people laugh, people

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Speaker 1: who already like, are are you going to move past that?

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Speaker 1: No you're not. No, it's it's yeah, the thing that

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Speaker 1: makes you feel like a god, you know, like like yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be enabled the whole time exact saying those

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Speaker 1: things here and that's what it's all about. Was like, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting positive feedback from this, guess saying all then

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Speaker 1: that's the same thing Dave Chappelle said at the Hollywood

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Speaker 1: Bowl when he did premiered his documentary there. He went

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Speaker 1: up there and he was like, Oh, I'm glad, y'all

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Speaker 1: love me, and people like and he's like, if this

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Speaker 1: is what being canceled feels like, then I fucking love it.

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Speaker 1: But you are in a bro that's that's that's only

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Speaker 1: a couple of thousand people there. Yeah, you have a

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Speaker 1: lot of other people, and I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people also trying to take this noisy minority of people. Well,

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Speaker 1: that may be true that maybe mathematically people that are

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Speaker 1: global majority, but it's not an insignificant amount of people.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what's also very dismissive about the

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Speaker 1: whole thing, A very literal bubble that he was in,

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Speaker 1: like people paying to see you with no cell phone, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that sounds everything is above board. Yeah, you know you're

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Speaker 1: on the right side when you're espousing views that Vladimir

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Speaker 1: Putin would agree with. Yeah, you're you're crushing it. Man,

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Speaker 1: Putins like he was there in the audience, said the game.

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Speaker 1: They cut to them real quick. Yet that imbalanced power

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Speaker 1: thing is so true, and it's why to talk about

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Speaker 1: something we mentioned earlier, why slipping on a banana peel

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Speaker 1: is the best joke because it's the ultimate imbalance of

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Speaker 1: power between human beings and grand You know, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're all we'll just slipping on peels. Man, We're all

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Speaker 1: just sleeping on peels. Dude, it's about it's all about

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Speaker 1: sticking the landing and getting back up. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: you guys told teach a comedy class. I like it

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Speaker 1: comedy philosophy. Oh well, I mean because it's true. You

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Speaker 1: look at Chappelle's early ship. He was able to people

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Speaker 1: be like, oh, these jokes are racist. Well, he was

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Speaker 1: actually able to use racism to put broaden a like,

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Speaker 1: to bring up a larger point about the racist dynamics

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Speaker 1: within the United States. And when that and I think

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Speaker 1: he's completely just. I don't know, maybe that's no longer

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Speaker 1: important to him, but I feel like if he for

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Speaker 1: someone again who says like he really cares about trans people,

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Speaker 1: then listen to them, Yes, listen to them and don't

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Speaker 1: be dismissive. And just because you have one person's family

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Speaker 1: and another trans comedian that has your back, that doesn't

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Speaker 1: negate the feelings of many other people. And if you're

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Speaker 1: truly there, if like any person who wants to claim

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Speaker 1: their ally of any you know, liberation movement for people,

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Speaker 1: then you have to really be aware of this kind

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Speaker 1: of ship and know what you are fighting for and

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Speaker 1: fighting against and what progress looks like and what the's

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Speaker 1: sloaning of progress looks like. Yeah, it's just weird because

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Speaker 1: Chapelle has never said something that age poorly before, like

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Speaker 1: when he told us that we should give Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: a chance. That dude, he pulled back on that one,

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Speaker 1: what like a couple of months later or something. That's

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Speaker 1: what I'm hoping that that happens. I don't think so

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Speaker 1: three specials in our own No, I mean at the

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Speaker 1: end of that special he did say something like he said,

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Speaker 1: he's done doing the jokes until you know whatever he said,

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Speaker 1: until I know that we're both laughing together. And it's like,

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Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen. So you're just done doing the

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Speaker 1: jokes now, cool? And I'm sorry, what was the joke? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, all right, Danny, It's been such a pleasure

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Speaker 1: having you on Where can people find you? And folly?

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Speaker 1: I only have Instagram now. I got rid of Twitter, Facebook,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. So just get me on Instagram at

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Speaker 1: Palumbro's p A l U, M B R O S

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Speaker 1: and I post everything there, stuff, I write, food, I cook,

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Speaker 1: places I'll be so that's where to find me. Also

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Speaker 1: sounds like a really dope like sandwich Bros. Yeah, Plumbros, pizza,

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Speaker 1: pasta gelato for an exactly we got them all heroes

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Speaker 1: grinders And is there a tweet or I guess a

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Speaker 1: graham that you've been enjoying. Yeah, well, uh, I haven't

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Speaker 1: checked any of my friends Twitter accounts and like seven months.

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Speaker 1: So this one is. This one is from my dear

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Speaker 1: friend Blair Saki rended the show. I know October thirteenth.

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Speaker 1: Drinking is bad. I do not feel good and that's it.

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Speaker 1: She had she had a rough one on her birthday.

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Speaker 1: I bought us Yeager shots because I correctly assessed that

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Speaker 1: she was someone that has done a lot of Yager

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Speaker 1: bonds and she didn't do it. I had to do

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Speaker 1: them both. That sounds and I felt invisible, Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: doing gargoyles on Westwood. Miles Where can people find you?

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Speaker 1: What is a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me Twitter,

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Speaker 1: Instagram at Miles of Gray and also the other pod

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Speaker 1: for twenty day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra Where are we Talk?

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Speaker 1: Ninety day Fiance? Some tweets that I like. The first

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Speaker 1: one is from Elizabeth C. McLaughlin at e C. McLaughlin tweeted,

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Speaker 1: It's astonishing how many major unions are either striking or

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Speaker 1: about to strike and how little major media is covering it.

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Speaker 1: Huh Yeah, it's like they Yeah, it's a little bit

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Speaker 1: weird there because yeah, like in New York taxi cabs too. There.

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Speaker 1: I think they shut down the Brooklyn Bridge on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Callie Joey Gray at Callie Joy just because right now,

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Speaker 1: Pete Buddha Jedge has been you know, he he took

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Speaker 1: I guess fucking paternity leave, and the right wing machine

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Speaker 1: is like paternity leave what and like you have like

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Speaker 1: all these other like pundits mean like I'm barely around

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Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, like really diminishing fatherhood. So CALLI

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Speaker 1: tet wow to see conservatives talks about talk about how

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Speaker 1: useless fathers are. M that's awesome. Yeah, interesting, that's funny.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. O'Brien. Uh,

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Speaker 1: let me just I'm just going to the front page

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Speaker 1: of the New York Times and searching the words strike.

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Speaker 1: Huh there Uh, some tweet I've been enjoying. Andrew Nado

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Speaker 1: tweeted me, most people don't use their middle names. Machine Kelly,

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Speaker 1: it just feels dumb this way our funk tweeted exasperated

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Speaker 1: voice Machine you and an argument with the same joke,

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Speaker 1: but wow, back to back home runs. You can find

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Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. Brian. You can find

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Speaker 1: us on Twitter at daily zeke Geist. We're at the

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Speaker 1: Daily Zegeist on Instagram and hey, we have a Facebook

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Speaker 1: fan page and a website daily zey guys dot com

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Speaker 1: where we post our episodes on our foot notes where

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Speaker 1: we link off to the information that we talked about

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Speaker 1: today's episode, as well as a song that we think

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Speaker 1: you might enjoy Mileswood song. Are we sending people to

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Speaker 1: go check? This is a band called Gotts Street Park

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Speaker 1: Geo t t s you know, another UK band, and

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Speaker 1: they've produced stuff for like Caliches and Reggie Snow a

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Speaker 1: few other artists, but Man are really really really great group.

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Speaker 1: And this track called Diego, it sounds like again, like

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Speaker 1: something that would have been sampled in like nineties hip hop,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's an original tune. And yeah, there's just

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Speaker 1: it's just good, good head nod in music for your week.

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Speaker 1: So check this out. Got Street Park with Diego? Oh right, well,

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Speaker 1: we'll send you over there to listen to that. The

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Speaker 1: Daily Zyka is a production of I Heart Radio. For

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Speaker 1: That is going to do it for us this morning,

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Speaker 1: but we're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you all then Bye,