WEBVTT - Start Ricky Pearsall? | Week 11 Fantasy Football Rankings and Tiers: Studs, Sleepers, and Must-Starts (Ep. 1444)

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, friends, and welcome in to Fantasy Pros. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the Fantasy Football Podcast. I'm Chris Welsh. Today for

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<v Speaker 1>Week eleven Ranks, we have got Pat fitz Morris and

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Pianowski news breaking before we even start the show,

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<v Speaker 1>just blowing up the ranks here. We're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about all of it today. This is running backs. That

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<v Speaker 1>is what we are going to be tackling here, getting

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<v Speaker 1>through all the fun stuff. Pat, are you ready for?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe more breaking news all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be like, hey, but Checko is active, just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>right before the show. We just get those things to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of throw a wrench into it. But that's what

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<v Speaker 1>the teens of ranks are all about, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you making me promises about Isaiah Pichecko because I

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<v Speaker 2>could certainly use him in a couple of leagues where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really scratching the felt at running backs so his

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<v Speaker 2>return cannot come fast enough for a couple of my teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Scott, I don't know about you, but like we

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<v Speaker 1>all were, like, hey, wide receiver, wide receiver, and it

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<v Speaker 1>has been a depthy running back situation. Once we've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>to the teens with by weeks and injuries, people losing here.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wouldn't be super mad if we could just

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<v Speaker 1>get a couple extra nice things more than Adric estime,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, yeah, Audric estimate the poor man's Gus Edwards, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a two down grinder who still doesn't have

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<v Speaker 3>an NFL catch. I'd love ask for estimate to be

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<v Speaker 3>a thing. I have some estivate shares, but I'm just trying.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he's going to be activated for a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people's flexes this week.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like in normal seasons where the running back

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<v Speaker 3>that you shoved in two hands for was somebody you

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<v Speaker 3>know was top twelve, top fifteen running back.

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<v Speaker 4>Right out of the gos.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not the way the shape of the season has

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<v Speaker 3>played out so far.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, we're going to talk about him here in

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<v Speaker 1>just a tiny bit. Let's get into the stuff. But

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the ranks contest, as we always do before

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<v Speaker 1>we kick off the show. This week, Christopher Jimino gimmeo

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<v Speaker 1>apologies and pronunciation of names was number one in the ranks.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Spratt and Jason William were the top three in

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<v Speaker 1>the ranks. But not to move past them, because they

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<v Speaker 1>deserve that praise. Our boy Mick was four. Pat Mick

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<v Speaker 1>is on a generational run right now of like he

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<v Speaker 1>was one.

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<v Speaker 4>He was four.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's also not move past you, Pat, you were eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is like your I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>fourth or fifth, top twenty or twenty five ranking this

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<v Speaker 1>so far this season, and so as far as the

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<v Speaker 1>weekly ranked contest goes, Mick is up there, and Pat

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of keep doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>My friend mix on a heater, for sure. And I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't feel like I had a great week. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I got a lot of things right a quarterback, and

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<v Speaker 2>then just felt sort of so so about the other position.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe the quarterback rankings carried me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I might have been maybe the world's worst

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback ranker this week. There might not have been a

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<v Speaker 1>human being worse at quarterback than me, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>I was, you know, amazing at wide receiver and tight

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<v Speaker 1>end or something like that. But we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>we don't need to talk about me. We don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about my rank on where I was, right, Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't need to talk about where we were at

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to.

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<v Speaker 3>Mention that I was fifth in the week ten rankings.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry if you're only grading me among the other

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<v Speaker 3>Yahoo people. I did beat one of my colleagues, but.

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<v Speaker 4>For them beat me.

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<v Speaker 3>I was ten at quarterback, and then it went gradually downhill.

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<v Speaker 3>The expert accuracy has shifted from something I couldn't wait

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<v Speaker 3>to look at to something I almost dread looking at

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<v Speaker 3>now because I'm not having a great accuracy accuracy season.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll tell you what I've always done better the

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<v Speaker 3>weeks that we hashed this up with these programs.

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<v Speaker 4>So I know that.

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<v Speaker 3>Week eleven will be one of my strongest weeks because

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<v Speaker 3>basically I'm copying off the Welsh and the Fits pages.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's get to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, definitely the Fits. Let's let's go that with the Fits.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys want to check out all the rankings, go

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<v Speaker 1>to fantasypros dot com slash rankings. You can check out

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<v Speaker 1>all the positional tiers. Whether what we're talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>second isn't covering what you want, They're going to change

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<v Speaker 1>all the way up until kickoff, So go and check

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<v Speaker 1>that out. You can do it on my playbook app,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can, just like I said, go to fantasypros

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<v Speaker 1>dot com slash rankings to see what it looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's jump into it ourselves. It's running back time. Going

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<v Speaker 1>to the big board, the top twelve. I'm gonna little

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<v Speaker 1>give you a little spoiler alert. We're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>really talk about the top twelve we're just going to

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<v Speaker 1>give it to you and then we're going to move

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<v Speaker 1>into the next range, because what are we breaking down?

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<v Speaker 1>I will say it is very nice to see Christian

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<v Speaker 1>McCaffrey back at the tippy top again. Yes, number one

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<v Speaker 1>in the ranks against Seattle. Debro was pushing back on

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<v Speaker 1>me a little bit, fits that I was being a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a niner homer thinking that Christian McCaffrey

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<v Speaker 1>could get to when he touches nineteen in the week one,

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<v Speaker 1>because as I've said, Kyle Shanahan cannot help himself and

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't, and you'll probably get even more so. Christian

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<v Speaker 1>McCaffrey's number one, Saquan at two, Joe Mixon, Bijon Derrick Henry.

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<v Speaker 1>That rounds out your top five, Davon ah Chan, Kyrin Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>Jamior gives Alba Kamara, Breeshaw, Jonathan Taylor, Ken Walker. That's

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<v Speaker 1>your top twelve. Just gonna throw it real quick, since

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<v Speaker 1>we aren't gonna like sit and break down. You know

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<v Speaker 1>any specific players or I don't have a debate, pat

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<v Speaker 1>is there anything in the top twelve that just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of jumps out to you A too high, a too low?

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<v Speaker 1>Someone that you're just maybe a little disenchanted about, or

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<v Speaker 1>someone that you think belongs you know, like way higher.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you know, well, it's an interesting week at running

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<v Speaker 2>Back where I feel like they're about nineteen really really

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<v Speaker 2>strong plays and then maybe about eleven or twelve okay,

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<v Speaker 2>flex type plays, and then the bottom just drops out

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<v Speaker 2>after that. So I think with the top ten or

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<v Speaker 2>twelve guys, they're going to be The ordering is open

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<v Speaker 2>to debate in some spots, like I've seen some people

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<v Speaker 2>have Alvin Kamara as high as two and as low

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<v Speaker 2>as like nine, but like, that's perfectly reasonable when there

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<v Speaker 2>are a bunch of good options. It's really kind of

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<v Speaker 2>down towards that, you know, from twenty to thirty or so,

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<v Speaker 2>where it gets pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott, let me ask you this real quick. Then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a liar. I'm like, hey, we're not going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about these Let's talk a bunch. The news that came

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<v Speaker 1>out right before the show, by the way, that I

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<v Speaker 1>just teased is that Jane Steiken was like, Hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>know all those things that I just said, reverse it,

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<v Speaker 1>scratch it. We're going to do the exact opposite, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to start Anthony richards again at quarterbacks. So

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony richards in his back he will be a theme

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the rank episodes we do here. I'm just curious

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Taylor comes in at eleven. Do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>changes your process With Jonathan Taylor? Obviously, like maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>ball doesn't move as well, maybe it does with Richardson.

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<v Speaker 1>He is going to take some of that running game,

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<v Speaker 1>goal line stuff potential. I mean there's theoretical takeaways. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think Anthony Richardson coming in could bump him out

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<v Speaker 1>of the top twelve or move him higher?

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<v Speaker 4>To you?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if we had this conversation a month ago,

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<v Speaker 3>I would have been like, oh, okay, I'm worried about

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<v Speaker 3>the buoyancy of the offense. They're gonna move the ball

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<v Speaker 3>better with Flacco. I don't know what they do with Richardson.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I need to reappraise where I'm at with Taylor.

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<v Speaker 3>But Flacco played so poorly the last two games. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>part of that was what the Vikings did on that

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday night game. But I dare Richardson, and this is

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<v Speaker 3>a dere I might regret saying I dare Richardson to

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<v Speaker 3>be worse than Flacco has been the.

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<v Speaker 4>Last couple of weeks where.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like Stiken had to make this movee. It

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of disappointing that he had to lie to

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<v Speaker 3>us and mislead us. But that's what coaches do, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what coach speak is. And keep in mind, the Colts

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<v Speaker 3>have played one of the most difficult schedules in the

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<v Speaker 3>league to this point. They have an easy schedule going

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<v Speaker 3>forward or an easier schedule, so it's the right time

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<v Speaker 3>to onboard Richardson. I had Taylor ranked tenth before the

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<v Speaker 3>news came down, and I thought, you know again, it

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<v Speaker 3>happens right before we get on air, get to make adjustments,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, you know what, I'm just gonna leave

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<v Speaker 3>Jonathan Taylor tenth. Maybe it's because I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>argue that might be a Wisconsin Badger bias in the room,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think Taylor's going to be just fine. And

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<v Speaker 3>this Jets team, man, did they lay down like lambs

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<v Speaker 3>last week against Carolina. So I think Jonathan Taylor is

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<v Speaker 3>going to hit one hundred yards again no matter what

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<v Speaker 3>Anthony Richardson does.

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<v Speaker 1>Fits just a quick hitter. Are you going to adjust

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Taylor at all with Richardson in I had.

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<v Speaker 2>The same thought Scott did. I've got him at ten. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought about moving him up a spot or two

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<v Speaker 2>and decided to just leave him at ten. Although I

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<v Speaker 2>do think generally the presence of Anthony Richardson is good

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<v Speaker 2>for Taylor, but yeah, I don't know right now. Running

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<v Speaker 2>back ten feels good for him. Really great game for Taylor,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, last week he looked terrific. Didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>do anything though as a pass Caatrin didn't score a touchdown,

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<v Speaker 2>so the reality of his performance was better than the

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<v Speaker 2>fantasy output.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go take a look at the RB

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<v Speaker 1>two's on the big board. Josh Jacobs comes in at thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Kareem Hunt, Chase Brown, David Montgomery, James Cook. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>DeAndre Swift at eighteen, Aaron Jones, JK. Dobbins, Ramandre Stevenson,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Chubb, Tony Pollard, and Najie Harris. Let's go over

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<v Speaker 1>to DeAndre Swift. We've got a little bit of a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>DeAndre Swift has an ECR of eighteen. Fits you are

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<v Speaker 1>lower than the consensus at twenty, and Scott you are

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<v Speaker 1>a tiny bit higher. So let's take both sides of that. Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start with you. This offense is and has been abysmal,

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<v Speaker 1>but they've obviously made an offensive coordinator change, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>we could see, you know, and I guess it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what will be the change? I kind of would think

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<v Speaker 1>they would want Caleb Williams to make shorter decisions, shorter passes,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe obviously established the run a tiny bit more. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that's the play here with DeAndre Swift? You

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<v Speaker 1>being a tiny bit higher than consensus that we see

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<v Speaker 1>him get going.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the key for me with.

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<v Speaker 3>DeAndre Swift has been the projectable volume that he gets right.

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<v Speaker 3>He gets double digit touches every game, even in this

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<v Speaker 3>horrible run they've been in since the bye.

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<v Speaker 4>Week sixteen sixteen and eighteen carries.

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<v Speaker 3>He did have a streak where he had touchdowns in

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<v Speaker 3>four straight games, So Brocheon Johnson get sprinkled in now

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<v Speaker 3>and then the goal line. But usually when they score

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<v Speaker 3>a rushing touchdown, it's DeAndre Swift. Generally, when you step

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<v Speaker 3>into a situation where Caleb's underwater right now and he's

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<v Speaker 3>not processing well and he takes nine sacks last week,

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<v Speaker 3>in sacks are usually more of a quarterback stat than

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<v Speaker 3>an offensive line stat. They need to scale things back, simplify,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's just going to mean I think a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more DeAndre Swift you can run on the Packers. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not thrilled to line up with this offense, I get it,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think Swift is actually a pretty easy player

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<v Speaker 3>to start. The more difficult questions for this offense come

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<v Speaker 3>with what do you do if you have their receivers?

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<v Speaker 3>What if you do if you have Cole Comet? What

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<v Speaker 3>if you do if you've been starting Caleb Williams the

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<v Speaker 3>super flex? Those are the hard questions. I actually think

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<v Speaker 3>Swift is a pretty solid, reliable RB two. You may

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<v Speaker 3>not want to watch the game, but he's gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>twenty touches in his back pocket when the game's over.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not saying that you don't maybe agree with that sentiment,

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<v Speaker 1>but you do him at twenty. You've got him a

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<v Speaker 1>spots lower than the consensus. What's your read on DeAndre Swift?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know the little bit of the unknown of

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen with this offense?

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<v Speaker 2>This week I mentioned their nineteen running backs you feel

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good about and note that I have DeAndre Swift

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<v Speaker 2>at number twenty just my blanket fade of the Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>Bears continues. They have not scored a touchdown in their

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<v Speaker 2>last twenty three possessions going back to Week eight against

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<v Speaker 2>the Commanders. In the two games since coming out of

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<v Speaker 2>the by Swift has averaged three point four yards per

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<v Speaker 2>carry and has not hit sixty rushing yards in either

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<v Speaker 2>of those two games. The Bears starting offensive tackles Braxton

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<v Speaker 2>Jones and Darnell Wright were both out last week, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they lost guard Tevin Jenkins to an injury in

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<v Speaker 2>the game against the Patriots last week. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>the Packers have generally been considered a good matchup for

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<v Speaker 2>running backs. That might not be as much the case

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<v Speaker 2>this year under a new defensive coordinator, Jeff Hafley. They

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<v Speaker 2>rank fourteenth and dvoa again thrown and have given up

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<v Speaker 2>the thirteenth fewest fantasy points to running backs. So they're

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<v Speaker 2>at least a middle of the pack defense rather than

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<v Speaker 2>an easy matchup that we want to target. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it might not be a good run defense, but not

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<v Speaker 2>a pushover anymore. So this is just I'm fading a

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<v Speaker 2>bad offense here.

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<v Speaker 1>Another interesting one in here is Aaron Jones Aaron Jones

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<v Speaker 1>comes in at ECR nineteen. Scott you've got him at eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>but Fits you've got him at fifteen. I guess there's

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<v Speaker 1>like a little ambiguity about like his injury, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think they said he's going to relatively be okay. He

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<v Speaker 1>returned at the end of the game, so I think

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<v Speaker 1>that can get him going again. You kind of worry

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes that maybe that's something that's going to flare back up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a three star rating as far as the matchup goes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's given a B overall grade on the Fantasy pros

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<v Speaker 1>ranking site here. Fits you are higher, though, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna jump back to you because you are towing the

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<v Speaker 1>line of like it's not quite an RB one, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's still in that general range. Talk about the matchup,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm guessing just no general worry about maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>the injury tapering down some of his touches because Ty

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<v Speaker 1>Chandler seems to be like out by the way. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like cam akers at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Chandler's number three. I think the camera shot of

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Jones getting carted off the field last week was

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<v Speaker 2>probably concerning to a lot of people, but it was interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>They asked Aaron Jones about that. He said the reason

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<v Speaker 2>he got carted off was because the X ray machine

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<v Speaker 2>at the stadium in Jacksonville was like way at the

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<v Speaker 2>far end and they were just doing that for time sake,

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<v Speaker 2>so he did return of the game. He's apparently okay

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<v Speaker 2>the matchup. Titans have a solid run defense, but they

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<v Speaker 2>have given up twelve touchdowns to running backs in nine

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<v Speaker 2>games this season, and Jones has been pretty consistent this

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<v Speaker 2>year in half point PPR scoring. He's posted double digit

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<v Speaker 2>point totals in six of his last seven games, so

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<v Speaker 2>I feel pretty good about him as a solid RB two.

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<v Speaker 1>Scot, same thing. At eighteen, you are like one spot higher,

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<v Speaker 1>So you guys are both kind of in the above consensus.

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<v Speaker 1>See Jones as like the week continues to go on.

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<v Speaker 1>He could taper up just a tiny bit, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is Tennessee. So Scott, what's your take on Aaron Jones?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, very solid player. We've seen all these

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<v Speaker 3>veteran running backs change teams and most of them have

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<v Speaker 3>been good fantasy plays this year, but the Vikings are

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<v Speaker 3>struggling the punch in touchdowns. Only two rushing touchdowns for

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<v Speaker 3>Jones Tennessee is eighth and rushing DV Away. There's no

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<v Speaker 3>pushover on defense. We forget that a lot because their

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<v Speaker 3>offense tends to lose every game. It's not the defense's

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<v Speaker 3>fault more often than not. But I also wonder if

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<v Speaker 3>Jones is not one hundred plays, but the game gets

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<v Speaker 3>in control, maybe they back off him. And maybe it's

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<v Speaker 3>the cam Makers show in the second half where it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's closer to US sixty forty or fifty to fifty

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<v Speaker 3>this week where they don't have to lean on Jones.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish I felt better. I love Kevin O'Connell, but

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<v Speaker 3>Sam Darnold, you know, he's ahead of every league average metric,

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<v Speaker 3>all the downfield stuff, but he's just he's taking too

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<v Speaker 3>many sacks and he's throwing too many interceptions, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>keeping this offense. I mean, Jacksonville wanted to get blown

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<v Speaker 3>out last week in Minnesota, couldn't finish the job. The

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day, I think we're gonna see the

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron Jones special is gonna be like seventy to ninety

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<v Speaker 3>yards rushing. He's gonna have about twenty five yards receiving.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's not gonna have a touchdown. That's why I

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<v Speaker 4>ranked him where I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me throw one more at you guys, and almost

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<v Speaker 1>like Aaron Jones could maybe go against him here. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say this is like, I know he's ranked

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<v Speaker 1>as a top two back, but I think sometimes there's

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<v Speaker 1>questions about these do you believe a guy like Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Chubb is a player that you've got to get in lineups?

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<v Speaker 4>This week?

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<v Speaker 1>He is only ranked twenty second on this list, but

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<v Speaker 1>of the top twenty five running backs on Fantasy pros

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<v Speaker 1>rb ranks, he has the best matchup rating against the Saints.

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<v Speaker 1>We know he's been getting some volume fits. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think Chubb is a guy that a you can trust

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<v Speaker 1>putting in the lineup and be that maybe should be

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<v Speaker 1>pushed up a little bit more, you know, as the

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<v Speaker 1>team is able to kind of, you know, get the

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<v Speaker 1>ball deep with Winston. He's getting some volume and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a really great running matchup. And specifically I looked

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<v Speaker 1>at like the disparity between like Chase Brown and Nick Chubb,

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<v Speaker 1>like should it be that high? So I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>threw a lot of things that you it's really about,

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<v Speaker 1>is Nick Chubb a guy that people should be Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Trusting getting in lineups this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, comparing him to Chase Brown, I think we feel

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<v Speaker 2>much better about the Bengals offense than the Browns offense.

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<v Speaker 2>And Chase Brown is explosive, like he has the chance

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<v Speaker 2>of breaking off a long touchdown run or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like a sixty yard gain on a short little dump

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<v Speaker 2>off pass or something, whereas Nick Chubb does not really

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<v Speaker 2>offer that. He does have that nice floor with volume.

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<v Speaker 2>We do feel a little bit better about the Cleveland

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<v Speaker 2>offense than we did when Deshaun Watson was playing quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>and the Saints rnded a really good matchup for running backs.

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<v Speaker 2>Their run defense has been terrible all year. But I

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<v Speaker 2>do think that's sort of the production profile for Nick

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<v Speaker 2>Chubb is pretty accurate based on where he is ranked,

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<v Speaker 2>like high floor, low ceiling probably, so back end RB

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<v Speaker 2>two feels about right to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott. Do you think the matchup itself is something where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like there's a little bit more trust than usual,

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean we also haven't seen him get like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, absolute bel cow thoughts on Chubb.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm just concerned. I don't see the explosion.

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<v Speaker 3>This is an injury where you you would think he

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be close to one hundred percent until maybe next season.

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<v Speaker 3>Two yards to carry against the Bengals to three point

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<v Speaker 3>three against the Ravens, two point six against the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 4>Not an easy runout on the schedule.

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<v Speaker 3>But and also, Jameis Winston doesn't like to throw to

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<v Speaker 3>his back. He's he's not gonna look to dump off.

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<v Speaker 3>He's gonna look to throw a ball downfield or maybe

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<v Speaker 3>even throw an interception that may or may not be dropped.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the Jameis Winston experience.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't want to It's when we see a

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<v Speaker 3>matchup the like the Saints, we get excited because they've

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<v Speaker 3>just been a turnstile for opposing running backs. But I

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<v Speaker 3>don't see Nick Chubb anywhere close to one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking he's going to have his best game of

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<v Speaker 3>the season, but it's gonna be muted with like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Chubb average four yards to carry today, wasn't that nice?

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<v Speaker 3>So I think the ranking is in the right place.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he's an automatic start by any means.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, RBS twenty five through thirty six, the RB three

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<v Speaker 1>slash Flex range at twenty five We've got Travis etn,

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<v Speaker 1>followed by Brian Robinson. I think the injury thing is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of, you know, making his situation weird. Rico Dawdle,

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<v Speaker 1>Austin Eckler, Odrich estimate at twenty nine. Alexander Madison at

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<v Speaker 1>thirty thirty one through thirty six Jalen Warren, Raheem Moster, Tyler, Algi,

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<v Speaker 1>Tank bigsby, Javonte Williams and Tajy Spears. Okay, we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about him a little bit before. Odric Estime probably the

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<v Speaker 1>easily the number one waiver RB for this week, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the top claims. I would imagine people would have

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<v Speaker 1>been targeting more the wide receivers, but Odric Estime is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be up there. Scott a little well, not

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<v Speaker 1>either one of you are lower. You're actually a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit higher than consensus A twenty eight, but fits you

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<v Speaker 1>seem to be the pro Estime guy. You've almost pushed

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<v Speaker 1>him into the RB two range. So Fitz, let's start

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<v Speaker 1>with you RB twenty six for Estime this week after

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<v Speaker 1>he got some really solid volume. He is going up

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<v Speaker 1>against the Atlanta Falcons this week, which is a low

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<v Speaker 1>grade and a pretty low rating according to Fantasy Pro's

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<v Speaker 1>RB ranks.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I do believe that Audric Estime is going

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<v Speaker 2>to continue to be the primary early down back for

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<v Speaker 2>the Broncos. That like, it's kind of his gig. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's still a role for Javonte Williams because

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<v Speaker 2>we know that Sean Payton likes to use the running

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<v Speaker 2>backs in the passing game a lot, although maybe we

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen that quite as much, maybe because bo Nix

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<v Speaker 2>is more of a scrambler, doesn't need to dump off

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<v Speaker 2>as much as Drew Brees did.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Take away an eighty eight yard rushing day that Javonte

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<v Speaker 2>Williams had against a very putrid Saints run defense that

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<v Speaker 2>we were just talking about, and Chavante is averaging three

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<v Speaker 2>points three seven yards per carry on the season and

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<v Speaker 2>his only top fifty rushing yards in three of the

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<v Speaker 2>ten games he's played this season. So Estima out snapped

0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Javante twenty six to sixteen last week, out carried him

0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:40.280
<v Speaker 2>fourteen to one. Julia McLoughlin was down to seven snaps

0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:44.280
<v Speaker 2>last week. So Estima is a bowl and I can

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<v Speaker 2>understand why they wanted to go to him, like at

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame last year over thirteen hundred rushing yards eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>touchdown runs in his final college season. But as Scott said,

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<v Speaker 2>Estime is not a pass catcher at all. He's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to help in that area obvious passing downs. He's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be on the So that's why I

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<v Speaker 2>think we're we're topping out at high end RB three

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<v Speaker 2>rankings for him, Like there's just not any pass catching offside.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got to do all his business on the ground

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<v Speaker 2>and that could be tough against Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Scott, you seemed a little pessimistic about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel pessimistic about it. Just it's like, Okay, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the best offense that now and has not been

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<v Speaker 1>a great running offense, and now there's just three of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like Jeli mcgloughlin and Javonte can be the

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<v Speaker 1>receivers and then they're gonna sprinkle in the other guys. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>was this the peak of carries that we've saw from estimate?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is you kind of did it

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<v Speaker 1>with the Gus Edwards thing. I was about to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is like he's got to score

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown to have felt good about putting him in there,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's still probably a single digit scoring week that

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<v Speaker 1>you end up getting out of him. But I'm projecting

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<v Speaker 1>onto you. Are you as pessimistic as I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 1>laying out as rodrig estime?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I got him a running back twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 3>so he's playable. He's not a forced play, and just

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<v Speaker 3>because you won him in free agency and doesn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>mean you have to start them. You may have a

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<v Speaker 3>situation where your backfield.

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<v Speaker 4>Is deep enough that you can avoid that.

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<v Speaker 3>A key here is, well the usage going forward, will

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<v Speaker 3>it be a two man backfield or a three man backfield?

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<v Speaker 3>Because remember bo Nix is always going to take some

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<v Speaker 3>of the rushing equity off the table to begin with.

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<v Speaker 3>And so if we could reduce A big thing in

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL these days for fantasy is trying to reduce

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<v Speaker 3>a backfield from it used to be. We hated committees

0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:26.520
<v Speaker 3>and we wanted Belkow's but you know, belcos are so rare.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's all about can we get a backfield down

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<v Speaker 3>to two backs? Like you know, Detroit uses two backs

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<v Speaker 3>and we can play both of them every week, it's

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<v Speaker 3>no big deal. There's a lot of teams that do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Ideally Miami would be one of those teams. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's what I'm looking for with estimate is that

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<v Speaker 3>also there's a difference between being a zero in the

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<v Speaker 3>passing game and just being a limited pass catcher. If

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<v Speaker 3>they could even upgrade him to like Derrick Henry, like

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<v Speaker 3>receiving work where he catches one or two passes a game,

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<v Speaker 3>that would be a big difference, especially in those PPR formats,

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<v Speaker 3>and just absolutely just not even being on the field

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<v Speaker 3>for those options. That may come down to how comfortable

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<v Speaker 3>they feel with Estimate with pass blocking. Also, when people

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<v Speaker 3>are talking about him this week and they talk about

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:05.280
<v Speaker 3>how slow he is, remember that at his pro day

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 3>he ran a lot faster than he did as his

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<v Speaker 3>combined time. I don't think playing speed is a problem

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<v Speaker 3>with Estimate. I think he's a bonifid potential starting running back. Ultimately.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing I.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel best about here is I think the double digit

0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:19.280
<v Speaker 3>touches are in his back pocket. And even though Atlanta's

0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:22.200
<v Speaker 3>run defense has been decent, this is a game Denver

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<v Speaker 3>can win. I think Denver's a good team. I think

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<v Speaker 3>this will be a competitive game. I'm not worried at

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<v Speaker 3>all about Denver being blown out, so estimately should be

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<v Speaker 3>relevant for all four quarters. The running back twenty eight

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<v Speaker 3>slot feels about right. He's a good flex play this week.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to go crazy on him. Just again,

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<v Speaker 3>don't let his fab chops because he was in a

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<v Speaker 3>really weak FAB week I thought so. He probably went

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<v Speaker 3>for multiple hundred dollars in some thousand dollars leagues where

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:47.200
<v Speaker 3>people are running out of time to do anything in

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 3>their season, they had to just throw in with two

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<v Speaker 3>hands on estimate. But I think the running back twenty

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<v Speaker 3>eight tag feels about right.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I've got a running back rank debate that

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<v Speaker 1>we can play. These guys are actually right next to

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<v Speaker 1>each other. Jalen Warren comes in at thirty on this

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<v Speaker 1>week and we are going to battle him up against

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<v Speaker 1>Raheem Mostert, who's at thirty two. This is a really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting one because Warren, you know, finally kind of got

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<v Speaker 1>going this past week. He's got a theoretical rough matchup

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<v Speaker 1>with Baltimore, except if they're going to stop the run,

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<v Speaker 1>that actually would bode a little bit more well for

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Warren, which I think is pushing up his rank.

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<v Speaker 1>The surprise maybe is that Warren is above Mostart and

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<v Speaker 1>how Mostart has gotten involved in the offense as of

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<v Speaker 1>recent them wanting to run the ball. And it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great matchup against the Raiders. So I'm curious that this

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<v Speaker 1>takes Scott. Let's start with you. I know, I personally

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<v Speaker 1>know that you have Jalen Warren at thirty two, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're one spot lower. How do you think Jalen Warren

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<v Speaker 1>versus most plays out and what side are you picking?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm a little bit higher on Warren because the

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<v Speaker 3>Steelers are the most run heavy in neutral gamescript team

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<v Speaker 3>in the league. They is don't care if it's successful

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<v Speaker 3>or not. They're going to keep running the ball. They

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 3>want to throw the ball limited amount of times. They'll

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<v Speaker 3>take their play action shots with Carl Pickens, with George Pickens,

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<v Speaker 3>which has been working out right. And I think I

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<v Speaker 3>have called you Welsh earlier, by the way, former Providence

0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:04.479
<v Speaker 3>basketball coach, So you're in good company if I get

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<v Speaker 3>your first name wrong. But I feel more confident in

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<v Speaker 3>Pittsburgh's what they want to do. They're one of these

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:12.720
<v Speaker 3>teams they don't they don't care what you stop. They say,

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<v Speaker 3>this is who we are, this is what we do

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<v Speaker 3>every week. Argue if that's bet if that's a good

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<v Speaker 3>thing or a bad thing. But it's certainly their identity

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<v Speaker 3>and they have won with it. The thing with Moster

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<v Speaker 3>too is he's had a problem putting the ball on

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<v Speaker 3>the ground lately, and we saw Jalen Wright getting some

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 3>late carries in that Miami win over the Rams on Monday,

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if the Moster thing could be running its course.

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 3>I know he's probably their pass catcher in some packages.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not as good or as dynamic as a Chan.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody knows that, But I think Raheem Moster is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be Fantasy irrelevant maybe in three or four more weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if Miami's gonna be relevant either. Even

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<v Speaker 3>though they won Monday, they didn't really look all that great,

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<v Speaker 3>and they really need to fix their run, their pass

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<v Speaker 3>blocking and trust Toua to throw downfield. But even though

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<v Speaker 3>these guys are close for me, I think in every

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<v Speaker 3>start sick question where Moster is offered to me, I

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<v Speaker 3>think I'm going to probably go with the other guy,

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<v Speaker 3>and certainly I would go with Jalen warn here.

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<v Speaker 1>So Pat, what do you think here? And you're higher

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<v Speaker 1>than Warren on ECR here And again, like the game

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:10.879
<v Speaker 1>script or the matchup might really speak well to what

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:12.639
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Warren is going to be able to do in general.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, Raheem Mostert has gotten involved. They're just

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 1>the mess though with the Dolphins Moster versus Warren for you.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, Scott. I think it's okay to call

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<v Speaker 2>our host Tim Welsh, just don't call him Joe Walsh,

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 2>because I've heard that much like the Big Lebowski hates

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<v Speaker 2>the Eagles.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think you actually did say though Welsh, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, but like t dot Welsh, like Tim, like

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<v Speaker 1>that would be you know, legal name of the would

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<v Speaker 1>definitely translate to Tim Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta I gotta push back up the Eagles. Here's

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:43.199
<v Speaker 3>the thing with the Eagles. I do not like them collectively.

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 3>I actually really like them individually. I think Joe Walsh

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 3>is a really cool guy. I mean, gun Fry, who

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 3>was in Jerry McGuire is the Arizona Football GM. Smugglers

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 3>Blues is a great song. The heat design is going

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 3>to be played for the rest of our lives. I

0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 3>don't know if that's a great song with Smugglers Bloosh

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:02.120
<v Speaker 3>or is Henley's solo career is excellent. I just don't

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.879
<v Speaker 3>want to ever hear Peaceful Easy Feeling again or the

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 3>Best of My Love or Tequila Sunrise. Those songs make

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 3>me want to gouge out my eyes and go van

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:12.399
<v Speaker 3>go on my ears. So I'm Eagles as a band.

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm not there the Eagles individually.

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm in.

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm very young right now. I feel very young right

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 1>now with this conversation. I'm reaching to that audience. Guys,

0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>all right, but we were going pat you were Raheem

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<v Speaker 1>Moster versus Warren.

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Warren by mile and right now. So the RB twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five ranking is based on my uncertainty about the status

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:36.199
<v Speaker 2>of naj Harris, who look like tweaked his ankle pretty severely.

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 2>It almost looked like a mechanism for a high ankle

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 2>sprain last week. But we also know Nase is a

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 2>warrior who does not miss many, if any games, so

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 2>we should probably expect that he is going to play.

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 2>But Jalen Warren is the one B t Nase's one

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 2>A in this offense, whereas Raheem Moster it might be

0:28:56.240 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 2>the two A. He basically split back carries behind Devon

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Ahchan on Monday night against the Rams. The snap counts

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 2>in that game Devon h Chan thirty seven, Jalen Wright nine,

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Raheem Moster at eight, and Raheem Moster didn't have a

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 2>single carry in that game.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Mike McDaniels said that was a product of the game

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 2>plan a very specific game plan for the Rams, but

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean they like Jalen Wright as

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 2>a regular part of this offense. Now, so, Warren Scott

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 2>mentioned how run heavy the Steelers are. They're running on

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:31.959
<v Speaker 2>fifty three point three percent of their offensive plays this week.

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Since coming back from his knee injury, warren snap shares

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 2>have been They've ranged from thirty nine percent to fifty

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 2>one percent his touch counts in those three games fourteen, eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>and sixteen. And yes, Warren does face a Baltimore defense.

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 2>It's really tough against the run, but the Ravens have

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 2>given it up to running backs in the passing game

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 2>and they're probably not going to do any better against

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 2>pass catching running backs of Kyle Hamilton, their stud safety

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 2>is out with an ankle injury.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, last one, we're going to do a price

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<v Speaker 1>check on the running backs because we have got both

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 1>of these guys coming in as like flex rbs. It's

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 1>the Jacksonville Jaguar situation with Travis Eten and Tank Bigsby.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the interesting thing. You guys are on opposite

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>ends of which running back now Etan from an ECR perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>is at the tippy top, he's at twenty five, Bigsby's

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 1>down here at twenty four. Scott, you are Eatan and

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>then bigsby By, you know, a pretty big mile. But

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 1>then Fits you've got I guess I read that wrong.

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess, Fitz, you've got Etan higher than biggs b. Yeah,

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 1>so that is all correct.

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<v Speaker 4>So et In on.

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<v Speaker 1>Both sides is higher for you, guys, but there's a

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>closer gap fit. So just real quick on your take

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>fits for Eten versus Bigsby in this jaguar situation, which,

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>by the way, you should just not want to start

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>any of them, but if you are forced to do it,

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 1>it looks like Eten has taken back that top jagged roll.

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Welsh with the correct answer bench both if you

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 2>can if you don't have that luxury. I guess the

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 2>reason I'm not ready to put so much daylight between

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Etn and Tank Bigsby. I know Biggsby has been dealing

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 2>with an ankle injury, and maybe that should be more

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 2>of a factor in my rankings, But it's my lack

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 2>of enthusiasm for ETN, I guess, and just the fact

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 2>that earlier in the season to me, Bigsby clearly looked

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:29.239
<v Speaker 2>like the better runner, just like no contest. I know,

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Biggsby has no utility in the passing game whatsoever, and

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Etn is a pretty good pass catcher, so maybe that

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 2>should factor it into But I just can't unsee what

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 2>I saw earlier in the year with Biggsby out rushing

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Etn pretty drastically, I.

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Thought, And Scott, that's the difference here, because it was

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 1>confusing looking at them. Is that gap is pretty close

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 1>for Pat, It's not really close for you. There's almost

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>a full positional tier of rbs between them, and Bigsby

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>doesn't play third downs. He doesn't catch the bottle of

0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 1>the backfield enough et And does you know if that

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 1>is the case, that's great. If there's anything else what

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 1>creates that huge gap for you to SIMMI put trust

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 1>back into et And I suppose yeah.

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean, not that anybody's gon to miss Trev Lawrence,

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 3>but Mac Jones is playing again this week. I just

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 3>feel like everything around Bigsby is collapsing. The team's collapsing,

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 3>the quarterback play has collapsed. He's not a pass catcher.

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 3>The game script there, I mean, what are they like

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 3>five hundred point underdogs to the Lions. We saw how

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 3>Detroit stuff Joe Mixon into a pretzel last week. Evenough mix.

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 3>It has been running really well this year. So I

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 3>don't see how you could like the game script for Bigsby.

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't see how you can like him in the

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 3>passing game when they don't use him. I don't think

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 3>this offense scores more than ten points. I think he's

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 3>actually in some shell at least might even be a drop.

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>I kind of think so the same. Maybe you've got

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 1>some tank Bigsby, Travis Eten or bigger questions. Well, guess

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:49.520
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0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:52.040
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<v Speaker 1>live stream questions. Gentlemen, are you ready to check out

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the big board? Some yeses? Yes, Oh, heads are shaken. Yes,

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 1>we're bobbling it. Let's bobble head over top twelve wide receivers.

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>The big Board starts with Jamar Chase at one. We've

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 1>got aj Brown, a Monroe, Saint Brown, Justin Jefferson, Nico Collins.

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 1>That's our top five Cooper Cup George Pickens, Pooka Nakua,

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Tyreek Hill, Deebo, Terry McLaurin, Garrett Wilson, deep breath, everybody,

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:33.959
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about Tyreek Hill. This is gonna be an

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>interesting one because I have been an annoyingly pro Tyreek

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Hill person for the year, just thinking he's just too

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>talented and like they're gonna figure it out, and then

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 1>TWOA is gonna get back. Guys, I look at him

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 1>at nine and I just I don't think I can

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:51.600
<v Speaker 1>do it. I think this is why, by the way,

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 1>he's going to go off. I told Fitz this before

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>we started this up. I said, don't worry he's gonna

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.440
<v Speaker 1>go off this week because I think I'm this is

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna be my out week on tyres Kill. The wrist

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 1>injury worries me. The first read percentage on a Chan

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I think it was the highest of all offensive players,

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:09.400
<v Speaker 1>and then you go to Waddle, who won that first

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 1>half and then just just disappeared. I just don't think

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>the volume is there. There's something weird and lacking with

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:19.359
<v Speaker 1>this offense. So I personally think I am out on

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:22.799
<v Speaker 1>Tyreek Kill. But both of you find gentlemen, you guys

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:25.840
<v Speaker 1>are both higher than the consensus again, nine and a

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 1>half PPR on the Fantasy pros ranks. Scott you got

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>him at seven, and Fitch you got him at four. Babies,

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:34.319
<v Speaker 1>so Fits, let's kick it to you. I'm out. So

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get like number one overall rank this coming

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>week because you're gonna have Tyreek Kai four you are in.

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Is there no concern about how the offense is running

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and or that.

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Rist There are a number of concerns. Yeah, Tyreek says

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 2>he is playing with a torn ligament in his wrist,

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.959
<v Speaker 2>and we've got this weird epidemic of risk injuries among

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:58.800
<v Speaker 2>wide receivers this year Buffalo with Amari Cooper and Kean Coleman,

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 2>DeVante Adams dealing with a risk thing now and Tyreek.

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Tyreek looked okay though to me on Monday like he

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 2>still looks fast. It doesn't seem like he's having any

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 2>trouble catching the ball. In the three games since Tua

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:14.399
<v Speaker 2>has come back from his concussion, Tyreek's numbers have been

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:19.399
<v Speaker 2>unexciting but decent. Six for seventy two no touchdowns, four

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:21.919
<v Speaker 2>for eighty no touchdowns. On Monday night, we got three

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:24.919
<v Speaker 2>for sixteen yards but he did have a touchdown Andy

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:29.840
<v Speaker 2>he ran a couple of reverses for eleven yards. Maybe

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 2>the risk injury like ratchets up the risk for Tyreek.

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Possible he lands on it wrong and doesn't finish the game.

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 2>But man, he just he still looks fast and dangerous

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 2>to me. I know, Tua hasn't been taking as many

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 2>deep shots as he usually does. Maybe that's part of

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:49.399
<v Speaker 2>the Tua protection plan to keep him from taking big

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:52.120
<v Speaker 2>hits get rid of the ball faster. But I am

0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 2>just going to keep stubbornly ranking Tyreek like the superstar

0:35:56.400 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 2>he has been in recent years. And I feel like

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:01.400
<v Speaker 2>the big game is coming.

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I totally feel that, and I just,

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 1>like I said, just been stupidly continuously saying that. But

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:09.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, one of the things that seemed a little

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>bit more prevalent in this game is when they did

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 1>stretch the ball. It was kind of a forty nine

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:15.400
<v Speaker 1>er way. They want to stretch the ball in the

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:17.840
<v Speaker 1>middle of the field, and that's the Jalen Wattle spot.

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 1>That's either short John U or deeper Jalen Wattle. Those

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:24.439
<v Speaker 1>end a rounds. It was Malik Washington this week. It's

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 1>like all the things that you could like. They don't

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 1>seem to want to stretch the ball deep on the sidelines.

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.799
<v Speaker 1>They're not doing the screen passes to Tyreek Kill a bunch.

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 1>We're not seeing end a rounds. It just seems like

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 1>the usage is going down and the offensive play calling

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 1>to me, has really been abysmal with the Dolphins. Scott,

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 1>what say you though you're you are higher than consensus,

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 1>You're a little bit lower than where Pat is. But

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Pat's got him at top five. So where are you

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 1>at on Tyreek Kill?

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:48.359
<v Speaker 4>Then?

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in my fresh Gunglarry Ross Leeds, I have Tyreek

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 3>at wide receiver nine. I unfortunately, if you roster Tyreek,

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:56.880
<v Speaker 3>you don't have a choice.

0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:57.600
<v Speaker 4>You have to play him.

0:36:57.640 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, since Tua came back half point PPR,

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:03.919
<v Speaker 3>Tyrek Kill's been wide receiver forty one, wide receiver thirty,

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:06.839
<v Speaker 3>wide receiver twenty three. He's only been inside the top

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 3>twenty in the first game of the year when he

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:11.360
<v Speaker 3>went crazy against Jacksonville game that it seems like it

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 3>was a million years ago, one hundred and thirty yards

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:16.360
<v Speaker 3>in a touchdown. They don't they can't run the offense

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:18.880
<v Speaker 3>they want because Tyreek is not healthy. Tua is somebody

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 3>they're trying to overprotect. It's a game they should probably

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 3>control against Vegas. So I think two is probably throwing

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 3>twenty five passes or fewer. I guarantee you this. This

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 3>sounds like an ultimate cop out. But I'm not even

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 3>to consider Tyreek Hill and DFS. I wouldn't trade for

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 3>him anything close to a full market value. And you know,

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 3>I have at wide receiver and I'm not thrilled about that.

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 3>It speaks to there's a lot of teams on by

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:43.360
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of receivers, as Pat mentioned, who are

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 3>hurt this year and hurt right now and again. Then

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 3>there's this offenses that have gone into a ditch because

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 3>quarterbacks are you know, they're not playing the right guy

0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 3>or whatever it is, you know, So it's it's a

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 3>it's a really ugly time in the wide receiver in

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 3>passing game streets.

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 4>But I am not.

0:37:57.480 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 3>I actually think I'm going to bet under on a

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:01.360
<v Speaker 3>Tyreek prop this week, and that's something I'd normally be

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 3>petrified to do.

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, am I advocating to bench him?

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Probably not, But I do think it's now open. I

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.280
<v Speaker 1>will not have him as a top twelve wide receiver

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 1>this week, I might betting under So I am offering

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:19.359
<v Speaker 1>myself to all of you listening as tribute that I

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:22.759
<v Speaker 1>will take on all of the negativity of Tyreek Hill,

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:25.880
<v Speaker 1>which means he is bound to blow up. So I

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 1>offer myself as tribute for all of you Tyreek owners,

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 1>so you guys can have your big week. But it's

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 1>none like I think I'm done, especially with a lot

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 1>of what we saw this past week. And we're not

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:38.840
<v Speaker 1>one week out of Tua. It's not like Tua just

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 1>came back to it has been back for a couple

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.720
<v Speaker 1>of weeks. This offense doesn't look right. The play calling

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>is weird, and you know, I don't know if TWA

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>throws twenty times in that game, and by how the

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:50.319
<v Speaker 1>usage has been, Tyre's probably only getting four or five.

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:52.879
<v Speaker 1>So I'm out on him being a wide receiver one.

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 1>But there are some big questions, and you know, at

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:57.279
<v Speaker 1>the end of the show, we always tell you some

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 1>other ways you can start putting Tyreek Hill up against

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:02.440
<v Speaker 1>other players for you guys, as far as like where

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:05.480
<v Speaker 1>did the debates start? But that still is an ECR

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:08.720
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<v Speaker 1>talk about Josh Downs. He's the new edition. As we

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned in a previous show, right before we started up

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<v Speaker 1>our recordings, we found the news. Found out the news

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<v Speaker 1>that Anthony Richardson is now back as quarterback for the

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Indianapolis Colts. Maybe it doesn't put as big of a

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 1>question into his effect on Jonathan Taylor. Maybe him as

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>a starting quarterback really still doesn't put into question because

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't break the top twelve. But boy does it

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 1>bring a big question to Josh Downs. Because Josh Downs,

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:06.799
<v Speaker 1>whenever Anthony Richardson has been out there has just been

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:09.680
<v Speaker 1>down into the thirties. Joe Flacco loves downs even though

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:14.279
<v Speaker 1>he's kind of been struggling. Pittman is injured. What do

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<v Speaker 1>we do with Josh Downs, Scott, Let's start with you.

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Richardson is in Josh Downs. Pre Richardson was a

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:24.399
<v Speaker 1>top twenty wide receiver. What does he look like now

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:25.440
<v Speaker 1>with Anthony Richardson?

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just played this game where Josh downs or

0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 3>with a bunch of guys and it was the other guy.

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:30.839
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 3>Give me Tank Dell, give me JSN, give me Juwan Jennings,

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:37.400
<v Speaker 3>who looks really good in that ex role, the Brandon

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 3>Ayuk role for the Niners, I don't trust and look,

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:42.400
<v Speaker 3>I get we have to accept that the Jets defense

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 3>is not what we were promised, right man. They just

0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 3>get embarrassed at Arizona where every other play was a

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 3>first down. I'm shocked at how what a no show

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 3>that was by their defense. And their offense isn't covering

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:54.400
<v Speaker 3>themselves in Chlora either, But I need to see it

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 3>from Richardson now. The one thing you can hold hang

0:41:57.160 --> 0:41:59.759
<v Speaker 3>your hat on with Richardson is that if you have

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:02.359
<v Speaker 3>to any of the receivers, whether it's Downs or some

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:04.760
<v Speaker 3>of the lesser guys, you know, Alec Pierce or Mitchell

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 3>or whatever it sounds like Pittman probably won't play. Richardson

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:10.760
<v Speaker 3>can make your day with one play, right, He's gonna

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:13.400
<v Speaker 3>chuck a few deep. We know he's probably gonna complete

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 3>fifty percent or fewer of his passes, but there'll be

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 3>a couple of highlight plays.

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:18.439
<v Speaker 4>There always are. So you just hope.

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 3>If you're a Downs manager, you hope it's a fifty

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 3>yard touchdown the downs. That's not the way I want

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:24.399
<v Speaker 3>to make my living is you know, I hopefully I'll

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 3>hit a grand slam in the ninth inning, you know,

0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:29.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean I want to have a more steady mileage.

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 3>I want to have it a more steady OVP, you

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 3>know whatever it is. I want to have a more

0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 3>steady consistency.

0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the metaphor is I'm searching here for,

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 3>but that's what Anthony Richardson does to mean, it's Saint

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Stichen does to me. So I have moved Josh downs

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 3>as we speak, down to my wide receiver thirty.

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the big plays, unfortunately with the Colts end up

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:48.399
<v Speaker 1>being Alec Pierce. You know, he's the guy that gets

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:50.879
<v Speaker 1>the sixty yarder Josh Downs has lived off of really

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 1>great volume, and you just don't assume that's there those

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:55.759
<v Speaker 1>names that Scott was throwing out, like Tank Tank Dell

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:58.840
<v Speaker 1>is thirty on Fantasy prosis ark consensus wide receiver. So

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:02.279
<v Speaker 1>pat Josh Down no longer a top twenty. Where do

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:04.399
<v Speaker 1>you think his resting spot is going to be as

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:06.839
<v Speaker 1>far as overall ranks or slash like where you want

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 1>to put him?

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Right around where Scott has him wide receiver thirty and

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:12.800
<v Speaker 2>I had him inside the top twenty with Joe Flacco.

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:17.840
<v Speaker 2>But I would add to Scott's comment about Anthony Richardson

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 2>being able to make your day with like one or

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:25.800
<v Speaker 2>two plays, if your name is Alec Pierce, that's the caveat.

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 2>I would add to that. I dropped Pierce two spots

0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 2>in the rankings with the quarterback change, and I dropped

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Downs like eleven spots, So like, I think it hurts

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Josh Downs far more than it hurts Alec Pierce. I mean,

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Alec Pearce is a desperation flex play at best anyway,

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 2>But like, Downs needs that volume, and Joe Flacco was

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 2>peppering him with targets, and now I don't think we

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 2>can count on that. I think passing volume is going

0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 2>to be always going to be less with Anthony Richardson

0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 2>that it would be with Joe Flacco. So just not

0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 2>that much interest in downs. And this is with Michael

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:05.799
<v Speaker 2>Pittman out like it when Michael Pittman's comes back, and

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 2>if he were to come back this week, I would

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:10.800
<v Speaker 2>probably have downs closer to wide receiver forty than wide

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:15.840
<v Speaker 2>receiver thirty. So yeah, this just squelches all excitement for

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Josh downs.

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 1>And the only thing you could like hold your hat

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 1>on would be like that. You know, in this time

0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 1>where he's been benched, they've maybe been trying to reform

0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:26.239
<v Speaker 1>how they want him to attack the offense, and kind

0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:28.360
<v Speaker 1>of like what we mentioned when we talk about Caleb Williams,

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:30.800
<v Speaker 1>it's like with the new offensive coordinator in there. What

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 1>would be great is if they adjust to him to

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 1>making shorter, quicker decisions instead of running around and just

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 1>go to your first or second read, try to get

0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 1>to the first read, make that choice. The same thing

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:42.440
<v Speaker 1>would be with Richardson if they readjusted that. But you

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:44.759
<v Speaker 1>don't have any trust that they would. It's their disaster

0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:47.239
<v Speaker 1>right now. And I think a funny thing about this

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 1>is Scott. You mentioned Juwan Jennings. I think Juwan Jennings

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:54.360
<v Speaker 1>unanimously across the board. If we're if you know, someone

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:55.919
<v Speaker 1>came into a live chat and said, Hey, who would

0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>you start this week? Jennings or Downs? I think we

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:00.719
<v Speaker 1>would all slam Jennings that this point. And I think

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:02.719
<v Speaker 1>there are a tier difference. I think those guys have

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 1>now moved in to I think maybe Downs was the

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:07.160
<v Speaker 1>top of a tier and Jennings was at the bottom

0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 1>of it. Downs is now kicked out of that tier,

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:12.279
<v Speaker 1>and Jennings is a no brain start, especially moving into

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 1>that XT role over Josh Downs. Trying to get into

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 1>what Jawan Jennings are a little bit a couple other Well,

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:20.840
<v Speaker 1>actually we had Jawan Jennings. We're going to talk about

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:24.040
<v Speaker 1>in just a tiny bit in the next range. Zay

0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Flowers ECR sixteen. This is one that we just have

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:31.240
<v Speaker 1>a big difference on Pinowski. You've got him at sixteen

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 1>as well, Fitz, you've got him down at twenty two.

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Going up against the Pittsburgh Steelers, interesting because you know,

0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Terry McLaurin did really light them up. The matchups can

0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:42.880
<v Speaker 1>be a little bit difficult sometimes on the Steelers, but

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Terry McLaurin really lit them up. What's got you putting

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Zay Flowers almost out of wide receiver two range pat.

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not really the matchup or the possibility of

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 2>a Joey Porter junior shadow. It's more about my concerns

0:45:56.280 --> 0:45:59.919
<v Speaker 2>with day flowers target volume going forward. And he had

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:03.160
<v Speaker 2>been getting pretty ample target volume in the early part

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:05.640
<v Speaker 2>of the season. So he's gone over one hundred yards

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:09.880
<v Speaker 2>in four of his last six games. And Jay Flower

0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:12.840
<v Speaker 2>saw nine or more targets in four of the Ravens

0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 2>first six games this season. That's pretty good, but the

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 2>target volume over Baltimore's last four games has fallen off.

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:24.040
<v Speaker 2>His target counts in those four games one, twelve, six,

0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:27.640
<v Speaker 2>and six, and the twelve came in the game before

0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:30.840
<v Speaker 2>the Deontay Johnson trade. Now, Deontay hasn't played much of

0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:34.440
<v Speaker 2>a role. He's had twenty two snaps played in Baltimore's

0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:37.719
<v Speaker 2>first two games, but John Harbaugh said they are going

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:42.279
<v Speaker 2>to ramp up his usage going forward, so he's going

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:45.440
<v Speaker 2>to be used more. And oh, by the way, Deontay

0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:49.439
<v Speaker 2>Johnson revenge game against the Steelers this week, and Mark

0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Andrews seems like he's being back to being Mark Andrews

0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:56.799
<v Speaker 2>season high seven targets against the Bengals last week. So

0:46:57.160 --> 0:46:59.120
<v Speaker 2>I have nothing bad to say about Jay Flowers. I

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:00.960
<v Speaker 2>just think there could be kind of a target squeeze

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:02.239
<v Speaker 2>on him and the rest of the way.

0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Scott, it's not to say that you're like

0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 1>super optimistic or anything. You have him at ECR. Is

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:10.320
<v Speaker 1>there anything you want to add into maybe some of

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the pessimism that's kind of thrown out there as far

0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:14.319
<v Speaker 1>as what that offense is looking like and where Pat

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:15.840
<v Speaker 1>has is a Flowers ranked?

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, two things I'll say pro Flowers. One, as Pat said,

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:22.160
<v Speaker 3>the four one hundred yard games out of six, and

0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 3>he would have had a big game, I believe against

0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:26.279
<v Speaker 3>Tampa had he not gotten hurt early in that game.

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 4>And I think they just backed off Flowers.

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:30.359
<v Speaker 3>So I throw that game completely out to me, it's

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:32.719
<v Speaker 3>like four hundred yard games in five. Now I realize

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:35.760
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't get in on the pinball game. The Bengals

0:47:35.760 --> 0:47:39.400
<v Speaker 3>and Ravens played a glorious fantasy game last Thursday, and

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:43.360
<v Speaker 3>Flowers had very little involvement. But I think the Ravens

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:45.360
<v Speaker 3>took Deontay Johnson because the price was so cheap. I

0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:47.960
<v Speaker 3>don't think he necessarily filled a glaring need for them.

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:51.520
<v Speaker 3>They already had decent receiver depth. They thought, okay, they're

0:47:51.520 --> 0:47:53.839
<v Speaker 3>going to give Deanty Johnson away. We'll take him, we'll

0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 3>find something for him to do. But I don't think

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 3>he's a threat at all to the routes that Flowers

0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:01.640
<v Speaker 3>wins on me. He's just the guy moves like a slinky.

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:05.880
<v Speaker 3>He's his lateral agility and ability to change direction on

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:07.839
<v Speaker 3>a dime. It's just, I mean, my ankles break when

0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:10.440
<v Speaker 3>I watch the guy on film or just on regular TV.

0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:13.880
<v Speaker 3>So you have to accept that Flowers is never going

0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:15.879
<v Speaker 3>to be a huge target guy. He doesn't have ten

0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:17.480
<v Speaker 3>targets in any game this year. This is how the

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:20.040
<v Speaker 3>Ravens operate. But he's gonna make two or three chunk

0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:22.279
<v Speaker 3>plays in this game. I know the Steelers, you fear

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:24.759
<v Speaker 3>their defense quote unquote, but I think the end of

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:26.719
<v Speaker 3>the day, Flowers is gonna have like, you know, four

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 3>for eighty five, and I'd give him maybe a twenty

0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 3>to thirty percent chance at a touchdown. He's somebody I'm

0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:34.359
<v Speaker 3>gonna confidently play. And Deontay Johnson another guy. I think

0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:35.239
<v Speaker 3>you could actually.

0:48:35.040 --> 0:48:38.719
<v Speaker 1>Drop I think you could easily drop him a move

0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:40.719
<v Speaker 1>that even without a corresponding ad by the way, you

0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 1>just drop him just you know, revenge game against the Steelers.

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 4>You can have revenge drop against Deontay Johnson. I'm tory.

0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:48.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you just spit. I like spy drops. I'm down

0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 1>for like just a spy drop, Like, oh, what did

0:48:50.239 --> 0:48:52.399
<v Speaker 1>you mean? Nothing? Just I just wanted to drop him,

0:48:52.400 --> 0:48:54.239
<v Speaker 1>just to make a point. That's all that I was doing.

0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Cedric Tillman was a popular pick up a couple of

0:48:56.880 --> 0:48:59.080
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, then goes on a buy everybody you know,

0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:01.759
<v Speaker 1>getting that excitement build up. So where does that lead

0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:05.560
<v Speaker 1>us to this week? ECR twenty three fits at twenty four. Scott,

0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 1>you are the high man at twenty two. So actually

0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:10.400
<v Speaker 1>let's kick it to you on your optimism or what

0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:12.200
<v Speaker 1>do you think we're getting out of Cedric Tillman because

0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:15.880
<v Speaker 1>the wide receiver two territory is a big statement. Also

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:18.040
<v Speaker 1>pointing out here's some players that you know. He is

0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:22.440
<v Speaker 1>currently being ranked above Devonte Smith, Jackson Smith and Jigba

0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Tank Dell Khalil Shakira. I mean this is a pretty

0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:27.680
<v Speaker 1>big group. He is like firmly sitting in this wide

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:30.040
<v Speaker 1>receiver two range. So let's get your take on starting

0:49:30.080 --> 0:49:30.640
<v Speaker 1>him this week.

0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:34.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Cedric Tillman more like Cedric the entertainer. The last

0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:37.960
<v Speaker 3>three weeks, he's played half point PPR. He's wide receiver twelve,

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:41.480
<v Speaker 3>wide receiver three, and wide receiver fourteen. And the two games,

0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:43.799
<v Speaker 3>the twelve and the three were with Jameis Winston. Of course,

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:47.200
<v Speaker 3>Jameis Winston's revenge game against the Saints. If he has

0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:48.799
<v Speaker 3>any I don't know if he has any bad feelings there.

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Jameis Winston is just fun, right. He's gonna throw some

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:53.399
<v Speaker 3>into his guys. He's gonna throw some to the other guys.

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 3>He's going to look to throw downfield. And the target

0:49:56.080 --> 0:49:58.520
<v Speaker 3>shares have been there too, twelve, nine and eleven targets.

0:49:58.520 --> 0:50:01.439
<v Speaker 3>So Tilman's the number one receiver. Cooper obviously was traded

0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:04.800
<v Speaker 3>about a month ago. So against the New Orleans defense,

0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:06.680
<v Speaker 3>maybe you think that it's easier to run on them,

0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:08.000
<v Speaker 3>but you know they traded a lot of more.

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:09.440
<v Speaker 4>They're allowing chunk plays.

0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:13.520
<v Speaker 3>They didn't offer much resistance last week to a bad opponent,

0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:15.920
<v Speaker 3>So I think Cedric Tillman. Now the schedule is going

0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:19.560
<v Speaker 3>to get nasty forward Pittsburgh Denver, another Pittsburgh game, Kansas City,

0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:22.880
<v Speaker 3>though Baltimore is lying in Week eighteen. I guess it

0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:25.720
<v Speaker 3>doesn't work for fantasy purposes, But I don't love Tilman's

0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:28.880
<v Speaker 3>schedule going forward. But I'm expecting what he's done a

0:50:28.960 --> 0:50:31.520
<v Speaker 3>very consistent return the last three weeks. I think he's

0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:33.120
<v Speaker 3>gonna be right in line with that. Something like seven

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:34.920
<v Speaker 3>for ninety and a touchdown sounds about right.

0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm positive is they're just going to probably be

0:50:37.320 --> 0:50:39.520
<v Speaker 1>playing from behind every single game. One of the weird

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:42.080
<v Speaker 1>thing like Winston's made a bunch of those wide receivers

0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:44.600
<v Speaker 1>just like Target Hawks. Now there's like three guys at

0:50:44.600 --> 0:50:46.759
<v Speaker 1>Gillian Moore is starting to get targets and Jerry Judy

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:49.840
<v Speaker 1>is getting back into it. Tilman is the most talented player,

0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:52.160
<v Speaker 1>and he stacked a couple of weeks in their fits.

0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:55.280
<v Speaker 1>So do you have any added stuff for Cedric Tillman

0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:55.800
<v Speaker 1>for this week?

0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:58.080
<v Speaker 2>The only thing I'll add like Scott was pretty much

0:50:58.080 --> 0:51:00.839
<v Speaker 2>spot on about the assessment. I like like this that

0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:04.239
<v Speaker 2>this is really his last good matchup before things get

0:51:04.280 --> 0:51:08.479
<v Speaker 2>a little scary with the matchups. The only cold water

0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 2>I have to throw on Cedric Tillman. Is that in

0:51:10.680 --> 0:51:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Jameis Winston's first two starts for the Browns, he has

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:17.120
<v Speaker 2>thrown forty one and forty six passes like he has

0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:19.480
<v Speaker 2>been throwing it all over the yard. And it's not

0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:21.440
<v Speaker 2>just Tillman who's getting.

0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:23.760
<v Speaker 4>A lot of targets. It's the target.

0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Counts for Browns wide receivers over Jameis Winston's two starts

0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:31.800
<v Speaker 2>twenty one, Elijah Moore twenty, Cedric Tillman nineteen, Jerry Judy

0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:33.399
<v Speaker 2>and by the way, they have a really good tight

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:38.480
<v Speaker 2>end with David Nijoku. So I worry that he does

0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:40.880
<v Speaker 2>not have nine or ten targets in his back pocket.

0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:43.319
<v Speaker 2>I worry that there's a possibility that if the game

0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:45.479
<v Speaker 2>script goes hey wired, it could be five or six.

0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:48.960
<v Speaker 2>So that's really my only concern that maybe the target

0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 2>volume doesn't look as good as it has in these

0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:53.439
<v Speaker 2>last two games. For Cedric Tillman.

0:51:53.960 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Wide receiver three times, it's wide receiver twenty five through

0:51:56.560 --> 0:51:59.239
<v Speaker 1>thirty six. DeVante Smith comes in at twenty five, Juwan

0:51:59.320 --> 0:52:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Jennings at twelve six. They got Khalil Shakir, Lad mcconki, Jackson,

0:52:03.680 --> 0:52:06.319
<v Speaker 1>Smith and Jigba and Tank Dell. That is our into

0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:09.760
<v Speaker 1>the thirty range. Jacoby Myers, Jamison Williams, Brian Thomas Junior,

0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Waddle, Amari Cooper and Jerry Judy at thirty six

0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:16.000
<v Speaker 1>we talked a little bit, or I talked a little

0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:19.000
<v Speaker 1>bit about Juwan Jennings. Let's kick it over, Fitz. You

0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:23.000
<v Speaker 1>got Juwan Jennings at twenty six. Scott, you're a little

0:52:23.000 --> 0:52:26.120
<v Speaker 1>bit lower on him. I will probably be the high guy.

0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Love seeing him in that X spot and pretty absolutely

0:52:29.560 --> 0:52:32.200
<v Speaker 1>loves him. Fits. What do you got on Juwan Jennings.

0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:35.840
<v Speaker 1>We affirmed that Jennings over Downs is kind of a

0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:39.000
<v Speaker 1>no brainer. What about Jennings versus Tillman? How close? I

0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:42.839
<v Speaker 1>think those are? Like a legit question someone might have, like, hey,

0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I need a wide receiver, three, I have both Tilman

0:52:44.920 --> 0:52:48.040
<v Speaker 1>and Juwan Jennings. Are you going to side on Tillman

0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:51.640
<v Speaker 1>by a large, large margin or Juwan Jennings is he

0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:52.279
<v Speaker 1>in play here?

0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I've still got Tilman two spots ahead of Jennings, but

0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:59.320
<v Speaker 2>we are all realizing what a good player Juwan Jennings

0:52:59.440 --> 0:53:01.440
<v Speaker 2>is this season, and now the forty nine ers are

0:53:01.440 --> 0:53:04.840
<v Speaker 2>basically asking him to play the role that Brandon Ayuk

0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:08.480
<v Speaker 2>had played as the primary downfield receiver in that offense,

0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:11.799
<v Speaker 2>and he's delivering the same sort of efficiency that we

0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:15.560
<v Speaker 2>saw Brandon Ayuk deliver last year. Sixty eight point one

0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:18.920
<v Speaker 2>percent catch rate for Juwan Jennings so far this season

0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:22.839
<v Speaker 2>ten point four yards per target really good. And now

0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:26.360
<v Speaker 2>he's playing a lot ninety one percent snapchare last week

0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:30.239
<v Speaker 2>eleven targets, seven catches, ninety three yards. I think he's

0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:32.719
<v Speaker 2>pretty close to Hi. Must start against the Seahawks.

0:53:34.480 --> 0:53:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Scott. You've got him at wide receiver thirty, so it's

0:53:37.120 --> 0:53:40.840
<v Speaker 1>like a fringey wide receiver three here. What is keeping

0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:43.000
<v Speaker 1>him from being a wide receiver to this week?

0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:47.960
<v Speaker 3>Just the messiness of my early week ranks, because when

0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:50.279
<v Speaker 3>I was doing my Josh Downs adjustment, I realized I

0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:52.759
<v Speaker 3>had Juwan Jennings way too low.

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:55.000
<v Speaker 4>He had that blow up game earlier this year.

0:53:56.480 --> 0:53:58.040
<v Speaker 3>What one hundred and seventy five yards I think the

0:53:58.040 --> 0:54:00.759
<v Speaker 3>three touchdowns. And Bill James, the base Wall stat guy,

0:54:01.320 --> 0:54:03.920
<v Speaker 3>talked about something called signature significance. So like if a

0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:08.640
<v Speaker 3>baseball pitcher through a fifteen strikeout game, it's probably impossible

0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:11.120
<v Speaker 3>for that player not to be a special pitcher. Even

0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:14.240
<v Speaker 3>though generally we want large samples, but when a small

0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:17.319
<v Speaker 3>sample has such an amplitude, it usually means that there

0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:18.960
<v Speaker 3>could be something behind it. We don't need to get

0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:21.520
<v Speaker 3>the big sample. And I felt that that game that

0:54:21.920 --> 0:54:25.160
<v Speaker 3>won seventy five and three game for Jennings meant signature signfficance.

0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:26.920
<v Speaker 3>I think he had like ninety one yards the next game.

0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:29.759
<v Speaker 3>Then he got hurt, but he looked terrific last week.

0:54:29.800 --> 0:54:32.600
<v Speaker 3>To me, he can make plays after the catch, He

0:54:32.640 --> 0:54:34.759
<v Speaker 3>can threaten all straight out of the field. The fact

0:54:34.760 --> 0:54:37.840
<v Speaker 3>that they've thrown him into the ayu role immediately speaks

0:54:37.880 --> 0:54:39.040
<v Speaker 3>to how comfortable they are with it.

0:54:39.120 --> 0:54:40.640
<v Speaker 4>And he's been there for a while. They paid him too.

0:54:40.680 --> 0:54:41.719
<v Speaker 3>I know a lot of it was because of his

0:54:41.800 --> 0:54:45.440
<v Speaker 3>blocking and everything, but he's been around the league. You know,

0:54:45.480 --> 0:54:47.080
<v Speaker 3>he's been with the team, He's been in the meetings

0:54:47.120 --> 0:54:49.360
<v Speaker 3>and all that stuff, and he party trusts them, Shanahan

0:54:49.400 --> 0:54:52.000
<v Speaker 3>trusts him. I think he's a locked in wide receiver too.

0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:54.239
<v Speaker 3>I just didn't have him ranked highly enough. I do

0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:57.120
<v Speaker 3>slightly prefer Tillman because I think Tillman's maybe more important

0:54:57.120 --> 0:55:01.040
<v Speaker 3>to his offense than Jennings is to his but you know,

0:55:00.640 --> 0:55:01.880
<v Speaker 3>I earlier we were.

0:55:01.640 --> 0:55:02.800
<v Speaker 4>Talking about all these teams.

0:55:02.840 --> 0:55:06.080
<v Speaker 3>You know, quarterbacks are hurt, quarterbacks are benched, your teams

0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:09.160
<v Speaker 3>are shipwrecked. We don't trust this team, that team. We

0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:10.759
<v Speaker 3>trust the San Francisco forty nine ers.

0:55:10.760 --> 0:55:11.000
<v Speaker 4>Man.

0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:14.080
<v Speaker 3>And so when you can set your lineup and you're

0:55:14.120 --> 0:55:17.360
<v Speaker 3>investing in an ex receiver and every snap basically in

0:55:17.400 --> 0:55:20.960
<v Speaker 3>every pass route receiver basically tied to Kyle Shanahan and

0:55:21.000 --> 0:55:23.240
<v Speaker 3>tied to Brock Purty, sure tied to the San Francisco

0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:25.799
<v Speaker 3>forty nine Ers, I'm in. I think Jenning says eight

0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:28.520
<v Speaker 3>to ten targets in his foreseeable future every week.

0:55:28.880 --> 0:55:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Scott, Oh, I'm sorry. I was just gonna ask if

0:55:31.640 --> 0:55:38.799
<v Speaker 2>Markzvel does Scantling meets the threshold for signature significance MBS man.

0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:41.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, I joke that every receiver has some humor

0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:42.640
<v Speaker 4>bust in his game.

0:55:42.640 --> 0:55:44.600
<v Speaker 3>But the thing with MVS is he he will give

0:55:44.640 --> 0:55:46.960
<v Speaker 3>you thirteen bus and you just don't know. He's the

0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:49.239
<v Speaker 3>human Rulett wheel, right. The number is going to come

0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:51.480
<v Speaker 3>up at some point, but you might be there all night,

0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:54.719
<v Speaker 3>like like in Lost in America where Albert Brooks's wife

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:57.160
<v Speaker 3>is betting the same roulette number every every time, you know,

0:55:57.239 --> 0:55:59.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean that, that's what MVS is. His odds of

0:55:59.440 --> 0:56:01.600
<v Speaker 3>hitting are probably the same as hitting one roulette number,

0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:04.560
<v Speaker 3>so he's hit it. I wasn't proud I picked him up.

0:56:04.560 --> 0:56:06.960
<v Speaker 3>In a couple of leagues. I didn't make make proactive bids.

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:09.040
<v Speaker 3>I actually didn't really want to win them. And now

0:56:09.040 --> 0:56:11.040
<v Speaker 3>I have MVS. I really don't want to start them.

0:56:11.800 --> 0:56:14.520
<v Speaker 3>But the Saints are just they have you played two

0:56:14.560 --> 0:56:16.719
<v Speaker 3>awesome games, and since then all they've done other than

0:56:16.800 --> 0:56:20.240
<v Speaker 3>Kamara is break our heart. Nobody can time Taysom Hill properly,

0:56:20.360 --> 0:56:23.759
<v Speaker 3>and Chris Olave can't stay healthy, which is awful. There

0:56:23.840 --> 0:56:27.040
<v Speaker 3>was a breakout season for the other receiver.

0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:27.520
<v Speaker 4>Who got hurt.

0:56:28.360 --> 0:56:30.160
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe that two when O start feels like

0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:31.400
<v Speaker 3>it was nineteen seventy seven.

0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:34.239
<v Speaker 1>It's very shameful talking about MVS. We're not going to

0:56:34.280 --> 0:56:36.239
<v Speaker 1>do it. We're actually what I wanted to ask.

0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Well receiver fifty three for me, I'll just give it

0:56:38.040 --> 0:56:39.680
<v Speaker 3>out to you, Pat how Yeah.

0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:40.799
<v Speaker 1>Don't start him. Don't start.

0:56:40.880 --> 0:56:42.120
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm a little lower than that.

0:56:42.320 --> 0:56:45.080
<v Speaker 4>Okay, no, maybe right around there, even lower than that.

0:56:45.400 --> 0:56:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I might even be a little bit higher. But what

0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:50.719
<v Speaker 1>I want to ask is you only got mvs if

0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:53.319
<v Speaker 1>a Ricky Piersoll was not available or b you didn't

0:56:53.360 --> 0:56:56.160
<v Speaker 1>bid enough, and Ricky Piarsol was at the tippy top

0:56:56.200 --> 0:56:58.360
<v Speaker 1>of the waivers. And since we were talking about Juwan Jennings,

0:56:58.400 --> 0:57:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I want to throw this out on where you guys

0:57:00.960 --> 0:57:04.080
<v Speaker 1>are as far as startability. ECR forty puts him as

0:57:04.120 --> 0:57:07.600
<v Speaker 1>like a mid tier flex this week. Pat, Let's go

0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:10.600
<v Speaker 1>to you real quick, Juwan Jennings, you're in on? Are

0:57:10.640 --> 0:57:13.160
<v Speaker 1>you in on Piarsol as a flex starter? What's your

0:57:13.239 --> 0:57:13.840
<v Speaker 1>rank range?

0:57:13.920 --> 0:57:16.640
<v Speaker 2>I've got him wide receiver forty five. I'd rather not

0:57:16.760 --> 0:57:18.920
<v Speaker 2>play him if I didn't have to. It's just that,

0:57:19.120 --> 0:57:21.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, like, I don't think there's a safe target

0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:24.560
<v Speaker 2>floor with him and probably a max of like six

0:57:24.640 --> 0:57:28.560
<v Speaker 2>or seven targets. He only played about sixty sixty four

0:57:28.600 --> 0:57:32.280
<v Speaker 2>percent of the offensive snaps last week, and the forty

0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:34.640
<v Speaker 2>nine ers just don't use a third wide out as

0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:36.680
<v Speaker 2>much as some other teams because they like to play

0:57:36.720 --> 0:57:38.120
<v Speaker 2>cal juice check a lot.

0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:41.800
<v Speaker 1>The only interesting thing about that I'm gonna push back

0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:44.200
<v Speaker 1>against is his snap percentage might be lower, but the

0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:47.400
<v Speaker 1>target percentage of his snaps is higher, and it's it's

0:57:47.480 --> 0:57:49.160
<v Speaker 1>very similar to what they do with Juwan Jennings when

0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:51.800
<v Speaker 1>John Jennings wouldn't play the three downs, you know, or

0:57:51.840 --> 0:57:53.360
<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't be the full down guy. He'd be the

0:57:53.360 --> 0:57:55.439
<v Speaker 1>third wide receiver to come in and then they would

0:57:55.440 --> 0:57:57.480
<v Speaker 1>get him the ball. The usage of Pisaul because of

0:57:57.480 --> 0:58:00.160
<v Speaker 1>his speed makes him interesting, but I think the he

0:58:00.280 --> 0:58:03.360
<v Speaker 1>is like, he's not really trustworthy. Scott, You've got him

0:58:03.360 --> 0:58:05.400
<v Speaker 1>a little bit higher. I think you've got him more

0:58:05.600 --> 0:58:08.920
<v Speaker 1>mid flex range. Are you okay with putting him out

0:58:08.920 --> 0:58:10.040
<v Speaker 1>here this week? What's the rank?

0:58:10.800 --> 0:58:12.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I don't feel bad about it.

0:58:12.360 --> 0:58:15.080
<v Speaker 3>The only problem is that you McCaffrey's ahead of him,

0:58:15.280 --> 0:58:18.360
<v Speaker 3>Kittles ahead of him, Deebo's ahead of him. We just

0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:20.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, sang a folk song and wrote a sign

0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:23.560
<v Speaker 3>up for Drewon Jennings, who's ahead of him. So even

0:58:23.920 --> 0:58:25.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, Purty will run for maybe twenty yards in

0:58:25.960 --> 0:58:28.800
<v Speaker 3>a given week. So I think they like Pierce all

0:58:28.920 --> 0:58:30.640
<v Speaker 3>and the fact that he's doing anything after the way

0:58:30.680 --> 0:58:33.120
<v Speaker 3>his rookie season started, you know, the unfortunate news in

0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:35.000
<v Speaker 3>the summer. I mean, it's just nice to see him producing.

0:58:35.000 --> 0:58:37.680
<v Speaker 3>His touchdown was suitable for framing, but just a lot

0:58:37.720 --> 0:58:40.480
<v Speaker 3>of people, a lot of a lot of established made

0:58:40.480 --> 0:58:42.640
<v Speaker 3>men in front of him on the San Francisco offense.

0:58:42.640 --> 0:58:44.960
<v Speaker 3>So I think he's more of a you could flex him.

0:58:44.960 --> 0:58:46.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he's somebody you have to play, but

0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:48.200
<v Speaker 3>at least if you do play him, you're betting on

0:58:48.200 --> 0:58:49.120
<v Speaker 3>a good infrastructure.

0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and all of the target conversation. He did do

0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:54.959
<v Speaker 1>it this last week, So something to keep an eye

0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:57.680
<v Speaker 1>on going up against the Seahawks. The final one, I'm

0:58:57.720 --> 0:59:01.280
<v Speaker 1>actually going to turn into a little debate between these guys.

0:59:01.280 --> 0:59:05.720
<v Speaker 1>We had Jamison Williams really polarizing, kind of questionable player.

0:59:05.960 --> 0:59:09.160
<v Speaker 1>ECR thirty two. Fitch, you've got him at thirty, Pinowski

0:59:09.160 --> 0:59:10.760
<v Speaker 1>you got him at thirty four. Who you know? His

0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:14.120
<v Speaker 1>ECR is the sandwich between your guys's ranks. But it's

0:59:14.120 --> 0:59:15.840
<v Speaker 1>funny because this is a guy that was inside the

0:59:15.840 --> 0:59:17.920
<v Speaker 1>top twenty for a period of time. Another guy that

0:59:18.000 --> 0:59:20.720
<v Speaker 1>hid inside the top twenty was Brian Thomas Junior. Brian

0:59:20.760 --> 0:59:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Thomas felt we all felt very comfortable about now Mac

0:59:23.560 --> 0:59:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Jones is the quarterback, and we don't this week in

0:59:27.080 --> 0:59:30.800
<v Speaker 1>the ECR. As we are recording this, Jamison Williams is

0:59:30.960 --> 0:59:33.680
<v Speaker 1>higher than Brian Thomas right now. That's the level of

0:59:33.720 --> 0:59:37.360
<v Speaker 1>where we've gone. So, Scott, this is a Jamison Williams question.

0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:41.520
<v Speaker 1>But Jamis Williams versus Brian Thomas? Who is the winner

0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:44.400
<v Speaker 1>of this? Who you starting? And what is the rank

0:59:44.440 --> 0:59:45.440
<v Speaker 1>discrepancy for you?

0:59:46.880 --> 0:59:49.880
<v Speaker 3>I have them next to each other, but I have

0:59:49.920 --> 0:59:52.400
<v Speaker 3>to play Jamison Williams. And a month ago I would

0:59:52.400 --> 0:59:54.920
<v Speaker 3>have said, well, Jameson Williams, you're betting on a big

0:59:54.960 --> 0:59:57.720
<v Speaker 3>play on low volume Brian Thomas. He's probably a better

0:59:57.720 --> 0:59:59.760
<v Speaker 3>player right now, heavier volume.

1:00:00.240 --> 1:00:01.280
<v Speaker 4>What happened to that volume?

1:00:01.720 --> 1:00:05.280
<v Speaker 3>The last four games, Brian Thomas has three, four, four

1:00:05.320 --> 1:00:08.360
<v Speaker 3>and five targets. That's a fireable offense right there. He's

1:00:08.400 --> 1:00:10.880
<v Speaker 3>the best player on this Jacksonville offense. Everybody sees it

1:00:11.200 --> 1:00:12.560
<v Speaker 3>except for the people who need to see at the

1:00:12.600 --> 1:00:16.400
<v Speaker 3>quarterback and the coach and Detroit's man. You know, Detroit

1:00:16.600 --> 1:00:18.960
<v Speaker 3>the NFC favorite right now, probably the second Super Bowl

1:00:19.000 --> 1:00:20.840
<v Speaker 3>favorite after the Chiefs. I don't know how the Chiefs.

1:00:21.040 --> 1:00:22.400
<v Speaker 3>How much longer the Chiefs are going to make up

1:00:22.440 --> 1:00:24.080
<v Speaker 3>these ways to win games, but they keep doing it.

1:00:24.160 --> 1:00:28.400
<v Speaker 3>But don't miss how good the Detroit defense is playing

1:00:28.440 --> 1:00:30.040
<v Speaker 3>right kept them in that game. They should have been

1:00:30.080 --> 1:00:31.720
<v Speaker 3>blown out in the first half when Golf was just

1:00:31.720 --> 1:00:34.280
<v Speaker 3>s throwing picks every other snap. Defense kept them in

1:00:34.280 --> 1:00:36.120
<v Speaker 3>the game, forced a lot of field goals or secondaries

1:00:36.120 --> 1:00:38.320
<v Speaker 3>playing really well the pass rush. They have to blitz more.

1:00:38.360 --> 1:00:41.160
<v Speaker 3>With Hutchinson out. I know eventually hy Darius White will

1:00:41.160 --> 1:00:44.480
<v Speaker 3>step in, but their secondary has been unbelievable. I think

1:00:44.480 --> 1:00:47.000
<v Speaker 3>they're actually going to do a decent job with Thomas here.

1:00:47.120 --> 1:00:50.440
<v Speaker 3>So Jameson Williams, you're only get in four or five targets.

1:00:50.440 --> 1:00:52.480
<v Speaker 3>You just hope it's at least they you know, they

1:00:52.760 --> 1:00:55.440
<v Speaker 3>scheme up a lot of splashy plays for him, and

1:00:55.800 --> 1:00:57.840
<v Speaker 3>it's an offense. You know, Ben Johnson is going to

1:00:57.880 --> 1:00:59.480
<v Speaker 3>be a head coach next year. He knows how to

1:00:59.520 --> 1:01:01.640
<v Speaker 3>use James Williams. A little bit frustrated that Jameson Wims

1:01:01.680 --> 1:01:03.760
<v Speaker 3>has turned into a one man bingo card with some

1:01:03.800 --> 1:01:06.560
<v Speaker 3>of his off the field problems. But I just don't

1:01:06.560 --> 1:01:09.360
<v Speaker 3>trust the Jaguars. You would think Gamescript right, he's going

1:01:09.440 --> 1:01:10.400
<v Speaker 3>to see eight to ten targets.

1:01:10.400 --> 1:01:11.480
<v Speaker 4>He has to. They're going to get.

1:01:11.320 --> 1:01:13.800
<v Speaker 3>Blown out here, But on trust Mac Jones. I think

1:01:13.800 --> 1:01:15.920
<v Speaker 3>Detroit's secondary is playing awfully well. I think this is

1:01:15.920 --> 1:01:17.880
<v Speaker 3>going to be a blowout where maybe the Jaguars score

1:01:17.960 --> 1:01:20.200
<v Speaker 3>one touchdown for the first time all season.

1:01:20.200 --> 1:01:22.160
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to start. Brian Thomas Junior.

1:01:22.480 --> 1:01:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Tell you what which Jamison Williams's only gambling issue was

1:01:25.400 --> 1:01:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Bingo Fitz. What do you think about Brian Thomas Junior

1:01:29.000 --> 1:01:32.280
<v Speaker 1>versus Jamison Williams. Is there a rank of difference ec

1:01:32.440 --> 1:01:33.880
<v Speaker 1>R s is there next to each other, but in

1:01:33.920 --> 1:01:35.320
<v Speaker 1>favor of Jamison.

1:01:35.040 --> 1:01:38.200
<v Speaker 2>I've got Jamison like seven spots higher. And I totally

1:01:38.240 --> 1:01:40.200
<v Speaker 2>agree with Scott. Give me the guy in the Arnold

1:01:40.200 --> 1:01:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Schwarzenegger offense versus the guy in the Pee wee Herman offense.

1:01:44.000 --> 1:01:47.760
<v Speaker 2>And again, like we targets are not really that big

1:01:47.800 --> 1:01:50.000
<v Speaker 2>a difference, Like neither guy is getting the amount of

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<v Speaker 2>targets you want to see. And we know that the

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<v Speaker 2>Lions will just squeeze the life out of opponents with

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<v Speaker 2>the running game if they can, and they probably can

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<v Speaker 2>this week as thirteen and a half point home favorites

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<v Speaker 2>against the Jags. So Jared Goff has thrown twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>or fewer passes, and six of Detroit's nine games this

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<v Speaker 2>season under twenty passes twice, So this could be a

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<v Speaker 2>game where maybe Gough only throws like sixteen or seventeen passes.

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<v Speaker 2>But look, we could see two or three huge plays

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<v Speaker 2>for Jamison Williams long gains touchdowns, or we could basically

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<v Speaker 2>see the Lions throw on the wishbone and he gets

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<v Speaker 2>like one catch for eleven yards. So it's not without risk.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, there's just nothing to like about this Jaguars

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<v Speaker 2>offense right now.

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<v Speaker 4>You know you mentioned Pewee Herman.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't watch the pee Wee Herman show, but I

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<v Speaker 3>am old enough to remember when Irving Fryar would celebrate

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<v Speaker 3>touchdowns with a pee Wee Herman celebration. Somebody had to

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<v Speaker 3>tell me it was a pee Wee Herman celebration because

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<v Speaker 3>I really didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Know much about pee Wee Herman.

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<v Speaker 3>But Irving Fryar, former number one overall pick out of Nebraska,

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<v Speaker 3>what are those weird players? By the way, who was

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<v Speaker 3>better in the second half of his career. He actually

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<v Speaker 3>was really good for the Eagles for a while, was

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<v Speaker 3>really good for Miami for a while. The joke with

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<v Speaker 3>with with Fryar was that he had a problem with

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<v Speaker 3>there was a knife in the knife incident in his

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<v Speaker 3>kitchen one day, and then he left a game early

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<v Speaker 3>once and got in a car accident. And two different

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<v Speaker 3>Boston Globe sports writers had the same lead. It was

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<v Speaker 3>first it was a knife in the kitchen, then it

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<v Speaker 3>was a fok in the road, and those two writers

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<v Speaker 3>to this day debate on who actually wrote it and

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<v Speaker 3>who actually stole it from the other guy. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>going to name the two writers involved, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>I know my call. You at the Province Journal I

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<v Speaker 3>believe was in the right, and the guy at the

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<v Speaker 3>Boston Globe I believe was in the wrong. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>Irving Fryar, what a time to be alive with the

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighties New England Patriots.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's jump right into our quarterback rankings, and yes we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to talk about said Anthony Richardson, because guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>he is not going to be in this top twelve

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<v Speaker 1>maybe no matter what, he won't be. But that was

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<v Speaker 1>the news that broke before we started recording. Anthony Richardson

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<v Speaker 1>is back in as quarterback for the Colts rest of season,

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<v Speaker 1>so even if he were to be top twelve, he

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<v Speaker 1>is not reflective on here what the top twelve board

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<v Speaker 1>looks like which will jump into quarterback number one Jalen Hurts.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Jayden Daniels, and Brock

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<v Speaker 1>Perty rounding out our top five. Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert,

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<v Speaker 1>Jared Goff, Jordan Love, Russ Wilson, Bow Knicks and Patrick Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 1>That is your top twelve. Those are pretty chalky plays.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not so much bo Nix, but the rushing side

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<v Speaker 1>has definitely pushed him into here. We do have a

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<v Speaker 1>fun question on one of these I got to hit,

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<v Speaker 1>but we got to talk about Anthony Richardson at the

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<v Speaker 1>top here and Fitz, let's start with you. He is

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<v Speaker 1>now the starting quarterback. A. Will he be in the

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<v Speaker 1>top twelve if not? B? Will he even sniff the

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<v Speaker 1>top twelve? What does this do to your quarterback rankings?

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<v Speaker 1>With Richardson joining the Fray.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've slotted him in at quarterback twenty or

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback twenty one, which is about four spots higher than

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<v Speaker 2>I had Joe Flacco when I thought he was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the starter. I doubt he's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to do a lot of business through the air

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<v Speaker 2>against the Jets. I know the Jets defense has been

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<v Speaker 2>really disappointing in a lot of ways this season, but

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<v Speaker 2>the metric skill say it's a pretty good pass defense.

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<v Speaker 2>So Anthony Richardson is always a threat to do damage

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<v Speaker 2>as a runner, but that's sort of inconsistent damage and

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<v Speaker 2>you don't really get it every week, or at least

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't in the games he's played this season. So

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<v Speaker 2>really hit or miss mid range to low end QB two.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott, did you have on your player card at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the season that bow Knicks would be just

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<v Speaker 1>ten spots higher than Anthony Richardson every single week? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna guess you're gonna probably have him in that twenty

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<v Speaker 1>range too. Bow Nick and Anthony Richardson is not even

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<v Speaker 1>a fantasy question at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, in a season where I've gotten a lot wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>I was actually pretty far ahead of the bow Knicks consensus.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he was a really good super flex play.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's one thing I got right. It's not a

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<v Speaker 3>league winning decision, but it is a green check mark.

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<v Speaker 3>But one thing I'm worried about with Anthony Richardson he

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<v Speaker 3>slots quarterback twenty four for me, is that he's made

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<v Speaker 3>bad decisions, not just in the pocket but as a runner,

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<v Speaker 3>and I wonder if they're going to be less proactive

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<v Speaker 3>with him as a runner. I know this is speculation.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, who the heck knows? And the Jets defense,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I would like to think the Jets defense

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<v Speaker 3>will actually show up this week. They did not show

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<v Speaker 3>up at Arizona. What twenty eight first downs on fifty

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<v Speaker 3>seven snaps or something like that. That's a historically bad

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<v Speaker 3>performance against that. I'llbe at an Arizona offense that can

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<v Speaker 3>make you look bad on the right day. But I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what version of Richardson we're getting. The thing

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<v Speaker 3>I really to point out is that the Colts have

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<v Speaker 3>played a harder than average schedule to this point. The

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<v Speaker 3>schedule gets easier going forward. This is a good on

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<v Speaker 3>board spot, even if we're being denied the Joe flackovervenge.

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<v Speaker 3>Get a lot of revenge games every week. The flackover

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<v Speaker 3>revenge game against the Jets I was looking forward to.

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<v Speaker 3>We've been denied that. But I don't see the same

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<v Speaker 3>rushing equity for Richardson that I might have seen two

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<v Speaker 3>months ago. Even two months ago, I was like, why

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<v Speaker 3>are you taking Anthony Richardson. Jaden Daniels offers all the

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<v Speaker 3>things you like about Richardson, and he's already a better passer,

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<v Speaker 3>he's already had more experience as a college player. There

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<v Speaker 3>are just so many flags with Richardson anyway. But the

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<v Speaker 3>culture doing the right thing, I know it kind of

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<v Speaker 3>took their wide receiver ranks all down. We talked about

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<v Speaker 3>that on the different podcast. But I don't have Richardson

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<v Speaker 3>as a proactive play at all, even in super flex leagues.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like to see a game approve it game before

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<v Speaker 3>I put anything close to a circle of trust.

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<v Speaker 1>So he might be the quarterback that's on people's minds

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<v Speaker 1>because it's in the news, but it doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 1>he's fantasy relevant. I think that's a big thing to

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<v Speaker 1>take away because I think people are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>tempted with asking that question, one that maybe people did

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<v Speaker 1>not also have on their card and just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stands out a little bit when you see a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of Chalky plays. Is Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson is ten

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<v Speaker 1>on the QB list this week, going up against Baltimore,

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<v Speaker 1>which is actually given a four star rating on Fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>pros ranks and a B matchup grade. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>where you two have got a really big discrepancy as

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<v Speaker 1>far as QB goes. Scott, you are higher. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>him at QB seven and Fitz does not have him

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<v Speaker 1>as QB one. So Scott, let's start with you on

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<v Speaker 1>your take and why you've got Russell Wilson so high

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<v Speaker 1>on these ranks.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that the touchdown rate for Russell Wilson is

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<v Speaker 3>probably unsustainable, and we know Pittsburgh runs the ball more

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<v Speaker 3>proactively than any team in the NFL, but they have

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<v Speaker 3>to look at this matchup. Everybody is throwing the ball

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<v Speaker 3>all over the yard against the Ravens. Doesn't matter if

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<v Speaker 3>you're a good offense a bad offense. How did the

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<v Speaker 3>Raiders ever win at Baltimore?

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<v Speaker 4>It's never going to figure that one out.

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<v Speaker 3>But so I think Russell Wilson already has two touchdowns

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<v Speaker 3>in his back pocket. And if the Ravens, granted we

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<v Speaker 3>think about Baltimore Pittsburgh games, they're usually those rock fights,

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<v Speaker 3>those sixteen thirteen games. This is going to blow up

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<v Speaker 3>that that theme. This is going to be a thirty

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<v Speaker 3>to twenty seven type of game, or at least a

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four to twenty three type of game, and so

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<v Speaker 3>I think Wilson will get his multiple touchdowns, will probably

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<v Speaker 3>pass thirty to thirty five, maybe even forty times in

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<v Speaker 3>this game.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not the way Pittsburgh wants to play.

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<v Speaker 3>Baltimore will force them because of the correct the quality

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<v Speaker 3>of their offense and because of the shoddy nature of

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<v Speaker 3>their secondary. Just everybody, I think what Jameis Winston did

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<v Speaker 3>against the Ravens with a few picks to the side

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<v Speaker 3>or drop picks to the side. I mean, everybody throws

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<v Speaker 3>against Baltimore. I think Pittsburgh would be silly not to

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<v Speaker 3>try to take advantage of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's clearly going to be the game plan

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<v Speaker 1>is you can throw on Baltimore if anything else, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you can do. But fits you're not as optimistic.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got him a QB sixteen right now. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>like mid tier, like super flex second quarterback, not touch

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<v Speaker 1>in the top ten.

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<v Speaker 2>The ranking of Ross is one I was very conflicted

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<v Speaker 2>on this week, and maybe I should pay heed to

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<v Speaker 2>the ranking or the matchup. I should say, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you can throw on Baltimore. It's hard to run on Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 2>They are a pass funnel defense. I just wonder, like,

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<v Speaker 2>is Arthur Smith going to play into that or will

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<v Speaker 2>he beat his head against the brick wall and keep

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<v Speaker 2>trying to run it? Because the Steelers are the second

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<v Speaker 2>run heaviest team in the league. They're running the bond

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<v Speaker 2>fifty three point three percent of their offensive plays. Russ

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<v Speaker 2>has thrown fewer than thirty passes and all three of

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<v Speaker 2>us starts so far, and Scott mentioned it like the

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<v Speaker 2>touchdown rate seven point one percent probably not sustainable. Averaging

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<v Speaker 2>eight point seven yards per attempts so far, that's better

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<v Speaker 2>than any season he's had in his career. Even his

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<v Speaker 2>heyday in Seattle, his high watermark was eight point three

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<v Speaker 2>yards per attenpt So I don't love his pass catching weaponry,

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<v Speaker 2>even with the addition of Mike Williams. So I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>sort of wondering if we are going to see Arthur

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<v Speaker 2>Smith sort of open up the throttle with this offense

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<v Speaker 2>and throw it a lot. And you know, I just

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<v Speaker 2>I think Russ is over his head with the efficiency

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<v Speaker 2>so far.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, come on, Pat, when is Russ?

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<v Speaker 3>When has Arthur Smith ever ever let us down?

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<v Speaker 1>Never? No kidding the quarterback you have kind of on

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite end like your version of Russ here, Pat

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<v Speaker 1>is CJ. Stroud. He comes in at ECR thirteen, so

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't make this top twelve list. You've got him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I have this. I have that inverse, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually Scott. You have him at eleven and Pat

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<v Speaker 1>you also hate, you hate all of these quarterbacks at

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<v Speaker 1>Scott likes, so I don't shame on you.

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<v Speaker 4>C J.

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<v Speaker 1>Stroud comes in at eleven for Scott fits at eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So actually, let's fits. Why do you hate CJ?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>The obvious? Can I say?

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<v Speaker 2>I hate his offensive line and like CJ Stroud a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like Houston's offensive line has been crisis level

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<v Speaker 2>bad now for a month, and over that last month

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<v Speaker 2>four games, CJ. Stroud has completed fifty three point seven

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<v Speaker 2>percent of his passes, averaging one hundred and ninety eight

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<v Speaker 2>point five passing yards per game in six point six

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<v Speaker 2>yards per attempt, and he's been sacked eighteen times. So

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<v Speaker 2>even though Stroud is probably getting Nico Collins back this week,

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<v Speaker 2>even though he's got a very enticing matchup against the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 2>and by the way, it's a much more enticing matchup

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<v Speaker 2>for CJ. Stroud than it is for anyone who wants

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<v Speaker 2>to watch Sunday night football this week. I mean, what

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<v Speaker 2>a terrible capper to a Sunday of football. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't get over how bad the Houston offensive

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<v Speaker 2>line has been. And that's why I can't can't rank

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<v Speaker 2>Stroud anywhere near QB one territory.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott is pretty easy to envision that this is relative

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<v Speaker 1>to Nico Collins being back finally and just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>improving this offense in general.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm glad the game is on Monday, and I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sad the game is on Monday night because if

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<v Speaker 3>it we're a Sunday night game, I think they put

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<v Speaker 3>one flexed out of it. And that's a decision the

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<v Speaker 3>NFL has to make with a lot of Dallas games.

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<v Speaker 3>We can't flex out of the Thanksgiving game, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's a bunch of standalone Cowboy games that the

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<v Speaker 3>NFL is going to want. Do people want to watch

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<v Speaker 3>the train Wreck? Do people want to watch Jerry Jones

1:12:25.960 --> 1:12:29.040
<v Speaker 3>rose fists up against the Sun. What a strange conversation

1:12:29.160 --> 1:12:32.479
<v Speaker 3>that was. I've actually, in my recent exclusive to you

1:12:32.600 --> 1:12:34.160
<v Speaker 3>Fantasy pros ranks, I've moved CJ.

1:12:34.280 --> 1:12:35.720
<v Speaker 4>Stroud down to fourteen.

1:12:35.360 --> 1:12:40.200
<v Speaker 3>And I agree with Pat's concerns about that offensive line. Also,

1:12:40.360 --> 1:12:42.960
<v Speaker 3>this is a game you think it's always a double

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<v Speaker 3>edged It's always a hit or a miss, or a

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<v Speaker 3>gift and a curse when you have an opponent you're

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to handle comfortably. But does that mean Stroud has

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<v Speaker 3>to make his hay in two or three quarters because

1:12:53.360 --> 1:12:55.439
<v Speaker 3>the fourth quarter is handing off the fourth quarter? Maybe

1:12:55.439 --> 1:12:57.599
<v Speaker 3>he's on the bench because the game has gotten out

1:12:57.640 --> 1:12:59.720
<v Speaker 3>of hand. I do think they got something going with

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<v Speaker 3>on Mechi last week, and maybe he could be the

1:13:02.160 --> 1:13:04.479
<v Speaker 3>third piece at this passing game desperately needs. And I

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<v Speaker 3>would think Collins being as close as he was last week,

1:13:07.400 --> 1:13:09.759
<v Speaker 3>I feel pretty confident he will.

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<v Speaker 4>Play this week.

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<v Speaker 3>But some of the seam calls, I have Nix over Stroud.

1:13:13.439 --> 1:13:15.880
<v Speaker 3>Now I have Golf over Stroud. It's hard to know

1:13:15.880 --> 1:13:17.800
<v Speaker 3>what you're getting from Golf, but I still have him higher.

1:13:18.080 --> 1:13:20.320
<v Speaker 4>I have Patrick Mahomes. What a weird fantasy season.

1:13:20.360 --> 1:13:22.719
<v Speaker 3>He's had maybe a season and a half at this point.

1:13:22.760 --> 1:13:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Even Jameis Winston revenge over c. J.

1:13:25.479 --> 1:13:25.839
<v Speaker 4>Stroud.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's just a seam call for me. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>trust the offensive line, and I think Bobby Slowick needs

1:13:31.160 --> 1:13:33.879
<v Speaker 3>to get more of those easy buttons and more screens,

1:13:33.960 --> 1:13:36.960
<v Speaker 3>more quick hitters because c J. Stroud they've rattled the

1:13:36.960 --> 1:13:39.439
<v Speaker 3>cage and he doesn't have the confidence and the pocket

1:13:39.920 --> 1:13:42.040
<v Speaker 3>presence that maybe we saw in his rookie year, and

1:13:42.040 --> 1:13:44.040
<v Speaker 3>that's something they need to rebuild if Houston's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a serious team in the playoffs. You know, another

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<v Speaker 3>thing with the factor and for fantasy, by the way,

1:13:48.800 --> 1:13:51.559
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there are a lot of teams Buffalo, Houston,

1:13:52.240 --> 1:13:54.280
<v Speaker 3>the Lions may come into this. We'll see where it goes.

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<v Speaker 3>But the Chiefs for sure that could probably clinch their

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<v Speaker 3>divisions really really early.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:13:59.240 --> 1:14:02.400
<v Speaker 3>Almost wonder if the needs a different structure because these

1:14:02.439 --> 1:14:05.479
<v Speaker 3>fourteen divisions can often get out of hand quickly, and

1:14:05.520 --> 1:14:08.240
<v Speaker 3>then teams have to play a very unusual guessing game

1:14:08.280 --> 1:14:11.080
<v Speaker 3>in December. You know, how much should we play hurt guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 4>Should we rest?

1:14:12.240 --> 1:14:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Are we gonna get rusty or we're gonna get boat

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<v Speaker 3>rested in the playoffs because we're not sharp. I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit worried about what some of these teams are

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<v Speaker 3>going to look like in December when they don't have

1:14:19.760 --> 1:14:22.599
<v Speaker 3>playoff positioning really to fight over. So be glad if

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<v Speaker 3>your players are in divisions that are competitive. Forty nine

1:14:25.800 --> 1:14:27.559
<v Speaker 3>ers come to mind, because they're going to need every game.

1:14:27.600 --> 1:14:30.080
<v Speaker 3>But seat your shot for me, as somebody probably needs

1:14:30.080 --> 1:14:32.080
<v Speaker 3>a prove it week before he's in any level of

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<v Speaker 3>trust for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go look at the tight end ranks. The top

1:14:36.160 --> 1:14:38.200
<v Speaker 1>twelve on the board for this week. Speaking of the

1:14:38.200 --> 1:14:40.280
<v Speaker 1>forty nine ers, George Kittle is at the tippy top.

1:14:40.320 --> 1:14:42.479
<v Speaker 1>For our tight end ranks, We've got Travis Kelce Brock

1:14:42.560 --> 1:14:46.679
<v Speaker 1>Bauers copy paste for your top three. David Njoku comes

1:14:46.680 --> 1:14:49.400
<v Speaker 1>in at number four, followed by t J. Hockinson, Bam

1:14:49.560 --> 1:14:52.160
<v Speaker 1>TJ Hawkinson top five. Well, I almost acted like more

1:14:52.200 --> 1:14:54.559
<v Speaker 1>surprise than I should have been. Mark Andrews at six.

1:14:54.600 --> 1:14:57.839
<v Speaker 1>Evan Ingram, Kyle Pitts, Tucker Craft, Taysom Hill, Sam Laporta,

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<v Speaker 1>and Dallas Goddard pretty standard ish names. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>hard to talk yourself off of those. Taysom Hill maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like the dicest of questionable ones, but we do have

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<v Speaker 1>a few little discrepancies as far as the ranks go.

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<v Speaker 1>Evan Ingram, e c R seven, Scott You've got him

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<v Speaker 1>at eight and fits you got him at ten. Fits.

1:15:17.240 --> 1:15:19.519
<v Speaker 1>Is this all about mac Jones. Mac Jones not throwing

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<v Speaker 1>to tight ends or being efficient or just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being good?

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<v Speaker 5>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you talked about the grossness of the tight

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<v Speaker 2>end position well sh at the top of the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, there you have it. Like two of the

1:15:29.840 --> 1:15:32.720
<v Speaker 2>guys we thought maybe were dependable at least as far

1:15:32.760 --> 1:15:37.040
<v Speaker 2>as volume, Evan Ingram Jake Ferguson completely kneecapped by their

1:15:37.080 --> 1:15:40.840
<v Speaker 2>quarterback situations now. So those guys are outside the circle

1:15:40.840 --> 1:15:44.800
<v Speaker 2>of trust where they were once safely inside. And this

1:15:44.840 --> 1:15:48.400
<v Speaker 2>is why we're pumping up TJ. Howkinson, a guy coming

1:15:48.400 --> 1:15:51.639
<v Speaker 2>off a major knee injury, and Mark Andrews, a guy

1:15:51.640 --> 1:15:55.120
<v Speaker 2>who you know was a ghost for the first five

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<v Speaker 2>or six games of the season, all of a sudden

1:15:57.240 --> 1:16:00.479
<v Speaker 2>their top six tight ends now. So yeah, I mean

1:16:00.520 --> 1:16:03.439
<v Speaker 2>like Ingram at eight targets last week six catches. Those

1:16:03.479 --> 1:16:07.080
<v Speaker 2>six catches netted forty yards. I feel like that's basically

1:16:07.120 --> 1:16:10.320
<v Speaker 2>like a good outcome for Evan Ingram, which is pretty sad.

1:16:11.120 --> 1:16:13.559
<v Speaker 1>I remember, it's just like every week it was just like, oh,

1:16:13.560 --> 1:16:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Mark Andrews, Mark Andrews, and it's just like we're in

1:16:15.400 --> 1:16:17.080
<v Speaker 1>a place now where it's like, oh my god, like

1:16:17.120 --> 1:16:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I wish you had Mark Andrews, you know, weekend and

1:16:20.160 --> 1:16:23.839
<v Speaker 1>week out. But Scott your your take on Evan.

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<v Speaker 3>Ingram, I'm just afraid they're going to score ten points

1:16:26.720 --> 1:16:30.559
<v Speaker 3>for fewer And again, I think really highly of this

1:16:30.600 --> 1:16:33.160
<v Speaker 3>Detroit defense, Aaron Glenn doing great job as coordinator. It

1:16:33.200 --> 1:16:35.920
<v Speaker 3>just a shame Hutchinson got hurt because he was going

1:16:35.920 --> 1:16:37.640
<v Speaker 3>to be in contention, I think for Defensive Player of

1:16:37.680 --> 1:16:39.800
<v Speaker 3>the Year. But Darius Smith will offset some of that.

1:16:40.320 --> 1:16:43.040
<v Speaker 3>They got playmakers on all three levels. And this game

1:16:43.080 --> 1:16:45.559
<v Speaker 3>is going to get ugly. I know people might think,

1:16:45.560 --> 1:16:48.200
<v Speaker 3>well they just beat Houston, this big statement game, national TV.

1:16:48.240 --> 1:16:50.280
<v Speaker 3>Maybe this will let down. This is going to be

1:16:50.320 --> 1:16:52.640
<v Speaker 3>twenty eight nothing at halftime, and it's just gonna be

1:16:52.680 --> 1:16:55.000
<v Speaker 3>a matter of what the Jaguars do. Do they try

1:16:55.000 --> 1:16:57.040
<v Speaker 3>to come back or they just you know, run the ball,

1:16:57.080 --> 1:16:59.559
<v Speaker 3>get on the bus and reevaluate. Maybe Doug Peterson doesn't

1:16:59.560 --> 1:17:02.840
<v Speaker 3>make it out of November, but this is you can't

1:17:04.120 --> 1:17:05.640
<v Speaker 3>One thing you could always hang your hat on with

1:17:05.760 --> 1:17:08.479
<v Speaker 3>Ingram is that Trevor Lawrence never met a five yard pass.

1:17:08.520 --> 1:17:10.040
<v Speaker 3>You didn't want to throw. I don't know if mac

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<v Speaker 3>Jones is gonna be the same guy or not. I mean,

1:17:11.640 --> 1:17:13.840
<v Speaker 3>as poorly as Lawrence is playing, we have to take

1:17:13.880 --> 1:17:16.880
<v Speaker 3>this offense even further down with mac Jones. So I

1:17:16.960 --> 1:17:20.559
<v Speaker 3>mean Tuckercraft for me is over Ingram Pitts, who's never

1:17:20.600 --> 1:17:22.840
<v Speaker 3>somebody you can never feel that good about, is over Ingram.

1:17:22.840 --> 1:17:24.920
<v Speaker 4>And I may even play Taysom Hill over ever and

1:17:25.040 --> 1:17:25.519
<v Speaker 4>Ingram too.

1:17:25.840 --> 1:17:27.720
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, the Lions of a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the second fewest fantasy points to tight ends too, So

1:17:30.080 --> 1:17:32.759
<v Speaker 2>it's a bad matchup and it's the mac Jones factor.

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<v Speaker 1>do that Betting the first half of the Detroit Lions.

1:18:08.600 --> 1:18:11.599
<v Speaker 1>Whatever the spread is, I will be doing that. Another

1:18:11.680 --> 1:18:15.680
<v Speaker 1>tight end on here is Dallas Goddard. Dallas Goddard tight

1:18:15.800 --> 1:18:18.080
<v Speaker 1>end twelve. Pinowski, you got him at twelve, fits, you've

1:18:18.080 --> 1:18:20.800
<v Speaker 1>got him at sixteen. So let's go to the hate

1:18:20.840 --> 1:18:23.040
<v Speaker 1>real quick. One thing I was going to note is like,

1:18:23.760 --> 1:18:25.479
<v Speaker 1>it's funny because I felt like there was so much

1:18:25.520 --> 1:18:26.960
<v Speaker 1>like every week it was like, oh, you know, this

1:18:27.000 --> 1:18:28.679
<v Speaker 1>guy could maybe do this, and it was like maybe

1:18:28.680 --> 1:18:31.960
<v Speaker 1>we go here. I don't feel like that exists anymore.

1:18:31.960 --> 1:18:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Like we're not interested in Cole Kmet you know, like

1:18:34.280 --> 1:18:38.640
<v Speaker 1>prat firemooth is, you know, you're kind of screwed and

1:18:38.680 --> 1:18:40.280
<v Speaker 1>you got to throw him in here. We're not trying

1:18:40.320 --> 1:18:43.439
<v Speaker 1>to make statements for Colby Parkinson. Like we kind of

1:18:43.479 --> 1:18:45.439
<v Speaker 1>know what tight end is now and it's not that

1:18:45.640 --> 1:18:48.880
<v Speaker 1>great and Dallas Goddard is probably a representation of it

1:18:48.920 --> 1:18:50.960
<v Speaker 1>and he has fallen outside of your top twelve.

1:18:51.240 --> 1:18:51.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:18:51.439 --> 1:18:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I hate to be the hater on the Quarterback tight

1:18:54.080 --> 1:18:56.840
<v Speaker 2>End Show, the designated hater, but I have to be

1:18:56.920 --> 1:19:00.240
<v Speaker 2>that way because while it was nice to see Dallallas

1:19:00.280 --> 1:19:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Goddard come back and score a touchdown, in his first

1:19:02.600 --> 1:19:05.240
<v Speaker 2>game back from an ankle injury, he did have two

1:19:05.280 --> 1:19:07.640
<v Speaker 2>catches for twenty five yards, and that's kind of the

1:19:07.680 --> 1:19:12.360
<v Speaker 2>concern with me, the target volume, the reception volume. Jalen

1:19:12.400 --> 1:19:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Hurts his thrown twenty five or fewer passes in each

1:19:16.439 --> 1:19:20.240
<v Speaker 2>of his last five games. This is another team that

1:19:20.360 --> 1:19:22.960
<v Speaker 2>will try to line it up in the wishbone practically

1:19:23.000 --> 1:19:25.960
<v Speaker 2>and run it down your throats. The Eagles They've averaged

1:19:26.000 --> 1:19:29.200
<v Speaker 2>twenty point six pass attempts over those five games, So

1:19:29.360 --> 1:19:31.920
<v Speaker 2>this is the run heaviest team in the league, and

1:19:32.000 --> 1:19:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Goddard has to share what few targets there are with

1:19:35.320 --> 1:19:38.960
<v Speaker 2>aj Brown and DeVante Smith Scott.

1:19:39.080 --> 1:19:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Is Dallas Goddard the line of like where you just

1:19:43.200 --> 1:19:45.240
<v Speaker 1>put your hand your hands up at tight an You're like,

1:19:45.320 --> 1:19:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like you know cause you got like

1:19:46.840 --> 1:19:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Laporta before that taysto them. We kind of know what

1:19:49.240 --> 1:19:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Taysom Hill is, But is Dallas Goddard the start of

1:19:52.120 --> 1:19:55.880
<v Speaker 1>like okay, like literally this is like an audible version

1:19:55.880 --> 1:19:59.519
<v Speaker 1>of Dallas Goddard is going okay, like is that what

1:19:59.600 --> 1:20:01.080
<v Speaker 1>he is? Or do you have a little bit more

1:20:01.120 --> 1:20:01.720
<v Speaker 1>trust in him?

1:20:01.800 --> 1:20:02.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1:20:02.080 --> 1:20:03.840
<v Speaker 3>It's like kind of punt formation right, I mean, are

1:20:03.800 --> 1:20:06.200
<v Speaker 3>you playing him or Friarmouth you're playing him, or even

1:20:06.240 --> 1:20:09.519
<v Speaker 3>Will Disley or Jake Ferguson with no quarterback Hunter Henry

1:20:09.560 --> 1:20:11.000
<v Speaker 3>not consistent, John new Smith.

1:20:11.439 --> 1:20:12.040
<v Speaker 4>Guys like that.

1:20:12.560 --> 1:20:15.200
<v Speaker 3>When Goddard has produced this week, it's been this year,

1:20:15.240 --> 1:20:16.120
<v Speaker 3>it's been because one of.

1:20:16.040 --> 1:20:18.160
<v Speaker 4>His major receivers hasn't been available.

1:20:18.200 --> 1:20:21.320
<v Speaker 3>So with everybody on deck in Philadelphia, you figure out

1:20:21.320 --> 1:20:22.559
<v Speaker 3>he's gonna have two or three catches.

1:20:23.800 --> 1:20:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, you're gonna probably have a lot more

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