WEBVTT - The Circle of H2O

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Forward Thinking. Welcome everyone to Forward Thinking. I am your

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<v Speaker 1>host Extraordinaire Jonathan Strickland, and I'm joined by my co

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<v Speaker 1>hosts extraordinaire Joe McCormick and Lauren And today we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to talk a little bit more about water. Right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So when I was a kid, I remember hearing about

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<v Speaker 1>water scarcity awareness. Uh at my school. Every now and

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<v Speaker 1>then somebody would come in and tell us something really scary,

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<v Speaker 1>like the hot dogs you're eating are going to give

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<v Speaker 1>you cancer? Or well high school did you go to?

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<v Speaker 1>This was elementary? Part of this explains a lot about you, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>I was very terrified of hot dogs for a while. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were so delicious. Getting back to water, though,

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<v Speaker 1>we heard there was a problem with water, but there

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<v Speaker 1>was a scarcity issue, you know, how do you get water?

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<v Speaker 1>And our remember getting this impression when I was a

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<v Speaker 1>kid that the water was going somewhere, like going away,

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<v Speaker 1>like leaving right, that we're like, we're running out of

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<v Speaker 1>water in the same way that say we're running out

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<v Speaker 1>of coal, right, So, so like like there's one giant

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<v Speaker 1>water tank somewhere and that level is going down and

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<v Speaker 1>when it's out, it's gone exactly. But of course that's

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<v Speaker 1>not true at all. We're not running out of water

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<v Speaker 1>in the way we're running out of coal. But water

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<v Speaker 1>scarcity is a huge issue. So what is the deal?

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<v Speaker 1>So we have to understand things like regionalization. We have

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<v Speaker 1>to understand how much water is accessible at any given time,

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<v Speaker 1>how much of that water is usable, because just because

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<v Speaker 1>you can access it doesn't mean you can actually use it.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, so we mentioned in an earlier podcast that

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<v Speaker 1>that more than of the water on Earth, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it is saltwater. So that's not not

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<v Speaker 1>can't drink it, you can't use it in agriculture, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have to process it first in order to

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<v Speaker 1>use it, and of course that requires UH energy outputs.

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<v Speaker 1>So if it takes more energy to make fresh water

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<v Speaker 1>from saltwater than it would to get fresh water through

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<v Speaker 1>some other means, then it doesn't make sense to use desalination. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But but really the issue with water scarcity UH is multifaceted. UH,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe you you mentioned it in the script that you

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<v Speaker 1>wrote for Forward Thinking, the video series UH that the

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<v Speaker 1>law of the fresh water that exists out of that

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<v Speaker 1>less than three. A lot of that is not even

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<v Speaker 1>accessible to us because of where it is. That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of it's locked up in ice caps or

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<v Speaker 1>in glaciers. A lot of it is under the ground

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<v Speaker 1>in places we can't access, or it's in tree bark

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<v Speaker 1>and other people's flesh. So unless you're a sparkly vampire,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, water is everywhere, but there's only so much

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<v Speaker 1>that we can get to and use in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that's safe and helpful to the things we want to

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<v Speaker 1>use it for. And once we have used it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a huge cost process to get it back to a

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<v Speaker 1>usability point again. Right right, In other words, that scarcity

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<v Speaker 1>thing that that leaving the faucet on for too long,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that that water is going away, it's that

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to a place where it's going to require

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<v Speaker 1>processing before we could ever use it as safely again.

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<v Speaker 1>So that means that it's an energy issue, right. You

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<v Speaker 1>can think about it kind of like laundry. Like when

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<v Speaker 1>you wear a shirt or a pair of underwear, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't exhaust it. It's not that you can never use

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<v Speaker 1>it again. You haven't seen how I wear a shirt,

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<v Speaker 1>But you've got to run it through a washing machine

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<v Speaker 1>and a dryer and and then fold it or hang

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<v Speaker 1>it up before you can use it again, right right,

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<v Speaker 1>so that it requires energy before you can use it,

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<v Speaker 1>at least in a socially acceptable way. Some people I

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<v Speaker 1>know go a long time between washes. I've never met

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<v Speaker 1>anyone like that at Dragon Conhor. Yeah, there's also a

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<v Speaker 1>local scarcity issue. The world isn't going to run out

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<v Speaker 1>of water. I mean, there's a closed system, and we

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<v Speaker 1>can talk about that in a minute, but they're truly

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<v Speaker 1>local water scarcity issues. And the water isn't leaving the planet,

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<v Speaker 1>but in one particular place it might suddenly run dry. Sure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you might have a natural disaster that causes a certain

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<v Speaker 1>area of the of the planet to have less access

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<v Speaker 1>to fresh water than did before, or just climate change

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<v Speaker 1>over time can cause that to happen, or simply over irrigation,

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<v Speaker 1>if you just take too much water out of the

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<v Speaker 1>aquifers around you and you drain them dry suddenly, then

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a big local agriculture problem. Sure yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is again we're not saying that the water

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<v Speaker 1>is leaving. It's still on Earth. It's just no longer

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<v Speaker 1>accessible in that particular area. And uh, and you were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a closed system. That's a good point.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's the water isn't leaving Earth, at least not

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<v Speaker 1>in any great quantities. Oh wait, so if it's a

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<v Speaker 1>closed system, how did it get here in the first place. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out there's a giant faucet on the side

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<v Speaker 1>of Mount Everest. Someone. No, that's totally a lie. Um. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually a good question, and we don't know for

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<v Speaker 1>sure the answer. But I was reading something interesting that

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<v Speaker 1>apparently now a lot of scientists think that much of

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<v Speaker 1>Earth's water came from space. So aliens, No, not aliens

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<v Speaker 1>with their big hoses. No, they're saying from asteroid impacts. Okay, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>So asteroids, which I would assume have some asteroids have

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<v Speaker 1>ice on them, collide with the Earth, and that ice

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<v Speaker 1>ends up forming a lot of the water that's here

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<v Speaker 1>on the planet. Right in in two thousand and ten,

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<v Speaker 1>we surveyed the asteroid themUS one of my favorites. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of the best, and it was discovered to

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<v Speaker 1>have a layer of frost on the outside. I see water,

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<v Speaker 1>And so that confirmed that it also was found to

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<v Speaker 1>have organic compounds, like carbon based compounds that some people

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<v Speaker 1>believe could have given the building blocks that seated life

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<v Speaker 1>on Earth. And and so we don't know that. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just hostibility, right, Um, it's a hypothesis, okay. But

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<v Speaker 1>so that this this was all before life started on Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>This was billions, This was about about four billion years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>they think. So that water, however it got to Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it was through an asteroid impact or some other means.

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<v Speaker 1>And again we don't know for sure, but it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the hypotheses that's that that scientists are are

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about. Uh, that water has been here on the

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<v Speaker 1>planet since then, and that water has not gone anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>has gone through different phases. But the water that we

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<v Speaker 1>have now is the same water that was here on

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<v Speaker 1>the planet four billion years ago. It just keeps getting

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<v Speaker 1>recycled through through the clouds and through rain and through rivers, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 1>People and people and velociraptors. That's right, folks. That healthy

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<v Speaker 1>glass of water that you're drinking so that you can

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<v Speaker 1>get up to the eight glasses per day or however

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<v Speaker 1>many it's supposed to be at this point, that very well,

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<v Speaker 1>may have at some point passed through the system of

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<v Speaker 1>a dinosaur almost certainly did. Yeah, yeah, at least some

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<v Speaker 1>molecules in there. You can tell there's a slightly gamy taste. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all supposed to. Yeah, you guys have this obsession

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<v Speaker 1>with giant sharks. They're giant sharks. Okay, fair enough, But

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<v Speaker 1>we're all supposed to drink about about at least half

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<v Speaker 1>a gallon of water a day, all right, So half

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<v Speaker 1>a gallon of water a day. Keeping in mind that

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<v Speaker 1>water has been here on earth for billions of years. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, when you really sit there and think

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<v Speaker 1>about that, that's just amazing. I mean, that's just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of cool to me. The idea that there's that there's

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that we encounter every day that has been here

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<v Speaker 1>for billions of years, that we have our lives depend

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<v Speaker 1>upon this, and it's easy to you know, just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of take it for granted. But this water, if if

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<v Speaker 1>only it really could hold significance, like if the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>it came into contact actually stayed with Yeah, I personally

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<v Speaker 1>from the yeah now and I signed me up, I

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<v Speaker 1>would drink way way, sir, to my daily allotment of

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<v Speaker 1>water instead of say, coffee, if it was imbued with

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<v Speaker 1>megalodon power. Yeah, I honestly do not believe any of

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<v Speaker 1>that is at all possible, which really, really you, I

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<v Speaker 1>really do you want to go down this road, because

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<v Speaker 1>we can talk about about tight trading things down over

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<v Speaker 1>and over and over again until there's no discernible chemical left.

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<v Speaker 1>But I really don't want to go into that, not

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<v Speaker 1>not even in the incredible future, not even in the

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<v Speaker 1>incredible But what is the future of water? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a pretty basic you know. Well, well, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the the futures of water is the idea that if

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<v Speaker 1>we ever decide to get off this rock, like if

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<v Speaker 1>we ever decide to actually try and have either inter

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<v Speaker 1>interplanetary or interstellar travel, then we have to find ways

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<v Speaker 1>of using water in a very very efficient manner and

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<v Speaker 1>being able to recycle water incredibly efficiently, particularly for a

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<v Speaker 1>very long journey, because you're not getting more water once

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<v Speaker 1>you get out there unless you're able to find a

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<v Speaker 1>source like another asteroid or even maybe a planet that

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<v Speaker 1>actually has its own water supplies. So the future of

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<v Speaker 1>water might involve mining asteroids water. That's not so far fetched. Actually, um, well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's already a company called Planetary Resources that has announced

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<v Speaker 1>plans to send up interceptors and mine precious metals and

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<v Speaker 1>water from asteroids, which makes sense. Again, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about any sort of colony on another planet

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<v Speaker 1>or on a moon, then you know, we we can't

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<v Speaker 1>just pack up water from Earth and send it out

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<v Speaker 1>for one thing so expensive, it's really expensive. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>ten ten tho dollars a pound to put things in

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<v Speaker 1>space and half a gallon a day waterways what like

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<v Speaker 1>eight point three pounds of gallons. It's it's pretty expensive

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<v Speaker 1>pretty quickly, that's ten thou pounds of pint. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely more expensive dollars a point, even even more

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<v Speaker 1>expensive than going out and buying a bottled water. Fancy

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<v Speaker 1>kind don't buy bottled water, um, But yeah, mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>an issue where you also don't want to take the

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<v Speaker 1>drinkable water on Earth and sacrifice it so that you

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<v Speaker 1>can build a colony somewhere else. So mining asteroids is

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<v Speaker 1>definitely one of those things that we should look into. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Water in space is essentially going to be crucial. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about water scarcity issues on planet Earth, the

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<v Speaker 1>water planet, you know, the fact that for intent people

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<v Speaker 1>on the water planet are affected by water scarcity issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Think how big of a deal this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>become once you're you're away from the water in the

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<v Speaker 1>vacuum of space, where ten out of ten people will

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<v Speaker 1>be affected by water scarcity exactly, Well by design, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's you think about the the International Space Station.

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<v Speaker 1>What do they do about water? Well, I mean obviously

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<v Speaker 1>that they accept some really expensive water shipments from Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>but they've got to take really good care of the

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<v Speaker 1>water they have. They have extremely advanced recycling systems that

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<v Speaker 1>keep the water. They can't keep it all, They're always

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lose small amounts of it over time and they

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<v Speaker 1>have to get it replenished. But they do their absolute

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<v Speaker 1>technological best to retain whatever water they can. And what

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<v Speaker 1>that means is just like we come back from a

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<v Speaker 1>run and get a tall glass of megalodon blood. They

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<v Speaker 1>sit up there on the International Space Station drinking their

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<v Speaker 1>urine the vapor from their breath. Yes, now, granted all

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<v Speaker 1>of the stuff has been processed. You're not just drinking

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<v Speaker 1>their urine a little bit better than water world, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is going through a recycling process. But yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there they have to recapture the water that they are expending,

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<v Speaker 1>either through breathing or urination or whatever. And and then uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know or even you know, sweat, that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all stuff that has to be captured and recycled

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<v Speaker 1>in a way to make it usable. Again, technology like

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<v Speaker 1>this essentially has to be really good if you're seriously

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about long term space tress. And uh and like

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, yeah, of course, mining water from asteroids is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a big deal. And that's actually more important,

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<v Speaker 1>um than just getting the drinking water. The water we

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<v Speaker 1>need for hydration and stuff like that. If we're really expanding,

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<v Speaker 1>we need water for all kinds of things other than

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<v Speaker 1>just drinking. Right, you can, um, if you can extract

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<v Speaker 1>water from an asteroid, you could potentially manufacture rocket fuel

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<v Speaker 1>in space. That's pretty cool because it's hydrogen and oxygen.

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<v Speaker 1>You can make your liquid hydrogen propulsion. Yep. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>uh and also I mean clearly you would need water

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<v Speaker 1>for things if you ever, if we ever developed technology

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<v Speaker 1>advanced enough to do something like terraforming of water, would

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<v Speaker 1>would be a key critical Yeah. Yeah, yeah, So obviously

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<v Speaker 1>they're just going to be uh, you know, space space

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<v Speaker 1>may very well be where where the water from Earth

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<v Speaker 1>came from originally, like outside of the actual planet's creation space,

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<v Speaker 1>may very well be where we look to to get

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<v Speaker 1>water in the future, especially for when we're traveling out

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<v Speaker 1>there and saying hello to distant neighbors. Not that I've

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<v Speaker 1>received any phone calls or anything, No, they communicate telepathically.

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<v Speaker 1>Well anyway, it's really a neat thing to think about.

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<v Speaker 1>And and yeah, I I encourage you all to sit back, relax,

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy a tall glass of Megala don juice, uh, like

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<v Speaker 1>like my co hosts are have in front of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh. And you know, if you have any particular

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<v Speaker 1>topics about the future that you find really exciting, something

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<v Speaker 1>really has you uh energetic and ready to go? And

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