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Speaker 1: buck down, Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces?

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Speaker 1: All that was nasty, right there? Rights the latest news

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Speaker 1: and notes from the guys who cover the teams. Rilled

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Speaker 1: by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is bawling, Bring it on, Bring

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Speaker 1: it on. Slam the ground by Fota Baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 1: He came flying into the backfield. I scared and nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic all right, So you guys, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at the clock here, and I do mean the clock.

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Speaker 1: As the seconds tick off, You guys have just a

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Speaker 1: matter of shopping days left, but that's not your biggest concern.

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Speaker 1: Your biggest concern is today. Do you guys know what

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Speaker 1: today is? Exactly, Felipe A Corral junior Darren Urban Poly

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Speaker 1: podcast today is I'm just gonna answer it because I

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Speaker 1: can tell you're bewildered right now at the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: You don't know what you're looking at. There's an exotic

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Speaker 1: blitzkiing coming your way and you've never seen it before,

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Speaker 1: your rookie quarterback. It's moving too fast today, Felipe, is

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Speaker 1: the winter solstice. Do you know what that means? It's

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Speaker 1: the day with the shortest amount of daylight? Okay, And

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, in fact, you know what I have the

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Speaker 1: it's right if you want more detail on that. And

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard either one of you asked for it,

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Speaker 1: but I'll give it to you any It's the precise moment, Darren,

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Speaker 1: of the winter solstice where the Earth's northern hemisphere has

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Speaker 1: tilted furthest away from the Sun, resulting in the year's

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Speaker 1: shortest day. See, I gotta be honest when you ask me.

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Speaker 1: With Christmas so close, but what am I concerned about today?

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Speaker 1: I thought the answer was going to be COVID. I

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Speaker 1: thought no. I thought COVID was always the answer, especially

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Speaker 1: around the NFL. Right now, well, that's sort of a given.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the default. Okay. I'm trying to tell you

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Speaker 1: about just what's singular to today. And I bring this

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Speaker 1: up because maybe, just maybe maybe, you know, Darren, if

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Speaker 1: be a lead into one of your fine columns and

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Speaker 1: acy Cardinals dot com. Perhaps the Cardinals season has been

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Speaker 1: emulating the amount of daylight that as as as the

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Speaker 1: daylight has waned in decrease, so we'll have the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: But now there truly is a new dawn, because every

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Speaker 1: day after today there's gonna be a little more daylight

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Speaker 1: out there in sunshine. And maybe, just maybe that'll mimic

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Speaker 1: the path of the Cardinal season instead of just the moon.

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Speaker 1: See again, early day, early nighttime. I'm thinking Philippe going

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Speaker 1: and hitting the bars earlier. So but that actually makes

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Speaker 1: some sense, paul I, I could understand where you're going

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Speaker 1: with that. Where the what's the saying the night as

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Speaker 1: always darkest before the dawn or something like that. I'll

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Speaker 1: go with you on that. You're not working with me,

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Speaker 1: but I'll work with you well, I appreciate that. You know,

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Speaker 1: you've always been a better man than I, but I

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Speaker 1: Right light or no light, Please let that light at

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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, Christmas is this Saturday, and my shopping

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Speaker 1: you know what, you know what the cardinals could help

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Speaker 1: on giving, which would be a win on Christmas, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean you wouldn't even have to wrap that sucker.

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Speaker 1: But see, not just to win, but a playoff Berth

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Speaker 1: Paul and Felipe, I believe in my heart of hearts,

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Speaker 1: But most importantly, I think, and this is just my opinion, obviously,

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Speaker 1: quote unquote, I was the first one to say that. True.

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Speaker 1: because if something's been working for the first I want

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Speaker 1: to say, thirteen weeks, I know against the Ramsey and

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Speaker 1: they failed a couple of those fourth down conversions. But

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Speaker 1: if something's been working for the majority of the season,

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Speaker 1: like why would you change up what's happening? And that

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Speaker 1: goes to my point of they don't necessarily have to reinvent,

433
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Speaker 1: you know, an offense without DeAndre Hopkins. And I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of the reason why they struggled to find

435
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Speaker 1: it once again was because in the games that they

436
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Speaker 1: didn't have DeAndre Hopkins, they also didn't have Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about, you know, the Seahawks, the Panthers, and

438
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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers where they dominated, and a lot

439
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Speaker 1: of the reason they dominated was because of the run games.

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Speaker 1: So I think between Chase Edmonds and James Connor and

441
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: they had three rush attempts in the first half thirteen

442
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Speaker 1: yards total on the ground. So that just goes to

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Speaker 1: tell me that they just have to find that that

444
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Speaker 1: formula to play without a DeAndre Hopkins. I will say this,

445
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Speaker 1: the rushing attempts I know people brought up the first time.

446
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: I mean they had six plays in the first freaking quarter.

447
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not going to get a bunch of

448
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Speaker 1: rushing attempts or they didn't have any plays. They didn't

449
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Speaker 1: have any passing attempts either, And I will say that, like,

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Speaker 1: can you can you talk about some of the play calls.

451
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Speaker 1: I mean even Cliff is saying I wish I would

452
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Speaker 1: have done some things differently. That's fine. I was getting

453
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Speaker 1: fire vance Joseph and Cliff Kingsbury is the worst play

454
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: call over all time after one drive each in the game,

455
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: which is ridiculous. But like my question is is like, Okay,

456
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Speaker 1: what was wrong with the play calls on the first

457
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Speaker 1: three and out? Okay, there was a there was a

458
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: zone read and Murray read that to keep it instead

459
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Speaker 1: of handed off. That's what he saw. Didn't get a

460
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 1: lot of yards you throw on second down to put

461
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Speaker 1: you in a very manageable third and four. I don't

462
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Speaker 1: see anything wrong with that. You get a bad false

463
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: start penalty which makes it third and long, and then

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Speaker 1: you get any completion. I mean, I don't understand what

465
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Speaker 1: he did wrong on that first drive in particular, and

466
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Speaker 1: I know we have a long way to go after that,

467
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Speaker 1: but that's the kind of thing that I get frustrated

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Speaker 1: on right now. Is like you can't well, look, if

469
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Speaker 1: Kyler is pressing and the head coach, the play caller

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Speaker 1: is pressing to some degree. How much of it has

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Speaker 1: to do with the offensive line, How much of it

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Speaker 1: has to do with a quarterback perhaps not feeling as

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Speaker 1: comfortable as he once did back there, as protected as

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Speaker 1: he once did. Is he truly keeping his eyes down

475
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Speaker 1: field at all times or as half an eye on

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Speaker 1: his pass protection so he doesn't get his head ripped

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Speaker 1: off by either Aaron Donald or at Charles Harris. I mean,

478
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Speaker 1: he doesn't have Rodney Hudson in there. It was interesting

479
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: because we had Calvin Beacham on the Big Red Rage

480
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Speaker 1: and we talked about a lot of different things, and

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Speaker 1: we brought up the absence of Rodney Hudson going into

482
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Speaker 1: the Lions game because of COVID, and he said, look,

483
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 1: I love my receivers and I loved hop and there's

484
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Speaker 1: probably no receiver better. But for me, the big losson

485
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Speaker 1: offense is Rodney Hudson. He's our alpha male who anchors

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Speaker 1: the entire offensive line. So now if you have a

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Speaker 1: backup at center, you have a guy at right guard

488
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Speaker 1: who's been benched earlier in the year, and your pass

489
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Speaker 1: protection isn't what it once was. Guess what the accuracy

490
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Speaker 1: and decision making of your quarterback is probably going to

491
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Speaker 1: mimic your offensive line to some degree. Well, wasn't there

492
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Speaker 1: a lot of situations where that specific drive was manageable?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Tyler Murray has played under center with Max Garcia,

494
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Speaker 1: He's played and with an offensive line that has had

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Speaker 1: Sean Harlofflet at left guard. He's played with Josh Jones

496
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Speaker 1: at right and guard, and not even to mention how

497
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: that Detroit Lions defense is not impressive at all. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know it might have seemed like week in week fifteen,

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Speaker 1: but heading into that game, there's nothing. There's no one

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Speaker 1: on that on that defense that you can point out

501
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: and say, hey, you need to protect this guy. Right,

502
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Speaker 1: So Calamary has played in this situation before. Again, I

503
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: just think it goes back to him. I think kay

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Speaker 1: One was pressing, you know. I remember that Texans game

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Speaker 1: when he was wired and this was published on Arizon

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Speaker 1: Carno's YouTube channel, and I believe they whether it was

507
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Speaker 1: that sack that caused the safety or if he threw

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Speaker 1: an interception. But he went back to sit next to

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Speaker 1: quote McCoy and he said, I just want to play

510
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Speaker 1: turnover free. So I think that's that's where the pressing comes.

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Speaker 1: That's where the pressing came. On Monday Night Football, he's

512
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Speaker 1: on primetime. He I feel like he's putting a lot

513
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Speaker 1: of this pressure on himself to play at a high level,

514
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Speaker 1: and feel like once he gets old of that hump,

515
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Speaker 1: once he gets back into rhythm, coming off that bye week,

516
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Speaker 1: coming off that injury. I know he played when he

517
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 1: threw fifteen passes against the Bears. I don't think that's

518
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Speaker 1: enough to get you back into rhythm. Once he gets

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Speaker 1: over that mental hump, I think he'll be fine. And look,

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Speaker 1: you came out on the first play of the game

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Speaker 1: and Jordan Phillips sacks Jared Goff. They're behind the sticks

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Speaker 1: one play into the game. And that's exactly we were

523
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Speaker 1: talking to Drew stan about on the pregame show, former Lion's,

524
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Speaker 1: former Cardinals quarterback. When you're going against a one win

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Speaker 1: team in December, you have to remove any hope, any

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Speaker 1: confidence that they have a chance. These are guys are

527
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Speaker 1: already making their postseason plans, they're booking their flights after

528
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Speaker 1: the last regular season game. You have to let them

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Speaker 1: know from the get go you have no chance. You're

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Speaker 1: a one win team or a ten win team. You

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Speaker 1: can't let them build confidence, which is exactly what Denver

532
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Speaker 1: did the week before. Taking a quick fourteen nothing lead.

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Speaker 1: They have eleven first downs in the first quarter of

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Speaker 1: the Lions head zero. They had one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: five Tolder yards. The Lions had negative one in the

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Speaker 1: first quarter. You gotta jump these teams. So you come out.

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00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: You get a sack on the first snap of the game. Okay,

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00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: they're behind the sticks, and all of a sudden they

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Speaker 1: get a chunk run. Now it's third and manageable. They

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00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: get the first down, they get two more first downs

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Speaker 1: pretty soon. It's a nine minute drive, and they believe

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00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 1: and they think, you know what, it's the old Rocky

543
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: line from Rocky One. He doesn't know it's a show.

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00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: He thinks it's a fight, and all of a sudden,

545
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: he sticks around for fifteen rounds and nearly pulls it off.

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00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: And the Lions pulled it off. And that's I think

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Speaker 1: those are all fair you know, I think those are

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00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: all fair points. It doesn't happen sometimes it just doesn't.

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00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: And it's unfortunate. They were lucky enough in Jacksonville to

550
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: basically do the same thing, and yet they turn it up,

551
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: they got down five nothing, they were shut in the

552
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: first quarter against Houston, and what do they do thirty

553
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: one unanswered. They were able to flip the switch in

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Speaker 1: a couple of those games. So you know, again it's over.

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Speaker 1: You know, as you said earlier, Paul, it's it's tough

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00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: to even discuss. I mean, the one thing you got

557
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: going for you is you don't have to worry about

558
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: playing a team like that the rest of the way.

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00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: The next two games are against very strong opponents. The

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00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: last game against Seattle. I don't know where the Seahawks

561
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: are going to be mentally, but I don't really cares

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00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: as long as they have Russell Wilson back there. And

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00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: we know how these series go. And the number of

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00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: times the Cardinals were the crappy team quote unquote and

565
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: played a good Seahawks team and either made it a

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00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: game or upset the Seahawks. I mean, I'm sure the

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00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: Cardinals will know about that. Seattle's one eight to the

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00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: last nine in the easy something ridiculous like that. Seven

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Speaker 1: of the last eight in Arizona. Yeah, I mean, wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Last year was the second loss by Russell Wilson since

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Speaker 1: he was a rookie. So maybe it's seven of the

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Speaker 1: last nine second loss Seattle since he was a rookie,

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Speaker 1: or the second loss, so I think so. So we've sandwiches,

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Speaker 1: So we've we've got sandwich Russell Wilson losses that you're

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Speaker 1: telling Paul, that's good. Yeah, I'm just saying Seattle comes

576
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: in and this is like a bowl game for them.

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00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: They love playing in Arizona. They're flying around coach double

578
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: rainbow as the guys all fired up, and it works.

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00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: So to Darren's point, Look, if there's one thing that

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00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: gives me just great comfort and joy coming off a

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00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: lackluster or loss like the Motown, it's the fact I

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00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: can look at the standings, I can print them out.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I put them right up in my cubicle.

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00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: I printed them out, and they're Seattle in last place.

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00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: They're just something reassuring and comforting in this time and

586
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: need when you see the Seahawks in last place. But

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00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: doesn't the final team in that play in that wildcard spot.

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00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: Don't they only have like six wins? I believe it.

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00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm shared this the possibility that the Seahawks. Seahawks I believe,

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00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: have to win out They're not mathematically limited. No, not yet.

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00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: Nobody is hardly hardly. I think maybe the Lions maybe, yeah,

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00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: And only one team is clinched in that's Green Bay.

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00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the reality is is right now, the Cardinals

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00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: could still be caught by the forty nine ers and

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00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: for the division lead, now, the forty Niners would have

596
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: to win out and the Cardinals would have to lose out.

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00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: And I don't think that's going to happen. But look,

598
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: the Niners lost four in a row at one point,

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00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: the Titans. Now I've lost three out of four Tampa

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00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: just at a ridiculous loss. The Dolphins have won seven

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Speaker 1: straight after starting what one in seven row and seven

602
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: So it's all about playing your best ball. The question

603
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: is can the Cardinals get back to that? I mean, Felipe,

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00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: you know we like to ask the locker room change

605
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: so much your confidence, lovel what's your confidence level? The

606
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals can get back to being a team that

607
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: rightfully has the best record in the NFL. Well, everything's

608
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: in front of them, right We talked about it in

609
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Speaker 1: these first couple of minutes on this podcast. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I do have confidence because I had the opportunity to

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00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,479
Speaker 1: sit down with Jordan Higgs for a long conversation, and

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Speaker 1: I asked them, you know, what's the difference between that

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00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: Super Bowl team you're on with the Eagles and the

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00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: team this year, Because there's a lot of similarities, right, talent, record,

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00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: veteran leadership, and that's what he pointed to. He pointed

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00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: that the veterans in that locker room, they play the

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00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: game with a certain amount of effort. And he touched

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00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: on the zach Ertz, he touched on the Challenge Jones, Za, Buddha, Bakers,

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00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: all the main guys have to play better. And they

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00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: have a lot of these veterans in that locker room

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Speaker 1: that have been in those positions. They've been to the playoffs,

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00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: there's super Bowl champions. You talked to Challenge Jones, Max Garcia,

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Speaker 1: zach Ertz, Jordan Hicks himself. So and that's the biggest

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00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: difference between last year and this year. You know a

625
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: lot of people would like to bring up the similarities

626
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: based off the struggles in these last forty five weeks,

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00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: but you know, last year, they didn't have a zach Ertz.

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Speaker 1: Last year, they didn't have a Rodney Hudson. Last year,

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Speaker 1: they didn't necessarily have a JJ Watt in the locker room,

630
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: so I think it's not too late. I think they're motivated.

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Speaker 1: Like I mentioned earlier about the implications of these next

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00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: three weeks, Cults clinching. You win against the Cults, you

633
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: clinch a playoff birth, you beat Dallas, you're ahead of

634
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: him in the standings, you beat the Seahawks, you potentially

635
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: win the division with that wind. So there's a lot

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00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: of a lot on the line. I think a lot

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00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: of those veterans know that in the locker room, and

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00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: if there's someone that's going to lead them, it's Jordan Hicks.

639
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: I mean, when something isn't going to the team's way,

640
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: who's sucking in the media, it's Jordan Hicks being honest

641
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: about how it was a game, Unkirk, there is a game.

642
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: He was blunt, he was honest. So we'll just have

643
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: to see if that veteran leadership really steps up. Cliff

644
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: kings Perry used the word pissed right to describe what

645
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: it was like in the locker room. Zach Allen told

646
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: us everyone was just in a state of shock. That's

647
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: what I saw. I didn't see palpaball Anger at least

648
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: I didn't winness that, but I did see a lot

649
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: of shock guys just sort of like, Okay, wait a minute,

650
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: what just happened? We just lost to the Lions and

651
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: it really wasn't close. What And Jordan Hicks, to his credit,

652
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: got up in the postgame press conference and there wasn't

653
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: a trace of panic. In fact, he was remarkably matter

654
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: of fact about it if you asked me. So, let's

655
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: hope he knows something we don't. And the fact that

656
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: he has his finger on the pulse of that locker round.

657
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: I will say this as somebody was waiting in that

658
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: postgame press conference. Here we go, here's the real story. Cliff,

659
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: Well it's not a real story, but I'm just saying.

660
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury came in fairly soon after the game, did

661
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: his five or so minutes, because that's you know, that's

662
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: what else is there to say. And then we waited

663
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: a long time before any players came through, and Jordan

664
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: Hicks was the first of the last three. It was

665
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: Hicks and then Art after a long time, and then

666
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: another long period of time before Kyler came in. And

667
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons Jordan was able to

668
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: be so matter of fact is because there was definitely

669
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: a let's let's take some time to get our thoughts

670
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: among us, yeah, cool down period, because I don't think

671
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: the message would have been exactly the same had we

672
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: if it had been a regular situation without COVID and

673
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: we would have been able to get into locker room.

674
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 1: I feel like we might have gotten some different things.

675
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, I'm I

676
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: can live with the fact that they they're the cool down,

677
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: but um, that was that was a game that I

678
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: think there was a state of shock. But I also think, uh,

679
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: they kind of had to get their wits about them

680
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: before going public. Well, this team was constructed in the

681
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: off season with leadership in mind. Obviously there are a

682
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: lot of boxes they wanted to check physicality, but leadership

683
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: was a big one. And to me, this is where

684
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: it's critical. It comes from the inside out. I honestly,

685
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: at one point I felt sorry for anyone who would

686
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: be the play caller in this case, Cluff Kingsbury, when

687
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: you're looking behind you and their entire team sitting on

688
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 1: the bench. You know, I joked on the air, I said,

689
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: does somebody want me to go out to the team bus.

690
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: Get the jumper cables. I can run the jumper cables.

691
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: Everyone sit on the metal bench. Okay, everyone's sitting on

692
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: the metal bench. Let's hook up the jumper cables. How

693
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: go ahead and start up the team bust and hit

694
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: the gas. Because if I'm Cliff Kingsbury and I got

695
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: my laminated play sheet, I know you love when I

696
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: do that, Felipe, And I'm like, what exactly do I call?

697
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: That's gonna work? If I don't have the energy and

698
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: the guy's coming off the ball to make nothing virtually nothing,

699
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: And that's where I I think the play callers starts pressing,

700
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: well what do I do here? At laminated things? They

701
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: don't make that noise? Once again? Work with me, Okay,

702
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: it's your gift to me this holiday season could just

703
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: be work with me. Okay you often I still can't

704
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: say no cap without everyone laughing. But you know it's

705
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: a process. I just I'm I'm having these horrible flashbacks

706
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: because you keep talking about the energy thing, and I

707
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: am thinking, Felipe, you were not privy to this last year.

708
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: But I keep thinking back to all the damn zoom

709
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: podcast that we did and all that stuff where like

710
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: every week and maybe we weren't on zoom, maybe we

711
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: weren't here by then, but I don't remember. But every

712
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: week where Paul was talking about, I was down in

713
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: the field and there was no energy. And I was

714
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: down on the field and there was no energy. And

715
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: I was down on the field and there was no energy. Hey,

716
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: and he wasn't wrong, but it was just like, oh

717
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: my god. I was hoping to never go through that again.

718
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: It's true, we're all sick of hearing me say it,

719
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: including myself. You're absolutely right. Let's let's bottom line that.

720
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: So let's hope that's not an element of any of

721
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: these last three games, as Felipe said, we'll find out,

722
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: because if it is their toast, I mean, John, if

723
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: Craig Reynolds rap can come in and run for one

724
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: hundred and twelve yards, what is Jonathan Taylor gonna do

725
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: as the leading rusher in the NFL, maybe the leading

726
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: MVP candidate after Tom Brady and company. Tommy just took

727
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: a face plant and so boom he comes in here.

728
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: I mean, not only does he have the power, and

729
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: he's breaking every single arm tackle and he's running through

730
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: the A and B gaps, but he hit the fastest

731
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: achieved miles per hour of any bulk harrier this year

732
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: at over twenty two miles per hour. This dude is

733
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: the real deal, the complete package is a running back. Yes,

734
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: he's He's absolutely the real deal as the running back,

735
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: and which heightens the urgency because once again, you're a

736
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: national TV and the potential to get embarrassed is huge

737
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: if you don't bring it. Okay, So here's my question

738
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: to you, guys. I was talking to somebody who will

739
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: go nameless, but it is not somebody in the building. Okay,

740
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: so it's has nothing, somebody who has nothing to do

741
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals. Uh, what's your dad have to say?

742
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: Go ahead? Unfortunately my dad passed up. Oh no, oh no,

743
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: oh no, wow. That was my only ho That was

744
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: my only didn't I almost didn't say something because I

745
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: know Paul meant nothing bad by it, and I'm really

746
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm not offended in the least. This This is where

747
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: we established last week that Darren and I don't talk

748
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: enough off Mike, and this is a big business proof

749
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: you want you want to hear. I'm gonna tell a quick, quick,

750
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: funny story. Even even my dad would probably appreciate this.

751
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: So my dad, my dad's been gone for ten years now,

752
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: and he he had cancer and he was in hospice.

753
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: And I can tell this story because enough time has

754
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: gone by, and I'm because I'm an idiot. My wife

755
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 1: still looks at me funny because of this whole thing.

756
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: He passed away about two weeks before the twenty eleven draft,

757
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: and I get the call that, unfortunately I was not

758
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: there when he passed. I was literally twenty minutes away

759
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: from going over. I had left work, gone home, I

760
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: was going to go over to the hospice. And I

761
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: get the call from one of my brothers that he

762
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: passed away. So I drive over there, and I get

763
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: to the parking lot of the hospice and I get

764
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: out and my phone rings and I see out of

765
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: state number, and I'm thinking, maybe it's one of his sisters.

766
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't evenally even think about it.

767
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: So I answer, and God bless him. It was Jeff Hobson,

768
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: who works from Bengals dot Com, who was calling me

769
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: about a pick for his mock draft. Oh boy, now,

770
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: literally my dad is just now again. I knew my

771
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: dad was gonna go sooner. Rather later, so I was

772
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: not in a horribly emotional part. I was much more

773
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: feeling awkward about having to tell anybody I need to

774
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: go because literally my dad just passed away. So I didn't.

775
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: So I literally was on the phone for like five

776
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: minutes talking to Jeff about who I would take as

777
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: the Cardinals with the fifth pick in his mock draft

778
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: because I didn't want to talk about my dad just

779
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 1: having passed away. My wife parked a few cars away

780
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: from me while I'm on the phone. I'm like kind

781
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: of straddling my door, and she comes up on me

782
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: and she sees me on the phone and apparently I

783
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: think he was talking to me at that points, so

784
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything. So she comes up. She's got

785
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: that look on her face like I'm so sorry, assuming

786
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: I'm talking to somebody in the thing. And the first

787
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: words out of my mouth were something like, well, I

788
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: think the Cardinals are gonna take Patrick Peterson because I

789
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 1: don't think there's a quarterback high enough. And the look

790
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: she gave me was like, you am effort. How dare

791
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: you be on the phone about this. I got off

792
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like there was nothing I could do. It

793
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: was awkward. I didn't want to say. It was just

794
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: so long story short. I there's nothing you could do

795
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: to offend me in this situation. Paul. Notice I'm not

796
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: interjecting obviously, I don't even remember why. He oh, my story. Okay,

797
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna out him anymore. He's my son, my younger son, says,

798
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,479
Speaker 1: here's the deal. Dad. He goes, I saw, I saw

799
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: what the Cardinals did against Derrick Henry. He goes, It's

800
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: either gonna they're either gonna about fifty yards to Jonathan

801
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: Taylor or two hundred. And I said, well, I sure

802
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: hope it's fifty. And I guess, going back to what

803
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: you were originally saying, if I didn't completely derail this

804
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: whole podcast and Paul's gonna be all like crying in

805
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: his milk later, I will say that I think this

806
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: team is capable of coming up with a game plan

807
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: to working with the Jonathan Taylor problem. I'm not gonna

808
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: sit here and say he's gonna do nothing, but even oh,

809
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm john a blank on the Bears running back David Montgomery.

810
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: Sure he had a great start. He had like sixty

811
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: yards in the first quarter. He finished with less than

812
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: a hundred. Now they got the lead. But that's duable.

813
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Jonathan Taylor can get seventy to one hundred

814
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: yards and you can still win that game. Dalvin Cook

815
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: ripped his team up, and I know it took a

816
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: last second field goal miss, but you beat the Vikings.

817
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: It's duable to have Jonathan Taylor be okay and still

818
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: win the game. But they've got how to control that.

819
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,479
Speaker 1: He he can't be the end all be all because

820
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: I don't think Carson Wentz beat you. No, he had

821
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: five completions against New England. And the stat on Carson

822
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: Wentz is if he throws thirty five or more passes,

823
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: then it's right here. Thirty five or more passes, then

824
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: guess what. The Colts are winless this year? They are

825
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: Owen five. And when he throws less than thirty five passes,

826
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: they are unbeaten. So it's Owen six and eight. No

827
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: is what when he's thirty five passes or more? Thirty

828
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: five passes or less? So I suppose so. And look,

829
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: God love the Bears and Matt Naggy. No one's studying

830
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: their game film, Okay, So why they went away from

831
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: David Montgomery in a somewhat close game. I have no idea,

832
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: but they did. I can tell you because Cliff Kingsbury

833
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: confirmed on his TV show he watches Colts film a lot.

834
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: He really respects Frank Reich. And yes, it was the

835
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: tight end shovel pass he ripped off from the Colts

836
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: playbook to zach Ertz. And so I just don't see

837
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: Frank Reich abandoning the run with Jonathan Taylor, not without offensively.

838
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: And by the way, if it's third and one, fourth

839
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: and one and you're sensing a quarterback sneak, get ready,

840
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: because how they did it three times, maybe four times

841
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: against the Patriots, and every single time Carson Wentz at

842
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: six five, two hundred something when right behind Quenton Nelson

843
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: they're all pro left guards. It's a good play. Absolutely,

844
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: It's like here it comes, try and stop this because

845
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: that's where he's going. And so I'm just saying it

846
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: right now, get ready for a few quarterback sneaks in

847
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: this game behind Quenton Nelson. Go ahead. I was just

848
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: gonna say. The only concern I have is the Colts

849
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: have one of the best offensive lines in the NFL,

850
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: right you mentioned, and this Cardinal's defensive line who have

851
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: been struggling against the run all throughout the season. Are

852
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: without obviously JJ Watt, Jordan Phillips is day to day.

853
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Jay, I'm thinking it might be a long

854
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: shot for Jordan Phillips or Phillips and you're potentially out

855
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: without Jordan Phillips. Now you're really depending on a core

856
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: interior defensive line chard Lawrence zach Allen, like you vote

857
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: to really essentially limit Jonathan Taylor. I don't think you're

858
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: gonna stop Jonathan Taylor completely, Like he's still My assumption

859
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: is he's gonna get a touchdown, whether it's through air

860
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: on the ground, he's gonna get you sixty plus rushing yards.

861
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: But you really have to limit him. And he ran

862
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: what seventy five I was reading, he had like seventy

863
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: four point five percent of the quotes plays in week

864
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: fifteen where run plays, So that means they're running the ball,

865
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: oh school a ton. So now you have to depend

866
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: on younger interior defensive lineman and that's gonna be where leadership,

867
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: in my opinion, comes into play. That or an eight

868
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: or nine man box, right, I think one of the

869
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: most underrated postgame quotes. And again everybody was paying attention to,

870
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: you know, the overall big picture of what the hell

871
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: happened after the lines. But I think one of the

872
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: underrated quotes of the postgame was Zach Ertz when he

873
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: started talking about and I'm paraphrasing, but I'm fairly close,

874
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: and he basically said, this is a team and a

875
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: defense that's built on us getting a lead. And I

876
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: think that's absolutely true. I think this defense as weird

877
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: as it sounds, because your defense is your defense. I

878
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: think this defense is much better playing with the lead

879
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: than it is trying to hold up and save possessions.

880
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: For this offense, the offense has to score. And this

881
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: Colts defense is no joke either. They're pretty good. And

882
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: by the way, New England's first six possessions two punts,

883
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: two picks, a pun block for touchdown, and then a

884
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: turnover on downs. You cannot turn the ball over. And

885
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: one of the reasons the Colts have lost and when

886
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: they get in trouble with Wentz throwing all those times,

887
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: is because Wentz makes mistakes, whether it's a fumbler an interception.

888
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: So I agree with Ertz, this offense has got to

889
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: figure out a way to get a lead and let

890
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: the defense do what it does. By the way, zach

891
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: Ertz also had something else to say, and we talked

892
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 1: about that on Monday when I was on with Wolf

893
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: and we said, yeah, this defense, you know, it is

894
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: built to play with a lead. There's no doubt about it.

895
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: Zach Ertz also said in a quote, we can't let

896
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: this thing spiral. Momentum is real in the NFL, and bad.

897
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: I thought of Kyle and I thought he come to

898
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: blows with zach Ertz. They don't even know each other.

899
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: Momentum is real in the end. Absolutely, I said, that's

900
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: a bad day right there for the analytics only crowd,

901
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: because last I checked, there doesn't seem to be a

902
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: column in analytics for momentum. So guess what. That's problematic

903
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: when the players don't totally believe in the analytics and

904
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: so they're the ones playing the game and momentum. To

905
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: deny momentum in a game is akin to being a

906
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: conspiracy the or right. So you know, I'm so Kyle

907
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: doesn't believe in momentum. Nope, he says it does not exist.

908
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: And he's not the only one. There's lots of people say,

909
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: but don't the backbone of the movement isn't one of

910
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: the biggest like theories or not theories, but saying, heading

911
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: into the postseason, you have to be peaking, like don't

912
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 1: Isn't that a thing? Yes? Is that every team's planned

913
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: entering the postseason to be playing your best ball, absolutely

914
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: to the point where it's a cliche. Yes, that's momentus.

915
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's an argument of momentum seas.

916
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: But I think what Kyle comes in with the momentum

917
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: thing is his big issue with momentum is and this

918
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: is a great example. Okay, the Lions game. If the

919
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: Cardinals had executed after recovering that fumble, um, everybody would

920
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: have been talking about momentum and everybody was talking about, Oh,

921
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: this this might be the momentum they need. They get

922
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: that fumble, but then he throws the interception. It's like

923
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: they just didn't execute. And honestly, I do get where

924
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: Kyle is coming from. Kyle's got Kyler's got to execute

925
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: that pass that has nothing to do with momentum. Momentum

926
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: didn't have them execute the pass. I mean, supposedly the

927
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 1: Lions were reeling after that fumble recovery and the Cardinals

928
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: had a chance to make it a one score game

929
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: and instead they get an unbelievable play. And for Kyle,

930
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: it comes down to guys making plays. I forget who

931
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: made the interception for the Lions that I'm pretty sure

932
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: it's a name that I was going to have trouble

933
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: pronouncing anyways, But I mean, he just made a fantastic play.

934
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: So what does momentum have to do with it? Didn't

935
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: the Lion score after that that gave them. I mean

936
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: that essentially gave it. But see, that's that's what you're saying,

937
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: his momentum. But it's like, I think back a two

938
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, even though the Cardinals won their last

939
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: game in Seattle, they didn't have really any kind of

940
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: momentum heading into that playoff, but yet they they won

941
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: a big game and then it helped them. And you know, again,

942
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: they won in Carolina not because they had momentum. They

943
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: wanted Carolina because Jake Diloma had the worst game he

944
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:04,479
Speaker 1: had ever played. So right, Well, look, do I believe

945
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: in momentum week to week? No, not really, But momentum

946
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: in a game, perhaps, for example, you get a fourth

947
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 1: down stop like the Lions did at the goal line

948
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: or at the three, and then all of a sudden

949
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: the building comes alive. Yeah, and all of a sudden

950
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: the players are playing a little bit harder. Are you

951
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: a different employee at work when you're working a little

952
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: bit harder? Are you a little more productive? Do you

953
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: execute a little better when the boss is over your shoulder?

954
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: When the boss is over your shoulder? This is for

955
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: anyone in any job at any time. Ever. Are you

956
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: a little more productive when maybe the bosses in the

957
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 1: room than when you're just by yourself completing a Friday

958
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely you are. So these players view this as their job.

959
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: They're not robots. They're not programmed at the same effort

960
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: level at all times, and at different points in different games,

961
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: there's gonna be different levels of effort. Like we just

962
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: saw almost the entirety of the game, or lack thereof

963
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 1: against the Lions, But the boss was there whole time.

964
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to understand, for example, if the boss

965
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: is there every week. Well, here's the thing, though, there's

966
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: comfort in numbers. So when everybody is lackluster, than guess what,

967
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: it's easier for you to be sub optimal as well?

968
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: Is it not. There are only a few guys really

969
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: on the sideline. You want me in her name names.

970
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: There are a few guys in the sideline who got

971
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: really animated and who really tried to break out the

972
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: jumper cables? Can I guess be figuratively? Can I guess

973
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: before you? Yeah? Go ahead, Can I guess Micaus Golden? Yes, yes, yes,

974
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: you're right. That's hanging through. Okay, there are three though,

975
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: he's he's all there, uh, Buddha Baker, Not that I

976
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: saw he might have at different times, not that I

977
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: saw Dennis Gardeck. You know, I thought, honestly, I thought

978
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: Guardeck on one hand, he was among the guys who

979
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: played the hardest, and he you know, I really noticed

980
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: him for the first time on defense all year, and

981
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: he got eighteen defensive snaps. But I didn't see him

982
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: with any sort of one, right. So well, I'm trying

983
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: to I'm trying to think of who might be, Who

984
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: are the who was arguably the best interview on the team,

985
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: who might have the media? Yeah, that's good, wasn't him?

986
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: Jase Edmonds? Jase Edmonds was a guy and the last

987
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: one you probably won't get, but towards the end of

988
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 1: the game, he was on one knee addressing all the

989
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: defensive lineman and it was almost like role reversal. All

990
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: the veteran defensive linemen on the team and there was

991
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: Zach Allen one knee talking to every one of the guys.

992
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: And we'll see he was wired up by the way

993
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: he was miked up. So I'm very curious if that

994
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: made the final cut, if that's gonna be in the

995
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: wired because the visual was really telling and really impressive

996
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: for a guy in his third year who now is

997
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: a stalwart, is getting a lot more defensive snaps at

998
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: d tackle than any other defensive lineman minus J. J. Watt.

999
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: He really is the work getting the workman's load up

1000
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: there and the defensive front he is by far, He's

1001
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: in there number two behind J. J. Watt and and

1002
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe playing more snaps than he but JJ

1003
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: at this point and as we always we've heard forever, right,

1004
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: you can't lead if you can't play. So now that

1005
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: he's playing a lot of snaps and he's being productive,

1006
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: he's growing into that leadership role. He's a great interview.

1007
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: He met the media, you know, and so I apologize

1008
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: Zach for not thinking of you when Paul said a

1009
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: great interview, and he's the guy who last week said

1010
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: we can't hide behind what we've done. Yeah, we're ten

1011
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: and three, we can't hide. Kelvin Beecham was the one

1012
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: who went on the big red rage and said they

1013
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: had talked about it all week in the locker room,

1014
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: which is why it made even more surprising in Detroit

1015
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: when Kelvin Beacham dropped a Wall Street reference and he

1016
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: said past performance does not equate to future results and

1017
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: this team has to learn that. And I think Chase

1018
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: was a guy who tried to express some of that

1019
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: right again with the media, and I think he hopes

1020
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: his teammates were listening to him in the press conference

1021
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: this week when he said, yeah, we fell flat on

1022
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: our face last year and it can't happen again. Well,

1023
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: isn't that offense. Well, I'm pretty sure they're going to

1024
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: be relieved to have a they had Chase Edmond's healthy

1025
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: in week fifteam, but you know that was just getting

1026
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: into rhythm and getting a taste for it once again.

1027
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: But moving forward, I feel like this offense when we

1028
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: talk about peaking, they peaked when Chase Edmonds and James

1029
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: Connor being effective in the roles that they have in

1030
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: that offensive. I'm mistaken there. I mean, I agree when

1031
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: those two are at full strength, this team played its best.

1032
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: I do agree with that, and I do I do

1033
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: think in a lot of ways. With DeAndre Hopkins out,

1034
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: that's where they're going to have to lean. And again,

1035
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: I think that goes back to a little bit and

1036
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: and that saying leaning does not mean all of a

1037
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: sudden they're gonna run forty times a game and be

1038
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: the Colts. That's no, I'm not saying that. But both

1039
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: those guys, obviously with the way James Connor has played,

1040
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: both those guys are excellent receivers. So if if you're

1041
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,959
Speaker 1: getting a quote unquote extended handoff on a little swing

1042
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: pass out of the backfield, all the better, you know.

1043
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: That's that's fine with me. Look, they I think this week,

1044
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: like I said, I think they need to get the rhythm.

1045
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: They need to be smart. They can't panic if the

1046
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: Colts go up seven nothing or ten nothing, although I

1047
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: know the fans probably will. They've got to get a

1048
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: little bit better up front. Errold Donald caused a lot

1049
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 1: of problems and then Detroit whether they were bringing blitzes

1050
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: or whatever it was, there was a protection issue and

1051
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: a run block issue. Some of the time they did

1052
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: get free for a lot of runs, but when Kyler

1053
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: had to run some of the times, now some of

1054
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: that was Kyler's fault. Again, there were times, absolutely when

1055
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm watching from above where Kyler started scrambling looking around

1056
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: and if he just would have thrown the immediate throw,

1057
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: he would have gotten his seven to ten yards. But again,

1058
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: that's where all this rhythm and click comes in. And

1059
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: I do wonder a little bit about Kyler finding that

1060
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: rhythm after all that time off. I mean, is he's

1061
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: still trying to figure that out a little bit? I

1062
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: wonder that. And can I add to the list that

1063
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: the Christmas wish list? Okay, if we're writing deers, Santa,

1064
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: can you restore the pass rush because I think it's

1065
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: taken a toll in the secondary. Not only you minus

1066
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: Alfred right now, and we don't know the future of

1067
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: Robert Alfred, a critical piece of your secondary, but it's

1068
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: two straight games they've given up an inordinate amount of

1069
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: big plays, something we did not see up until the

1070
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 1: Monday night game against the Rams, when they had forty.

1071
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: They had three plays of forty plus yards, and the

1072
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: Cardinals had given up three plays all season at that

1073
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 1: point of forty plus yards, and all of a sung,

1074
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: the big plays are becoming a big problem for this defense.

1075
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: It's not just the run defense, and as we all know,

1076
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: that goes hand in hand with a pass rush, and

1077
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: that hasn't exactly been something to write home about the

1078
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: last couple of games. So there you go. Okay, well, otherwise,

1079
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what. By the way, in case

1080
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: you're wondering, Felipe, you mentioned all the rushing touchdowns Spry

1081
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor eleven straight games he's had a rushing touchdown.

1082
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: The all time record NFL history is twelve. Would you

1083
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: like to try and redeem yourself one of the two

1084
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: running backs to have twelve straight games of the rushing

1085
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: touchdown in NFL history, one is recent, one is not.

1086
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: I'll give you the one. I was gonna say, has

1087
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: he heard of either one of them? I'm pretty sure

1088
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: he's heard of one of them because he's on NFL

1089
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: Network as a commentator. There you go, Ladany and Thomason.

1090
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: There's a ding the other one, John Riggins, So I

1091
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: knew that I knew that one. Come on, man, that

1092
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: was that was the second one that I was that one.

1093
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: I don't even think I would have guessed Riggins. I

1094
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: probably would have gone Jim Brown. By the way, do

1095
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 1: you have any of that? Johnny? What was it? Johnny Walker?

1096
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: You said, do you have a Do you have a

1097
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: fresh bottle? Because I feel like I owe Darren a

1098
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: Christmas gift now, I really do. After my brutal gaff today,

1099
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: there needs to be something in a box with a

1100
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: bow on it for Darren. How you didn't know? When

1101
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: it comes to whiskey, it depends on your level of

1102
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: tolerance because this is this is something you drink on

1103
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: the rocks. You know. It's not a mixer anything. It's

1104
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: straight Johnny Walker. It's a little you pour a little

1105
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 1: bit into glass, you sip in nice and cool, especially

1106
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: if you're cold. So it depends for a guy who

1107
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: just discovered it, easy's pretty well. Yeah, okay, you see,

1108
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, And speaking of tolerance, I would say zero

1109
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: tolerance sort of like zero tolerance for a lot of

1110
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: other things in the world these days. Do drink Do

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00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: you drink? Paul? Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't

1112
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: think you're drinking two beers. Three h t ites like

1113
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: taking the lock off a cage, so just stick with two.

1114
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: No more than two are also guaranteed headache the next morning,

1115
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: so yeah, don't if you ever. Yeah, there's a lot

1116
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: of reasons you take my car keys. That's one of them.

1117
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: Ry Christmas, everybody there, you go, saving me from myself.

1118
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Speaker 1: Thank you. Darren urban On Cardinal's Underground brought to you

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