1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Call It what it Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington, 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hi, call it Crew. 4 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 3: I'm laughing because Jessica, do you know that you have 5 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: a signature? Jessica, do you know that you have a signature? Hello? 6 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 3: To our listeners, it's always Hello, Hello, Hello, call it crew. 7 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 3: And now I feel like I can't ever start the 8 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: pop because I'm like, that's that's the good vibe to start. 9 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: Our hot allways. 10 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: I actually did notice that I just recently noticed that 11 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: that's how I started, and I'm hoping that's a good thing. 12 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: That's the way the spirit meet me when we start 13 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: these off. And I also always get to look at 14 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: your face, so I get all excited. That's my when 15 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: I see your face. Now just say. 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello. Yeah, I'm gonna add this move in. 17 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 3: Now we need to shoulder shim. It's a little ship. Yeah, 18 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 3: it's little Hello. 19 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Camilla Ludington. 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 3: Hello, Jessica Capshaw. I'm so excited to be here with 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 3: you today. 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm very excited to be here with you today. My 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: morning start off a little rougher around the edges than 24 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: I really wanted it to. Nothing tragic, nothing, nothing of 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: great import, just more a rainy day, a rainy day 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: on the East Coast during a week that the kids 27 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: are in tennis camp and tennis has played outside, and 28 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: when it rains, tennis would probably be less enjoyable, and 29 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: orch is not possible, right because the courts just. 30 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: You can't play on it. 31 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: None of this is really was stopping me from sending 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: them no no. I was like, they're gonna they're gonna go, 33 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: and they kind of they all looked at me. Normally, 34 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: they don't even think it's the possibility to say, like, 35 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: let's not go. They wouldn't even ask. But for some 36 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: reason they paused. And the pause normally doesn't make me pause, 37 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: Like normally it's just yeah, keep going, keep walking. But 38 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: I paused, and the double pause gave way. Yeah, they 39 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: paused and I pause. They saw a window, they saw 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: the wind, they saw the window, they saw the crack. 41 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they went for it. 42 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: They were like, but it's raining. And then they all 43 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: started talking really really fast and explaining how when it 44 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: rains that the campers go to the arena. 45 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: Where they get killed. What's the arena where the Hunger 46 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: Games happen. 47 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's what I saw it. That's what I 48 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: saw in my head. And then they said it smells 49 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: like feet. The arena smells like feet. 50 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: That sounds a little District twelve to me. 51 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: Because now I'm an East Coaster. I thought, well, it 52 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: must be a hockey rink. It must be it like 53 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: in the winter at the hockey rink, right, and then 54 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: the summer it's where you go when it rains or 55 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: you've feel very bad. 56 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: What is now? We need to know what. 57 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: The arena is because do we need to call the cops? 58 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: I don't. 59 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. We're gonna maybe you just let's well, 60 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna explain more, and you're gonna tell me what 61 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: my next best step is. So they said, we go 62 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: to the arena. They said it smells like feet. And 63 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: then they said, and we have to do fitness in 64 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: the arena. Also, I haven't heard the word fitness in 65 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: a while. 66 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 3: I know that just bought I just did a little 67 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 3: WinCE because it bought back some memories. 68 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: Yeah you bumped on it. 69 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: I did because it was like, you know, it bought 70 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: out like school school fitness. Yeah, not my favorite. 71 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: Oh, oh my gosh. 72 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: That no Monday when we had to run the mile. 73 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: I mean I would have done, truly. I think I 74 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: did hide in the gym locker room a couple of times. 75 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, negative twelve degrees out and you're in a hockey skirt. 76 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: No thanks, just running by the way, which, of course 77 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: I've said it before, and I'll say again, I don't 78 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: do and less chaste. So arena smells like feet, yeah, fitness, fitness, 79 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: And the crack widened, and I said, you're not doing that, 80 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: not on. 81 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: My watch, on my watch, Oh you did. Oh so 82 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: they're not at their arena. 83 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: No, that's why the morning took some detours for me. 84 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 2: Oh, because I thought they were there. 85 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 3: I thought you were like, just you're gonna go and 86 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 3: we're gonna find out if you survive. 87 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: No, I I let them not go. 88 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: And it started pouring, so I thought, well, that's a 89 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: solid choice. And then an hour later when it was 90 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: just drizzling, and they were like mom, mom, mom, mom, mom, mom, mom, 91 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: mom mom, And I was like, well, and then Poppy 92 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: looked at me with these sad, sad eyes and she 93 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: was like, I just I wanted to ask you a 94 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: question and I Nope, that didn't that didn't soften me. 95 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: You would have thought it would the big blue eyes, 96 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: and you know it didn't soften. No, no, no, no, no, no 97 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: no no. I was just way too stuck in my 98 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: my Yeah. Yes, so I was like, I'm drying to 99 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: work with a glowing eyes, fire coming out of my mouth. 100 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, fire. We've all been there. Lucas isn't too. He's like, well, 101 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 3: I just what it's this a little husky, little like 102 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: cute voice. I just want to ask a question. I'm like, okay, okay, 103 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: what's the question he was like in toy Story does bus? 104 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 3: I'm like, that's not a question. That's not a question. 105 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 3: We don't need to talk about. Buzz like your right now, 106 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 3: not an emergency. Well, I'm glad they didn't have to, like, 107 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: you know, battle it out at the arena today. No, 108 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: are you kind of like once it gets to a drizzle, 109 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: maybe the arena's starting. 110 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 2: To look a little good. 111 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: Oh no, the arena started looking good. Not there wasn't 112 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: didn't even have to get to drizzle. It was like 113 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: four minutes after I made the decision that they were 114 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: staying home. The arena sounded fine. 115 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, fine, and it's fine. 116 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: Send them with a bow and arrow and they're on 117 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 3: their way and it's gonna be fair. 118 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, these kids have a nice life, you know, little adversity, 119 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: little little little friction, a little something or bump up against. 120 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: We want to hear about my Yeah, well yes, please, Okay, Well, 121 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: I uh forgot I had booked my dad to come 122 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: into town and stay with me. I literally had forgotten. 123 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: I had booked his tickets so far out that I 124 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 3: literally forgot who was coming to visit until like a 125 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 3: few days before. And I was like, crap, because it's 126 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: so busy, and I definitely feel the pressure people staying. 127 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 3: But I also forget always and I know that they 128 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: can't listen parents. I wish it was an age that 129 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 3: you got to where parents were like, you know what, 130 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: they've got it. Like it's like they've got it, they're 131 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 3: on their way, they've flown the nest. It's we don't 132 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: need to give any more unsolicited advice. I'm gonna throw 133 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 3: out an example of just one of the things my 134 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 3: dad said to me this week that made me want 135 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 3: to take to Tela shots. He was like, darling, he 136 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: wanted to. He wanted to know about, you know, investments, right, 137 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: because it's always like, you know, it's always the subjects 138 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: that are like what are you doing with your life? 139 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: Where is your you know, like it's always like the 140 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: big things, right, So he was like, you know, you 141 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: want to talk about investments, and then he goes Camilla 142 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: etn musk Okay, because he will never get a name, right, 143 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: he goes Eton musk Milla has come out with this 144 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: sort of app ai that predicts the best like stocks 145 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 3: and everything to invent, so you should really look into that. 146 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: And I was like, great, these are the kind of 147 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: gems I've been dealing with all week. Just send me that, 148 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: just seriously. Or he'll say things like he doesn't know 149 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: how the film industry works at all. He's like, should you. 150 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: Tell Grey's Anatomy that Joe is ready to be cheap? 151 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, should you know what I should 152 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 3: tell them? And that's probably gonna happen. I'm gonna go 153 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: up to our show runner Meg, who I love, and go, hey, 154 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: my dad thinks that Joe Wilson's ready to be chief 155 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: on the show. 156 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: Uh huh, what are you? 157 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: How are you feeling about that? Yeah? Thoughts and feelings, 158 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: thoughts and feelings. And then of course he is Oh, 159 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: here's the other thing he does. It's been driving me 160 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: crazy all week. He loves our dogs. We have three 161 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: rescue dogs. He loves our dogs. And he came in 162 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 3: and he was like, Darling, the dogs are so thirsty. 163 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: And I was like, Dad, their dog bowl is like 164 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: right over with that. He goes, do they know where 165 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: their bowl is? And I was like, no, Dad, For 166 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: two years since we've lived here, they've actually just been 167 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 3: wondering around the house dying of thirst, trying to figure 168 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: it out. 169 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: I was like, yes, they know where their bull is. 170 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: Yes, And so honestly, I don't know if anyone's seen 171 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: the movie signs and the movie signs Okay, the Alien 172 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 3: movie with Mel Gibson. There's bowls of water fucking everywhere. 173 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: Our house has about one hundred bowls of water out 174 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: right now for our dogs. There's a bowl in every 175 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: corner in case our dogs round that corner and decide 176 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: they're thirsty forget where their og bowl is and need 177 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 3: a drink. I'm not kidding. 178 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: I took a video yesterday. 179 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 3: I took a video yesterday and sent it to my 180 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 3: siblings because I was like, it's sending me of my 181 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 3: dog of my dad filling up the twentieth bowl of 182 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: water outside because there was a corner of the yard 183 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: that didn't have a bowl. So that that's been my week, 184 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 3: szaper Shell, I can't. 185 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: I think he was looking for some purpose and he 186 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: was wrapping it up in his ability to give your water, 187 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: your dog some water. 188 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: It's so annoying. I'm gonna take actually, you know what, 189 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna make a collage of all the water bowls 190 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: are out right now and just for this, just for 191 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: this episode. 192 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: But yeah, why do they come with so much advice? 193 00:09:58,960 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: Okay? 194 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: Well, so I said, so, I see you so deeply 195 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: on that because for whatever, maybe it's in maybe there's 196 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: something in the water right now, maybe there's something in 197 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: the star in the water world. Because I had a 198 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: recent recently, I had a similar experience where I told you, 199 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: in the summers, we spend a lot of time together, 200 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: like the whole family, like the bigger family, like not 201 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: just pot family, but like the bigger my family of origin, 202 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: and so lots of time and it's so much fun. 203 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: And isn't the whole gang go for the summer and 204 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: stay together? Is that what? 205 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? But I'm kind of like a couple. Yeah, but 206 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: like some in and out and all that. But you know, 207 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: my mom and I are very closed and it's a 208 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: great time to have lots of family togetherness and everything else. 209 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: And I love spending time with her. She's one of 210 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: my favorite people, so much fun. And this week she 211 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: just every once in a while would like sort of 212 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: have like just a note for the suggestion Box, oh, 213 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: like just you know, some helpful little tidbit. 214 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 3: And she's so sweet. 215 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: She's been listening to the pods, which is so fantastic, 216 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: and I feel so loved and super just happy and supported. 217 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: And she's also just sort of had a couple notes 218 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: for how I've been talking. 219 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: No, no, oh my god, I don't even want to 220 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 3: know what Mama Capshaw would say about what I say, 221 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: because I think you're perfect on the pod And when 222 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 3: I when I listen to the edit back, I'm like, 223 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 3: oh god, let's just skip to Jess. 224 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: No. No, I think you're perfect. I think you're perfect. 225 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: But there's just been like a couple of things. 226 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: Where do what are we allowed to know? One of 227 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: the suggestion box suggestions. 228 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: Okay, so this particular instance was and I was so 229 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: I was talking, I was saying something, and I said 230 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: the word she, like she did something or she went somewhere. 231 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: And my mother said, oh, do you notice that when 232 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: you say she, you really put a strong emphasis on 233 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: the sh, like you really say she. 234 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: Oh huh. 235 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: She said, yeah, you just it's not just she, it's she. 236 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 3: Oh okay, what do you do with that? 237 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: Ill? And also just want to put this in there. 238 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: She's not wrong, She's not wrong. I do all of 239 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: a sudden, I'm now aware of the fact that I 240 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: don't say she, I say she she. 241 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 3: You know what I think you Here's a funny thing. 242 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: When I listen to the pod. I think that you 243 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 3: sound so like like Regal almost with your American accent. Okay, 244 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 3: And I think I've adopted I think that when I 245 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 3: came here, it's not my natural accent. I think I've 246 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 3: adopted some sort of like Laguna Beach slur. I think 247 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 3: it sounds like I'm like twenty martinis and sometimes and 248 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 3: I'm also you know, I just I can't like the 249 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 3: comparison it. Honestly, I sound drunk. 250 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: No, you don't like it. 251 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: I just sound sloppy, is what I'm trying to say. 252 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 3: I sound I Sometimes I think I might sound very 253 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 3: sloppy and like, why it why is that what I adopted? 254 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: You don't like all that reality TV? I got problem 255 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: because you were. 256 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 3: My God, You're right, I need I need to start 257 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: watching I don't know something more succession. 258 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there you go. Well I would. I don't 259 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: I think American accents or anything but regal, but I will. 260 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: I will take that compliment. I would compared to me 261 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: my mother did. We really had some notes for the 262 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: she and so I was like, okay, great, so it was, 263 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: and I just sort of went okay because again like 264 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: she's correct. So then I don't even know what it was. 265 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: But I was saying something else and she said something 266 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: about that I don't remember it was. And I was 267 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: trying to think back on my own advice, which of 268 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: course we keep saying, like give like be your best advocate, 269 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: be your number one band, so like, listen to your 270 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: own advice. And I said something along the lines of 271 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: love you so much, thanks for them, feedback. My suggestion 272 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: box is not open right now. 273 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, not taking. 274 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: Suggestions, but I appreciate it, and I think we're good. 275 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: And she and we speak in humor, so she completely 276 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: got that. That was my nip it please, lady, hey, lady, 277 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: zip it. Yeah, but you know you can't unring a bell. 278 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: And now she's in my head and yeah, you're gonna 279 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: say she might never be the same. I'm not sure. 280 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: And then actually, funnily enough again going back to the 281 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: and with a lot of family these days, maybe like 282 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: the next day, I'm talking to my sister and I said, 283 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: and she looked at me, and she said, you know, 284 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: you do the Kardashian R. 285 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: God, wait, what is that? 286 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: What's the Kardashian R. 287 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: Well, I actually weirdly knew exactly what she was referring to. 288 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: It's the crispy R. It's the it's when I say great, great, 289 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: or I say it's it's it's really getting a crispy. 290 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: It's an R. It's a it's I don't know, it's 291 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: not like a pirate urg, but it's like a there's 292 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: a there's a real we'll say a word with an 293 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: R in it. 294 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 2: There's some heat on the R. 295 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if I think great, that's so great. Great 296 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: normal people were you wouldn't you would just say great. 297 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: But I guess this one, the crispy R is great? Right, 298 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: So she says this to me, and normally I would 299 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: think nothing of it and just continue, yeah, make it 300 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: my breakfast. And I think because I had this the 301 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: heat of the she moment earlier and again, you sort 302 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: of will give your sibling stuff that you probably don't 303 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: give your parents. 304 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: I looked at her like, I don't know if this 305 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 3: is because. 306 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: We're going on week five of all being together and 307 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: everything else. But let me ask you a question. Who cares? 308 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: Who cares? 309 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: How I say it, who cares? 310 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: Why do you feel like you need to tell me? 311 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: I don't? 312 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: What do you what do you care? What do you want? 313 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: What do you care? 314 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: What do you want? 315 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: And she kind of looked at me, and she's just sweet. 316 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: She's just sitting there. She's like, well, it's just that 317 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: you didn't always do it. 318 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: Oh god, it's really funny. I was like, well I do. 319 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: Now You're like, this is what I've adopted. I like 320 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 3: the idea of the suggestion box. I think I'm gonna 321 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 3: go home and be like, hey, dad, it's closed. Yeah, 322 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: the thing is, but the problem is that somebody has 323 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: to respect that it's closed. My dad will go okay, 324 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: oh god, okay, Like I'm being like a little bit dronk. 325 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 3: When I was younger, he used to go save it 326 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: for the screen, Camilla, save it for the screen, Like 327 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: I was like being such a demon, so annoying. 328 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: Parents are so annoying all the time. 329 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: It never runs, it never ends, especially now that I'm 330 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: a parent, And I wonder, I think think you're right. 331 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: I think that they never think their job is done, 332 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: and I think that we won't either, which I think 333 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: is something to consider. I think you gotta, we gotta. 334 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to try, and I'm gonna write a 335 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: note to myself in twenty years, yeah, you know, a 336 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: little reminder note. But yeah, yeah. And I think that 337 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: they care so much, and so they just they think 338 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: that they're the unsolicited advice thing they just think is warranted. 339 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. But I also feel like there's that great thing 340 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 3: of like parents being like super hypocritical. It's like my dad, 341 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, Kimala, have you drunk enough water today? And 342 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 3: He'll be saying it like smoking the end of his 343 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 3: pack of cigarettes, and I'm like, no, no, but I'm 344 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 3: glad you're on cigarette number twenty. Asking me. 345 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: Any who to do as I say, not as I do. 346 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: Make sure you wear some sunscreen, and he has a 347 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: sunscreen with a factor of four. Right now, I've never 348 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 3: seen someone buy oil. I haven't seen them by tanning 349 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 3: oil since I lived in Texas in ninety eight. My 350 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: dad's the only one that picked it up from CBS. 351 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: The reason why there's one off the shelf in CVS 352 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 3: is because you're in last Night. Notice my dad got that. 353 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: Is it like the Banda solet orange jealet? 354 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 3: No, it's like the old Is it Santra like the 355 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 3: the one that from the Canas. Yes, it smells like 356 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 3: a coconut hit you in the face. 357 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, No, like a pina colada. 358 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, all kind of yeah. 359 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: So the other thing that happened on the really really 360 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: positive end of things is I got my hair done. 361 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: I went to the salon and I got my hair 362 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: colored and cut. And I gotta tell you, not for nothing. 363 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the ceremony of it. I 364 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: don't know if it's the aftermath the hair and the bowl. 365 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: Like my kids always say that too, like no, no, 366 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: like they'll take a dat home haircut, but they really 367 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: want that that shampoo in the bowl at the salon. Really, 368 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: But I got out of there, and I was like, 369 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: I felt like I was walking in the slow motion 370 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: with a wind machine in front of me. Like it 371 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: was just everything changed. My whole perspective on life change. 372 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: Like if I went in and there was storm clouds 373 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: before I went in there, there was just bright sunny sunshine. 374 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: The horse trying. That's how I'm speaking, That's how I 375 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 3: speak on this. 376 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I am. I was really really psyched about that. 377 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: I was very very happy to get my hair done. Okay, 378 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: so here's a funny little tidbit that goes back to 379 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: what we were talking about before. While they can just 380 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: assault us with all the unsolicited advice, they do redeem themselves. 381 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: When I went to check out, I found out that 382 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: my mother had treated me to my little salon experience. 383 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 1: I guess it's self care, right, but it's also just 384 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: there's something that fits a little extra spring in your 385 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: step when you're when you're feeling all tidied up. 386 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 3: It's funny because we did start shooting rais anutom me 387 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 3: this week, no beauty for you and no well here, well, yes, 388 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 3: no beauty for me because yeah, you're a doctor. Well, yes, 389 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 3: I'm a doctor, but I can't spoil but Joe Wilson's 390 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 3: you know, in the first episode's she's a little less 391 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 3: makeup than we even usually wear. But it was the 392 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: first time where I feel like this summer I've like, 393 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 3: you know, I wake up. I woke up in the 394 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 3: morning really early to go to work first filming day, 395 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 3: and I looked in the mirror and it was like 396 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 3: I could tell on my face how the summer had gone. 397 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? 398 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 3: Like like it was like a map of like where 399 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 3: everything had strutt And I was like, Jess, like, this 400 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 3: is a situation. And then I got shown this, tweeted 401 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 3: this picture of me which I'll put out on the 402 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 3: pod of me when I was little starting the show, 403 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: and I was like, damn, it's really hard. I've got 404 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: to tell you aging. Look at this. I'll tweet this 405 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 3: out too. Oh gosh, wow, yeah, tiny babe. 406 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: I know, but it's hard. 407 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 3: It's it's hard as an actress going into your next 408 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 3: season and knowing that you've been this character for a 409 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: while and you have really aged, You've aged, and every 410 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: single mature age is sure matures you a little bit more. 411 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 3: Every summer matures you a little bit more. And it 412 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 3: was the first time this summer. I was like, damn, 413 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 3: I gotta like get it together somehow. 414 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: You're insane. If people could see what I'm looking at, 415 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: You're like the most beautiful thing in the world, and 416 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: you have the most beautiful face and it's just full 417 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: of life and youth, and I just I see, I 418 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: understand that you feel that way, and I disagree. 419 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: Well, let's be real, Okay. 420 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 3: I sat down on the pod before we started filming, 421 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 3: and we're gonna talk about you today, So I'm gonna 422 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 3: talk about this right now. I told Jessica. I was 423 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 3: so excited because I found the touch up my Appearents 424 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 3: button on the zoom and I did a little I 425 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 3: did a little skism. 426 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 2: I clicked it. I couldn't click it all the way 427 00:21:58,720 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 2: because I. 428 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 3: Just ended up blur and like one eyeball, and I honestly, 429 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 3: I was a little tempted. I was like, that's a 430 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 3: good eyeball. That's a blur, And then I had to 431 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 3: take it down to it where it's a little realistic. 432 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 3: But I feel this is not actually really what In fact, 433 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 3: if I put my hand in front of my face, 434 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 3: is it doing it? No, it doesn't do a glitch. 435 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 3: It's not that much, but I mean I felt like 436 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 3: I needed just a little little wink wink Today, Yeah 437 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 3: you need a little a little But isn't it crazy 438 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 3: that our technology can kind of lie that much? Oh well, 439 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like even on a zoom, 440 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 3: I don't look quite like this. This is really like 441 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 3: I have a little I'm tired in here, and the 442 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: touch of my parents little has kind of made it 443 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 3: all disappear. 444 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: I uh, yeah, well, I think technology has definitely changed 445 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: a lot of that, like what's real what's not. And 446 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: one of the first times I actually thought, wow, there's 447 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: probably a very big difference between you used to remember 448 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: when you used to only see candid pictures of celebrities 449 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: because an invasive group of paparazzi took a picture and 450 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: they were so priceless because you were like celebrity in 451 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: the wild. 452 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god. They used to have that, yeah, yeah, 453 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: celebrities in the wild. 454 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 455 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: And then there would be where you were meant to 456 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: see them on a red carpet, and so that was 457 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: where you saw the people that you looked at in 458 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: movies and television, right, And I think that that was 459 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: what they looked like what people looked like. But now 460 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: everybody's in charge of their own image, and likely most 461 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,479 Speaker 1: of what's seen is stuff that they've taken themselves and 462 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: put online or on their social media apps or whatever, 463 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: and which everything can be altered however you'd like it 464 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: to be, and I did. I remember a couple of 465 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: years ago seeing a picture of someone on a red 466 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: carpet that I'd only been looking at on social media 467 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: for a while, and there was a huge disparity the 468 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: way that the person looked on the red carpet on 469 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: real film versus what they had been putting out on 470 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: their you know, Instagram page was totally different because of 471 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: the way that they used filters and you know, touch 472 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: up my appearance or whatever, which by the way I've done, 473 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: I understand, I mean absolutely, I mean, I you know, 474 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: I do sort of feel like there's a it's personal right, 475 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: like you have to My personal opinion is like you can, Josh, 476 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: but you can't like reconfigure you know what. 477 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 3: This is really funny you say this like it can't 478 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 3: be a different head. 479 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: Yes, no, but let's talk about this. 480 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 3: I had a picture myself that I wanted to just 481 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 3: a little right and face Tune is the only app 482 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 3: that I know that is you can you can kind 483 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 3: of juja a little bit, right, maybe you smooth out 484 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 3: a little lions here and there. But I discovered the 485 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 3: button where it's like it can auto just do a hole. 486 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 3: I don't even know what it's called, but it's like 487 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 3: the button that can you can press it, and the 488 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: AI kind of was like, you know what, we can 489 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 3: fix kind of this for you, right. I swear to god, 490 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 3: apparently my face is a Picasso because it literally shaved 491 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 3: my chin off, like I don't know if I have 492 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 3: a buzz light your chin. It shaved my chin down. 493 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 3: It gave me I was like gee. I was like, 494 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 3: oh my god, is this what I need done? My 495 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: eyeballs increased by five hundred percent on my precess, my 496 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 3: lips were like so juicy, and then I had to 497 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 3: go like back and forth between it because I was like, what. 498 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 2: What have they done? 499 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 3: AI has taken my face and been like this is 500 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 3: not gonna work and has literally showed me like this 501 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 3: sucks on you, and I was like, this is fucked. Yeah, 502 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 3: this is messed up. I wasn't even asking for that. 503 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to increase my eyeball size. But I 504 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 3: was like, you might want to look into that. 505 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: You might want to look into that for sure. 506 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I had. 507 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: I had that one time. By the way, I think 508 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: probably a little more insulting. I was in a big 509 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: I was in this big Western mini series and they 510 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: did a group picture where it was I mean, it 511 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: had to have been fifteen to twenty cast members and 512 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: we didn't even shoot us all at the same time, 513 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: but we're all lined up and I shot mine alone 514 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: because I had been working somewhere else at the time, 515 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: so they had to put this together, this photo shoot 516 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: for me, and I take my photo and I actually 517 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: was feeling pretty good that day. And it was big, 518 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: like big hair, big makeup, the anti Western because and 519 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: that we were no makeup and we're in like the 520 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: dirt all the time. And I see the pictures basterwards, 521 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm totally happy with these pictures. These look great. 522 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm so like, they look fantastic. And then the billboard 523 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: comes out and it was one of the ones on Sunset, 524 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: so this oh yeah billboard. And then also they took 525 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: out pages in Vanity Fair, so it's like really everywhere 526 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: and I'm so excited because it's like a big deal 527 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: for me. And I go to look at it and 528 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: I flipped through the thing and I look at it, 529 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: and I'm like, what the They had drenched me out, 530 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: like they had taken me from my head where my 531 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: hair was, and my toes where my little Barbie heels were, 532 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: and they just bowed me up. I was they made. 533 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 1: They gave me an avatar body. I didn't just like it. 534 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: It just is not my body. 535 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 3: So I had Zoe Selt on. 536 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: His body and Avatar, so I had an Avatar body. 537 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: And then same same my hair. I grew more of it. 538 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: There was so much more in my hair, so much 539 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: there was hair everywhere. Not only were my lips juicy, 540 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: they were a totally different shape. They were like I 541 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: get it that people like to overline the lips these days. Whatever, Okay, 542 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: that's fun, that's dood. But they were like a bow. 543 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: They were like they were like a. 544 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: Big heart on top and had big heart and then 545 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: like my bottom lip went down to where like the 546 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: middle of my chinns. I look like one of those 547 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: like you like a yeah, I look at a brat's 548 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: exactly like a breath like. 549 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 3: A slender man body with a bratstall head. 550 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh oh and by the way, really new development. 551 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of things that I've had issues 552 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: with about myself that I about do to my insecurity 553 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: or just you know, someone else's standard of beauty or 554 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: whatever whatever, But I actually have never had a complaint 555 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: about my nose. Like I've been like, I got a 556 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: good nose. I'm good, Like I don't have any I 557 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: don't when people you talk about shading it or shout 558 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: at what's it called? 559 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, contouring, contouring it. 560 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't even know what to do, and 561 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: I want I don't know how that works. New nose. 562 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: I had a new nose. My nose was not my 563 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: nose on this billboard or this spread of I had 564 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: a completely different nose. Again, this is I'm going to 565 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: find this image and you're going to see it. 566 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: This is what I'm talking about. This is what I'm 567 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 3: talking about. The face tune did to me. I you know, 568 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 3: it's like I'm googling like eyeball surgeries after. 569 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: But my point is for you, it was an enameless, 570 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: faceless AI. There was some motherfucker that looked at me. 571 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 3: It was like, hold on, hold on, we can't put 572 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 3: this out. 573 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: We can't put this out. We gotta fix her up. 574 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 2: Pull an pull an out. Nos, we saved a couple 575 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 2: of weeks ago. 576 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, she is not fit to be. 577 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 3: Okay, so we're in a crazy industry. Obviously standards. I 578 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 3: want to know if you have ever, because I have 579 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 3: a story. However, kind of lost a role based on 580 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 3: your looks because I back in the day audition for 581 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,959 Speaker 3: a c W show that I did not get, and 582 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 3: the casting director's feedback was I was not pretty enough 583 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 3: for the wret the camera hair not excuse. 584 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: You, c WU like says who first of all, you 585 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: know what's funny? 586 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 3: It's I was like what the what the fuck? Ever? 587 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 3: I was like whatever, moving on it honestly didn't like 588 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 3: I think because at that point I had so many 589 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: notes in my career like. 590 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: Just jokes on you get in line with the. 591 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Well, first of all, I'm sorry, 592 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: is that even I mean, yes, we are, we are 593 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: absolutely trained to be and have that just be like okay, 594 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: well that whatever. You can't even take it seriously because 595 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: again it's like you're like, okay, fine, but I guess 596 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: I guess what it brings up is like what it? 597 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: What is? What is pretty? How do we understand what 598 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: pretty is? What is pretty to that person? Was it 599 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: like a group think like all of them decided that 600 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: one a person decided that, Like I think that that's 601 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: sort of where things start, which of course ended up 602 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: being the question about what are the beauty standards and 603 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: how do they get set and who sets them and 604 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: obviously how much they change from you know, family to family, 605 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: town to town, city to city, country to country, you know, culture. 606 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: It all influences what is pretty or beautiful or whatever. 607 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: I actually very specifically lost a job early in my 608 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: career because I wasn't thin enough. And I remember I 609 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: auditioned for it. It was like a rom com and 610 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: it would have been like a very a big break 611 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: for me, and I really wanted it and I worked 612 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: really really hard on it, and I went in and 613 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: I auditioned and I think I you know, probably went 614 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: through three were in heats if you will, right, And 615 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: I made it into to the director and the director 616 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: was this lovely guy who was so awesome. He was like, 617 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: you're my pick, like absolutely, like I think you're fantastic. 618 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be amazing. And my manager said, Okay, 619 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: here's the deal. You're the pick. The head of the 620 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: studio thinks that you need to be thinner like they 621 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: they just they do. And I was like okay, and 622 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: they said, so they'd like to give you, you know, 623 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: like I don't know what I was ten days, two 624 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: weeks whatever. 625 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 3: Ten days, yeah, something crazy. What are you going to do? 626 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 2: Lose a limb? 627 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: Honestly, it was so ridiculous. And again it's just so 628 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: silly when I think back to my younger self, because 629 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm you know, part of me thinks to say to 630 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: her like that, you know what, whatever, not your job, 631 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: but you don't think that way and you want the job. 632 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: So I remember they did this like very awkward thing 633 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: where they said, okay, it's you know, they didn't say it, 634 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: they didn't say it explicitly, right, but they said, you know, oh, 635 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: in two weeks, we'd like for Jessica to come in 636 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: and just have a meeting with the head of the studio, 637 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: just you know, just a meet and greet. And it 638 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: was a full check in like in those ten days. 639 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 3: Because a scale and a measuring tape, but just ignore those. 640 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: I just I know, and I tried, and oh, my gosh, 641 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: your early twenties, the stupid shit you do that. I 642 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: wish I could take all back, and I would just 643 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: die if anyone I loved did it. But it was 644 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: like I remember, there was like this. It was the 645 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: cabbage soup diet. It was the oh my god, there 646 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: was another one that was like just you can eat 647 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: air and drink air, the Air Giant, the air diet. 648 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: And I remember I did, I did all that I could. 649 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: But the truth was is the when I was younger, 650 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean still, but I just had. 651 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 3: I had. I'm assuming you, Distill did not get this role, 652 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 3: by the way, you're the director's pick. 653 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 654 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: The end of the story was that I was given 655 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: those ten days and then I went in to meet 656 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: the head of the studio and I don't even know 657 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: if it was because of like whether I was thinking 658 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 1: I must not have been thin enough. No, I didn't 659 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: get the job, And the irony was that the person 660 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: that did was actually quite well known in the business 661 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: for having disordered eating, having you know, issues with disordered eating. 662 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: So I was like, wow, this is so nuts. But yeah, yeah, 663 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: I mean, so the standard of beauty was thin. 664 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say it was worse then, Oh for sure, sure, 665 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 3: definitely worse. 666 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: And that and that's the interesting thing is that when 667 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: you think about who sets the beauty standards and then 668 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: you think about how they affect you. While you can 669 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: say in this particular case, you can say like I 670 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: don't care, like in my personal life, we're in such 671 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: a weird business. Because it's then it felt like the 672 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: difference between working and not right. You have to conform 673 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: to the beauty standards. If you don't conform to the 674 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: beauty standards, then you won't work, which is quite different 675 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: than you know, I mean, most other situations. 676 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 3: I'm very strange, and I feel like this might be 677 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 3: a Sagittarius trait where I'm a little rebellious. So if 678 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 3: I was given ten days to lose weight, the first 679 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 3: thing I would do is go eat a hamburger. I'd 680 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 3: like thank you, Like I'd be like, okay, I'll show 681 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 3: up on Tuesday. I can't wait. And then i'd hang 682 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 3: up and I'd be already in the dry through for 683 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 3: in and out, Like I just have a little bit 684 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 3: of like. 685 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 2: I love that. 686 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 3: Don't let you know, But I don't even know if 687 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 3: that's the way to go with it. I think the 688 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 3: better way to go is like, I'm just gonna carry 689 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 3: on living my life. I don't think you need to 690 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 3: go either way. I'm a little rebellious. 691 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: Well that's the key, right, and that's what you end 692 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 1: up at, I think, which is exactly right. You're gonna 693 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: go live your life, right, You're gonna go live a 694 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: life that is yeah, healthy and in your in your 695 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: mind and body, and you're gonna look over it. You 696 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: look like you're going to be healthy for you. You're 697 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: going to be in your body. You're not going to 698 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 1: try and make your body like somebody else's body, because 699 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: everybody's body is different. 700 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 3: I also feel like that reaction from me is also 701 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 3: about trying to get control back. Worthy you are controlled, Yeah, 702 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 3: you know, if the feedbacks are there or the other 703 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 3: it's like I'm going to get it back by saying 704 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 3: few and now I'm going to get the animal fries 705 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 3: in and out. Yeah, because you've lot it's a situation 706 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 3: where you've totally lost control. 707 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I see, I didn't. I felt I felt the 708 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: pressure to conform, and in my younger years, I don't 709 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: even think I should say in my younger years, I 710 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: have felt that I have felt the pressure to conform, 711 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: and it does a number on me, for sure, I have. Yeah, Yeah, 712 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: there's ways in which you know, I think that like, 713 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not so I'm not so convinced that 714 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 1: my idea of beauty is mine alone, right that I 715 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 1: came up with what I think is beautiful. I think 716 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 1: that I'm heavily influenced by all the things that are 717 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: there in the world, and then and the ways in 718 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: which you see people being looked at or or regarded 719 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: as beautiful on your Yeah, for sure, for sure that's 720 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: real for me. 721 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I also feel like we grew up in a 722 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 3: time Like me as a teen, I was one of 723 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 3: like Britney Spears came on the scene and it was 724 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 3: like the low low jeens with things. 725 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, you need a special bikini wax to wear 726 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:24,919 Speaker 1: those things. 727 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 3: Totally, you need a bikini wax you need It's like 728 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 3: Brittany had the apps. I mean, there was no one. 729 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 3: I was like, I want to be Britney Spears right Like, 730 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 3: I was a couple of years younger that I wanted 731 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 3: to be Britney and I felt like right off the bat, 732 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 3: like early early, early, which is happening now and happens 733 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 3: to everybody. There was a body type that I did 734 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 3: not have. That that's what I needed to have. 735 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, what a p a bummer. 736 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 3: It's hard because when you have kids too, It's like 737 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 3: I look at Hayden and Lucas, both of them, and 738 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 3: I love I made their little bodies. I like the 739 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 3: idea that they could hate something about their body like 740 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 3: destroys me and seems absurd too. Yeah, I can't have 741 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 3: a great feeling about myself. 742 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know. Oh, I know, there's so 743 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: much to say there. But I think what I'm experiencing 744 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 1: for the the the light that I see, the upgrade 745 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: that I'm observing in looking at it through a parenting eye, 746 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: is that it's really important how you talk to yourself 747 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: through it. It's really really important that you're kind to 748 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: yourself and that you acknowledge the thought. 749 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 4: You know. 750 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, I'm doing that thing, like I'm looking 751 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: at that person and I'm thinking I wish that I 752 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: look like them for X, Y or Z reason, and 753 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna feel that and then I'm gonna dismiss that 754 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: thought and let it move right on. Along and not 755 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: change my day, not change my behavior, or not change 756 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: you know me, which is by the way, again, it's 757 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: a fine line, but that doesn't mean to say that 758 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: you throw everything out right. Sometimes you get inspired, and 759 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: I do find makeup and hair and a lot of 760 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff really creative. And I can get 761 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: inspired by people in the way that they do those 762 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: their makeup. That's fun, you know, And and I think ultimately, 763 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: like what did I start with? 764 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 3: Right? 765 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: I got my hair cut and colored and it was 766 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: like a whole new made There's something very fun and 767 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: uplifting about certain aspects of like our rituals, you know, 768 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 1: our beautiful our beauty rituals are our ideas of that. 769 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: But then there's some really damaging negative self talk that 770 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,399 Speaker 1: can happen that that I think is you know, better 771 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 1: left better left behind. 772 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 3: You do you think as you've gotten older you feel 773 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 3: more pressure in a way or less. 774 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: I personally feel less me too. At the risk of 775 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: sounding however this sounds, I I sort of feel cuter 776 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: now than I was then. I mean, I know, I 777 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: don't know. I look at pictures of myself now I'm like, yeah, 778 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean I get it. I get what people complain 779 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: about with regards to maturing, But I think what you 780 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: gain is more than what you lose, if you even lose. 781 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 3: No, I think I think I feel cuter now, but 782 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 3: I think it's I don't. I don't think. I think 783 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,879 Speaker 3: it's because just I have more confidence. Yeah, I don't 784 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 3: think it comes from like esthetically I really am cuter now, 785 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,760 Speaker 3: or my hair is better or whatever. I just feel 786 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,399 Speaker 3: like my confidence is a lot better. 787 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Do you think the guys deal with it 788 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: as much as like, what do you think men? Uh 789 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: deal with it? 790 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 3: I do. 791 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: I think they do, but not in it's such in 792 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: such a different way. 793 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 3: In such a different way. But I definitely think the 794 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 3: social media, I mean, talk, we listen, We're always going 795 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 3: to end up at social media at some point in 796 00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 3: these conversations. Social media for guys is the same as 797 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 3: for girls. But it's like all the workouts. There's a 798 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 3: lot of pressure too, a lot because of social media 799 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 3: that maybe there wouldn't have been there before necessarily, but 800 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 3: there is now. 801 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 802 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, we have some statistics so we could read on this. 803 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. Also I feel like in a weird way, that's 804 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 1: that's their thing. I think is interesting here at the 805 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: male female not comparison. But no, it bear with me 806 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 1: for a second. No, women like there are these standards 807 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: of beauty or attractiveness, let's say for both, you know, 808 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: people who identify as male and female. And in the 809 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: female category, it feels like there's so much that you 810 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: can do rightly, all these improvements. There's a mass scare 811 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: for this, and there's a mass scare for that, and 812 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: there's a highlighter for this, and a little letter for that. 813 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 1: Like there's all this makeup and hair stuff, and it's 814 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 1: just it's such a huge business and you can buy 815 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: so much, and you can watch so many things that 816 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: will help you, you know, on your quest to become 817 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: more attractive. I think there's so many more things that 818 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: you can buy and things that you can watch that 819 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: are geared towards women. I think that men don't get 820 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 1: as many things served up to them, which isn't to 821 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: say that they don't deal with the same insecurities. It's 822 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: just like there's there's less being sold to them in 823 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 1: terms of making it better or feeling better. 824 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 2: So then it. 825 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: Always it seems like it pivots to like for guys, 826 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 1: it's I feel like in the guy category. These days 827 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: you hear about it's like, yeah, it's the gem or 828 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: the muscles or the body or whatever. And then it's 829 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: like the hair. And then I feel like I've been 830 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: hearing a lot more about I don't know if it's 831 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: more like like the chin situation, there's a whole line. 832 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 3: I think it's like the filler. The filler's happening in 833 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 3: people's jawlines where they need that, like they need that, 834 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 3: Like really, yeah, yeah. 835 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 2: I'm more of a ce. 836 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm more of an O. 837 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 3: I leaned into the sea shape. 838 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: By the way. Someone early days someone said that to me. 839 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: Someone said that I should get my buckle fat pad removed, 840 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 1: and I was like, what the is my buckle fat pad? 841 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: And like does that thing just pop out? What happened? 842 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 3: What do you mean? Do you get surgery? 843 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: And thank god, I mean thank god I didn't, And 844 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: thank god I had people around me that was like 845 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: that's insane. 846 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're still, we're around. These were the only two 847 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 3: round to night. I'm okay with it. 848 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm good. So along the lines of talking about men 849 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: and women that it is reported in the conversation dot 850 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,240 Speaker 1: com that body image issues affect close to forty percent 851 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: of men, but many don't get the support that they need. 852 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: It's estimated that between thirty and forty percent of men 853 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,760 Speaker 1: are anxious about their weight, and that up to eighty 854 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: five percent are dissatisfied with their muscularity. Many men desire 855 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: a lean and muscular physique. See that's what I'm saying, 856 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 1: which is often seen as synonymous with masculinity. Yeah, so 857 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: it's like guys want to be ripped and hate that 858 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: though they want to be ripped with a full head 859 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 1: of hair and a nice jaw line. And that's like 860 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: three things, which I'm not taking that away. It's three things, right, 861 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: And I think women it's like, oh my gosh, go 862 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: down the. 863 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 3: List and then and then and then. 864 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so many things. And I think that, you know, 865 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 1: and I think that again. We're going back to social media, right, 866 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 1: it's comparison. Comparison in Front of Mine says comparison is 867 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: a thief of joy. It's true. Whenever you compare yourself 868 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: to someone else, you know, it takes it sucks to 869 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: your joy right out. You're always going to think someone's 870 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 1: got something better, whatever it is. And social media is 871 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 1: obviously the most fertile ground for that. All you have 872 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 1: to do is you go on any at any time 873 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 1: and you're going to see someone who has something more 874 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: than you do in some direction that you wish you 875 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: had it, and then you walk away feeling less then. 876 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: And that's what a lot of people are doing. And 877 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 1: it kind of doesn't even matter what their age is, right, 878 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: They're going on there and they're seeing that there's something better, 879 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 1: something they don't have, and it makes you feel less then, 880 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 1: And it's really a it's a big it's really bummer. 881 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 3: It's interesting because I'm thinking, as you're talking about this, 882 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 3: I'm thinking, Okay, if I had the perfect body, right, 883 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 3: the perfect body I think is potentially the esthetic for 884 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 3: the perfect body, what difference in my day to day 885 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,479 Speaker 3: would it honestly make? What would it actually like? Give 886 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,359 Speaker 3: me right, I'm still doing a school drop off. Does 887 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 3: the perfect like the perfect body is not making a 888 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 3: difference there. I'm gonna go get my coffee. It's not 889 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 3: really affecting my day there either, we go to dinner. 890 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,959 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wearing a shorter crop top. 891 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. That's the extent, is what I'm saying. 892 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. What is it really, How is 893 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,359 Speaker 3: it really going to affect your day if you have 894 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,959 Speaker 3: the prefer if you have the perfect face that you've 895 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 3: decided that you have, does it really is it really 896 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 3: actually gonna affect your day if you if you have it? 897 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 3: Because I feel like it won't. 898 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: Okay, So I understand what you're saying. I think that 899 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 1: I believe that your mindset about what you have is 900 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:45,399 Speaker 1: the most important thing. So yes, if your mindset is 901 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: I have the perfect body for me, I feel great 902 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 1: about my body. It's and everyone's again, everyone's idea is different. 903 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: You know, my body can run two miles without breaking 904 00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: a sweat. That's really important to me. And so I 905 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 1: have that, and then my mindset's going to be great. 906 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: And it doesn't really matter what it looks like, it's 907 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 1: how I feel about it. Right. So I think that 908 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: the journey, or like the Promised Land, is getting to 909 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 1: the place where whatever it is that you have you 910 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 1: feel great about because that will just make your kid 911 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: drop off and your coffee later and your dinner later 912 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 1: better because you're not weighed down by this idea that 913 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: you need to be anything other than what you are. 914 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,359 Speaker 1: You're happy with what you are, You're content, You can 915 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 1: focus on other things. You can listen to the conversation, 916 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: you can listen to the words of the person sitting 917 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 1: across from you at dinner, because you're not fixating or 918 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 1: thinking about something that you don't have, that you didn't 919 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: get right. 920 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 4: You know. 921 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's the waste of time. I 922 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 1: think that's the the I think that's. 923 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,280 Speaker 3: What I'm getting at. Like, I think I'm getting at 924 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 3: the idea of what you could be. What would it 925 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 3: really bring you if you were that, Like if we 926 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 3: were just if we end up being happy with ourselves, 927 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 3: that's it. That's awesome. It's not really gonna affect my life. 928 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,320 Speaker 1: She goes some questions. 929 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:08,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do some questions. 930 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 1: So Matthew writes in I'm going to be blunt. I'm 931 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: a thirty two year old man and I'm already losing 932 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 1: my hair. I am on every dating app and I 933 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: wear a hat in all my profile photos when I 934 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 1: meet up for a date with a woman. She thinks 935 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm catfishing when I show up with my bald head, 936 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: but no one will swipe right if I show them 937 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 1: that I am balding. I feel frustrated. 938 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 3: Any advice, well, First off, I disagree that no one 939 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:31,879 Speaker 3: will swipe right. 940 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: Yes, I agree with you. 941 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,839 Speaker 3: So I think that if you love wearing a hat, 942 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 3: you feel like you look cute and hat, have some 943 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 3: hat pictures, but have some pictures where you're not wearing 944 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 3: a hat too, not to not to not catfish people, 945 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 3: but because that's what you look like. And there's gonna 946 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 3: be women that don't think that you're a little hotty hottie. 947 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 3: There's so many hot men with no hair. Yep, hello 948 00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:03,399 Speaker 3: Jason Statham, right the Rock Yeah, Stanley Tucci. Yeah, there's 949 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 3: a million guys with no I do not think for 950 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 3: one second that being bald makes you not attractive. There 951 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 3: are women out there that are definitely attracted to bald men, 952 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 3: So I say rocket. 953 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 1: I also like your idea of the meeting it halfway, 954 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 1: which is, if you think you look cute and a hat, 955 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 1: wear a hat in a couple of pictures. Right, Like, 956 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of pictures up there, and if 957 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,439 Speaker 1: you have to pick up, if you have to pick 958 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 1: one for your profile, then fine, pick the one that 959 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: you think is the cutest, but then add in some 960 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,320 Speaker 1: more where it's all. 961 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 3: Of you exactly. Yes, love that Matthew, You're gonna You're 962 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 3: gonna find the right person for you. 963 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 1: The wipe rights are coming. 964 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, the swipe rights are coming. Okay, very excited. We 965 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 3: have a bus male to less and I've been going 966 00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 3: to your singing coach. Just just these moments. Just kidding, Okay, Okay, 967 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 3: let's play it. This is from Parker, Hey. 968 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 4: Milan, Jessica. My name is Parker. First, I'm loving the pod. 969 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,839 Speaker 4: It's amazing. And second, I was just wondering if you'll 970 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,719 Speaker 4: have any you know, words of encouragement or advice on 971 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:20,439 Speaker 4: dealing with beauty standards, specifically postpartum era. I'm a new 972 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,759 Speaker 4: Ish mom. My daughter's almost seventeen months, and you know, 973 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,760 Speaker 4: I'm just always comparing myself to other moms on social 974 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 4: media or even just friends who just seem to kind 975 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 4: of bounce back quicker than I have, if that makes sense. 976 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 3: Anyways, I would just love you here to love to 977 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 3: hear your. 978 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,280 Speaker 4: Thoughts on this as some other mamas. All right, thanks, 979 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 4: I love you guys. 980 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: Bye. 981 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 3: I know I keep saying it. I love hearing the 982 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 3: cruise voice. 983 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah I do too, I love it. Oh my gosh, Parker, 984 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 1: I've been there and also congratulations. 985 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 3: Because you're a baby. 986 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 2: I know, seventeen months. That's cute. 987 00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 3: First off, seventeen months, you just say birth, it's seventeen months. 988 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 1: Be kind to yourself. Everybody is different. 989 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 3: Here's what I think. Do yourself a favor first of all, 990 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 3: and unfollow all the accounts that are like this is 991 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 3: me and two days after our baby and I have abs. 992 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 3: Just for now, Okay, you can always refollow them if 993 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 3: you love them. For now, we're gonna mute those accounts. 994 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 3: Find accounts that you feel are like more your vibe, 995 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 3: not making you feel like when you look at them, 996 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 3: and bring it. 997 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 2: Because I know that as. 998 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 3: Moms, we are scrolling through our phone and we're feeding 999 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 3: all these images into our brains and they don't. It 1000 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 3: doesn't help. So I think, just literally, like, I know 1001 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 3: it's hard to log off, So I'm not saying log off. 1002 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,840 Speaker 3: I'm saying, log off of those accounts and follow accounts 1003 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 3: that you feel are where more you're at. It's really 1004 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 3: hard to say, like, don't feel the pressure, because we 1005 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,360 Speaker 3: all feel that pressure. It's so annoying. I have to 1006 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,280 Speaker 3: say I did not bounce back. 1007 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,280 Speaker 1: So here's what I feel. I completely agree with Camilla. 1008 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 1: I think anybody that doesn't make you feel fantastic, you 1009 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 1: can absolutely mute. I do it all the time, and 1010 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 1: then I absolutely revisit it again and go back and 1011 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 1: go right back to it. But if it's hitting you 1012 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,360 Speaker 1: in a certain way for this period of time in 1013 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 1: your life, then so be it. So take a little 1014 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: pressure off yourself, and I don't know, you know, do 1015 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,479 Speaker 1: what you need to do and be with that little baby. 1016 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 1: It's the most important part. And a lot of times 1017 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 1: when you take your like the pressure off it, you'll 1018 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: get to where you want to get to a little easier. 1019 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 1: It's just like, sometimes this is too much pressure. 1020 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 3: Basically, long story short here, Ladies like you just did 1021 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 3: something incredible and I feel you. I there wasn't the 1022 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 3: bounce back never happened for me, and that's fine. I 1023 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 3: don't care. I've moved on, and I think that there 1024 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 3: are so many women listening that feel the exact same way. 1025 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 3: Didn't bounce back. You haven't jumped, you know, haven't regotten 1026 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 3: a six pack or found you know, didn't lose all 1027 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 3: the weight by you know, breastfeeding. You also hear that too, 1028 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 3: you lose all the weight by breast breastfeeding So I 1029 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 3: was on the couch breastfeeding, being like, wow, is this like, 1030 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 3: you know, me doing you know what? 1031 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 2: Is it CrossFit? 1032 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,880 Speaker 3: It's basically me doing CrossFit on the couch while I'm breastfeeding. 1033 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,919 Speaker 3: It was a lie for me. I didn't lose a 1034 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:19,840 Speaker 3: single pound breastfeeding. It's all good, you guys, it's all good. 1035 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,880 Speaker 3: I want the crew to know, you're can gorgeous. 1036 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 1: Agree. Agree. So I think that this was just a 1037 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 1: nice little, you know, catch up stroll down memory lane, 1038 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 1: an examination of how we were put together and what 1039 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 1: we what we come to aspire to. 1040 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 2: And I think that now. 1041 00:53:40,800 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 3: We can call it the end of the episode.