Speaker 1: Well bow, we are back.
Speaker 2: We are ready to recap episode three of the inaugural
Speaker 2: season of Dancing with the Stars. The next pro already
Speaker 2: three episodes in.
Speaker 3: It is getting spicy.
Speaker 2: It is like getting spicy. They did not hold back
Speaker 2: this episode. Speaking of spice, one of us made some
Speaker 2: headlines from their takes last week, and don't I don't
Speaker 2: love pointing out which one of us it was, but
Speaker 2: I will say it was not the one of us
Speaker 2: that came in.
Speaker 1: Eighth place last season.
Speaker 2: So what are you feeling when you wake up and
Speaker 2: see Valschmerkovsky headlines?
Speaker 3: I got nervous, do you? I mean? I mean, yeah, listen,
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't want to hurt a people's feelings.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: So whether those are the feelings of the person I'm discussing,
Speaker 3: or the family of the people, or the people that
Speaker 3: love the person I'm discussing, you know, it's not I mean,
Speaker 3: it's hard to say it's not personal because I'm literally
Speaker 3: speaking about the person. But this is just my reflection.
Speaker 3: You don't got to take it either. I'm not like
Speaker 3: banging my chest saying that this is the truth. This
Speaker 3: is what I see and in my from where I'm
Speaker 3: standing there's you know, my perspective and what kind of
Speaker 3: value I would want to give this person. Yes, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not here to knock anybody down. So when I
Speaker 3: see it, I'm conflicted because I want to end I'm like,
Speaker 3: I didn't want to ruffle those feathers. But on the
Speaker 3: other end, I'm mom. You know, I'm happy people are listening,
Speaker 3: tuning in and are excited to you know, broad in
Speaker 3: their ballroom dance perspective, dancing to the star's perspective.
Speaker 2: Well, I love that you stand on your business because
Speaker 2: you know what is for the show, and you're not
Speaker 2: saying anything that isn't something you would say to their face.
Speaker 3: No, I would say, yeah, you would say it to
Speaker 3: their face. Totally, totally. I mean, and if you can't,
Speaker 3: you know, that's a very cowardly way of going about
Speaker 3: sharing your thoughts about someone. All the thoughts that I
Speaker 3: share publicly or thoughts that I would share privately to
Speaker 3: that person. Now, certain private thoughts should stay private, but
Speaker 3: this isn't one of those cases. This is a show
Speaker 3: that's broadcast, it's millions of people right now, and this
Speaker 3: is someone that's trying to win the position and the
Speaker 3: opportunity to work alongside myself and other pros. Yeah. So yeah,
Speaker 3: free game, baby.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: Also, anybody who listened to our show and then looks
Speaker 2: at the headlines also knows they are also a lot
Speaker 2: of clickbait.
Speaker 3: No, totally, totally, and and that's the frustration. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: I appreciate that for the most part, people took the
Speaker 3: time to understand in the broader context and my delivery.
Speaker 3: I just think it's important. You know, it's yes, of course,
Speaker 3: it's what you say that's important. But how you say,
Speaker 3: at what time you say, the effort that you put
Speaker 3: into thoughtfully say it, I think also matters.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars the next Pro Season one, episode three,
Speaker 2: we open with a recap of episode two. For those
Speaker 2: keeping score at home, Benji was eliminated, Robert our host
Speaker 2: and judges Surely and Mark ballast enter and Robert gets
Speaker 2: a wellness check from the contestants. Everyone agrees that it
Speaker 2: has been a tough journey so far, and Mark reminds
Speaker 2: them sometimes you have to be selfless to make your
Speaker 2: celebrity look good. And that's some pretty good advice, right,
Speaker 2: Well totally.
Speaker 3: I mean that's the mantra of Bullram dance. As far
Speaker 3: as you know, from the masculine side, we are taught,
Speaker 3: if we are taught by good teachers from day one,
Speaker 3: that our job is to present our partners, our ladies.
Speaker 3: And you know, so much of the movement is inspired
Speaker 3: by that philosophy, and I think I spoke on it
Speaker 3: last week when I talk about the shadow position. Whenever
Speaker 3: we have side by side choreography, the male is always
Speaker 3: in shadow position. And because of that philosophy, not because
Speaker 3: he's sacrificing anything, but just because these are the roles
Speaker 3: that we are playing together here in this in this
Speaker 3: team activity of bone dance. That's why I said what
Speaker 3: I said about Benji and his role in the room.
Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean that he couldn't shine in that style.
Speaker 3: Of course he could, but that wouldn't be the style
Speaker 3: that strategically he shined the brightest thing. That's so it's
Speaker 3: all relative. These are all excellent dancers, but it's how
Speaker 3: great you are next to the guy next to you
Speaker 3: or the girl next to you. So I loved what
Speaker 3: Mark said, and yeah, I'm excited. I wanted to get
Speaker 3: into this episode because there's a lot of redemption as
Speaker 3: far as you know we spoke about aj I have
Speaker 3: you know, I think I'd surprise some listeners about my
Speaker 3: perspective on him this episode. And yeah, the new drama
Speaker 3: that unfolds. I just love how much drama is in
Speaker 3: this show.
Speaker 2: It is drama filled. Yeah, it started right from the beginning.
Speaker 2: It was the moment we have all been waiting for.
Speaker 2: Our guest judge, the wonderful Britt Stewart arrives in a
Speaker 2: stunning red dress with a troop behind her. Contestant Selena
Speaker 2: is thrilled to see her. We've heard from Selena before
Speaker 2: that Britt is her favorite pro. She's talked about the
Speaker 2: fact that there's not a lot of black ballroom dancers
Speaker 2: represented on TV, and so Britt is one of the
Speaker 2: main reasons she's.
Speaker 1: Invested in the show.
Speaker 2: And I have heard from all of you many times
Speaker 2: that Britt is not only one of the world's best dancers,
Speaker 2: but that she is a very gifted choreographer. And we
Speaker 2: saw it here. What do you want to say about
Speaker 2: the queen that is Britt's class class?
Speaker 3: And I think Britt, it's synonymous with Brit Stewart is
Speaker 3: the word class class. The way she handles herself and
Speaker 3: the way she communicates, which I love because I think
Speaker 3: the you know, that group of Next Prosy, they got
Speaker 3: a sense of what a certain professionalism feels and sounds
Speaker 3: like how you conduct yourself in the room, which was incredible.
Speaker 3: So Brit did a great job team dances. What else? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, she's an incredible choreographer. I'm excited for this challenge.
Speaker 3: I think it's perfect that we touch on kind of
Speaker 3: just a different a different challenge and how that highlights
Speaker 3: the different qualities and different people who can work in
Speaker 3: a team. And otherwise as far as I guess, you know,
Speaker 3: back to Brit trailblazing. Yes, there's not enough black and
Speaker 3: brown representation in ballroom dance. Yeah, you know, I'm not
Speaker 3: naive to the fact that it's an exclusive you know,
Speaker 3: besides the popularity of it, it's an expensive activity. Shout
Speaker 3: out to Pierre Delaine who take the lead. Is based
Speaker 3: on that movie with Antonio Benderiz. You know, this is
Speaker 3: a dancer that dedicated himself to teaching and after school
Speaker 3: programs all over the public school system in New York City,
Speaker 3: the Greater New York City area. Again what the movie
Speaker 3: is about, and he introduced partner dancing to a community
Speaker 3: that otherwise just doesn't have access to that totally. You know,
Speaker 3: I try to find time to do the same. I'm
Speaker 3: inspired by that, you know, the Latin. It's ironic to
Speaker 3: me that I'm a professional Latin dancer. You know, this
Speaker 3: is a community that adopted this Ukrainian kid, and I'm
Speaker 3: enjoying a very fruitful career because of it. So I
Speaker 3: try to feel compelled to give back to that community
Speaker 3: who dances authentically but never gets access to a high
Speaker 3: level of education in the sport. So I think that's
Speaker 3: why I'm excited for Britt when she joined the Kios
Speaker 3: and the Brandons and hopefully you know, the Sosas and
Speaker 3: more and more, you know, like I said, I love
Speaker 3: the fact that Schermerkovsky's Chigiences and Subchenko's and all these
Speaker 3: Eastern European names. But it's fun to see, like I said,
Speaker 3: the black and brown community represent another show.
Speaker 2: Well said Well, Britt performs to a cover of All
Speaker 2: shook Ups, surrounded by the troop, and as always, she's magical.
Speaker 2: Robert is equally impressed, and Britt announces the challenge for
Speaker 2: the week. It involves the ever popular element of dancing
Speaker 2: with the stars, the group dance, most notably those big
Speaker 2: show openers you guys are famous for. Now, now, as
Speaker 2: someone who has participated in these numbers now for years,
Speaker 2: tell the listener what it's like prepping for the who choreographs?
Speaker 1: How long do you have?
Speaker 2: Like, are you also doing this right alongside all your
Speaker 2: celeb work and choreographing for that week and the next week?
Speaker 3: Totally? Totally No, it's a huge undertaking, but it's exciting,
Speaker 3: you know. To me, it's an opportunity for us to
Speaker 3: first of all, become a student, to be directed by
Speaker 3: a choreographer that's invited. Sometimes yes, it's in house, right,
Speaker 3: so it's one of the pros taking the lead choreograph
Speaker 3: and a big number. But it's not me doing the
Speaker 3: prepare you know the prepare work, right, I'm just showing
Speaker 3: up and I'm total what to do. And typically it's
Speaker 3: really cool dance moves. The issue is that it's at
Speaker 3: six in the morning on a Friday, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: and it's three hours and you have three hours to
Speaker 3: learn the entire piece and shoot the wide and the
Speaker 3: wide is kind of the final take for the director
Speaker 3: production and everybody to kind of you know, figure out
Speaker 3: how to compliment it. If it's a Friday and it's
Speaker 3: a Tuesday show, you understand how important that Friday three
Speaker 3: why it is right? And so that pressure was really
Speaker 3: well communicated in the challenge. I love that. I love
Speaker 3: that they got a chance to really feel the pressure
Speaker 3: and the pressure of doing it clean right now. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean that's the process. But they did a great job.
Speaker 3: I mean, you saw how again. I have so many
Speaker 3: sports analogies, but really it's whether it's sports or in
Speaker 3: anything high pressure. Sorry that it is so loud out
Speaker 3: in the studio in the closet, I know.
Speaker 1: I love this.
Speaker 2: You are at the time, obviously, and tell them to shut.
Speaker 1: Up, open that door.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, simmer down, we're doing a podcast here.
Speaker 1: Gosh, work doesn't stop for some of us.
Speaker 3: They flipped me off. You can't hear it, but but
Speaker 3: I could see.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, send them, send them a leaf.
Speaker 3: I will.
Speaker 2: This week, we got a little bit of a shocker
Speaker 2: because the contestants are told that they are going to
Speaker 2: recreate the dance they just saw Britt perform. That's a
Speaker 2: nice little surprise.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 2: And then we get a confession interview from contestant Adele,
Speaker 2: who admits that her background is in competitive ballroom, not group,
Speaker 2: so she's feeling nervous. How are these two totally different skills?
Speaker 2: It's always okay, why why?
Speaker 3: That's why again, you it's so hard to cast for
Speaker 3: the show is because there's so many different hats that
Speaker 3: you have to perfect and specialize in that you wear
Speaker 3: on the show. It's a very unique hybrid of a
Speaker 3: ballroom dance professional. Yeah, so competitive ballroom dance you're perfecting
Speaker 3: pretty much the same seven moves. And I say that
Speaker 3: loosely obviously, but it's about execution. It's like figure skating
Speaker 3: in the Olympics. Yes, there's some artistry, but really you're
Speaker 3: trying to get to the heavy hitters, right, who can
Speaker 3: hit the four axle whatever, Who can do the thing
Speaker 3: and the thing. That's what competitive ballroom dances. But that's
Speaker 3: where you get, you know, the good ones, not the
Speaker 3: ones that dabbled in it, but the ones that really
Speaker 3: competed and won you. You could see the velocity, you
Speaker 3: can see it, but there's very few. There's very little
Speaker 3: time for artistry, creativity or individuality. You kind of find
Speaker 3: that in between the cracks. But really you are just
Speaker 3: executing excellence, and it's really a game of millimeters, and
Speaker 3: hopefully you have a little bit of a performer in
Speaker 3: you as well. Then that sets you know, if you
Speaker 3: got a little swag, little seasoning too, all that mastery,
Speaker 3: you're killing it. But again, we're not exercising constantly different languages,
Speaker 3: hearing the same song and challenging yourself to speak a
Speaker 3: different language to the body. We have one language, not
Speaker 3: even a language, one dialect, and we just speak it
Speaker 3: to the best of all. That's competitive ballroom dance, right,
Speaker 3: you know, then you have a then you have the
Speaker 3: broader convention dance kid that now you know I've been
Speaker 3: a part of for seven years with Jen, we teach
Speaker 3: at a convention for many years. That's how I know Selena.
Speaker 3: I know Selena for a long time too, not from
Speaker 3: the ballroom competitive world, but I know I've seen her
Speaker 3: shine for a long time at the highest level, but
Speaker 3: at the highest level of speaking languages like jazz and
Speaker 3: ballet and enough hip hop and enough tap to you know,
Speaker 3: to really be a master of all of these languages,
Speaker 3: even at a young age. So that's why when we
Speaker 3: get into this episode and I see the clashes of
Speaker 3: those worlds Right now, the ego start to play, right,
Speaker 3: this kid won Black Bull and this girl won this
Speaker 3: and this, But they're looking at Selena, and Selena's like, girl,
Speaker 3: I've been the one for a very long time in
Speaker 3: a very big world. You've just never been a part
Speaker 3: of it, right, And these are the qualities that I
Speaker 3: bring to the table, which is picks up choreography in
Speaker 3: five seconds. That's a discipline that is exercised over time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, even if the movement is foreign for her body,
Speaker 3: you could see that she's still picking it up and
Speaker 3: downloading it very quickly and is ready to perform. Whereas
Speaker 3: for borum dancers, because it's the same routine you're you're
Speaker 3: really working on for years. Yeah, yeah, years. Imagine your
Speaker 3: Cha cha or your fox shot. But you did it
Speaker 3: not for three days, then performed in front of millions,
Speaker 3: then forgot it. You did it for ten months before
Speaker 3: you and saw a competition for it.
Speaker 2: I for sure would have been able to do more
Speaker 2: than just open my arm if I had ten months.
Speaker 1: Well maybe not that.
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm saying, well, no, you did so much
Speaker 3: more in just four days. But you I don't know
Speaker 3: if that relates to other things. I mean, it's like baseball,
Speaker 3: and it's not like baseball and banana bal but like
Speaker 3: you got to be an entertainer too. And then there's
Speaker 3: a third flip which is very important, which is now
Speaker 3: a whole difference. I guess quality that separates the next people,
Speaker 3: and that's teaching of you. You could be a superstar.
Speaker 3: Not all great professionals translate as well in coaching. You
Speaker 3: see that in sports, you see that in dance. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, you could be an incredible performing that has
Speaker 3: natural ability that you just you don't even know how
Speaker 3: to explain. You're like, I don't oh, I just feel it,
Speaker 3: and some people just feel it that you can't communicate that,
Speaker 3: you can't teach that. And sometimes the dancers that never
Speaker 3: really were the special ones that had to really work hard,
Speaker 3: really had to come up with philosophies on how to
Speaker 3: go from A to B right, those end up being
Speaker 3: sometimes the best coaches, the best teachers. They've done a
Speaker 3: lot more analysis. And then on top of that experience,
Speaker 3: if you've never if you've never been nervous about charging
Speaker 3: people money for forty five minutes of your time, then
Speaker 3: you don't know that sense of responsibility right, besides their time,
Speaker 3: their money, their expectation, the studios expectation, you know, meeting
Speaker 3: those pressures when you walk in and you meet a
Speaker 3: stranger and on the spot, you have to know how
Speaker 3: to communicate, how to analyze, and how to give feedback,
Speaker 3: and then how to execute that feedback and make that
Speaker 3: person be a little better.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: If you've never done that part, not performed, not dance,
Speaker 3: not but that part, then you are, Yeah, you're in
Speaker 3: for a real treat here on dancing with the start.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a good point. Well.
Speaker 2: With that, the hopefuls leave for group rehearsal, where Britt
Speaker 2: swings by and starts teaching the number. She focuses mostly
Speaker 2: on synchronicity and spatial awareness. We see some immediate spills
Speaker 2: and mistakes, most notably by Adele, who kind of predicted
Speaker 2: that she was going to have issues here. Natalie seems
Speaker 2: to be thriving. She likes working together. She's fast paced
Speaker 2: with choreo, as does Selena. And the first session ends
Speaker 2: and the girls hang back for more prep and we
Speaker 2: see some headbutting between Selena and Nina, which is never
Speaker 2: a great sign for group numbers.
Speaker 3: Here's so we'll get to the selena. They got get
Speaker 3: to that beat. Oh, we fully get into the human
Speaker 3: part of this thing. Back to the dance. You know,
Speaker 3: the important things as far as going into a group number.
Speaker 3: You have to be clean and precise and you know,
Speaker 3: allude back to what Mark said, it's like when you
Speaker 3: serve the bigger collective, you look better. And that's the
Speaker 3: whole point. It's not about you standing out in this
Speaker 3: particular moment in time. It's about you become in uniform
Speaker 3: with your team and man, you got to be a
Speaker 3: certain person for that as well. You got to a
Speaker 3: be disciplined enough to want to be to be clean
Speaker 3: and take those directions. But you also have to have
Speaker 3: the humility to think about the broader group. And a
Speaker 3: lot of people don't prioritize that at all, especially on
Speaker 3: our show where you have cuts of camera. You know,
Speaker 3: selfish dancers, they'll just wait for that cut and then
Speaker 3: be back to you know. No, it's about sacrificing yourself
Speaker 3: for the for the greater good, at least in these
Speaker 3: group dances. And I think that's another quality that the
Speaker 3: Convention world teaches because there's a lot of studio group
Speaker 3: numbers and those those teachers are sticklers. I mean, if
Speaker 3: we said forty five, then it's forty five every time,
Speaker 3: not when I feel it, not when I know. It's
Speaker 3: very robotic when it comes to executing those things. OK.
Speaker 3: And in the born world, we don't have that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's about individuality, it's about your team, your partner. But
Speaker 3: really that's that's where it ends. And then it's about
Speaker 3: setting yourself apart from all of these other copies doing
Speaker 3: the same seven steps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Hold on, we're not going to skip We're not going
Speaker 3: to skip over the Salina.
Speaker 2: Nina well to see them the way they are talking
Speaker 2: to each other. You know what, I think Nina suffers
Speaker 2: from a little bit of what I think I suffer
Speaker 2: from in my personal life, which is I don't hear
Speaker 2: my tone always, which I think she in her mind,
Speaker 2: I think she thinks she's just saying something in a
Speaker 2: factual way and doesn't hear that she's saying it and
Speaker 2: what comes across as a patronizing way.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I mean I have a very renowned sibling
Speaker 3: that that you know about his delivery sometimes.
Speaker 2: And if you don't hear it, if you like I
Speaker 2: don't think Max and I can do it too.
Speaker 1: I don't think Max or I hear it.
Speaker 3: No, no, and and totally and yes, you're completely right,
Speaker 3: Nina is you know watching her, I know exactly who
Speaker 3: that is, not because I know who she is, but
Speaker 3: I know that prototype of an individual and not who
Speaker 3: box her in. But I grew up in the Eastern
Speaker 3: European tri state Brooklyn, New York, New Jersey Philly area.
Speaker 3: You know, I understand that there's very little time for
Speaker 3: nuance and explanation. It's like, this is what I want,
Speaker 3: this is how I feel. Do you want something else?
Speaker 3: Tell me cool. I'm not gonna ask you. I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna say please and thank you. Let's just get it.
Speaker 3: And why I said southern galvocause' selena as far as
Speaker 3: I understand as a Southern Cali girl, very respectful, very
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, she's competitive, but it's I mean,
Speaker 3: Jen and I have these conversations all the time, you know,
Speaker 3: where I'm just having a conversation. She's thinking that we're
Speaker 3: we're having a confrontation, right, But having all said all that,
Speaker 3: that's yeah, that's not that's not what happened though, And
Speaker 3: that's not an excuse. And I'm gonna just shout it out.
Speaker 3: Nina was incredibly selfish and unprofessional. And it's funny coming
Speaker 3: off of a week with the Benji situation not learning
Speaker 3: a single thing about humility, you know. So again, I
Speaker 3: don't want this podcast and everything I owe my feedback
Speaker 3: to be about humility because we will get to a juh.
Speaker 3: It's a huge quality you're working. At the end of
Speaker 3: the day, this isn't your show. You are part of
Speaker 3: a collective and I'm just telling you and you could
Speaker 3: you know, vouch for that. Yeah. In this business, for
Speaker 3: every talented person, there's one hundred other talented people, right,
Speaker 3: It's all about how you make people feel around you
Speaker 3: and what you're like working with because if it's not good,
Speaker 3: like if it hurts working with you, next yeah you're thrankfully.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are one hundred people ready to take your spot.
Speaker 3: And on the flip side, that's why you have a
Speaker 3: culture breeding like yes man and yes no. Look it's
Speaker 3: a balance, man, Yeah, it's a balance. You have to
Speaker 3: be proud for sure and have self respect of course
Speaker 3: after you earn it. Yeah, yeah, you know, and right
Speaker 3: now you just started so I just feel like, yeah,
Speaker 3: and I guess we'll get to it. Because in the
Speaker 3: house they have a conversation and Salina kind of like
Speaker 3: brings that up one more time, and here's an opportunity
Speaker 3: to just be like, oh man, I hear you. Wow, Okay, listen,
Speaker 3: those are not my intentions. I know this is a competition,
Speaker 3: but I'm not trying to be that person. If I
Speaker 3: was that person, I'm sorry. That's not what I met.
Speaker 1: When they talk about it at the house though.
Speaker 2: The look on her face genuine shock though, because she
Speaker 2: didn't think that's where it was going. And that's what
Speaker 2: made me realize. I don't think she hears herself at all.
Speaker 2: I don't think when we watch it and you see it,
Speaker 2: you're like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: She cut her off.
Speaker 2: She wasn't letting Selena finished sentences. She was saying things
Speaker 2: with a really like no, what I mean is and
Speaker 2: we hear it. I don't think she hears it. I
Speaker 2: don't think she's I don't think she's perceiving herself.
Speaker 3: You're giving her a lot of grace, and I am.
Speaker 2: I am because when she went to see the look
Speaker 2: of shock on her face, I could tell like, oh,
Speaker 2: she she wasn't aware that she had been you know,
Speaker 2: she doesn't hear herself, and so I think, then, you know,
Speaker 2: I hope that when she's like, wow, two weeks back
Speaker 2: to back, I've been told, I will be interested to
Speaker 2: see if next week, if she has a different delivery,
Speaker 2: or if she's just never gonna learn from her.
Speaker 1: We're rooting. I'm rooting for all of them. We all
Speaker 1: this is a this is a journey.
Speaker 3: Of selfic if it happens again, we were rooting for you.
Speaker 1: We were roading exactly.
Speaker 2: So then we get some alone time with Tristan, and
Speaker 2: he's admittedly having trouble. Britt is concerned with what she
Speaker 2: is seeing not only from Tristan but from Nina as well. Stephanie, however,
Speaker 2: is very comfortable.
Speaker 3: That's the other thing. It's like, you cannot be the
Speaker 3: weakest link in talking to most smack right, you cannot. Yes,
Speaker 3: you're right again, we don't get to AJ.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're just dangling the care of AJ. You can't wait,
Speaker 2: we can't wait. So Stephanie is comfortable. Group is old
Speaker 2: hat to her, especially since she was in the IRL
Speaker 2: season thirty three troop.
Speaker 1: This is her wheelhouse.
Speaker 2: But then she accidentally smacks Natalie right in the face. Clearly,
Speaker 2: this is a freak accident, but the impact was serious.
Speaker 2: Can we talk about group dance injuries? How common are they?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they happen. Look, that's spatial awareness. And
Speaker 3: I know the contact happened from Stephanie to Natalie.
Speaker 1: But Natalie was in the wrong spot.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, this is a fifty to fifty collision,
Speaker 3: right right, Yeah, you know so yeah, I mean that
Speaker 3: was a really I mean unfortunate moment, but a great
Speaker 3: TV moment as well, because you saw Stephanie really you know,
Speaker 3: you saw a real emotion there and it stinks to
Speaker 3: be in that position and it happened. It just I
Speaker 3: don't recall anything like that on our show. Right, People
Speaker 3: get hurt, people get hit, but to ye be injured
Speaker 3: like that, Yeah, that was the first.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it escalates pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: Britt brings out an ice pack and she's already Natalie
Speaker 2: is already developing a black eye, her hands get tingly
Speaker 2: and she is in a lot of pain. And then
Speaker 2: outcome the producers. Stephanie feels terrible. We see her doing
Speaker 2: an interview and she is crying and it just basically
Speaker 2: stinks all around. Yeah, and then here comes the ambulance,
Speaker 2: Natalie is given pain meds and she is taken out
Speaker 2: on a stretcher. So then minus Natalie story is back
Speaker 2: to practice. I know, well we had it in season
Speaker 2: thirty four of Dancing with the Stars. We also had
Speaker 2: an ambulance and a stretcher moment with Elaine.
Speaker 3: Some dances a contact sport.
Speaker 1: I mean, it really is.
Speaker 2: We saw the amount of injuries I saw you guys
Speaker 2: deal with on tour. Yeah, what you're able to still
Speaker 2: do after? I mean you had you went to the
Speaker 2: emergency room, you had vertigo, you.
Speaker 3: Needed to have cool.
Speaker 1: I mean that's not as cool.
Speaker 2: You had to have your crystals shaken back into place
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 1: So crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean again, it's it's like the injuries
Speaker 3: tend to be you know, ligaments or or joints. It's
Speaker 3: from not wear and tear, but certain things like that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: very rarely do we get rocked in the head or
Speaker 3: the face and have to sit out, you know. And
Speaker 3: I think this tour, Britt got quote an elbow to
Speaker 3: the face.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, you in the eye.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Yeah. So again, I mean this high energy,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of adrenaline and again those three hour rehearsals.
Speaker 3: You really don't have a lot of time. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, it happens.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: It's just so wild too to see a fellow contestant, okay,
Speaker 2: a stretcher. All right, guys, we've got an hour and
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes now, you got to get right back to it, right, yeah, you,
Speaker 2: let's not think about it.
Speaker 1: We got to get back to dance.
Speaker 3: I'd just be strategically out of place all the time.
Speaker 3: I'm just the only one left.
Speaker 1: It's just me. Everyone get out of way.
Speaker 2: So Nina is working on her timing, something that was
Speaker 2: criticized in week one, and she is feeling the pressure,
Speaker 2: and then Britt has a huge surprise for the group.
Speaker 2: It's time to perform right now. They've had three hours
Speaker 2: to learn the dance, which is the amount of time
Speaker 2: you pros get to learn the opening number for the show.
Speaker 2: I am completely unwell at the thought of that. I
Speaker 2: don't know how you guys do it, but surely and
Speaker 2: Mark walk in and that's right, the real judges will
Speaker 2: be watching, and the contestants are freaking out. No one
Speaker 2: feels like they're at one hundred percent, and aj is
Speaker 2: worried this is going to be a surprise elimination. Yeah,
Speaker 2: did you think someone was going to go home right now?
Speaker 3: Yes? Okay, yes and no, yes if Natalie wasn't if
Speaker 3: Natalie was still there, I think the plans words to
Speaker 3: eliminate somebody. Then.
Speaker 2: Ah, interesting, that's a lot of things TV for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they pulled an audible, but it also revealed a
Speaker 3: real big moment with Kristen. And yeah, they did get
Speaker 3: a chance to perform it, and they did get the
Speaker 3: feedback and they got saved.
Speaker 1: Yes they did, but they waste no time.
Speaker 2: The dance starts to all shook up and we start
Speaker 2: seeing some issues quickly. What were your thoughts watching the
Speaker 2: group dance? I was still very impressed because I can't
Speaker 2: believe that you guys could do a whole number like
Speaker 2: that in just three hours. But were you impressed or
Speaker 2: did you see lots of cracks?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I saw a lot of I mean I could
Speaker 3: be both. I was impressed because it wasn't an easy
Speaker 3: routine and it is hard to pick everything up in
Speaker 3: three hours. I'm also not you know, like I said,
Speaker 3: we typically at six in the morning when we're learning
Speaker 3: these things, and certain choreography gets more complicated than others
Speaker 3: for what they were given. You know, it's intermediate advance
Speaker 3: in the sense of like the challenge, and I thought
Speaker 3: they did great for the most part, from beginning to
Speaker 3: the end. They did it. But then, yeah, you see
Speaker 3: the cracks. You see certain people just not not being
Speaker 3: ready for that moment, you know. Unfortunately Tristan was one
Speaker 3: of those people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cuts right to the chase and she asks who
Speaker 2: the weakest link was and surely notes that Tristan was
Speaker 2: entirely off time wise, and Mark points out that Nina
Speaker 2: was too, And it feels like they are about to
Speaker 2: be kicked off the show, but instead brit says they
Speaker 2: will not be on the chopping block just yet. There
Speaker 2: will be a second challenge where they could redeem themselves.
Speaker 2: The dancers huddle and Tristan is visibly upset, and it's
Speaker 2: very nice to see everyone who comes and supports him,
Speaker 2: including Mark and Shirley.
Speaker 1: It's a nice little moment. Yeah, yeah, have.
Speaker 2: You ever have you ever been the emotional one in
Speaker 2: a group of dancers that need some some hugs?
Speaker 3: Was I receiving the hugs? Yeah? I in private? You
Speaker 3: cry the shower, Yeah, go in a closet, do a podcast.
Speaker 3: And cry cry, yeah, I mean, it happens again. It happens,
Speaker 3: but it's been happening, so I know, you know, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: so I could just I could already see it. You know,
Speaker 3: these challenges are a weekly challenge. It's not like, you know,
Speaker 3: and now, choreograph one thing you're going to do one time. No, no, no,
Speaker 3: this is like every week. This is baseline. You have
Speaker 3: to be able to pick it up and then you
Speaker 3: have to be able to execute it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That night back at the house, everyone admits this has
Speaker 2: been tough, and it breaks down a bit when Selena
Speaker 2: says that she thinks Nina doesn't have respect for her.
Speaker 2: Nina apologizes, but does not fully agree with the critique.
Speaker 3: Is that called an apology?
Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't really call it. She's like, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry you felt that way. That's what she says. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry you.
Speaker 2: Felt that way, which is not really an apology.
Speaker 3: I will say this, I mean, including Nina, like so
Speaker 3: many great characters, like if I'm just looking at the
Speaker 3: sh show for the show's sake, it's so good and
Speaker 3: they did a great job. I mean, and they're also dynamic,
Speaker 3: whether they're qualified or not. I like this show. I
Speaker 3: liked them and how much they're willing to be themselves.
Speaker 3: I also like that, so you know, for better or
Speaker 3: for worse. Yeah, that exchange was I already told you,
Speaker 3: you know, lack of awareness just not and that's okay.
Speaker 3: I mean I didn't I wasn't born Aristotle. You know,
Speaker 3: this took years to refine, so hopefully.
Speaker 1: That wasn't built in a day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, no, there's just just not reading the room,
Speaker 3: not reading the rehearsal room or that room.
Speaker 1: They may have cut it, of course.
Speaker 3: But totally and I want to give her that grace too.
Speaker 2: They I would have wondered if she I mean I
Speaker 2: would have liked to have seen her ask other people
Speaker 2: around her, did you did? Did I seem like I
Speaker 2: was being disrespectful to you? And I would have loved
Speaker 2: for other people.
Speaker 3: Well you see and reacts that people are like, why, yes,
Speaker 3: she's not really even Yeah, so that that's for me.
Speaker 3: That's a collective when she's when Selena says it, people
Speaker 3: weren't like I know only you felt that. So anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 3: well I've got to watch you gotta watch the show.
Speaker 1: It's so good. You gotta see what comes next.
Speaker 2: Uh So, Nina is not sure how to work this out,
Speaker 2: but she says she'll bite the bullet and push through
Speaker 2: the uncomfortable feelings.
Speaker 1: And have you ever been in a.
Speaker 2: Group dance situation with a majority of people you don't
Speaker 2: feel like you get along with?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure those dynamics are difficult, totally.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean again, that's just the world doesn't revolve
Speaker 3: around me, and it doesn't necessarily is filtered through my lens.
Speaker 3: And you know, I've I had one time that I
Speaker 3: was offered a gig and one time I flexed the Okay,
Speaker 3: i'll do it, but if so and so doesn't person there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and they honored that because I was you know, a
Speaker 3: big deal and that was awful and I would never
Speaker 3: do that again. I haven't obviously ever done that again.
Speaker 2: But did you feel that way right away, like when
Speaker 2: you then went into the situation, did you immediately regret
Speaker 2: having done it?
Speaker 1: Or is it something that with time?
Speaker 3: Because I don't want to be of influence, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't want to use my influence to take something
Speaker 3: away from people. I want to give it to people. Now, granted,
Speaker 3: taking that place away from that person gave that place
Speaker 3: to somebody with a better attitude and just a more
Speaker 3: generous spirit when it comes to whatever I was doing.
Speaker 3: But I just don't want to get it to that.
Speaker 3: I never want to conduct myself that way. But I
Speaker 3: haven't said that. Back to the original conversation, regardless of
Speaker 3: what field you are, it's about how you make people
Speaker 3: feel right, and a lot of times, unfortunately people never
Speaker 3: even I'm not going to even say that to your face.
Speaker 3: The fact that Selena, for instance, in this Nina situation,
Speaker 3: not to kind of be the same conversation, but the
Speaker 3: fact that she even addressed it and was like, hey,
Speaker 3: this is how I feel. You're not even going to
Speaker 3: get that right. Typically you're just gonna bless your heart,
Speaker 3: you know, and walk away. And it's just like, I
Speaker 3: never want to work with that person again, right, you know.
Speaker 3: So I try to treat people with kindness. I try
Speaker 3: to also be an example of that, but but yeah,
Speaker 3: you got to show up the right attitude.
Speaker 2: It's now day two of rehearsals. Robert and Britt arrive
Speaker 2: and Natalie is still out, which is obviously going to
Speaker 2: put her at a major disadvantage. They announced Challenge number
Speaker 2: two is creating a group dance, and I had a
Speaker 2: real Leonardo DiCaprio meme moment here where I was pointing
Speaker 2: at the screen because we got to see our group
Speaker 2: dance from season thirty four, and I my group dance
Speaker 2: experience was it's maybe my favorite week of the entire show.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 2: I thought it was very interesting to see the way
Speaker 2: you all work together. So I wasn't on your team,
Speaker 2: so not you, but the pros that were on my team.
Speaker 2: Seeing the way you guys communicate with each other when
Speaker 2: you take a lead versus when you decide to let
Speaker 2: other people share their perspectives on it and then decide
Speaker 2: to take a step back. I felt like the pros
Speaker 2: that I had were Everyone was very open to constructive criticism.
Speaker 2: Everyone wanted to make sure everyone was shining. It was
Speaker 2: just it was the most fun. It was also very
Speaker 2: overwhelming because it was very fast, and I was on
Speaker 2: a team of celebs that included Jordan Chiles.
Speaker 1: And Whitney Levitt. We have Robert and Dylan, so I
Speaker 1: mean I.
Speaker 2: Have three of five who ended up being finalists, and
Speaker 2: I'm the.
Speaker 1: Weakest link of the girls. I also have Danny.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm like, no.
Speaker 2: It was it was it was so I and I
Speaker 2: was team captain because I had been in like I
Speaker 2: was the lowest standing.
Speaker 1: It was all very overwhelming.
Speaker 2: It was a lot to handle, but it still ended
Speaker 2: up being my favorite week because I just loved seeing
Speaker 2: the way everybody worked together. And also I had a
Speaker 2: basically an emotional meltdown right before we went to go
Speaker 2: shoot the group dance, and Mark literally grabbed me by
Speaker 2: the shoulders and was like.
Speaker 1: Danielle, you've got to get it together.
Speaker 2: And he's like, take a deep breath with me, and
Speaker 2: he like breathed, He like basically put me through a
Speaker 2: little meditation, and then I was like, I've got this,
Speaker 2: and I feel like the dance number went off without hitch,
Speaker 2: so I it.
Speaker 3: Was really good. It was a great Glasses It was.
Speaker 1: Great. Did you have a good time in the group
Speaker 1: dance last year?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Those are the best times, you know again, because
Speaker 3: especially for the celebs, his experiences is about also building
Speaker 3: camaraderie with the team beyond you and your partner. Obviously,
Speaker 3: that is the core relationship you build, but those team
Speaker 3: dances the first time in the season that you really
Speaker 3: get to be in the room for a while. You
Speaker 3: see everybody's process. That's the other thing that I don't
Speaker 3: know how Mark does this thing until that group dance,
Speaker 3: if we have it, I don't know how. That's why
Speaker 3: going through the troop I think is really beneficial for
Speaker 3: you know, an upcoming pro because of that, because you
Speaker 3: see everybody's process and it's just so invaluable. Yeah, you're
Speaker 3: going into this, you know, and so team dance is
Speaker 3: a reflection of that. It just shows, like, you know,
Speaker 3: I learned a lot in those rooms from the times
Speaker 3: I shared team dances Derek and Mark and Max and
Speaker 3: you know, the the Lindsay's and Jenna's brilliant Like just
Speaker 3: you just see who's nice with it, you know, and
Speaker 3: how they do it, and who's just like not phased
Speaker 3: by the process, which leads me to the next process,
Speaker 3: I mean conversation my guy a j you know, it's
Speaker 3: like still so cocky, so cocky, but you know what's
Speaker 3: you know, the only thing that's more important in the
Speaker 3: room than humility is decisiveness, you know, and and that
Speaker 3: arrogance creates a decisiveness that is crucial especially for that
Speaker 3: challenge came in Boom boom boom. You know, it's like
Speaker 3: what you what I criticized the week before in this,
Speaker 3: in this you know, the matter of fact way that
Speaker 3: he spoke to Selena, went about choreographing his stories, piece
Speaker 3: of winning the you know, all of these things mm hmm.
Speaker 3: But on the flip side, some of the hardest things
Speaker 3: in those rooms under time drest are making decisions. And
Speaker 3: this is not a creative process. This is not a
Speaker 3: uh I don't want to make it political, but this
Speaker 3: is not socialism. This is authoritarian. This is a regime. Again,
Speaker 3: you want to workshop ideas And I say that only
Speaker 3: because I go the other way. I love camaraderie. I love,
Speaker 3: obviously leadership, but I love leading by inspiring the people
Speaker 3: around me. And so I love the town hall meeting
Speaker 3: of what do you think? But why don't we just
Speaker 3: fly out of the thing? What about you? And I
Speaker 3: think this should be orange? And what about you? And
Speaker 3: you know? And then forty five minutes later like, no,
Speaker 3: we're not getting a zip line, we're not getting that.
Speaker 3: None of this is practical and we just wasted an hour,
Speaker 3: right you know, yeah, where the rooms where? Like For instance,
Speaker 3: Derek is very effective in a team dance environment because
Speaker 3: he came guns blazing with no apologies. Yeah, he came in. Hey,
Speaker 3: if you know him, you just know how you know,
Speaker 3: it's like he has one thought before the ends he
Speaker 3: goes into the next one. Yeah, we could start here,
Speaker 3: and then we can start, and then we could do
Speaker 3: you know, no, no, never mind, and it's like five six,
Speaker 3: seven eight, and we're doing, and so you're you're making
Speaker 3: decisions while doing, and that is always in the in
Speaker 3: every creative field, in any field. I think, start, yeah,
Speaker 3: just starting, you're gonna have a lot of bad ideas.
Speaker 3: Start moving, yeah, you know, And I thought back to Aj,
Speaker 3: I gotta give him props. He led the way and
Speaker 3: he did a great job. He made a great you know,
Speaker 3: he led the way on a great final performance. We'll
Speaker 3: get to that, but overall, great decision making, very decisive
Speaker 3: props he'd took that episode for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, just like in season thirty four where Andy and
Speaker 2: I were the bottom two and then we were made
Speaker 2: we were made team captains for the group dance. Nina
Speaker 2: and Tristan are captains, and Nina drafts in this order
Speaker 2: Alan aj and the Rules, Royce, Adele, and Tristan picks
Speaker 2: Stephanie Selena and Eric. Nina's team is going to do
Speaker 2: the tango and Tristan gets the pasa. Dobley Aj is
Speaker 2: most at home with the tango, so Nina puts him
Speaker 2: in charge of the dance, which is a big step
Speaker 2: for her to give up control. And this obviously does
Speaker 2: seem to be his wheelhouse and he is taking on
Speaker 2: a lot of risk as the brains of the operation
Speaker 2: and Tristan's team Pasa will let the entire team form
Speaker 2: things together, but Selena expresses concern with him just shutting down.
Speaker 1: She thinks he.
Speaker 2: Should step up as the cat. What did you think
Speaker 2: about the way Tristan handled being team captain in this scenario.
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the challenge, Like when you're not under prepared,
Speaker 3: but when you are like in over your head, you
Speaker 3: can shrink that distance with preparedness and then like really
Speaker 3: you hear those stories, you know, catch me if you can.
Speaker 3: It became an attorney like by like you got to
Speaker 3: do extraordinary, You got to put an extraordinary effort into
Speaker 3: something and you could bridge that gap of just not
Speaker 3: being in over over your head. Right, he didn't have that,
Speaker 3: Like I've been in over my head before. I was
Speaker 3: asked to choreograph something like season one, I was like
Speaker 3: a group number I have, how do you? Where do
Speaker 3: I start? But I had I had a chance to prepare, overpare,
Speaker 3: ask advice, blah blah blah, and then by the time
Speaker 3: I got in the room, I already had something to
Speaker 3: work with. He didn't have that. And so this is
Speaker 3: a combination of not having the tools and then not
Speaker 3: having the the ability to over prepare for something that
Speaker 3: you weren't ready for. As far as the other team
Speaker 3: with AJ, you know, again, Nina made an executive decision
Speaker 3: not out of humility, but because she was also in
Speaker 3: over her head and she saw somebody that had confidence
Speaker 3: in what he was doing. And I was like, sure, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: go ahead, and I'll call her out again. I mean, man,
Speaker 3: she's really getting in this episode. I'll call her out
Speaker 3: when they were standing in line, and it's you know,
Speaker 3: and here's the thing. It's like, when you delegate responsibility
Speaker 3: to somebody else, then you better praise that somebody else
Speaker 3: and not take not take credit. And you see when
Speaker 3: they're asked, so, who choreographed this routine? You know, Adele
Speaker 3: right away starts to turn to AJ and she starts
Speaker 3: to say, well, we all contributed and we just kind
Speaker 3: of let agent oh Aj took it over from beginning
Speaker 3: to the end, which is fine. Yeah, I know, this
Speaker 3: is a competition. The hardest thing about Dancing with the
Speaker 3: Stars is having the mental strength and the emotional strength
Speaker 3: to go the distance on their incredible pressure. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: you're see that the challenges are just another challenge. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're all very important.
Speaker 2: But like you said, you better give credit where credit
Speaker 2: is due and being able to let go of your
Speaker 2: ego enough to say, oh, you want me to do
Speaker 2: what I was team captain, what was best for me
Speaker 2: and the team this week is to let this expert
Speaker 2: in tango take over. And that's what we That's what
Speaker 2: I decided to do. And he so he did the choreography.
Speaker 2: They would have they wouldn't They wouldn't have knocked her
Speaker 2: for that, great good idea. You had someone who was ready,
Speaker 2: willing and able to step in and do a better
Speaker 2: job than you were, and you could learn from him
Speaker 2: and that's what you will.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great, that's what you should do.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that was just I mean, I'm being petty now,
Speaker 3: but that was a moment I caught too it's like, no.
Speaker 1: That's not petty. I am right there with you.
Speaker 2: I always love to make sure it gets their credit excellent.
Speaker 1: Yes, rolls Royce, hold that, uh huh.
Speaker 3: She You know. It's interesting. It's like the people that
Speaker 3: are most willing to give credit are the ones that
Speaker 3: typically are the most brilliant. You know. It's like maybe
Speaker 3: brilliant is a big word, but it's like, yeah, of
Speaker 3: course you just demand credit when you you know, you've
Speaker 3: lost sleep over something. Yeah, totally fight for credit. But
Speaker 3: I don't understand people that aren't generous with their credit,
Speaker 3: that aren't enthusiastically looking forward to the opportunity to give
Speaker 3: somebody else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I right there with you.
Speaker 2: Well, after a little bit of practice, it's time for
Speaker 2: the competition. The contestants are all dressed up, and I
Speaker 2: recognize some of those beautiful outfits and we are in
Speaker 2: the ballroom.
Speaker 1: The judges are in place, but Natalie is not there.
Speaker 2: Robert says he will explain her absence a little later.
Speaker 2: First up is Team Pasa Dobla, Tristan, Selena, Stephanie and Eric.
Speaker 2: Shirley asks who took the lead with choreography, and they
Speaker 2: say they worked it out as a team and then
Speaker 2: we see the dance to Lenny Kravitz. Are you going
Speaker 2: to go my way? What did you think of Team Pasable?
Speaker 3: By the way, both teams that are a great job? Yeah,
Speaker 3: they did, both did a great job. I thought, again, man,
Speaker 3: am I really showing my bias here? But like I
Speaker 3: thought they were a bit uh. I didn't agree with
Speaker 3: the criticism of Selena, Okay, I didn't think she was
Speaker 3: the weakest link at all. I know she was great,
Speaker 3: So that was that was weird.
Speaker 1: A little surprising you to see her in the bottom two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but everything else, yeah, I mean it was good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought it was good. Every thought it was
Speaker 1: great too.
Speaker 3: Everybody's good. I know, it's all relative. Good is relative
Speaker 3: to great yep. So it's like good is not good
Speaker 3: enough sometimes.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's the other thing that's hard is being able to
Speaker 3: evaluate is this good enough?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Or am I tripping about perfecting something that's already great?
Speaker 3: Or no it's not good enough. It's good for that,
Speaker 3: but it's not good for this. So I think that
Speaker 3: was the case. I don't know if I'm making sense,
Speaker 3: but it was good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The other one was a bit more polished and just exceptional.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, the judges were not impressed with Team Pasa Dooble.
Speaker 1: They wanted more.
Speaker 2: They liked the beginning, but Britt felt like they were
Speaker 2: out there as individuals and Tristan felt a little lost.
Speaker 2: Mark didn't like Selena's spatial awareness and surely noted weak
Speaker 2: knee walks, which felt like a real batman symbol from
Speaker 2: a boy here. I felt like that was a real
Speaker 2: uh shout out to our boy val.
Speaker 3: This knee walks, she said, walks.
Speaker 2: She thought they had weak knee walks, and I was like,
Speaker 2: we know somebody who us had to do a new walk.
Speaker 3: I know someone I gotta lucky with the epic camera egg.
Speaker 1: Nah, don't you dare. Look at you with your effusive credit.
Speaker 2: Look at you see you're putting it in, putting it
Speaker 2: into play right here, credit to the director. But no,
Speaker 2: those are incredible new walks. But she did praise Eric
Speaker 2: and Stephanie. She said the team would have been better
Speaker 2: off with someone in the lead. Mark mentions it gets
Speaker 2: even harder when you're dealing with an amateur celebrity, which
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Great point.
Speaker 2: Imagine throwing in four celebs who you know you have
Speaker 2: no idea where they're going to be so yeah that
Speaker 2: that could be really hard. And then it's time for
Speaker 2: team tango Nina, Aj, Allen, and Adele. Nina tells Shirley
Speaker 2: that AJ took the lead on this piece, but everyone
Speaker 2: shipped in.
Speaker 1: It's not really what I saw. But okay.
Speaker 2: Mark is very excited to see ballroom from Aj because
Speaker 2: they have seen him do jive the last two weeks
Speaker 2: and they noticed that Nina was able to release control
Speaker 2: than the dance be it is to Ariana Grande's Into You,
Speaker 2: and the unthinkable happens in the first ten seconds. Alan
Speaker 2: slips and falls to the ground. Val What went through
Speaker 2: your head when you saw that?
Speaker 3: Just again nerves? You know, everybody got their own challenge,
Speaker 3: Like Alan has checks off so many boxes. H His
Speaker 3: whole thing is composure. I mean he's got crazy, you know,
Speaker 3: crazy energy, which is so fun to watch. Crazy just
Speaker 3: for lack of a better you know, he's just high energy, yeah,
Speaker 3: high energy. Yeah, controlling that energy. Otherwise you're gonna trip
Speaker 3: on an invisible.
Speaker 1: Step all over, trip over your own feet.
Speaker 3: But you know those things are they're minute in the finally,
Speaker 3: I would have a problem with that, but overall, you know,
Speaker 3: these things happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Alan doesn't let it stop him. They
Speaker 2: finished the dance, they look sharp, and how how did
Speaker 2: you end up feeling after Team Tango's dance and aj
Speaker 2: taking the lead and being strong.
Speaker 3: That's when I had that revelation. It's like this kid, man,
Speaker 3: I can't even be mad at that. You know, like, sure,
Speaker 3: I might not like that approach, but it's not about
Speaker 3: what I like or the approach, it's about the end result. Yep,
Speaker 3: we could apologize after.
Speaker 1: Did you feel like his choreography stood out to you?
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, okay, yeah, he made great decisions because again,
Speaker 3: it's not just about choreography. No, that's not Emmy winning choreography.
Speaker 3: There's nothing really unique or original about that choreography. But sometimes,
Speaker 3: especially on the time the rest, it's not time for
Speaker 3: you to be an artist. It's time for you to
Speaker 3: be a craftsman. And those are two different things. And
Speaker 3: you could see that he's got so many miles under
Speaker 3: his belt that he's a craftsman. He knows exactly what
Speaker 3: to pull out for what challenge. And that's why he
Speaker 3: you know, I love when he said you want to expond,
Speaker 3: you don't want to shrink or whatever he said. I
Speaker 3: was like, I never even said it like that, but yeah,
Speaker 3: very good. So he just yeah, he won the challenge.
Speaker 3: He's the best one of this is the challenge he wanted.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: When the song ends, the team has a nice group
Speaker 2: hug really supporting Alan, who is visibly beating himself up
Speaker 2: over the fall. And now with the judges, Mark acknowledges
Speaker 2: Alan's fall, but praises him for getting up. Everyone falls,
Speaker 2: it's fine. He loved Nina's improvement and said letting AJ
Speaker 2: lead was the right choice. Surely still has some concerns
Speaker 2: about timing. She gave maybe a little bit of credit
Speaker 2: to AJ, and we see some mother and son bickering
Speaker 2: over that comment, which was I loved seeing their dynamic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's also enough like a show within the show.
Speaker 3: I love Mark and Shirley again, that's a show I've
Speaker 3: subscribed to for the last twenty years. Yes, and so
Speaker 3: I'm it's well documented and he'll share some of his
Speaker 3: mother's antics in regards to educating him and coaching him
Speaker 3: on his own accord. But yeah, they're amazing and yeah,
Speaker 3: just I just love her like she always got time,
Speaker 3: Yeah to tell you how it is.
Speaker 2: I loved that it was like an A and a
Speaker 2: B storyline where Nina is also being told your delivery
Speaker 2: sucks sometimes, and Mark turns to his mom and he goes,
Speaker 2: it's just you know, it's the delivery, and it's like it.
Speaker 1: You see it, you see it playing out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what the difference is.
Speaker 1: Surely's earned it. Come on beyond.
Speaker 3: Listen. Nobody earned. Nobody earns the right to be cruel,
Speaker 3: to be somebody else, to be a narcissist, to be
Speaker 3: condescending patron. No one earns that. I've met, you know,
Speaker 3: don't meet you idols. I've met people have admired for
Speaker 3: their work who were absolutely awful human beings. And I
Speaker 3: could separate it too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but.
Speaker 3: You yeah, she's earned that SATs, She's earned that lack
Speaker 3: of reiteration. She's not gonna spoonfeed it to you. She's
Speaker 3: gonna say it, and she's gonna say it respectfully, and
Speaker 3: that's all you're getting and that's more than you deserve.
Speaker 3: Right So, so I love Shirley and she's earned that tone.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: Shirley loves Adele and calls aj the star of the day.
Speaker 2: Britt was very impressed and knows it was out of
Speaker 2: their comfort zone. I loved when Shirley said that Aj
Speaker 2: had been self absorbed for the you know, and and
Speaker 2: full of himself for the first two weeks, and I thought, well,
Speaker 2: we we agreed, you know, we called it out here,
Speaker 2: that's for sure. So then we go to break and
Speaker 2: we returned to the big moment. We have a clear
Speaker 2: winner here. It is no shock that Team Tango has
Speaker 2: won the challenge and is safe from elimination and then
Speaker 2: from Team Passa. Dooble surely announces that Selena and Tristan
Speaker 2: are in Jeopardy?
Speaker 1: Are those the right too to be in Jeopardy? Tristan
Speaker 1: for me, yes.
Speaker 3: Tristan and Selena. No. I don't think Selena should be
Speaker 3: in the bottom two.
Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't. I didn't see that either.
Speaker 3: But here's something to also consider, Like, fans don't have
Speaker 3: a vote.
Speaker 1: I know, it doesn't matter what we think, so it really, you.
Speaker 3: Know, it doesn't matter. It's it's really it comes down
Speaker 3: to that. I just didn't think that she should have
Speaker 3: been in the.
Speaker 1: Bottom I know, I agreed.
Speaker 2: I thought for when they were in the bottom too,
Speaker 2: I was like, well, by Tristan, I was like, all right, Tristan.
Speaker 2: Tristan's gone obviously like there's okay, uh, And then when
Speaker 2: it's time to find out who's going home, we get
Speaker 2: the shocker.
Speaker 1: Everyone is safe surely reveals that Natalie has not been
Speaker 1: medically cleared to return, so she has been eliminated.
Speaker 2: It's very emotional both for the two dancers who are
Speaker 2: being saved after thought thinking they might be going home,
Speaker 2: but also there is a lot of sadness for Natalie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Stephanie has a lot going through her mind back in
Speaker 2: the line, but Natalie does come out to say goodbye
Speaker 2: and support everyone, which is nice to know that she's
Speaker 2: not like laid up in a hospital back somewhere. Well,
Speaker 2: the dancer's ugly cry around Natalie, and we prep for
Speaker 2: week four when Jenna Johnson will.
Speaker 1: Be stopping Bob.
Speaker 3: I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: I am so excited too.
Speaker 2: And her theme is chemistry. Who better to teach about
Speaker 2: chemistry than Jenna Johnson.
Speaker 3: She's a chemistry she sure is.
Speaker 2: She's in the lab, she's cooking up She's a scientist.
Speaker 2: I know you have to get going back to rehearsal.
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us, Thank you all to all
Speaker 2: of our listeners for joining us as well. I can't
Speaker 2: wait for next week where we get to talk all
Speaker 2: about your beautiful wife.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, I'm excited. Her facials alone are just
Speaker 3: so hilarious, and I just love watching her on TV.
Speaker 3: I just love watching her in her element as well.
Speaker 3: I think we share that space so often that you know,
Speaker 3: I'm in my zone, she's in her zone. We're servicing
Speaker 3: our partners, we're you know, we focused on other people,
Speaker 3: and it's fun to see her do her craft and
Speaker 3: I just get to be a fan and watch her
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I'm going to be a fan right
Speaker 1: along with you. Have a great rest of your day, then,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you, b