WEBVTT - Height, Health and Human Happiness

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how stup

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<v Speaker 1>works dot com. Hey you welcome to stuff to blow

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<v Speaker 1>your mind. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Christian Seger. Robert.

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<v Speaker 1>The audience probably doesn't know this, but you're a tall person.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm reasonably tall. I'm six two or six three. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're taller than me and Joe for sure. Though, as

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<v Speaker 1>we found out when we did our photo shoots a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of months ago, we always and whenever we do

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<v Speaker 1>the Facebook lives, we usually end up putting you in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle. So it's not like this weird lopsided three

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<v Speaker 1>headed creature. But yeah, you're definitely taller than the two

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<v Speaker 1>of us. I'm five. Depending on I guess, like how

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<v Speaker 1>how good my day is going. You know, it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to think about exact heights because some of the literature

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<v Speaker 1>were looking after this episode. I saw estimations onto what

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<v Speaker 1>degree nan round up their height? Oh yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>I find that I tend to round down. Really, I

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<v Speaker 1>can make a claim for six three, but I'd rather

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<v Speaker 1>just be six two, like I'm calling it at six two.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I bumped my head enough at six to uh

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<v Speaker 1>if I even think I'm a little bit taller. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm just gonna have more head injuries. That's

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<v Speaker 1>funny because I do the opposite. I totally round up

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, you know, when when I get the

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<v Speaker 1>measurement at like the doctor's office or whatever, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>five nine and three quarters or something like that, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not totally five ten, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>say five ten to everybody. That's interesting, huh that somebody

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<v Speaker 1>should do a study on that. Uh, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>interesting in relation to what we're gonna talk about today.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is one of those like scientific I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>past times that we end up seeing in like our

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<v Speaker 1>popular media a lot, like especially newspapers, that it's basically

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<v Speaker 1>like every couple of months, there's a publication that comes

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<v Speaker 1>out and it says, well, if you're over this height,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you're tall, then you're gonna live longer. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're short, you're gonna a die sooner, right, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>then like people read that and they're like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>they go out of their minds. They start they go

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<v Speaker 1>out and they run for like two weeks, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they're like it's fine whatever. Well, and then likewise when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to psychology. Uh, you'll find studies that that

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<v Speaker 1>are basically saying, oh, well, well short, shorter people that

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<v Speaker 1>behave like this, taller people behave like this. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we start turning the microscope on ourselves and like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>am I like that? Do I have a Napoleon complex?

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<v Speaker 1>Or am I do I have some sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>tall person vanity? And uh, it gets problematic because you

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<v Speaker 1>end up with these broad generalities, oftentimes supported, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>the psychology realm, by studies that are maybe not that

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<v Speaker 1>large and convinced. Yeah, And so this is how we

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<v Speaker 1>got on the track for this episode. Was one of

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<v Speaker 1>these studies across our desk and we're like, oh, that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of interesting, and it was, well, we'll mention it later,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was about height and lung disease, and we

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<v Speaker 1>were like, let's actually like take a look at like

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<v Speaker 1>the gamut here and see like all these studies together,

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<v Speaker 1>what we actually come down to, like, what is is

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<v Speaker 1>there anything to this? And if there is, is it

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<v Speaker 1>better to be taller? Is it better to be short?

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of health and both physical and mental? I

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<v Speaker 1>want to touch on just a couple of quick overviews

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<v Speaker 1>about human height. So over the last hundred and fifty years,

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<v Speaker 1>the average height of people in industrialized nations has increased

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<v Speaker 1>approximately ten centimeters or about four inches, and today the

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<v Speaker 1>average human height is currently about five ft seven and

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<v Speaker 1>a half inches for males or one seven two centimeters

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<v Speaker 1>and five ft two or one d fifty eight centimeters

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<v Speaker 1>for females. Uh. And the this has said a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty years out of all human history, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>very recent development. We actually have another episode of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to blow your mind wanted to with Joe a while

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<v Speaker 1>back called Colossal the Science of Human Height that gets

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<v Speaker 1>a little more into why humans have grown or have

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<v Speaker 1>grown taller in the last hundred and fifty years, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as a look at certain gigantism scenarios. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>that hundred and fifty years or so ends up pretty

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<v Speaker 1>well with our understanding of why height is related to health,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the basic assumption goes something like this that, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a combination of your genetic potential and what's referred

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<v Speaker 1>to as net nutrition. So this is the food you taken,

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<v Speaker 1>especially during childhood, and how it determines how tall you

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<v Speaker 1>can grow. But then it's referred to as net nutrition

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<v Speaker 1>because there's things that can take away from the the net,

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<v Speaker 1>such as disease. So if you're if you have disease

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<v Speaker 1>in in your childhood, that can subtract from your net nutrition,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe leading to being a little shorter. So what we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing is like as our nutrition has gotten better, as

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<v Speaker 1>the world has become more developed, as wealth is spread around.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why, especially in the America's and Europe, there are

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<v Speaker 1>taller people now. Now. For a long time, historians have

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<v Speaker 1>used recorded height actually as an indicator of the living

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<v Speaker 1>standard in both our health and our income. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is basically because there's not a whole lot of other

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<v Speaker 1>data available when they're looking at old records. Right, It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like we would have like socio economic records of

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's name written down, but a lot of times they

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<v Speaker 1>do record their height and their weight. Uh. And so

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<v Speaker 1>this general assumption about people earning more money and then

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<v Speaker 1>that being connected to health, that's one of the big

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<v Speaker 1>questions here for us today. I think, I mean maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>so there was this instance in China, there's a study

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<v Speaker 1>found that height does increase as health and survival do

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<v Speaker 1>in the twentieth century, so we're seeing that reflected in

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<v Speaker 1>China now the same way we saw it in America

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<v Speaker 1>and in Europe. This seems to support the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>adult height is like quote, a crystal ball that reflects

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<v Speaker 1>early life conditions such as nutrition and disease. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there's something to that, But basically, the way we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna look at it today is like, what are the

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<v Speaker 1>meta studies on this, right, Like, has anybody bothered to

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<v Speaker 1>take a wide lens look at all of these and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of figure out, like, so, what's the truth here

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<v Speaker 1>or not? And then we're gonna zoom in on the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that are detailed that are specifically about like organs

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<v Speaker 1>such as like your heart or your lungs or your brain,

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<v Speaker 1>and like whether or not those are affected by your height. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because we you know, you get into the specifics of

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<v Speaker 1>all of this and you look at like, okay, who

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<v Speaker 1>tends to live the longest and it's a based on

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<v Speaker 1>the information I was looking at, yes, you, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it's Japanese women, and like the longest in the Japanese women,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do not have a reputation as being just towering

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<v Speaker 1>physical giants. So a lot of this, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>deal with the generalities when you break it down, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>can name a short person who live for a long

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<v Speaker 1>time or a short short person who died early. The

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<v Speaker 1>same with with tall people, and nobody's coming up to

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<v Speaker 1>a tall person a short person on the street and saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>why did they not feed you when you were a child,

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<v Speaker 1>and you you will live forever. When you get into,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the extremes, When you get into conditions that

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<v Speaker 1>cause an individual to be um you know, extremely a

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<v Speaker 1>small in stature, or you know they're suffering from some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a gigantism scenario, then everything is going to

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<v Speaker 1>potentially be more out of line. But when we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>with sort of the standard realm of human heights, that's

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<v Speaker 1>where it gets really interesting and and difficult to to

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<v Speaker 1>pull apart. So let's look at this first theory, which

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<v Speaker 1>is just the general idea that short people live longer

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<v Speaker 1>than the tall people. Now we'll go to that example

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<v Speaker 1>that Robert just mentioned. According to the World Health Organization,

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese women have the longest average lifespan in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>They live to be, on average, eighty six years old.

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<v Speaker 1>The average height of a Japanese woman between the ages

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<v Speaker 1>of seventy and eighty is a hundred and forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>point five four centimeters or about four point nine feet tall,

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<v Speaker 1>So you and I would be towering over these people,

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<v Speaker 1>would be easily a foot or more over them. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but they live longer. So for comparison, the average US

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<v Speaker 1>man like Robert and myself, lives to be about seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five And in two thousand and twelve, a study found

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<v Speaker 1>that shorter men in the US do actually live longer

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<v Speaker 1>than taller men. So that's one in my column. Although

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know if I qualify as shorter.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm shorter than you, but I don't know if I'm shorter.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're gonna find this when we look at these

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<v Speaker 1>studies that the measurements are all over the place in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of like what height they used to measure as

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<v Speaker 1>tall and above, and what height they use as short

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<v Speaker 1>and lower. But here's the thing. There really isn't a

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<v Speaker 1>proven direct relationship between height and life expectancy. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>this idea out there that's connected to the short people

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<v Speaker 1>live longer theory called the Methuselah gene uh. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is named after Noah's grandfather in the Bible, he was

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<v Speaker 1>the oldest man that was listed in the Bible, and

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<v Speaker 1>he lived to age nine hundred and sixty nine. So

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<v Speaker 1>apparently none of us get to a thousand, even in

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible. Now, this Methuselah gene seems to be connected

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<v Speaker 1>to the idea that short people live longer, and basically

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<v Speaker 1>it's a rare genetic mutation that decreases the body's cellular

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<v Speaker 1>use of a particular kind of growth hormone, and those

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<v Speaker 1>who have it tend to be smaller and live longer.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are all kinds of factors that could be

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<v Speaker 1>involved here, right, that aren't just this gene. There could

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<v Speaker 1>be lifestyle factors, birth weight, early childhood, care, nutrition, vaccinations, antibiotics, diet,

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<v Speaker 1>and income level. All of these things are important. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's weird that we keep looking to height, and it

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be that we're doing that because of that

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<v Speaker 1>historical precedent, right, just like the basic idea that well,

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<v Speaker 1>height is connected to wealth, and subsequently wealth is connected

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<v Speaker 1>to a good nutritious environment, therefore those people will live

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<v Speaker 1>long access to healthcare as well, Yeah, exactly. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>evolutionary biologist Dr Armand Leroy discovered the hormone that controls

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<v Speaker 1>our height, which is called insulin like growth factor or

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to just refer to it as i g

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<v Speaker 1>F here, and that it controls our height, but it

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<v Speaker 1>also controls our aging and so if you have a

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<v Speaker 1>low level of i g F, this means you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a longer life expectancy, right. Well, in animals

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<v Speaker 1>this seems to be true. For instance, smaller dogs live

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<v Speaker 1>longer than bigger dogs. This is this is an example

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<v Speaker 1>I thought of as being something that even if we're

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<v Speaker 1>not like directly analyzing it, it's in the background, Like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of us tend to know that you have

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<v Speaker 1>this giant dog, it might not live as long as

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<v Speaker 1>this smaller scrappy mutt. Yeah exactly. Like I have friends

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<v Speaker 1>who have like the like tea CuPy Yorkies, like tiny

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<v Speaker 1>little dogs, and they live a long time, and then

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<v Speaker 1>like I guess, I mean, I don't remember what the

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<v Speaker 1>averages are, but like a big dog, I think isn't

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<v Speaker 1>expected to live longer than like a decade, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I've known people who have had the like

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<v Speaker 1>Great Danes, yeah yeah, and I think I think they

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<v Speaker 1>have all all the Great Danes have passed. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's too bad. But here's the other thing. There's another

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<v Speaker 1>animal that we can look to for this mice. And

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<v Speaker 1>I never even thought about this, but apparently dwarf mice

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<v Speaker 1>lives seventy five percent longer than other mice. So if

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<v Speaker 1>we pull that out and we look at humans, right,

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of the I g F connected to our

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<v Speaker 1>height and our agings seems to come out to be

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<v Speaker 1>about for every extra inch of height, it shortens your

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<v Speaker 1>life expectancy by an average of one point two years.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're six two and I'm five ten, then

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<v Speaker 1>we got what three four inches between us, depending on

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<v Speaker 1>how we're rounding or what kind of hats were wearing.

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<v Speaker 1>So according to this, I'm gonna live four point eight

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<v Speaker 1>years longer than you, maybe if I don't get hit

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<v Speaker 1>by a bus on my way out of here. Um So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's kind of part of it, right, It's

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<v Speaker 1>like you can't really I mean, that's obviously getting hit

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<v Speaker 1>by a bus can't be factored into your your health expectancies.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's kind of it's not factoring and all those

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<v Speaker 1>other things like your lifestyle or your diet or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>or nutrition. So I'm not entirely convinced that height is

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<v Speaker 1>a reliable predictor of health. And actually there was a

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<v Speaker 1>meta study that was published on this. There's a paper

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<v Speaker 1>by Angus Deaton that was published in two thousand six

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<v Speaker 1>in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences here

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States of America, and it indicates that

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<v Speaker 1>in developing countries there's an inconsistent relationship between height, health

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<v Speaker 1>and income. And he looked at developing countries specifically because

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<v Speaker 1>of the assumption that it's always been a money connected

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<v Speaker 1>to nutrition and health care factor. Now, his argument, after

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<v Speaker 1>looking at all these studies together is that basically heights

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<v Speaker 1>an unreliable predictor. For example, he asks why when he

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<v Speaker 1>looked at all of the measurements, were African people so

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<v Speaker 1>tall when they traditionally have a lower income and are

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<v Speaker 1>exposed to more disease. Right, So that seems the reverse

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<v Speaker 1>of what we we assume to be true about heightened health.

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<v Speaker 1>In the abstract for his paper, Deeton actually says taller

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<v Speaker 1>people earn more on average, and they do better on

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<v Speaker 1>cognitive tests and live longer. So that again, so we

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<v Speaker 1>were getting different reports here, right that his his research

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<v Speaker 1>the literary review that he went through for his paper

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<v Speaker 1>was basically that tall people live longer, even though we've

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<v Speaker 1>got all these other studies that say there's a methuselah

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<v Speaker 1>gene and short people live longer. So Deaton says that

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<v Speaker 1>as a consequence of possible disease and a lack of

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<v Speaker 1>nutrition earlier in life. The idea is that short people

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<v Speaker 1>are more prone to chronic disease late in life, and

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<v Speaker 1>therefore they're more likely to die earlier. But even the

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<v Speaker 1>increase in heights in Europe and North America are regarded

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<v Speaker 1>as not being driven by genetics, and this is specifically

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<v Speaker 1>here in Deeton's paper, but he says it's more about

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<v Speaker 1>changes in disease and nutritional environments. So all right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>back up here. Now we've got we've basically got two

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<v Speaker 1>competing meta theories. Right, We've got the one that says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>heights totally an unreliable predictor. H here's some data that

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<v Speaker 1>says people who are tall live longer. And then we've

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<v Speaker 1>got other studies that say, well, no, shorter people live

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<v Speaker 1>longer and there might be this methuslagen. Uh So what

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<v Speaker 1>we did was we basically pulled a bunch of studies

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<v Speaker 1>for this episode based on health and mental factors, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna kind of go through them and cally up

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<v Speaker 1>as we go along and see which one of us

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<v Speaker 1>is going to live longer, Robert or me? Okay, the

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<v Speaker 1>great contest here. Okay, So let's take a quick break,

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<v Speaker 1>and when we come back, we're gonna start off with cancer. Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. We're talking about human height, short people, tall people,

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<v Speaker 1>shorter people or taller people. I guess you would say,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, just the general question, does one of the

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<v Speaker 1>other have a leg up on living longer? Yeah? So,

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately we don't have any studies into leg health related

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<v Speaker 1>to to height. Um, that seems like it would be

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<v Speaker 1>one of the first ones they'd go to, but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see any cross my radar. Uh. We do, however,

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot on cancer now out There has been

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<v Speaker 1>a link scene between breast cancer and women and height

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<v Speaker 1>that's been proposed as early as nineteen. So we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about melanoma, thyroid, kidney, breast, colon, and rectum cancers all

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<v Speaker 1>being strongly associated with height, and studies have found that

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<v Speaker 1>women who are five ten or more are likely to

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<v Speaker 1>develop these types of cancers. Than women who are five

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<v Speaker 1>two or lower. So again, like as I said earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>each one of these studies uses a different metric for

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<v Speaker 1>what tall and short is, and this one apparently it's

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<v Speaker 1>five ten and five to uh. The explanation basically is

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<v Speaker 1>that tall women tend to have larger organs and subsequently

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<v Speaker 1>more cells, so their chance of developing a mutation that

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<v Speaker 1>leads to cancer is greater, and that this could ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>be their hormones influencing their risk of cancer. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>basically the idea is they have more dice to roll,

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<v Speaker 1>and therefore there's a greater chance they're gonna they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>roll to one on one of those dis Yeah, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. I don't know if that lines up

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<v Speaker 1>with like my the math that I remember for like

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<v Speaker 1>the g R E. But but well, let's go on.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see if they've got some more stuff here. One

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<v Speaker 1>study of this used data from the Women's Health Initiative,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the study that was it took like a

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<v Speaker 1>broad look at women's health between at forty different clinics

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<v Speaker 1>across the United States, and even when they introduced controlling

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<v Speaker 1>factors like body weight b m I and socio economic status.

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<v Speaker 1>They found that there was a significant relationship between height

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<v Speaker 1>and cancer at any site in the body. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>for them, they said that for every additional ten centimeters

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<v Speaker 1>or three point nine four inches of height that a

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<v Speaker 1>woman had, she was one point one three times more

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<v Speaker 1>likely to have cancer, basically be at risk for cancer overall,

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't narrowing in on any of these specific cancers. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>Swedish academics just last year back this up with a

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<v Speaker 1>study that found that the taller you are, the more

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<v Speaker 1>likely you are to develop cancer. So for men, they

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<v Speaker 1>included men here, so it wasn't just you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at two different genders. Here the risk increases eleven

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<v Speaker 1>percent for every extra ten centimeters of height, while for

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<v Speaker 1>a woman it was actually eighteen percent for every ten

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<v Speaker 1>centimeters of height. So okay, so if we look at

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<v Speaker 1>these and it's two separate studies, I'd say, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, it seems that we have to tally

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<v Speaker 1>up that cancer is more likely and taller people, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're more likely to get cancer than I am. But

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<v Speaker 1>then again we're dealing with a general indicator here very much,

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<v Speaker 1>and there of course a number of other indicators for

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<v Speaker 1>for the risk of developing cancer. Yeah, like whether like

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<v Speaker 1>if I live next door to Chernobyl, right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>small shorter person smoking, taller person smoking, etcetera. So all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's look at blood clots next. And the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>those are important is because they can potentially lead to strokes.

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<v Speaker 1>So another study found that if you're five ft two

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<v Speaker 1>or under in your weight. Now remember in most of

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<v Speaker 1>these your weight has to be close to normal for

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<v Speaker 1>your height, Like you can't be either super skinny or

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<v Speaker 1>morbidly obese and have that height that that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>throw the calculations off. But if you're a normal weight

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<v Speaker 1>and you're five to your three times less likely to

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<v Speaker 1>get a blood clot. And this is because blood must

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<v Speaker 1>be pumped a longer distance in taller people, which may

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<v Speaker 1>lead to reduce flow and an increased risk for a

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<v Speaker 1>stroke causing clot. Okay, well that makes sense. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>basically it's just business essentially. Yeah. Um, Now, while height

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<v Speaker 1>is associated with blood clots, a two thousand to study

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<v Speaker 1>looked at ten thousand Israeli civil servants and it found

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<v Speaker 1>that height was associated overall with stroke risk, not just

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<v Speaker 1>the blood clots, but just stroke risk overall. Being taller

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<v Speaker 1>was not good a Scandinavian study. The Scandinavians seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be looking into this a lot, probably because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we assume that they're taller than us. But they found

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<v Speaker 1>that taller people are two point five times more likely

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<v Speaker 1>to develop venus thrombo embolism, which this collectively covers both

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<v Speaker 1>deep van thrombosis and pulmonary embolisms. Now, in this study,

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<v Speaker 1>men over five eight were two point five seven times

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<v Speaker 1>more likely to develop recurrent blood clots. If they were

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<v Speaker 1>also over rate, that rose even more up to five

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<v Speaker 1>point to eight times. So okay, So again, looks like

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<v Speaker 1>we've got to put tall people on on the list

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<v Speaker 1>as being more likely to get blood clots and strokes.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like, okay, man, this isn't looking good for you, buddy. Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>what about your heart? How's your heart feeling? Pretty good?

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty good? I have heart problems, not like major stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I had a mitro valve prolapse when I

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid, and it's like a thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>have to get checked up on four occasionally. Just means

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the valves flaps differently than than the

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<v Speaker 1>other three valves. But um, I don't know. Let's see,

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<v Speaker 1>let's roll the dice. All right, Tall people are less

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<v Speaker 1>likely to develop heart disease, all right. There, For every

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<v Speaker 1>two point five inches taller you are than someone else

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<v Speaker 1>of your same gender, your risk of heart disease actually

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<v Speaker 1>diminishes by four. So in the study that looked at this,

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<v Speaker 1>researchers actually measured the association between DNA variants and height

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<v Speaker 1>as well, so they weren't just like measuring people and

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<v Speaker 1>then looking at their medical histories. They're actually looking at

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<v Speaker 1>their DNA And what they found was that the association

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<v Speaker 1>between heart problems and height was actually small. But then

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<v Speaker 1>they combined it with the overall associations that they had

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<v Speaker 1>from other data, and they still found that genetically determined

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<v Speaker 1>height was at risk of coronary heart disease. So before this,

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<v Speaker 1>observational studies had basically suggested that there was a link

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<v Speaker 1>between shorter height and coronary heart disease. So this one's

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<v Speaker 1>a little confusing to me. I don't know, Maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>plays out in the end like it's kind of an equalizer.

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<v Speaker 1>But we got another study here that says a review

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<v Speaker 1>of fifty two separate studies, So this is one of

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<v Speaker 1>those meta studies, it found that of more than three

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<v Speaker 1>million people, the shorter ones had a fifty percent higher

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<v Speaker 1>risk of deadly heart disease than tall ones. And additionally,

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<v Speaker 1>the genes associated with being short also increases the risk

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<v Speaker 1>of having high L d L cholesterol levels. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't looking good for short people in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>heart stuff. And one more study related to this said

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<v Speaker 1>men who were taller than six one, so that's you,

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<v Speaker 1>had a thirty five percent lower risk of having a

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<v Speaker 1>heart attack than men who were shorter than five seven

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<v Speaker 1>And every inch a man gains subsequently results in a

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<v Speaker 1>two to three percent decrease in heart attack risk. That's interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>but there, as far as I could tell, there was

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<v Speaker 1>no like speculation as to why. Now this is another

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<v Speaker 1>one of those instances where I have to have to

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<v Speaker 1>to say that I feel like I have a warped

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<v Speaker 1>sense of percentages and and likelihood. You know, if scenarios

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<v Speaker 1>taking place based on rolling dice in D n D

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<v Speaker 1>and playing x com you have like a hit on

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<v Speaker 1>an alien and and you end up missing or even

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<v Speaker 1>like um like stuff like that, I feel like has

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<v Speaker 1>kind of warped my understanding of percentile. Well, what if

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<v Speaker 1>like in the in that situation, right, I mean, people

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<v Speaker 1>statisticians out there are going to be screaming at us.

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<v Speaker 1>But but in that situation, if you're playing the game

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<v Speaker 1>and the alien is at a high enough level that

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<v Speaker 1>even your cent isn't enough to allow you to hit it,

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<v Speaker 1>then subsequently, I mean, so if you apply this to hell,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's like if you have something like I put,

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<v Speaker 1>extremely dangerous form of coronary heart disease. Right, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what your stats are, no matter how tall you are,

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<v Speaker 1>you're still going to roll with like a negative two.

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<v Speaker 1>This always reminds me of a quote from The Naked

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<v Speaker 1>Gun Leslie Nelson uh Flick. I'd like to think of

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<v Speaker 1>it as an O. J. Simpson movie. Okay, well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>about the the O. J. Simpson character Nordburg, where where

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<v Speaker 1>this character says, doctors say that Nordberg has a fifty

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<v Speaker 1>fifty chance of living, though there's only chance of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like the percentage upon percentage and ultimately making

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<v Speaker 1>it just completely nonsensical. Yeah, And I mean, like, no

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<v Speaker 1>disrespect to the people who are conducting these studies, but

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<v Speaker 1>when you see them all lumped together like we're doing here,

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of feels like that. It feels like, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>like the heights are all over the place, the percentages

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<v Speaker 1>are there's a lot of shifting around here. And what

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing here today is clearly not academic in any

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<v Speaker 1>sense of the term. You know, we're not using any

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<v Speaker 1>like statistical models to try to put all these together.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just basically using fast and loose D and D rules. Right, yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're we're not trying to make an actual um argument

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, a tall person or shorter shorter persons

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<v Speaker 1>of chances of of survival, but ready providing an overview

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<v Speaker 1>of what some of the studies we're saying. But so far,

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<v Speaker 1>let's recap. So, Robert's more likely to get cancer taller people.

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<v Speaker 1>Taller people are more likely to have strokes and clots.

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<v Speaker 1>Shorter people are more likely to have heart disease. What

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<v Speaker 1>about your lungs? Now, this was the study that got

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<v Speaker 1>us on this track. So, according to a twenty fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>study that was presented at the American Thoracic Society International Conference,

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<v Speaker 1>lung transplant candidates who are about five three or shorter

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<v Speaker 1>have to actually wait a longer time for their transplants

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<v Speaker 1>than taller candidates, and they're more likely to die within

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<v Speaker 1>a year of waiting for such trans plants. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting. I have to assume that it's because of

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<v Speaker 1>size availability. Yeah, I mean it. This reminds us of

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 1>something that came up in our Cyborg one of our

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:14.679
<v Speaker 1>Cyborg episodes, just talking about the size of artificial hearts,

0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I believe, and how initially they did not have like

0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>they were sized for adult men, and therefore if someone

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 1>was like a smaller female or individual, just like someone

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 1>smaller than what was the ideal male size, they wouldn't fit. Yeah,

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 1>so I imagine it lines up with that. Uh. Yeah.

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:34.679
<v Speaker 1>So they basically found that shorter adults are more likely

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 1>to be placed on mechanical ventilation and the median height

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:41.680
<v Speaker 1>that they used was a hundred and seventies centimeters or

0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:45.199
<v Speaker 1>about five point six feet. They used a median b

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:49.520
<v Speaker 1>m I of twenty five point four, which I don't

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:51.199
<v Speaker 1>really know the b m I is very well, but

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I looked it up on a chart and that actually

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>qualifies as overweight. Uh. Most of their participants were white

0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:00.639
<v Speaker 1>and male. That's important to remember as well too. So

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:05.440
<v Speaker 1>all right, lungs sounds like shorter people are worse off brains.

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:07.960
<v Speaker 1>What about your brains? This is a big one because

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, if everything else is working, that's great,

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 1>but if the brain is not functioning properly as well, then, uh,

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what's the point, right, Well, it turns out

0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:20.200
<v Speaker 1>that women who are five seven or taller are fifty

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:24.719
<v Speaker 1>percent less likely to die from dementia than women who

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:28.440
<v Speaker 1>are five one or shorter, and this has been attributed

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 1>to factors that contribute to smaller stature again, childhood illness, stress,

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:37.360
<v Speaker 1>and poor nutrition. So what I'm getting out of this

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 1>is like, height isn't necessarily all that important, but like,

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 1>if you're a parent, it's pretty important that you make

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 1>sure your kids eating well and if they're sick, you're

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:50.640
<v Speaker 1>taking care of them. Right. Um. Men, however, who are

0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 1>taller than five ten, they had a fifty nine percent

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 1>lower risk of developing Alzheimer's disease than men who are

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 1>shorter than five six. So okay, So what we're seeing

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 1>here is that dementia, especially Alzheimer's disease, seems to be

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>more likely to show up in shorter people. So that's

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 1>me again, So I'm more likely to lose my mind

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:20.119
<v Speaker 1>than you are. Which sounds about right. I mean, just

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>based on our daily you know, interactions, and and how

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 1>how with it? I am already at age forty. Well,

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 1>I feel like on this show, especially, madness is always

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:31.919
<v Speaker 1>a risk. This is very true, and we knew what

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>we were getting into when we signed up for it.

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:38.640
<v Speaker 1>What about diabetes, This one didn't even cross my mind. Yeah,

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 1>but of course this is a big one. This is

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.200
<v Speaker 1>one of This is one of the big killers today.

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:46.160
<v Speaker 1>This is a primary health concern. So type two diabetes,

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 1>most of us know, is linked to weight, but they

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 1>think that type one may actually be linked to height.

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 1>And the cause of type one is still unknown, but

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 1>it's thought to be related to an autoimmune attack on

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:02.359
<v Speaker 1>the insulin producing cell of our pancreas. Now, a two

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 1>thousand to study that was published in the Journal of

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Pediatrics found that taller children generally experience an increased risk

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>for the development of type one diabetes, except during infancy

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:21.200
<v Speaker 1>or early adolescence. But then there's been other studies that

0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:24.680
<v Speaker 1>contradict this. Right, So, uh, there's another one that suggests

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 1>that children with diabetes are either all similar in height

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>or shorter than their non diabetic peers. So this one

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 1>seems to balance out, and that like, the studies don't

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>seem to uh come to a conclusion one way or

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the other. So I think we can just like, we

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 1>can file this under null for now. I don't know

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 1>necessarily that you're more likely to get Type one diabetes

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 1>than I am, just based on height. Now, there's two

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>smaller ones here that I added at the end. The

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 1>first is about reproduction women who are taller, and again

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>totally like, I don't know why they picked these numbers,

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>but they chose five six for women who are taller.

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Those women are less likely to develop gestational diabetes than

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>those who are shorter at five two or shorter. This

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 1>is speculated to be because the genes that are related

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>to height have an effect on their glue close tolerance.

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Also a study in Thailand, which I don't know why.

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I look my parents lived in Thailand for a while,

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 1>but anytime I hear a study in Thailand, I'm immediately like,

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. A study in Thailand found that being

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 1>five one or taller reduces your risk of having to

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 1>have a C section. That seems to make sense to me. Well,

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>this one is interesting in terms of of what a

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:46.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of the data said about about c sections over

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 1>the years, and they're they're those who argue that a

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of times, I mean, c section is a is

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>a topic onto itself that we could we could easily

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>devote a whole episode two. But there are those who

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>make the charge that the decision to go the C

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>section is is times related to the culture of the hospital,

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 1>the cultural the culture of the medical profession. So I

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 1>can't help but wonder, like, when this comes up to

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:13.480
<v Speaker 1>to what extent would this translate into an American hospital scenario,

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>say a Chinese hospital scenario, into uh, you know, areas

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>where there's more traditional child birth outside of a hospital,

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:25.719
<v Speaker 1>et cetera. Huh, yeah, that's interesting. But I guess like,

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>if we take the two of these and we taly

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 1>them up, we can essentially say shorter people, by this metric,

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 1>are more likely to have reproductive problems. So I'm more

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 1>likely to have reproductive problems than you are, although neither

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 1>of us are women. But hey, you know, I could

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>play out in other male reproductive type problems. Last one,

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 1>this one makes total sense once I read it heat exhaustion.

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 1>So apparently the larger a person is, the more their

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 1>body has the ability to get hot because the surface

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>of their skin dissipates heat at a slower rate. Okay, yeah,

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:04.959
<v Speaker 1>this is This is actually something that comes up in

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>the episode of the Joe and I did about human size,

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>because we get into the idea of like giant humans

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 1>and some of the problems with with heat that occur

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>when you start just proportionally building up a you know,

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 1>an organism spody. Yeah, you know this. I can't remember

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 1>when we did our episode on the science of ant man.

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that came up, but that would be

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 1>an interesting thing to think about, Like when he's super tiny,

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 1>how much heat is he dissipating, versus when he blows

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 1>up to super big and he picks up an airplane

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:37.719
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. So the idea here then is that larger

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 1>people are going to dissipate heat at a slower rate,

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 1>so they're more likely to get heat exhaustion, where shorter

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>people are able to lose heat more readily, so they're

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 1>less likely to get heat exhaustion. I've never thought about

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>that before, but I guess that's another one in my column.

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 1>So you are more likely to get exhausted in the

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>heat than I am. Like if you and I crash

0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>landed in the desert somewhere and there's no water and

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 1>we were just walking for days. You're going to be

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the one to drop before I'm gonna depend on you

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 1>to rebuild our airplane and fly us out of the

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 1>desert flight of the Phoenix stuff and totally do that.

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>All right, This is basically our rundown. This is our

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 1>rundown of physical stuff. Though, why don't we take a

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 1>break when we come back, We're gonna get into personality

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 1>and mental attributes. Thank alright, we're back. So, yeah, we

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 1>we've looked at some of the basic health studies out

0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>there about the human height and where it where, where

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 1>it falls on the healthy less healthy scenario, your likelihood

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 1>for various diseases and whatnot. But yeah, what about human

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>height and personality and psychology. So height is a primal

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 1>survival signifier. It addresses physical strength, reach, health, and good nutrition.

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 1>And for this reason, it's not surprising the humans have

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>some natural tendencies when it comes to our our psychological

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.959
<v Speaker 1>relates ship with human height. But this is this is

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 1>one of the problems too, because it's very well, we

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 1>don't want to reduce our her views of other humans

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>and our own like social scenarios to just oh, who's

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 1>the biggest person in this room all right there in

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 1>charge because they're the tallest, like like obviously, while those

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>factors might influence us, you know in the sort of

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>sort of in the background at the the rat like

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 1>high brain level, um, there's a lot more going on

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 1>with human personalities, uh, with with with just how we

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 1>interact with people. Sometimes the largest person in the room

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>need not be the person with the largest stature, you know,

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 1>it's sometimes just the person with the most personality or

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>the most you know, symmetrical features um, or the nicest

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 1>clothes that or you know, they have a reputation. There's

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 1>there's so much more going on with with how we

0:33:57.520 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>perceive other humans than just how tall are they. Yeah,

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 1>that's certainly true. Although I've definitely encountered in like my

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 1>business life. I guess that like the the stereotype of

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 1>like the tall guy assuming leadership or or assuming confidence

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 1>in a group. Yeah, I guess I haven't had a

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of not you. Yeah, I mean I have not

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 1>assumed leadership here um, and neither has has easy our

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 1>our our tech expert um. So I don't know, I

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know that it has to do with particular business

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>cultures or yeah, or maybe when you get an m

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:42.839
<v Speaker 1>b A they put you on a rack and they

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:45.320
<v Speaker 1>stretch you out, or is it one of these things

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>where a tall person gets promoted. It's kind of it's

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:52.760
<v Speaker 1>like an attractive person getting promoted saying, oh, well, clearly

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 1>it's because they're so handsome, or clearly it's because she's

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:58.799
<v Speaker 1>just really tall like you. There's a gut instinct to

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 1>reduce it to some thing that has nothing to do

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.239
<v Speaker 1>with marin rather than actually, yeah exactly, rather than like

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>analyze your own like strengths and weaknesses in terms of meritocracy. Yeah.

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 1>That being said, there have been times where I have, like,

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll have self doubt creeping in and I'll be like,

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 1>oh man, what if I've only gotten this foreign life

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:19.360
<v Speaker 1>just because I'm a little bit tall, and if and

0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 1>if I was just a little shorter, I would just

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I would have fallen into the gutter years ago. No,

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 1>that's not true. But still you end up thinking about

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 1>these things when you start crunching some of these uh

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 1>at times very general studies. Yeah, yeah, no, I can

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>understand that I have this experience where I go to

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 1>shows a lot, or at least I used to. I

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 1>don't go as much as I as I used to go,

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 1>but I would often find myself watching a band, and

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 1>then I would if I would get bored with the band,

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I would sort of pull out and pay more attention

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 1>to the audience and start thinking how tall am I

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 1>in comparison to everybody else in this room? And you know, like,

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:00.080
<v Speaker 1>what's the sort of average height of fans of this

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:03.720
<v Speaker 1>particular music or something like that, you know, and I'm

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>always somewhere in the middle. You know, they like five,

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 1>that's nothing special. Like in fact, when you looked at

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 1>h when we looked at these studies earlier, of like

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:17.280
<v Speaker 1>all the various organs, like that height was neither really

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 1>listed as being the tall height or the short height.

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 1>It was always somewhere in between. So maybe I'm just

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:27.880
<v Speaker 1>more likely to get everything. So speaking of getting things,

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 1>one of the classic tropes, right, is that the that

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:33.360
<v Speaker 1>the tall guy gets the girl, where the tall girl

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:36.480
<v Speaker 1>gets the guy or whatever your sort of heteronormative scenario

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 1>is kind of that whole. Uh, the cartoon scenario of

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:43.800
<v Speaker 1>the the nerd on the beach with the with the lady,

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:45.839
<v Speaker 1>and then here comes the big, tall, muscle bound dude

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 1>and you kick sand on him and ls off with

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 1>the gal flex Mentalo. Yeah, well there was there that

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I did find a study that that touches on This

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 1>two thousand sixteen University of Edinburgh study published in Genome Biology,

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.799
<v Speaker 1>and they conducted an analysis of the genotype of more

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:06.839
<v Speaker 1>than thirteen thousand human heterosexual couples, and they found that

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 1>genes that determine your height also influence your choice of

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:12.759
<v Speaker 1>mate by height. So, simply put, our genes can be

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 1>used to predict the height of our partner. Now there

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>are plenty of exceptions here, of course, and we can

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 1>all we all know couples where where you know one

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>significant other is uh is is tall, the other ones short. Um.

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 1>But this, this, this paper is making an argument that

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 1>we do tend to gravitate towards people who are similar

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 1>in their morphology. Okay, again from personal experience, this absolutely

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 1>aligns up with just like my subjective experience with other

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 1>people talking to them about who they're dating or why

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 1>they're dating. I know plenty of people who are tall

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 1>and say like, oh, there's no way that I could

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:52.319
<v Speaker 1>date her. It just wouldn't work out. Or I know

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:54.840
<v Speaker 1>tall women who have said the same thing, like like

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:57.400
<v Speaker 1>he's nice and all, but just like there's such a

0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:59.760
<v Speaker 1>disparity between the two of us. I just can't imagine

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 1>just physical height. Yeah, yeah, that's like like an immediate

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 1>like I imagine like, uh, you and I are totally

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 1>off the market in terms of this kind of thing.

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:11.439
<v Speaker 1>But when you use like Tinder or something like that,

0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:14.359
<v Speaker 1>like I assume height is part of the like statistics

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 1>that you have to report. So I hadn't even thought

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 1>of that, because certainly a head shot you're not gonna

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 1>be able to tell. Most photos you're probably not going

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 1>to tell. To be able to tell, we'll have to

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>ask somebody in the office who uses Tinder or grinder

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. But I would assume that it

0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 1>would have height and weight included in there. Well, this

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 1>is an area I'd love to hear from listeners on

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 1>two total experience with this, especially as it plays out

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:38.720
<v Speaker 1>in the modern you know, dating scenario. But some people

0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:41.880
<v Speaker 1>would be like whoa, that person's five to nope swipe,

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 1>or or oh that person is like only an inch

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 1>taller than me, or some people like to have somebody

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 1>who's taller than them but only a little taller than them.

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 1>Do you think they're taggling room? Do you think they're

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 1>like five tens a bit much? If you can bring

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 1>it down to five eight, then we'll give it a shot.

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Here's what I really think, And this is going to

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:01.880
<v Speaker 1>reveal a lot more about me and not about the study.

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:06.000
<v Speaker 1>But I have had lots of friends who have gotten

0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:09.480
<v Speaker 1>excited about the prospect of hooking up with somebody who's

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:13.360
<v Speaker 1>either significantly shorter than them or significantly taller than them,

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 1>but not having a relationship with that person. So the

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 1>idea of the experience is okay. But when they're actually

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 1>like searching around for a partner, they're more likely to

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 1>have this scenario of like, you know, figuring out the

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 1>sort of math of like how they're going to line

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:32.839
<v Speaker 1>up against one. So it's one thing to have this

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>fantasy in mind, but it's another thing to to have

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 1>to think, well, where, what where would we put things

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 1>on shelves and how would that work out? Yeah, now,

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:44.719
<v Speaker 1>earlier you touched on the income height scenario, and there

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 1>is a highly sited two thousand four study even the

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Journal of Applied Psychology by Timothy a judge and Daniel M. Cable,

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 1>and they did an investigation of the correlation between height

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 1>and success. So quote, the findings suggests that someone who

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 1>is six ft tall earns that average nearly sixty six

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:04.479
<v Speaker 1>thousand more during a thirty year career than someone who's

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.600
<v Speaker 1>five ft five inches, even when controlling for gender, age,

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 1>and weight. So that's an interesting observation. Uh, but again

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:16.760
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of problematic. I feel you start actually teasing

0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:20.359
<v Speaker 1>it apart. Uh, Is it really a situation where even

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 1>in the background of cognition, someone's thinking, oh, that's a

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 1>tall one. Make sure we give them a raise because

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 1>they can crush me with their giant hands. I don't

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 1>know if it's that so much as that going back

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Speaker 1>to that, uh, that idea that we sort of started

0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:35.760
<v Speaker 1>off the episode with, which is like, well, tall people

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 1>must come from at least middle class families because they

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:43.400
<v Speaker 1>were able to be raised with a nutritious environment and

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have disease to which got them to this

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:49.759
<v Speaker 1>point in life. Subsequently, they must have a history that's

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 1>led them to be responsible enough to get a promotion

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:55.800
<v Speaker 1>or something like. I guess it would be more likely

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 1>to be that, but even that seems absurd when I

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 1>think about it out loud. Yeah, speaking of things that

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:04.280
<v Speaker 1>sound a bit absurd. Uh. There's also a two thousand

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:08.280
<v Speaker 1>sixteen study out of Ohio State University that argues, based

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:11.879
<v Speaker 1>on British data, that the taller person is, the more

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 1>likely he or she is to support conservative political positions,

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 1>support a conservative party, and and actually vote for conservative politicians.

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:23.600
<v Speaker 1>They found that a one inch increase in high increased

0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:28.240
<v Speaker 1>support for the Conservative Party of Written by point six percent,

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:31.160
<v Speaker 1>and the likelihood of voting for the party by point five.

0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:35.400
<v Speaker 1>That one strikes me as very odd. I can't see

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 1>any correlation. Yeah, I wonder, well, this is British data.

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:44.399
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if the heighth factor has anything to do

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 1>with aristocracy and certain family lines. I guess. I mean

0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 1>you're getting back to that that idea that al right,

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 1>if someone is tall, that means they've had good nutrition,

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:57.879
<v Speaker 1>good good genetics, and access to healthcare. But that's not

0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:00.879
<v Speaker 1>always the case. And then and then it's not like

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 1>they're not like tall liberal academics and and and tall

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 1>pretty leaning. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Yeah, So this

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:14.240
<v Speaker 1>one is it's hard for me to to really break

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:16.799
<v Speaker 1>down and I feel like I end up thinking of

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 1>individuals in my life and all right, well, here's a

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 1>tall person, how did their politics line up with my

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 1>with my politics? Uh, this one feels weird. I'm having

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:29.919
<v Speaker 1>a hard time really breaking this one down in terms

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:34.000
<v Speaker 1>of just sort of interpersonal connections. Yeah. Yeah, that one,

0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We have we have more, yes, right? So? Yeah?

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 1>And the in fact, the next one is awesome from

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State two thousands sixteen study as well. They found

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 1>that tall people have built in advantage when it comes

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:50.279
<v Speaker 1>to spatial relations. Uh, and that visual superiority holds true

0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:53.239
<v Speaker 1>even when tall people sit down and their shorter counterparts

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 1>stand on a box restool like an apple box. Yeah. So,

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 1>and then this one, this one is published in Science Advances.

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah so, I guess I hadn't really thought about this one, because,

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 1>if anything, I would have guessed the taller people. Or

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe this is the problem with with perspective, Like I'm

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:15.080
<v Speaker 1>not good at sports or throwing things and making them

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 1>go where I want them to go, so I would

0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 1>have the tendency to fall into the trap of assuming

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 1>this is the universal experience, despite the fact that there's

0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:26.320
<v Speaker 1>plenty of evidence that you know, obviously we have plenty

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 1>of of of tall basketball players who are exceptional at

0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 1>throwing objects and making them go where they want them

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 1>to go. Yeah. Yeah, And I guess to like, the

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.920
<v Speaker 1>thing that I end up thinking about with this is

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 1>the thing that I end up thinking about with this is,

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 1>for instance, really tall people taller than you even like,

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:47.759
<v Speaker 1>for instance, my father in law is a pretty tall guy,

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 1>and so is my brother in law. Like, the idea

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:53.759
<v Speaker 1>of them having like a spatial advantage seems ludicrous to

0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:56.239
<v Speaker 1>me because like whenever they have to get into like

0:43:56.280 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 1>a sedan, it's like, you know, a complete hassle, like

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 1>their heads touching the roof the whole time, or they're

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>bending their neck or something like that. So I mean,

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:06.719
<v Speaker 1>I guess like it's a spatial advantage of terms of

0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 1>like do they need to get something down off of

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:11.760
<v Speaker 1>the top of a shelf or something, But like yeah,

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:15.839
<v Speaker 1>or or I have noticed this that I can Uh,

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:17.920
<v Speaker 1>there are parts of the house, like the top of

0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 1>the refrigerator. Um, I'm the only one who can see

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:23.280
<v Speaker 1>on the top of the refrigerator without standing on something.

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:25.440
<v Speaker 1>So I'm the only one who noticed that notices it

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:27.839
<v Speaker 1>notices that it needs dusting. Yeah, so that's like the

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 1>only example of the spatial advantage that I have, and

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:36.759
<v Speaker 1>it just ties into laziness concerning the dusting of the house. Sure, sure, yeah, yeah,

0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. That's strange to me because I a

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of the people I know who are very tall

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:45.840
<v Speaker 1>are do complain about like, well, either these chairs aren't

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:50.360
<v Speaker 1>exactly made from my body type, my morphology, you know, uh,

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:54.359
<v Speaker 1>or whatever else in the universe, you know. Um, I

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 1>imagine that there's just like a certain average height that

0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:01.279
<v Speaker 1>is shot for when you're like constructing I don't know,

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:04.239
<v Speaker 1>like a car and how how tall that goes, or

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 1>particular kinds of chairs or ladders, or or how tall

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:12.360
<v Speaker 1>refrigerators are. Yeah. So I'd love to hear tall, taller,

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:16.600
<v Speaker 1>and shorter people comment on their spatial relationships. Uh uh,

0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 1>you know when they ride into us. All right, So

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:21.319
<v Speaker 1>we have one more area to discuss here, and that

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 1>is the idea of a Napoleon complex. Uh, shortman syndrome.

0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:27.920
<v Speaker 1>You're you're familiar with this idea, I am. But you

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:30.360
<v Speaker 1>know what's funny is that whenever I refer to somebody

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:33.439
<v Speaker 1>as having a Napoleon complex, I'm never referring to their

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:37.000
<v Speaker 1>actual height. It's usually more about their personality, although I

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:40.400
<v Speaker 1>know that obviously the term came from the idea that

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Napoleon was short, right, Yeah, I mean that's that's the

0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 1>basic idea here, is that a shorter person is allegedly

0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>fueled by boastful, aggressive, and possessive motivations to make up

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:53.400
<v Speaker 1>their lack of physical stature. And and you're mentioning that

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:56.120
<v Speaker 1>your your use of it has often come down to

0:45:56.280 --> 0:45:59.319
<v Speaker 1>more of a like like they're they're boastful, and they're

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:03.719
<v Speaker 1>they're rested because there's some there's something some insecurity, and

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:06.400
<v Speaker 1>regardless of whether it's height or not, they've got the

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Napoleon complex that leads to these characteristics. Yeah, but I'm

0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:13.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've probably been using it wrong. Well, no, no,

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I I this is interesting because when we come to height,

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:18.560
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, we we use it in strange ways

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:20.640
<v Speaker 1>all the time. Like you talk of some you speak

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:23.839
<v Speaker 1>of someone like Einstein and and you know, you might

0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 1>describe him as a giant, Oh, he was a giant

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:30.000
<v Speaker 1>of his time, or talk talk about the sciences in general,

0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:34.080
<v Speaker 1>about proceeding on the backs of giants. So that's interesting,

0:46:34.120 --> 0:46:37.160
<v Speaker 1>and we end up applying sort of you know, figurative

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:41.160
<v Speaker 1>stature to to individuals just on the basis of, say,

0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:43.560
<v Speaker 1>their intellectual merit. So what I think I'm getting out

0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:47.920
<v Speaker 1>of this is that just like humanity in general, for centuries,

0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:52.880
<v Speaker 1>have gotten used to the idea of using height as

0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:59.319
<v Speaker 1>a barometer basically for personality and for health. But in

0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:02.000
<v Speaker 1>the last tree, we've really gotten to a point where

0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:07.839
<v Speaker 1>healthcare has revealed that it's not necessarily the factor. There's

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:10.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot else that's going into it. But at the

0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:13.720
<v Speaker 1>same time, like our language, our culture hasn't really caught

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:15.680
<v Speaker 1>up to that yet, right, Yeah, I think that's a

0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:18.319
<v Speaker 1>good read on what's going on here now In terms

0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:21.640
<v Speaker 1>of the the Napoleon complex itself. The term was coined

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:27.000
<v Speaker 1>by Austrian psychologist Alfred Adler in uh and it's it's

0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:31.280
<v Speaker 1>all ready to observe because by most accounts, Napoleon Bonaparte,

0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:34.120
<v Speaker 1>famed a French leader, was five six or five seven,

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:37.040
<v Speaker 1>perfectly normal height for the day, really a perfectly normal

0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:40.720
<v Speaker 1>height for to day. But is there any truth to

0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 1>to any of this? Is it all just a matter

0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:45.160
<v Speaker 1>of height? Is m Is it? Just like you said,

0:47:45.560 --> 0:47:48.080
<v Speaker 1>our our culture and language not quite catching up with

0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:52.080
<v Speaker 1>this new balance of of of height and health is there?

0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's is there? Is it just a stupid

0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:57.279
<v Speaker 1>label for which a short person is aggressive while if

0:47:57.280 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 1>a tall person is acting aggressive and it's just hey,

0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:01.879
<v Speaker 1>they're just that's perfectly natural. Of course they are either

0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:04.120
<v Speaker 1>tall and aggressive. And I have to say that I

0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:06.319
<v Speaker 1>never put much stock in it myself because it's it's

0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:09.279
<v Speaker 1>so cartoony. It it literally makes me think of like

0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:14.719
<v Speaker 1>a cartoon small dog yapping and jumping around. Yeah. So

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I looked into it, and there are a few studies

0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:20.239
<v Speaker 1>that that examine the Napoleon complex. Uh. There's a two

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:24.920
<v Speaker 1>thousand four study titled Personality Functioning the Influence of Stature,

0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:26.920
<v Speaker 1>and this is published in the Archives of Disease in

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Childhood and it used the Wessex Growth Study using forty

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:34.240
<v Speaker 1>eight short normal and sixty six control participants to tackle

0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 1>the question. And they found no significant effect of recruitment

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 1>height or final height on the Adult Personality Functioning Assessment

0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:46.879
<v Speaker 1>score or on any of the underlying domain scores. So

0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:49.920
<v Speaker 1>what they found is that socioeconomic status has the biggest

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:53.960
<v Speaker 1>effect on the total score, on employment, on education, on

0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:57.440
<v Speaker 1>coping domain scores as well. So quote no evidence was

0:48:57.480 --> 0:49:01.000
<v Speaker 1>found that stature per se significantly of factor the functioning

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:05.160
<v Speaker 1>off the participants in these areas as young adults. So, alright,

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:07.160
<v Speaker 1>something just popped in my head, which is another sort

0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:12.120
<v Speaker 1>of generalism that people make about Americans. I'd say, uh,

0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'm guilty of this as well, but the idea

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:20.279
<v Speaker 1>that most Americans are very uncomfortable talking about class, specifically

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:24.800
<v Speaker 1>socioeconomic status. Uh. And this is why, like, for instance,

0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:27.640
<v Speaker 1>you have studies that show that, like, people who are

0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:31.200
<v Speaker 1>metrically in the upper class think of themselves as being

0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:33.320
<v Speaker 1>in the middle class, and people who are metrically in

0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:35.279
<v Speaker 1>the lower class think of themselves as being in the

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:39.880
<v Speaker 1>middle class. Right, everybody wants to be in the middle class. Um.

0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Maybe this is subsequently, why we just keep going back

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:46.839
<v Speaker 1>to height, is because it's a lot easier to talk about, well,

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Robert's tall and Christians medium size, right, rather than saying, like, well,

0:49:53.120 --> 0:49:57.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, we have a clear like class delineation problem,

0:49:57.239 --> 0:49:59.759
<v Speaker 1>and the people who have the more money or mora

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<v Speaker 1>likely to be healthy. And that's you know, basic human

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<v Speaker 1>right that seems like it should extend to everybody, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm kind of curious how much that plays into

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<v Speaker 1>it like all this talk about height really seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be avoiding the socioeconomic factor that keeps coming back in

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<v Speaker 1>over and over and over again. Now there's a two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand seven study and this came from the University of

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<v Speaker 1>Central Lancashire, and this study actually found the reverse of

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<v Speaker 1>the Napoleon complex. The tall men were more likely to

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<v Speaker 1>lose their temper than short men. They explored this via

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<v Speaker 1>what they called the chopstick game. And this is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hilarious, in which men of different heights dueled with

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<v Speaker 1>wooden sticks, but one of the subjects deliberately provoked the

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<v Speaker 1>other by wrapping them across the knuckle. Okay, so and

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<v Speaker 1>in this scenario, like the knuckle rappers here, they have

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<v Speaker 1>been preconditioned to do this. They're saying, look, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have this scenario. We're gonna go in there and start

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<v Speaker 1>chop sticking around, but just whack the hell out of

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's knuckles. Um. And this was a very small study,

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<v Speaker 1>so it wasn't like a complete battle royale, but you

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<v Speaker 1>have ten men of average height and the same number

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<v Speaker 1>below five ft five uh. And they found that the

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<v Speaker 1>taller men were more likely to lose it over these Shenanigans. Quote,

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<v Speaker 1>the results were consistent with the view that small man

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<v Speaker 1>syndrome use a meth. That's fascinating. I mean, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>really small sample study and I'm assuming it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's only within that specific area too, But it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love the idea that's like such a farcical uh,

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<v Speaker 1>like like comedy waiting to happen. Like I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to watch like a video of the proceedings where it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like small men whacking tall men on the on

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<v Speaker 1>the knuckles with chopsticks of all things. Yeah, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like a strange indicator of like overall personality. To what

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<v Speaker 1>extent you were offended by, like someone essentially physically assaulting

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<v Speaker 1>here or going a little too far. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>would just start laughing. Yeah, but hey, I'm only five nine,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. And then final study here, this one came

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<v Speaker 1>from Professor Abraham Bunk of the University of Granigan in

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<v Speaker 1>Holland and here are you the opposite in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and eight, So the researchers question a hundred men and

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred women in relationships about their their levels of jealousy,

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<v Speaker 1>their feelings of jealousy, and how interested they believe their

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<v Speaker 1>partners to be in other members of the opposite sex.

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<v Speaker 1>And this seems to be zeroing in on like one

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of the supposed Napoleon complex, the idea that that

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:31.000
<v Speaker 1>shorter men are going to be more possessive and more jealous.

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<v Speaker 1>So they found that five ft four inch men scored

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<v Speaker 1>an average of three point seven five out of six

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<v Speaker 1>on a jealousy scale, while men around six six they

0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:44.680
<v Speaker 1>scored two point to five on the jealousy scale. Now

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the female results were more complex. So you have average

0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:52.840
<v Speaker 1>heighted women, they were scoring lowest out of everybody, getting

0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:55.360
<v Speaker 1>a three out of six on the jealousy scale. The

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<v Speaker 1>tallest though women at six ft they got a four

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<v Speaker 1>out of six. And the shortest women they scored the

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<v Speaker 1>best of all. They got, you know, a five feet tall,

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<v Speaker 1>they got five out of six. So the short women

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<v Speaker 1>were the least likely to be jealous. They were the

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<v Speaker 1>most confident of all of these participants. Yeah, man, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like the way to go is to be a

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<v Speaker 1>short woman when you look again, like back at the

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese women who live the longest there I think, if

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<v Speaker 1>I remember correctly from the data earlier in the episode

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<v Speaker 1>four nine on average, and then these ladies very confident. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. They said this was one of their

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<v Speaker 1>their core findings. Quote, short men were, as expected, most

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<v Speaker 1>jealous in the presence of powerful, tall, strong, and rich

0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:42.040
<v Speaker 1>potential rivals. So this is not a study to you know,

0:53:42.480 --> 0:53:46.160
<v Speaker 1>govern your behavior in life choices, but it it uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's interesting in that it it presents the one

0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:53.640
<v Speaker 1>study that I could find that argued in favor of

0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:59.520
<v Speaker 1>at least some level of of shortman syndrome or Napoleon complex. So, Okay,

0:53:59.680 --> 0:54:02.880
<v Speaker 1>we've looked at the mental attributes, We've looked at the

0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:06.880
<v Speaker 1>physical attributes, We've cracked all these numbers. We've thrown around

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<v Speaker 1>metrics of height, uh and death and rates of mortality.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what have we come to a conclusion on Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've come to the conclusion that, yes, in

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<v Speaker 1>certain scenarios, especially with health, you can point to high

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<v Speaker 1>as it as as an indicator, as a partial indicator

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<v Speaker 1>among many other indicators about what might happen with your body.

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<v Speaker 1>But on its own, I think I agree with that

0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:37.359
<v Speaker 1>study that we present at the top, that it's an

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<v Speaker 1>unreliable predictor. You can't just say well, because somebody is

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<v Speaker 1>this tall, they're less likely to do X, Y and Z,

0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:49.840
<v Speaker 1>or they're more likely to die from A B and C. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It just seems like what we should really be paying

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<v Speaker 1>attention to is nutrition, and socioeconomics does seem way more important. Yeah. Likewise,

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<v Speaker 1>with you with the psychological stuff, I really like what

0:55:01.280 --> 0:55:03.880
<v Speaker 1>you said earlier that it seems like it's largely this

0:55:03.960 --> 0:55:07.080
<v Speaker 1>idea that we do have some some primal instincts in

0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:11.760
<v Speaker 1>judging an individual by height. But those those those primal judgments,

0:55:11.800 --> 0:55:14.279
<v Speaker 1>even though they may pop up to varying degrees in

0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:18.959
<v Speaker 1>modern living. Uh, it's a far more complicated scenario now

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to all the additional layers of human culture. Ye. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that said, I have tallied up our results, and you

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<v Speaker 1>scored three and I scored four. So I am more

0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:37.440
<v Speaker 1>likely to die at a younger age than you are,

0:55:37.920 --> 0:55:44.800
<v Speaker 1>based on this very informal study that we've done here today. Uh. So, hey, guys,

0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll see I'll see you when I see you. Yeah, Well,

0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:49.520
<v Speaker 1>this means you have to do the follow up episode

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<v Speaker 1>after I die, after you die, yeah, which is about

0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:55.799
<v Speaker 1>how it was an unreliable predictor No, no no, no, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna die first, right, No, I'm gonna I've got

0:55:59.280 --> 0:56:02.239
<v Speaker 1>to do the podcast. You It'll be you and your

0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:04.480
<v Speaker 1>new co host will be seven feet tall. Yeah, well

0:56:04.480 --> 0:56:07.400
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a robot son telling Yeah, exactly a

0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:09.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of people don't know this, but Carney is very tall.

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<v Speaker 1>They usually imagine it was like a short robot with

0:56:12.560 --> 0:56:14.759
<v Speaker 1>like a mailbox for ahead, but he's he's massive. We

0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:17.400
<v Speaker 1>haven't really reached up there. He's like the robot on

0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:20.200
<v Speaker 1>that that Queen album cover that's crushing the band members

0:56:20.239 --> 0:56:25.000
<v Speaker 1>in their hands. He's imposing. Yeah. Okay, Well, if this

0:56:25.120 --> 0:56:28.240
<v Speaker 1>was interesting to you and you're thinking, well, wait a minute,

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm a tall person or I'm a short person. This

0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:33.120
<v Speaker 1>doesn't line up with what I thought I knew about myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us your experience, you know, i'd like to know,

0:56:36.400 --> 0:56:38.960
<v Speaker 1>have you experienced a Napoleon complex? Do you know about

0:56:39.000 --> 0:56:43.360
<v Speaker 1>any specific physical ailments that you feel like are you're

0:56:43.400 --> 0:56:46.680
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