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Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It to show that takes

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment

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Speaker 1: and culture.

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Speaker 2: Start with headline news and then journey to.

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Speaker 1: Deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are presented

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Speaker 1: in every single story. I'm your host, Marcel Swally, that dude,

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Speaker 1: you know the color the villains in black where they're from.

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Speaker 2: Love for you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Man, We out here killing the game and the n

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Speaker 1: join the process. Man, much love for you guys. There's

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Speaker 1: that heartbeat for you. You know, Brink's reach and we're getting

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Speaker 1: it in Wiley's world you too. Right now where it's

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Speaker 1: time to reset our Friday swag away. So when we

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Speaker 1: giving away this week, Mars Sellers, Oh man, you choose it, Dan,

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Speaker 1: everybody chooses the book, but not and everybody in the

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Speaker 1: absolute sense, just in the generaal sense.

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Speaker 2: So you can get this book right here.

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Speaker 1: You can get these playing cards, or you can get

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Speaker 1: the jersey for this week's Friday swag away.

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Speaker 2: Open that thing up, hommy, let them know what you're

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Speaker 2: full of with right here. That me right there. But

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Speaker 2: that's also the same.

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Speaker 1: Options you got and a little more if you guess

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Speaker 1: when we go over one hundred kick cake, which is

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Speaker 1: I would guess. I said Monday at twenty seven, next Monday, right,

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Speaker 1: Didn't I say next Monday?

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Speaker 2: No? I said today. It ain't happening today.

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Speaker 1: Unlet's I do a video with mister Beasts or I

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Speaker 1: go streaking, going streaking and go to KFC. If I

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Speaker 1: do that, maybe we get over hund k today. If not,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be next Monday to twenty seven. I said

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Speaker 1: that on record, right, all right? You know how we

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Speaker 1: start off every show with what's up with that?

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Speaker 2: Dude?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what's up with that dude. I

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Speaker 1: had a cultural contrast yesterday. I gotta give it to you.

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Speaker 1: Had a real chill weekend, just a couple of dinners

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Speaker 1: and went to an event. Told y'all about that blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah. But the culture contrast was the best part

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Speaker 1: about my weekend. So my daughter is getting their hair braded,

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Speaker 1: like every month or so, little four year old getting

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Speaker 1: just getting it hooked up right, but she getting her

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Speaker 1: hair braided, and I'm looking like, damn, that's like my

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Speaker 1: sister When I was growing up getting her hair braided

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Speaker 1: on the porch set. Still you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: That's how we grew up getting it done, and then

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Speaker 2: Her as a whole different ailment, now a whole different environment.

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Speaker 1: The braider comes with like it looked like staff almost

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Speaker 1: like bringing all this stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, god, Lee, just to get an air braider. Love

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Speaker 2: the process.

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Speaker 1: Love the braider that said, while she's getting her hair braided,

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Speaker 1: we out here playing pickleball, and it just felt like

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Speaker 1: this whole different culture clash, like the contrasts of cultures.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm in the backyard playing pickleball, looking

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Speaker 1: at my little daughter get a hair braided like little snoop,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, I remember that from when I

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Speaker 1: So just one of those appreciation situations. Y'all got those

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Speaker 1: as well. Always good at to reflect on it. But

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Speaker 1: let's get into this show right now, because jay billis

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Speaker 1: he out there.

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Speaker 2: Calling out people for racial.

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Speaker 1: Overtones and ran Paul's nil comments.

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Speaker 2: Did you guys catch those? Well?

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Speaker 1: Jay Billis summed them up and said it's a pretty

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Speaker 1: clear dog whistle.

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Speaker 2: We know what that means. Let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: So they had the US Senate hearings on the Lumen

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Speaker 1: merger between PGA DP World Tour and Saudi Arabia Public

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Speaker 2: We all know that, and Senator Ram Paul supposed to

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Speaker 2: be talking about that, but he he just swerved off

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Speaker 2: the road a little bit off topic, and he wanted

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Speaker 2: to address the college athletes that are profiting off the nil.

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Speaker 2: So he said, many of us love watching amateur athletes

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Speaker 2: that weren't paid. Now, everybody that plays basketball in college

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Speaker 2: is going to be driving a Bentley or Rolls Royce.

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Speaker 1: I mean we're gonna be seeing rap stars instead of

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Speaker 2: I mean this is crazy. Uh oh, you already know

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Speaker 2: where that went. Sous he in the bushes. He is

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Speaker 2: in the terrain right now. So Paul comparing basketball players

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Speaker 1: That got everybody's attention, and it sounded like it was

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Speaker 2: Let's be real.

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Speaker 1: So Jay billis want a esp his foremost college basketball

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Speaker 1: Lebertardi said, to be kind, it was racio undertones. It

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Speaker 1: was overtones. God dang, I love when people do that

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Speaker 1: because you remember you used to be like, man, you

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Speaker 1: understand me? And then Cassy used to hit you, mand

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Speaker 1: do you overstand? You'd be like what you've been watching?

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Speaker 1: Do the right thing or something. But I love that

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Speaker 1: he went there, and it was a pretty clear dog whistle,

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Speaker 1: that's what he says. So I didn't care for it.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised he hasn't been called out on it more

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Speaker 1: to date, just like Tommy Tupperville with the ridiculous things

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Speaker 1: he said recently, which were basically, are white nationalists racist?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: And at first he was like Noah, Noah, Noah, and

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Speaker 1: then he got pressed enough and he finally admitted, yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: that's what that was about. So Billis was unsure why

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Speaker 1: Paul hasn't been pressed about the racially charged comments, and said, who.

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Speaker 2: Cares what the players drive? Why do you care what

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Speaker 2: the players drive?

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Speaker 1: And all the people are talking about the they don't

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Speaker 1: like money in college sports, they didn't complain over the

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Speaker 1: last forty five and fifty years when revenues have gone

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Speaker 2: Strikes me as crazy.

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Speaker 1: That so many free market libertarians they're saying, oh, but

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Speaker 1: this one segment, no free marketing for you. Everybody else,

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Speaker 1: we want the free market, but we don't want that

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Speaker 1: for you. Interesting, So it's almost i moral. It's so

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Speaker 1: ridiculous that it gets to be im moral that we

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Speaker 1: want to restrict college athletes only.

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Speaker 2: And say, well, they get a scholarship.

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Speaker 1: But look at all the non athletes that get scholarships

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Speaker 1: and they can make whatever money they want.

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Speaker 2: Facts. All right.

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Speaker 1: So then Mike Ryan, who's on the Levatar show, said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: majority of the college athletes that are going to benefit

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Speaker 1: from the nil are minorities. It kind of feels like,

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Speaker 1: know your place. We want to keep the power dynamic

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Speaker 1: as is. All right, let's talk about this because we're

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Speaker 1: basically asking a rand Paul's NIO comments races.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me say this. It's interesting.

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Speaker 1: The one element that really hit home for me was

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Speaker 1: the fact that non athletes get scholarships and are able

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Speaker 1: to benefit tremendously off of it. I went to Columbia,

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Speaker 1: as you guys know who else went to Columbia. Lauren Hill,

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Speaker 1: who was the homie. I was a junior. She was

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you what she had in terms of

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Speaker 2: journey versus me.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm there. I gotta play all four years, right,

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Speaker 1: this is even before the ruler you gotta be over nineteen.

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Speaker 1: This is before you gotta play three years. It's just

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Speaker 1: you gotta play, right, So I gotta play at Columbia

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Speaker 1: all that time. Meanwhile, Lauren Hill could come in, go

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Speaker 1: to class, disappear for her forever, go film Sister Act,

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Speaker 1: come back, do a Fuji album, Go do Sister Act two,

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Speaker 1: come back, do another Fuji album, blow up, and never

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Speaker 1: go back to school and then probably get an honorary

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Speaker 1: to her like dog, you can just tap out, go

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Speaker 1: do what you're destined to do your profession while still

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Speaker 1: being in college, and get paid for it and no

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Speaker 1: rule violation.

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Speaker 2: Why me? Why can't I? Now?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I was good enough to just

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Speaker 1: there obviously hits home. And then it's another part of

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Speaker 1: this that's interesting because when you talk about nil and now.

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Speaker 2: All it's trying to do is.

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Speaker 1: Keep pace or catch up to what everyone else is

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Speaker 1: doing around the big business of college sports, especially football

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Speaker 2: So who gets paid.

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Speaker 1: The institutions, right, they get paid through all of the

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Speaker 1: broadcasting rights. They get paid obviously in scheduling as well.

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Speaker 1: Look when Florida State wants to play Columbia, then guess

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Speaker 1: what Columbia gonna get paid, because we ain't putting our

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Speaker 2: Comes along with it.

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Speaker 1: So the institutions get paid, right, And then we also

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Speaker 1: know how it affects enrollment, how it infects the esteem

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Speaker 1: of the university. So therefore they get more people trying

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Speaker 1: a reputation, all right. So the institution get paid. The

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Speaker 1: coaches really get paid. Coaches in college the krim that

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Speaker 1: let Crimp surpass the NFL coaches, they getting paid nick

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Speaker 1: saving them guys pery. All right, So coaches getting paid,

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, okay, can they get a little something?

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Speaker 2: Here's their stipend? Shut up?

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Speaker 1: They got the scholarship is free. And I love when

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Speaker 1: they throw the scholarship argument. I was a Nike client. Now,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't Lebron, I wasn't Jordan my Paul George. I

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Speaker 1: ain't get paid by Nike, Bruce Smith did. I didn't

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Speaker 1: get paid by Nike. But I was a Nike ambassador,

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Speaker 1: Nike client. You know what that meant?

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Speaker 2: I could give whatever I wanted for free from Nike

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Speaker 2: because they ain't care. They're like, dog, we give it

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Speaker 2: to them wholesale. What's before wholesale? Like no sale?

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Speaker 1: Why not retail? Not wholesale? Just like, yeah, whatever here?

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Speaker 1: And I could just open up the catalog, order whatever, right,

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Speaker 1: and then I could go to the Nike store get

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Speaker 1: whatever for real.

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Speaker 2: I could in my heyday. Yeah, and that's just me.

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Speaker 1: You imagine that meant nothing to Nike except oooh, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be an ambassador and broadcast our message. So now

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Speaker 1: you looking at these players and they're like, dog, don't

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Speaker 1: just give me what y'all can give me that costs

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Speaker 1: nothing to you. Give me a little of the skin

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Speaker 1: in the game. You're getting the institution, you're getting the coaches.

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Speaker 1: Why can't we get it? And let me remind you,

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Speaker 1: people are really here to see what we do in product,

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Speaker 1: in our labor, in us playing the game. So it's

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Speaker 1: a pretty obvious answer to me that the players should

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Speaker 1: be benefit off it.

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Speaker 2: But it's also pretty obvious that Ran Paul I ain't.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't like seeing players get paid, which became a

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Speaker 1: little too synonymous with black players getting paid in his

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Speaker 1: mind where he went wrong. So tell me you agree

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Speaker 1: with J Billis that Paul should be pressed more on

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Speaker 1: these comments because right now do never shut up?

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Speaker 2: Sounds like we pressing them as well. Oh man, I

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Speaker 2: was bumping from YG.

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Speaker 1: Last night, sitting there in the hot tub all sword

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Speaker 1: Sometimes there's a huge divide between what's really happening and

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Speaker 1: Let'll get a little Betsy finally get the summer assault

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Speaker 1: this best selling book, gonna be these playing cards, or

438
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be this jersey straight out of Jersey.

439
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Speaker 2: Blah Ti Ti ton, Time for some action. Where is

440
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 2: that from? Y'all know what it is? Oh, got love

441
00:20:59,440 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 2: for you guys.

442
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 1: Also, you gotta go into the community section to the

443
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,880
Speaker 1: comment exact.

444
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,159
Speaker 2: Day in time. We are going over one hundred k ac.

445
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,479
Speaker 1: I said Monday, and I met next Monday, not today,

446
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 1: two twenty seven pm. Let's see what your guess is.

447
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's not guess about this situation. Let's get

448
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,159
Speaker 1: real definitive. By Mike Martz and his latest rent on

449
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson summer calling their racism. But in this world

450
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 1: today everything seems like racism.

451
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:30,679
Speaker 2: College my daddy.

452
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: See this is why I always be like, man, y'all,

453
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 1: y'all mustn't talk to y'all parents or grandparents.

454
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:36,199
Speaker 2: I don't know.

455
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,959
Speaker 1: Mama and daddy was at home. Boy, my daddy used

456
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 1: to pick cotton for a summer for a dollar. I like, Daddy,

457
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 1: a dollar.

458
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 2: I was like, that was just to get away and

459
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 2: not call it slavery because I'm like.

460
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Speaker 1: Oh, you pack all that kind for a whole summer.

461
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 1: You got a dollar. You're like, yeah, I got a dollar.

462
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 1: I was like a dollar a month, dollar week, dollar

463
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Speaker 1: a day. He was like, no, a dollar. I was like, Daddy,

464
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Speaker 1: do you know He's like no, But it was only

465
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 1: a god dag whoa I mean real segregation. Like my

466
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 1: dad was like, no, you ain't going on that side

467
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 1: of the street. But my dad was born nineteen forty seven,

468
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 1: grew up in Texas. All right, so let's talk about

469
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Speaker 1: this and see where we're going with it. So Mike Martz,

470
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Speaker 1: he had his recent analysis of Lamar Jackson the Great Quarterback,

471
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Speaker 1: but this is not the first time he went in

472
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Speaker 1: on Lamar Jackson with some harsh criticism. This time he

473
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Speaker 1: extended beyond being a non believer in Jackson with comments

474
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Speaker 1: that some suggests had that racially tense undertone.

475
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Speaker 2: What is that?

476
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Speaker 1: I don't know how good Jackson is at processing things,

477
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 1: and that's the key. How quick can you process, read,

478
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Speaker 1: and react. I don't know if he has that. Okay,

479
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: let me stop right here, because if that's all we're

480
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Speaker 1: gonna run with, let me just give you.

481
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Speaker 2: Some reflection, some reflection points.

482
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Speaker 1: Not sure why that is racially charged that exclusively.

483
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Speaker 2: Now.

484
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Speaker 1: I know where people go with it, because they go

485
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: back to the past when that was said predominantly about

486
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: the black quarterback. But we're in the present right now,

487
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 1: and in the present you could say that about Lamar

488
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: Jackson if you want. But guess who they do say

489
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: it about as well. Carson Wentz, Baker Mayfield. Good lord.

490
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I've said it five times and

491
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Speaker 1: it hurt it ten times.

492
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 2: Like yo.

493
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Speaker 1: The reason Carson Wentz take all them sacks and begin hurt.

494
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 1: He ain't processing it very well. Baker Mayfield, he ain't

495
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Speaker 1: processing it very well. So I understand the birth of

496
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Speaker 1: this was for the black quarterback in general, but specifically

497
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 1: now it's for any quarterback that can't process it.

498
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Speaker 2: That's the way I see it.

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Speaker 1: You guys tell me different or agree, all right, So

500
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: this sort of valuation of black quarterbacks, we know, suggests

501
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: the lack of intelligence to play the position that used

502
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: to be the dog whistle back in the day, right,

503
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: And that revealed the ignorance or even racist some of

504
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Speaker 1: a Scout coach executive. As we talked about march Is

505
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: seventy two, we know he want to Super Bowl with

506
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: the old one, sick witted rams and been out the

507
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: NFL for about a decade coaching in other leagues. So

508
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 1: it was talked about with Trey Lance as well, and

509
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: he was going against Justin Fields, both first round quarterbacks

510
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: and both black Right and Mars said to Lance, I

511
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: never liked him. I still don't like him. I've never

512
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: seen anything about this kid that was encouraging at all.

513
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: He looked like a fullback looking around a stumble trying

514
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: to run the ball. He's not a quick decision guy. Okay,

515
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: now about Fields, he said, I'm just shocked, shocked at

516
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 1: the Bears. I don't know if I've ever seen such

517
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: a bad performance from a starting quarterback in his opening

518
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: performance of the season like that.

519
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: He was just completely awful quarterback that can't do anything

520
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 2: like that at all. All right, here's the thing.

521
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Speaker 1: Whoa how much has Trey Lance showed y' all to

522
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: fall in love with him yet? Anybody I don't know

523
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: about to see this is what's happening. It's death by

524
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: a thousand paper cuts. Like all right, Marx, you know

525
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: the history of the quarterback position. You know the history

526
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: of the black quarterback. You know what Lamar Jackson had

527
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: to go through just to get drafted, Like people were

528
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: telling him to switch and play running back, which is

529
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 1: another conversation.

530
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 2: Let's go down that road, right.

531
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Speaker 1: I remember playing with Matt Jones, y'all Remember who Matt

532
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: Jonns y'all remember Matt Jones, six foot six in the

533
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: playing receiver in the league for Jacksonville a few years,

534
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 1: sucking around a four four four three at six six two.

535
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Speaker 2: Ten like sick.

536
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: He was an athlete, but he was a quarterback in college.

537
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Speaker 1: Guess what they told him when he was coming out

538
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Speaker 1: the draft, Play receiver.

539
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 2: Guess what he.

540
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: Did, white quarterback, white quarterback, play receiver. So it's like

541
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: that Julian Edelman, right, same thing, et cetera. So it's like,

542
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: what we're getting lost in.

543
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 2: Is what used to be in how it is?

544
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: And Mike Martin sounded like, uh, used to be, guy,

545
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: not caring about it is, and still sounded like yoused

546
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: to be.

547
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 2: But does that make it racially? Ten? Does that make

548
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 2: this racism? All right?

549
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: So we talked about all that, and it was funny

550
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: because of his criticism of fields and lance and we

551
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 1: all know that it was a money game that game

552
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: he was talking about, and they barely played in that game.

553
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: It was like, what are you talking about?

554
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: So it could be all coincidental for Mike Martz or

555
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: it could be intentional in terms of how he has

556
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: a little more scathing criticism and scouting of the black quarterback.

557
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: But demit, sucker. Coach Kurt Warner straight from the grocery store.

558
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: You coach Kurt Runer from the grocery store. And he

559
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: was he was Tilton ninety nine, two thousand, two thousand

560
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: one whatever.

561
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Speaker 2: He was Tilton. So I mean, when you're coming from

562
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: that vantage point, sometimes it comes down with a heavy hand,

563
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: all right. So I don't like the casual word racism.

564
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: I like it and respect situations when it is really

565
00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: deemed necessary.

566
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 2: So y'all tell me, man of this situation.

567
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: You think Mars's Lamar Jackson comments are racist, you think

568
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: Mars and Trey Lance Justin Field comments a racist.

569
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: But let me tell you what I'm.

570
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: Thinking about it in general, because I'm going through this

571
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: right now as I've always went through it in my life,

572
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: but specifically with my foundation, I'm talking to adults the

573
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: youth about not taking ownership of negativity, especially when it's

574
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: there to group you, right, and I think a lot

575
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: of times groups do.

576
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: That, right.

577
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: You'll take the general stereotype about you when you're like dog,

578
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: that ain't me or that ain't we.

579
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: But that's what y'all are, right. Let me give you

580
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: some examples.

581
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: So for being black, you know, you hear a lot

582
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: of times people almost make it synonymous. Oh, we got

583
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: to help those poor kids. So then you got imagery

584
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: that comes with that, and you think black, even though

585
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: there's more white poor kids than black, but you think

586
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: black right hood. It's crazy because in my hood, my hood,

587
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: it was all when I grew up. But guess what

588
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: before I got there, who were there all white? And

589
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: guess what when I go back now, who's there all Mexicans.

590
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: It's like crazy, right, So it's like, don't own this stuff. Underprivileged,

591
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: underserved you think one group, nah, underprivileges, underprivilege, and let

592
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: me take you if you really want to go. If

593
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: you have ventured, you realize it looks like skittles, all types,

594
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: all colors, all flavors, of course at times leaning towards one.

595
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: So I just want people to be reminded of the

596
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: brainwashing that happens, and not always so intentional with a

597
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: red dot on your forehead, just lazy, simple thinking people.

598
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: Just get simple, lazy group and stand back at a distance.

599
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: That's where the fear is closing that gap, that's where

600
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: the anxiety is, and that's where the ignorance is as well.

601
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna get my feet a little muddy as

602
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: I travel through those roads to bridge the gap, to

603
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: make sure everyone sees the full picture. Feeling good over here,

604
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: a little toasty, is one hundred degrees outside, but I

605
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: got the ac on. But that's why I'm wearing this hoodie.

606
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it is getting inferno up

607
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: in here. So let's just get into it right now.

608
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: Y'all know we got love for you. So we're gonna

609
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: have our Friday swag away. Who wants this? My brain

610
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: for my daughter, you know. G thanks Snoop here her

611
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: boyfriend Brian, big fan of the show Man, so I

612
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: laced him with some love and shout out to you,

613
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: Brian for all the support.

614
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: For real.

615
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: You can get this as well. Y'all out there, y'all

616
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: know how we do in this Jersey So fun, so fun,

617
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: so fresh right there. Gotta hook y'all up, and you

618
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: gotta guess go to community post.

619
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: Guess exact day of time. We go over one hundred

620
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: k in just five months. Let's do that five months? Damn?

621
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: Why do you out here? Rolling? Picture me rolling?

622
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: Okay, now we're gonna get into some funk up some comments.

623
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into this right here is today

624
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: to day that I think we're doing it. Let me see, yep,

625
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: we're doing these all right. Let's talk about ESPN choosing

626
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: steven A over Skip. I guess we did that on Friday.

627
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: Here we go. Skip can't get viewers without steven A

628
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: or Shannon First Takes. Still doing good as far as

629
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: viewership without Skip, and Shannon's podcast does.

630
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: Millions of viewers each interview.

631
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: If you look at skips podcasts views, it ain't even

632
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: a quarter of what Shannon's views are. Skip not making

633
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: no impact on TV without another big personality across from him.

634
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: Are you sure of that? Are you sure that? What's

635
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: your evidence? Oh, you're gonna go back to cold pizza?

636
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: What's your evidence?

637
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: Well? They did seven years together. What's your evidence before that?

638
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: It was banging.

639
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: It was banging when it was Steven A and Skip

640
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: for four years, and then it was banging with Shannon

641
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: for seven years.

642
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: That's eleven years. So we gotta go back to what

643
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: twenty twelve? Your evidence is? Twenty twelve?

644
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I will say this SKIP podcast is not interesting

645
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: to me, but that don't mean it ain't interested in

646
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: y'all out there. He got more subscribers than me, but

647
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: he also been doing it a lot longer than me.

648
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: We'll see, right, But it's not interesting to me.

649
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: But is that the only thing we have is a

650
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: case study for SKIP not being able to track viewers.

651
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: Skip get a rotating guest list.

652
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman, Jalen Rose, Max Kellerman, Keithshawn Johnson, Michael Orvin

653
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: and Skip every day. Come on, bro, you ain't got

654
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: to lie, Craig, you ain't got to lie. We watching

655
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: some of that, if not all of that, come on ESPN,

656
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: messed up separately. These guys are okay. When these two

657
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: guys are together, it's a perfect match. I hear some

658
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: of that. Richard Sherman to undispute it. Richard Sherman would

659
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: have actually challenge Skip baylists unlike most of the other

660
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports.

661
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the scary part.

662
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: Not because Joy ain't feisty and fiery and could push back.

663
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: I cho ain't gonna fight back and try to out

664
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: articulate them and drop jewels. It's the fact that they

665
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: also they also know that's like, that's like going at

666
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: Tom Brady on the Patriots of the Bucks, Like be

667
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: careful in practice how you touch them right, Like this

668
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: is gonna be live on TV.

669
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: I want a debate. I want to debate. Yeay, yay.

670
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: And this is something that led bled into Shannon, like

671
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: they don't they don't discipline Skip over there, not yet

672
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: it ain't happening.

673
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: So you go in on Skip Skip don't like it

674
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: for whatever reason.

675
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: Oh that that gavel, Yeah yeah, that's your head right there,

676
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: so you may win these arguments in these battles, but

677
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose that war. That is an interesting point.

678
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: I think it's smart for him to have a revolving door.

679
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: Guess yeah, particularly ex athletes, some who are on more

680
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: regular than others, hope to see Wiley on there.

681
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: Now that ain't happening.

682
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: Man, we got two different like flavors, if you know

683
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

684
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: I think he's a good fit. He's articulate, can debate

685
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: with the best of them. But can he talk hoops?

686
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: You gotta be a jack of all trades to do

687
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 1: undisputed Can Richard Sherman talk hoops? I've not heard him

688
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: ever talk hoops, but look, that's how they pigeonhole you.

689
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: When I first got to Broadcast Network, I talked football,

690
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: third and goal, only talk third and goal. I was like, man,

691
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: first of all, I'm gonna talk about the club, I'm

692
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: gonna talk about the players, I'm gonna talk about the ladies,

693
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: and I ain't gonna talk about third and go. That's

694
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: why I was on Sports Nation that fast. ESPN smears

695
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: Will Kane at Espie's I hate and can't stand Will Kane,

696
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: but I absolutely agree with him on this issue. Why

697
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: ask for equal pay if you are not bringing in

698
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: the revenue to deserve it. I just don't understand that

699
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: thinking whether it's from a female perspective or male perspective.

700
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm not a Will Kine fan, but what ESPN did

701
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: was superfould. That's just what ESPN does. The days of

702
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: them allowing anything to interfere with their virtue signal have

703
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: been gone for some time now. Two things y'all hate

704
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: Will Kane Like, I have not seen Will Kine do

705
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: anything on air since I work with him at ESPN.

706
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: All right, full disclosure, but I love my time working

707
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: with him. He was smart sucker there, could weave lawyer like.

708
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: It was like dag them. Arguments were different, like you

709
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: debate Will Kane. One he going all in, two he

710
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: going hell along with it. I was like, damn, this

711
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: is impressive and I liked him as a person, right,

712
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: but is it just Fox News or y'all.

713
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: Gotta put it like this?

714
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: Put something in the comments that I could see that

715
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: I would be like, why people hating on Will Kane?

716
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: Because I was like, damn, I like Will Kane, but

717
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: I haven't watched him and checked him in a long time.

718
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: All right, y'all know what we're about to do. Now,

719
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm about to ban a white it and bring in

720
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. Oh yeah, it's time to bring

721
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: in the cobra. I hope that cobra snake don't bite there.

722
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 1: He is cobra cons up in the building.

723
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: What it do? Cobra? You mute it, man, you ghet them.

724
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 4: It's Monday, marcellus, It's Monday, but you know it's not

725
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 4: any Monday. It's uh, make that Monday Monday.

726
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: So here it is. I have two.

727
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 4: I got two Jeffrey style questions for you, A three

728
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 4: hundred dollars. You know the five gonna be more challenged. Oh,

729
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 4: it's gonna be jeff answer. You give me the question. Example, example,

730
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 4: the person that consistently beats you and pick a ball

731
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 4: and you'll work with who is bro And then you'll

732
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 4: talk about like, you know, how gout there like Carlton

733
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 4: dancing and all that.

734
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 2: So are you Jeopardy? I get it? He hold on?

735
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: Can I donate the three hundred and five hundred to

736
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: your WiFi right now because it seems like you need it,

737
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: like you're prepaying.

738
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 2: Man, it ain't the best, but well Twitter that's the

739
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: twist that a me. That's the end. I love it.

740
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's know, I drop my ear by right three?

741
00:35:46,800 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: You ready? What? All right? Here? Every here you go,

742
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 2: I'm back hello, all right? All right?

743
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, the player, the NFL player from any era that

744
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 4: you would take to lead your franchise.

745
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: Damn, it's not even my favorite players are the best players.

746
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: The best players to me are like Bruce Smith, Barry Sanders,

747
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders. But to lead my franchise, ah god, I mean,

748
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: I gotta take a quarterback. I ain't stupid. I would

749
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: take Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning be my first pick overall

750
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: NFL history. The number one overall pick would be Peyton Manning.

751
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: That's sucker. A leader, that sucker. The slang it.

752
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna win a whole lot of Oh.

753
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 4: Man, I guess I'm the idiot just because I'm a

754
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 4: full team sport, you know what I mean, And one

755
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 4: player can make it impact. But man, I would love

756
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 4: to have Dann on my squad. Man going both ways,

757
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 4: But you know I respect your answer.

758
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally. Look.

759
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: Look a shut down corner that could do other things

760
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: to be versatile like that. Great leadership of course, at

761
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: the same time, the only thing would be, like, man,

762
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: I could see where Dion makes some players think they

763
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: could get away with more than they can, Like like,

764
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: because Peyton mann is so tightly wound, you gotta get

765
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: in line with Dion. You be like, Oh, he ain't

766
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: even tripping, but that's how he is, and that's how

767
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: he gets going, that's how he gets rolling.

768
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: Don't try and do that.

769
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: You'll say, if you try that, you're gonna be too

770
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: loose and they're gonna be prepared.

771
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: So I'll take Peyton Manning, all right.

772
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 4: So the five hundred dollars question why the w NBA

773
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 4: revenue is only sixty million compared to the NBA's ten

774
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 4: built being.

775
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: The biggest reason you asked because it's just a bad product, bruh.

776
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: Like like you know, like I feel feel weird that

777
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm compelled so many times to answer and fix their problem.

778
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: Like when I watch, uh, I watch Dog the.

779
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: Dog challenges what is that the dog shows they be

780
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: having on that. I'm like, oh, I just look be

781
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: looking like three seconds too one click, I ain't got

782
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: no time for that. Watch the dog hop over a

783
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: little barrier and go whatever.

784
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: And we do that.

785
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, that ain't fresh to me. And you know what,

786
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: the WNBA basketball product. I've been to two games.

787
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: I've never seen so many airballs.

788
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: I saw twice the ball under the basket, over the backboard.

789
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can do that, and I suck at basketball.

790
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: I don't even like how the ball look. I don't

791
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: like that nobody out there ain't banging on nobody. And

792
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: then you watch college and you're like a little more interested,

793
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: Like it's just a whole different animal. They play different defense,

794
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: so the offensively it's a different structure. But I just

795
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: think it's just a bad product. And then also like

796
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: they're not marketing it correctly.

797
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: Remember when, and.

798
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: This is to my point, Tyler Skyler Diggins, is that

799
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: her night Skyler Diggins when she left college. I remember

800
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: I went to the SB She sat right behind me.

801
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: I didn't know who she was and all that. She's

802
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: like Gatorade Player of the Year and just big time,

803
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: and then they put the camera on her and everybody

804
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: in the crowd was like, WHOA, she's beautiful, WHOA she's

805
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: a baller, Like I mean from Star at the Star,

806
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: just looking like damn, that's gonna be amazing. She's that

807
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: good and that beautiful and that charismatic. Is a rap

808
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: who Skylar Diggings played for right now?

809
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: Anybody?

810
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: It's just crazy man, they like it's the black hole dog.

811
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: It's just people go in there and disappear.

812
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 2: Its weird to me.

813
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty sad man. Hey, appreciate you time again.

814
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on. Hey have a good woman.

815
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: All right, you better head to the T mobile store

816
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 1: or something right now. Dang that broke by my dogar

817
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: appreciate it, Cobra all right, Mikey P coming in here.

818
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: Let's hope his check clear and then his WiFi works.

819
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: Let's see it. Come on, Mikey P.

820
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I think I'm in the clear.

821
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: You're in the clear, baby? Would it do? All right?

822
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 3: Well, you know, we gotta talk about this. DeAndre Hopkins

823
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: signed with the Tennessee Titans.

824
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? All right?

825
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 3: Two years, twenty six million dollars. It can go up

826
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 3: to thirty two mil with incentives. Social media was not

827
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 3: thrilled with him though, all right, especially on Patriot fans

828
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 3: who were feeling a little spurned that he didn't pick them.

829
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: So he sent out a tweet which he has since deleted,

830
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 3: saying to sports experts at an analyst like, you should

831
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: be mad at your management, not me. Okay, be mad

832
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 3: at your team, all right, But anyway, what do you

833
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: think of d hops moved and it was this a

834
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 3: good choice for him? And then I have a follow

835
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: up after that about the Titans.

836
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: I like the move one.

837
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: We don't know what he was offered, so I wouldn't

838
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: even respond to people who were pushing back at me.

839
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 2: I'm like, you don't know what they offered me, and

840
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: you don't look.

841
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: He may like the quarterback situation, but you don't know

842
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: what he's measuring. I do know that playing for Mike

843
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: Rabel my dog, my homie, we came out the same

844
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: year is an interesting challenge and a better proposition probably

845
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: right now than playing for Bill Belichick.

846
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: That coaching staff is all over the place.

847
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: They go out there without even having coordinators who call

848
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: the plays.

849
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 2: I don't know.

850
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: Somebody will like, you know what I mean, And I

851
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: love me some Belichick. That's the goat of all coaches.

852
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: That said, Matt Jones and weird old coaching staffs, moves

853
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: and and I don't know what they offered, So I

854
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: like it there, Tennessee has been in the thick of things.

855
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: Maybe this is a difference maker, but they you know,

856
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: they did this with Julio Jones, several other big receivers,

857
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson right at the end.

858
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: Like it's kind of how they go.

859
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: It's like it's the last layover before final destination, which

860
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: is retirement. So hopefully it works out better for d

861
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 1: Hop because he's still got more two past than that two.

862
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

863
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 3: See, part of me was hoping, men, if we could

864
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 3: just see d Hop with a good quarterback again. I mean, man,

865
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: I would have loved to see him with Patrick Mahomes

866
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurtz, and that's what everyone was clamoring for. But

867
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 3: instead we got to settle for Ryan Tannehill, who I

868
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 3: don't know how much he's got left at this point.

869
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 3: He was a little hurt last year. But this leads

870
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,479
Speaker 3: me to the Titans. Okay, what are they doing? Because

871
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone knows. It seemed like prior to

872
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 3: the season, you know, into the draft and everything, it

873
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 3: seemed like they were heading into a rebuild. They were

874
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 3: even considering offloading Derrick Henry and Ryan Tannehill for that matter.

875
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: But he's got an albatrosso of a contract. So now

876
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: they go out and sign d Hop, So what are

877
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 3: they doing? And then also, if you were willing to

878
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 3: pay that money, right, if you're willing to pay that

879
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 3: money the receiver, why didn't you sign AJ Brown long term?

880
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 3: You know, thank you by so thank you so much Titans.

881
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, why you know, well, Mark one one, you

882
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: gotta be uh, you gotta speculate and you gotta always

883
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: understand that there's more to it than you know. You

884
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: don't know how aj Brown was in Tennessee and people like, no,

885
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: he's amazing in Philly.

886
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 2: I was like, you didn't answer the question how was

887
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: he in Tennessee?

888
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: Because it could have been a wake up call to

889
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: get traded out of there. And now all of a

890
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: sudden he tight, you know what I mean, that's happened. Also,

891
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: what he was asking for and then what he was

892
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: asking for is too much for Tennessee, but it's fine

893
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: for d Hop. You see what I'm saying, Like, we

894
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: don't make proper analogies. Most things that people actually make

895
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: analogies are not analogolous, right, They just they they actually

896
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: think they answered the question because.

897
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: They say, look, at him. Now, I was like, but

898
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: that ain't him, then, you know what I mean?

899
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: So I think that the hop basically said, look, the

900
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: team that won't me got Matt Jones at quarterback and

901
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill at quarterback. Which one would I want to

902
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: ride with? I would ride with Ryan Tannehill as well.

903
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: I would ride with Tennessee more than I would New England.

904
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: And then if they're gonna offer comparable or more so,

905
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: then everybody's like, oh, why ain't you pick New England?

906
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 2: Man?

907
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, ain't there for like what you're talking about?

908
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: You you're talking about New England. You talking about Old England.

909
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: I'm talking about New England. And so I just think

910
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: that we got to keep it leveling.

911
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: That what are they doing. They're doing what thirty one

912
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: other teams are doing. Gonna lose this year, one winner,

913
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: rest of yaard look good, tried it got close, Oh

914
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 2: my god, almost like that's the game. Thirty one losers

915
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 2: in different levels and one winner. So that's what they're

916
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: doing when everybody else is doing the other thirty.

917
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: So, I mean, do you think that they bridge the

918
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: gap with the Jags? Let's say, like, do you think

919
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 3: they'll be competitive in a division, a possible playoff team again,

920
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 3: because they kind of sort of fell off a little

921
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 3: bit last year. But they, I mean two years ago

922
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: they were a number one seed. Correct me if I'm wrong.

923
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: So I mean, yeah, and they just re signed Jeffrey Simmons,

924
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: who's a beast all right, defensive tackle.

925
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're boring me right now, because this is too

926
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: much NFL like x's and o's, like even even the

927
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: NFL live right now. Oh man, I'm be sitting there.

928
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: I'll be sitting there with with Trey Winger. I'll be

929
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: like boring all right, let's talk about something for real,

930
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: like because there's no real answer, so it's fun to

931
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: have this conjecture. The true, the tevy answer is yes,

932
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: they closed the gap. The real answer is you know

933
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: what it is. I don't know, but here we go.

934
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: If Derrick Henry still got some juice because he is

935
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 1: getting a lot of carries and everybody knows the game plan,

936
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: they gonna be something. If it's gonna go where Derrick

937
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: Carrey takes them, because then that opens it up for Tannehill,

938
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: then that opens it up for Hopkins, then that opens

939
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 1: it up for the defense.

940
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: So I hate to put.

941
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: All this weight on King, But King Herry is for you,

942
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 1: simple as that. Other than that, close the gap? How

943
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: about this? This is another thing, man? Maybe this is

944
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: interesting because I don't like the angles up to date

945
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: all that.

946
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: I like this. We don't have to get better.

947
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: Maybe they ain't getting worse, you know what I mean,

948
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: Like if you look at Kansas City, you're like, maybe

949
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: they ain't worse. So people don't even think like this

950
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: in sports, but it's true. Do I gotta get faster

951
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 1: or does he need to get slower? Sometimes both happen

952
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: and I close the gap. Sometimes I stay still, he

953
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: comes to me. Sometimes he stays still, not pass him.

954
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a lot a myriad of ways

955
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: this can go. But I know one way it could go,

956
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: and it could go immediately if Derrick Henry is still

957
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: King Henry.

958
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 3: I'm with you on that. I like your answer, okay,

959
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 3: but you know I gotta speak on behalf the people.

960
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: So I'm just doing my thing over here.

961
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, right, that's all I got for you.

962
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: That dude, my dog I appreciated Mikey p went to

963
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: NFL on me right there.

964
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 2: Nah, that's love.

965
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: I get it, and I'm with it and we all surprised.

966
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: And I think that's why we love sports as well,

967
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: is because before the game, players and fans, thank you,

968
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: Mikey pre looking at the technical directors here, we we

969
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 1: got vacation technical directors.

970
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: Michael P.

971
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: Got on, Yeah, yeah, yeah, gotta slide out. Slide them out.

972
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: Get Mikey b out there, you go.

973
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: All right.

974
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: It's funny that when you look at the game, players

975
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: and fans before the game could get involved in raw rod.

976
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: That's the fun right, every fan, my team gonna beat yours.

977
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: Oh no, they or not.

978
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: I'd be at the stadium at nine o'clock when the

979
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: gate's open, tailgate me and you one hundred dollars on it.

980
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: Let's go and we do all that. Then the game

981
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: then they kicked that ball off and immediately you know

982
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: you lost your money, right, hey, whooping, y'all ass, Same

983
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: thing happened with players, y'all. Ever seen players warm up?

984
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: Just go to the stadium early and watch warm up.

985
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: They all look like they're all pros, right, all all pros,

986
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 1: headphones on, got the beat, so doing these crazy drills.

987
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: You're like, damn, you look good. Guess who he is?

988
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: He ain't playing that day, right, everybody look like an

989
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: all pro and then that ball get kicked off and

990
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: then you realize everybody ain't all all pro.

991
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: Right, That's what I love about it. So to me,

992
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: that's more fascinating.

993
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: And I'm too patient to let that process play out,

994
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 1: but I get it.

995
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 2: It's fun. It's food for Fox.

996
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 1: So let's go and have some fun with it, all right, y'all,

997
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: y'all know we end every show we ended with a y.

998
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 2: Lee is them? There's no there there? WHOA I gotta

999
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: dad off on that one. Oh.

1000
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,959
Speaker 1: I know y'all don't see this, but it's one hundred

1001
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: and eight outside and it's sixty eight in here and

1002
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm still hot. Ah, there's no there there. You know

1003
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: who broke this one down to me?

1004
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: Y'all know him?

1005
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: O Shay Jackson Junior. He doesn't even know he broke

1006
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: it down to me, because that's what I do when

1007
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: I get walisms, whether I create them, which is most

1008
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: of them, or our borrow and take them from them.

1009
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: I'll give you your credit.

1010
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: We did an interview five ten years ago and he

1011
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: was like, man, you know, being ice Cube Son in

1012
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: wa movie, etc. And talking about his journey and he's like, man,

1013
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 1: there's no there there. And he's right, like, for you,

1014
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: whatever it is, money, family, opportunity, whatever it is, as

1015
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: soon as you get it, you know you gotta hit

1016
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: reset and redefine it and redefine your goals. There's no

1017
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 1: there there, no matter what it is, like, Oh man,

1018
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: I just want to make it to the NFL.

1019
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: And as soon as you get drafted, immediately you get

1020
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: hit with.

1021
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: All right, here's training camp, here's your first year, here's

1022
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: your games, and you're like, wait a minute, I just

1023
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: wanted to get to the NFL. And now okay, yay,

1024
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: good for you. We're so happy. Boo boo what you're

1025
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: gonna do now? And it's like, oh, because there's no

1026
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: there there. Once you get to that, you gotta do this.

1027
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 1: So the key is getting that appreciation through that whole

1028
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: process instead of the destination that you arrived somewhere, because

1029
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: trust me, if you're really gonna do this right, no

1030
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 1: matter where you go, what.

1031
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 2: You get, there's no there there. So I thought that

1032
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 2: was amazing.

1033
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: Shout out to my boy, Oh shiite Laker fan to

1034
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: the fullest Clipper fan over here.

1035
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: We bang all the time. But that's my dog.

1036
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: So remember, no matter what your pursuit is, no matter

1037
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: what your goals are, there's no there there.

1038
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: All right, y'all gotta do it.

1039
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: For More to It, check the show notes for all

1040
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: the information on our topics today today. Want to keep

1041
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Speaker 1: the conversation going, Let's talk to find me on all

1042
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1043
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,319
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1044
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1046
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