1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome on into the Betting Pros Podcast. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Thomas Viola, and I am very excited 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: for our show here today. Fans of the VPP will 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: know that most of the time we talk about sports 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: betting here on the program, but today we're doing something 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: a little bit different. Today's topic is online casinos are 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: I gaming? It's something that's been very popular in Europe 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: for a while now and is starting to gain a 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: foothold in US markets. Then there's good reason for it. 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: It offers all the fun and excitement of betting on 11 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: a casino floor from the comfort of your own home. 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: That can be very appealing to consumers, and plus there's 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: always that chance to chase a massive payday. Wow. 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: What. 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: Payouts like these are actually more common in online casinos 16 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: than they are in brick and mortar ones due to 17 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: the reduced house edge that benefits the player, as well 18 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: as free bets and promos that casinos give out to 19 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: entice players to keep playing. Now, folks, what today's show 20 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: is not going to be as a commercial. I have 21 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: no personal incentive, nor do I have any desire to 22 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: get you to sign up for an online casino today. However, 23 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: I do want you to be the most informed better 24 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: that you can be in all aspects of the industry, 25 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: and if online gaming is something that you're interested in 26 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: getting into, this can be a great place for you 27 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: to start. We're gonna talk today about how you can 28 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: know that an online casino is reputable, how you know 29 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: that it's licensed and regulated, that when you give them 30 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: your money, you are going to get paid out on 31 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: your winnings, and there's gonna be a fair game put 32 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: in front of you to play. We're gonna talk about 33 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: house edge, how that's different in an online casino versus 34 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: in person, as well as what games can give you 35 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: the best edge as a player. We're gonna cover that 36 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: and plenty more. But right now, without further ado, it's 37 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: time to bring in today's guest, Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome 38 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: on into the show. Director of Casino Experience for RSI, 39 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: Zach Salem. 40 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: Zach, how are you doing today? I'm doing great. How 41 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: are you doing? 42 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: I am doing great? 43 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: Zach. 44 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: It is a pleasure to have you on. I'm really 45 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: excited for this conversation. Normally here we are a sports 46 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: betting focused show, and today it's exciting to get into 47 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of that classic old Vegas style gaming, 48 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: and especially with how things have changed, how technology has 49 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: come up and really been able to redefine the casino 50 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: experience in Vegas and around the country. Online gaming is 51 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: now a massive thing and it's only going to get. 52 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: Bigger, right it is? Yeah, you know, just within within 53 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: the US, you know, online gaming is is live currently 54 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: in in four US states, you know, Ontario and in 55 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: Canada just went live a couple of months ago, and 56 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: we expect to you know, continued growth kind of like 57 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: we've seen in the sports betting markets of the last 58 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: couple of years. You know, hopefully we'll expect to see 59 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: that in online casino in the in the coming years. 60 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: That's right, It kind of wasn't it also a part 61 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: of PASPA that they that online gaming was kind of 62 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: ruled to apply to the same thing where states could 63 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: choose to legalize it themselves. 64 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, it's actually kind of a little bit before 65 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: Past Book. So New Jersey has actually had the online 66 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: casino legal since twenty sixteen now, so it's been quite 67 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: a few years. But you know, since Passbook I repealed, 68 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: you know, we've seen I think a lot more markets 69 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: start to pick that up and kind of take New 70 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: Jersey's lead and kind of go live with sportsbook and casino. 71 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 2: And we've seen that happen in Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Michigan, 72 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: and it's been it's been good. 73 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: For them, and it's only going to continue to grow 74 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: because you know, as you can realize, oh, hey, this 75 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: is a money maker. It's going to get legalized, just 76 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: like sports gambling did. But my first question for you here, 77 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 1: because there's a significant difference between being able to walk 78 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: into a casino, sit down and play at a table 79 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: and doing it online. And one of the biggest things 80 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: is kind of a kind of telefu casinos on the 81 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: up and up. But when it comes to when it 82 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: comes to online casinos, what are some of the things 83 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: that people should maybe watch out for. How can they 84 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: tell if they're betting at a reputable, regulated establishment that 85 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: is going to operate by rules, be fair and pay 86 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: them out versus you might be on a site that 87 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: looks legit and you think it's okay, but it's really 88 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: not and you might run into problems down the road 89 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: with it. 90 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: That's a really good question, I think, especially for a 91 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: lot of these new markets and players getting first introduced 92 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: online casino, Right, how do they know that? You know 93 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: they're going to make a deposit and be able to 94 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: withdraw their money. Right, So you know, many of the 95 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 2: same government agencies that regulate the brick and mortar casinos. 96 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 2: You know that you'd find in Atlantic City or in Pittsburgh, 97 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 2: in Detroit, they're the same government agencies that regulate the 98 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: online casinos. So one of the easiest ways to tell 99 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: is when you visit a website is to just look, 100 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: you know, it's whether it's in the about us section 101 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: or at the bottom of the web page. Right, is 102 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: to see that they have been regulated and licensed by 103 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: your local government agency. So that'd be the New Jersey 104 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: Division of Gaming Enforcement, right, Pennsylvania Gaming Control Board. So 105 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: every state has that local agency that you can trust 106 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: and you can rely on, and everybody that is legal, 107 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 2: if regulated in those markets will have licensing by those agencies. 108 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: And another big thing to keep in mind there is that, 109 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: like you said, these casinos are regulated by the same 110 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: bodies that regulate the brick and mortars. It's not quote. 111 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: It is technically you know, fixable, but these are licensed, 112 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: regulated industries that are not giving you an unfair game, 113 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: they have to pay out at some point. There's requirements 114 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: and software that basically make sure that this stuff is happening, right, like. 115 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: Oh yes, absolutely, So all of the games that are 116 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: online have to go through this much of if not 117 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 2: exactly the same or even more rigorous testing than you know, 118 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: your brick and mortar casino machine that you can walk 119 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: up to and put twenty dollars in, right, So they 120 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 2: go through the same testing labs that make sure that 121 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: games are fair, that they're paying out appropriately, and you know, 122 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: if there are any issues, you can go to the 123 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: same government agencies that you can for the brick and 124 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: mortar casinos. And what you also find is that many 125 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: of the games and the suppliers and manufacturers that you 126 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 2: know from from your brick and mortar casinos you'll also 127 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: find online. Right, So some of those best games that 128 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: you see online and in brick and mortar are made 129 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 2: by the same company that they have the same integrity, 130 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: They have the same licensing laws and regulations that go 131 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: into them. So it's not just us as the operators 132 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 2: that have to get licensed and regulated, it's also the 133 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: companies that run and manufacture and develop the games, and 134 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: those are most often, very frequently the same company making 135 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: games for the brick and mortar casino and the online casinos. 136 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: That's right, because for people that might not know, it's 137 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: not a casino just doesn't make slot machines and put 138 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: them out. There are companies that specifically do that part, 139 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: places like IGT, for example, who build these games. And 140 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: most of the time, what is going on and correct 141 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong here, beause again, sports betting is 142 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: the normal space. This is all very much a fascinating 143 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: learning experience for me too. But a lot of times 144 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: what they'll do is casinos and online casinos will say, hey, 145 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: we want to carry your game in our casino. They'll 146 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: install the machines in, and then they relatively split the profits, 147 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: not necessarily evenly, but a portion of proceeds go to 148 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: the casino and a portion go to the manufacturer. 149 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, exactly. So you know, the IGT is for 150 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: the scientific games of the world. You know, they make 151 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: their games for the brick and mortar casinos, and then 152 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: they also develop them for online, right, And they run 153 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: their own servers, they run their own systems, and they 154 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: present those games onto our our website. And and other 155 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: operators websites for players to play. 156 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: And what are some of the games that if you 157 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: know this off the top of your head, what are 158 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: some of the games that players tend to flock to online? 159 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: What are some of the more popular options. Well, you're 160 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: you're still gonna you're going to see a lot of 161 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: the hit games from from the rick and mortar. So 162 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: you know, eighty eight Fortunes has been a top game 163 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: in your brick and mortar casino for a decade now, 164 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: and it's you can find that game online. You know. 165 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: From the table game perspective, you know, you have Blackjack, 166 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: you have three Card Poker, Ultimate Texas hold them and 167 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: those are made by the same companies that you know 168 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 2: initially designed and developed those games in uh, you know, 169 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: for your your local casino. 170 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: Now, is it the same kind of rules that apply 171 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: where in casinos slot machines are king, that's the biggest 172 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: money maker. Is it the same thing with virtual slots 173 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: versus virtual table games? 174 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does tend to be, right the slot players. 175 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 2: There's a lot more slot players than there are table players. 176 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: And you know, the house edge on those table games 177 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: just a little bit lower than the slots. So slots 178 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: are still game online even guys. 179 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: Real quick, remember when you're looking for free picks and 180 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: sports betting advice, Bettingpros dot com has you covered with 181 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: tips from over one hundred and fifty experts to make 182 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: it easy for you to cash out. Download the app 183 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: to get sports betting alerts. You'll get notified of favorable 184 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: bets based online movements, consensus picks from the most accurate experts, 185 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: and vetted systems in play. Betting Pros monitors all of 186 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: the major sports books, most accurate experts, and top systems 187 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: to identify the best betting opportunities. So download today in 188 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: the Apple or Google Play stores. Now you talk about 189 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: that house edge, that's something that I really want to 190 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: get into you into with here. It's a little more 191 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: inside baseball when it comes to what's going on, but 192 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: that's kind of what we want to do here. We 193 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: want to talk about the things that go that extra 194 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: little bit of a level and bring people in. Explain 195 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: exactly what is house edge for people that might not 196 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: understand it. 197 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's two ways to look at it. There's 198 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: house edge and then there's the return to player, and 199 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: they both basically calculate the same thing. So house edge 200 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: is kind of how much the casino the house is 201 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: expected to kind of make off of every wager. And 202 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: in most of your brick and mortars, you know, for 203 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: table games, you know that'll be one percent, let's say 204 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: two percent when you kind of blend it across all 205 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: the table games, and for slots, you know they'll they'll 206 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,599 Speaker 2: make eight percent on slots, so they make quite a 207 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: bit more for every dollar of wager on the slots, 208 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: and online we're looking at about the you know, the 209 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: same for the table games, we have quite a bit 210 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: of most of the same offering that you find in 211 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: your brick and mortar casinos. For slots, we actually tend 212 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: to run them at a little bit lower than you'll 213 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: find in your local brick and mortars. So our slots 214 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: that we find online will tend to run around four 215 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: four and a half percent house edge versus the kind 216 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: of eight percent I quoted before that you'll often find 217 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: in brick and mortars. And depending on the market, they'll 218 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: even be they'll even be a higher house edge in 219 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: certain markets where they'll they'll take ten to twelve percent even. 220 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: And one of the things that kind of dilutes the 221 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: house edge when you get into the online gaming world 222 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: is it's not just the factors of the game and 223 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: the amount that the game is going to turn out. 224 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: Things that go into it include stuff like promos and 225 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: free bets and loss rebates that are given out at 226 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: a much higher level in online play than they are 227 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: in brick and mortar casinos. 228 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, I mean it's a very different experience, right. 229 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: You know, to go to your local brick and mortar casino, 230 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 2: you're not going as frequent, right, It's you got to 231 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 2: kind of go anyway. Right, You got to get in 232 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: your car, you got to drive twenty minutes an hour 233 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: depending on where you live. It's a lot more of 234 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: an effort. So you know, while you're there, those brick 235 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: and mortars kind of want to take as much money 236 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: from you as they can, right, in a short period 237 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: of time. Online, we want you to have the best 238 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 2: experience possible, right, So that involves giving you more bonuses 239 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: to make your experience more enjoyable, to allow you to 240 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: come if you want to and play every day. And 241 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: you know, we expect that, you know, if we give 242 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 2: you a great experience, you'll enjoy staying with us. And 243 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: so we're happy to offer you more bonuses and to 244 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: have a smaller house edge to give the player the 245 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: best experience as possible. 246 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: Now, do you guys have live online blackjack? Because there's 247 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: a difference for people between standard online that is, you're 248 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: playing basically video blackjack on your phone or computer versus 249 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: live where there is an actual physical dealer and you're 250 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: basically watching a live stream and when it's your turn, 251 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: you actually say I want to hit, and then a 252 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: real dealer is pulling out a real card. You guys 253 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: have both options. 254 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, So you know, the first first option we 255 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: call RNG games, right, so it's a random number generator games. 256 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: It's it's a video you know, basically a video black 257 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: check or a video roulette, and we have a lot 258 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: of those. We have a lot of those to offer players. 259 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: And the nice thing about those is if you you 260 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: can play at your own pace, right, if you want 261 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: to play slow, if you want to play fast, you 262 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: can play at your own pace. And you know, again, 263 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: those are tested and they're true. They're they're based upon 264 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: a real virtual deck that that is in the software. 265 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: So not to cut you off there, but I was 266 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: I was actually about to ask that, so if you're 267 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: playing a virtual blackjack game, there's still a real shoe 268 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: that's being used. 269 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly right. Yes, So so in in the game, uh, 270 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: they're you know, the the deck itself is uh is 271 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 2: animally shuffled in the software and and you're dealt those 272 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 2: cards from there. So there is there's an idea of 273 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: a kind of a virtual shoe. Yeah. 274 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: So is there a difference in the house edge between 275 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: virtual shoe and live online blackjack and stuff like that? 276 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: So you can actually depending on the game. So we 277 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: have so many different types of blackjack, you can actually 278 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: get a little bit of better house edge on some 279 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: of the RNG, the virtual video ones because you know, 280 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: we do offer a single deck game, right and that 281 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: single deck game is is a single deck three to 282 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: two payout is about as good as you can get 283 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: on blackjack. And so we do have a video version 284 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: of that. We don't have a live dealer version. We 285 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: do have live dealer games, but we don't have a 286 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: live dealer version of that single deck three too. So uh, 287 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: you know, when it comes to live dealer games, you know, 288 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: we have quite a wide range of offerings. You know, 289 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: where you can you can sit down and you can 290 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: bet as small as ten dollars a hand, and actually, 291 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: you know, see a dealer streaming. You can see the 292 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: dealer shuffling the deck as well, which brings to some 293 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: players a little bit more trust, right then you know, 294 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: playing against you know, what some would call a video game, right, 295 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: so you see the dealer shuffle the deck, you see 296 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: them deal the cards, you can kind of you feel 297 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: a little bit more comfortable for some of those players, 298 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: and you know, the speed of play is a little 299 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: bit slower, right, so you have to wait for the 300 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: other people to sit at the table and kind of 301 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: make their decisions. But it's overall a really great experience 302 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: to be at home and play blackjack and you can 303 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: converse with the dealer. You can actually talk and chat 304 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: with the dealer, which is you know, it brings the 305 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: brick and mortar casino to your phone or to your 306 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: home computer. 307 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a wild experience and it's something especially 308 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: with especially with the last couple of years that really 309 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: took off, right because you couldn't physically go to the 310 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: casino for a little while. It reminds me of the 311 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: Russian table tennis that was being played where they would 312 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: just set these guys up in a room and you 313 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: can just watch them and play and bet on them. 314 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: But is it true that these casinos have kind of 315 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: really been taking off online since with the pandemic it 316 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: opened up a new opportunity. People were stuck at home 317 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: and still wanted to be able to do this. 318 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, because you know, when when the pandemic first hit, 319 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: or I guess pre pandemic, right, a lot of players 320 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: online was a little scary, right, and especially for you 321 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 2: know the older population, Right, do you really want to 322 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: know deposit money too an online website? You know, there 323 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: is kind of that untrustworthiness that was in their mind, 324 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: so they preferred to go to the brick and mortar. 325 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 2: But you know, pandemic has changed a lot, Right, people 326 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,959 Speaker 2: still wanted to Campbell and they did, you know, come online, 327 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 2: and they tried online, and you know they haven't left, right, 328 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 2: even as things have opened up, and you know, we're 329 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 2: getting to a point where you know, people can go 330 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: back to the casino, they can go do whatever they 331 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: want to, right, and you know, they found that they're 332 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: such a good experience. Right. We have so many great 333 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 2: games to offer. In fact, we offer more games online 334 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: than you'll find in your local brick and mortar because 335 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: we're not restricted by the floor space that we have 336 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 2: by the square footage of our building. So we get 337 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: players a great experience and they stay with us, and 338 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 2: they really have found a new home, I guess. 339 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: And with some of these wild games and the larger 340 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: not necessarily larger payouts, but the fact that you're getting 341 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: a lot more bonuses, you're getting a lot more free 342 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: rolls and things like that. Online it's also spond a 343 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: bit of a new industry. We showed some of the 344 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: highlights in the intro, but there are people who will 345 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: literally go on to twitch and stream themselves just playing 346 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: the slots and casinos kind of love that, right. 347 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, you know, it's it's been a thing in 348 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: Europe for quite a long time. Online casinos in Europe 349 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: have been around for a decade longer, and you know, 350 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 2: it's it's been a streaming thing over there for quite 351 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 2: some time. It's finding a home here in the US 352 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 2: as well. And you know, you know, when if you're 353 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: a player that just likes and enjoys the excitement around 354 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: around the slot games, then these twitch streamers are a 355 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 2: nice way to kind of get your fixed and watch 356 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 2: somebody play the games without having to necessarily gamble your 357 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: own money. But it's been a it's fun to see 358 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: them kind of come over to the US because it's 359 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: it's a different we have different games, it's different types 360 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 2: of games that players like over here versus in Europe 361 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 2: and things like that. So it's a new it's more content, 362 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: I guess for our players to digest. 363 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's the great thing for content creators, 364 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: having the ability to find a new stream to tap 365 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: into and put stuff out there for your audience. 366 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: I know. 367 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: One of my favorite things I like going down to 368 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: what was formerly the Hooters and now the OIO here 369 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: in town. That dollar blackjack table is so nice when 370 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: you want to get your fix, but you don't want 371 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: to play real much. I don't want to throw down 372 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: one hundred bucks. I want to throw down ten bucks 373 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: and be there for an hour and come out with 374 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: my ten bucks and just say I've played. 375 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: Yep, yeah exactly. And the nice thing about online is, 376 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: you know, excuse me, because we expect and we want 377 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 2: to give players that best experience. We offer a wide 378 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 2: range of betting possibilities, so for many of our slots. 379 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: You know, you can bet as small as you know, 380 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: ten cents, which you have ten cents, twenty five cents. 381 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: Good luck finding that in any real brick and mortar anymore. 382 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 2: That's you're not going to really find that. So if 383 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: you're looking to only spend a small amount or not, 384 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: don't want to wage or big, you know, we make 385 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: that available and allow you to do that. And if 386 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: you're a high roller that wants to come in and 387 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 2: wager one hundred, two hundred even more, you know you're 388 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 2: welcome to. We have plenty of games for offer on 389 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 2: offer for you, and that's right. 390 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: The fact that you're not limited by floor space, like 391 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: you mentioned, it, lets you make these so it makes 392 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: it lets you give so many more options, especially when 393 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: it comes to table minimums and things like that, because 394 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: in a brick and mortar casino, especially in Vegas, I 395 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: mean on the Vegas Strip on a Saturday night, forget 396 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: about it. You're not finding a table under twenty five dollars. 397 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: Even normally it's going to be a fifteen dollars maybe 398 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: ten dollars minimum on an off random Tuesday afternoon. But 399 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 1: you can actually gamble much more on what you want However, 400 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: there are a couple drawbacks with it, especially in like 401 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: the slot game market. For example, you can't vulture a 402 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: machine if someone leaves a machine that's going to pay out, 403 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: you can't. You can't go and see, ooh, this one's 404 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: ready to hit and go for it, right, Yeah. 405 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 2: Not really. You know, we we do have some games 406 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 2: that have some really nice, big jackpots on them, so 407 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 2: you know, players really flock to those, especially when those 408 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: jackpots get get nice and large, and we've had some 409 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: you know, jackpots pay out over half a million dollars 410 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: to to a progressive so you know, we get some 411 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: some pretty big payoffs that you know, players can look 412 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: around for and try to find, you know, what's appealing 413 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 2: to them. 414 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: So the slot machines online, they will still because it's 415 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: working off a progressive system. They're all still intertwined with 416 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: each other. So if if the game is starting to 417 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: get hot, more players might actually be seeing that and 418 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: logging onto play. 419 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they'll see. You know, we have a couple 420 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: of different ways of doing that two players, so you know, 421 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: we allow players to kind of share their big wins 422 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: with each other. Right, So if if players are on 423 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 2: some good hot streaks and winning on certain games that 424 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: will show up. We have what's called the news feed, 425 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: which kind of shows players in there in in the 426 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: slot casinos. You know what they're like, they're hitting big 427 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: wins and things like that, so players can kind of 428 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: see when a game's hot. We also have a chat 429 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: chat room feature in our casinos, so players can actually 430 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 2: talk to each other over chat and then you know, 431 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: on the other side, when you know a machine has 432 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: gone kind of I guess cold for the while you 433 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: don't normally see it, but you know, some of those 434 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 2: games build those really big jackpots, and you can tell 435 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 2: when you know, a Divine Fortune, which is one of 436 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: our larger jackpot games, when that when that jackpot hasn't 437 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 2: gotten hit in a long time, you know it'll be 438 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 2: two hundred to three hundred four hundred dollars and and 439 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 2: players will find it right away. 440 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: So what are some of those games you mentioned that 441 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned that that's one with really large potential payouts 442 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: for players. What are some of the games that do 443 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: tend to offer higher potential payouts. 444 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Divine Fortune game, that's a big one, 445 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: a game that you know some of your you know, 446 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: our audience might find familiar is a game from Konami 447 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: called all Aboard, and you know that's a great game, 448 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 2: and that jackpot can grow up into I think we 449 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 2: had a one one win recently of around one hundred 450 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars, right, So you know, those jackpots 451 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: can grow nice and substantial and make some life changing, 452 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: life changing wins rare. 453 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: And that's the thing with kind of the difference of 454 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: slots versus tables slots, Like you said, the house edge 455 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: online it's maybe around four percent five percent, so the 456 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: house is making more money per bet, but that gets 457 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: paid off in the fact that you're chasing a larger 458 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: out versus the table games where the house edge is 459 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: going to be lower. But you know, you're you're not 460 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: hitting a jackpot in blackjack. 461 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: No, exactly right, So you know that that jackpot possibility 462 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: in those slots is kind of what what drives a 463 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 2: lot of a lot of players. It gives a lot 464 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 2: of excitement too, right, you get you get that close 465 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 2: to hitting it right and and you know it's a 466 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: it's an exciting feeling. But yeah, we've had plenty of 467 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: you know, players that have only wagering a dollar of 468 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: span that have won a couple hundred thousand dollars hitting 469 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 2: one of these jackpots, and for many of these players, 470 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: that's you know, that's a that's a dream that they 471 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: only wish they you know, something they only wish stuff. 472 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: Now, my last question for you here going the other 473 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: way from the jackpots and the potential big winnings to 474 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: which games are it that offer players the best edge 475 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: against the house house switching over to really the table side. 476 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: If you're a player starting out, you're not necessarily looking 477 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: for the big jackpots, but you want to feel like 478 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,239 Speaker 1: you're winning a little. You want to feel like you're 479 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: winning a bit at a time. Is it blackjack? Is 480 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: it Bacca rod? Is it the roulette wheel? Where is 481 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: it that a lot of new players who might want 482 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: to start out with something with a lower house edge 483 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: want to go. 484 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean right, you're blackjacks. You're gonna want to 485 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 2: like stick mostly to your table games, right and and 486 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: uh not do anything too crazy. Uh, but you know 487 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 2: playing your black jacks and roulettes are are just solid 488 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: and predictable. So those are going to give you your your 489 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: your best house edge as a player. And then you know, 490 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 2: aside from that you know Baccarat. You know, there's certain 491 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 2: people that like playing Bakra, but you know that's a 492 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 2: it's definitely a quiet taste I think from many players. 493 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: You know, roulettes send it easiest one to get into. 494 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: You know. Recently we've uh started adding and have added 495 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: Craps Live dealer Craps, which is another really good offer 496 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: fors and how do you. 497 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: Do live dealer craps is that someone specifically is going 498 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: to roll the dice every time, so. 499 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 2: They actually have a a hydraulically operated r that's awesome, 500 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: that has been tested for trueness and fairness by the 501 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 2: gaming authorities. So every I forgot how that's the speed is. 502 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 2: But every twenty seconds a new role happens by this 503 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 2: little hydraulic arm and it and it shoots the dice 504 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: and it's really good. So you have a you have 505 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 2: a dealer there to chat with who gets really excited 506 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: for you and you pays you out when you when 507 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: you start getting on a streak. 508 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Craps is probably my favorite. It's probably the best 509 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: casino experience game right because it's it's the only game 510 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: where everybody's playing together. It's a communal affair. I absolutely 511 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: love that experience. But do you guys have the big horses? 512 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: We do, uh, so you in in certain markets, we 513 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 2: do have virtual horse racing. It's it's a lot different 514 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: than uh, you know, your old Sigma Derby that you'd 515 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 2: find uh downtown, but you know, it's uh they try 516 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 2: to make it a little bit more realistic like real 517 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 2: horse racing. But you know, if if it's if you 518 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 2: like horse racing, you know, most of them they are 519 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 2: all fixed odds, so you know, it's it's kind of 520 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: like you know, betting on you know, just just betting 521 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 2: on a on a fixed odds event. We also have 522 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: some some virtual other virtual sports, virtual NASCAR and dog 523 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 2: racing and things like that. And and you know, when 524 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: the first then the pandemic first happened, we did, you know, 525 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: see some shift over to from sports betting over to 526 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: try some of that stuff. It hasn't quite found its 527 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: home in the US yet, like it has in Europe. 528 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 2: The virtual virtual sports are extremely popular in Europe. But 529 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 2: you know, it's going to take a little bit of 530 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 2: time I think before the US consumer uh feels you know, 531 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: understands them and feels comfortable with them. 532 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: I know, I said last question for you, but it 533 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: does bring it up. What are some of the differences 534 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: between European gamblers and American gamblers that you see You 535 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 1: talked about how some of the games and offerings are different. 536 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean a lot of our offerings are 537 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 2: are very much catered towards players that are familiar with 538 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: the brick and mortar. You know, Europe has most of 539 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: the suppliers of content in Europe are only supplying online. 540 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 2: You know, the brick and mortar casino experience isn't the 541 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 2: same in Europe as it is in the US and 542 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 2: North America. So, you know, a lot of our experience, 543 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 2: a lot of the games that we want to bring 544 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: to players are to make them feel comfortable online, right, 545 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: to give them a lot of that that that familiarity 546 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: that they're used to when they go into their local 547 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 2: casino and to be able to experience that online. So 548 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: you know, with that, like do we want to you know, 549 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: we want to try to make the player feel as 550 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: comfortable as possible. And and in Europe, you know, there's 551 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: you know, there are a lot of online only companies. 552 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: Zach, thank you so much for joining me today. I 553 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: greatly appreciate It's been a fantastic conversation. Normally at this 554 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: time we're interviewing sports betters. I give them an opportunity 555 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: to plug themselves where people can find their work. So 556 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: I suppose if you care to do that, where can 557 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: people find you on, say, social media or the work 558 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: that you're doing. 559 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, so we run a couple online casinos, Betrivers 560 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: dot com and play Sugarhouse dot com. There are online 561 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: casinos in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Michigan, and Ontario 562 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: and h And we also have sports books in many 563 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: other markets. So if you're interested, go go check those 564 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: out and hope to see you there. 565 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: That is very true. I have actually won a little 566 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: bit off of sugar House in New Jersey back when 567 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: I was there for a weekend. That was a very 568 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: fun time. But Zach, thank you again so much. It 569 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: has been an absolute pleasure, awesome. Thank you so much, 570 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,959 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, Thank you so much for tuning in 571 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: for today's conversation. Thank you so much to Zach for 572 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: his time and guys, we covered a lot today. We 573 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: talked about house edge, we talked about advantages that you 574 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: can have while playing online, but another thing that we 575 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: did touch on, and I just want to reiterate before 576 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: we go here. There are no guarantees. This is not 577 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: a way that you are going to make fast, easy money. 578 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: There is no way to do that in gambling. It 579 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: simply is not how gambling works. If you or a 580 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: loved one has a problem, there are ways to get help. 581 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: You can call one eight hundred gambler, you can head 582 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: to Gamblers Anonymous. There are plenty of services out there 583 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: for you to get the. 584 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: Help you need. 585 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: Gambling from your home is very convenient, and that can 586 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: also be a big pitfall. So please make sure that 587 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: you are gambling responsibly and if you believe that you 588 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: may have a problem, stop and get help. Thank you 589 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: so much for listening, and we will see you guys 590 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: next week