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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace on two sides of the country,

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Speaker 1: two devastating disappearances, all the way in Truckee, California, and Atlanta, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: We are on the search for two beautiful young girls,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for being with us here at Fox Nation and Series

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Speaker 1: X one eleven. Does the name Alannie Lenoir ring a bell?

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Speaker 1: If not before it will now take a listen now

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Speaker 1: to w XIA eleven. The parents of Alannia Lenoir, or

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Speaker 1: Fruity as she was called by friends, gathered Sunday morning

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Speaker 1: to send a message at the spot where she was

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Speaker 1: last seen. She would not leave, you know, for no reason.

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Speaker 1: There's no reason, So that's why we know she had

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Speaker 1: to happen taken. Alania has been missing since July thirtieth,

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Speaker 1: According to the Atlanta Police Department. She was last seen

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Speaker 1: in front of this apartment complex on Peachtree Street Northwest.

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Speaker 1: Her mother, Jeanette, says the twenty four year old left

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Speaker 1: her home and went to the complex with a friend.

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Speaker 1: That was the last time, she says she heard from

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Speaker 1: her daughter. Can you imagine what Alannie's mother has been

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Speaker 1: living through? And a desperate search for her daughter, her

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Speaker 1: beautiful young daughter just seemingly vanishing into thin air. Joining

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Speaker 1: me right now and all Star panel to make sense

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Speaker 1: of what we know. But before I introduced them all,

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Speaker 1: I want to go to Alannie's mother, Janette Jackson. You

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Speaker 1: can find her on Instagram at finding Underscore Fruity. Her nickname,

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Speaker 1: Miss Jackson. Thank you for being with us, thank you

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Speaker 1: for having me, and thank you for continually seeing my daughters.

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Speaker 1: You know, Miss Jackson, I have a daughter and a son,

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Speaker 1: and I cannot imagine the hell you're going through. Right now.

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Speaker 1: I will say her name as long as you want

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Speaker 1: me to. We all will to help you get some

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Speaker 1: kind of answer. When did you realize something was wrong

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Speaker 1: that you had no idea where a lotting was? Sunday

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Speaker 1: July I believe that was July thirtieth. I'm sorry everything

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Speaker 1: is starting to mix, you know, because so many days.

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Speaker 1: But Sunday I got a call um, you know, was

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Speaker 1: she home? So I didn't really think nothing of it

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Speaker 1: because I knew she had planned and we communicate very well.

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Speaker 1: But Monday, Um, I knew then it was a problem

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Speaker 1: because she's you know, she we have we communicate a

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Speaker 1: lot and that's when Monday I just really started paving

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Speaker 1: the payment and trying to get the police to do something.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to understand that where you live versus where

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Speaker 1: Alannie live. Alanie is just twenty four years old at

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Speaker 1: the time she disappeared, and that's been a few weeks. Now,

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Speaker 1: tell me where you live in relation to Alannie. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So that's an error that I'm glad you asked. So,

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Speaker 1: my daughter lives. I live in Douglas Dawn. That's where

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Speaker 1: she lives with me. So that's why I know she's missing.

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Speaker 1: She went to this location to visit, you know, these friends.

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Speaker 1: So she lives with you, She lives with me. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I was I was trying to figure out you were

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Speaker 1: saying that y'all are always in communication. Now I know

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Speaker 1: what you live together? Yeah, we lived together, so okay,

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Speaker 1: So when you're apart, do you stay in touch by

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Speaker 1: texting and calling? Yeah? We text, We Twitter, we we

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Speaker 1: TikTok we. You know, we're constantly, you know, communicating, and

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Speaker 1: if she's not going to come home, she lets me

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Speaker 1: know where. And we also share location. So that's why

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Speaker 1: I knew her. Laugh location, Oh, you share location. I

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Speaker 1: love that location. Whenever I get worried about the twins,

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Speaker 1: I can do life three sixty or share location, and

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Speaker 1: I know everything is okay, very comforting. So on that day,

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Speaker 1: July thirty, just a couple of weeks ago, were you

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Speaker 1: when you didn't hear from her, did you check your location?

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Speaker 1: I did, sow them that was the laugh known location

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Speaker 1: I understand that. Guys, take a listen to our friend,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Hollinger WXIA. Twenty four year old Alana Lanure was

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Speaker 1: last seen along the sixteen hundred block of Peachtree Street

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Speaker 1: in northeast Atlanta on July thirtieth. That's right across from

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Speaker 1: where Peachtree intersects with Beauford Highway. She stands five feet

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Speaker 1: four inches tall. She has brown hair, brown eyes, last

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Speaker 1: seen wearing a blue shirt, blue shorts, cream colored shoes.

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Speaker 1: If you think you can help, called nine one one

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Speaker 1: or Atlanta Police. Now, family and friends believe that she

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Speaker 1: was abducted from her apartment at that location. They planned

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Speaker 1: Let me understand something back to you. This is a

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Speaker 1: Lonnie's mom, Jeanette Jackson, joining us. He said, Peach Tree

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Speaker 1: in Beeford Highway. I thought it was Peach Tree in

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about it every morning. This is mom's

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Speaker 1: find Let me ask you, Misterette Jackson. Did her when

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Speaker 1: ma'am oh, I hate that. I hate. That's so much

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Speaker 1: with me Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter, Sydney Summer, Sydney,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. We don't know a lot,

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Speaker 1: but just give me the bare bones of what we

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Speaker 1: that Alannie was with a friend on the night of

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Speaker 1: confirm that my daughter went inside this specific apartment with

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Speaker 1: these three other people who have three different stories. No,

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Speaker 1: and oh with me high profile lawyer. I'm sure you've

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Speaker 1: heard his name before. Out a win to Park, Florida.

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Speaker 1: John Deal, author of Method The Method, Proven Techniques for

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Speaker 1: Winning jury trials. You can find them at johnwdal dot com. John,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Great to be here.

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Speaker 1: You know what I love. I love it when three

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Speaker 1: times been now, Okay, I accept that witnesses different witnesses

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Speaker 1: than Jackie's what she's doing to man the boards and

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Speaker 1: two deare very different stories. However, upon questioning, at some

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Speaker 1: Don't ever coach a witness. Let them say what they remember.

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Speaker 1: But once you can piece together their stories from their

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Speaker 1: could just go in there. Chris Buyers joining me former

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Speaker 1: why why the hey aren't they allowing miss Jackson to

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Speaker 1: Doctor Sherry, you know, we think that they're safety in numbers.

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Speaker 1: That's not always true. Who you've got a Lonnie with

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Speaker 1: all hell can break loose. That is so true, Nancy.

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Speaker 1: we love you. And if you see this, please just

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Speaker 1: please just come home. I want nothing more than to

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Speaker 1: hug you. And if anybody else out there, if you

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Speaker 1: know where she is, if you know anything about where

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Speaker 1: she might be, if you have any ideas or her thoughts,

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00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: please please come forward and share them. And we're not

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Speaker 1: looking to like best anybody else or get anybody in trouble.

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Speaker 1: We just want to spear and got her home when

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Speaker 1: she says, and you're hearing her mother speaking when she said,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to bust anybody or get anybody in

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Speaker 1: trouble to Sydney, sum are joining us Crime online dot

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Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter. Kylie was at a big party, like

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Speaker 1: a graduation party. They were like two or three hundred

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00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: students and friends there. Somebody had to see something. I

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00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: don't want to get anybody any trouble either, but I

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00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,479
Speaker 1: want to find this girl. Tell me what happened, Sydney. Yeah,

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00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: so the timeline for that night is that Kylie was

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00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: at this party. She spent most of the night with

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Speaker 1: her friend, her girlfriend, Sammy Smith, and Smith actually left

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Speaker 1: before Kylie and that's apparently the last time anyone can

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Speaker 1: confirm that they saw Kylie after Sammy last. So let

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Speaker 1: me understand. She goes to the party with the friend,

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Speaker 1: what's the friend's name, Sammy, Sammy Smith, and she doesn't

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Speaker 1: leave with Sammy, right, No, Sammy goes home by herself

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00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: and leaves Kylie there in good spirit. Why I don't

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Speaker 1: think they were right. Okay, so Kylie wanted to stay

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00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 1: all right, they weren't rotting together. That's an important fact. Right,

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00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: And let me understand where is this? Where did this happen?

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00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: Where is Trucky, California. Yeah, I've actually driven through Trucky

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Speaker 1: a couple of times. It's right on the way if

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Speaker 1: you're trying to get from Reno to Lake Tahoe. So

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Speaker 1: it's basically the city that's right on the border in

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Speaker 1: between California and Nevada. It's really small. I remember seeing

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Speaker 1: a gas station. I think the population is less than

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Speaker 1: twenty thousand people. Wow. Okay, see that's so important. That's

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Speaker 1: so important because it reduces the potential number of suspects.

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00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: Although it is and that stretched from Reno to Lake Tahoe,

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Speaker 1: so you do get a lot of people going back

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Speaker 1: and forth through them. What kind of party was this,

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00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: Sydney Sumner. It was out of the campground, so it's

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Speaker 1: actually at the Prosper Family campground a little bit north

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Speaker 1: of the city. What the Prosser's Family campground is where

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Speaker 1: this party was. So it was a little bit north

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Speaker 1: of the city Truckee right next to Lake Crosser, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: it seems like it was a huge party. There were

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Speaker 1: kids coming out from San Francisco. Apparently, what kind of

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Speaker 1: party was it, Sydney Sumner. Apparently it was a senior

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Speaker 1: phil farewell party. So you have junior seniors, college kids

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Speaker 1: at this party. Okay, so apparently everybody did not know

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Speaker 1: everyone else. Take a listen now to our cut five

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Speaker 1: our friens a k a z R. Here is a

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Speaker 1: look at Kylie Rodney's sixteen years old five foot seven,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and eighteen pounds, blonde hair and plaster. County

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Speaker 1: Sheriff's office is they're treating this like an abduction because

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Speaker 1: her car also has not been found. But let's show

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Speaker 1: you some video from around this area where volunteer and

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Speaker 1: search and rescue crews have been scouring the entire area

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Speaker 1: around Prosterer Campground where she was last sing at about

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Speaker 1: midnight Friday. She was at a senior farewell party. Senior

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Speaker 1: farewell party. You were hearing our friends at KOVR. Now

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Speaker 1: listen to our friends ABC ten. Kylie Riding was last

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Speaker 1: seeing at a party here at the Proster Family Campgrounds.

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Speaker 1: About one hundred people were there, and I want to

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Speaker 1: show you what this area looks like so you can

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Speaker 1: understand what authorities are up against when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the search. This morning. This is a heavily wooded area,

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Speaker 1: a large body of waters here at the campgrounds, and

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Speaker 1: they're looking up and down throughout this area trying to

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Speaker 1: find her. This sixteen year old girl disappeared from the party.

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Speaker 1: Her silver twenty thirteen Honda c RV is also missing,

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Speaker 1: and her phone has been out of service since the party,

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Speaker 1: according to the Shares office to Honda has a California

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Speaker 1: license plate, California license plate, car, missing, cell phone out

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Speaker 1: of service since she left the party. Is that correct,

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Speaker 1: Sydney Summer, Yes, that is correct. After she sent a

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Speaker 1: text to her mother that she was coming home from

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Speaker 1: the party at about twelve fifteen am on Saturday, her

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Speaker 1: phone goes silent and we haven't heard from it since.

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Speaker 1: Again with me and All Star panel to try to

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Speaker 1: break down what we know right now. To Chris Buyer's

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Speaker 1: former police chief, John's Creek, what do you think. I

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00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: think that they are treating this correct, that as looking

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Speaker 1: at an abduction and not just a missing person, which

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Speaker 1: is huge. So I hats off to the sheriffs apartment

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Speaker 1: for treating this right, not trying to not trying to

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Speaker 1: minimize what's going on. You know, you always start looking

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Speaker 1: where she was last seen and go outward. But I

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Speaker 1: agree with the sheriff apartment. With the car missing as well,

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Speaker 1: I would definitely be looking at this like an abduction,

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Speaker 1: you know, from my understanding to doctor Sherry Schwartz joining

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Speaker 1: me forensic psychologist, apparently there weren't just the invitees and

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00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: Ward got out, and apparently friends are saying a lot

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00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: of older guys showed up and we're trying to get

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Speaker 1: the younger girls drunk. I mean, this little girl, Kylie

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Speaker 1: rod is just sixteen years old. Yes, And as I

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Speaker 1: was listening Nancy, I wondered, you know, how did this

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Speaker 1: go out on social media? Right? Because this is how

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00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: so many of us communicate nowadays, right, And so even

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00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: if somebody's at the party posting or you know, doing

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Speaker 1: a live TikTok or insta story, and there's people in

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00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: the area, they come on by, there's people that maybe

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00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: planned to be there because they saw it on social media,

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00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: and hey, there's going to be high school girls there

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00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: and maybe some college girls there. So it's one of

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Speaker 1: those things that can get out of control fast, and

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00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: then it makes it even harder. Yeah, and we have

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Speaker 1: a big time gap before she's reported missing. Take a

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Speaker 1: listen to our francy ko v R. We also had

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to talk to her mother, a very difficult

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Speaker 1: time for her mom. It was at eleven thirty she

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00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: told me that she was leaving in forty five weeks.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get in her way home. I'm a

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00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: terrible mother. I had slept. I said, you know, wake

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Speaker 1: me up when you come home, and then I woke

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00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: up at eight am and realized she hadn't wokened me up.

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00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: But she's so so responsible. She always checks in. She

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00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: always texts me when she's out and lets me know,

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00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: even checking in multiple times in night, even when she's

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Speaker 1: out with friends. So the behavioral evidence is that she

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00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: always takes Mom or friends. But as of that night,

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00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: everything goes radio silence. So we John deal now have

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00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: an eight hour YAP Craig from the time she texts

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00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: mom at twelve fifteen to eight o'clock that morning, Mom

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00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: wakes up and realizes she's not there. That hurts the case. Yes, Fortunately,

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00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: though there's two things that they're going to be looking

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00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: at it very carefully. Obviously, the cell phone, even though

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00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: it wasn't responded, it may still be pinging, kind of

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00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: like in the Michelle Parker case. And then most importantly

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00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: is the car. I mean, if this went on a

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00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: highway anywhere, if it went into Nevada, that can be

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00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: found at least it's location somehow through different cameras that

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00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: can be tracked down. What if the cell phone is underwater,

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00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: well that's another concern, but at least they know when

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00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: it last ping exactly, so that would be you know,

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00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: the timing of it as to where would last ping

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00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: or was last operative is a critical piece in the investigation. Yeah,

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00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: and we don't know that, but we do know this.

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Speaker 1: There's no amber alert. Curious take a listen to our

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00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 1: cut seven forensic KOVR. The HP has not issued an

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00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: amber alert in this case because they are saying that

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Speaker 1: this is not a credible abduction. At this point, they

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00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: have no proof according to their own threshold, that this

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00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: in fact is an abduction. In the Plaster County Sheriff,

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00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: they're saying that they are treating this as if she

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Speaker 1: has been abducted because they can't find her vehicle, and

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00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: as a result of treating it that way and putting

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00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: this out there in that manner, the FBI is now

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00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: also involved in the search for Kylie Rodney right now. Interesting,

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00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: it takes a lot to get the FBI involved. Take

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00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: a listen to this. The last person to speak to

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Speaker 1: her by phone was her friend Sammy Smith, who was

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Speaker 1: with her at the party. That somebody else was involved

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Speaker 1: is my main concern, and I think a lot of

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00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: the people of Chucky and Talo feel the same way,

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00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 1: just that there was somebody else involved because they haven't

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00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: found a car yet. They've done helicopter search is over

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00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: Prosser and all of Chucky. Everybody's looking everywhere constantly for

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00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: her in her car. Well, the Plaza County Sheriff's officers

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00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 1: released a photo of the type of car that Rodney

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00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: owned and would have been driving. It's a twenty thirteen

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00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: Honda CRV. So we now know that she spoke to

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Speaker 1: someone after speaking to her mom. That someone is Sammy Smith,

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Speaker 1: who is now dedicating herself to the search. Listen. Sammy Smith,

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00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: one of Kylie's good friends, is organizing crews of Commune

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00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: Unity members who were looking for the team across the

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00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: Tahoe Region Lnshire. These flyers are posted in neighborhoods, downtown

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00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: Truckee and at campsites, so this is where everybody's hanging out.

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00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: Kylie and I were meeting a right here at local

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Speaker 1: Young people call this open area near the Prosser Family

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Speaker 1: Campground the Sanctuary. It's a common place for parties. Sammy

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00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: says she was here with Kylie Friday night, along with

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00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: tons of other high school and college kids from the

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Speaker 1: Bay Area all the way to Nevada. The search for

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Speaker 1: Kylie Rodney goes on tipline five three zero, five eight

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Speaker 1: one six three two zero. Goodbye friend,