1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: You really like them and you'd really like to have one. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: That's okay if it's like a bike, but not if 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: it's female body parts. It's one more thing, what one. 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: Katie made the same face as me. This sounds disgusting. 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: You really like them and you'd really like to have one. 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: Is this a Jeff Dahmer sort of thing? No, Jack, 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: it's a transgender thing. What we used to call sex 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: changes back in the day when people spoke plainly, specifically 9 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: the idea of auto gaynophilia, which I've that's when I'm oh, boy, 10 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: this will be distant, folks. I can just tell the 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: look in his eyes. 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 2: Here we go, touching myself with a tie tight around 13 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: my neck. Is that what that is? I'm kind of 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: hanging myself from the closet. 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: No, that's something very very different. That would be automous. Yeah. Anyway, So, yeah, 16 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: I'd read about this, but I got to admit I 17 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: had never dug into it very deeply. And we got 18 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: this fabulous email with a bunch of documentation from Alien Anonymous, 19 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: interesting theories on what's actually driving the boys to think 20 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: they need sex changes, the whole social contagion of girls 21 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: who are terrified by puberty and disgusting hardcore porn and 22 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: the rest of it just being afraid of womanhood and 23 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: wanting to become dudes. That's one phenomenon, but the boy 24 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: to girl transition is another thing. 25 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: I don't have any I don't have any sense of 26 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: how many like thirteen year old girl see porn internet porn. 27 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: But if you did, you could, I could easily see 28 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 2: how you'd come to the conclusion. I want no part 29 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: of that. 30 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, absolutely true. Yeah, agreed. So this feels very 31 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: correct to me. Well, the girls are driven by social contagion, 32 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: the boys are not. They have a kink called auto 33 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: gynophilia in a lot of cases. I see this in 34 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: my sixteen year old. You don't know how to get 35 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 1: through to him that he doesn't actually have a woman's brain, 36 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: and operations won't fix him. Quote. So if you read through, 37 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: please don't demonize confused boys. Not all of them are 38 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: trying to knock down women's sports or overturn the system. 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: Many just don't understand what they're going through and they're 40 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: getting very bad advice from the internet. So this is 41 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: from an article from Substack entitled my AGP normalization Agenda. 42 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: If you're reading this, you know AGP auto gainophilia is 43 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: not a manifestation of girl brain that will drive the 44 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: host to suicide if not indulged. But it's also not 45 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: a dangerous perversion that leads to sexual abuse if ever 46 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: fully acknowledged, at least not in anyone with self control. 47 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: And it's not a cabal of sex perverts laughing as 48 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: they force governments to bend to their fetish of abusing 49 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: and erasing women. As long as these competing myths doke 50 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: it out, the house card stands ba ba ba, and 51 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 1: gender ideology continues to dominate and recruit anyone and everyone 52 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: vulnerable to it. But the truth is so much simpler. 53 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: It's an inconvenient self referential sexuality. It's essentially heterosexuality backfiring, 54 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: and it does not have to be enabled or glorified, 55 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: or feared or vilified. It's a fairly rare but well 56 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: known and identified sexual developmental kink that some males develop. 57 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: This is from what's going on with the boys. There 58 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: are males who are sexually and romantically drawn to the 59 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: idea of themselves as women. It is essentially inverted heterosexuality. 60 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: In the past, these men typically transitioned in middle age, 61 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: seemingly in accordance with the midlife crisis stage of life. 62 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: Until that point, they had mostly repressed their desire to 63 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: be women, living as typical straight men, often getting married 64 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: and having children, then ultimately giving into their deep dark 65 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: secret and transitioning. You've likely heard of autogidophilia, but it's 66 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: widely misunderstood. You don't to jump in or anything, or 67 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: should I plunge on? Okay? Fast forward to today in 68 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: the progressive we live in a culture that glorifies being 69 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: transgender or queer and asserts there is no greater villain 70 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: than the straight white men. Masculinity is ridiculed and gender 71 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: nonconformity is praised. You see what I'm getting at. There 72 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: is no incentive to repress anymore. Now. The incentive is 73 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: to embrace and to fuel those auto sexual impulses, even 74 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: for a young man who may be much closer to 75 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: just kind of straight in the normal way allo sexual 76 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: as opposed to auto sexual. It gets a little complicated 77 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: into psychology, but anyway more attracted to actual women than 78 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: the idea of the self as a woman, but who 79 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: feels socially awkward and intimidated by girls may lean into 80 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: auto gynophilic fantasies as an easier solution to meeting his 81 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: sexual needs. Remember, these boys are typically shy and autistic. 82 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: Unlike in the past, auto sexual impulses are no longer 83 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: an entirely solitary fantasy, but are fueled and ed by 84 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: larger cultural forces. Social media and porn are playing a 85 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: much greater role in enabling and sustaining their self directed 86 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: sexuality than would be possible without them. This is not 87 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: all a case for the social contagent theories is seen 88 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: in girls, because for the boys, social media and porn 89 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: did not create their auto gidophilia. It's merely another technology 90 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: that enables and encourages it. It does this in a 91 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: less obvious way as well, through the state of chronic 92 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: body dissociation of one who spends most of the life online. 93 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: How only are these teen boys and young men attached 94 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: to a fantasy of themselves in their head, but an 95 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: avatar of themselves they've created in the virtual world, neither 96 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: of which match their physical reality. 97 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: It's also pretty well known as a guy who's read 98 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: a lot about internet porn because I got a couple 99 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 2: of teenage boys and the dangers that it is to 100 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: your brain and everything like that. The number of straight 101 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: men it turns into interested in being with dudes. It's 102 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 2: a very common thing. 103 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: Really, just yeah, watching it and getting interested or. 104 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: I don't exactly know, but there's something with the constant 105 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: stimulation in your brain that at some point apparently your 106 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: brain just mixes it all together. It's just all stimulating. 107 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: I'm as stimulated by that person as that person. It's 108 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 2: just all stimulating to me. And I've read a number 109 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: of guys talking about Oh yeah, I was fully convinced 110 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: I was into dudes, and then I got away from 111 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: internet port and I went back to be in the 112 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: heterosexual that I was, and like, I can't even believe 113 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 2: that even happened. Oh yeah. 114 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: You got to be really careful about applying logical standards 115 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: or even moral standards sometimes to sexual response, because, for instance, 116 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: there are many women who have been raped and experienced 117 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: unmistakable signs of sexual arousal and it is and they're 118 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: ashamed of it, and they feel terrible about it because 119 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: it's a brutal, terrible crime. It's not a decision you make, no, 120 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: And I could see you know, if you're looking at 121 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: online porn and there's dudes. 122 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: Or both are or whatever hours a day and probably 123 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: for lots of young men. 124 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: Right, and you'll find yourself aroused by that and think, 125 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, maybe I am into that. I don't know, 126 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: but right. 127 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: And then another thing on the whole, the masculine image, 128 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: and how we don't have that anymore. Who's the celebrity 129 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: that died yesterday. I don't remember his real name. He 130 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: was the dad in the TV show Good Times in 131 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: the seventies. He got a fair amount of attention John Amos, 132 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: John Amos. So you're too young for this, Katie. But 133 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: it was a big time hit sitcom in the seventies 134 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: with an all black family, and he was a man. 135 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: I mean, he was a man's man that ran that 136 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: family and was the breadwimmer, brett winner and the disciplinarian 137 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: and everything like that, the way men used to be 138 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: portrayed in TV when I was growing up. Now, any 139 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: dad in any sitcom is a week of feminine dumb 140 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: has no role in any decision making whatsoever. And I 141 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: mean there's some sort of. 142 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: Cartoonish, mocking version of masculinity. 143 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: So that has to play a role in what you 144 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: are comfortable with or not comfortable with, or preferred as to. 145 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: And I know I've said this on the radio show, 146 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: but I cannot tell you the amount of friends that 147 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: I've talked to are just randoms that have mentioned like 148 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: where did the men go? 149 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? I hear that from women all the time too. Yeah. 150 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: So on. One further note on this from Matt and Honolulu, 151 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: who recommended a book on the topic by Alice Dreger, 152 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: who is a real lefty but a scientist and an 153 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: actual scientist and despises militant queer theory in transgender activism 154 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: because it's none of it, None of it is data 155 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: driven or has any scientific backing. So and she writes 156 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: about he says, it's both hilarious and terrifying. The combination 157 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: of utterly crazy ideology combined with a militancy and zealousness 158 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: of its adherence that's so resolute it would make the 159 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: Imperial Japanese Army uncomfortable, which is pretty good sentence. Is 160 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: something to behold This topic, while difficult, is very important 161 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: in understanding while the typical transgender female to male person 162 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: went from either what we were describing earlier, an autogonophilia 163 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: case in middle age but typically it could also be 164 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: an extremely feminine gay man in the late twentieth century 165 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: to hulking heterosexual males who enjoy nothing more than slamming 166 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: a volleyball in a young girl's face in the present day. 167 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: These two groups need to be disambugated disambiguated. I knew 168 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: I was going to screw that up. Note to self 169 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: use the term disambiguated more often. In other words, seen 170 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: is two very different things. To stop the most egregious 171 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: excesses of radical queer theory. 172 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope this is like a phase something that's 173 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: going to phase out over time. 174 00:09:54,679 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: Yes, it will, because it's utterly nuts. It's unsupportable by 175 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: anything scientific or logical. 176 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: Ye, it is. 177 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: It is a cult. 178 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: Well, the question is it will phase out. But will 179 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: we phase it out or will it be phased out 180 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: of us by a more aggressive society winning over because 181 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 2: we can't get our act together. 182 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: Well, it'll be over my cold dead cis gender heterosexual 183 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: body white? White? Oh yeah, yeah, very very white. But 184 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: the idea that look and this is so insidious. And 185 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: as we've said many times, these people wrote books. Their 186 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: names are on the cover. They describe precisely what they 187 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: wanted to do. Identify anybody who's the least bit uncomfortable 188 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: with their sexuality, their masculinity, their femininity, just anything, convince 189 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: them that they are part of the army to overcome 190 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: the oppression of Western society. Will recruit them. Meanwhile, we'll 191 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: get all the black folks, will convince them that the 192 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: system is against them. Blah blah blah. Meanwhile, we'll convince 193 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: everybody who's this, that or the other and convince them 194 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: that they need to overthrow Western society and will will 195 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: assemble an army of misfits that all are convinced that 196 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: Marxism is the brave new utopia. Again, this is not 197 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: some sort of fantasy I have. These people wrote. 198 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: Books women shouldn't have penises. You're here, it's decided, then. 199 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm a hard yes on that principle you've expressed staunchly 200 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: in your camp. No, Pennis, you know, the father in 201 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: good times today would probably be looked at as toxic. 202 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely toxic male. 203 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: Correct. 204 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: And there he was raising JJ Walker and Michael Jackson's 205 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 2: little sister. 206 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: That's right. Worth pointing out that his wife, Florida or Flow, 207 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: was also very wise and sweet and played an important 208 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: role in the family in the way that a man 209 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: and a woman do. It was a really a beautiful show. 210 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was closer to like what actual families are like. Yeah, well, 211 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: I guess that's it.