1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, Paul Kalbisi joins me, 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: we focus on the wide receiver position, specifically what clip 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: King Thury has learned about the position over his first 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: three seasons as a head coach in the NFL. But 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: first right guard is settled, at least in my opinion. 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, episode five seventy seven, and it 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two, hitting the backfield 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: and Downey goes for a loss. J J. Watt Nailed 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: at Cardinals. Cover two is presented by Hun Day, proud 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: Visit acy Cardinals dot com, Slash podcasts. He's at the 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: ten half of five. He's in again, so for Harry Magic. WHOA, 13 00:00:52,320 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 1: here's Craig Grieloup. So as we wait Holly Pigskins breakout 14 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: player of camp. As we're into week two now, Paul, 15 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: I'm going to announce my favorite player here in camp 16 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: in week two and give you some time to give 17 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: your breakout player of Camp. But my favorite player so far, 18 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: based off what I've seen, what I've heard, Number seventy six, 19 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: Will Hernandez He has quickly become my fan favorites. Met 20 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: him once when he was signed in the offseason, but 21 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: anytime you, I wouldn't say you pick a fight, because 22 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: he wasn't really a pick a fight, but you stand 23 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: up to J. J. Watt and then literally not move 24 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: an inch backwards. Yeah, he's quickly become a favorite, and 25 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: I think right now I'm going to put him in 26 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: ink as your starting right card. It's not often that 27 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: I asked Wolf to actually tell one of his stories. Okay, 28 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: usually he just does it anyway, but his famous story 29 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: of where his big Brotherhoo, had already spent five years 30 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: in the league with the Steelers, told him, as a 31 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: rookie going to camp, shut your mouth, respect everyone, and 32 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: pick a fight with the toughest guy on the team. 33 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: That's exactly what Will Hernandez did, did he not? He 34 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: went after number ninety nine. I think he got everyone's 35 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: respect for that. Very interesting on a couple accounts. Number one, 36 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: I Calvaca Consulting. We're thinking of a new T shirt. 37 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: If you ever been to the Midwest, there's a popular 38 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: T shirts Detroit against everybody, Cleveland against everybody. How about 39 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: Will versus everybody We've seen him in multiple fights, and 40 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: not necessarily a fight, okay, I mean right skirmish, you know, 41 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: getting fights. Heal rooting in a tuning without the womping 42 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: and a stomping and some glorified shoving. We all get it, okay. 43 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: But it does set a mentality. It does give everyone 44 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: a sense of what he's all about. Anytime an old 45 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: line can get more physical, especially in a division than 46 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: includes Aaron Donald and gree I've said this before and 47 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: I'll say it again. Right guard was a liability last year. 48 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: That wasn't a want, that was a need, and too 49 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: often the quarterback lost confidence in that position too often, 50 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: at least from my eyes down on the sideline, he 51 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: took his eyes off the secondary and off the opposing 52 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: defense and had half an eye on the right side 53 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: of the offensive line, wondering if he was going to 54 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: get his helmet torn off. And so that's a big 55 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: deal to me if you can solidify that, because we 56 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: know that quarterback in the NFL is number one well 57 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: one B is offensive line because you can have a 58 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: lot of talent, a lot of weapons surrounding your quarterback, 59 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: but if he has no time to operate, especially when 60 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: he's five foot ten, and especially when an online might 61 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: be prone to interior pressure that collapses the pocket from 62 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: inside out and gets in his face. It's just very important, 63 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: hopefully for the Arizona Cardinal's sake. Will Hernandez is that 64 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: answer six three three thirty two. And I don't know 65 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: if it's respect or a lack thereof the video that 66 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 1: fellow offensive lineman Calvin Beacham posted on Twitter on Thursday 67 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: on how many offensive lineman can fit in an suv? 68 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: And you've got beat him doing the video. Rodney Hudson 69 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: is the driver, and then in the middle it's DJ Humphries, 70 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: Justin Pugh and Sean Harlowe and then in the way 71 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: back the way way back is Will Hernandez. Now is 72 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: at a respect thing because he needs more room and 73 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: he's the only one in the way way back, or 74 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: it's like, oh you're the new guy, you go in 75 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: the way back. I don't know where I fall on that. 76 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: He did have a smile on his face, but I'll 77 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: say this, Will Hernandez, Yes, put me on the president 78 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: of the Will Hernandez fan club. He is square. There's 79 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean, you know, I'm not sure if 80 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: he's going to fit in a coach seat left or right, 81 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: you know, on a seven thirty seven, so he might 82 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: need his own row in an suv. You're absolutely right, 83 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good theory. The new guy. You know, 84 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: he's also pretty nimble, right, he's as a pulling guard. 85 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: And so if anybody's able to go ahead and climb 86 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: over a couple rows and get into the very back. 87 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: You know the other thing, right, how did he get back? 88 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: There was there an extra door? Did he go through 89 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: the back? I mean, he is the shortest of the crew, 90 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: and believe me, life is the shortest guy in the room. 91 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: Usually you're stuffed into the way back because you know 92 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about headroom in that area 93 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: of the car, and so boom, Will Hernandez, you're the guy. 94 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: I am looking forward to your reports next week when 95 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: you head to Cincinnati, and I'm anxious to know who 96 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 1: is sitting next to or if there's no one sitting 97 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: next to Will Hernandez on the team play the seats 98 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: wide enough? Does he have enough elbow room? If you will, 99 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the armrest will be up. You know, 100 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: that's what old lineman do they come in and they 101 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: take a couple of seats and the armrest comes up. 102 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: And way back in the day when I used to 103 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: work at Channel five, and this is going back like 104 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: twenty five years, and on the way home from games, 105 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: and they would put the media in the way way 106 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: back literally the last couple of rows. There was an 107 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: offensive lineman back in the time, and he would come 108 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: over and he'd go, paul a pencil neck, and he'd 109 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: shoved me from the aisle up against the window and 110 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: he'd sit down and he'd say, I got ice my knee, 111 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: and he put an ice bag on his knee and 112 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: the bag might have contained a couple of cold beverages 113 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: in a can. Let's just put it that way after 114 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: a long game, And that was his definition of icing 115 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: his knee as he took up about three quarters of 116 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: the row that I was sitting in. Cardinals Covered two 117 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: presented by Hyunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, as 118 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: we come to you from State Farm Stadium at his 119 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: Cardinals training camp powered by Cox, and we've got the 120 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: Red and White practice coming up on Saturday. So with 121 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: that in mind, certainly, head coach Cliff Kingsbury had a 122 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: lot of players not on the field on Friday. He 123 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that there were enough players and 124 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: really go all out for Saturday. So we came this 125 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: close burd Gang to Paul and myself actually either lining 126 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: up as a wide receiver or a cornerback because the 127 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: list between injured players and vet days off took up 128 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: basically the entire sheet of paper here that I have 129 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: in front of me. It was I'll say this, it 130 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: did give an opportunity for other players, those second and 131 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: third teams to get some valuable reps. But there was 132 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: a lot of standing around, a lot of players just 133 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: not doing anything on Friday. I mean, I'll give you 134 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: an example, a guy like a Bernhard Psychovitz right International 135 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: Player program, and a guy who was like ninety first 136 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: on the roster a year ago at this time because 137 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: you get an exemption for that roster spot. He was 138 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: running with the first team at tight end at times, 139 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: and we're talking about a loaded tight end room. Thing is, 140 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: none of them were on the field, with the exception 141 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: of maybe a Steven Anderson, who, by the way, he 142 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: makes the short list of guys who have made an impression. 143 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: Who's having guys off the radar a little bit who 144 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: are having a really good camp. Eighty nine. I would 145 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: say Zeke Turner is another guy who's taken advantage of reps. 146 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: He looks good coming off an injury marred last season. 147 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: There are other guys out there like a Victor Dimukeje 148 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: who in year two, I know he's gotten the eyes 149 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: some of these coaches talking to people on the sideline. 150 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: But you're right the Friday practice, I mean, Greelo, how 151 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: long does cover Duke go? You don't have time to 152 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: go through all the names who are not practicing That 153 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: practice on Friday would be akin to the fourth quarter 154 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: of a preseason game. That was basically the caliber and 155 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: name for the most part you saw out there. Although 156 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: like the Will Hernandez is the world, he was out there, 157 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: A Baker was out there, But fourth fifths of the 158 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: starting offensive line wasn't out there. Most of your starting 159 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: defensive line wasn't out there. So look, if you can't 160 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: make an impression as a guy trying to make the 161 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: team in a setting like that, then you probably have 162 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: no chance. That that really was an opportunity for literally 163 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: the sixth, seventh, and eight string running backs to get 164 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: reps and catch passes out of the backfield, Guys like 165 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: a Ronnie Rivers or a TJ. Pledger. I mean, just 166 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: names way off. But if you can go out there 167 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: and catch someone's eye, make someone miss, make a play, 168 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: put it on film. Those are the These are the 169 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: kind of days those guys live for. I Andy, but 170 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: number one wide receiver on the field on Friday. Just 171 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: to add that to and he made some plays, Yeah 172 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: she did. He's gonna have to do it obviously in 173 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: these preseason games. And I'm guessing we're gonna see a 174 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: lot in number seventeen as a former second round pick 175 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: who still has all the speed and athleticism. But can 176 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: he make catches? Can he make plays? Can he be 177 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: a difference maker? Can he do it in traffic? Can 178 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: he do it against press coverage? There are a lot 179 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: of questions still out there. And considering the way that 180 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: this receiver room is tracking right now, you would figure 181 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: the Andy Isabelle's of the world are You're gonna a 182 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: lot of snaps a week from this time in Cincinnati, 183 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: And you know what, great think about him. We're a 184 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: week away from the preseason opener. We're five weeks away 185 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: from Kansas City and regular season week one. Let that 186 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: hang for a moment, so you have that it's still 187 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: a long way to go, and then you think about 188 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: how the Cardinals have started under Cliff Kingsbury and we 189 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: can come out here and we could have a hot 190 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: take and get all sawed off and worked up, and 191 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: he oh boy, you know some of the regulars aren't. 192 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: Guess what, there's a track record from this coaching staff 193 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: and this head coach of having a team ready to 194 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: ball week one. Look at last year. There was a 195 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: lot of noise out there about our guys getting enough 196 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: reps in these preseason games. How many snaps did the 197 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: first team offense get last preseason for example? Right, that 198 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: was a big narrative. Got a lot of role raised 199 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: my hand. Paul I was one of those people that 200 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: were saying, hey, I need to see more at an 201 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: ex player, I needed to see more out of this offense. 202 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: What are they doing? And we were waiting until Week one, 203 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, seven games later, they're undefeated. 204 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: And what happened in Week one at Nashville? Oh yeah, 205 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: that was a big surprise. It was it was the 206 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: Cardinals absolutely dominated. They were the more physical team, they 207 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: were the more prepared team, and then afterwards Cliff Kingsbury 208 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: let it be known then maybe there's a little too 209 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: much consternation over the preseason guys. So I think, and 210 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: I put myself at the top of this list. You 211 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: gotta pace yourself. You gotta gauge your reaction overreaction. Dare 212 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: I say if certain guys aren't practicing, it doesn't matter 213 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: as soon as you get to September when it comes 214 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: to your starters, especially at least the top thirty to 215 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: forty guys in your roster, just doesn't matter. It only 216 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: matters you're ready to go when they kick this thing 217 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: off on September eleventh. Justin Pugh on Thursday, quote, we 218 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: get paid play on Sundays. When he was asked about 219 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: vet days and specifically about Friday's pack practice, Kingsbury quote, 220 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 1: we want to be fresh for tomorrow again, the Red 221 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: White practice here at State Farm Stadium one thirty in 222 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: the afternoon. Go Daisy Cardinals dot com for more information. 223 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: But you bring up the wide receiver position And let 224 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: me just throw this note on zach Ertz because we 225 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: did get some good news. We hope it's good news. 226 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: Because Ertz again not on the practice field dealing with 227 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: that cafe issue, but not considered a long term concern 228 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: for the head coach. And we think, well, Kingsbury brought 229 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: it up. He's expecting ERTs to have a breakout season, 230 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: first full offseason in this system, first full season in 231 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: this offensive system. And we know what happened last year 232 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: in just ten games. It is remarkable. Here the head coach, 233 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: he was asked about breakout players this year, and he 234 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: names a Pro Bowl tight end and zach Ertz, right, 235 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: a guy who in how many games last year had 236 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: how many catches? And wasn't that the most catches by 237 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: Cardinals tight ends since I don't know the late nineties, 238 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: maybe Rob A Wald if I'm a remembering the stat right, 239 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: But he came out there. I think he had fifty 240 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: five grabs and basically half a season. A little beyond 241 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: that I think was the statin zach Ertz. So now 242 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: you extrapolate and you think about it. Okay, if he 243 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: was in there every day of this offseason, which is 244 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: the word, him and JJ Watt were workout warriors the 245 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: entire offseason. They were pushing each other and Watt talked 246 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: a little bit about that. You know, he lives in 247 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: town zach Ertz now with his wife and she's a 248 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: native and the whole thing. And so yeah, to think 249 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: about what he season that might be in store for 250 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: a zach Ertz in Cliff Kingsbury, he confirmed as much 251 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: third most targeted pass catcher last season, and that was 252 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: done in just eleven games. Think after he was acquired. Yeah, 253 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: and think about the receiving talent on this team, think 254 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: about I mean and just and Cliff Kingsbury keeps joking 255 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: about it, the headache he's gonna have when everyone is 256 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: healthy and are enough footballs and targets to go around. 257 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: Obviously it's a good problem to have. But then we 258 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: see Max Williams out there, and it really makes you wonder, 259 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: all right, if you have three above average tight ends, 260 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: and I say that, Look, we got to see Trey 261 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: McBride prove it in a regular season, but he held 262 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: his own in these against the outside linebackers and some 263 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: of these one on one drills and blocking full pads, 264 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: full contact. He really looked good and he realized why 265 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: they consider him a dual tight end. And he catches 266 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: the ball so easily. Trey McBride. You see the athleticism, 267 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: you see his natural pass catching abilities, soul. If indeed 268 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: you have three really viable tight ends, you wonder what 269 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: that means for this offense. How many do you play 270 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: at the same time? Are colleague Ron Wolfley expects twelve 271 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: personnel on the field. Dare I say? Who do we 272 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: see three tight ends on the field at one time? 273 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: There is going to be enough offensive firepower for Kyler 274 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: Murray to drop back and pick where he wants to 275 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: go wide receiver, tight end, running back, and yeah, there's 276 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: one football to be thrown, So there are going to 277 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: be a lot of upset players coming back to the sideline, 278 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: going back into the locker room, and Kingsbury kind of jokes. Yes, 279 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: I receive passive aggressive text. Now this was in relationship 280 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: to rondel More, who just doesn't say a whole heck 281 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: of a lot even to us, which I think I 282 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: love his attitude by the way, Rondel Moore, I'm a 283 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: big fan of his, but isn't express himself enough to 284 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: the head coach as far as targets and he will 285 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: get those. I'm not feeling this coach just and that's it. 286 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: Text messages but that's as we date ourselves, Paul. That's 287 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: how the players these days, that's how they communicate via 288 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: text messages and apparently late at night after he's had 289 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: some time to think about it after a game. There's 290 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: no doubt based on all the anecdotal information on the record, 291 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: by the way, from the receiver's coach, the head coach, 292 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: other players, that Rondelle Moore felt he was underutilized a 293 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: year ago. Okay, so let's see it now. Can you 294 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: make those catches down field? Can he be a playmaker 295 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: in space downfield? Shawn Jefferson raised about Rondelle Moore's complete 296 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: route tree. All right, but let's see. I mean, I 297 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: think the confidence level is pretty high, but he's got 298 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: to go out and prove it. And I'm with him. 299 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: He's quiet, but he has a quiet confidence about him. 300 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: There's an edge. Yes, he never wavers in his belief 301 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: that he can really be a standout player in this league. 302 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: And guess what, you need him minus Christian Kirk. Everybody 303 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: now he got Christian Kirk money, and you need a 304 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: Rondelle Moore in this offense. And it sounds like we're 305 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: going to see him inside. We're gonna see him outside 306 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: as opposed to Christian Kirk. Really we saw him mostly 307 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: inside a year ago. That's not going to be the 308 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: case this year. They're gonna move Rondale Moore outside wherever 309 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: they need him and look too often last year defense 310 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: has played that sawshell coverage as own and they kept 311 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: everything in front of him. You can't let defenses get 312 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: away without anymore. Rondel Moore is going to be a 313 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: big answer for that. Hollywood Brown is going to be 314 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: a big answer for that. You hope he puts the 315 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: whole speed receiver thing behind him off the field and 316 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: now he's got to work about work on things on 317 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: the field. I don't know what his status is going 318 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: to be for the Red and White. Kyler Murray is 319 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: tracking towards being on the field coming off the COVID 320 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: positive test, and so boom. That's the other aspect you'd 321 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: love to see when you get to Cincinnati. Maybe a 322 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: series from both guys. Maybe we'll see We're not going 323 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: to see Joe Burrow. If not, I'm figuring you're gonna 324 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: see at least a series or two against Baltimore on 325 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: National TV and Lamar Jackson. One more on Rondel Moore 326 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: when he addressed the media on Friday, bringing up he 327 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: was asked about receivers learning every single spot, whether it's inside, outside, 328 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: left or right, and his words opening up the playbook. 329 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: And that's a theme that we've heard a little bit 330 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: from the head coach, from Sean Jefferson as well, because Paul, 331 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: you watched it two years ago last year when DeAndre 332 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: Hopkins was on the field, where was he lined up? 333 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: Left side? Left side as your ex receiver? Now can 334 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: you move him around a little bit? And during the 335 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: open portions of practice they're open here at stave Farm Stadium, 336 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: we have when d hop has played and practice, he 337 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: has been in the slot. He has been on the 338 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: left side and the right side. I think that's a 339 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: huge change in philosophy by this coaching staff because if 340 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: you're able to do that, now, all of a sudden, 341 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: you're not forecasting to the defense what you're gonna do. 342 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: How did Cooper Cup when the Triple Crown of receiving 343 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: a year ago? It was remarkable When the Cardinals played 344 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: the Rams three times last year, every single time, he 345 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: can't help but watch Cooper Cup and that unbelievable season 346 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: he had and what Sean McVeigh does with Cup. He's 347 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: never in the same spot twice, Seemingly, He's always on 348 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: the move. He's anywhere where. They do a great job 349 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: of utilizing all the pre snap motions and everything else 350 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: to distracted defense and get Cooper Cup open, get him 351 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: space with which to work. He's such a phenomenal route runner. 352 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: We now at tight Cliff Kingsbury and Sean McVay, and 353 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: we know how much film they watch of each other. 354 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: Look yours truly over here. I would just say, if 355 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: there's something I would love to see this offense adapt 356 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: and adopt, it would be what they did with Cooper Cup. 357 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins is capable of that and then some and 358 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: if you could just make it that much less predictable 359 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: and to your point inside outside guys knowing every single position, Now, 360 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: how much of that is dictated by DeAndre Hopkins himself, 361 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: We don't know that exactly. And he's he definitely is 362 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: an opinionated guy. DeAndre Hopkins. There are certain things that 363 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: he likes in certain ways, and so I am curious 364 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: to see how that evolves this season. Well, we know 365 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: Cliff is willing to learn and adapt, maybe not as 366 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: quickly as some of the fan base would like him 367 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: to adapt. But let's go back to what Kingsbury had 368 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: to say earlier this training camp. Quote when I first 369 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: got here, yeah, it was pretty much Z was here 370 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: and X was there. But we've tried to really adapt 371 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: to the game and be able to find matchups and 372 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: move personnel around more. End quote. And he talked about 373 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: in college the game moves faster, so you don't you 374 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: don't have the opportunity to move receivers. You just kind 375 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: of stay on that side of the field. It's slowed 376 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: down for him here as he enders year four to 377 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: where all right, let's not be predictable, and Sean Jefferson 378 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: mentioned being interchangeable amongst those wide receivers, and well, I 379 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: hope that that is what It's not just coach speak 380 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: here as a storyline, but we actually see it come 381 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: the regular season. Well, last year, everybody, now, you lost 382 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: five of your last six, including the playoff game. The 383 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: year before, you lost five of your last seven. To 384 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: what degree was that because the offense became predictable? D 385 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: how much did it go beyond de hop We don't 386 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: know the answer to that exactly. All we do know 387 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: is there was ten to twelve weeks worth of film 388 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: out there. A defensive coordinators are very bright and until 389 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: you beat something, you're gonna see it again and again 390 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: and again, like that saftshell coverage where they defenses and 391 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: secondaries would keep everything in front of them. So I 392 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: think it is incumbent upon the Cardinals offense to try 393 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: and evolve and adapt and and sometimes change for the 394 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: sake of change. Yeah, it can make sense just to 395 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: throw a defense off the scent of what you've been 396 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: doing for the first two or three months of his season. 397 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: So once again, it's there's gonna be enough weapons and 398 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: enough different options to keep it varied. Yeah, if you 399 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: go back two years ago, I mean it was sort 400 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: of de hoop and you didn't have much else in 401 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: terms of an option. At first game in San Francisco, 402 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: what was at fourteen catches on like sixteen targets. It 403 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: was literally sideline left side of the field, and hop 404 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: sometimes didn't even go back to the huddle. He just 405 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: remained close to the sideline and Robert Sala didn't really 406 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: adjust it. Sort of the akin to the opener last 407 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: year when Taylor Lawan was still left with Chandler Jones. 408 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: They didn't chip him, They didn't give me extra help 409 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: off the edge, Like, what are you doing, Mike for Abel, 410 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: You've got to help out your left tackle. I mean 411 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: er Jones, just ate him alive. It's still one of 412 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: the most I don't know, confusing, perplexing coaching moves are 413 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: lack thereof I've witnessed in this league. Why didn't they 414 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: give Taylor to want some help at least by halftime? 415 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: But the same thing in that opener three years ago 416 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers when they never made an 417 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: adjustment against DeAndre Hopkins. But as that season went on 418 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: and there was a lack of other receiving options at 419 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: the time, then obviously he was getting doubled and tripled 420 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: it sometimes and so but once again, do you think 421 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: Cooper cup was getting doubled? It was getting extra attention 422 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: last year, Yes, the Rams schemed away to get him 423 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: open and get him to a triple crown of receiving 424 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: even at times, even in the Super Bowl, he had 425 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: four catches on a Super Bowl winning drive without OBJ 426 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: on the field, without Robert Woods on the field, Tyler Higbee, 427 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: it was Matthew Stafford, a Cooper Cup and they were unstoppable. 428 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: And that's where you want this Cardinals offense to be. 429 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: Even though you know where the ball is going, you're 430 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: still able to complete it. It's much like basketball. You 431 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: know the ball is going to find a Michael Jordan, 432 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: it's going to find here locally, Devin Booker. Yet you 433 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: still throw the ball to them to make a play 434 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: because they are your best option. DeAndre Hopkins when healthy, 435 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: win Right is this team's best pass catcher. Yeah, and 436 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: think of what Drew stan has told you repeatedly on 437 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: the Red Sea Report that then when you add those 438 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: tight ends, because that was what Trey McBride told the 439 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: media in the offseason, that coat slip. Yeah, Coach Kingsbury 440 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: wants to disguise the offense a little bit more. And 441 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: Drew absolutely agreed with that that when you have those 442 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: dual tight ends on the field, you're not showing your 443 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: hand nearly as much. So if a Max Williams is healthy, 444 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: think of this offense a year ago when Max Williams 445 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: was healthy, Think of how they were running the ball 446 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: and think how guess would it gave that defense little 447 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: something extra to think about are they running are they not? 448 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: And then boomed. It's all it needs in the NFL 449 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: is that moment of hesitation. What is an offense doing 450 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: and they have that edge and they can complete a 451 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: pass or they get to the hole before the linebacker. 452 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: And if the Cardinals able to do that this year, 453 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: or the combination of tight ends and receiving weapons and 454 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: arguably the deepest position room on the field, that running 455 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: back room. I think that's what you're striving for, is 456 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: that balance, and so a defense can break the huddle 457 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: and automatically no, and that's something else that For as 458 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: much as we like to bag on Wolf and yours 459 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: truly first an, whenever the Cardinals get under center right, 460 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: Wolf acts like they've landed on the moon. Okay, you know, 461 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: it's just like okay, just but but if you talk 462 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: to guys like Zach Allen other defensive lineman, when an 463 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: offense is in the gun, there are much fewer choices 464 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: for an offense. It becomes more predictable for a defensive front. Okay, 465 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: they're in the gun, they're not going to be able 466 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: to do X, Y and Z. So it makes it 467 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: easier for us to do our job. When a quarterback 468 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: is under center, it seemingly opens up the playbook to 469 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: any and all possibilities, and that becomes a bigger challenge 470 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: for a defense to read and react. Wilson and Island 471 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: on that. By the way, the head coach doesn't prefer 472 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: the quarterback, doesn't prefer it. Ron Wilfley's in the booth. 473 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: So what's gonna happen. Yeah, the quarterback's gonna be in 474 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: the shotgun. But you mentioned something about DeAndre Hopkins and 475 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: what he likes. And remember Larry Fitzgerald, once upon a 476 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: time was that X receiver. Yep, new coaching staff comes in. 477 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, he's playing inside, and maybe it 478 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: prolonged his career or at least elevated his game to 479 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: a little bit higher status. Now we're talking about fitz 480 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: who was already one of the best. But the more 481 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: you can do, and all of a sudden, an extra 482 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: several seasons of one hundred catches or more. Fitz still 483 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: was very prolific later in his years. DeAndre Hopkins, this 484 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: is year ten and we haven't seen much a d 485 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: hop over the last year and a half. Could not 486 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden he'd be in the mix to 487 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: where I'm once again being talked about amongst the elite 488 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: of the elite receivers. You know, instead of being split 489 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: out all by himself, what if all of a sudden, 490 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: he's like in a diamond formation or he's in trips 491 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: and you're able to use some of those speed guys 492 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: to clear out some room for a d hop Yes, 493 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: the possibilities are endless. I agree with you, and you 494 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: know what I think, d hop We're gonna need to 495 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: see him when he comes out. To your point, he 496 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: will have missed eleven straight games by the time the 497 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: suspension ends right around there. And look, I'm not predicting, 498 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm just citing Patrick Peterson was never the same when 499 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: he came off that six game suspension, almost the exact 500 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: identical age as a DeAndre Hopkins. So you have other 501 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: receiving options. You get him back into the mix, plus 502 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: the tight ends and once again, if if you have 503 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: that solid offensive line and then okay, you know that's 504 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: to me, that's not necessarily the question with this team. 505 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: It's when you see the DVOA projection that a Cardinals 506 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: defense that finished number six last year and those analytics 507 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: and metrics is now forecasting to be twenty eighth this year. 508 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: Hashtag no math. You know me, I'm not into all 509 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: the numbers necessarily, but when you see that sort of projection, 510 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: with that sort of disparity and regression from last year 511 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: to this year, and then you're looking at the defense 512 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: in camp, then you're realizing there are legitimate questions at 513 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: all three levels of the defense. To me, more and 514 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,719 Speaker 1: more as these cap practice is unfold, I find my 515 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 1: eye going to that side of the ball, and I 516 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: think for fans coming to State Farm Stadium for the 517 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: Red White practice on Saturday, yeah, look at who's maybe 518 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: not so much on the defensive line, but pay attention 519 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: to what Zavian Collins is doing. Isaiah Simmons. But I'm 520 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: right there with you in that secondary, specifically the cornerback. 521 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: If a Marco Wilson again is not playing because of 522 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: a growing issue and Byron Murphy had a vet day 523 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,239 Speaker 1: on Friday, he should be out there on Saturday. But 524 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: we've heard from head coach Cliff Kingsbury the jury is 525 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: still out and we've talked about that earlier here on 526 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday probably partner of the 527 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. There is a huge question mark at the 528 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: cornerback position. Not by so much us, but by the 529 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: head coach. They want Byron Murphy Junior to be a 530 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: slot corner. They need two outside corners. Do they even 531 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: have one beyond Byron Murphy Junior. That's what I'm hearing. 532 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: When Cliff Kingsbury, of his own volition calls out a player, 533 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: and that's essentially what he did. He put him on notice. 534 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: I necessarily put him on blast. There wasn't anything negative. 535 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,479 Speaker 1: They just he got sighted by the head coach. And 536 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: that's the way head coaches work in the NFL and 537 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: professional sports. They will use the media to send a 538 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: message that is exactly what was done. And Marco Wilson, look, 539 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a guy who started all 540 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: of last year pretty much, a guy who has earned 541 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: the respect of Advanced Joseph. Remember Advanced Joseph said a 542 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 1: week ago and a week into camp he said, yeah, 543 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: I don't think Marco Wilson needs to have a big 544 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,239 Speaker 1: camp to slid a highest spot on the roster. Well, 545 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: maybe there's some good cop bad cop going on there 546 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. You don't want a kid in year two, 547 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: especially a fourth rounder, to all of a sudden become 548 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: complacent or think he's arrived. He obviously has all the 549 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: measurables in the talent, he has the pedigree, his dad 550 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: coaches cornerbacks for a living, his older brothers in the NFL, 551 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: so everything is there for Marco Wilson. You just gotta 552 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: make sure. And I like to hear when he told 553 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: the media that he asked the coaches in the off 554 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: season for a cut up, a highlight cutup, not of 555 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: the great plays he made, but of the plays he missed, 556 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: the plays where he failed. He wanted to see those 557 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: in the off season. So that seemed to indicate that 558 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: he has a work ethic in the study habits. But 559 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: there's something missing obviously, or all Cliff Kingsbury wouldn't have 560 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: been moved to make that comment on his own. Again, 561 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: it's worth repeating the depth behind Murphy and Wilson, Antonio, Hamilton, 562 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: Josh and those of your experienced cornerbacks. And then it's 563 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: a Breon Borders, Nate Brooks, Jase Whittaker, your draft pick, 564 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: Christian Matthew a seventh round selection. So not quite much 565 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: there in that cornerback room. Before we cut you loose here, 566 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: Paul the ren white practice, anything else if you're a 567 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: fan coming to State Farm Stadium outside of wanting to 568 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: watch where the football is thrown. But that's that's easy. 569 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: That's that's the eye candy should fans be paying attention 570 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: to on Saturday. You know, it's hard not to notice 571 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons. You're gonna see number nine, and you're gonna 572 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: see him virtually anywhere and everywhere. He'll be on the edge, 573 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: you'll be mugging the a gaps next to the defensive lineman. Hey, 574 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: yesterday we saw him with quite a few snaps Zavin 575 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: Collins and Isaiah Simmons, as we originally envisioned next to 576 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: each other as inside linebackers. We saw that, and then 577 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: the next snap you might see him playing deep center 578 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: field safety or covering in the slot. So it's really 579 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: intriguing to watch number nine. You also will hear number 580 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: nine because he likes to bark and chirp and talk, 581 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: and he's sort of an instigator, like a hockey skating 582 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: around just starting stuff that's in Isaiah Simmons, Zaman Collins, 583 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: we watched him a little bit in some of the 584 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: nine on seven yesterday, and you know what he was 585 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: filling the hole, making the read reacting instantaneously. That is 586 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: a really good sign that a guy who's six four, 587 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: two fifty. I mean he has he has the measurables, 588 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: the size, the speed to go sideline to sideline. Does 589 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: he have the instincts and the intellect to be able 590 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: to play that inside linebacker position. So I would keep 591 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: an eye there as well. And I tell you Josh 592 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: Jackson is interesting as well. A former second round pick 593 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: has the size. And if you're if you want to 594 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: look at one guy that I think the coaches are 595 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: just quietly hoping really comes through and proves himself and 596 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: answers that cornerback question to a large degree, I definitely 597 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: say that. And at Dennis Gardeck, the explosion is back, 598 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: and he's always fun to watch, the long hair, the 599 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: pitbull body type. He's just feisty and going on every 600 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: single snap. And then there's the guy Dennis Gardeck mentioned 601 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: my jas Sanders number forty one, if you're looking for 602 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: one of the rookies. He called him an athletic freak, 603 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: and he is six four, six five. He does have 604 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: that length and you watch his explosion and his spin 605 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: move and some of the work, the violent hands that 606 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: he goes with, and some of his pass rushes. Those 607 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: are all guys so far that have been fun to watch. 608 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: Plenty of plenty on display, should say. Coming up on Saturday, 609 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: the Red and White Practice one thirty to three here 610 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: at State Farm Stadium. Both owner Michael Bidwall and head 611 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: coach Cliff Kingsbury will address the crowd. Goodasy cardinals dot 612 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: com for more information. 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