Speaker 1: Our two Sean Hannity Show to hold for you on
Speaker 1: numbers eight hundred and nine, Pool one Sean, if you
Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program. So we
Speaker 1: were in the Washington Swamp yesterday and I had a
Speaker 1: lot of time with the Vice President jd Vance. Part
Speaker 1: two will air tonight on Hannity. It has gone viral
Speaker 1: in so many different aspects, just different questions that I
Speaker 1: asked him that I guess people are very interested in.
Speaker 1: On the least of which was when I said, mister
Speaker 1: Vice President, what have you learned from President Trump talking
Speaker 1: about twenty twenty eight talking about his relationship with Marco Rubio.
Speaker 1: He said, nobody should think they're entitled to be the
Speaker 1: heir apparent to Donald Trump. And I body gave very
Speaker 1: good answers on this, but let's go to this interview.
Speaker 1: Part two will air tonight nine Eastern on Fox, also
Speaker 1: RFK Junior and Doctor Oz Tonight, Mis Vice President, great
Speaker 1: to see.
Speaker 2: Holl you welcome, good, appreciate how you doing it.
Speaker 3: And thanks for sitting out. Well, I guess we start
Speaker 3: with a little good news. Yeah, government is open, that's right, Okay,
Speaker 3: longest shutdown in history. Can you tell me what the
Speaker 3: point of all that was I.
Speaker 4: Wish that I knew, Sean, because here's what the Democrats
Speaker 4: actually accomplished. They caused a lot of stress for our troops.
Speaker 4: They made our traffic controllers.
Speaker 2: Not get paid.
Speaker 4: They caused a lot of flight cancelations. They had a
Speaker 4: lot of people thinking they weren't going to get their
Speaker 4: food benefits, all for literally nothing, Sean, because we could
Speaker 4: have struck this exact deal forty five days ago. In fact,
Speaker 4: we met with Hakeem Jeffreys and Chuck Schumer and said
Speaker 4: we will pass this exact deal.
Speaker 2: They said no.
Speaker 4: They put the American people through a ton of pain
Speaker 4: and suffering for nothing. And we knew this was going
Speaker 4: to happen, Sean. We knew the President of the United
Speaker 4: States said every single day. Eventually the Democrats are going
Speaker 4: to realize this is an absurd position. We've got to
Speaker 4: reopen the government.
Speaker 2: And that's what they did.
Speaker 3: As bad as it was getting, I'm trying to comprehend
Speaker 3: the thinking behind this. Except for eight Democrats in the
Speaker 3: Senate and six in the House, they wanted it to continue,
Speaker 3: and there's real palpable anger that it didn't con I
Speaker 3: think Chuck Schumer's cooked as a result, even though he
Speaker 3: did everything that is base on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let me say a couple of things.
Speaker 4: First of all, I do give a lot of credit
Speaker 4: for the moderate Democrats in the Senate.
Speaker 2: Who were with us from the very beginning, because if.
Speaker 4: You remember the original bill to keep the government open,
Speaker 4: before the shutdown even started, there were fifty two GOP
Speaker 4: senators three Democratic senators. They recognized where this was going,
Speaker 4: they recognized what was in the best inte of the country.
Speaker 4: But I think, Sean, there are so many far left
Speaker 4: people who run the Democratic Party Washington, d C. They
Speaker 4: just want to burn it down. They don't care if
Speaker 4: the troops don't get paid. They don't care if you
Speaker 4: cost billions of dollars of loss productivity. They don't care
Speaker 4: if you shut down the airline industry, which they were
Speaker 4: very close close to doing. They just want to get Trump,
Speaker 4: and they don't care if they have to burn the
Speaker 4: entire country down in order to get Trump.
Speaker 2: That's what they want to do.
Speaker 4: And I think that it shows how stupid that approaches politically,
Speaker 4: because normally you would expect the president of the United
Speaker 4: States to get blamed for a shutdown. The American people
Speaker 4: were smart enough to recognize that the Democrat were the
Speaker 4: ones who were sort of holding this hostage.
Speaker 2: They were saying that unless you.
Speaker 4: Give us everything that we want, unless you give us
Speaker 4: one point five trillion dollars of benefits healthcare for illegal aliens,
Speaker 4: we're going to destroy the country.
Speaker 2: We're going to keep the government shut down.
Speaker 4: And definitely, I think the President recognized eventually the American
Speaker 4: people are going to recognize this is the Democrats doing this.
Speaker 2: The Democrats, I think, made.
Speaker 4: A huge political mistake by continuing to push for all
Speaker 4: of these crazy things, and they said, if you don't
Speaker 4: give all these crazy things, we're going to keep the
Speaker 4: government shut down. It was politically stupid, but you're right.
Speaker 4: I don't understand the psychology of a Democrat who says
Speaker 4: we'd like to burn the country down in order to
Speaker 4: get Donald Trump. But unfortunately, it just drives home that's
Speaker 4: what their party is about.
Speaker 2: That was the thing.
Speaker 3: One point five trillion, hundreds of billions of dollars for
Speaker 3: health care for illegals, DEI programs are broad MPR PBS
Speaker 3: to fund them once.
Speaker 2: Again, and that's the hell you want to die on.
Speaker 3: During the process that any point did any Democrat any leader.
Speaker 3: Did you have conversations with them, say work.
Speaker 2: This out with me.
Speaker 3: Did that happen behind the scenes that nobody knows about.
Speaker 4: Oh, of course, privately, we were having conversations all the time.
Speaker 4: And frankly, privately the Democrats would recognize the position of
Speaker 4: their far left was crazy. But they all feel a
Speaker 4: little bit like they're being held hostage by their far left.
Speaker 4: You said it very well, Chuck Schumer. This probably ended
Speaker 4: his career, and he was the person who was fighting
Speaker 4: more than anybody to keep the government shut down. So
Speaker 4: the far left, they're never going to be satisfied unless
Speaker 4: the Democrats are willing to burn down the entire country. Luckily,
Speaker 4: there were a few moderate Democrats who allowed reason to prevail.
Speaker 4: We have to step back and sewan and remember how
Speaker 4: crazy the demands were. They wanted one point five trillion dollars,
Speaker 4: a lot of that healthcare benefits for illegal aliens. They
Speaker 4: wanted us to undo all of the great border policy.
Speaker 2: That we've been doing.
Speaker 4: They wanted us to refund like you said, MPR and PBS,
Speaker 4: they were basically saying that we want the far left's
Speaker 4: priorities to dominate in the Trump administration. And unless that happens,
Speaker 4: we're going to set the entire country on fire. A
Speaker 4: really disgraceful moment for the far left of the Democrats,
Speaker 4: and frankly, a very revealing moment for the American people
Speaker 4: because they asked in Shawn. They weren't saying that we
Speaker 4: want to do great things for the American people. They
Speaker 4: weren't talking about jobs, they weren't talking about healthcare. They
Speaker 4: were talking about give us one point five trillion dollars
Speaker 4: for healthcare benefits for illegal aliens, and less you do that,
Speaker 4: we're going to make it impossible for you to fly
Speaker 4: home to see your family on Thanksgiving. It's just craziness
Speaker 4: that that was ever their position, but it was.
Speaker 2: When we get it back up and running fast, you.
Speaker 4: Know, it's going to take a little bit of time
Speaker 4: to get everything fully up and running. They actually brought
Speaker 4: the bill over to my house last night around nine
Speaker 4: o'clock to sign.
Speaker 2: It, because as the President of the Senate I had
Speaker 2: to sign it for the Senate.
Speaker 4: Mike Johnson signed it for the House, and then of
Speaker 4: course the President of United States had to sign it
Speaker 4: into law.
Speaker 2: Were eating bills from conversus basically, I mean the earleamentarian,
Speaker 2: the Senate parliamentarian was driving around in an ure, going
Speaker 2: from place to place to get this thing signed.
Speaker 4: But I actually I had this conversation with the President
Speaker 4: yesterday afternoon. I said, assuming the House is able to
Speaker 4: get this done, do you want to sign this tomorrow morning?
Speaker 4: He said, no, I want to sign it tonight because
Speaker 4: the only way to get the people's government turned back
Speaker 4: on as quickly as possible was to sign the bill
Speaker 4: as quickly as possible. But you know it goes to
Speaker 4: show the entire time the President, the entire administration, we
Speaker 4: were focused on getting the government turned back on, getting
Speaker 4: critical services actually funded so the government could function for
Speaker 4: the American people. That Democrats were focused on. We want
Speaker 4: to take you hostage. We want to make it hard
Speaker 4: for you to get home to see your family on
Speaker 4: Thanksgiving so that we can give your health care benefits
Speaker 4: to illegal aliens. What an incredible juxtaposition of priorities. We
Speaker 4: care about Americans, they care about illegal aliens.
Speaker 2: That's been true for years.
Speaker 4: They made it super clear with this government shutdown fight.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about Obviously, the economy is always front and
Speaker 3: center for most American would argue that foundationally everything set
Speaker 3: trillions and dollars of committed moneyes for manufacturing largest tax.
Speaker 2: Cuts in history. It took a long quite a.
Speaker 3: While, over a year and a half for the Reagan
Speaker 3: tax cuts to kick in. Ended up with twenty one
Speaker 3: million new jobs, longest period peacetime economic growth.
Speaker 2: President Trump now has.
Speaker 3: Given us the largest tax cut in history, no tax tips,
Speaker 3: social Security over time, then you add the energy component.
Speaker 3: So for people now that maybe are still suffering from
Speaker 3: the Biden Harris economic hangover, when do we really see
Speaker 3: the engine of the economy start to take off.
Speaker 4: Well, some of it's already started on, but some of
Speaker 4: it is going to take a long time because we
Speaker 4: inherited a disaster. We inherited the highest peacetime debt and
Speaker 4: deficits in the history of the United States of America.
Speaker 4: We inherited the worst inflation crisis in at least the
Speaker 4: last forty years and I.
Speaker 2: Think probably longer. So a lot of Americans when we
Speaker 2: took over, they were struggling.
Speaker 4: They either were underemployed or they didn't have a job altogether.
Speaker 4: Their wages had been stagnant. And the President of the
Speaker 4: United States said, the most important thing that we have
Speaker 4: to fix is for people to be able to live
Speaker 4: a good life.
Speaker 2: We need a good job to pay good wages.
Speaker 4: We need people to be able to go to the
Speaker 4: grocery store and actually buy what they need for their family.
Speaker 4: That takes a little bit of time. And I know
Speaker 4: that there are a lot of people out there, Sean
Speaker 4: who are saying things are expensive, and we have to
Speaker 4: remember they're expensive because we inherited this terrible inflation crisis
Speaker 4: from the Biden administration. But you've already seen signs that
Speaker 4: things are getting better. The price of eggs has gone
Speaker 4: way down. The price of energy has gone way down,
Speaker 4: the price of gasoline has gone way down. And as
Speaker 4: we know, when the price of energy goes down, that
Speaker 4: starts to filter out into the entire economy. But that
Speaker 4: also takes a little bit of time. There's another component
Speaker 4: of this, Sean, which to me is maybe the most important,
Speaker 4: because I care so much about our young people being
Speaker 4: able to afford a good life. A lot of young
Speaker 4: people are saying housing is way too expensive.
Speaker 2: Why is that?
Speaker 4: Because we flooded the country with thirty million illegal immigrants
Speaker 4: who were taking houses that ought by right go to
Speaker 4: American citizens, And at the same time, we weren't building
Speaker 4: enough new houses to begin with, even for the population
Speaker 4: that we had. So what we're doing is trying to
Speaker 4: make it easier to build houses, trying to make it
Speaker 4: easier to build factories and things like that so.
Speaker 2: That people have good jobs.
Speaker 4: We're also getting all of those illegal aliens out of
Speaker 4: our country, and you're already seeing it start to pay
Speaker 4: some dividends. Let me give you a very clear statistical example.
Speaker 4: Under the Biden administration, the price of a new home
Speaker 4: literally doubled.
Speaker 2: In four years. It went up one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: Under the Trump administration, housing and rent prices are up
Speaker 4: about one to two percent. That's actually in line with
Speaker 4: what you would like to see. So again, we inherited
Speaker 4: a disaster. We're very mindful of the fact that there's
Speaker 4: a lot of work to do, but I think that
Speaker 4: we've made great progress.
Speaker 2: And the final point I'll make about that, Sean, is.
Speaker 4: The most important way to fix this affordability crisis is
Speaker 4: to make people's wages go up.
Speaker 2: And that is where the Trump economy.
Speaker 4: I think, just objectively, obviously I'm very biased, but I
Speaker 4: think objectively.
Speaker 2: Is doing better than any economy in fifty or sixty years.
Speaker 4: Blue collar wages are going up. Working people's wages, middle
Speaker 4: class wages.
Speaker 2: Are going up.
Speaker 4: And that's how we ultimately chip away at the Biden
Speaker 4: affordability crisis, is that we make an economy where people
Speaker 4: can afford to buy the things that they need. The
Speaker 4: best way to do that is good jobs and good wages,
Speaker 4: and that's why the president's focus is where it is.
Speaker 3: I want to see that manufacturing get online because those
Speaker 3: are high paying career jobs.
Speaker 2: They are you know, we are going to bring in house.
Speaker 3: We always imported, and we're relying on other countries for pharmaceuticals, semiconducted, chips,
Speaker 3: automobile manufacturing. The President negotiated out those deals. I want
Speaker 3: to see those jobs get online, hopefully sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2: It's right, Apple is going to spend.
Speaker 3: What five hundred billion dollars in Texas.
Speaker 4: They're going to spend at least five hundred million dollars
Speaker 4: in the United States, and that's just Apple. We've seen
Speaker 4: about eighteen trillion dollars of new capital commitment Sewan.
Speaker 2: That's to your point, those are good.
Speaker 4: That's whenever you're creating jobs, and nothing like that has
Speaker 4: ever happened in this country. If you go back to
Speaker 4: the Biden administration, a good year for the Biden administration
Speaker 4: was a few hundred billion dollars of investments. The president
Speaker 4: is getting trillions upon trillions of new investments. Now, of course,
Speaker 4: I'm mindful that people were suffering Sean because those factories
Speaker 4: don't get built overnight. These things actually take a little
Speaker 4: bit of time.
Speaker 2: But here's what's different from the Trump administration than Biden administration.
Speaker 2: The President is focused now.
Speaker 4: On getting people good jobs, getting people higher wages, and
Speaker 4: bringing down the cost of goods. We inherited a disaster.
Speaker 4: We've chipped away at a lot of that problem in
Speaker 4: ten months. But that's why you've got four year terms,
Speaker 4: because we're going to do a lot over the next
Speaker 4: three years three months to make sure that more people
Speaker 4: can afford a good life. They can afford to buy homes,
Speaker 4: young people can afford to start families, and we've actually
Speaker 4: got good jobs that put people on a career trajectory
Speaker 4: into stability. The biggest problem with the Biden economy wasn't
Speaker 4: even the affordability.
Speaker 2: That was the second biggest problem.
Speaker 4: The biggest problem with Biden economy is that people had
Speaker 4: the kind of.
Speaker 2: Jobs where they couldn't build a career out of it.
Speaker 4: They'd make fourteen fifteen dollars an hour with no promise
Speaker 4: of ever being able to make more. That is not
Speaker 4: how you build a middle class American dream. That's how
Speaker 4: you build debt servants. And that's what the American people
Speaker 4: were becoming under Joe Biden. It's so important that we
Speaker 4: stay the course, keep these economic policies going so that
Speaker 4: Americans can own a stake in their own future, build.
Speaker 2: The kind of life that every American deserves.
Speaker 3: Back to the home building part, it's interesting you wrote
Speaker 3: it a by you was obsessed.
Speaker 2: With AI as I am. I am okay, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm a grock guy. I'm a grock guy, grock GUYE okay, elon.
Speaker 2: I think it's the best. I think it's the best.
Speaker 2: It's also the least woke.
Speaker 4: I'm always asking myself if I ask an AI a question,
Speaker 4: is going to give me an ejectivevice throves it and
Speaker 4: puts it an extreme mode?
Speaker 2: Answer?
Speaker 3: Have you put it in an extreme mode just for
Speaker 3: kicks and giggles?
Speaker 2: It's a little oh if I have not? So on,
Speaker 2: I don't want the media to.
Speaker 3: Do you want to know, the neighborhood that Donald Trump
Speaker 3: grew up in, and the kind of language you probably
Speaker 3: heard every day.
Speaker 2: You put it in extreme mode, it's pretty funny. I
Speaker 2: could to all tuck like my grandmother and then yeah,
Speaker 2: we'd be in shape.
Speaker 3: Okay, So the housing shortage, the estimate is what between
Speaker 3: four and a half and six million homes were shy
Speaker 3: right now?
Speaker 2: For those numbers, yep, Okay.
Speaker 3: I met a guy that's building a company that seventy
Speaker 3: percent of a home can be built with robots at
Speaker 3: about two hundred dollars a square foot. Now, where I
Speaker 3: live in Florida, you're not getting any home anywhere near
Speaker 3: two hundred dollars a square foot.
Speaker 2: So will that be a factor? And then you have
Speaker 2: to think of, Okay, we're going to lose blue collar jobs.
Speaker 3: How do we transition people into the economy if they're
Speaker 3: going to lose those jobs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So a few things about that, Sean.
Speaker 4: First, we probably need to build about five million new homes,
Speaker 4: and if you look at the Red States, we're actually
Speaker 4: doing a very good job. One of the biggest challenges
Speaker 4: that we have in the housing market, aside from too
Speaker 4: many illegal aliens who are taking the houses, of American
Speaker 4: citizens is that in the Blue states, you're not.
Speaker 2: Building enough houses.
Speaker 4: So you go to California, why are so many people
Speaker 4: moving out of California?
Speaker 2: It's you know, yes, I have a guess, there's no
Speaker 2: no wa.
Speaker 3: Your friend gavenusm yeah, my friend gavenusum any. I mean
Speaker 3: maybe if they put water in fire hydrants and reservoirs.
Speaker 4: That might help, right, but they're not building houses. You
Speaker 4: look at those terrible fires that happened to Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: You have people who are still trying to get the
Speaker 4: permitting to rebuild their houses.
Speaker 2: This happens so long ago.
Speaker 4: So we've got to get our blue states to build
Speaker 4: enough houses for their citizens because our red states in
Speaker 4: the federal government is actually doing.
Speaker 2: A really good job. By the way.
Speaker 4: You know, the one of the biggest cities where you're
Speaker 4: seeing housing costs come down Austin, Texas, because they're choosing
Speaker 4: smart policies and they're building enough housing. Now on the
Speaker 4: AI issue, look, I understand why people are worried that.
Speaker 4: You know, if you have a robot doing that job,
Speaker 4: does a takeaway from a blue collar worker who.
Speaker 2: Can do that job.
Speaker 4: Right now, the evidence that I see is that if
Speaker 4: we really lean into robotics and technology. It's going to
Speaker 4: raise everybody's wages and make everybody better off.
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll take a break, we'll come back. We'll
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to my interview with the
Speaker 1: Vice President JD. Vans from last night. Part two of
Speaker 1: that interview will air tonight. Also, I had time to
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Speaker 1: pretty viral to this interview. But let me play part two.
Speaker 2: Of it for you.
Speaker 3: It's actually amazing because you'll see them. They'll do the framing,
Speaker 3: they'll put on the siding. They'll actually a robot will
Speaker 3: put on the roof.
Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy. It is crazy. They'll wire the.
Speaker 3: House, they put an insulation, they'll put up the wallboard,
Speaker 3: they'll paint the wallboard, and then the finished work in
Speaker 3: comes the craftsman. I'm not so sure that the AI
Speaker 3: is going to be able to do that, at least
Speaker 3: in the short term, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 4: I think a lot of the craftsmanship, a lot of
Speaker 4: the direction, a lot of the management, you're going to
Speaker 4: need a human being to do that. Nobody can replace.
Speaker 4: No robot can replace a great blue collar construction worker.
Speaker 4: You know, you see some of the houses, some of
Speaker 4: the things they do, the trim that they're able to do.
Speaker 4: There's an art there that I don't think a robot's
Speaker 4: ever going to be able to replace. But robot maybe
Speaker 4: make it easier for a construction worker to put more
Speaker 4: nails and more walls over a shorter period.
Speaker 2: Of time some of the road things. In other words,
Speaker 2: you're going to see.
Speaker 4: I think robotics help the construction workers, and I think
Speaker 4: that's going to lead to higher wages.
Speaker 2: And it's also going to lead to more homes.
Speaker 3: Firms are will love it and think a build the
Speaker 3: one big beautiful ballroom faster.
Speaker 2: The robot could do it faster.
Speaker 3: I think he'd hire the robot because I know that's
Speaker 3: obviously important.
Speaker 4: Well, but this is an interesting point, though, Sean, because
Speaker 4: if you go back to it to you know, there
Speaker 4: really are, I think, two different models of how you
Speaker 4: make people more productive, of how you create economic growth,
Speaker 4: of how you make people better off. The Democrat model
Speaker 4: was import low wage immigrants, and I really do think
Speaker 4: that hurt the jobs of our construction workers, that hurt
Speaker 4: the wages of a lot of our blue collar workers.
Speaker 4: But their idea was the way that we get more
Speaker 4: prosperity is that you import more and more low wage servants,
Speaker 4: and that actually, I think reduced prosperity because it meant
Speaker 4: that a lot of our blue collar workers were struggling.
Speaker 4: But if you use technology, you empower the blue collar
Speaker 4: workers rather than replace them with foreign labor. I think
Speaker 4: they're going to do way better. They're going to make
Speaker 4: higher wages, and the whole country is going to be
Speaker 4: better off. In other words, do you depend on low
Speaker 4: wage immigrants or do you depend on American citizens bolstered.
Speaker 2: By technology and innovation.
Speaker 4: That's the Trump model, and I think that's the model
Speaker 4: that's going to deliver long term prosperity for this country.
Speaker 3: You first become the vice president and I had my
Speaker 3: well first I interviewed you at the convention.
Speaker 2: Very first interview I did as a VPN first.
Speaker 3: Interview, thank you, And we had an interview right after
Speaker 3: you got sworn in.
Speaker 2: You're almost on the job a full year. Tell me
Speaker 2: about the job, and by definition you have to be
Speaker 2: ready at a God.
Speaker 3: Forbid moment's notice. Sure, I think that's a heavy weight
Speaker 3: to put.
Speaker 2: On anybody's shoulders.
Speaker 3: Obviously, if you obsess about it, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think that'd be healthy.
Speaker 3: You seem to go with the flow pretty well. Do
Speaker 3: you have quiet moments you think about that?
Speaker 4: Honestly, Sean, I try not to. I mean, one, I
Speaker 4: serve under Donald Trump, who is very healthy. He has
Speaker 4: a big shadow. But if I served under Joe Biden,
Speaker 4: I'd probably be worried every minute of every day that
Speaker 4: he was going to croak and then I'd.
Speaker 2: Have to become president.
Speaker 4: But because I serve a president, okay, and it just
Speaker 4: happened like I'd never been able to sleep, I'd always
Speaker 4: have my cell phone as loud as possible. But no,
Speaker 4: the president one, you know, he's got a lot of energy,
Speaker 4: is extremely healthy, So I don't think about that.
Speaker 2: Obviously.
Speaker 4: That's part of the job is you've got to be
Speaker 4: ready if tragedy strikes. But the thing that I try
Speaker 4: to do, Sean is I just try to be as
Speaker 4: much of a force multiplier for.
Speaker 2: The President and the whole administration.
Speaker 4: You know, if the President needs to talk to ten
Speaker 4: people in Congress, he can only make five of those
Speaker 4: phone calls, I can make the other five. If the
Speaker 4: President needs to meet with a business leader but he
Speaker 4: can't meet with him because he's meeting with somebody else,
Speaker 4: then I.
Speaker 2: Can meet with that person. If the President needs.
Speaker 4: Somebody to go visit a factory, he can't do it
Speaker 4: for one reason or another, then I go and do that.
Speaker 4: And what I try to think is so long as
Speaker 4: the President trust me, and so long as I'm loyal
Speaker 4: to the president in return, then he can just have
Speaker 4: me go and do something and not worry about whether
Speaker 4: it's going to get done, not worry about whether somebody
Speaker 4: is going to.
Speaker 2: Blab to the media about it.
Speaker 4: That's the way that I try to approach this job
Speaker 4: is the best use of my time is to be
Speaker 4: a force multiplier for him in the administration. That's what
Speaker 4: I've tried to do. I think that it's worked out
Speaker 4: really well so far. But part of that is also
Speaker 4: the president you serve under. When you talk to people
Speaker 4: about the job of vice president, it can either be
Speaker 4: a really high impact job, a real partnership with the presidency,
Speaker 4: or it can be a job where you sit around
Speaker 4: and hope the phone doesn't ring. And because the President
Speaker 4: trusts me, and because of the way that he does
Speaker 4: his job, he's made it possible for me to be
Speaker 4: very involved in the business of running the country, that's
Speaker 4: an awesome thing. It's an exciting thing. I pinch myself
Speaker 4: every day. I mean, look where we are, this beautiful room,
Speaker 4: and I try to remember that it's a great honor
Speaker 4: and a great blessing to serve and I just try
Speaker 4: to do the job that I can every day.
Speaker 3: The last place my parents ever thought I'd be just visiting.
Speaker 3: What if you learned from President Trump, I mean, he
Speaker 3: is a force of nature.
Speaker 2: He is I'm not inserting yours. Whatever you learn from him,
Speaker 2: You know a few things.
Speaker 4: Number One, the President is amazing at compartmentalizing things.
Speaker 2: When something is going on, there's always a crisis.
Speaker 4: The very best day in the West Wing, there's at
Speaker 4: least one crisis somewhere in the world that somebody's putting
Speaker 4: your desk. The President has an incredible ability to sort
Speaker 4: of say, Okay, focus on that for fifteen minutes and
Speaker 4: then go and focus on something totally different for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2: That's not naturally how I am.
Speaker 4: If something bad is going on, I tend to want
Speaker 4: to think about that thing and solve that problem before
Speaker 4: I go on to something else. The President is incredible
Speaker 4: at that compartmentalization. I think it's one of the reasons
Speaker 4: why he can handle ten different problems at once is
Speaker 4: because he's able to troubleshoot and then move on to
Speaker 4: the next thing, troubleshoot and move on to the next thing.
Speaker 4: The second thing that I've learned from the President sean,
Speaker 4: and I've tried to absorb it as much as I can,
Speaker 4: and I think some of this is just who he
Speaker 4: is in his natural instincts, is he has better instincts
Speaker 4: about human beings than anybody that I've ever met.
Speaker 2: And again, the President of the United States.
Speaker 4: You think about this, You can't read every briefing in
Speaker 4: every detail about every single topic.
Speaker 2: One hundred different things are coming into.
Speaker 4: The Oval Office every hour, right, So part of it
Speaker 4: is you've got to be able to trust the people
Speaker 4: around you to delegate and to execute.
Speaker 2: But to have that trust for people, you've got to
Speaker 2: have very very good instincts.
Speaker 4: And the President has an amazing ability to know when
Speaker 4: somebody's trying to get something over on them, when somebody's
Speaker 4: actually thinking about things in the best interests of the country.
Speaker 4: It's almost a supernatural ability to read human beings. And
Speaker 4: I've tried to learn as much as I can about it.
Speaker 4: And again, some of that is just his inateability. Some
Speaker 4: of that is something that I think that you can
Speaker 4: pick up, and I've tried to pick that up as
Speaker 4: much as I can, because it's amazing.
Speaker 2: Sean. Let me give you example.
Speaker 4: There was a time where there was a meeting that
Speaker 4: I couldn't go to again because I had I think
Speaker 4: I had to be on Capitol Hill related to a big,
Speaker 4: beautiful bill, and I was really worried that I wouldn't
Speaker 4: be in the meeting because I knew what the people
Speaker 4: in the meeting were going to say, and I was
Speaker 4: worried that I couldn't push back against it. And I
Speaker 4: remember talking to the President about it later, and he
Speaker 4: knew exactly what they were going to say he knew
Speaker 4: exactly what their angle was, he knew exactly what their
Speaker 4: motivation was, and he just he reads people and tries
Speaker 4: to use you know, it's almost he's able to use
Speaker 4: people's own motivations to figure out whether they're trying to
Speaker 4: get something that's good for America or whether they're trying
Speaker 4: to get something that's good for them. And obviously, if
Speaker 4: it's good for America, he's all on board. If it's
Speaker 4: just good for them, he's going to be a little
Speaker 4: bit more skeptical. But that capacity to figure that out,
Speaker 4: I think it's why he's such an effective leader and
Speaker 4: why he's such a good president.
Speaker 3: To be able to compartmentalize as a skill, to have
Speaker 3: a discernment also, I think as a gift, sure, And
Speaker 3: I kind of feel like a lot of my life
Speaker 3: I had the ability to read people very well.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it served me my life.
Speaker 4: See, I think that I have that ability to but
Speaker 4: I think the President takes it up to a totally
Speaker 4: different level. His discernment is really remarking.
Speaker 3: The energy level is beyond I mean, I went on
Speaker 3: the golf trip with him, seventeen hours there, seventeen hours back,
Speaker 3: and he's awake.
Speaker 2: The whole time. It's unexpects you to be awake.
Speaker 4: Well, it's unbelievable. It's actually I joke with some of
Speaker 4: the cabinet because the President I can't travel together. That's
Speaker 4: one of the things. Never on the same airplane. And
Speaker 4: they're always like you say like that. I always say,
Speaker 4: you're so lucky because if we go on a twenty
Speaker 4: hour trip somewhere, he doesn't sleep the entire time. And
Speaker 4: of course if he's not sleeping, if he's working, he
Speaker 4: expects everybody else to be working to So again, the
Speaker 4: energy that the guy has really is off the charts.
Speaker 2: But again, you've.
Speaker 4: Got to have that level of energy to do this
Speaker 4: job successfully. For all of Biden's problems and all the
Speaker 4: policy disagreements that I have with the Biden administration, I
Speaker 4: really do wonder was Biden able to stay on top?
Speaker 4: Did he have the physical and mental ability to stay
Speaker 4: on top of everything that comes through is I can answer?
Speaker 4: The answer is no, of course not. And that's the
Speaker 4: one thing that agreer disagree with President Trump about it.
Speaker 4: Given issue, every Democrat and every Republican I think, deep
Speaker 4: down would recognize this is a guy who has the
Speaker 4: energy to do the job. That's a very very rare thing.
Speaker 4: But that's who you should be electing president United States.
Speaker 4: Somebody's got the energy for it.
Speaker 3: I'm not asking you to answer this question, but I
Speaker 3: am giving you a preview of coming attractions. Hopefully I'll
Speaker 3: be back a year from now. And there is no
Speaker 3: avoiding the question, okay, because we will have just gotten
Speaker 3: through the midterms. Sure, two days after the midterms we
Speaker 3: get into cycle, meaning twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2: Of course, war have you thought at all? I mean,
Speaker 2: I would think it has to go through your head.
Speaker 2: You're in the Oval office every day.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you know the times that I've been there
Speaker 3: to visit and they throw me out.
Speaker 2: Is you know I pinched myself.
Speaker 3: I never thought as a kid growing you know, my
Speaker 3: mom was a prison guard, my dad a waiter, and
Speaker 3: a family corporation guy. I'd ever been in that building. Right,
Speaker 3: an amazing country is an amazing country. So many made
Speaker 3: a mistake. But in all seriousness, this is coming fast.
Speaker 4: Sure, Sure, thinking about it all, I would say that
Speaker 4: I thought about what that moment might look like after
Speaker 4: the midterm elections.
Speaker 2: Sure, But I also.
Speaker 4: Whenever I think about that, I try to put it
Speaker 4: out of my head and remind myself. The American people
Speaker 4: elected me to do a job right now, and my
Speaker 4: job is to do it. And if you start getting
Speaker 4: distracted and focused on what comes next, I think it
Speaker 4: actually makes you worse of the job that you have.
Speaker 2: And here's what will happen. I mean, look, we're very
Speaker 2: focused on the midterm elections.
Speaker 4: I think because what the President has set in motion
Speaker 4: is a long term economic revitalization effort for this country.
Speaker 4: I really want us to win the midterms because of
Speaker 4: the Democrats get in power, they're going to try to
Speaker 4: screw up a lot of the great things the President
Speaker 4: of the United States has done over the past ten months. Again,
Speaker 4: trees that have been planted, some of which won't even
Speaker 4: bear fruit for a few years. I don't want the
Speaker 4: Democrats to screw that up. So we're gonna win the midterms.
Speaker 2: We're gonna do everything that we can to win the midterms,
Speaker 2: and then after that I'm gonna sit down with the
Speaker 2: President of the United States and talk to him about it.
Speaker 2: But let's focus on the now, because we've got well
Speaker 2: over a year to do as much as we can
Speaker 2: for the American people. And my attitude, Sean is, Look,
Speaker 2: if we do a good job, the politics will take
Speaker 2: care of itself.
Speaker 4: If we do a terrible job, the politics will take
Speaker 4: care of itself in the other direction.
Speaker 2: So I'm just going to focus on the job that
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 3: I found a really interesting and actually intriguing comment that
Speaker 3: you made saying that Marco Rubio is your best friend
Speaker 3: in the administration.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And by the way, some.
Speaker 3: People I would think would naturally think, well, maybe they
Speaker 3: might eventually one day be rivals. I didn't get that
Speaker 3: impression at all in your comment.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't feel like that at all.
Speaker 4: And I mean, look, if Marko eventually runs for president,
Speaker 4: then that's that's that.
Speaker 2: We can cross that bridge when we come to it.
Speaker 2: But one look, if you get to out Trump one
Speaker 2: to design the next ticket, I know this. I know
Speaker 2: I don't take control of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, but people have asked me, well,
Speaker 4: do you see Marco as a arrival?
Speaker 2: First of all, if if either one of us end
Speaker 2: up running, it's a long ways.
Speaker 4: In the future and neither of us is entitled to it.
Speaker 4: So I think it would be ridiculous for me to say, well,
Speaker 4: Marco's arrival, No, no, No, Mark is a colleague. The
Speaker 4: preside the United States has asked each of us to
Speaker 4: do two very important jobs, and that's what we should
Speaker 4: focus on. And this, when I say that Marco is
Speaker 4: my best friend, that's no insult to anybody else in
Speaker 4: the administration, because you know, when I came into the Senate,
Speaker 4: Marco was a bit of a mentor to me.
Speaker 2: He's one of the younger guys in the Senate. He's got,
Speaker 2: you know, by the standards of Washington, he still has
Speaker 2: a young family.
Speaker 4: He's got kids who are in law school, in college,
Speaker 4: and so there's just a lot of commonality that we have.
Speaker 4: We're both people of very strong faith, and our wives
Speaker 4: get along.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 4: It's just he's a good guy, and I like come
Speaker 4: to work with him, and I like talking to him
Speaker 4: about the things that confront the administration, confront the president.
Speaker 4: But let me just say one other thing about this.
Speaker 4: Here's why the presidential focus the twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Eight folks I think is bad.
Speaker 4: Is because if you wake up in my job or
Speaker 4: anybody else's job, asking yourself what's good for my future
Speaker 4: a few years down the road, you're not going to
Speaker 4: do a good.
Speaker 2: Job right now.
Speaker 4: The question that I try to ask myself is what
Speaker 4: is good for the President, the administration, and the American
Speaker 4: people right now.
Speaker 2: That's what I have to be focused on. And I
Speaker 2: think so long as I do that, again, politics take
Speaker 2: care of itself. I think it's a good message for everybody. Honestly,
Speaker 2: do your job.
Speaker 3: You think about something else, do your job, do your
Speaker 3: job that day. I think that's a good message for everybody.
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