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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us

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Speaker 1: as we roll into the weekend. We are going to

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Speaker 1: have some fun. Eight hundred and two A two two

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Speaker 1: some of your calls to react too much of what

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Speaker 1: we are discussing throughout the course of today's show. Gonna

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Speaker 1: have some fun, uh. Margo Robbie aka Barbie described as

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Speaker 1: mediocre in her attractiveness. Buck and I have strong feelings

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Speaker 1: on a Friday Tucker Carlson's raising hundreds of millions of dollars,

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Speaker 1: as according to The Wall Street Journal, he is poised

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Speaker 1: to begin a new conservative media company. What do we

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Speaker 1: think about that woke Disney under absolute siege in the

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Speaker 1: wake of We played some of the audio of Bob Iger,

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Speaker 1: the CEO of Disney, in his interview with CNBC. But

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Speaker 1: when you hear some of the details about more of

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Speaker 1: the movies that are coming out, you're gonna just be

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Speaker 1: in disbelief. I think about how much Disney has lost

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Speaker 1: its way and allowed the woke virus to infect pretty

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Speaker 1: much the entirety of the company. We will discuss that,

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Speaker 1: but Buck, I wanted to begin with this. So earlier

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Speaker 1: in the week during the show, we talked about the

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Speaker 1: idea of Robert F. Kennedy, what his appeal is, and

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Speaker 1: the possibility that he could even end up as the

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Speaker 1: vice president for Donald Trump. And in the wake of that,

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Speaker 1: I've been putting up some interesting polls on my Twitter feed.

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Speaker 1: They've been retweeted by the Clay and Buck feed, and

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Speaker 1: I also will retweet this one right now. I initially said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: you can only pick one, Robert F. Kennedy or Mitt Romney,

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Speaker 1: no other third party, no other options. Who would you

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Speaker 1: vote for if you only had two? And RFK Junior

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Speaker 1: beat Mitt Romney basically eighty to twenty. That is, with

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Speaker 1: seventy thousand of you some odd voting, eighty percent of

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Speaker 1: you said I'd rather vote for Robert F. Kennedy than

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Speaker 1: Mitt Romney. This is interesting because RFK Junior is ostensibly

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Speaker 1: a Democrat. Obviously Mitt Romney was the Republican standard bearer

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Speaker 1: in the twenty twelve election. So then I followed it

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Speaker 1: up this yesterday afternoon, Buck, after our show ended. When

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Speaker 1: those final results came in, I thought, Okay, that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: What about a more recent Republican standard Bear, Heck, what

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Speaker 1: about somebody who's actually running for president right now who

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Speaker 1: we've had on this program. So what about RFK Junior

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Speaker 1: head to head against Mike Pence? And the numbers as

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Speaker 1: we speak right now, Buck, forty one thousand people have voted.

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Speaker 1: If you want to retweet Clay and Buck, I just

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Speaker 1: retweeted this poll so you can go vote in it

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Speaker 1: and let your voice be heard at Clay Travis on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Clay and Buck at Buck Sex And right now,

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Speaker 1: over forty thousand of you have voted, and RFK Junior

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Speaker 1: is beating Mike Pence seventy four percent to twenty six percent.

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Speaker 1: These are not close. And so Buck, as I looked

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Speaker 1: at those numbers and I read some of the comments,

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Speaker 1: what really kind of came clear to me. And this

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Speaker 1: is my thesis. And I'm curious if you would buy

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Speaker 1: into this. Much of the audience out there, a huge

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Speaker 1: percentage of our audience, but I think a huge percentage

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Speaker 1: of frankly Democrats, independence Republicans. I think there's a huge

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Speaker 1: mass of people out there that are so angry over

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Speaker 1: what happened in with COVID, and so angry over what

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Speaker 1: they've seen associated with big tech censorship and the collusion

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Speaker 1: and the Biden administration and all of the lies that

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Speaker 1: we have been told over the last several years. That

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Speaker 1: there is a massive reaction against established mint candidates, right

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Speaker 1: the Mitt Romney's, the Mike Pences, the Paul Ryans, the

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Speaker 1: and there is a desperate craving for anti establishment candidates

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Speaker 1: who will speak truth and stand up to these large institutions,

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Speaker 1: regardless of the D or the R beside their names.

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Speaker 1: And I think that speaks to RFK Junior hitting a

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Speaker 1: certain tone that is reflected in the population right now.

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Speaker 1: And buck what it made me think about was and

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Speaker 1: why I think Trump, if he's going to again attempt

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Speaker 1: to do what he did in twenty sixteen, which is

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Speaker 1: be the anti establishment candidate, the FU candidate to the

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Speaker 1: a lot of sense with RFK Junior. But what's interesting

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Speaker 1: to me is there aren't very many anti establishment candidates

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Speaker 1: quote unquote establishment candidates. Do you buy into this? Do

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Speaker 1: you think we are in an era? Because right now

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Speaker 1: the narrative that I would say Americans are demanding in

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Speaker 1: country and be protected while doing so. Does that add

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Speaker 1: up to you, because I think that's where the votings

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Speaker 1: I guessed is. As we approach people actually being able

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Speaker 1: to cast ballots in January.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's really early, and if you look at the history.

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Speaker 3: Of the last few elections and look at July and

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Speaker 3: that doesn't really tell you very much about what people

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Speaker 3: actually do when it comes time to cast their balance.

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Speaker 3: So is there a sense right now. Look, I think

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Speaker 3: you have to break this up into buckets or into tranches,

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Speaker 3: like you're saying the American people want. The American people

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Speaker 3: didn't want accountability for COVID and an anti system vote

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Speaker 3: that badly in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: That is not what we saw.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's also ask this question, who gave people

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Speaker 1: that option in twenty twenty two. Well, I would argue

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Speaker 1: there weren't that many great anti establishment candidates in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two. There are a lot of people who said, Okay,

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Speaker 1: the election was rigged, but I actually didn't hear that

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Speaker 1: many people go out and say they totally failed you

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Speaker 1: on COVID, right and the government Like who? I'm just

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Speaker 1: curious because I think it's an interesting question. And who

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Speaker 1: would you have said was the most anti establishment candidate

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Speaker 1: running statewide in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you had some definitely non traditional candidates like

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Speaker 3: are people who didn't end up doing well in the

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Speaker 3: non establishment lane. But I think more to the point,

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Speaker 3: the whole the narrative that we had over the system failure.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Clay at some level I have a cognitive

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Speaker 3: dissonance here because I every day I'm like, how are

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Speaker 3: people more upset about what happened?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm I'm you're with me on the on

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm just gonna say it. He's not gonna beat

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden the primary. It's not gonna happen. Okay, if

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden drops out or something, that's different. But if

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Speaker 3: going to win the Democrat primary. Mark my words, mark

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Speaker 3: it down, put it on the calendar. Not going to

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Speaker 3: happen because Democrats want power, right, So that's the system

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Speaker 3: reset or a system change for them. That's just you know,

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Speaker 3: their activist Bernie Bernie bros. Wing will make some noise.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the day, they march in lockstep.

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Speaker 3: are is that the number right now?

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Speaker 1: What are they? Who? Who?

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Speaker 3: It's the RFK is about twenty percent, They're they're Bernie

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Speaker 3: bros In essence, they're people who don't like, you know,

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden's an old white man and he's out of touch,

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Speaker 3: and he's he's too old, and they're making noise about that.

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Speaker 3: Right now, At the end of the day, Democrat Party

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Speaker 2: And I think that still is Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: That could change, right if all of a sudden we

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Speaker 3: again the open primary, if Biden's not the guy, then

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Speaker 3: then I think that changes the analysis of the Democrat side.

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Speaker 1: On the Republican side.

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Speaker 3: I understand this because you know, you've got you've got

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Speaker 3: a couple of things going won is Trump is the

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Speaker 3: Trump is the anti establishish candidate who was the former

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Speaker 3: president correct and anti establishment?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean he was the establishment for four years

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Speaker 3: taking a non establishment position obviously, and that's why the

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Speaker 3: it's a it's an interesting thing, you know, to be

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Speaker 3: when you've been the CEO for the company for four

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Speaker 3: or five years each turned on, you're like, whoever's running

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Speaker 3: things here? You know, this is where you get into

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Speaker 3: how do you reform the system and what's the best

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Speaker 3: You're right that there are not that many.

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Speaker 2: Anti establishment candidates in the mix right now.

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Speaker 3: The wave of the It's funny because we've our perceptions

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Speaker 3: have changed so much. You remember, the Tea Party at

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Speaker 3: a lot of Tea Party people listening. Now, go back

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Speaker 3: A lot of those Tea Party people they are the

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Speaker 3: they're the GOP establishment now, a lot of them. You know,

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Speaker 3: Now RFK Junior has found that lane, and that's why

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Speaker 3: why not run as a Republican unless he's actually a Democrat?

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Speaker 3: And if he's a Democrat, I don't want him in charge.

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Speaker 3: So that's a there's a balance there, right, And people

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Speaker 3: I like him on that. Yeah, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: I like Tulca Gabbard on a lot of things. And

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Speaker 3: now she's an independent. Why is an RFK junior going

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Speaker 3: in the independent lane? I would have that question. So

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Speaker 3: I just think it's very early in seeing that evolution

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Speaker 3: right now because it is very hard. Look, fifty percent

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Speaker 1: That's what the poll.

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Speaker 3: Show that is fifty percent of the GOP is not

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Speaker 3: all vote for Trump in the end if they you know,

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Speaker 3: if he makes the case. And but in the meantime,

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Speaker 3: what you have is, all right, what is going to

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Speaker 1: What's that?

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Speaker 3: And that's a process, that's I should say, that's a

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Speaker 3: part of the campaign is why is it going to

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Speaker 3: be more effective this time or what are the next stages?

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Speaker 3: If you thought the first four years were very effective

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Speaker 3: at tearing down the establishment, If you make that case,

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Speaker 3: I think that there's at least part of the GOP

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Speaker 3: you ask what I thought the impact of R Junior

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Speaker 3: terminology can be imprecise here, and I understand that. But

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Speaker 3: you have kids that are you know, their parents work

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Speaker 3: at Google and live in Palo Alto. They don't want

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Speaker 3: to get vaccines. And you have people who are very

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Speaker 3: anti government and live in rural areas and don't trust

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Speaker 3: the FDA. They don't want to get vaccines. So I

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Speaker 3: think RFK Junior is tapping into that, which is its

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Speaker 3: own thing. It's a little bit even it's part COVID,

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Speaker 3: but it's something else too, And I just don't know

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Speaker 3: if that lasts. As people you got to remember the

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Speaker 3: Biden we haven't even seen what the Biden campaign is

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Speaker 3: right now. The full scale propaganda. I think a lot

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Speaker 3: of it is going to be It's gonna be January

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Speaker 3: sixth videos all the time, I get, what do you

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Speaker 3: think CNN's plan?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna be saying, hey, what about like COVID vaccines?

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Speaker 1: It didn't work so well? Right? And this is where

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Speaker 1: the anti establishment thing to me comes in so much.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: You know what Steve Job said when people asked him

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Speaker 1: when he was making the iPhone or and he was

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Speaker 1: making the iPad, they said, hey, we're doing a lot

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Speaker 1: of market research. People say they don't want this. Steve,

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Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing Steve Jobs said, it's my job to let

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Speaker 1: them know why they should want it. And I think

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Speaker 1: we have so many politicians today who sit around and

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Speaker 1: look at the polling and try to chase the wave

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Speaker 1: as opposed to setting the wave themselves. And that to

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Speaker 1: me is one of the great flaws, right, they're chasing

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Speaker 1: where the audience is. Another good analogy here from sports, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I love it. I try to teach my kids at

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Speaker 1: all the time. They asked Wayne Gretzky, how did you

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Speaker 1: score so many goals for I'm not a huge hockey guy,

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Speaker 1: but all your hockey fans out there are like yes,

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Speaker 1: And the answer was he said, I don't skate where

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Speaker 1: the puck is. I skate where the puck is going.

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Speaker 1: I feel like so many of our politicians are a

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Speaker 1: year or eighteen months or two years behind because it

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Speaker 1: takes that long for the polling to work its way through.

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Speaker 1: And I just to your point, Buck, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Desantas won by almost twenty points. And if

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Speaker 1: I were talking to the DeSantis campaign, I would say,

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Speaker 1: why did you win by almost twenty points in Florida?

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Speaker 1: Because you were right, but you got the wave years

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Speaker 1: after you were right. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 3: This is a perfect example though, right. I mean, based

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Speaker 3: on what we've seen so far, it it was consolidated

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Speaker 3: in Florida. People recognized how right he was. To people

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Speaker 3: in Michigan care, Do people in Arizona care? You know

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Speaker 3: what I mean that this is the and and you know,

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Speaker 3: I think you're looking at in the case of Dysantis,

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Speaker 3: the single and look that the Trump campaign is attacking

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Speaker 3: him saying he wasn't good on COVID, and people are writing,

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Speaker 3: people are writing to us saying, no, that's true, he

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Speaker 3: wasn't good on COVID. So nothing is but but what

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Speaker 3: nothing is established, nothing is clear yet. I think that's true.

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Speaker 3: But you don't hit the if you are chasing a wave.

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Speaker 3: Think about it from a surfing perspective, and I've tried

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Speaker 3: to surf, and I suck at.

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Speaker 2: It and really hardy. It's very difficult.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's people out there in California who are going

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Speaker 1: to be way better at this. But if you try

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Speaker 1: to chase an existing wave, you never take off because

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Speaker 1: the wave has already passed you. If you wait and

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Speaker 1: put yourself in position and work on paddling and everything else,

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Speaker 1: you can ride that wave and you take off. And

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Speaker 1: so I think that nobody's making the case. I think

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Speaker 1: that there are a lot of Republicans running right now

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Speaker 1: who are worried about appealing to the establishment, because that's

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Speaker 1: where you go get the money. Right, if you're super successful,

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Speaker 1: you don't actually want that much to get rattled. If

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Speaker 1: you're cutting a check for one hundred thousand dollars to somebody,

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Speaker 1: you want them to be stable. There's a disconnect, I think,

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Speaker 1: between the donor class and the people out there who

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Speaker 1: are fed up with the direction of the country, and

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Speaker 1: so far those aren't connecting. So you can raise one

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. But if you're out there selling what

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Speaker 1: the donor class likes, you aren't connecting with the base.

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Speaker 1: And that is where the Trump rallies are so intuitive

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Speaker 1: and why Trump, I think, has had such a good

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Speaker 1: connection because he's never really been donor class guy.

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Speaker 2: He's been a base guy. It's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Also, I do think you could make a very and

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Speaker 3: I'll make the case because it's quick and it's easy

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Speaker 3: that Trump's biggest victories of policy not of messaging and

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Speaker 3: movement building, but his biggest victories of policy came from

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Speaker 3: using this system as it is, but making the right

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Speaker 3: decisions within, as in excellent judges on the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 3: massive legacy there.

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Speaker 1: Right, He didn't say.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna put thirty judges justices.

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Speaker 1: You know, he didn't. He didn't try to change everything.

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Speaker 1: He didn't. You know, if you're talking about truly.

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Speaker 3: Being anti establishment in policy, people talk about the great

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Speaker 3: Trump economy. He did tax cuts, Paul Ryan style tax cuts.

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Speaker 3: If we're gonna be honest about it, and that it

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Speaker 3: worked and it was good. I mean, again, genius, this

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Speaker 3: is this is not But I'm just saying the the

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Speaker 3: tear down the system thing people talk about this, but

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Speaker 3: what was really torn down then? What would really be

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Speaker 3: torn down now? I would also even argue that the

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Speaker 3: better immigration, the better immigration policies. Building a wall, it's

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Speaker 3: kind of funny building a wall relies on the system

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Speaker 3: to get it built, but is anti the system in

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Speaker 3: terms of the politics of it.

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Speaker 1: Right, But you need to obviously have a.

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Speaker 3: Machinery behind you to build the total mileage of upgraded wall,

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Speaker 3: et cetera that he had. And I think you could

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Speaker 3: argue that enforcing the law is in some way now

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Speaker 3: an anti establishment position, certainly when it comes to immigration.

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Speaker 2: So I'm just there's complexities here, there's some you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean, It's what does it mean to

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Speaker 3: be a former president who's anti establishment but who's racked

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Speaker 3: up some wins using the establishment. Right, That's what you

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Speaker 3: see with Trump and with RFK Junior. He's anti establishment.

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Speaker 3: But if he's not a Kennedy, are we even talking

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Speaker 3: about him?

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Speaker 1: Do we even know about him? There's no doubt. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: if Trump doesn't inherit hundreds of millions of dollars from

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Speaker 1: his father, that we talk about him. Look, I'm just

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of guys there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys who get into politics, let's be honest, and

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Speaker 1: girls that are born on third base.

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Speaker 3: So a lot of people have a lot of people

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Speaker 3: have a lot of money, and you know, don't beat

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Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton when ninety nine percent of the media, et

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Speaker 3: cetera are aligned with you know, the money is. Look,

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Speaker 3: it's helpful to have money in life, there's no question.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the RFK Junior thing is that's well, that's

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Speaker 3: being built right into politics, right, I mean totally.

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Speaker 1: But if you're John F. Kennedy or Robert F. Kennedy's sons,

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Speaker 1: how many of those guys have zero balls? By which

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a pretty good life, right. People fet

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Speaker 1: you because of who your dad was. You were rich

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Speaker 1: and tedy. People like you the lion of the Senate,

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Speaker 1: let's not forget, which was grotesque. But anyway, Teddy Kennedy

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Speaker 1: was a big deal for a long time. But I

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Speaker 1: mean what I'm getting at, and I think Trump ties

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Speaker 1: in here too. There's lots of billionaires. Most billionaires don't

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Speaker 1: have actual balls, right in terms of being willing to

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Speaker 1: put themselves out there on the front lines and take

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Speaker 1: slings and arrows for what they do. Remember if Trump

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Speaker 1: had never run for president, he would still be getting

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Speaker 1: his name dropped in every rap song. He would still

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Speaker 1: be able to show up at every golf event, and

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Speaker 1: people would across the board. An anti establishment Ken, There's

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Speaker 1: no question about it. I'm just saying, what is an

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Speaker 1: anti establishment candidate? Now?

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Speaker 3: Who's a former president and the thought they can a challenge?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a different thing, right, It's a I'm

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Speaker 3: going to come in and smash up the system this time.

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Speaker 3: You know, it has to be a continuation of the

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Speaker 3: first term that's just baked into all of this, and

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Speaker 3: you're looking at other than Trump and RFK Junior. Is

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Speaker 3: there anybody who feels like they're operating outside of the

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Speaker 3: established political and I think this is your fundamental point,

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Speaker 3: just to bring us. Is there anyone who's operating out

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Speaker 3: You know, there isn't some out There's not a Ross Pero,

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Speaker 3: There's not an outsider candidate beyond that in either side

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Speaker 3: of things, even looking at lesser candidates in terms of

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Speaker 3: the polls. So I just I feel like I sit

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Speaker 3: here though, and I think that we will look back

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Speaker 3: on the conversations we're having now about the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: four election in January and February and be like, wow,

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Speaker 3: nobody could have seen how that was gonna play. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we've got we've got a president facing multiple federal or

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Speaker 3: multiple indictments. One federal we got you know, it got

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Speaker 3: a million and who knows who the economy is going

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Speaker 3: to be. Is Russia gonna you know, invade Poland we

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Speaker 3: got a million things that could happen. So the dynamics

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Speaker 3: now are interesting. But I just I, from my mindset,

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Speaker 3: urge a little a little caution with thinking.

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Speaker 1: Of the site's going to be. If we had been

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Speaker 1: talking in at Christmas and I had told you that

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Speaker 1: Trump was going to have opened up a twenty five

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Speaker 1: or thirty point lead as we come up on in July,

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Speaker 1: that would have seemed highly unlikely sitting in Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Right, Does anyone even remember now that at one point

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Speaker 3: Ronda Santis was within single digits of Donald Trump in

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to play and Buck, I want

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Speaker 3: to take some of your calls here. Eight hundred two

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Speaker 3: eight two two eight a two. Now, what do you

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Speaker 3: think right now? If that if we're looking at the

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Speaker 3: matrix of American politics, what are you seeing here on

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Speaker 3: the screen, anything that you're agreeing with? We're seeing anything

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Speaker 3: that you think that we need to be focused in on.

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Speaker 3: More So, Clay ran these polls RFK Junior versus Romney,

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Speaker 3: and then it was also Mike Pence smoked them both.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let we blame blame you for that one.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, we have uh, we have mel in Kentucky has

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Speaker 3: some thoughts on Vivek.

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Speaker 1: What's up mel Hey?

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Speaker 5: I just think that they beg the bek is positive, young, smart.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: And I think that I was all on board with

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Speaker 5: DeSantis because I just can't. I will vote for Trump

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Speaker 5: if I have to. My husband will not, and I

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Speaker 5: won't be able to con get him to. But with.

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Speaker 1: Sorry to cut you off, but like, who would your

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Speaker 1: husband vote for instead?

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Speaker 5: Either DeSantis or Vyvak?

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Speaker 1: But what if Trump's the nominee is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: He wouldn't vote Probably interesting and he's not real political.

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Speaker 5: I might be able to convince him too. But what

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Speaker 5: I think they that people would equate DeSantis with Trump,

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Speaker 5: and they already go aftering for his legislation that he's passed.

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Speaker 5: They say, don't say gay that book banner that you know,

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Speaker 5: the guy who goes after Disney where vy that I

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Speaker 5: think he can win in the general independence because he

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Speaker 5: doesn't have the record to you know, and I think

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Speaker 5: that he's very charismatic.

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Speaker 3: Can I point out something mel is actually the VIK

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Speaker 3: is a is a non traditional, non establishment kind of candidate,

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Speaker 3: not a not a governor, not a you know, so correct,

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Speaker 3: you got and it's interesting to your point, Clay, thank

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Speaker 3: you for calling in mel a very astute. He's doing

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Speaker 3: very well because there's clearly a hunger right now for that.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of funny. We I think of the VEC

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Speaker 3: as more just because I've known him for years and

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Speaker 3: known him from Fox and you know, you know, we

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Speaker 3: go back a little bit. But yeah, he's a non

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Speaker 3: he's a non establishment candidate and he is already. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's been a win for him. He's got national recognition

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Speaker 3: and doing very well for himself. David in Superior, Wisconsin, David,

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Speaker 3: what do you have for us?

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Speaker 4: Thanks, guys. You know, in my humble opinion, I think

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Speaker 4: of vote for Trump in the primary is playing right

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Speaker 4: into the hands of the Democrats. And here's what I mean.

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Speaker 4: You know, when I think of Democrats, always try to

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Speaker 4: think what's the most diabolical, chaotic things they can do

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Speaker 4: to disrupt the elections. And it's not let prevent Trump

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Speaker 4: from getting the nominee and then prosecute him and put

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Speaker 4: him in prison. It's allow him to get the nomination

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Speaker 4: and then prosecute him and put him in prison.

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Speaker 5: So how does the.

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Speaker 4: Fifty percent of the GOP you said that are locked

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Speaker 4: into Trump? I mean, what percentage of these guys really

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Speaker 4: hate Trump and they just want to be saboteurs and

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Speaker 4: they want to ensure that he does get the nomination

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Speaker 4: because they know.

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Speaker 1: What It's interesting, It's just a call. I don't think Buck,

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Speaker 1: you may disagree. I don't think that there's going to

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Speaker 1: be in the Republican primary that many people voting just

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Speaker 1: to try to sabotage the overall Republican vote. Right. I

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Speaker 1: think fifty percent of the primary so far roughly is

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Speaker 1: committed to Trump. I think fifty percent are committed to

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Speaker 1: a variety of other candidates, but I don't buy into Oh,

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Speaker 1: Democrats are trying to implement in some way the outcome,

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Speaker 1: and I think most people don't